This is not that important but does anyone notice how these old videos that were recorded on tape have a warm, dynamic quality that the modern ones recorded digitally lack?
o.k. we know what the problem is...what is the solution.you can move to another country...or go for direct democracy.if tarp was put to a referendum what do you think the result would be?
I wish the Republicans would stop fighting the inevitable collapse of our currency. The sooner it happens the sooner we can get to the civil war that we need to purge ourselves of the cartel of ultra bankers, the Zionists and the Cultural Marxists.
If you don't know who or what those are at this point in history then you better get studying fast because there is going to be some very bloody testing.
Although I agree with him. Let's be careful and not think all conservatives are the same. We are still talking about politicians. Let's not make every American conservative an enemy by being snobby and thinking our ideas are above them. I'm just saying that those kind of thoughts often detract people from the libertarian position.
@groam6666 There's two types of "conservatives" to me.
The ones who I want as friends, the Paul Ryans of the world. I might not agree w/ every stance of theirs, but I feel like they would make good allies on the things I'm passionate for.
Then the ones who I'll pass on, like the McCains. These ones, neo-cons if you will, are the ones who will fight tooth and nail against welfare to the poor, but then think business welfare is fine. They hurt the free market as a faux-ally to it.
@wohs145 Liberty is popular with people that believe they are responsible for their own lives; people that think that their problems and challenges should be handled by government, and that there is something wrong with a system that "allows" people to be poor and everyone should have a job, health care, food, housing (whether they earn it or not) don't care much for freedom.
I think liberty is only popular by rhetoric, but it's also the case that different people have different views of what liberty is. Mostly though, I think most folks are easily scared into abandoning liberty...and my interpretation of that is that liberty really isn't that popular, unfortunately
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years."
@Panpiper Speaking of, I'm now reading a report by the CATO Institute about how excessive gov't killed the Roman Republic, and turned it into an empire.
@jrsub3 Excessive government didn't kill the Roman Republic, actually. Corruption did. By the time of Sulla and Caesar the Senate was already a whorehouse, as well as the lower government assemblies. St. Augustine had it pegged: It began when Rome destroyed Carthage. That removed an existential threat to the Republic forever. That led to the Roman citizen becoming soft, lazy, and feeling entitled, and the Senate and other personages merely fed into that. cont...
@TheWyldeGoose What are you talking about? Rome died but Carthage and the Hanovers? "All roads DO NOT lead to Rome", they actually lead to The House of Hanover & the Barbarian Kingdom of Carthage which the Queen of England (from the family of SAXE-COBURG-GOTHA (Ger. Sachsen-Koburg-Gotha) is still loyal to too this day. In Carthage, the Canaanites called themselves "Punics" and they were the very AskeNAZI (anti-Christ) bloodlines of the Khazar who still pretend to be Jewish to this day.
@TheWyldeGoose Ok tin-foil fez is off. Put your thinking cap on. Go look this up: Queen Elizabeth is Black Nobility from the House of Guelph. The House of Hanover is a younger branch of the House of Welf (Guelph), which in turn is the senior branch of the House of Este. Guelph means, "WOLF". And you won't hear Wolf Blitzer talking about that on the CNN (Communist News Network).
@rross27 But what does it matter? What does that matter to the overall history? You want to put the blame on a few, I want to put the blame on all, in that humanity can be corruptible in all kinds of ways. That's what Augustine documented, and demonstrated.
But perhaps it'll finally change. I think Bill Whittle is right. We're entering a new era of personal enfranchisement in a way never before seen in human history. I eagerly await what will come of it.,
@TheWyldeGoose Oh so if I read you right you don't believe in targeting/blaming/punishing the culprits or stopping them, you would rather all of us take the blame collectively and be punished for the crimes of a few? Sounds a lot like the store owner who would rather not buy a security camera and turn people in for theft, but he's just fine with raising prices for everyone else coming into his store to make up for the loss. That is, "deliberate ignorance leading to collective punishment".
@rross27 In one sense, yes. Because society tolerates whatever evil it likes, but evil is still evil. It really comes down to what you tolerate, what you decide is okay, what you decide is fair. If you don't say anything, even if everyone else is okay with it, you're tolerating it. Therefore, you allow the evil to happen. You have to be the light that shines upon the darkness, where evil likes to do its work. Be the light. The more light that shines, the better.
