Hey caliguselongatus: In BC, the trigger is 3 motile/farmed fish and applies during out-migration period (March-June). Nobody waits for trigger, and the levels are usually less than one during the spring. Most of the farms out here post that information in real time on their website. I'd give you the link, but you can't give links on UTube.
schmarly2007: what is the louse count (gravid females, males, pre adults or combination of) that trigger a SLICE treatment on a farm out there. I don't imagin it's cheap!
@caliguselongatus The Pacific Salmon Forum PSF - a non-biased scientific body ordered to look into the sea lice issue found that the studies Morton was citing (her own), were incorrect. Co-author Marty Krkosek agreed. Morton and Krkosek were asked to “recalibrate”. She concluded that “the survival of the pink salmon cohort was not statistically different from a reference region without salmon farms.” That’s right – no extinction. Not even a difference.
Hi caliguselongatus: I'll tell you exactly why; because someone took a picture of a little fish with a sea louse on it at about that time & everyone got all freaked out & fish farmers were made to take the "precautionary approach" by treating every farm, instead of only those farms that really needed it. In the end, it adds up to about 5.5 kg increase over 80,000 tonnes of fish - if you 'double' nearly nothing, you still get nearly nothing. And now we know it wasn't worth getting excited about.
You're right, 0.14gm/ton is a very small number and it's quite common for BC farmed salmon to never require any medication at all. This is because of a couple of things;
- each fish is vaccinated to create a strong immune system
- fish are raised in very low densities and rarley touched, which means little stress
Do me a favour, say "hi" to Rita McNeill for me.....love that girl!
schmarly2007 that's a really interesting SLICE number 0.14gm/ton! .14 sounds like so little but like a PSA count it is not the #. What's telling is change over time. In 2003 BC reported .007gm/ton used. Today the use is 2X what was used 8 years ago. Why, what is changing? In Atlantic we started at .005 and now use .15gr/ton. We now feed SLICE to the lice and they eat it like candy. Each generation of lice is more resistant than the last. Hope you don't end up in the same mess we are in!
OMG I am so ROTFLing right now! But seriously though, this was probably the funniest commercial in the history and future of the planet. Someday people will look back at this commercial and think to themselves "Ha! Uproarious! How amazing that such a short bit of comedy in commercial form could be the current essential building block of our society, in this the year 2751." And.....Just walk away. Well played sirs. Well Played.
scamarly2007: I don't belong to any of your organized NIMBY's. I'am an inshore lobster man of 48 years. Every year catches get smaller & now coming up dead: cypermethrin poisoned. We raised the red flag at DFO nothing. Not only me but the herring fishers, clamers & kids looking for wrinkles & muscles for an evening bond fire. Aquaculture is dumping poison in our bays & if it doesn't stop there will be nothing left! We will all be sucked into the hole with them! BC is next if not already!
@caliguselongatus Ahh, you're from the East Coast. This is the West Coast. Maybe you didn't know but BC salmon farms don't use cypermethrin. The only treatment used to treat for sea lice is SLICE, which is used in very, very low amounts (0.14 grams per metric ton of fish produced in 2009). See page 56 of the BC Fish Health Final Report 2009.
@sahmarly2007 Right! Farming CARNIVORES IS REVERSE PROTINE GENERATION land or open net pen. We take resources from less developed countries to produce a product for developed ones! You play BCSalmonFarmers game!! Play up the ++++ & forget the ----! Want to discuss open net pens versus closed containment : ENVIRONMENTALLY? Closed containment has YOU PAY ALL YOUR OPERATION COST! Problems of disease, water, waste & destruction of public resources DO NOT get dumped in your neighbours lap!
@caliguselongatus Quit YELLING man! or get some help for that anger. I'm not playing a game at all, I just happen to know about protein production and animal welfare - both of which BC salmon farmers are pretty damn good at.
Keep it comin', cause every single stupid comment from you is another opportunity for me.
@schmarly2007 We are very happy that you support farmed salmon. In the future however, would it be possible for you to curtail any personalized comments? We are trying very hard to create a space for open dialogue regarding farmed salmon and have found that inflammatory statements, positive or negative, tend to detract from the discussion. Thank you for helping create a better conversation!
@caliguselongatus Ahhh, I just noticed something. You have no videos and you joined 5 days ago just to comment on this video. You have not posted any other comments anywhere else on YouTube.
I'm sure BCSalmonFacts is honored.
