The official pentagon story is total bullshit.....there were at least 6 cameras on the attack side of the pentagon on 9/11. ...not only were there 6 cameras on the outside of the pentagon, there are cameras on the inside of the pentagon. Where the fuck are the tapes? ....there's even videos showing evidence being planted at the pentagon. 9/11 = Inside Job! ...cave-Muslims my ass...
Rolls Royce makes the engines for the plane that ALLEGEDLY crashed into the pentagon. there were engine pieces on the front lawn of the pentagon, but rolls royce engineers have PROVEN that the engines were NOT built by RR. boy the government sucks at lying, but it seems to be what they do most.
"but rolls royce engineers have PROVEN that the engines were NOT built by RR. boy"
[citation needed]
The only RR employee who "proved" it wouldn't have been able to identify it since he worked in a completely different division than that which manufactured the RB-211s.
I was basing this on the following "John W. Brown, spokesman for Rolls Royce (Indianapolis), had previously told AFP: “It is not a part from any Rolls Royce engine that I’m familiar with...""
and it does look as though he was simply a spokesman. i stand corrected.
@TheSkullShank That is a Boeing engine, stupid. I have saw diagrams of the entire engine. The person you mentioned, was fired the very next day, for (Incorrectly) identifying an engine he should have known, better then we could possibly imagine. (Loose Change Second Edition) has made millions. I haven't made one red cent, to try to prove our Government has told the truth. In addition, I don't care to make anything for trying to push the Correct Right (Story) Official Story.
LOL. I like how you open by calling me stupid, then follow up with "I have saw..."
That is indeed impressive, my friend.
The fact that you're saying the engine is Boeing sort of drives my point home even further, so thanks. Perhaps you should focus some more of your free time on an English book before you run around calling people on the internet stupid.
@TheSkullShank Really? Only gonna pick on my (Poor) grammar? Wow, that really shows intelligence.... (NOT)
I have saw that design, on a RR site. It's also listed in Boeing's site as well. And I believe you can also find it on American Airlines site. I also see no reason to search something, you could go search and find on your own. Call it an Inside Job, if that makes you feel good, while the rest of us know the correct and right truth.
Sorry for the cheap shot on your grammar. It was a reaction to your immature name-calling. Anyway...
Just to be clear, the PLANE was a Boeing. The ENGINE was a RR (RB211-535E4B to be exact). Did you know this already? I'm trying to figure out your angle.
It doesnt make me feel good at ALL to think that our own govt had prior knowledge of this event, and may have even assisted. Quite the opposite.
@TheSkullShank Considering the small amount of oil, even if it wasn't a small amount, even then, that's not good enough reason."We want our oil back."and"It'll make for cheaper gas prices."It wouldn't take long, for Americans to just want the gas prices to come down.The problem with possible prier knowledge,is how and when.There were warnings coming from more then one country,but Our Government more or less turned their backs on these warnings.These are the correct questions to be asking.
I believe it is the sheep like you who feel good, thinking that our government is fighting the good fight, when in reality they are just setting up for a permanence in that area of the world to control the precious oil. Havent you wondered about the other coincidences? I know what I saw that day on television, but don't you question some of the things that have surfaced since then? I don't demand that people believe the govt was involved, I only ask that people continue to question.
at 1.40 they look like a bunch of beekeepers wearing shoes 15 sizes too big, and at 0.13 where the hell is the wreckage on the lawn? Theres nothing there!! What a con! 9/11 was an inside job!
I suppose the Military UAV's captured on video hovering above the Pentagon during the DETONATION, or the Military UAV's captured on video flying all around the burning WTC towers belonged to Al Queda.........??!
You all need to keep up with the latest developments in the efforts to expose 9/11 for what is was: A false flag operation by OUR government, used as the pretext for invasion of the Middle East, and the tyrannical oppression of the American people.
Flight77 was never listed as flying on 911 so if it was not flight77 what was it? According 2 Norman Minetta who was in the bunker WITH cheyney on 911 they knew about the "target" when it was50 miles out yet they didn't sound a single alarm & allowed 148 people 2 die without warning. The FAA said "They thought it was 1 of our F16's because it was travelling so fast" too fast for a 747! The question has to be how anything hit the pentagon at all the most protected building anywhere in the WORLD!
wheres the wing hits on the left and right of the impacted site ? where those 6000 pound titanium jet engines ? Wheres the tail rudder hit on the roof before it collapsed.
America. your country wants war. it makes them rich. So they create reasons by killing you and blaming it on someone else.
@MsgtSpook, yeah you dumb fuck and you also believe George Bush tried to catch Bin Laden at Tore Bora and you believe Bin Laden is wanted for the attacks of 9-11.
If you're too dumb to find all the pictures of landing gear, wheels, engine parts, fuselage parts and burned bodies all over the Web & in newspapers, then you're way too stupid to even be discussing this with adults.
As you UK pansies keep importing more and more woggies, the average IQ is beginning to look like a 3rd world country.
MoronicSgtSpock. What the Fuck do you know about the UK? Not a lot obviously. The USA is built out of immigrants, the only natives are the tribes that we white people tried to eradicate to get rid of their magic and spiritualism. The pictures that I have seen of the crash site have been lacking in any detail that would confirm for certain what struck the building. I have NEVER seen photos of dead passengers strapped in their seats or even any seats or luggage for that matter.
Furthermore you can say everything you want, you will not change the reality : firstly, the lack of wrackage was not only reported by this reporter (and curiously, only aired once), but by several people as I mentioned. Secondly this was not reported during this day, but the official theory of the "vaporized plane" was the explanation until the truth mouvment started to say landing gears, engines, and more can't vaporized ! So they delivered fake photos and stoped teaching the plane vaporized !!
Yes I think you probably saw something crashed into the pentagone, missile, private jet, global hawk, ... whatever it was, but certainly not flight 77. The damage is totally consistent with a small flying object.
If you have a minimum of common sense, you will realize that after two crash in the WTC the pentagone was supposed to be on the alert. So that's really silly to believe that a third plane can crash in the more secured and strategical building of the world !!
... For several months we told us that was scientificaly normal that the plane vaporized because of the inferno. Thanks to people using their brain, we know today that's absolutly not normal, so the inside job theory started from this lie. Because of the undeniable physics rules wich explain that a plane can't vaporized, they changed their speech in the mainstream, and started to publish fake photos in 2002, with very big wreckages and some of them was so big that it was carried by several men.
... The chief of the fire fighter confirms the poor wrackages, and the responsible for the pentagone renovation also said that the smallest pieces of the plane could be picked in one hand !
This was so strange that the experts in disinformation we can see in the mainstream tried to explain this mystery by telling us that the plane just vaporized because of fire ! ...
You're a perfect liar jamestampere. The damage we can see in this video was only made hours after the crash. Few minutes after impact the stories was always standing up and there was a small hole. There was no wrackages at all inside or outside the pentagone. A reporter in front of the pentagone said that there was no evidences that could confirm a plane crashed in it. Behind this reporter we saw a beautiful green grass around the crash site ...
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no, i am not a liar. seriously, if you do not believe flight 77 hit the pentagon you are very silly. 1- i saw the plane hit the pentagon from crystal city after exiting a metro station (hundreds of people on the same street saw it).if you do you research you will realise that the damage visible is totally consistent with a 757 crashing into reinforced concrete.whatever a reporter said is irrelevant or has been taken out of context. i saw the plane hit along with 100s of others
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a small hole is normal when a 757 hits reinforced concrete (it was not crashing into glass). most of the wreckage outside the pentagon has been taken as evidence by the time u see this report. 100s of people saw the plane hit and i was one of them.the reporter was simply saying the crash was so severe, most of the plane had blown into 1000s pieces and no big visible parts remained...i saw the plane hit, so did 100s others, discussion closed
actually a small hole is very uncommon in a 757 crash dear....do some research. they even crashed a 757 into a vacant building in the same alleged manner of the pentagon incident. and the results were nowhere near the same!
I've proved more than you just by using my brain and watching the videos with my eyes open...instead of watching them eyes wide shut with the government's voice in my ear like you obviously do...A man was there with his camera at the scene...5 minutes after it happened...no wreckage....and all the jet fuel would have exploded like crazy like it usually does in these type of crashes...explain that!
@spanky071908 How were all the people killed at the pentagon actually identified when the official statement at the time was the fuel burned so hot it melted the titanium engines? I love my country but i hate my goverment
911 is the greatest HOAX in history. When are Amerian people going to rise up and demand a proper independent investigation - arrests, trial, and sentencing?
sorry friend, that hole was made by a plane. i saw the jet hit the pentagon. i was leaving a metro station in crystal city which is right next to the pentagon and 300 other people saw it too,if u check the video from the car park, the tail of an aa jet can clearly be seen behind the concrete pillar. if u think about it , the damage seen in this video is exactly the damage u weould expect to see if a jet hit reinforced concrete.
I admit that the movie Loose Change had many mistakes in it. But one which was not a mistake was when a greek passanger plane hit the side of a cliff, which is probably more reinforced naturally than the pentagon. From the wreckage there was a tail, wings, engines and massive pieces of the main body of the plane, including bodies still strapped to their seats! How is it possible that there was almost no plane wreckage from the pentagon??
there was LOADS of plane wreckage at the pentagon. it was oll over the lawn and inside the hole. go to flight 77 case study and it shows you the wreckage.
