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  • Language, people, language.

  • we invented everything from the wheel to chicken show some respect

  • Britain is the ONLY nation to have started its own 'in house' space program, then Cancel it!!

    Another fine example of how this country was gradually flushed down the shitter.

    FYI when BAE sold it's Airbus shares a few years ago, that spelt the END of British 'ownership' in Civil Aviation!!! - We no longer build out own planes at all. All we build are parts as a subcontractor, for other non-british company. All that is left is a bit of military aviation.

    Utter SHITE!

  • So do you beleive you would be a good person if you weren't religious?

    Do you think someone who lives a religious life is more virtuous and more worthwhile?

  • Like they did with TSR.2 and the Avro 730. Or stealing our research for the Bell X-1 ... The Miles M.52 would have broken the soundbarrier with a jet engine, instead the US had to strap a rocket to it.

  • u = twat

  • This Video proves once and for all that all UK politicians should be shot, the good with the bad. How they have laid this country low...

  • peter snow = effusive shit-for-brains

  • Woo Hoo, UK, UK, UK!

    More nobel prizes per head than any other nation on earth!

    Sorry about all the tyrannizing we did...

  • EU(a platform you can use) US CHINA INDIA are the new beasts.The world is watching lets see how this pens out.Supporting ideas like wiping out middles east or taking back India will only reduce the repsect for you and I don't think you will be doing The British people any favour.Others please try to be respectful in other people's affairs.

  • Unfortunately you are right there -to balance China & India there needs to be a strong USA & EU. I say Unfortunately, because it means the UK will have to whole heartedly be part of the Fed of Europe-something this proud nation has resisted for many hundreds of years and has taken on every despot it has thrown at us from Napoleon to Hitler and Mussolini but now we will have to fight from within-quite ironic that after all of the resistance for freedom we have been taken over in "peace" times!

  • Well said.

  • The brits should celebrate the achievements all day and understand that was their time to shine and new empires will prevail,its only natural.Therefore try not feel bitter and spew hatred against the new players because it's important to step down gracefully.You will never be forgotten but like anything all things come to an end guys.

  • Britain was mighty and did conquer,it's a fact.whether good or bad they did,so they must have had tactics or technology because as a small island,we must give credit where it's due.This has nothing to do with moral grounds because no one in the world has any devine moral superiority so we are as bad as each other.

  • "It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway', but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko; - thats u anal bastards, that is.

  • so much for Britain and America being allies ;)

  • i Respect britain but it just pisses me off when i hear british say shit about America i know some Americans are kinda dumb >.> stupid >.> lazy and stuff but a few people doesnt make the whole country i knwo without the british the will be no USA.

  • @maxpeinO This is the point though Americans appear sometimes to be so up Uncle Sams A$ that they so easily upset other people by demeaning them.

    I find them offensive when they mention the "War" of independance as if they won it! -they didn't it was a compromise for the British -do we as the Super Power waste our resources pummelling our cousins to a pulp or attend to ruby rich india? -no contest -besides Washington & co made sure the USA was in the image of the motherland-only France lost!

  • Yea some americans are mean

  • no not mean -just do not understand the situation.....:) lol

  • Yea you can say that

  • @maxpein0 i like americans, i hate the american goverment. mainly with them thinking they own the world. i know the britian gave americans there own country back in 1776.

  • i let this thing buffer from the "5" screen for half an hour,and it stopped at 1.21

  • I now officially hate Americans.

  • no do not hate Americans they are okay really -just a little dumb that all

  • There not dumb, thats just Stereo typical.

  • Why must we as a nation hate on other races when in fact we are one race? Why can't we just despise the negativity that Humans posses as we are not perfect. Greed, power, money and materialistic things possess us. Why not for once we love and think positively as all goody, goody this sounds but the reality is if we as a people are not good with our hearts then we can't defrentiate ourselves from other nations we lose our identity.

  • We have the BNP which supports that, I wonder why they never win the general election?

  • Stupid ads.

  • fucking ruined the world,more like-anyway,stiff upper lip old boy-im off for my elevenses-toodlepip

  • who is happy with this so called modern world? haha...hehe

  • C'mon Britain, let's av it!!!