It's nice to have a venue to post your feelings isn't it? Why don't you go back to your anti-everything friends and NIMBY's and tell them to provide an option for opinion on their website, so I can freely post my feelings and make you accountable for your rubbish.
@schmarly2007 We are very happy that you support farmed salmon. In the future however, would it be possible for you to curtail any personalized comments? We are trying very hard to create a space for open dialogue regarding farmed salmon and have found that inflammatory statements, positive or negative, tend to detract from the discussion. Thank you for helping create a better conversation!
BCSalmonFacts: that is right you are in BC!! STOP playing words! Stick to the FACTS about YOUR industry world wide!! OH by the way BCSalmonFacts, have you ever heard of MARINE HARVEST? In the past they reported losses in the Hundreds of Millions due to LOSSES in CHILE. Do you think they will CUT CORNERS in other places to FIX THE BOTTOM LINE?
BCSalmonFacts: What a miserable existence for penned salmon. These nomadic carnivores naturally travel thousands of kilometers in a life time. Aquaculture salmon swim in a circle24 x 7 trapped in a 30 x 30 meter pen exposed pathogens & being eaten alive by sea lice they can't escape. I went to BC MAL for pen sizes & stocking densities.Your numbers are way OFF!! By volume of water: 1 BATHTUB FULL/ FISH! Happy in the pen? WHY DO THEY RUN when the net brakes? INSTINCT IS STILL THERE!
@caliguselongatus So I guess you're not a fan of "closed containment" farming. If very large, naturally located ocean based pens aren't good enough for you, then I would think tanks with no windows on land would make you physically ill.
15 kg per m3 maximum density for ocean based pens (10% fish and 90% water)
80 kg per m3 for land tanks (90% fish and 10% water)
Thanks for helping me communicate how good ocean based farming is for my fish.
BCSalmonFacts: what are the dimensions of the "BC" pen configurations & what are the stocking density you abide by? You are being driven by the same market forces as the east coast industry. I find it hard to believe that your pen configurations are any differant.
BCSalmoFacts "Aquaculture industry is rebuilding" Just where are they doing this? In area X which hosted the ISA disaster? No they are moving into the previously DISEASE FREE areas of XI & XII further south. ISA has already jumped from area X to XI! Area XII is home to the Torres del Paine National Park . It's land is protected but it's coast IS NOT. This is Socializing your COST and privatizing your PROFITS. Aquaculture should be made pay the total cost of their business
lynnescape: YOUR QUOTE "did you know BC salmon farmers are world experts in land based aquaculture" What does that have to do with the mess in the open net pens. Fingerlings & par/smolt on land are not a problem unless they escape. It is the OPEN NET PENS that are destroying your environment! With 15000/18000 grilse/salmon pen, those fish have the equivalent of 1 bath tub of water to call home. That's not stressful is it?
@caliguselongatus Our large pens provide the fish with lots of room to move around. In fact, the fish only take up about 3 per cent of the pen volume - the other 97 per cent is all water! There are maximum stocking densities that all salmon farmers adhere to in order to ensure the fish are happy, and the fish are regularly tested to prove that they are healthy. The underwater shots in our other videos are a good example of the space our fish have and the water quality in which they swim.
Love the way people present the facts! SLICE, AKA, Emamectin Benzoate is used EXTERNALLY on farm animals. I grew up on a farm and I don't ever recall feeding a pesticide to our animals! SLICE is an IN FEED treatment for sea lice. It is digested & excreted through the flesh and skin where it acts as a neural toxin to kill the lice. Multiple treatments are given where the infestation is severe.
According to DFO, AK Dept of Fish and Game, and researchers at the University of Victoria, "When Atlantic salmon escape, they compete with native Pacific salmon for food and space and spread disease.As these Atlantic salmon colonize these rivers, they are taking up space. It's an ecological ratchet. Every time a square metre is turned over to the Atlantic salmon, that square metre is not available to the Pacific steelhead. Atlantic Salmon are considered to be an invasive threat in Alaska.
@norwaynever A few Atlantic salmon were found in Alaska waters in the 1990's, but none have ever colonized any rivers in Alaska. You do know they could swim around (the Continents) if they really wanted to, right?
And for you to claim that they may compete with wild stocks for "food and space" conveniently ignores the FACT that BILLIONS of hatchery salmon destined for human consumption are purposely released each year in North America...to compete with other wild fish for food and space.