I have seen it! There is wreckage, but hardly anything at all, not enough wreckage for it to have been Flight 77. Any they already proved that the piece of engine they found was not the same type of engines used on B-757. There is also a perfectly round hole at the end of the wall which was supposedly caused by the nose of the plane. Its impossible for the nose of a plane to create a perfect hole like that because every time the nose of the plane is completely destroyed.
the wreckage found was from an american airlines jet. the engine came from a 757..anything you have heard claiming otherwise is false..the round hole was caused by the landing gear as it shot forward in the impact (the landing gear was found)..all of the passengers were identified by dna at the crash site (except 4)...oh, and did i forget to mention, i saw the american airlines jet hit the pentagon from outside a metro station in crystal city
Hmmm, no the wife and I are perfectly happy being heterosexual. You debunkers and bankster/politico apologists are the ones swallowing everything and anything that the Powers That Be squirt out their various orifices. I bet you are even grateful.
Oooh, nasty name calling. Away and shite ye daft fuckwit asshole. Do some research or even just open your eyes to all the crap before and after 9/11 and you might get promotion from sheeple first class to human being, or do you prefer to be a 'PERSON' as it appears on all your personal ID?
The things you believe are just so stupid. You believe, that on september 11th 2001, in one of the busiest cities in the world, in a city with more journalists and tv cameras than anywhere, it would actually be possible for a government to claim a 757 hit a government building when in fact it did not? you actually believe it was not a plane, when 200 plus people saw it, the the rush hour?!!!! You silly silly man...go away..
@jamestampedherfootandranaway, and you are a total wanker. I didn't say that. Obviously something fairly major hit that building, we just don't know for certain what it was. Like most fuckwitted retard debunkers you inflate every number relating to 911, 136 witnesses suddenly becomes 200. What did they see? None are certain except for shils such as Tim Timmerman who was certain it was a 757 even when such an ID would have been impossible.
@arisuta (codename for the dumbest twat on the planet). If you think for one second that we do not know for certain what hit the pentagon you're even more stupid than I thought. I have not inflated anything.There were in excess of 200 people who confirmed seeing a 757 hit the pentagon, I have actually rounded the figure down to 200 because you're probably to stupid to understand basic numeration.All but 3 or 4 out of about 220 confirmed it was a plane (the ones who did not confirm this
janestampedherfootandranaway, hmmm. cockgobbler still has access to a keyboard, what a nice facility they have it penned up in. No, we don't know for certain what hit the Pentagon because all decent footage of the event has been withheld by the powers that be and we have only you debunker twats' word for it that the fucking thing was a 757, a magic 757 with folding in wings that could punch through a concrete wall but whose heavy, dense engines couldn't, and the phrase is 'TOO stupid" cocksucker
only failed to confirm it was a plane because they heard the blast from the other side of the building and did not see the plane hit). Your statement that "we don't know for certain what it was" is too stupid to disprove and it is not worthy of anyone with any sense discussing. Cockgobbler?? why all the gay references? You obviously think about homosexuality all the time. You're obviously gay yourself, you're the one going on about it, not that it bothers me...
Duh, who is spouting shite? If they failed to confirm because they were on the OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING, then they aren't fucking eye witnesses, are they you fucking moron?
The gay references are nothing to do with me, you bring them upon yourselves because you are so gay in your automatic swallowing and bending over and taking everything that the fucking Powers That Be shove in you, you dumb asshole.
everything you say proves ur fucking thick useless piece of shit. oh, you found a typo, well done, at least you're not blind as well as retarded. Folding wings?? what are you on about?? you expect a plane to punch a cartoon cut out of itself when it hits concrete at 480 plus mph (the engines could not?? again, what are you on about, the engines where found inside the crash hole). The other side of the building? proves they are not eyewitnesses?? you don't say! you totally missed the point...
janestampsherfootandrunsaway, everything you say proves ur fucking thick useless piece of shil shit. How long have you worked for the Powers That Be? Folding wings is a witness statement by another paid shil who said that's what he saw. Mocked and reviled endlessly ever since. After looking at the WTC, yes I expect an aircraft to at least leave an approximation of its image on the exterior of any building, even a reinforced one. You totally missed the point on top of your head, Scouse cockjockey
sorry, but you're stupid/ and or making yourself look stupid. If you expect an aircraft to leave an approximation of it's image on the exterior of a building made from reinforced concrete, you know nothing of the subject of which you speak(you're talking crap anyway). If you think just because there was a large gap left in each WTC tower, that there should be an equal gap in the side of the pentagon, you know nothing. Educate yourself about material physics and you will learn this.
janestampsherfootandrunsaway, sorry, but you're stupid/ and or making yourself look stupid. I didn't say that it should leave an exact image but at least the engines should have ploughed straight through the wal,l if we are meant to believe that the much less dense fuselage did so. Educate yourself about government lies, black ops, false flag ops and lying and thieving and you might start to realise that all in the garden is not rosy.
you're wrong again. The engines did plough through the wall, they were found in the crash hole (one of them was, the other was found just outside), so you're totally clueless about the whole thing. What everyone writes to some extent is a reflection of something inside them, so you obviously have homosexual thoughts. I never brought it up, you did. I do not care if you're gay, but please don't put it on me by going on about it all the time.
janestampsherfootandrunsaway, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's what we are told ad nauseam by you official conspiracy theory lovers. SHow me some photos of the deceased passengers, their luggage and maybe then I'll start to believe that it really was flight 77 and not another of those pod fitted special aircraft that hit the WTC. Until then fuck off ya daft wee turd.
you actually think there were pods attached to flight 175 and flight 11?? You stupid twat. Bodies of passengers?? You can find them if you put your mind to it...i'm sure even you could do it.
I've seen something under those planes, I guess they don't show up when you're wearing your government issued rose tinted glasses you piece of shit shil asshole. I have looked for pictures of passenger bodies to try and make some sense of this whole thing and came up with deceased Pentagon workers. If you have some better images, make yourself a debunkernut hero by posting a link on here and you will be the toast of the debunkernut shil scum bag asshole crowd, (quite a privilege........NOT!)
you have seen nothing under those planes you dope. you think you can see something, but all you see is the normal belly of a 757. Idiots have made wasters like you believe that the belly of a 757 looks different to what was photographed on 9/11, but this is not the case.There is nothing at all under those planes, it is not my job to explain why, go and find out for yourself why you're wrong. Images of passengers (strapped in seats) from flight 77(burnt/ dead of course) are available.
@jamestampere, you sound like Barbara Bush repeating herself repeatedly on TV while maintaining an unblinking, hypnotic stare at the camera and stating that everyone is waking up to a safer, better world because George Bush is president. Keep repeating your pathetic drivel and eventually even a shil like you might start to really believe it. Please provide a link to the images you say are out there, other debunkernuts have failed in the task when challenged.
Janestampears, I didn't say that. The planes that struck the towers OBVIOUSLY had something atached. The original planes couldn't have as it would have been seen. The planes were diverted and replacements struck the towers. They were remotely controlled, hence the pods. Look up the technology, made by an Israeli company.
you actually believe replacement planes hit the towers??? that's too silly to even discuss. Sorry. Flight 11 and flight 175 hit the towers and there was nothing attached to either plane. The belly of the planes are normal for a AA and United airlines 757. There was NOTHING attached to any plane that hit the twin towers. Please explain what you think was attached? I am telling you there was nothing. The images of pentagon wreckage and passengers is available, why can't you find it?
Wow m8 , how many way's do you want it ? the crash melted all the seats , the 6 ton engiens , tail n wings , leaving the 1st floor pent windows and roof intackt , knocking down street lights and destroing cars without touchimg the lawn , andthere are bodies ? when engiens melt to nothing in 6 mins ?
too silly to even discuss ! Hollywood CIA
Arisuta2 has pointed out what we all seen , and tv pundits commented on !
you are an ammusment , going against your own eyes to post conjecture n pish !
No, it isn't it is a strong possibility, especially as the planes overflew an airbase on their route and could have been swapped there. The pods attached are part of a remote guidance system marketed by an Israeli firm. Yeah, lots of wreckage and dead people pictures, I just don't think Hani Banani Hanjour, the hanky panky king was involved, he sould barely taxi a plane never mind all that fancy flying to hit the emptiest part of the Pentagram.
no planes were swapped. this is insane. that means all the passengers were in on the plot, or were murdered while empty planes were used....!! i could go on but this is too stupid to talk about really. There was NOTHING attached to any plane. This has been proven. The photos of the underbelly of each plane claiming to show something have been totally discredited. All you see is a normal 757. How do you know how hard it is to fly into the side of the pentagon?
iv seen a vid with Hanjour's Flight instructor , He says hsj was pish , and would'nt let him solo !
They fuked over 2,800 of there own , do you think 30ish 100ish more will worry them , we arnt talking about the local polis who feels a bit of guilt after dowin ye in a cell , these cunts think its all there's to run ,That means you Larr , the moves the so called planes pulled of are Hollywood
Correct Jane, the planes COULD have been swapped and the passengers would have been murdered. The pilots and passengers would have no control of the plane as it was remotely flown where it was wanted to go.
you're wrong iris, the planes could NOT have been swapped. This theory is insane. Full stop. Next, re your comments about the Pentagon, the normal thing to do would be to circle the building as he did, and fly into the side. It is not difficult to realise why. Have a think about it. Crashing across the roof would have been no different than hitting the side (again research it) and diving into the pentagon would have been stupid (again think about it). He did the normal thing.