  • for the guy saying England cannot fight i have two things to say:: one: go search into rugby, then look at american football.... why the fuck are the americans all padded up when the ENGLISH rugby players take it.

    two: 9 11

    oh oh oh, another thing you Americans wouldnt even be living in America if it wasnt for the british so stop being so up your own arses immigrants an stop arguing about something so fucking stupid

  • lol stop with all the wiki comments you retards

  • The world is full of loonies, but some of them (us?) keep their sense of humour and achieve things for the benefit of others. 'Bugger it!' it's the truly British way ;O)

  • sticky4rod...

    go out and get laid you fucking prick..you don't have a clue what the fuck your talking about!

    British cannot fight men????

    who are the ones hiding and who are the ones fighting in the open?

    i hope you don't have the ability to have children because there are enough arseholes in this world already with out you adding to that number

    now go get cancer and die you fucking prick!

  • Let me guess, your a muslim scumbag. Hahaha.

  • I'll tell you who the FUCKING COMMON CRIMINALS ARE. THE STUPID MUSLIMS BEHIND THE FUCKING TERRORIST ATTACKS. We should just nuke the whole middle east, bunch of drugged up ragheads.

  • Wait just checked your profile, your a stupid little indian kid. HAHAHAA. 3rd world primitive fuck.

  • Rocket fluid propulsion was invented by an Englishman -and it was his plans the Nazis used to build their V2 rockets against Britain!

  • @Fartsurmonde the irony :O

  • back@xxmaterialgirlxx

    Yes irony -but Americans need to remember if it wasn't for the English they would not have got to the moon.;)

  • Without the British there would not be USA, or they would be speaking Spanish.

  • yeah all the american twats that slag british off dont thing about that

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  • @1995MattyD And squeezy cheese

  • England gave the world the first industrial revolution; was the first 1st-World country and Manchester & Birmingham were the crux of the industry.

  • i think the usa government bribed our government into scrapping our space programme, because we were winning in the race, usa prob told our govt that if they don't stop our programme, they would cut financial funding into ur nation, because we were bankrupt from the war. so govt stopped it. purely to stop embrassing america.

  • stupid government, you've gotta hate how they tread on the little guys.

    p.s. screw the french, they're nothing compared to great britain.

  • Wow, Why does there always have to be some sort of argument between the Brits and Americans. Personally its a waste of everyones time, to come on YouTube and throw Insults at each other. The Human Race ceases to amaze.

  • World Time (since 1884) Industrial Revolution Rolls Royce (split 1971 into Cars & Aerospace) Hovercraft World Wide Web Underground Railway Underground Railway Map Great Indian Peninsular Railway Vertical Take-Off Aircraft Supersonic Concorde And loads more!
  • Arguing who's best is pointless because every success is based upon others from other nations. But British people need to be reminded often that they can do stuff because they are such a negative bunch. I think the most important thing to think is: what are you going to do today, yourself, to help people like these engineers? Maybe it starts with being positive about the future and believing that amazing things can be done and being willing to make sacrifices for the sake of the future.

  • I dont think we are negative it is just a popular culture to make fun of ourselves here lol

  • Britain is the greatest nation in the world, everyone in the world knows this.

  • i fell asleep soz

  • I couldn't agree more with you cona192! I'm with you all the way.

  • God that looks like an absolute pile of shit.

  • Really we should be allowed to rule again. America should just back us and let us do as we wish the world would be a lot better for it.

    Lets start by taking India back.

  • Why would you want to rule a third world? You call Indians fucking immigrants and then you want their country? Are you thick? You fucking shit hole GB is already fucking in shit because it stole things from there and then separated India because of GB vile tactics. Go and fucking die you selfish prick. Go and buy yourself a brain or shall I say a conscience. Pile of British poop, go in the fire where you belong.

  • It says your from GB on your profile yet you come across as someone whos separate from the UK and doesn't really like it.

    Was you born in the UK? Or did you jump on a lorry and are now using my internet which a British citizen shaped and molded into the internet you see today? Cause you have no right to be near our internet at all because we've not given you permission.

    What we did to India was for the best; look at them now there a powerful country. They should thank us.