Hi Everyone, this is a quick reminder that you cannot post links to externals websites in YouTube's comment sections. If you would like to refer to external sources please create a forum topic on our website bcsalmonfacts.ca to continue the discussion.
The 'activists' are totally engaged. They just don't have 1.5 million to spend on misleading TV spots. Alaska will not allow salmon farms. Why? Because they will destroy wild stocks. Escaped Atlantic salmon are already being found in Alaska streams, competing with wild stocks. These commercials are being paid for by the Norwegian companies who fear that we will discover the environmental truth of farmed salmon will be revealed. Disease has shut down Chile, disease has hit Norway's farmed salmon.
@norwaynever Hopefully environmental truth is based on factual information, and that’s why this site is dedicated to the facts. It is true that Chile’s salmon aquaculture industry is rebuilding after a major disease challenge, but it is not true that it is shut down. Similarly, Norway has weathered disease challenges, as have all other salmon farming areas, but they have learned from these experiences, developed new vaccines and remain viable coastal business.
@norwaynever Although small numbers of Atlantics may have been found in Alaskan streams back in the late 1990s, they did not colonize, and it's misleading to claim they are competing with wild stocks. Please visit bcsalmonfacts.ca for more information.
@UmbrellaPowerplay Commercial interests--$1.5 million in Norwegian corporate marketing (and maybe some of the Canadian public's taxes to 'sell' Canadians on a concept that is legislatively illegal, and environmentally devastating to Canada's coastal ecology.
@norwaynever This information campaign is paid for by the companies listed on our website and does not include any public money. To learn more about the regulations and environmental management at BC salmon farms, please visit our website at BCSalmonFacts.ca
Brilliant commercial. Judging by the high travel to your You Tube site and farmed salmon facts website, this commercial did exactly what you'd intended. Well done!
Fact: BC salmon farms have been undeniably linked to the RAMPANT spread of sea lice to our native pacific salmon. Check out research by John Volpe at the University of Victoria, and many others. Fact: I have a friend who has been a fishing guide in Haida Gwai for 5 years and every year they see higher numbers of salmon COVERED IN SEALICE. Returning this year he told me that NOT ONE SALMON of the hundreds he caught during the months he was up there was free of lice.
@MsCanadianpatriot That is VERY interesting! Especially considering that not ONE of the sea lice covered wild salmon your friend caught in Haida Gwaii (northern BC) has EVER passed a fish farm!! ALL salmon farms are SOUTH of Haida Gwaii and wild salmon don't swim south - they only swim NORTH to feed.
So...FACT...you've just proved that sea lice ARE a NATURAL part of the ocean and very common on all wild salmon.
It's about time fish farmers stuck up for themselves. WAY TO GO!!! I love the fact you are posting and responding to all questions - the "activists" don't engage, so it's good you guys are leading the way.
@crampedu2 Thanks for the feedback! We don't have any more commercials planned at this time, but have been extremely happy with the feedback thus far, so we wouldn't rule it out. We will upload some new YouTube fact videos soon though so stay tuned!
Have you done research on the effects of sonic devices (used to scare away predators like seals and sea lions who often get caught up in nets around the farms) on dolphins, porpoises and whales?
Where does the feed come from and why is so heavily pumped with antibiotics?
What is the percentage of farmed salmon that have lice vs wild salmon, has it been disproven that the lice is sourced from these massive containers of Atlantic salmon?
@jmtoriel No farms in BC use acoustic devices to scare away predators. The practice was used in the past, but as we are committed to innovation and sustainable practices, our techniques have evolved.
The feed is manufactured in Surrey and Vancouver, and does not contain antibiotics unless a special order is placed with a prescription from a professional veterinarian, and antibiotic use in salmon farms is very low. Usage amounts are detailed on bcsalmonfacts.ca
@jmtoriel Sea lice are present in the natural environment and have always been in the ocean. Studies have shown that sea lice levels can vary wildly, even in places where there are no salmon farms. In addition, recent studies have shown that even in the instances where salmon farms increase lice levels in the ocean, there is no evidence they contribute to wild salmon mortality.
Missfitnikki If it wasn't safe it wouldn't be permitted to grow it. BC farmed salmon is delicious and good for you. Farmed salmon is like any other farmed food. If antibiotics or slice are used there is a mandatory withdrawal period that is required by law before the fish can be harvested. it is perfectly safe.