Thought about it Jane &it still makes absolutely no sense unless the person controlling the plane was well aware that no intercept was on its way & that they really wanted to hit that particular section and not Rummy's office which was on the direct flight path. If these guys were meant to have done their homework and lots of training, they would know where every vital or high level target was in the building. Taking out the newly reinforced and lightly manned area makes NO SENSE! Just like you.
as if he knew where Rumsfeld's office was!!! Just listen to yourself! You're wrong. Read about it, given his approach to the pentagon, the mechanics of flying a plane suggest he hit in the exact place you would expect him to (to circle the building, line up and then hit. It would have been nearly impossible to dive into the pentagon or to hit the other side (it is not my job to explain why, go and research it)
Well, since it is possible to have guided tours of the buuilding and probably possible to get rough plans of it, certainly before 911, I guess these SUPERBLY REPARED SUICIDE ATTCKERS could have worked it all out. Wasn't the agenda on the day though, was it, whoever did this wanted minimum casualties and damage, so the emptiest and best reincforced part was deliberately targeted.
just because you get get guided tours does not mean you would know were a certain office is. Yes, you're quite right. The people who did this wanted minimum casualties. If it was a conspiracy by someone other than al queda then the same people must have been involved in New York, yes quite right, minimum casualties, that is why they crashed 2 jets into the WTC killing over 3500 people (minimum casualties??) (and they could have killed many more if the towers came down faster).ur theory is silly
does it not occur to you, that it may simply have been too difficult to crash the plane into the other side of the building. The plane's descent meant they had to crash it into the side they did. It is really not as complicated as u think, if u think about it, it is really quite obvious why they circled the pentagon and lined up before hitting it. You just do not understand...
James! So good to see you back still working for the government? You know I have your email where you admit you do! Come come stop spreading government lies. NO PLANE WAS EVER EXAMINED under the direct orders of the FBI. All reports were to the damage to the pentagon and NOT the plane, who throws away the plane and investigates the building it slammed into? The BPS report was a vague account of the attack with UNSUPPORTIVE quantitive details it also offset the c-ring punch-out hole by 4 feet!
you're wrong again. the plane was never thrown away.a plane wreck was examined at the pentagon.all details were totally in line with a plane crashing at the pentagon, nothing else.
Was the plane rebuilt as much as possible as is doen in every other plane crash? Is there a hanger somewhere with a partially reconstructed flight 77 inside it? Don't think so Mr. Government shil. It could well have been flight 77 that slammed into the Pentangle but if it was then it was being remotely controlled. Research it, it's perfectly possible. (oh, sorry, I forgot, you don't have to research, you just have to ask your handler or check the REAL official story in your handbook)
I repeat NO PLANE WAS EVER EXAMINED FACT! All investigations were restricted to damage to the pentagon ONLY! The ASCE later called the BPS report was sadly lacking. The NTSB was overseen by the FBI and do not nor ever have issued a report about flight 77. They said (Quote) "they do not plan to issue a report or open a public docket" The official Purdue simulation of flight77 doesn't account 4 the facade walls, the second floor slab or columns and neglected 2 include the engines 4 the jetliner!
@caz240 A PLANE WAS EXAMINED. All investigations were related to the PLANE and the building. The engines were found at the crash site. I am not continuing to discuss this with you again.
U will not discuss it because U cannot answer the FACTS I present. the smell of cordite was in the air did U smell it U say U were there? Other witnesses smelt it & this is a strong indicator explosives were used. The area of the pentagon "hit" was the only part singled out for "special maintenance". Witnesses heard 2 explosions & yet we are still 2 receive any footage showing a 747. We are expected 2 believe that titanium & steel evaporated yet fingerprints were taken from the bodies retrieved.
of course caz means a 757. How did Tim(I'm a tit)Timmerman manage to absolutely identify it as a 757 as it sped past when it COULD have been either a 767 or an Airbus which are almost identical at that speed? The big picture tells the truth of the situation. Warnings were given by agencies around the world, the FBI were tracking the suspects but were stood down, Dubya needed a good excuse to invade Iraq as Saddam had resisted the Financial hitmen and the Jackals, etc. etc. The truth will out!
My "baseless ideas" as you call them are from OFFICIAL reports, OFFICIAL documents presented as EVIDENCE to the 911 commission, testimony given in person to the 911 commission and from the 911 commission report THE OFFICIAL PUBLISHED RECORD of the events surrounding 911; dammed by their own evidence and NOT my ideas. 911 was most certainly a military operation designed to create fear to gain public backing to go to war with a country that had absolutely NOTHING to do with Osama Bin Laden or 911!
The 503 first responder eye witnesses who testifed about bombs in the buildings, how they were given prior information WTC7 building was being brought down in a "controlled manner" when did they have time 2 survey WTC7 in order 2 plant the explosives 2 bring it down in a controlled way? It takes months 2 survey a building 4 demolition yet they want us 2 believe they did it on 911. You & I both know the murders still go on silencing those who dare 2 speak out about what happened 2 them on 911.
There were no bombs in buildings. Anyone who said so is mistaken or is taken out of context. No building was brought down in a controlled explosion. The discussion is over, I told you.
How do you know how well Hanjour could fly? How do you know what the flight school teacher said about him is true? (That he could not fly well) Maybe conspiracy theory people are making it up? If he did say he could not fly well, maybe Hanjour was faking being a bad pilot so he could not be suspected of something spectacular? How do you know he was already not an expert pilot before he even came to the USA?? Etc etc etc etc etc etc etc....
Jane, now you are reaching, what if, what if, what if? What if he was an ace pilot who knew exactly what he was doing, why the FUCK would he fly all the way around the building to hit that exact spot? No good reason. I reckon the best plan of attack for a nutter would be to crash the plane across the rooftops of the building and thus scatter burning fuel and debris over as large an area of the building as possible. That's what a REAL terrorist would have done, not a false flag op.
P.S. Nothing wrong with my wife, totally gorgeous sexy lass, your displeasure at being called a homosexual is very telling however, a bit too close to home I guess. Cottaging much?
anyone who makes a point about sexuality (as you did) when it has no relevance to the discussion, is clearly insecure. you frequently talk about being gay etc, which clearly means this is on your mind. I never voiced any displeasure at being called gay because 1- i know i am not and 2- i don't care what you say. I just pointed out that you have demonstrated evidence of being gay yourself by going on about it all the time. Cottaging? see, you're at it again. You obviously do it or why else say it
Nah, ya daft wee twat, I don't give a flying fuck what your stupid wee amateur psych evaluation tells you about my posts, they are simply insults, no reflection on what I really think or feel, (except contempt for you). Never mind, it will soon be time for you to eat Big Bob's cock-meat sandwich and then you can lose yourself in the moment.
i was simply saying that out of the 220 or so witnesses , only 3(who were on the other side of the pentagon) did not confirm it was a plane, this was obviously because they could not see it. The fact is, 215 minimum confirmed it was a 757. Somehow you're so stupid you missed this point too. The gay references are to do with you, as you are the one making them over and over you silly little prick. Maybe your wife can help you with this (or maybe she's the problem? who knows). don't involve me!
janestampsherfootandrunsaway, How about the witnesses who saw the plane fly on a flightpath to the north of the gas station which would preclude it knocking down the light poles? How about the massive concussive blast accompanied by the smell of explosives that coincided with the impact? There are alot more questions raised by witness testimony than are answered by it. 215 people couldn't possibly confirm it as a257 as it is almost identical in flight to 767s and Aibus jets. It was a large jet.
"Why they not know about this, Anger & Pressure for America to react, We will not distinguish the terrorist Iraq & Iran, Catastrophic failure for the Intelligence, etc". Hear all the plotted mainstream Media with the astonishing words, Evidence is everywhere yet the people have NO power except the Gov and the FED. Advantages of Denials. ROTHSCHILD DYNASTY
Many are died for give the democracy to us but we have made ourselves to steal from the massoni,bankers that they have made"11-09"if a giambo account has been disintegrated the Pentagon, only making a hole of 3 mt in which military airport it is landed and who has eaten the passengers?All governments and religions have betrayed!Why the threat to the people has been so comprehensive!React with a meeting universal prayer every Monday from20 to 21,because if God has many religions is always One
Just because there are a million half-baked theories, it doesn't mean we are told the truth. There are simply too many holes. For one, why would terrorists spend years planning this and not claim responsiblity. Even a single suicide bomber makes a video. Why hasn't one single piece of evidence linking this to Bin Laden been found/or shown...Oh yeah they found a passport in the rubble!The answer is simple. They had nothing to do with it.
There are 86 cameras trained on this building, including in businesses in the area and the FBI confiscated every one of them. If there is nothing to hide, then show them all! The place just got hit and they already know who did it?!
theyve released 4 but you cant see an aeroplane in any of them. If they wanted to get the US Citizens to start trusting the government again, all they have to do is release the other 80 videos
Thousands of innocents died for state sponsored terrorism this day, may they R.I.P.
'False flag' terrorism has been used time and time again in order to coerce people into following their government blindly. Do not let that happen to you.