  • You mean they are known as a third world country, sure they love you for everything you did...NOT. Get me you know nothing about me and my love for England a great country now and forever. What I was saying, as you clearly didn't get the message was that some fucking twits for example the so called proud Britons commented that they are fucking proud to have repressed a country and ruling over the people of that country. I have no personal sympathy for Indians and am proud to be British.

  • Me too, but we only used India as a trade communion.

  • Nothing to brag about.

  • We dont call them immigrants :S, they can only be immigrants if they come into a country ILLEGALLY.

  • So many angsty people trying to deny history. One tiny little island conquered the world and did all this.

    I think it can be said we was the most successful and greatest rulers of the earth. We forced the people of the world to progress far faster medically and technically than any other time ever.

    Reality is America owes us for ther creation, the rest of the world owes us for being awesome enough to share our shit and enslave a lot of them importing them out there shit third world countries

  • oh my god! I hate that go compare advert more than david dickinson and I really hate David dickinson

  • Am i the only one who thought this video had something to do with Mw 2 (Game)

  • "Brits who made the modern world " funny ha ha ha

  • Fuuny? You act like you dont know how important Britain was? Are you american by any chance?

  • @sakc87 Educate yourself in history before you go laughing about it YOU DUMB PIECE OF SHIT.

  • really not the sharpest tool in the shed are you

  • anyone else getting buffer bugs? seems that the whole video is downloaded but its taking ages to render.

  • FUCKING GO COMPARE ADVERTS RARAAAA

  • us brits did alot to make the modern world, rockets, special forces, computors ect.

    yes, i am sort of a patriot, but that dosnt mean i like my goverment, as a wise man once said

    "being a patriot is supporting your country, and supporting your goverment when it deserves it"

  • Modern Warfare 2 quote by any chance? :P

  • yup =P

  • Lithuanian Semenavicius in 17th century published a book in which he designed the first rocket capable of reaching cosmos...300 years later russian Celkovski rediscovered this discovery (invention)

  • As a brit, you can trust me on this. Britain only made these things because it stole technology of of the Aztec's, white Spaniards, Greeks etc. What we need to be doing is start working together as a world, seeing as everything that exists is a result of the worlds brains being put together. You can stop with the childish comments, because we are in the same boat and its sinking fast, while we throw each other of it.

  • You dumb cunt.

  • ur dead right, if the whole world was to unite we wud b fucking unstoppable. but we always need an enemy ;) y cant every1 just hate the french

  • lol

  • Because of racist twits like you. If you don't understand anything then understand this that all HUMANS are one race and that is the HUMAN race. Yes we are all in different colours, shapes, sizes and personalities but that's what makes us different. If you went back in the history of your race then you would understand you have are the same race as a German, French, Chinese, African, Pakistani, yes bitch you are the same fucking race as a immigrant. It's just humans that like to label people.

  • And thats why England's is supporting non racism :), Your not English you hate everything about the Empire immigration is a bad thing stealing people's job when the recessions on

  • How come your only BITCHING and whining about England, why not Russia why not Prussia why not Germany why not Spain or France?

    Russia killed 20 million of their OWN people.

  • The honest answer to your question is, I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT RUSSIA. Am I living there? NO. Do I give a shit if people of Spain or Germany or even France make a fool of themselves? NO. You may be left with the question why the in hell do I care about what England does or if it kills people?

    Because I care, I love England with all my heart as silly as this sounds it hurts to see the hate and evil that is filled inside of my fellow Briton's heart.

  • so we took all of our technology from other people.... right. how on earth did spaniards help us with those rockets... harriers?!?.... the list goes on

  • The Spaniards helped you by giving you the tactics Britain used in their very first victories. The Greeks gave you the maths and science that Britain used, together with the other stolen technology to steal and take over other countries. Britain did invent things, but, as any idiot could realise, come up with all of this, by themselves, on a fucking Island. Obviously, it was many peoples minds put together. I.e, stolen technology and intelligence.

  • its not stealing its learning, education. by your logic everyone in the world who believes in gravity stole it from the british.

  • americans arn't smart, they have to steal ideas off other countries, like our language.

  • @youknowimright1 LOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • ...and what language did Americans use before they 'stole' one from the British?

    ...'m just curious...

