lols to the trinitarian arguing with the other guy. Bottom line is both denominations believe in the new pact we have with Jesus Christ and the price he paid. Both see powerful movements of the Lord. I am a oneness but would never say that any other denomination was a cult or a heretic. How is that ever our place...and duh pamphlets are gunna tell u what the writer belives. The word of God is a mirror when a woman reads it and sees that she should cover her head and not wear what pertains...
to a man and worship with propriety and modesty. it is up to the word of God to change a heart not man and not a pamphlet rebuking another denomination. I know oneness' aren't the only ones going to heaven but to say that we're not and yall are isn't biblical either. To say who goes up and who goes down is to bring God down. That's Biblical. Cool vid!
you guys need to shut up. just follow your own religion & we'll follow ours. the velo wont get you into heaven. just whatch the frickin video & enjoy it! ignorant punks.
Praise Him That Sits On The Thone~Jesus Christ!What a shame,of the remarks that don't edify on something that was meant 4good.Sac Apostolic Church:"May U all be blessed.For not being ashamed 2 take the time 2 share the truth."Heavenly Father In The Name Of Jesus, Bless This Video and Those Who Watch it &may it do exactly what it was intended to do~ Educate and Bless. In The Precious Name Of Jesus Love,Sis. Terri
Lord let this person get their facts straight. I didn't read any where, where it reads I condemned them to hell.Just maybe their their own heart they know right now they are walking in the wrong direction. And by the way, you want to be able to correct follow my God and go in the right direction. God Bless Your Enemies
I can't believe you guys are still discussing this issue. It seems like the veil is around your eyes instead of your head. And this video is the reason mainstream Christians consider Apostolic Pentecostals a cult. The veil and skirt wearing only makes you seem more outlandish.
Why can't you grow up and understand the veil and skirt-wearing is not biblical? Its a misinterpretation of scripture.
Oh my goodness do you know that not all roads lead to Heaven!! I only read 2 lines of what you wrote and all I have to say is "In the Name Of Jesus Dear Heavenly Father Open The Eyes, Heart, of The One Who Wrote This and let them come to the real truth! Don't let it Be To Late That He/She would have true salvation. I pray this In Jesus Name. Blessings & Understanding to All ~ Sister Terri from Reedley
The fact that you only "read 2 lines of what I wrote" shows how ignorant you are. And how dare you put yourself in the position of judging who is going to be saved and who isn't. I've got news for you: SAC is not the only church going to heaven. If that's what you believe then you are a cult and YOU need spritual guidance. That's exactly what you are for judging and taking God's place as a judge.
And by the way, if you would like to debate the use of the veil from a theological and biblical perspective I would be more than glad to do so. People like you need some serious enlightenment!
I agree with comment posted by ngarcia2. In the bible it says that people perish for the lack of knowledge. Nowhere in the sister velo video was the name of Jesus mentioned. Sharing the good news about Jesus' love and his salvation is more important than a piece of cloth. The world needs Him more than man's doctrine. My advice to you is to get in the word daily and ask the Holy Spirit to show you the truth instead of taking a preacher's word for it.
I cannot believe Apostolic 'RELIGION' still wear their 'VELOS'.The veil is not going to save you. I was born and raised in the Apostolic Church and I I know what it says on Corinth.11-21.But you got to look at it Spiritualy not by flesh. Sis velo, your covering is your husband and your husdand's covering is Christ. If your not married, your covering is your Pastor,and your Pastor's covering is Christ.
Very Funny!!! But there's really no point in u guys wearing velos if ur just gonna wear them on the backs of ur head. Oh and also it's stupid that sis. velo has a whole bunch of white velos since u guys just wear tiny black see-through velos on the very backs of ur heads!!! God Bless!!!
Emily, the viel is used ONLY by oneness pentecostals, who have been classified as a cult/sect by every major Christian group/organization. It's nothing more than a tradition born out of biblical misinterpretation.
Dude, when you say "every major Christian group/organization" has classified them as a cult, you gotta say who. So the Baptist, Methodist, Salvation Army, Red Cross, Episcopalians, etc... all have said this? Where is the official press release? I grew up wit this stuff and even though i am still finding out my spiritual identity and questioning the existence of GOD, let them be. If there is a GOD,it will judge accordinlly.
According to the Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, Oneness Pentecostals had been classified as heretical in 1915-1917, when they were expelled from the Assemblies of God for denying the Trinity doctrine. Current publications from various Oneness groups, including the UPC, indicate that Oneness adherents vehemently continue to reject the historic, orthodox view of the Godhead.