Farmed salmon is not creating new biomass from the sea, but rather stealing other fish from the ocean to create fish pellets to feed salmon. NOT sustainable!
@norwaynever The fish used to make fishmeal and fish oil are not used for human consumption because they are very small and very bony. Fishmeal is also used to feed chickens, pigs, and pets. There is little or no market for them to be sold for human consumption.
@norwaynever At a 1.2kg to 1kg feed conversation ratio, we have already come a long way towards our goal of producing more fish than we consume, and we are committed to continue to improve. To learn more about the efficiency of feed conversion in farmed salmon, please visit our website bcsalmonfacts.ca
I do not eat farmed salmon, and I would rather starve than eat it. Your farmed salmon are killing our native salmon stocks, poisoning salmon migration routes, and starving our sea mammals, as well as depriving eagles, seagulls, bears, wolves and rain forests of vital nutrition. Put your salmon farms on land, or get out of our country. You already devastated the salmon stocks in Norway and native fisheries in Chile. You are not welcome in British Columbia.
@lynnescape Salmon farms and wild salmon can, and do, co-exist peacefully in BC. Some of the biggest pink and sockeye salmon runs of the past century (2009 and 2010 respectively), occurred in regions where salmon farms are located. Salmon farmers follow strict regulations and even go beyond government requirements to make sure their practices are not harming wild stocks.
@lynnescape Did you know that BC salmon farmers are world experts on land-based farming, and currently use these systems to raise their salmon?
For the first year of a farmed salmon’s life, they are grown in land based freshwater hatcheries. After a year (at about 15 cm in length), they are moved to ocean-based farms to continue growing. Ocean-based farms provide a natural place for the fish to be raised in with lots of space to swim.
@lynnescape Salmon farmers are interested in further testing land-based farms to see if it’s viable (environmentally and financially) to grow Atlantic salmon from egg to harvest size (about 5 kgs), but to date, no commercial sized business has proved to be a sustainable option.
For more specific information we would suggest you visit our website, bcsalmonfacts.ca
What a genius ad campaign, it works both ways (so thanks for attracting more eyes on your destructive industry).
yes, I have informed myself about salmon farming, and my position is that you should get out of my province, if you aren't allowed to farm in your own country (Norway) then why elsewhere?
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SLICE is a treatment included in the feed, and is also approved for use in Canada by the CFIA and approved for import by the FDA. SLICE is only used sparingly (average 0.0002 kgs/1000 kgs of fish), and will only be prescribed under the guidance of a veterinarian. Salmon can only be harvested after a mandatory waiting period is over. Salmon (farmed and wild) is a very safe and healthy protein, and is recommended by The American Heart Association and Agri-Food Canada.
Astaxanthin and canthaxanthin are important carotenoids eaten by wild and farmed salmon, and are very important for a fish’s health. Both are approved for use in fish feed by CFIA and FDA.
"we don't dye farmed salmon the colour comes from an important ingredient in their food" and those important ingredients would be astaxanthin and canthaxanthin, two colour pigmentation agents that are not approved by the FDA along with the SLICE you add to the food when sea lice populations get out of control. This is unsafe for the public to be consuming, time to tell the truth and get out of the ocean.
Classic!
nivekdeyrf 1 year ago
This ad should get an award. It's so funny!
girldare 1 year ago
Hey caliguselongatus: In BC, the trigger is 3 motile/farmed fish and applies during out-migration period (March-June). Nobody waits for trigger, and the levels are usually less than one during the spring. Most of the farms out here post that information in real time on their website. I'd give you the link, but you can't give links on UTube.
schmarly2007 1 year ago
schmarly2007: what is the louse count (gravid females, males, pre adults or combination of) that trigger a SLICE treatment on a farm out there. I don't imagin it's cheap!
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
@caliguselongatus The Pacific Salmon Forum PSF - a non-biased scientific body ordered to look into the sea lice issue found that the studies Morton was citing (her own), were incorrect. Co-author Marty Krkosek agreed. Morton and Krkosek were asked to “recalibrate”. She concluded that “the survival of the pink salmon cohort was not statistically different from a reference region without salmon farms.” That’s right – no extinction. Not even a difference.
Folkboat11 10 months ago
schmarly2007: Why is BC Fish Health now reporting that it takes 0.14 grams/ton of SLICE to accomplish what 0.07 grams/ton 8 years ago?