  • ok i do see your point, but i don't see how america can say they have any form of identity since there culture is european, there economy is anglo saxon (british) and there language is anglish. My point was that america cannot have any self image, if everything that ameica has or takes credit for is another countries origin.

  • They never stole anything, I always understood the majority were british settlers (correct me if I'm wrong), so why shouldn't they adopt any british custom/idea they choose.

  • @amadrys77 .... they spoke native American "Cherokee" Americans did not steal the English language, they just ruined it......

    America was founded by Englishmen who conned or killed America's indigenous inhabitants.

    PS.... i'm Irish

  • But all of this pathetic argueing and racism in these comments is just embarrassing.

    wtf, "i'll make people like Britain by racially discriminating against them"...good idea! :S

  • britain made this world thats why everyone is a brainwashed thick cunt

  • WTF is all this Racism about?

  • why all the british being so mean in the comments? your probably not 100% british so you cant mock other ethnic groups.

  • not one person in the history of the planet is 100% anything so dont giv us that crap!

    i dont like it wen a muslim says there british just bcus they r born here, does that make a dog a horse bcus it is born in a stable? u hav to respect and follow our culture not try to change it, fucking half wit muslims, i wud like to see how they wud treat us going over there and trying to turn there countries into england. they wud fucking murder us!!

  • wow thats very ignorant stop blaming muslims what have they done? my step dad is muslim and hes great he got his biritsh passport came over here and supported my mum. now they have moved to turkey but sorry your jsut a fucking racist dick

  • 110% spot on brother!

  • if the british and americans make one big army we would destroy and take ovr every where

  • buahahahaha

    French army would be able to defend agaist both of the countires xD

  • British invetions that change everything : the Tank, the explosive round - bullet , the Radar, the computer, Special Forces, there is an endless list of the things that change war and the world that are British inventions, Britain modernized the World, Britain had the world biggest and strongest empier Ever ! Britain has never been taken by anyother counrty, a small nation with a very hard bite

  • Let's not forget the steam engine, the jet engine, railways, the telephone, DNA profiling. The weaving loom,

  • We English made the world, and own all of you

  • i would say the British did, not just the english. We scots came up with a few things ourself.

    e.g the telephone, anesthetic and the list goes on.

  • Egzackly

  • Yes but people like Bell, Watt etc had English surnames like most of the lowland "scots."

    They're not Celts at all - the Welsh are celts and look nothing like the Scots.

    They are mainly Germanics (i.e. English or Norse.)

    Besides, Watt only developed the steam engine and Thomas Newcommen (Englishman) was the inventor. Read up.

    American Farnsworth invented TV - Baird's system, contemporary, isn't used worldwide.

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  • Name an invention that isn't British??

  • invented in britan made in china!

  • China? thats ours!

  • you cant! basically everything is invented by use :)

    but because we are some small arse country we cant make everything :P

  • HI im Scottish and i wouldnt mind being Independant from Britain (which is one of the current ideas of the Scottish Parliment) and there is one thing that pisses me off.That one thing is when English people get Credit for Scottish Inventions!! It was the Scottish that made he Telephone,Television,Steam powered things we discovered Penicillan (dunno how you spell that) and LOTS more.

  • You can't be independent from Britain unless you move abroad ! I think what you mean is you would like to be independent from the UK . England Scotland and wales live on the largest Island in the British Isles that's why its called Great Britain because it's the Biggest of 5000 islands . You are free to go it alone politically if you wish but I don't think most of your countrymen would agree with you . As an Englishmen I think we are all better off together . We are all too small alone .

  • By the way I don't think any English person would claim Scottish inventions .

    It's just Foreigners who think British means English perhaps because there are more of us English than any other nationality in Britain . I wont go into a competition and list all the English inventions , It's all a bit pointless . But our small countries joined together made a formidable partnership . Could we have done it alone ? I don't think so !