So you are telling me a Pentecostal dictionary says the Oneness Pentecostals have been classified as heretical? Thats the thing about Protestantism, if you dont agree you break off and form a new branch of it. And of course, when you break off from another branch, you usually get named heretical/etc... So basically a branch of PROTESTANTISM(Pentecostalism) is calling another group
that broke off a heretical sect/cult? Come on, that happens all the time with METHODIST, BAPTIST, even among Pentecostal churchs. The UPC is not the final authority of PENTECOSTALISM! Christianity was a form a Jewish Sect. When you use words like "SECT" or "CULT", people have the stereotypical view of something negative. If you look up the words, it can be implied as positive or negative. So I take it your are looking at the ONENESS MOVEMENT as a NEGATIVE.
You are looking from the lenses of a PENTECOSTAL member from the sources you stated. Another thing about breaking off due to DOCTRINAL VIEWS, didn't the CATHOLIC CHURCH and ORTHODOX CHURCH split from each other in the 11th century due to a single subject? ( I believe it was in regards to the HOLY SPIRIT). So one thing is the difference from one and the other.
Your logic makes no sense. First of all, Pentecostals would not classify themselves as "heretical"--if anything they want to AVOID that classification because it is stigmatizing. It is not Pentecostal, but TRINITARIAN theologians that make this classification. Secondly, I realize the fact that there are many branches of Christianity (Methodist, Lutheran, Baptists, etc...) however they all share one thing in common--the orthodox doctrine of the TRINITY....
...Since ONENESS Pentecostals have denied the trinity (as do the Jehova Witnesses) they have been classified as a cult (or heretical).
By the way, I noticed in your comments you made no distinction between Pentecostals and ONENESS Pentecostals. There's a huge difference. There are ONENESS Pentecostals and then there are TRINITARIAN Pentecostals--I'm a Trinitarian Pentecostal myself :)
So you are telling me that "TRINITARIAN THEOLOGIANS" have classified the "Oneness Pentecostals/Evangelicals" as heretical? So Southern Medthodist call Northern Medthodist hereticals. Baptist call Southern Baptist heretical. Orthodox Jews call Reform Jews heretical.ETC.....!!!!! What you are saying is OBVIOUS. ONE GROUP CALLS ANOTHER HERETICAL/CULT. Why would "Oneness Pentecostals" care what Trinitarian THEOLOGIANS say??? Dude, you are trying to argue a DOCTRINAL and THEOLOGICAL debate.
So you are telling me that "TRINITARIAN THEOLOGIANS" have classified the "Oneness Pentecostals/Evangelicals" as heretical? So Southern Medthodist call Northern Medthodist hereticals. Baptist call Southern Baptist heretical. Orthodox Jews call Reform Jews heretical.ETC.....!!!!! What you are saying is OBVIOUS. ONE GROUP CALLS ANOTHER HERETICAL/CULT. Why would "Oneness Pentecostals" care what Trinitarian THEOLOGIANS say??? Dude, you are trying to argue a DOCTRINAL and THEOLOGICAL debate
Another thing you say is that all major faiths have the share the TRINITY DOCTRINE. SO WHAT!!!! You share that but what about other DOCRINAL VIEWS??? DIVINITY OF JESUS, ROLE OF WOMEN IN THE CHURCH, JAMEST CHRISTIANITY vs. PAULINIST CHRISTIANITY, ETC... Third, yeah there are different PENTECOSTAL groups, majority are TRINITARIAN but some are not. Different organizations also follow the ONENESS. I believe that this video shows APOSTOLIC members. They wouldnt even consider themselves PENTECOSTAL.
You close by saying about which group you belong. To me, that was obvious from 1st comment. You are looking at a group that broke off from your ORGANIZATION (TRINITARIAN PENTECOSTAL) and thus you see them as heretical. Another thing I said that HERETICAL/SECT can be a POSITIVE or NEGATIVE word. Please state how you use those words. Also, I not write in CAPS to yell, rather to state my points of an arguement. I am working on my Master in Religious Studies at a SECULAR SCHOOL.
I dont say this to boost myself but rather to say that if I wanted a certain DOCRTINAL VIEW, i'd go to a theoligical school. I am seeing your point of view from a FAITH based view. Once you involve FAITH based arguments, the arguement goes out the window because its how YOU or YOUR CHURCH see things. People interpret what they read differently.