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
Hi caliguselongatus: I'll tell you exactly why; because someone took a picture of a little fish with a sea louse on it at about that time & everyone got all freaked out & fish farmers were made to take the "precautionary approach" by treating every farm, instead of only those farms that really needed it. In the end, it adds up to about 5.5 kg increase over 80,000 tonnes of fish - if you 'double' nearly nothing, you still get nearly nothing. And now we know it wasn't worth getting excited about.
schmarly2007 1 year ago
Hi caliguslongatus;
You're right, 0.14gm/ton is a very small number and it's quite common for BC farmed salmon to never require any medication at all. This is because of a couple of things;
- each fish is vaccinated to create a strong immune system
- fish are raised in very low densities and rarley touched, which means little stress
Do me a favour, say "hi" to Rita McNeill for me.....love that girl!
schmarly2007 1 year ago
schmarly2007 that's a really interesting SLICE number 0.14gm/ton! .14 sounds like so little but like a PSA count it is not the #. What's telling is change over time. In 2003 BC reported .007gm/ton used. Today the use is 2X what was used 8 years ago. Why, what is changing? In Atlantic we started at .005 and now use .15gr/ton. We now feed SLICE to the lice and they eat it like candy. Each generation of lice is more resistant than the last. Hope you don't end up in the same mess we are in!
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
OMG I am so ROTFLing right now! But seriously though, this was probably the funniest commercial in the history and future of the planet. Someday people will look back at this commercial and think to themselves "Ha! Uproarious! How amazing that such a short bit of comedy in commercial form could be the current essential building block of our society, in this the year 2751." And.....Just walk away. Well played sirs. Well Played.
jettero23 1 year ago
scamarly2007: I don't belong to any of your organized NIMBY's. I'am an inshore lobster man of 48 years. Every year catches get smaller & now coming up dead: cypermethrin poisoned. We raised the red flag at DFO nothing. Not only me but the herring fishers, clamers & kids looking for wrinkles & muscles for an evening bond fire. Aquaculture is dumping poison in our bays & if it doesn't stop there will be nothing left! We will all be sucked into the hole with them! BC is next if not already!
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
@caliguselongatus Ahh, you're from the East Coast. This is the West Coast. Maybe you didn't know but BC salmon farms don't use cypermethrin. The only treatment used to treat for sea lice is SLICE, which is used in very, very low amounts (0.14 grams per metric ton of fish produced in 2009). See page 56 of the BC Fish Health Final Report 2009.
schmarly2007 1 year ago
@sahmarly2007 Right! Farming CARNIVORES IS REVERSE PROTINE GENERATION land or open net pen. We take resources from less developed countries to produce a product for developed ones! You play BCSalmonFarmers game!! Play up the ++++ & forget the ----! Want to discuss open net pens versus closed containment : ENVIRONMENTALLY? Closed containment has YOU PAY ALL YOUR OPERATION COST! Problems of disease, water, waste & destruction of public resources DO NOT get dumped in your neighbours lap!
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
@caliguselongatus Quit YELLING man! or get some help for that anger. I'm not playing a game at all, I just happen to know about protein production and animal welfare - both of which BC salmon farmers are pretty damn good at.
Keep it comin', cause every single stupid comment from you is another opportunity for me.
schmarly2007 1 year ago
@schmarly2007 We are very happy that you support farmed salmon. In the future however, would it be possible for you to curtail any personalized comments? We are trying very hard to create a space for open dialogue regarding farmed salmon and have found that inflammatory statements, positive or negative, tend to detract from the discussion. Thank you for helping create a better conversation!
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
@caliguselongatus Ahhh, I just noticed something. You have no videos and you joined 5 days ago just to comment on this video. You have not posted any other comments anywhere else on YouTube.
I'm sure BCSalmonFacts is honored.
It's nice to have a venue to post your feelings isn't it? Why don't you go back to your anti-everything friends and NIMBY's and tell them to provide an option for opinion on their website, so I can freely post my feelings and make you accountable for your rubbish.
schmarly2007 1 year ago
@schmarly2007 We are very happy that you support farmed salmon. In the future however, would it be possible for you to curtail any personalized comments? We are trying very hard to create a space for open dialogue regarding farmed salmon and have found that inflammatory statements, positive or negative, tend to detract from the discussion. Thank you for helping create a better conversation!