  • well he did mean United Kingdom i think, but yes i do believe we are better together but we do get annoyed as a country due to the fact that we are often referred to as "English" not a scot or even british, i don't believe that we so much want to leave GB it's more that we just want to be recognized a separate country in GB not england, ( i am sure whales and northern Ireland will agree)

  • @Shetland4Life So much for "The united kingdom",I'm all for devoloution,just not when I'm on the wrong side of the fence,like I am now and getting shafted royaly,just to see my money go over the border.If you want independance,its total independance,no money from westminster,scotland has a serious problem with unemployment and an even bigger problem of the unemployable.The coffers would soon be empty if scotland got no money from westminster,they would soon lose all their cushy benfits what then

  • the only people that get it in easy in this country are lazy dole scroungers with a dozen children! there is no point in working hard anymore you might aswell settle down with some skank and have 10 children you cant afford

  • thats true... I got laid off in a job I thought was safe. So I had the shame of claiming dole for the first time.

    Thats when I found out that scroungers were entitled to more benefits and other help than I was even though I had paid my taxes and worked for a good majority of my life.

    Thankfully I will have my self respect back by the end of this month when I`m back at work.

    Scroungers for life get everything easy in this life.

  • Listen to you all bitching.

    Little bit of trivia. One of the guys on this project went on to manufacture amplifiers and supplied the Stones, Floyd, Quo and The Who at certain gigs. I bought my first car and amplifier of him. RIP Ted.

  • lol brits think they made everything , they just stole shit

  • the Brits did make evreything, the wheel, fire, cheese, you name it we made it

  • onions, badger hats........

  • The wheel?

  • is that actually true? as a second language, so many countries in europe speak English, I don't know how many, but so many Europeans speak some form of english don't they?

  • rofl .. :L

  • HAHA we stole loads of things but inventions we made ourselves

  • Popo. Say what you like mate fact is our nation is the ONLY one in Human history to be a "hyperpower" there have been Superpowers..USA...Romans...Ru­ssia...now China,India. however not ONE of them or your nation have or will ever be a HyperPower.we Brits were and are the only ones who can ever take pride in that. Largest empire in the history of mankind..the sun never set on the British empire at one time due to time differences.Over 2 and a half thirds of the earths surface was under our flag.

  • And that's something to be proud of? Stealing other nations work, it's Brits like you I fucking hate. Your bitch arse thinks it's proudness to rule and steal other countries treasures? You make me sick god if I be damned I'd kill your stinking ass back to hell where you come from. Take your racist and shitty thoughts out, that's why Britain once WAS the largest empire not anymore because of greedy people and racist people such as yourself. Fuck you, you pompous, sellf-righteous twit!

  • Hmm if we were racist and your just making an example of yourself, why would we want India why would we want New zealand Australia?, We wanted it for trade!

    Empire's were in fashion then until 1918 so why are you still crying?

  • Instead of posing a cynical attitude to the world why not come together as a nation, as a race and respect all. So if you see a muslim bombing London, yes stand against that and everything that comes with it. But don't bloody well go and disrespect all muslims, we are the same race. Yes these terrorists are ignorant bastards but don't you dare join their violent ignorance. You may think ignorance is bliss but not for these fuckers they will rot. Why join them?

  • span, we do respect all you're making an example of yourself and the media.

    Nobody disrespects muslims most muslims are doing this but we dont call them all terroist bastards like you just did!

  • Uggh, all terrorists are bastards and I'm not ashamed to admit that. But I never called muslims in general that. You sir are confused.

  • My question: why do the stone age twats have to believe in 'God'? Fucking desert digging, camel riding, cactus-eating Arabs! Why can't the whole world have intellectual conscience... thereby recognising the ignorance of dumb-ass religion?

  • I'm certainly not sorry for your prejudices that you have contained within your mind. I hope you don't hate Arabs because I hate racial hate of all kind. Where the question of religon and god stands I suggest to you have a open mind, I don't bitch to Atheists and how wrong they are because they choose to be close minded and are not able to see the bigger and insightful spritual picture. Sorry but if science is so great then why doesn't it solve the problems of the world and stop blaming god.

  • Certainly the Kings that rule these Arab countries are certainly twats and I agree with you but to blame a religon for the actions of humans, that's just pure ignorance and judgemental. You know how the saying goes don't judge a book by it's cover. Before you insult any religon go ahead first educate yourself on what this religon actually teaches rather then jumping to your own conclusions without reason and facts which you apparently believe in. Thought science tells you to look at facts.