@TheWyldeGoose Yea, well how could I not agree with you on that one. 8) Well put...Burke's in his Thoughts on the Cause of Present Discontents (1770): "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". The world is in bad shape right now because we decided to reserve the right to remain ignorant and allow evil men to triumph over us. SAD!
@TheWyldeGoose Try to keep in mind that it is; Tolerance, Sensitivity, Political Correctness, and this sort of propaganda which led us to our demise in the first place. The people who invented these terms are in fact Communists/Socialists. Political Correctness was used in Russia by Stalin and the Bolshevik (Jewish) regime which murdered the Christian Tzar and took over their government, installing Communism for the first time in history. The exact tricks used then are used now. History repeats!
@rross27 Please, I implore you not to liken Bolshevism with Judaism, the two are totally polar opposites. The USSR oppressed Jews who wished to practice their faith relentlessly because they didnt fit into the communist mold. Some of the most prominent speakers for Libertarianism, Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman were both ethnically Jewish, and Peter Schiff is as well. He's obviously more minor. I hate nothing more than the fact that so many American Jews are leftists, it's sad.
@mites7 Rabbi Wiseman one of the most prominent American Jews in 1935: "Some call it communism, others Bolshevism; I call it Judaism". You print Jewish propaganda. You do know that 95% of the Bolshevik Party in Russia which murdered the Tsar Nicholas II, his family & ministers were Jews? They installed the worlds first Communist Government in 1918, & from that time on in Russia, "anti-Semitism" & "anti-Communism/Government" were both punished by death! Over 40 million people starved & murdered!!
@rross27 cont..Because we're all subject to what we do and what we do not do. Whether you believe that or not, the consequences of both action and inaction based on what we know in our hearts to be good and evil resonates throughout the world. Even Buddha said no man lives alone. What you might think is ordinary to you may be something new to the next generation of men and women. Stand for righteousness, even at the cost of your own pleasure, and you shall reap what you sow.
@TheWyldeGoose Buddha is often misunderstood as the name of an historical figure from India; but this is not the case. Buddha is a principle, not a person. Buddha actually means "awake." Buddha statues are symbolic presentations of qualities of "awakeness." So the concept isn't about closing your mind and remaining ignorant, it's based on awareness and different levels of it. Closing your eyes to things is the opposite of Buddhism and that seems to be the state you prefer. Ignorance isn't bliss.
@Huboons Well my personal belief is that religion although no doubt mostly; allegory, dreams, nightmares, and visions, makes some arguments concerning virtue and moral fortitude which are valid. Everything in nature is simple, yet confused. What simplified it? What confuses it? If one agrees that "order" is needed, do we choose leaders who confuse and hide things deliberately? Or ones who are interested in keeping things simple and open to the people? Now let's go try to read the Tax Code...8)
@rross27 Reality is objective and quantifiable. Religion and human emotion are not. Visions and dreams are the result of chemical brain processes used to transfer short term memory to long term memory. "Everything in nature is simple" - This statement is laughable. If you had even a basic understanding of biology you would never make this statement. There is no "we" there is only you, and I and others. YOU may choose leaders, I recognize no other individual as a leader.
@Huboons Funny you would say you recognize no other individual as a leader, when you just repeated nearly the exact words of Ayn Rand. We dont just drag our beliefs and thoughts out of thin air, we must have some knowledge to base them on. And knowledge normally starts with a teacher (leader). Biology is not natures way, it's mans way of determining processes within nature (therefore confused). And mathematics is not the launguage of nature, for the same reason. We still have much to learn.
@rross27 "We dont just drag our beliefs and thoughts out of thin air" Once again, there is no "we." My opinions are based on rational observation. Yours are based on what your "god" tells you to believe. Let me just save you the trouble of threatening me with hell or physical violence (where your kind always winds up) and end the conversation now. I hope you like government control of your life because you are one of the main reasons it is so popular and will remain so.
@Huboons Bet you money that the second you break a bone or are diagnosed with a terrible disease, there will suddenly be a, "we", not just a "you". And you will be begging that "we" to save you. Ayn Rand NEVER said, there is no place for emotion. She teaches where it does not belong. Also you assume too much, I never have said I have a religion of any kind. Just the opposite, I described it as "visions" and so forth, and then went on typing about "nature". "My kind"?! Why don't you elaborate?