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
BCSalmonFacts: that is right you are in BC!! STOP playing words! Stick to the FACTS about YOUR industry world wide!! OH by the way BCSalmonFacts, have you ever heard of MARINE HARVEST? In the past they reported losses in the Hundreds of Millions due to LOSSES in CHILE. Do you think they will CUT CORNERS in other places to FIX THE BOTTOM LINE?
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
BCSalmonFacts: What a miserable existence for penned salmon. These nomadic carnivores naturally travel thousands of kilometers in a life time. Aquaculture salmon swim in a circle24 x 7 trapped in a 30 x 30 meter pen exposed pathogens & being eaten alive by sea lice they can't escape. I went to BC MAL for pen sizes & stocking densities.Your numbers are way OFF!! By volume of water: 1 BATHTUB FULL/ FISH! Happy in the pen? WHY DO THEY RUN when the net brakes? INSTINCT IS STILL THERE!
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
@caliguselongatus So I guess you're not a fan of "closed containment" farming. If very large, naturally located ocean based pens aren't good enough for you, then I would think tanks with no windows on land would make you physically ill.
15 kg per m3 maximum density for ocean based pens (10% fish and 90% water)
80 kg per m3 for land tanks (90% fish and 10% water)
Thanks for helping me communicate how good ocean based farming is for my fish.
schmarly2007 1 year ago
BCSalmonFacts: what are the dimensions of the "BC" pen configurations & what are the stocking density you abide by? You are being driven by the same market forces as the east coast industry. I find it hard to believe that your pen configurations are any differant.
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
I would hate to be the poor guy that has to adminster the @BCSalmonFacts account. Full time job defending a questionable industry.
MustacheDoctor 1 year ago
BCSalmoFacts "Aquaculture industry is rebuilding" Just where are they doing this? In area X which hosted the ISA disaster? No they are moving into the previously DISEASE FREE areas of XI & XII further south. ISA has already jumped from area X to XI! Area XII is home to the Torres del Paine National Park . It's land is protected but it's coast IS NOT. This is Socializing your COST and privatizing your PROFITS. Aquaculture should be made pay the total cost of their business
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
Hi caliguselongatus, You are referring to Chile, South America. We are BCSalmonFacts and operate in British Columbia, Canada.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
lynnescape: YOUR QUOTE "did you know BC salmon farmers are world experts in land based aquaculture" What does that have to do with the mess in the open net pens. Fingerlings & par/smolt on land are not a problem unless they escape. It is the OPEN NET PENS that are destroying your environment! With 15000/18000 grilse/salmon pen, those fish have the equivalent of 1 bath tub of water to call home. That's not stressful is it?
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
@caliguselongatus Our large pens provide the fish with lots of room to move around. In fact, the fish only take up about 3 per cent of the pen volume - the other 97 per cent is all water! There are maximum stocking densities that all salmon farmers adhere to in order to ensure the fish are happy, and the fish are regularly tested to prove that they are healthy. The underwater shots in our other videos are a good example of the space our fish have and the water quality in which they swim.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
Love the way people present the facts! SLICE, AKA, Emamectin Benzoate is used EXTERNALLY on farm animals. I grew up on a farm and I don't ever recall feeding a pesticide to our animals! SLICE is an IN FEED treatment for sea lice. It is digested & excreted through the flesh and skin where it acts as a neural toxin to kill the lice. Multiple treatments are given where the infestation is severe.
caliguselongatus 1 year ago
According to DFO, AK Dept of Fish and Game, and researchers at the University of Victoria, "When Atlantic salmon escape, they compete with native Pacific salmon for food and space and spread disease.As these Atlantic salmon colonize these rivers, they are taking up space. It's an ecological ratchet. Every time a square metre is turned over to the Atlantic salmon, that square metre is not available to the Pacific steelhead. Atlantic Salmon are considered to be an invasive threat in Alaska.
norwaynever 1 year ago
@norwaynever A few Atlantic salmon were found in Alaska waters in the 1990's, but none have ever colonized any rivers in Alaska. You do know they could swim around (the Continents) if they really wanted to, right?