  • I don't accuse a religon of being anything until I study it myself. For example I don't understand what problem Atheists have therefore I will not accuse them of doing anything until I have reasearched and read their bible/book that guides them. Or just ask them. Obviously Atheism is slightly confused so it is difficult to guess what each individual believes in. Before you say anything about Muslims I urge you to educate yourself by reading the Quran with English translation, then you can talk.

  • Read the Qu'ran actually. Its answer to any meaningful question is 'Allah said so'. Still, it is a truly beautiful book... the work of a poet... but how it inspired one of the great civilizations is beyond me - maybe the supreme Arab intellects and scholars read it differently to me, I don't know. Really though... fucking Shakespeare is more profound. The Quran wouldn't know psychology if it had bit the prophet on his arse. It is pure medieval mythology.

  • 'Oh, Allah said so'.

    That is that books answer to everything. I am European... I have read the greatest of greats... Plato to Nietzsche... why would I listen to that Arab bullshit? No offence, but holy books represent regression to me - a total sacrifice of the intellect. I am atheist by instinct.

  • I believe in a God, but not in Judgement Day. My God is an artist - he makes both heaven and hell on innumerable worlds. What is our pleasure without pain? God is greater than an earthly cult. He is the universe and the universe is infinite.

  • The concepts of 'sin' and 'unbeliever' are pure evil. Nothing is sinful. Simply being alive is being a believer. We are born for revolutions. We are born to create and evolve. Dogma, ideology, religion: that is the lie - because 'everything that lives is holy'...

    why else would it live, if it were not?

  • Haha, says who? A fool who is uneducated to what he says. Oh sure there are many intrepetations of one word, why can't there be of a entire book? If you didn't know those Arab scholars are not god , they are humans and humans can be greedy, selfish and manipulative YES manipulative. That's exactly what these Arab so-called scholars have done they have either mis-intrepetated or just plainly manipulated the words/people in order to meet their selfish desires. Full stop.

  • IN general religion was the filler for the void before science.

    People didnt know what made things tick so they invented sprites and demons and gods as an answer, but science is providing the answer to how things work now and no its not a definative answer to absolutely everything it is evolving and will continue to evolve there wont be one day when scientists say we know everything now we can stop researching.

    Religion is no longer and should no longer be a controlling force in modern life...

  • it should remain what it is a spiritual thing to be kept in mosques or in churches or synagogues or in your own home for that matter but should have absolutely no bearing on the way we live our lives anymore and no impact on the way our lives are governed.

  • @McDuff73 Well you will find soon enough the answers to everything when you die. Won't it be too late? Maybe but that's your problem.

  • @spanpinki too late for what?

    and whats a problem not knowing enough? no one know everything and to hope that you find out in an afterlife seems rather a waste of your current life.

    Live your life now and not for what you think you might get in an afterlife that doesnt exist.

    Worst case scenario for me is I'm wrong and I get forgiven :D worst case for you is your wrong and you've wasted your whole life.

  • @McDuff73 ignorance is bliss. Or thats what you think. How can you be so sure that you will be forgiven?

    Trust me I will live my life to the fullest, without a doubt but I can't seem to understand what do you think the point of life is? Do you think it is here for your enterainment? For you to have fun? With all of the complicated things in life you come up with a very useless motive or reason to your life. Sad I know even sadder when you find out you're wrong.

  • I dont recall saying I wanted to be ignorant in fact quite the opposite I am a man of science and the verifiable evidence it provides for most things these days as opposed to religion all religion which has no verifiable proof of anything and urges 'faith' blind faith at that!

    Yes life is for living to its fullest because when you die thats it nothing no afterlife and the saddest thing about people of faith is they wont even get to regret their wasted lives because there is nothing when you die

  • Well then Mr McDuff73 you think that people who believe in god or religon are fools? If so then you are no better. Oh wow that's a interesting theory that there is no point of life, seems very dull and pointless. The fact remains that science cannot answer or at least humans lack the ability to answer. You perhaps don't understand this but science and religon both are intertwined as one. Regardless of your beliefs. Religon tells you to good, I don't see any harm in that.

  • I would say indoctrinated, brainwashed misguided never fools.