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ITs a simple question folks. Where is the plane wreckage? Obviously one would think with such a horrific crash we would see one piece of wreckage on this video. Or are you guys saying that the entire plane is inside the pentagon?
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Twoofahs use the "reverse scientific method"... they decide what happened, and then throw out all evidence, data & science that doesn't fit their "theories," and then hail their fantasy as the only possible conclusion.
What is amusing is watching them invent theories, stampede in a herd to support that theory with religious zeal. And then when that theory is demonstrated insane (holographic planes? directed energy weapons?), the herd stampedes to the next silly theory.
TOXIN YOU MISS THE POINT. Why would we need to look at photos from somewhere else. This is a freaking video of the seen. Are you telling us that almost every piece of this plane ( millions of parts) is inside the pentagon and not scattered on the lawn here?
Twoofahs use the "reverse scientific method"... they decide what happened, and then throw out all evidence, data & science that doesn't fit their "theories," and then hail their fantasy as the only possible conclusion.
What is amusing is watching them invent theories, stampede in a herd to support that theory with religious zeal. And then when that theory is demonstrated insane (holographic planes? directed energy weapons?), the herd stampedes to the next silly theory.
if only the whole pentagon went down like a stadium demolition, one hit in the corner and down it would go like a ring of dominos..."Jet fuel melted the steel structure"...lack of maintenance on fireproofing" how fun that would have been to eat popcorn to (Pah)
Just listening to these comments the US Military Might, well if we are to believe that this was carried out by terrorists one of the a military might was caught with its pants down, so much for all the intelligence bla bla bla.Inside job i definitely thinks so. There is far too much in the public domain which states this was an orchestrated attack by a large number of people, and certainly not the terrorists themselves.Bin Laden claimed a victory to which was never his in the first place.
There was a cospiracy to go to war in Iraq for sure. Anyone who had been looking at Saddam was aware of the fact that he was defeated and humble.But he gots the oil. The anti war movement was hijacked by republicans and led into obscurity by the likes of right wing nutters like Alex Jones. America's fear of the unions and other rights groups has left it unable to look for answers from the traditional sources. Even your radicals are CIA plants and rabbid neo nazis now.
Gee i wonder how that could possibly be possible considering it fel to the ground and the underground areas are away from the impact zone. So there was nothing more to collapse.
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Twoofahs use the "reverse scientific method"... they decide what happened, and then throw out all evidence, data & science that doesn't fit their "theories," and then hail their fantasy as the only possible conclusion.
What is amusing is watching them invent theories, stampede in a herd to support that theory with religious zeal. And then when that theory is demonstrated insane (holographic planes? directed energy weapons?), the herd stampedes to the next silly theory.
one book you all should buy or download is called "Propaganda" it was written in 1928 by Edward Bernays nephew of Sigmund Freud. anyway its the model the Nazi party and the corrpt groups in the US govt use to maipulate the masses by use of propaganda
I'd like to see a follow up on the families of the victims. There is too much stuff that doesn't make any sense at all. We all can see the cover ups here and there. Who can catch those responsible? It's getting embarrasing to be called an American these days, because the world is thinking they are all stupid.
How completely do they fool you? Just Google any of these and Matt Marriott
Lottery
ISS
BECAUSE the TRUTH is NEVER TOO HORRIBLE, even if YOU, the sheep, realize it only INSIDE the slaughterhouse.
9/11 FULL STORY was exposed worldwide first long ago.
From TV Fakery (no planes) to mini H bombs upwards directed, how Barbara Olson was murdered immediately after Massood, how Lisa Beamer was fooled, why the Pentagon and WTC7 were in the script, etc.
look at 2:03 - 2:07...there are dark regions - burning - far from the impact, and right by impact there are no such dark regions, so - there were no fire right at impact place??you gotta be kidding!!oh, and a Pearl Harbor - no shit, and take a look at zeitgeist and you'll see that america planned the attack on pearl harbor.
Those in the White House who planned these attacks and forged the Pentagon videos, and forged the story about an airliner, they must be braught to justice even if later in history. Their memories will be cursed.
911 : THE ACCUSATION - KEVIN SMITH SH0W & ROBERT JAN KELDER
LATELIERDELALIBERTE 7 months ago
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The official pentagon story is total bullshit.....there were at least 6 cameras on the attack side of the pentagon on 9/11. ...not only were there 6 cameras on the outside of the pentagon, there are cameras on the inside of the pentagon. Where the fuck are the tapes? ....there's even videos showing evidence being planted at the pentagon. 9/11 = Inside Job! ...cave-Muslims my ass...
Born2Flesh 10 months ago
Rolls Royce makes the engines for the plane that ALLEGEDLY crashed into the pentagon. there were engine pieces on the front lawn of the pentagon, but rolls royce engineers have PROVEN that the engines were NOT built by RR. boy the government sucks at lying, but it seems to be what they do most.
TheSkullShank 1 year ago
"but rolls royce engineers have PROVEN that the engines were NOT built by RR. boy"
[citation needed]
The only RR employee who "proved" it wouldn't have been able to identify it since he worked in a completely different division than that which manufactured the RB-211s.
travelsonic 10 months ago
@travelsonic
I was basing this on the following "John W. Brown, spokesman for Rolls Royce (Indianapolis), had previously told AFP: “It is not a part from any Rolls Royce engine that I’m familiar with...""
and it does look as though he was simply a spokesman. i stand corrected.
TheSkullShank 9 months ago
@TheSkullShank That is a Boeing engine, stupid. I have saw diagrams of the entire engine. The person you mentioned, was fired the very next day, for (Incorrectly) identifying an engine he should have known, better then we could possibly imagine. (Loose Change Second Edition) has made millions. I haven't made one red cent, to try to prove our Government has told the truth. In addition, I don't care to make anything for trying to push the Correct Right (Story) Official Story.
Fieve.
FievelJ69 10 months ago
@FievelJ69
LOL. I like how you open by calling me stupid, then follow up with "I have saw..."
That is indeed impressive, my friend.
The fact that you're saying the engine is Boeing sort of drives my point home even further, so thanks. Perhaps you should focus some more of your free time on an English book before you run around calling people on the internet stupid.
TheSkullShank 10 months ago
@TheSkullShank Really? Only gonna pick on my (Poor) grammar? Wow, that really shows intelligence.... (NOT)
I have saw that design, on a RR site. It's also listed in Boeing's site as well. And I believe you can also find it on American Airlines site. I also see no reason to search something, you could go search and find on your own. Call it an Inside Job, if that makes you feel good, while the rest of us know the correct and right truth.
Fieve.
FievelJ69 10 months ago
@FievelJ69
Sorry for the cheap shot on your grammar. It was a reaction to your immature name-calling. Anyway...
Just to be clear, the PLANE was a Boeing. The ENGINE was a RR (RB211-535E4B to be exact). Did you know this already? I'm trying to figure out your angle.
It doesnt make me feel good at ALL to think that our own govt had prior knowledge of this event, and may have even assisted. Quite the opposite.
TheSkullShank 9 months ago
@TheSkullShank Considering the small amount of oil, even if it wasn't a small amount, even then, that's not good enough reason."We want our oil back."and"It'll make for cheaper gas prices."It wouldn't take long, for Americans to just want the gas prices to come down.The problem with possible prier knowledge,is how and when.There were warnings coming from more then one country,but Our Government more or less turned their backs on these warnings.These are the correct questions to be asking.
Fieve.
FievelJ69 9 months ago
@FievelJ69
I believe it is the sheep like you who feel good, thinking that our government is fighting the good fight, when in reality they are just setting up for a permanence in that area of the world to control the precious oil. Havent you wondered about the other coincidences? I know what I saw that day on television, but don't you question some of the things that have surfaced since then? I don't demand that people believe the govt was involved, I only ask that people continue to question.
TheSkullShank 9 months ago
There was NO conspiricy, only the plan of the terrorists!
flynbil 1 year ago
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CSMSnake 1 year ago
at 1.40 they look like a bunch of beekeepers wearing shoes 15 sizes too big, and at 0.13 where the hell is the wreckage on the lawn? Theres nothing there!! What a con! 9/11 was an inside job!
wellifthemediasaysit 1 year ago
The Pentagon on 2001 has the worst Camera surveillance in the world! Time to upgrade them 1.3's
iTalented 1 year ago
BTW, does anyone have a tape of them bringing people out in body bags like the WTC? Any tape of them taking bodies away in hearses?
TexasRose50 1 year ago
WHERE ARE ALL THE OTHER VIDEO TAPES OF THIS ATTACK?? THATS AL I WANT
MERCURHILLMANIAC 1 year ago
What a crock of SHIT........
I suppose the Military UAV's captured on video hovering above the Pentagon during the DETONATION, or the Military UAV's captured on video flying all around the burning WTC towers belonged to Al Queda.........??!
You all need to keep up with the latest developments in the efforts to expose 9/11 for what is was: A false flag operation by OUR government, used as the pretext for invasion of the Middle East, and the tyrannical oppression of the American people.
apatriotofusa 1 year ago
who were "the suits" that were scanning and picking up debris on the lawn at the pentagon????