But there has to be leaders, to lead companies for example, however the power of those leaders has to be limited so that they cannot force anything on you
@jrsub3 cont...In St. Augustine's City of God, he describes how Roman refugees, fleeing the barbarians sacking Rome some 500 years later, when they would come to the new Carthage, would not immediately look for work or do something productive, but attend the games. Why? Because, in Rome, that's where they would be entertained and get food. Often for free. These people had no character, no sense of civic duty to self or country.
Excessive government begins with individual corruption.
@jrsub3 cont...We, as Westerners, take our citizenship for granted. We're so molly-coddled with the fruits of our success that we don't feel any need to take responsibility for our lives, or our nation. Someone else will do it, and they'll do it gladly. It's even worse when you tack on all the nanny-state regulations that seek to control our very lives. It's why people just stood around in Hartford, CT not long ago as an old man was hit-and-ran by a car. Someone else will tend to it.
@TheWyldeGoose This last point is crucial to understand - if you want small government, as I'm sure most of us do, then it begins with us. We have to assume more responsibility, and in this day and age we must be ready to suffer the consequences when we step up and take responsibility for our communities and our nation. Do so gladly, because government will not let go easily. They want you scared of lawsuits and potential fines for helping others when you're "unqualified" to render aid.
@TheWyldeGoose I contend that big government is a symptom of Corruption.
John Adams said that our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people, and wholly inadequate to the governance of any other. Moral and religious people govern themselves quite well in a civil society. Licentious entitled children require a nanny state to protect and provide for them.
@TheWyldeGoose I feel we simply have different ways of describing the same problem, though. Whether we think corruption and entitlement is a symptom of welfare states like I do, or welfare states are a symptom of corruption and entitlement like you do, the point still stands that it can bring even the strongest of powers to their knees.
We do have to accept more responsibility in our lives. The world would be better if people did.
@jrsub3 My point is that it begins ultimately to the individual citizen, and if we take our duties to both ourselves and our country seriously, that we place certain trusts to government and the rest into our hands, then government will be reduced. I think that this can be achieved from either the top-down, or the bottom-top approach, but the latter will last the longest.
Freedom is hard. Sometimes, freedom sucks. It takes a strong man to be self-reliant. At the same time, though, there is no magic formula to being so: get up, go to work (or run your own business), come home, don't behave like a degenerate.
The fact that we let weak people decide the path of our nation opened the door for all this corruption.
@cristoballs not sure who said that, but I believe it was Plato, or at least I know it was said about roman government. That goes like, "once the people realize they can vote themselves money from the coffers, that is the end of democracy", and there are variations to it too. "once politicians realize they can vote themselves a pay raise, democracy is over"
This is not that important but does anyone notice how these old videos that were recorded on tape have a warm, dynamic quality that the modern ones recorded digitally lack?
dubified89 1 week ago
o.k. we know what the problem is...what is the solution.you can move to another country...or go for direct democracy.if tarp was put to a referendum what do you think the result would be?
nphanlon1973 3 months ago
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petereberle 3 months ago
Mindblowingly uncanny how relevant this lecture/speech is to modern day society / economy...
jccusell 8 months ago
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adulby 8 months ago
@adulby not so much of a coincidence, actually. ;)
Cornampoo 5 months ago
Every election is an advanced auction on stolen property.... wow...
mixmastermeeks 10 months ago
Every election is an advanced auction on stolen property....
mixmastermeeks 10 months ago
How great that some Senators HAVE now been elected on the promise to NOT bring back money for their state.
peteremcc 10 months ago
i would love to know where you get this clips!!! :DD
playlacrosse24 10 months ago
"Wea are over-taxed and over-regulated, the Founding Fathers would be ashamed of us for what we're putting up with"
- Ron Paul
midwestcharm 10 months ago 6
Wise words.
SmokeRingsPipeDreams 10 months ago
Love the W.E.W.!
furyofbongos 10 months ago
I wish the Republicans would stop fighting the inevitable collapse of our currency. The sooner it happens the sooner we can get to the civil war that we need to purge ourselves of the cartel of ultra bankers, the Zionists and the Cultural Marxists.
If you don't know who or what those are at this point in history then you better get studying fast because there is going to be some very bloody testing.
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kmg501 10 months ago
A prophecy.
gdmk1000 10 months ago
Although I agree with him. Let's be careful and not think all conservatives are the same. We are still talking about politicians. Let's not make every American conservative an enemy by being snobby and thinking our ideas are above them. I'm just saying that those kind of thoughts often detract people from the libertarian position.
groam6666 11 months ago
@groam6666 There's two types of "conservatives" to me.