    My life is certainly never dull which is probably why I never have to find some all empowering point to it similarly why I never have to turn to an invisible deity for guidance on how best to live it, now that I do find quite sad.Science and religion are most certainly not entwined for centuries Relgious people persecuted the men of science for daring to challenge their ideals.Tell me would you be a good person without your religion?

  • @McDuff73 you simply are proving my point that there clearly is no point of your life. Why bother living you might as well not exist as that's clearly what you're suggesting. POOF we popped out of nowhere and that is where we are to return, is that right? If so then you can keep living in ignorance. How can a world be created out of nothing? Answer me, I can.

  • @spanpinki it cant and at no point have I said that and as I said my living to enjoy myself may not be your cup of tea but it is a valid life in fact I would suggest more valid than those living for some sort of reward in a supposed afterlife.

    If you really think that people without religion believe the world just suddenly popped into existance then your either ignorant or naieve go read some actual science books as opposed to your narrow and distorted religious texts.

    You ignored my question!

  • @McDuff73 I would certainly be living a horrible life if there was nothing to guide me, religon in this case. Religon puts you on the right path so you can remove all of your selfish desires aside and care for others and become a nice human being. Rather then a self-centered twit as we see on the TVs nowadays. The TV (movies/reality shows) is a example of a corrupted younger generation who have nothing better to do then get the latest I phone or whatever. I'm sorry but your life is wasteful.

  • @spanpinki so your only nice because your religion tells you to be nice thats rather hypocritical and cynical.

    Whereas I'm nice because as I grew up my parents taught me to be nice to other people and I have also learned as I grew up that when I'm nice to people they are nice back.

    You say selfish desires I say personal fulfilment, people can be nice and still want personal happiness why on earth would you say a happy life is a wasteful life just because it doesnt conform to a religion....

  • @McDuff73 thats a selfish idea in itself.

    You have been brainwashed by your parents into a way of life that prevents any type of personal thought you are bound by the dogmas inflicted on you by your parents and by your religion you need help to break free from those shackles and see the actual real world should you choose to still be religious after that then that is personal choice and welcome to it but untill then you will remain in a cage of religion.

  • @McDuff73 Why do you think I am caged in religon? Is it because you feel that way? Things have happened in my life that I have come to increase my faith in god. God chooses who he wishes to guide and that is a fact. If the whole world was god fearing then wouldn't we all be perfect, but no we are humans we are not perfect. Yes I will fulfill my needs and desires to a certain extent following my religon. Human's need guides and my guide is god. When I fell suicidal and want to quit god helps me.

  • @spanpinki for exactly the reason I said, you were brainwashed into your religion by your parents and held there by the fact that religious dogma accepts no challenges to it.

    Its easy to hand off responsibility for your actions and your future to an invisible entity which is beyond reproach from the authorities.

    Your faith increased? surely faith is another form of fear a fear in the reality of life and faith is a cop out a way to excuse and ignore real life.

    If ur suicidal talk to a human!

  • @McDuff73 I am not handing of any responsibility to anyone but me.What can a human do if you tell them that you're suicidal? But make you feel even worse, humans can't solve a thing no wonder we haven't got very far as a human race. We are vain, selfish, superfical. I merely try to be the best of which I can.

  • @spanpinki you talk rubbish modern science including phsychology has helped many many people cope with a wide range of issue inclucing suicidal thoughts child abuse to name two.

    Its no coincidence that we have progress the farthest socially phsychologically and scientifically in the last few hundred years when in the same period the influence of religion has wained.

    Religion holds the human race back from achieving the pinnacle of what we can achieve.

  • @McDuff73 You could say it's in my head but what about those countless people in this world who cling on to religon even though they have the free will to part. It's because they love their creater and have been blessed to see the sense. Just because you are religous it doesn't mean you're nay better then anyone else but it just means you will live a happy life. Remember the best things in life are free and I couldn't agree more to how this is so true. If you become superfical then you have null

  • @spanpinki clinging to religion is not necessarily a sign of free will its more than likely they know nothing else they have been indoctrinated like yourself.

    'The best things in life are free like, illness, tidal waves, earthquakes.... I could go, you say being religious does not make you any better than others but you also say if you like material belongings you are superficial and therefore null! you have a confused outlook.

    and thats seems to me like your saying your better than others!