And for you to claim that they may compete with wild stocks for "food and space" conveniently ignores the FACT that BILLIONS of hatchery salmon destined for human consumption are purposely released each year in North America...to compete with other wild fish for food and space.
schmarly2007 1 year ago
Hi Everyone, this is a quick reminder that you cannot post links to externals websites in YouTube's comment sections. If you would like to refer to external sources please create a forum topic on our website bcsalmonfacts.ca to continue the discussion.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
The 'activists' are totally engaged. They just don't have 1.5 million to spend on misleading TV spots. Alaska will not allow salmon farms. Why? Because they will destroy wild stocks. Escaped Atlantic salmon are already being found in Alaska streams, competing with wild stocks. These commercials are being paid for by the Norwegian companies who fear that we will discover the environmental truth of farmed salmon will be revealed. Disease has shut down Chile, disease has hit Norway's farmed salmon.
norwaynever 1 year ago
@norwaynever Hopefully environmental truth is based on factual information, and that’s why this site is dedicated to the facts. It is true that Chile’s salmon aquaculture industry is rebuilding after a major disease challenge, but it is not true that it is shut down. Similarly, Norway has weathered disease challenges, as have all other salmon farming areas, but they have learned from these experiences, developed new vaccines and remain viable coastal business.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
@norwaynever Although small numbers of Atlantics may have been found in Alaskan streams back in the late 1990s, they did not colonize, and it's misleading to claim they are competing with wild stocks. Please visit bcsalmonfacts.ca for more information.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
These are incredibly well made commercials. You got good funding too, see these all over the TV.
UmbrellaPowerplay 1 year ago
@UmbrellaPowerplay Commercial interests--$1.5 million in Norwegian corporate marketing (and maybe some of the Canadian public's taxes to 'sell' Canadians on a concept that is legislatively illegal, and environmentally devastating to Canada's coastal ecology.
norwaynever 1 year ago
@norwaynever This information campaign is paid for by the companies listed on our website and does not include any public money. To learn more about the regulations and environmental management at BC salmon farms, please visit our website at BCSalmonFacts.ca
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
Brilliant commercial. Judging by the high travel to your You Tube site and farmed salmon facts website, this commercial did exactly what you'd intended. Well done!
AquacultureAwareness 1 year ago
Fact: BC salmon farms have been undeniably linked to the RAMPANT spread of sea lice to our native pacific salmon. Check out research by John Volpe at the University of Victoria, and many others. Fact: I have a friend who has been a fishing guide in Haida Gwai for 5 years and every year they see higher numbers of salmon COVERED IN SEALICE. Returning this year he told me that NOT ONE SALMON of the hundreds he caught during the months he was up there was free of lice.
MsCanadianpatriot 1 year ago
@MsCanadianpatriot That is VERY interesting! Especially considering that not ONE of the sea lice covered wild salmon your friend caught in Haida Gwaii (northern BC) has EVER passed a fish farm!! ALL salmon farms are SOUTH of Haida Gwaii and wild salmon don't swim south - they only swim NORTH to feed.
So...FACT...you've just proved that sea lice ARE a NATURAL part of the ocean and very common on all wild salmon.
Thanks for letting us know!
AquacultureAwareness 1 year ago
It's about time fish farmers stuck up for themselves. WAY TO GO!!! I love the fact you are posting and responding to all questions - the "activists" don't engage, so it's good you guys are leading the way.
Are there any different commercials coming out?
crampedu2 1 year ago
@crampedu2 Thanks for the feedback! We don't have any more commercials planned at this time, but have been extremely happy with the feedback thus far, so we wouldn't rule it out. We will upload some new YouTube fact videos soon though so stay tuned!
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
BIG difference between facts and PR. THIS is PR.
What firm?
Have you done research on the effects of sonic devices (used to scare away predators like seals and sea lions who often get caught up in nets around the farms) on dolphins, porpoises and whales?
Where does the feed come from and why is so heavily pumped with antibiotics?
What is the percentage of farmed salmon that have lice vs wild salmon, has it been disproven that the lice is sourced from these massive containers of Atlantic salmon?
jmtoriel 1 year ago
@jmtoriel No farms in BC use acoustic devices to scare away predators. The practice was used in the past, but as we are committed to innovation and sustainable practices, our techniques have evolved.
The feed is manufactured in Surrey and Vancouver, and does not contain antibiotics unless a special order is placed with a prescription from a professional veterinarian, and antibiotic use in salmon farms is very low. Usage amounts are detailed on bcsalmonfacts.ca
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
@jmtoriel Sea lice are present in the natural environment and have always been in the ocean. Studies have shown that sea lice levels can vary wildly, even in places where there are no salmon farms. In addition, recent studies have shown that even in the instances where salmon farms increase lice levels in the ocean, there is no evidence they contribute to wild salmon mortality.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
Missfitnikki If it wasn't safe it wouldn't be permitted to grow it. BC farmed salmon is delicious and good for you. Farmed salmon is like any other farmed food. If antibiotics or slice are used there is a mandatory withdrawal period that is required by law before the fish can be harvested. it is perfectly safe.