The ones who I want as friends, the Paul Ryans of the world. I might not agree w/ every stance of theirs, but I feel like they would make good allies on the things I'm passionate for.
Then the ones who I'll pass on, like the McCains. These ones, neo-cons if you will, are the ones who will fight tooth and nail against welfare to the poor, but then think business welfare is fine. They hurt the free market as a faux-ally to it.
jrsub3 11 months ago 2
Its not a "token black guy." Ever heard of Thomas Sowell? Liberty is popular with all people - regardless of race or ethnicity.
wohs145 11 months ago 49
@wohs145 Isn't Walter Williams the Head of the Economics Department at American University?
johnwiseman17 10 months ago
@johnwiseman17 Pretty sure he teaches at George Mason.
wohs145 10 months ago
@wohs145 Liberty is popular with people that believe they are responsible for their own lives; people that think that their problems and challenges should be handled by government, and that there is something wrong with a system that "allows" people to be poor and everyone should have a job, health care, food, housing (whether they earn it or not) don't care much for freedom.
ProudConservative2 10 months ago
@wohs145 regardless of race or ethnicity... ;)
ProudConservative2 10 months ago
@wohs145
I think liberty is only popular by rhetoric, but it's also the case that different people have different views of what liberty is. Mostly though, I think most folks are easily scared into abandoning liberty...and my interpretation of that is that liberty really isn't that popular, unfortunately
stealthswimmer 3 months ago
Walter Williams is a gem, without a token black guy the liberty movement would look suspicious, luckily for us we also got a genius.
Hashishin13 11 months ago 4
Church!
sonnybrown 11 months ago
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years."
— Alexis de Tocqueville
Panpiper 11 months ago 2
@Panpiper
The only ray of hope we have is that people will also vote for the politician who promises lower taxes.
EGarrett01 11 months ago
@Panpiper Speaking of, I'm now reading a report by the CATO Institute about how excessive gov't killed the Roman Republic, and turned it into an empire.
jrsub3 11 months ago
@jrsub3 And then even more government ultimately destroyed that empire.
Panpiper 11 months ago
@jrsub3 Excessive government didn't kill the Roman Republic, actually. Corruption did. By the time of Sulla and Caesar the Senate was already a whorehouse, as well as the lower government assemblies. St. Augustine had it pegged: It began when Rome destroyed Carthage. That removed an existential threat to the Republic forever. That led to the Roman citizen becoming soft, lazy, and feeling entitled, and the Senate and other personages merely fed into that. cont...
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose What are you talking about? Rome died but Carthage and the Hanovers? "All roads DO NOT lead to Rome", they actually lead to The House of Hanover & the Barbarian Kingdom of Carthage which the Queen of England (from the family of SAXE-COBURG-GOTHA (Ger. Sachsen-Koburg-Gotha) is still loyal to too this day. In Carthage, the Canaanites called themselves "Punics" and they were the very AskeNAZI (anti-Christ) bloodlines of the Khazar who still pretend to be Jewish to this day.
rross27 10 months ago
@rross27 Take the tin-foil hat off of your head.
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose Ok tin-foil fez is off. Put your thinking cap on. Go look this up: Queen Elizabeth is Black Nobility from the House of Guelph. The House of Hanover is a younger branch of the House of Welf (Guelph), which in turn is the senior branch of the House of Este. Guelph means, "WOLF". And you won't hear Wolf Blitzer talking about that on the CNN (Communist News Network).
rross27 10 months ago
@rross27 But what does it matter? What does that matter to the overall history? You want to put the blame on a few, I want to put the blame on all, in that humanity can be corruptible in all kinds of ways. That's what Augustine documented, and demonstrated.
But perhaps it'll finally change. I think Bill Whittle is right. We're entering a new era of personal enfranchisement in a way never before seen in human history. I eagerly await what will come of it.,
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose Oh so if I read you right you don't believe in targeting/blaming/punishing the culprits or stopping them, you would rather all of us take the blame collectively and be punished for the crimes of a few? Sounds a lot like the store owner who would rather not buy a security camera and turn people in for theft, but he's just fine with raising prices for everyone else coming into his store to make up for the loss. That is, "deliberate ignorance leading to collective punishment".
rross27 10 months ago
@rross27 In one sense, yes. Because society tolerates whatever evil it likes, but evil is still evil. It really comes down to what you tolerate, what you decide is okay, what you decide is fair. If you don't say anything, even if everyone else is okay with it, you're tolerating it. Therefore, you allow the evil to happen. You have to be the light that shines upon the darkness, where evil likes to do its work. Be the light. The more light that shines, the better.