420wabisabi 1 year ago
Flight77 was never listed as flying on 911 so if it was not flight77 what was it? According 2 Norman Minetta who was in the bunker WITH cheyney on 911 they knew about the "target" when it was50 miles out yet they didn't sound a single alarm & allowed 148 people 2 die without warning. The FAA said "They thought it was 1 of our F16's because it was travelling so fast" too fast for a 747! The question has to be how anything hit the pentagon at all the most protected building anywhere in the WORLD!
caz240 1 year ago
is that a NORAD 9/11 policy ?
krs306 1 year ago
Yes, troglodytes with knives made the Pentagon fall down. They did it at the WTC, too....
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago 2
wheres the wing hits on the left and right of the impacted site ? where those 6000 pound titanium jet engines ? Wheres the tail rudder hit on the roof before it collapsed.
America. your country wants war. it makes them rich. So they create reasons by killing you and blaming it on someone else.
Davidbzm01 2 years ago 2
THANK YOU FOR AGREEING WITH ME
THINKgreen3331 1 year ago
well fuck them all you are getting lied to left right and centre in order to take away YOUR rights.
zenoist2 2 years ago 6
well im glad you accept without question anythng ofiicial spook.
Its always a good way to stagnate and never change and let people get more and more power over you.
zenoist2 2 years ago
one to figure they've been lied too actually.
zenoist2 2 years ago
How many Truthers does it take to change a light bulb?
Fifteen.
Five to figure out that the bulb has burned out.
Two to hold the ladder.
One to turn the bulb.
Five to quickly search the PrisonPlanet archives to see why this was the Jews' fault
Two to spam comments all over Youtube, claiming this is the ultimate proof that the government was behind 9-11.
No laws of physics were broken in the writing of this post.
MsgtSpook 2 years ago
@MsgtSpook, yeah you dumb fuck and you also believe George Bush tried to catch Bin Laden at Tore Bora and you believe Bin Laden is wanted for the attacks of 9-11.
whaledog77 2 years ago
Any dipshit with his head up his arse can see that the pentagon was not hit by a plane, Where are the engines?
Debris?
Video surveilance?
Anyone who says different clearly has not looked into the united states policies at even the most minimal level.
Take a look at what your wonderfull goverment has done in
Ecuador
Venezuela
Puerto Rico
Then remove your tiny head from your stupid ass.
Sheeples
iziahlights 2 years ago 3
"Where are the engines? Debris?"
If you're too dumb to find all the pictures of landing gear, wheels, engine parts, fuselage parts and burned bodies all over the Web & in newspapers, then you're way too stupid to even be discussing this with adults.
As you UK pansies keep importing more and more woggies, the average IQ is beginning to look like a 3rd world country.
MsgtSpook 2 years ago
MoronicSgtSpock. What the Fuck do you know about the UK? Not a lot obviously. The USA is built out of immigrants, the only natives are the tribes that we white people tried to eradicate to get rid of their magic and spiritualism. The pictures that I have seen of the crash site have been lacking in any detail that would confirm for certain what struck the building. I have NEVER seen photos of dead passengers strapped in their seats or even any seats or luggage for that matter.
FUCK OFF RETARD!
arisuta2 1 year ago
lol there is no way in the world that building was hit by a plane, it have only collapsed :O look at the roof, and were is the plane wreck ?
infectedmordn 2 years ago 2
Mounts of dirt surrounding the Pentagon...
IquestionUanswer 2 years ago
what about shortening the orange-crate blackbox recording, always with the missing tapes & gaps these...
zeuqzavaj 2 years ago
Furthermore you can say everything you want, you will not change the reality : firstly, the lack of wrackage was not only reported by this reporter (and curiously, only aired once), but by several people as I mentioned. Secondly this was not reported during this day, but the official theory of the "vaporized plane" was the explanation until the truth mouvment started to say landing gears, engines, and more can't vaporized ! So they delivered fake photos and stoped teaching the plane vaporized !!
Democrature 2 years ago 3
Yes I think you probably saw something crashed into the pentagone, missile, private jet, global hawk, ... whatever it was, but certainly not flight 77. The damage is totally consistent with a small flying object.
If you have a minimum of common sense, you will realize that after two crash in the WTC the pentagone was supposed to be on the alert. So that's really silly to believe that a third plane can crash in the more secured and strategical building of the world !!
Democrature 2 years ago
... For several months we told us that was scientificaly normal that the plane vaporized because of the inferno. Thanks to people using their brain, we know today that's absolutly not normal, so the inside job theory started from this lie. Because of the undeniable physics rules wich explain that a plane can't vaporized, they changed their speech in the mainstream, and started to publish fake photos in 2002, with very big wreckages and some of them was so big that it was carried by several men.
Democrature 2 years ago
... The chief of the fire fighter confirms the poor wrackages, and the responsible for the pentagone renovation also said that the smallest pieces of the plane could be picked in one hand !
This was so strange that the experts in disinformation we can see in the mainstream tried to explain this mystery by telling us that the plane just vaporized because of fire ! ...
Democrature 2 years ago
You're a perfect liar jamestampere. The damage we can see in this video was only made hours after the crash. Few minutes after impact the stories was always standing up and there was a small hole. There was no wrackages at all inside or outside the pentagone. A reporter in front of the pentagone said that there was no evidences that could confirm a plane crashed in it. Behind this reporter we saw a beautiful green grass around the crash site ...
Democrature 2 years ago 2
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no, i am not a liar. seriously, if you do not believe flight 77 hit the pentagon you are very silly. 1- i saw the plane hit the pentagon from crystal city after exiting a metro station (hundreds of people on the same street saw it).if you do you research you will realise that the damage visible is totally consistent with a 757 crashing into reinforced concrete.whatever a reporter said is irrelevant or has been taken out of context. i saw the plane hit along with 100s of others
jamestampere 2 years ago
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a small hole is normal when a 757 hits reinforced concrete (it was not crashing into glass). most of the wreckage outside the pentagon has been taken as evidence by the time u see this report. 100s of people saw the plane hit and i was one of them.the reporter was simply saying the crash was so severe, most of the plane had blown into 1000s pieces and no big visible parts remained...i saw the plane hit, so did 100s others, discussion closed
jamestampere 2 years ago
actually a small hole is very uncommon in a 757 crash dear....do some research. they even crashed a 757 into a vacant building in the same alleged manner of the pentagon incident. and the results were nowhere near the same!
spanky071908 2 years ago
you're wrong.
jamestampere 2 years ago
prove it....oh wait I already proved you wrong...oh well....you'll get over it ...have a nice day
spanky071908 2 years ago
you have not proved anything...
jamestampere 2 years ago
I've proved more than you just by using my brain and watching the videos with my eyes open...instead of watching them eyes wide shut with the government's voice in my ear like you obviously do...A man was there with his camera at the scene...5 minutes after it happened...no wreckage....and all the jet fuel would have exploded like crazy like it usually does in these type of crashes...explain that!
spanky071908 2 years ago 6
you're talking nonsense. I can not be bothered discussing anything you have said...you're wrong and that's final...
jamestampere 2 years ago
Its good to see ambulan ces puting out fires.
jamessomying 1 year ago
@spanky071908 How were all the people killed at the pentagon actually identified when the official statement at the time was the fuel burned so hot it melted the titanium engines? I love my country but i hate my goverment
MeatPuppetiThinkSo 9 months ago
911 is the greatest HOAX in history. When are Amerian people going to rise up and demand a proper independent investigation - arrests, trial, and sentencing?
goldstead 2 years ago
theres NO WAY that hole was made by a plane.
tearlach45 2 years ago
sorry friend, that hole was made by a plane. i saw the jet hit the pentagon. i was leaving a metro station in crystal city which is right next to the pentagon and 300 other people saw it too,if u check the video from the car park, the tail of an aa jet can clearly be seen behind the concrete pillar. if u think about it , the damage seen in this video is exactly the damage u weould expect to see if a jet hit reinforced concrete.
jamestampere 2 years ago
I admit that the movie Loose Change had many mistakes in it. But one which was not a mistake was when a greek passanger plane hit the side of a cliff, which is probably more reinforced naturally than the pentagon. From the wreckage there was a tail, wings, engines and massive pieces of the main body of the plane, including bodies still strapped to their seats! How is it possible that there was almost no plane wreckage from the pentagon??
tearlach45 2 years ago
there was LOADS of plane wreckage at the pentagon. it was oll over the lawn and inside the hole. go to flight 77 case study and it shows you the wreckage.
jamestampere 2 years ago
I have seen it! There is wreckage, but hardly anything at all, not enough wreckage for it to have been Flight 77. Any they already proved that the piece of engine they found was not the same type of engines used on B-757. There is also a perfectly round hole at the end of the wall which was supposedly caused by the nose of the plane. Its impossible for the nose of a plane to create a perfect hole like that because every time the nose of the plane is completely destroyed.
tearlach45 2 years ago
the wreckage found was from an american airlines jet. the engine came from a 757..anything you have heard claiming otherwise is false..the round hole was caused by the landing gear as it shot forward in the impact (the landing gear was found)..all of the passengers were identified by dna at the crash site (except 4)...oh, and did i forget to mention, i saw the american airlines jet hit the pentagon from outside a metro station in crystal city
jamestampere 2 years ago
no you didn't
sirinferno 2 years ago 2
yes i did
jamestampere 2 years ago
Cock gobbler!
arisuta2 1 year ago
you sure are...
jamestampere 1 year ago
Hmmm, no the wife and I are perfectly happy being heterosexual. You debunkers and bankster/politico apologists are the ones swallowing everything and anything that the Powers That Be squirt out their various orifices. I bet you are even grateful.