I close with what I BELIEVE is fundamental with CHRISTIANITY. If there is a GOD, HE wont ask what church you are from or how much you gave. But rather, HE will say if you feed, clothed or healed him. Because what you did to somebody else, you did to HIM. The most important commandments to me are: LOVE YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART and MIND and LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF. If there is a judgement, HE WILL JUDGE WITH PERFECTION AND JUST. LET HIM DECIDE, NOT US!
It is becoming more and more obvious to me that you lack the ability to maintain a logical conversation. I replied with 2 comments and you reply to me with 6 comments! Do you honestly believe that you can win a debate by flooding me with words rather than logic? Please!
By the way, the fact that you are working on your masters means nothing. I'm an undergraduate student at a university and I know plenty of nut job ignoramuses with Doctorate degrees.
Oh well, i'll try to answer all of your brainless comments:
1-I never said that ALL major faiths have to share the trinity doctrine. Bhudism is a major faith yet it doesn't even believe in God.
2-Southern Medthodist may very well call Northern Medthodist hereticals, however they do not classify them as a cult because they both share the doctrine of the trinity. This applies to Luthers, Baptist, Methodist, and all other divisions of Christianity.
3-Oneness Pentecostalism not only is heretical but sectist. Look at any pamphlet in a christian bookstore about cults/sects and you will find Oneness Pentecostals in between Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons.
4-I never established my church as the authority on the classification of Christian sects--I'm asking you to look at the sources. It's as easy as going to a bookstore.
5-Your final comment stated that God is the only one who can judge and I agree with you completely...
1)We are talking about CHRISTIANITY so you said "Secondly, I realize the fact that there are many branches of Christianity (Methodist, Lutheran, Baptists, etc...) however they all share one thing in common--the orthodox doctrine of the TRINITY....". What does "HOWEVER THEY ALL SHARE ONE THING IN COMMON-The Orthodox Doctrine of the TRINITY" mean. You branch the MAJORITY OF ALL CHRISTIAN BRANCHES TOGETHER WITH THAT STATEMENT.
2)I know that N. Methodist wont classify other methodist as cult but they will NOT as cult. In your first comment you said that "Emily, the viel is used ONLY by oneness pentecostals, who have been classified as a cult/sect by every major Christian group/organization". In that statement you say that CULT/SECT are very similar. You need to distinguish both of them if you think they are different.
3)I can go to different bookstores and get dif sources.You want me to visit the bookstores you go to?
4)Who has the final authority on CHRISTIAN SECTS? Again, you want me to get my sources at what bookstores? THEY WILL BE BIASED SOURCES! IF I go to a Luthern Bookstore, i will get a view from a Luthern on DOCRTINE, a METHODIST bookstore= METHODIST VIEW, etc...
5)You state that GOD can only judge, but why do you call somebody else a CULT/SECT. You are judging them with that statement.
Now you will answer my arguements: 1)What is DOCTRINE on the DIVINITY of JESUS. 2) What is the DOCTINE on the leadership role of WOMEN in church( i.e: ministers, pastors, preachers, etc...). 3) What is the DOCTRINE on TONGUES? Finally, YOU NEED TO ANSWER: IS A SECT and CULT differnt or the same? Are they bad or good and according to who? Last, where are you from? What state, city? This will help me better understand your view. Lot of morons with doctorate degrees but more with baseless opinions!
1. The Debate over the divinity of Jesus is way too extensive. You need to ask me a specific question on the divinity and I will be glad to answer.
2. I don't see how the leadership role of women in church is relevant to the topic. There are plenty of oneness churches that allow women to preach behind a pulpit (and have leadership positions) and there are also oneness churches that limit a woman's role in the church to cooking in the kitchen. This isn't relevant to the topic of the oneness.
HAha this is too funny...I keep telling mom that there should be lots of velos stashed in church some where, and pins too for all those ladies that forget their velos.
HAha this is too funny...I keep telling mom that there should be lots of velos stashed in church some where, and pins too for all those ladies that forget their velos.
HAVE NO FEAR, SISTA VELO IS HER!!!
MegaDrummaman 7 months ago
ta chido!!!!!!!!!