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose Yea, well how could I not agree with you on that one. 8) Well put...Burke's in his Thoughts on the Cause of Present Discontents (1770): "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". The world is in bad shape right now because we decided to reserve the right to remain ignorant and allow evil men to triumph over us. SAD!
rross27 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose Try to keep in mind that it is; Tolerance, Sensitivity, Political Correctness, and this sort of propaganda which led us to our demise in the first place. The people who invented these terms are in fact Communists/Socialists. Political Correctness was used in Russia by Stalin and the Bolshevik (Jewish) regime which murdered the Christian Tzar and took over their government, installing Communism for the first time in history. The exact tricks used then are used now. History repeats!
rross27 10 months ago 2
@rross27 Please, I implore you not to liken Bolshevism with Judaism, the two are totally polar opposites. The USSR oppressed Jews who wished to practice their faith relentlessly because they didnt fit into the communist mold. Some of the most prominent speakers for Libertarianism, Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman were both ethnically Jewish, and Peter Schiff is as well. He's obviously more minor. I hate nothing more than the fact that so many American Jews are leftists, it's sad.
mites7 1 month ago
@mites7 Rabbi Wiseman one of the most prominent American Jews in 1935: "Some call it communism, others Bolshevism; I call it Judaism". You print Jewish propaganda. You do know that 95% of the Bolshevik Party in Russia which murdered the Tsar Nicholas II, his family & ministers were Jews? They installed the worlds first Communist Government in 1918, & from that time on in Russia, "anti-Semitism" & "anti-Communism/Government" were both punished by death! Over 40 million people starved & murdered!!
rross27 1 month ago
@rross27 cont..Because we're all subject to what we do and what we do not do. Whether you believe that or not, the consequences of both action and inaction based on what we know in our hearts to be good and evil resonates throughout the world. Even Buddha said no man lives alone. What you might think is ordinary to you may be something new to the next generation of men and women. Stand for righteousness, even at the cost of your own pleasure, and you shall reap what you sow.
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose Buddha is often misunderstood as the name of an historical figure from India; but this is not the case. Buddha is a principle, not a person. Buddha actually means "awake." Buddha statues are symbolic presentations of qualities of "awakeness." So the concept isn't about closing your mind and remaining ignorant, it's based on awareness and different levels of it. Closing your eyes to things is the opposite of Buddhism and that seems to be the state you prefer. Ignorance isn't bliss.
rross27 10 months ago
@rross27
Actually its about the same thing all religion is about, fantasy.
Huboons 10 months ago
@Huboons Well my personal belief is that religion although no doubt mostly; allegory, dreams, nightmares, and visions, makes some arguments concerning virtue and moral fortitude which are valid. Everything in nature is simple, yet confused. What simplified it? What confuses it? If one agrees that "order" is needed, do we choose leaders who confuse and hide things deliberately? Or ones who are interested in keeping things simple and open to the people? Now let's go try to read the Tax Code...8)
rross27 10 months ago
@rross27 Reality is objective and quantifiable. Religion and human emotion are not. Visions and dreams are the result of chemical brain processes used to transfer short term memory to long term memory. "Everything in nature is simple" - This statement is laughable. If you had even a basic understanding of biology you would never make this statement. There is no "we" there is only you, and I and others. YOU may choose leaders, I recognize no other individual as a leader.
Huboons 10 months ago
@Huboons Funny you would say you recognize no other individual as a leader, when you just repeated nearly the exact words of Ayn Rand. We dont just drag our beliefs and thoughts out of thin air, we must have some knowledge to base them on. And knowledge normally starts with a teacher (leader). Biology is not natures way, it's mans way of determining processes within nature (therefore confused). And mathematics is not the launguage of nature, for the same reason. We still have much to learn.
rross27 10 months ago
@rross27 "We dont just drag our beliefs and thoughts out of thin air" Once again, there is no "we." My opinions are based on rational observation. Yours are based on what your "god" tells you to believe. Let me just save you the trouble of threatening me with hell or physical violence (where your kind always winds up) and end the conversation now. I hope you like government control of your life because you are one of the main reasons it is so popular and will remain so.