Fucking idiots!
arisuta2 1 year ago
no, you're a moron.
jamestampere 1 year ago
Oooh, nasty name calling. Away and shite ye daft fuckwit asshole. Do some research or even just open your eyes to all the crap before and after 9/11 and you might get promotion from sheeple first class to human being, or do you prefer to be a 'PERSON' as it appears on all your personal ID?
Been fleeced lately?
arisuta2 1 year ago
you're clearly very very stupid indeed.....
jamestampere 1 year ago
And you are clearly just a daft cunt. Away and shite!
arisuta2 1 year ago
you're illiterate, you're a moron. Go away.
The things you believe are just so stupid. You believe, that on september 11th 2001, in one of the busiest cities in the world, in a city with more journalists and tv cameras than anywhere, it would actually be possible for a government to claim a 757 hit a government building when in fact it did not? you actually believe it was not a plane, when 200 plus people saw it, the the rush hour?!!!! You silly silly man...go away..
jamestampere 1 year ago
@jamestampedherfootandranaway, and you are a total wanker. I didn't say that. Obviously something fairly major hit that building, we just don't know for certain what it was. Like most fuckwitted retard debunkers you inflate every number relating to 911, 136 witnesses suddenly becomes 200. What did they see? None are certain except for shils such as Tim Timmerman who was certain it was a 757 even when such an ID would have been impossible.
You silly, silly cockgobbler, go fuck yourself!
arisuta2 1 year ago
@arisuta (codename for the dumbest twat on the planet). If you think for one second that we do not know for certain what hit the pentagon you're even more stupid than I thought. I have not inflated anything.There were in excess of 200 people who confirmed seeing a 757 hit the pentagon, I have actually rounded the figure down to 200 because you're probably to stupid to understand basic numeration.All but 3 or 4 out of about 220 confirmed it was a plane (the ones who did not confirm this
jamestampere 1 year ago
janestampedherfootandranaway, hmmm. cockgobbler still has access to a keyboard, what a nice facility they have it penned up in. No, we don't know for certain what hit the Pentagon because all decent footage of the event has been withheld by the powers that be and we have only you debunker twats' word for it that the fucking thing was a 757, a magic 757 with folding in wings that could punch through a concrete wall but whose heavy, dense engines couldn't, and the phrase is 'TOO stupid" cocksucker
arisuta2 1 year ago
only failed to confirm it was a plane because they heard the blast from the other side of the building and did not see the plane hit). Your statement that "we don't know for certain what it was" is too stupid to disprove and it is not worthy of anyone with any sense discussing. Cockgobbler?? why all the gay references? You obviously think about homosexuality all the time. You're obviously gay yourself, you're the one going on about it, not that it bothers me...
jamestampere 1 year ago
Duh, who is spouting shite? If they failed to confirm because they were on the OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING, then they aren't fucking eye witnesses, are they you fucking moron?
The gay references are nothing to do with me, you bring them upon yourselves because you are so gay in your automatic swallowing and bending over and taking everything that the fucking Powers That Be shove in you, you dumb asshole.
Fuck off and die you utter shithead.
arisuta2 1 year ago
everything you say proves ur fucking thick useless piece of shit. oh, you found a typo, well done, at least you're not blind as well as retarded. Folding wings?? what are you on about?? you expect a plane to punch a cartoon cut out of itself when it hits concrete at 480 plus mph (the engines could not?? again, what are you on about, the engines where found inside the crash hole). The other side of the building? proves they are not eyewitnesses?? you don't say! you totally missed the point...
jamestampere 1 year ago
janestampsherfootandrunsaway, everything you say proves ur fucking thick useless piece of shil shit. How long have you worked for the Powers That Be? Folding wings is a witness statement by another paid shil who said that's what he saw. Mocked and reviled endlessly ever since. After looking at the WTC, yes I expect an aircraft to at least leave an approximation of its image on the exterior of any building, even a reinforced one. You totally missed the point on top of your head, Scouse cockjockey
arisuta2 1 year ago
sorry, but you're stupid/ and or making yourself look stupid. If you expect an aircraft to leave an approximation of it's image on the exterior of a building made from reinforced concrete, you know nothing of the subject of which you speak(you're talking crap anyway). If you think just because there was a large gap left in each WTC tower, that there should be an equal gap in the side of the pentagon, you know nothing. Educate yourself about material physics and you will learn this.
jamestampere 1 year ago
janestampsherfootandrunsaway, sorry, but you're stupid/ and or making yourself look stupid. I didn't say that it should leave an exact image but at least the engines should have ploughed straight through the wal,l if we are meant to believe that the much less dense fuselage did so. Educate yourself about government lies, black ops, false flag ops and lying and thieving and you might start to realise that all in the garden is not rosy.
arisuta2 1 year ago
you're wrong again. The engines did plough through the wall, they were found in the crash hole (one of them was, the other was found just outside), so you're totally clueless about the whole thing. What everyone writes to some extent is a reflection of something inside them, so you obviously have homosexual thoughts. I never brought it up, you did. I do not care if you're gay, but please don't put it on me by going on about it all the time.
jamestampere 1 year ago
janestampsherfootandrunsaway, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's what we are told ad nauseam by you official conspiracy theory lovers. SHow me some photos of the deceased passengers, their luggage and maybe then I'll start to believe that it really was flight 77 and not another of those pod fitted special aircraft that hit the WTC. Until then fuck off ya daft wee turd.
arisuta2 1 year ago
you actually think there were pods attached to flight 175 and flight 11?? You stupid twat. Bodies of passengers?? You can find them if you put your mind to it...i'm sure even you could do it.
jamestampere 1 year ago
I've seen something under those planes, I guess they don't show up when you're wearing your government issued rose tinted glasses you piece of shit shil asshole. I have looked for pictures of passenger bodies to try and make some sense of this whole thing and came up with deceased Pentagon workers. If you have some better images, make yourself a debunkernut hero by posting a link on here and you will be the toast of the debunkernut shil scum bag asshole crowd, (quite a privilege........NOT!)
arisuta2 1 year ago
you have seen nothing under those planes you dope. you think you can see something, but all you see is the normal belly of a 757. Idiots have made wasters like you believe that the belly of a 757 looks different to what was photographed on 9/11, but this is not the case.There is nothing at all under those planes, it is not my job to explain why, go and find out for yourself why you're wrong. Images of passengers (strapped in seats) from flight 77(burnt/ dead of course) are available.
jamestampere 1 year ago
@jamestampere, you sound like Barbara Bush repeating herself repeatedly on TV while maintaining an unblinking, hypnotic stare at the camera and stating that everyone is waking up to a safer, better world because George Bush is president. Keep repeating your pathetic drivel and eventually even a shil like you might start to really believe it. Please provide a link to the images you say are out there, other debunkernuts have failed in the task when challenged.
Waiting.......
arisuta2 1 year ago
Janestampears, I didn't say that. The planes that struck the towers OBVIOUSLY had something atached. The original planes couldn't have as it would have been seen. The planes were diverted and replacements struck the towers. They were remotely controlled, hence the pods. Look up the technology, made by an Israeli company.
arisuta2 1 year ago
you actually believe replacement planes hit the towers??? that's too silly to even discuss. Sorry. Flight 11 and flight 175 hit the towers and there was nothing attached to either plane. The belly of the planes are normal for a AA and United airlines 757. There was NOTHING attached to any plane that hit the twin towers. Please explain what you think was attached? I am telling you there was nothing. The images of pentagon wreckage and passengers is available, why can't you find it?
jamestampere 1 year ago
Wow m8 , how many way's do you want it ? the crash melted all the seats , the 6 ton engiens , tail n wings , leaving the 1st floor pent windows and roof intackt , knocking down street lights and destroing cars without touchimg the lawn , andthere are bodies ? when engiens melt to nothing in 6 mins ?
too silly to even discuss ! Hollywood CIA
Arisuta2 has pointed out what we all seen , and tv pundits commented on !
you are an ammusment , going against your own eyes to post conjecture n pish !
krs306 1 year ago
@ krs306 : you're wrong in everything you say..
jamestampere 1 year ago
No, it isn't it is a strong possibility, especially as the planes overflew an airbase on their route and could have been swapped there. The pods attached are part of a remote guidance system marketed by an Israeli firm. Yeah, lots of wreckage and dead people pictures, I just don't think Hani Banani Hanjour, the hanky panky king was involved, he sould barely taxi a plane never mind all that fancy flying to hit the emptiest part of the Pentagram.
arisuta2 1 year ago
no planes were swapped. this is insane. that means all the passengers were in on the plot, or were murdered while empty planes were used....!! i could go on but this is too stupid to talk about really. There was NOTHING attached to any plane. This has been proven. The photos of the underbelly of each plane claiming to show something have been totally discredited. All you see is a normal 757. How do you know how hard it is to fly into the side of the pentagon?
jamestampere 1 year ago
Eeee Rrrrr b8 kalm down , kalm down laaarrrrr Aye
iv seen a vid with Hanjour's Flight instructor , He says hsj was pish , and would'nt let him solo !