SOLO1NOMBRE1 9 months ago
awwww cute loved it
nikue18 11 months ago
hahhaha...this is great!!!! omgosh! I love it!
missionprincess 2 years ago
haha! hermanas dont leave your velo in your car!! sister velo wont always be there to the rescue! :p
pianodude07 2 years ago
Ye vate las senor!!! Lol
oirikayazaky 2 years ago
thts my cuz and moi
rosasshortest 2 years ago
Hilarious, I love it!!! I wish you were real. You don't know how many times I've forgotten my veil!!!
naomiluv1982 2 years ago
sista velo I called u where were u i needed a velo lol j/k that was cute though God Bless
SistaGuera7 3 years ago
haha I LOVED IT
GOD BLEDD FROM DHS APOSTOLIC CHURCH
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lols to the trinitarian arguing with the other guy. Bottom line is both denominations believe in the new pact we have with Jesus Christ and the price he paid. Both see powerful movements of the Lord. I am a oneness but would never say that any other denomination was a cult or a heretic. How is that ever our place...and duh pamphlets are gunna tell u what the writer belives. The word of God is a mirror when a woman reads it and sees that she should cover her head and not wear what pertains...
soymuygoodo09 3 years ago
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to a man and worship with propriety and modesty. it is up to the word of God to change a heart not man and not a pamphlet rebuking another denomination. I know oneness' aren't the only ones going to heaven but to say that we're not and yall are isn't biblical either. To say who goes up and who goes down is to bring God down. That's Biblical. Cool vid!
soymuygoodo09 3 years ago
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soymuygoodo09 3 years ago
lol its funny
noelxthexkiller 3 years ago
All I know is that up to the 1970's every major church tradition proscribed a type of head covering for women be it a veil, hat, scarf, etc.
MACH37217 3 years ago
All I know is that up to the 1970's every major church tradition proscribed a type of head covering for women be it a veil, hat, scarf, etc.
MACH37217 3 years ago
I still want ur autograph sister velo...u never gave it to me
apostolica4life 3 years ago
I love this video
ajahnicole 3 years ago
Super Duper Sis Keep going you are a real hero!!
windowsspace2008 3 years ago
you guys need to shut up. just follow your own religion & we'll follow ours. the velo wont get you into heaven. just whatch the frickin video & enjoy it! ignorant punks.
bubblenelly 3 years ago
Praise Him That Sits On The Thone~Jesus Christ!What a shame,of the remarks that don't edify on something that was meant 4good.Sac Apostolic Church:"May U all be blessed.For not being ashamed 2 take the time 2 share the truth."Heavenly Father In The Name Of Jesus, Bless This Video and Those Who Watch it &may it do exactly what it was intended to do~ Educate and Bless. In The Precious Name Of Jesus Love,Sis. Terri
SisTerri 3 years ago
This is a more accurate reflection of what YOU ACTUALLY belive:
"Praise her that sits on the YouTube throne, SisTerri, judging who will be saved and who wont be saved. Amen."
clb555239 3 years ago
Lord let this person get their facts straight. I didn't read any where, where it reads I condemned them to hell.Just maybe their their own heart they know right now they are walking in the wrong direction. And by the way, you want to be able to correct follow my God and go in the right direction. God Bless Your Enemies
SisTerri 3 years ago
This quotes directly from your first reply:"Don't let it Be To Late That He/She would have true salvation."
In other words (according to YOU) currently I DON'T have true salvation, which means that (according to YOU) i'm condemned. Right?
clb555239 3 years ago
And stop praying when you reply to my comments. I'm not God. You can talk to me like a human.
clb555239 3 years ago
i agree with xxxemoxbo1xxx
just wish she was nicer
lol
ilovemusic17lily 3 years ago
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lol funny stuff
onlybyhisgrace09 3 years ago
I can't believe you guys are still discussing this issue. It seems like the veil is around your eyes instead of your head. And this video is the reason mainstream Christians consider Apostolic Pentecostals a cult. The veil and skirt wearing only makes you seem more outlandish.