TheMyfancypants 1 year ago
Farmed salmon is not creating new biomass from the sea, but rather stealing other fish from the ocean to create fish pellets to feed salmon. NOT sustainable!
norwaynever 1 year ago
@norwaynever The fish used to make fishmeal and fish oil are not used for human consumption because they are very small and very bony. Fishmeal is also used to feed chickens, pigs, and pets. There is little or no market for them to be sold for human consumption.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
@norwaynever At a 1.2kg to 1kg feed conversation ratio, we have already come a long way towards our goal of producing more fish than we consume, and we are committed to continue to improve. To learn more about the efficiency of feed conversion in farmed salmon, please visit our website bcsalmonfacts.ca
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
I do not eat farmed salmon, and I would rather starve than eat it. Your farmed salmon are killing our native salmon stocks, poisoning salmon migration routes, and starving our sea mammals, as well as depriving eagles, seagulls, bears, wolves and rain forests of vital nutrition. Put your salmon farms on land, or get out of our country. You already devastated the salmon stocks in Norway and native fisheries in Chile. You are not welcome in British Columbia.
lynnescape 1 year ago
@lynnescape Salmon farms and wild salmon can, and do, co-exist peacefully in BC. Some of the biggest pink and sockeye salmon runs of the past century (2009 and 2010 respectively), occurred in regions where salmon farms are located. Salmon farmers follow strict regulations and even go beyond government requirements to make sure their practices are not harming wild stocks.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
@lynnescape Did you know that BC salmon farmers are world experts on land-based farming, and currently use these systems to raise their salmon?
For the first year of a farmed salmon’s life, they are grown in land based freshwater hatcheries. After a year (at about 15 cm in length), they are moved to ocean-based farms to continue growing. Ocean-based farms provide a natural place for the fish to be raised in with lots of space to swim.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
@lynnescape Salmon farmers are interested in further testing land-based farms to see if it’s viable (environmentally and financially) to grow Atlantic salmon from egg to harvest size (about 5 kgs), but to date, no commercial sized business has proved to be a sustainable option.
For more specific information we would suggest you visit our website, bcsalmonfacts.ca
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
What a genius ad campaign, it works both ways (so thanks for attracting more eyes on your destructive industry).
yes, I have informed myself about salmon farming, and my position is that you should get out of my province, if you aren't allowed to farm in your own country (Norway) then why elsewhere?
vancouverizer 1 year ago
@vancouverizer thank you for visiting our YouTube channel and watching some of our videos. If you have any specific questions about the facts presented in the videos please don't hesitate to ask!
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
You are not welcome in British Columbia ,Get your Filthy Pens out of our waters,
Who eats this crap anyways? Leave our waters alone!
Vanboozin 1 year ago
@Vanboozin Thank you for visiting our YouTube channel. If you have any questions about any of the facts mentioned in the videos please don't hesitate to ask.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
FACT: Atlantic Salmon do not belong in Pacific waters. Stop messing with nature & get your dirty diapers out of our water!
Squamptonya 1 year ago 2
@Squamptonya Thanks for taking the time to stop by our YouTube channel. If you have any questions about the facts presented please don't hesitate to ask!
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
SLICE is a treatment included in the feed, and is also approved for use in Canada by the CFIA and approved for import by the FDA. SLICE is only used sparingly (average 0.0002 kgs/1000 kgs of fish), and will only be prescribed under the guidance of a veterinarian. Salmon can only be harvested after a mandatory waiting period is over. Salmon (farmed and wild) is a very safe and healthy protein, and is recommended by The American Heart Association and Agri-Food Canada.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
Astaxanthin and canthaxanthin are important carotenoids eaten by wild and farmed salmon, and are very important for a fish’s health. Both are approved for use in fish feed by CFIA and FDA.
BCSalmonFacts 1 year ago
"we don't dye farmed salmon the colour comes from an important ingredient in their food" and those important ingredients would be astaxanthin and canthaxanthin, two colour pigmentation agents that are not approved by the FDA along with the SLICE you add to the food when sea lice populations get out of control. This is unsafe for the public to be consuming, time to tell the truth and get out of the ocean.
MissfitNikki 1 year ago