Huboons 10 months ago
@Huboons Bet you money that the second you break a bone or are diagnosed with a terrible disease, there will suddenly be a, "we", not just a "you". And you will be begging that "we" to save you. Ayn Rand NEVER said, there is no place for emotion. She teaches where it does not belong. Also you assume too much, I never have said I have a religion of any kind. Just the opposite, I described it as "visions" and so forth, and then went on typing about "nature". "My kind"?! Why don't you elaborate?
rross27 10 months ago
@Huboons
But there has to be leaders, to lead companies for example, however the power of those leaders has to be limited so that they cannot force anything on you
unfad1ng 10 months ago
@jrsub3 cont...In St. Augustine's City of God, he describes how Roman refugees, fleeing the barbarians sacking Rome some 500 years later, when they would come to the new Carthage, would not immediately look for work or do something productive, but attend the games. Why? Because, in Rome, that's where they would be entertained and get food. Often for free. These people had no character, no sense of civic duty to self or country.
Excessive government begins with individual corruption.
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
@jrsub3 cont...We, as Westerners, take our citizenship for granted. We're so molly-coddled with the fruits of our success that we don't feel any need to take responsibility for our lives, or our nation. Someone else will do it, and they'll do it gladly. It's even worse when you tack on all the nanny-state regulations that seek to control our very lives. It's why people just stood around in Hartford, CT not long ago as an old man was hit-and-ran by a car. Someone else will tend to it.
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose This last point is crucial to understand - if you want small government, as I'm sure most of us do, then it begins with us. We have to assume more responsibility, and in this day and age we must be ready to suffer the consequences when we step up and take responsibility for our communities and our nation. Do so gladly, because government will not let go easily. They want you scared of lawsuits and potential fines for helping others when you're "unqualified" to render aid.
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose I contend that big government is a symptom of Corruption.
John Adams said that our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people, and wholly inadequate to the governance of any other. Moral and religious people govern themselves quite well in a civil society. Licentious entitled children require a nanny state to protect and provide for them.
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago 2
@TheWyldeGoose I feel we simply have different ways of describing the same problem, though. Whether we think corruption and entitlement is a symptom of welfare states like I do, or welfare states are a symptom of corruption and entitlement like you do, the point still stands that it can bring even the strongest of powers to their knees.
We do have to accept more responsibility in our lives. The world would be better if people did.
jrsub3 10 months ago
@jrsub3 My point is that it begins ultimately to the individual citizen, and if we take our duties to both ourselves and our country seriously, that we place certain trusts to government and the rest into our hands, then government will be reduced. I think that this can be achieved from either the top-down, or the bottom-top approach, but the latter will last the longest.
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose You're right.
Freedom is hard. Sometimes, freedom sucks. It takes a strong man to be self-reliant. At the same time, though, there is no magic formula to being so: get up, go to work (or run your own business), come home, don't behave like a degenerate.
The fact that we let weak people decide the path of our nation opened the door for all this corruption.
jrsub3 10 months ago
@jrsub3 What is true free-dom? I’m not sure either!
DOM Origin:
Middle English; Old English -dōm; cognate with Old Norse -dōmr, German -tum; See Doom
Doom- a judgment, decision, or sentence, especially an unfavorable one: The judge pronounced the defendant's doom.
dom-inate — vb 1. to control, rule, or govern (someone or something).
*The oldest definition of a "free man" is a man who owns his own labor & property. But thanks to the IRS and the Fed we don’t. Lookup, "Serfs".
rross27 10 months ago
@rross27 Preaching Hayek to the choir boy, man.
jrsub3 10 months ago
@jrsub3 LOL right on 8)
rross27 10 months ago
"when people find that they can vote themselves money, that will be the end of the republic."
so true... so very, very true.
cristoballs 11 months ago 50
@cristoballs great line. thanks for that. It's what has happened.
biozamadotcom 11 months ago
@cristoballs not sure who said that, but I believe it was Plato, or at least I know it was said about roman government. That goes like, "once the people realize they can vote themselves money from the coffers, that is the end of democracy", and there are variations to it too. "once politicians realize they can vote themselves a pay raise, democracy is over"
bluefootedpig 11 months ago
@cristoballs s/be/herald/
momerath42 11 months ago
@momerath42 ah yes... that's what happens when i write something down from memory, without checking. thanks:-)
cristoballs 11 months ago
@cristoballs No it's not unless you're talkign about funding wars for money.
HoGraz 4 months ago