They fuked over 2,800 of there own , do you think 30ish 100ish more will worry them , we arnt talking about the local polis who feels a bit of guilt after dowin ye in a cell , these cunts think its all there's to run ,That means you Larr , the moves the so called planes pulled of are Hollywood
r u reay to find out the truth ?
gez a buzz
krs306 1 year ago
i can't be bothered getting into this..
not being dismissive, but you're wrong on this one..really...;-)
jamestampere 1 year ago
Correct Jane, the planes COULD have been swapped and the passengers would have been murdered. The pilots and passengers would have no control of the plane as it was remotely flown where it was wanted to go.
arisuta2 1 year ago
you're wrong iris, the planes could NOT have been swapped. This theory is insane. Full stop. Next, re your comments about the Pentagon, the normal thing to do would be to circle the building as he did, and fly into the side. It is not difficult to realise why. Have a think about it. Crashing across the roof would have been no different than hitting the side (again research it) and diving into the pentagon would have been stupid (again think about it). He did the normal thing.
jamestampere 1 year ago
Thought about it Jane &it still makes absolutely no sense unless the person controlling the plane was well aware that no intercept was on its way & that they really wanted to hit that particular section and not Rummy's office which was on the direct flight path. If these guys were meant to have done their homework and lots of training, they would know where every vital or high level target was in the building. Taking out the newly reinforced and lightly manned area makes NO SENSE! Just like you.
arisuta2 1 year ago
as if he knew where Rumsfeld's office was!!! Just listen to yourself! You're wrong. Read about it, given his approach to the pentagon, the mechanics of flying a plane suggest he hit in the exact place you would expect him to (to circle the building, line up and then hit. It would have been nearly impossible to dive into the pentagon or to hit the other side (it is not my job to explain why, go and research it)
jamestampere 1 year ago
Well, since it is possible to have guided tours of the buuilding and probably possible to get rough plans of it, certainly before 911, I guess these SUPERBLY REPARED SUICIDE ATTCKERS could have worked it all out. Wasn't the agenda on the day though, was it, whoever did this wanted minimum casualties and damage, so the emptiest and best reincforced part was deliberately targeted.
arisuta2 1 year ago
just because you get get guided tours does not mean you would know were a certain office is. Yes, you're quite right. The people who did this wanted minimum casualties. If it was a conspiracy by someone other than al queda then the same people must have been involved in New York, yes quite right, minimum casualties, that is why they crashed 2 jets into the WTC killing over 3500 people (minimum casualties??) (and they could have killed many more if the towers came down faster).ur theory is silly
jamestampere 1 year ago
does it not occur to you, that it may simply have been too difficult to crash the plane into the other side of the building. The plane's descent meant they had to crash it into the side they did. It is really not as complicated as u think, if u think about it, it is really quite obvious why they circled the pentagon and lined up before hitting it. You just do not understand...
jamestampere 1 year ago
James! So good to see you back still working for the government? You know I have your email where you admit you do! Come come stop spreading government lies. NO PLANE WAS EVER EXAMINED under the direct orders of the FBI. All reports were to the damage to the pentagon and NOT the plane, who throws away the plane and investigates the building it slammed into? The BPS report was a vague account of the attack with UNSUPPORTIVE quantitive details it also offset the c-ring punch-out hole by 4 feet!
caz240 1 year ago
you're wrong again. the plane was never thrown away.a plane wreck was examined at the pentagon.all details were totally in line with a plane crashing at the pentagon, nothing else.
jamestampere 1 year ago
Was the plane rebuilt as much as possible as is doen in every other plane crash? Is there a hanger somewhere with a partially reconstructed flight 77 inside it? Don't think so Mr. Government shil. It could well have been flight 77 that slammed into the Pentangle but if it was then it was being remotely controlled. Research it, it's perfectly possible. (oh, sorry, I forgot, you don't have to research, you just have to ask your handler or check the REAL official story in your handbook)
arisuta2 1 year ago
I repeat NO PLANE WAS EVER EXAMINED FACT! All investigations were restricted to damage to the pentagon ONLY! The ASCE later called the BPS report was sadly lacking. The NTSB was overseen by the FBI and do not nor ever have issued a report about flight 77. They said (Quote) "they do not plan to issue a report or open a public docket" The official Purdue simulation of flight77 doesn't account 4 the facade walls, the second floor slab or columns and neglected 2 include the engines 4 the jetliner!
caz240 1 year ago
@caz240 A PLANE WAS EXAMINED. All investigations were related to the PLANE and the building. The engines were found at the crash site. I am not continuing to discuss this with you again.
jamestampere 1 year ago
U will not discuss it because U cannot answer the FACTS I present. the smell of cordite was in the air did U smell it U say U were there? Other witnesses smelt it & this is a strong indicator explosives were used. The area of the pentagon "hit" was the only part singled out for "special maintenance". Witnesses heard 2 explosions & yet we are still 2 receive any footage showing a 747. We are expected 2 believe that titanium & steel evaporated yet fingerprints were taken from the bodies retrieved.
caz240 1 year ago
you're wrong. I am not discussing it anymore.
jamestampere 1 year ago
If you are not discussing it anymore james kindly refrain from posting official LIES!
3000 people were murdered on that day have some respect
caz240 1 year ago
of course caz means a 757. How did Tim(I'm a tit)Timmerman manage to absolutely identify it as a 757 as it sped past when it COULD have been either a 767 or an Airbus which are almost identical at that speed? The big picture tells the truth of the situation. Warnings were given by agencies around the world, the FBI were tracking the suspects but were stood down, Dubya needed a good excuse to invade Iraq as Saddam had resisted the Financial hitmen and the Jackals, etc. etc. The truth will out!
arisuta2 1 year ago
you're wrong. the one showing a lack of respect is yourself, with your baseless ideas. I refuse to discuss the matter any more with you..
jamestampere 1 year ago
My "baseless ideas" as you call them are from OFFICIAL reports, OFFICIAL documents presented as EVIDENCE to the 911 commission, testimony given in person to the 911 commission and from the 911 commission report THE OFFICIAL PUBLISHED RECORD of the events surrounding 911; dammed by their own evidence and NOT my ideas. 911 was most certainly a military operation designed to create fear to gain public backing to go to war with a country that had absolutely NOTHING to do with Osama Bin Laden or 911!
caz240 1 year ago
you're wrong.Your ideas are baseless. They are not from official reports.I refuse to discuss it with you, it's pointless.
jamestampere 1 year ago
The 503 first responder eye witnesses who testifed about bombs in the buildings, how they were given prior information WTC7 building was being brought down in a "controlled manner" when did they have time 2 survey WTC7 in order 2 plant the explosives 2 bring it down in a controlled way? It takes months 2 survey a building 4 demolition yet they want us 2 believe they did it on 911. You & I both know the murders still go on silencing those who dare 2 speak out about what happened 2 them on 911.
caz240 1 year ago
There were no bombs in buildings. Anyone who said so is mistaken or is taken out of context. No building was brought down in a controlled explosion. The discussion is over, I told you.
jamestampere 1 year ago
@jamestampere I feel so assured. jamestamere has spoken!
Yulisag 1 year ago
@Yulisag I am glad you agree..
jamestampere 1 year ago
@jamestampere sarcasm squared. nice doing multiplication with ya..... cubed now
Yulisag 1 year ago
@Yulisag come again?
jamestampere 1 year ago
How do you know how well Hanjour could fly? How do you know what the flight school teacher said about him is true? (That he could not fly well) Maybe conspiracy theory people are making it up? If he did say he could not fly well, maybe Hanjour was faking being a bad pilot so he could not be suspected of something spectacular? How do you know he was already not an expert pilot before he even came to the USA?? Etc etc etc etc etc etc etc....
jamestampere 1 year ago
Jane, now you are reaching, what if, what if, what if? What if he was an ace pilot who knew exactly what he was doing, why the FUCK would he fly all the way around the building to hit that exact spot? No good reason. I reckon the best plan of attack for a nutter would be to crash the plane across the rooftops of the building and thus scatter burning fuel and debris over as large an area of the building as possible. That's what a REAL terrorist would have done, not a false flag op.
arisuta2 1 year ago
P.S. Nothing wrong with my wife, totally gorgeous sexy lass, your displeasure at being called a homosexual is very telling however, a bit too close to home I guess. Cottaging much?
arisuta2 1 year ago
anyone who makes a point about sexuality (as you did) when it has no relevance to the discussion, is clearly insecure. you frequently talk about being gay etc, which clearly means this is on your mind. I never voiced any displeasure at being called gay because 1- i know i am not and 2- i don't care what you say. I just pointed out that you have demonstrated evidence of being gay yourself by going on about it all the time. Cottaging? see, you're at it again. You obviously do it or why else say it
jamestampere 1 year ago
Nah, ya daft wee twat, I don't give a flying fuck what your stupid wee amateur psych evaluation tells you about my posts, they are simply insults, no reflection on what I really think or feel, (except contempt for you). Never mind, it will soon be time for you to eat Big Bob's cock-meat sandwich and then you can lose yourself in the moment.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
DOUCHE!
arisuta2 1 year ago
i was simply saying that out of the 220 or so witnesses , only 3(who were on the other side of the pentagon) did not confirm it was a plane, this was obviously because they could not see it. The fact is, 215 minimum confirmed it was a 757. Somehow you're so stupid you missed this point too. The gay references are to do with you, as you are the one making them over and over you silly little prick. Maybe your wife can help you with this (or maybe she's the problem? who knows). don't involve me!
jamestampere 1 year ago
janestampsherfootandrunsaway, How about the witnesses who saw the plane fly on a flightpath to the north of the gas station which would preclude it knocking down the light poles? How about the massive concussive blast accompanied by the smell of explosives that coincided with the impact? There are alot more questions raised by witness testimony than are answered by it. 215 people couldn't possibly confirm it as a257 as it is almost identical in flight to 767s and Aibus jets. It was a large jet.
arisuta2 1 year ago
@jamestampere YOU SAW NO PLANE!!!!