Why can't you grow up and understand the veil and skirt-wearing is not biblical? Its a misinterpretation of scripture.
clb555239 3 years ago
Oh my goodness do you know that not all roads lead to Heaven!! I only read 2 lines of what you wrote and all I have to say is "In the Name Of Jesus Dear Heavenly Father Open The Eyes, Heart, of The One Who Wrote This and let them come to the real truth! Don't let it Be To Late That He/She would have true salvation. I pray this In Jesus Name. Blessings & Understanding to All ~ Sister Terri from Reedley
SisTerri 3 years ago
The fact that you only "read 2 lines of what I wrote" shows how ignorant you are. And how dare you put yourself in the position of judging who is going to be saved and who isn't. I've got news for you: SAC is not the only church going to heaven. If that's what you believe then you are a cult and YOU need spritual guidance. That's exactly what you are for judging and taking God's place as a judge.
clb555239 3 years ago
And by the way, if you would like to debate the use of the veil from a theological and biblical perspective I would be more than glad to do so. People like you need some serious enlightenment!
clb555239 3 years ago
I agree with comment posted by ngarcia2. In the bible it says that people perish for the lack of knowledge. Nowhere in the sister velo video was the name of Jesus mentioned. Sharing the good news about Jesus' love and his salvation is more important than a piece of cloth. The world needs Him more than man's doctrine. My advice to you is to get in the word daily and ask the Holy Spirit to show you the truth instead of taking a preacher's word for it.
macvick7 3 years ago
sis. velo is my cuz yay im related to a super hero
okami211 3 years ago
I cannot believe Apostolic 'RELIGION' still wear their 'VELOS'.The veil is not going to save you. I was born and raised in the Apostolic Church and I I know what it says on Corinth.11-21.But you got to look at it Spiritualy not by flesh. Sis velo, your covering is your husband and your husdand's covering is Christ. If your not married, your covering is your Pastor,and your Pastor's covering is Christ.
ngarcia2 3 years ago
HAHAHA!!! ur gonna need a lot more velos!!
superman1251 3 years ago
Very Funny!!! But there's really no point in u guys wearing velos if ur just gonna wear them on the backs of ur head. Oh and also it's stupid that sis. velo has a whole bunch of white velos since u guys just wear tiny black see-through velos on the very backs of ur heads!!! God Bless!!!
xxxemoxbo1xxx 3 years ago
hehe..thats funny!
jessicajazzy 4 years ago
i know sis velos!! she used to go to epa church when she was small - funny & cute video..lol
yoamoaJESUSCHRIST 4 years ago
i yelled out sister velo and she didnt come what a bummer lol.jkjk
josh4drum 4 years ago
Muy bien buen mensaje, mi esposa los deja inside the glove box, in both cars, even in the bisi...LOL
God bless great job sis.
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fxstudioz28 4 years ago
THATS MY SISTER!
Hah!
Seriousley.
bubblenelly 4 years ago
LOL...LOL...LOL
Onika82 4 years ago
Omg! my spiritual mother sent this to me! she said i have to stop forgetting my velo, and to that once i saw this i'd know who to call! HAHAHA ;)
U are too cute sisters. Great message! Love it!
ackc07 4 years ago
you sisters are so cute! What creativity! Yeah the forgotten velo story, it always happens. hehe Good job!
marybelle123 4 years ago
LOL this is so funny lol Yup its embarrasing that me being a guy carries velos for the girls lol cuz some of them forget it at home lol
tuddy20 4 years ago
well even i wear a skirt and i dont think that it is a cult
emily2189 4 years ago 2
Its part of there cult.
ranchobaja 4 years ago
why do you wear a veil is it like a prayer cap?
emily2189 4 years ago
basically its a prayer cap but they are thinner and the girls have to wear it when they go to church to show reverese to God 1Corinthians 11
tuddy20 4 years ago
in some churches, its basically a "prayer cap" for women.
tm11111111 3 years ago
Emily, the viel is used ONLY by oneness pentecostals, who have been classified as a cult/sect by every major Christian group/organization. It's nothing more than a tradition born out of biblical misinterpretation.
clb555239 3 years ago
Dude, when you say "every major Christian group/organization" has classified them as a cult, you gotta say who. So the Baptist, Methodist, Salvation Army, Red Cross, Episcopalians, etc... all have said this? Where is the official press release? I grew up wit this stuff and even though i am still finding out my spiritual identity and questioning the existence of GOD, let them be. If there is a GOD,it will judge accordinlly.
jigaboojones 3 years ago
According to the Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, Oneness Pentecostals had been classified as heretical in 1915-1917, when they were expelled from the Assemblies of God for denying the Trinity doctrine. Current publications from various Oneness groups, including the UPC, indicate that Oneness adherents vehemently continue to reject the historic, orthodox view of the Godhead.