Enferushostis 1 year ago
@jamestampere If you believe that was an AA plane....then I suggest you read the Operation Northwood papers!!!
TexasRose50 1 year ago
twoofers are oh so smrt, you have succesfully deciphered the mass media matrix of lies, congrats you get you scooby doo decoder ring
911 truth is a conn job on the intellectually inept
mattfactsof911 2 years ago
lol, 1:43 ,FBI Teenies??
what a joke.....
thedayitriedtodie 2 years ago
wow! lots of the debrees from the plane! (not)
i wonder how that hotel across the road didn't collapse 5 yrs later....
9/11=inside job
thedayitriedtodie 2 years ago
it was a stealth bomber .. ive seen in other video...
pentagon is very secure airspace but what happended , there is not security because they themselves know about it...
artshop1321 2 years ago
"Why they not know about this, Anger & Pressure for America to react, We will not distinguish the terrorist Iraq & Iran, Catastrophic failure for the Intelligence, etc". Hear all the plotted mainstream Media with the astonishing words, Evidence is everywhere yet the people have NO power except the Gov and the FED. Advantages of Denials. ROTHSCHILD DYNASTY
yzhaf 2 years ago
There was a story of that section of the Pentagon being closed for renovation?? prior to 911!!!
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humanumgenus 2 years ago
Just because there are a million half-baked theories, it doesn't mean we are told the truth. There are simply too many holes. For one, why would terrorists spend years planning this and not claim responsiblity. Even a single suicide bomber makes a video. Why hasn't one single piece of evidence linking this to Bin Laden been found/or shown...Oh yeah they found a passport in the rubble!The answer is simple. They had nothing to do with it.
rogan71 2 years ago 3
Wo sin die Flugzeugteile ? Bitte hilft mir.
z2000afer 2 years ago 2
The "most secure" place on earth? Where are the camera's? Where are the video's from these camera's? Something isn't right here!
gogosDancingShoes 3 years ago 13
There are 86 cameras trained on this building, including in businesses in the area and the FBI confiscated every one of them. If there is nothing to hide, then show them all! The place just got hit and they already know who did it?!
pask54 2 years ago 3
theyve released 4 but you cant see an aeroplane in any of them. If they wanted to get the US Citizens to start trusting the government again, all they have to do is release the other 80 videos
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InhabitBand 3 years ago
Thousands of innocents died for state sponsored terrorism this day, may they R.I.P.
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JewFor911Truth 3 years ago 14
ITs a simple question folks. Where is the plane wreckage? Obviously one would think with such a horrific crash we would see one piece of wreckage on this video. Or are you guys saying that the entire plane is inside the pentagon?
tovarco 3 years ago 3
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Twoofahs use the "reverse scientific method"... they decide what happened, and then throw out all evidence, data & science that doesn't fit their "theories," and then hail their fantasy as the only possible conclusion.
What is amusing is watching them invent theories, stampede in a herd to support that theory with religious zeal. And then when that theory is demonstrated insane (holographic planes? directed energy weapons?), the herd stampedes to the next silly theory.
conotoxin 3 years ago
really, don't see any wreckage, fuselage or whatsoever
namsook 3 years ago
namsook - Then you are blind.
Google pentagon wreckage. Hundreds of photos of plane wreckage, luggage, etc.
And when you come back and say "it was all planted" then you are stupid.
conotoxin 3 years ago
TOXIN YOU MISS THE POINT. Why would we need to look at photos from somewhere else. This is a freaking video of the seen. Are you telling us that almost every piece of this plane ( millions of parts) is inside the pentagon and not scattered on the lawn here?
tovarco 3 years ago 5
Twoofahs use the "reverse scientific method"... they decide what happened, and then throw out all evidence, data & science that doesn't fit their "theories," and then hail their fantasy as the only possible conclusion.
What is amusing is watching them invent theories, stampede in a herd to support that theory with religious zeal. And then when that theory is demonstrated insane (holographic planes? directed energy weapons?), the herd stampedes to the next silly theory.
conotoxin 3 years ago
So where is all the wreckage. I dont get it.
tovarco 3 years ago 3
Google pentagon wreckage. Hundreds of photos of plane wreckage, luggage, etc.
Even a twoofah can see.
conotoxin 3 years ago
if only the whole pentagon went down like a stadium demolition, one hit in the corner and down it would go like a ring of dominos..."Jet fuel melted the steel structure"...lack of maintenance on fireproofing" how fun that would have been to eat popcorn to (Pah)
afrogeezer 3 years ago
Just listening to these comments the US Military Might, well if we are to believe that this was carried out by terrorists one of the a military might was caught with its pants down, so much for all the intelligence bla bla bla.Inside job i definitely thinks so. There is far too much in the public domain which states this was an orchestrated attack by a large number of people, and certainly not the terrorists themselves.Bin Laden claimed a victory to which was never his in the first place.
yawroc 3 years ago
There was a cospiracy to go to war in Iraq for sure. Anyone who had been looking at Saddam was aware of the fact that he was defeated and humble.But he gots the oil. The anti war movement was hijacked by republicans and led into obscurity by the likes of right wing nutters like Alex Jones. America's fear of the unions and other rights groups has left it unable to look for answers from the traditional sources. Even your radicals are CIA plants and rabbid neo nazis now.
marsCubed 3 years ago
Where's the bloody plane?
MustacheVerra 3 years ago
Gee I wonder why the pentagon didnt collapse like the twin towers'
scochirice01 3 years ago
Gee i wonder how that could possibly be possible considering it fel to the ground and the underground areas are away from the impact zone. So there was nothing more to collapse.
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MKIVWWI 3 years ago
Twoofahs use the "reverse scientific method"... they decide what happened, and then throw out all evidence, data & science that doesn't fit their "theories," and then hail their fantasy as the only possible conclusion.
What is amusing is watching them invent theories, stampede in a herd to support that theory with religious zeal. And then when that theory is demonstrated insane (holographic planes? directed energy weapons?), the herd stampedes to the next silly theory.
conotoxin 3 years ago
Its not that easy to figure out every detail of such an elaborate
event. At least people are trying to figure out how this happened, smartass. People like you are so STUPID to accept
the first explanation the media gives the SAME DAY IT
HAPPENED. Your one of the sheeple.
regread5 3 years ago
lol look the film ZEITGEIST bye google.
evrybody cry and say fuck terrorist but nobody see the truth.
Bush cia and his goverment does to prevaricate.
don´t be so addlebrained US
mikail1811 3 years ago
one book you all should buy or download is called "Propaganda" it was written in 1928 by Edward Bernays nephew of Sigmund Freud. anyway its the model the Nazi party and the corrpt groups in the US govt use to maipulate the masses by use of propaganda
DEMONICSLOTHINDEED 3 years ago
I'd like to see a follow up on the families of the victims. There is too much stuff that doesn't make any sense at all. We all can see the cover ups here and there. Who can catch those responsible? It's getting embarrasing to be called an American these days, because the world is thinking they are all stupid.
mbrouss151 3 years ago
theres floors under the pentagon?how many
kingfaze19 3 years ago
Air to ground missile
salotch 3 years ago
air to air brain
rothschad 3 years ago
How completely do they fool you? Just Google any of these and Matt Marriott
Lottery
ISS
BECAUSE the TRUTH is NEVER TOO HORRIBLE, even if YOU, the sheep, realize it only INSIDE the slaughterhouse.
9/11 FULL STORY was exposed worldwide first long ago.
From TV Fakery (no planes) to mini H bombs upwards directed, how Barbara Olson was murdered immediately after Massood, how Lisa Beamer was fooled, why the Pentagon and WTC7 were in the script, etc.
Google:
9/11 for dummies Matt Marriott
Truth666 3 years ago
cruise missle strike
strangerx1 3 years ago
where is the plane debris
jnyc2007 3 years ago
please reply
Kyl314 3 years ago
look at 2:03 - 2:07...there are dark regions - burning - far from the impact, and right by impact there are no such dark regions, so - there were no fire right at impact place??you gotta be kidding!!oh, and a Pearl Harbor - no shit, and take a look at zeitgeist and you'll see that america planned the attack on pearl harbor.
ast3rik 3 years ago 3
Those in the White House who planned these attacks and forged the Pentagon videos, and forged the story about an airliner, they must be braught to justice even if later in history. Their memories will be cursed.
curvysarah 3 years ago
how could it have gotten through america's intelligence systems?
simple, because the government planned it.
makes me sick.
ari3l11 3 years ago
have you seen zeitgeist?
nicothespartan182 3 years ago
i've heard a little about it.
but i don't know what it is really.
ari3l11 3 years ago
in that movie it explains how the whole event happend
nicothespartan182 3 years ago