clb555239 3 years ago
So you are telling me a Pentecostal dictionary says the Oneness Pentecostals have been classified as heretical? Thats the thing about Protestantism, if you dont agree you break off and form a new branch of it. And of course, when you break off from another branch, you usually get named heretical/etc... So basically a branch of PROTESTANTISM(Pentecostalism) is calling another group
jigaboojones 3 years ago
that broke off a heretical sect/cult? Come on, that happens all the time with METHODIST, BAPTIST, even among Pentecostal churchs. The UPC is not the final authority of PENTECOSTALISM! Christianity was a form a Jewish Sect. When you use words like "SECT" or "CULT", people have the stereotypical view of something negative. If you look up the words, it can be implied as positive or negative. So I take it your are looking at the ONENESS MOVEMENT as a NEGATIVE.
jigaboojones 3 years ago
You are looking from the lenses of a PENTECOSTAL member from the sources you stated. Another thing about breaking off due to DOCTRINAL VIEWS, didn't the CATHOLIC CHURCH and ORTHODOX CHURCH split from each other in the 11th century due to a single subject? ( I believe it was in regards to the HOLY SPIRIT). So one thing is the difference from one and the other.
jigaboojones 3 years ago
Your logic makes no sense. First of all, Pentecostals would not classify themselves as "heretical"--if anything they want to AVOID that classification because it is stigmatizing. It is not Pentecostal, but TRINITARIAN theologians that make this classification. Secondly, I realize the fact that there are many branches of Christianity (Methodist, Lutheran, Baptists, etc...) however they all share one thing in common--the orthodox doctrine of the TRINITY....
clb555239 3 years ago
...Since ONENESS Pentecostals have denied the trinity (as do the Jehova Witnesses) they have been classified as a cult (or heretical).
By the way, I noticed in your comments you made no distinction between Pentecostals and ONENESS Pentecostals. There's a huge difference. There are ONENESS Pentecostals and then there are TRINITARIAN Pentecostals--I'm a Trinitarian Pentecostal myself :)
clb555239 3 years ago
So you are telling me that "TRINITARIAN THEOLOGIANS" have classified the "Oneness Pentecostals/Evangelicals" as heretical? So Southern Medthodist call Northern Medthodist hereticals. Baptist call Southern Baptist heretical. Orthodox Jews call Reform Jews heretical.ETC.....!!!!! What you are saying is OBVIOUS. ONE GROUP CALLS ANOTHER HERETICAL/CULT. Why would "Oneness Pentecostals" care what Trinitarian THEOLOGIANS say??? Dude, you are trying to argue a DOCTRINAL and THEOLOGICAL debate.
jigaboojones 3 years ago
So you are telling me that "TRINITARIAN THEOLOGIANS" have classified the "Oneness Pentecostals/Evangelicals" as heretical? So Southern Medthodist call Northern Medthodist hereticals. Baptist call Southern Baptist heretical. Orthodox Jews call Reform Jews heretical.ETC.....!!!!! What you are saying is OBVIOUS. ONE GROUP CALLS ANOTHER HERETICAL/CULT. Why would "Oneness Pentecostals" care what Trinitarian THEOLOGIANS say??? Dude, you are trying to argue a DOCTRINAL and THEOLOGICAL debate
jigaboojones 3 years ago
Another thing you say is that all major faiths have the share the TRINITY DOCTRINE. SO WHAT!!!! You share that but what about other DOCRINAL VIEWS??? DIVINITY OF JESUS, ROLE OF WOMEN IN THE CHURCH, JAMEST CHRISTIANITY vs. PAULINIST CHRISTIANITY, ETC... Third, yeah there are different PENTECOSTAL groups, majority are TRINITARIAN but some are not. Different organizations also follow the ONENESS. I believe that this video shows APOSTOLIC members. They wouldnt even consider themselves PENTECOSTAL.
jigaboojones 3 years ago
You close by saying about which group you belong. To me, that was obvious from 1st comment. You are looking at a group that broke off from your ORGANIZATION (TRINITARIAN PENTECOSTAL) and thus you see them as heretical. Another thing I said that HERETICAL/SECT can be a POSITIVE or NEGATIVE word. Please state how you use those words. Also, I not write in CAPS to yell, rather to state my points of an arguement. I am working on my Master in Religious Studies at a SECULAR SCHOOL.
jigaboojones 3 years ago
I dont say this to boost myself but rather to say that if I wanted a certain DOCRTINAL VIEW, i'd go to a theoligical school. I am seeing your point of view from a FAITH based view. Once you involve FAITH based arguments, the arguement goes out the window because its how YOU or YOUR CHURCH see things. People interpret what they read differently.
jigaboojones 3 years ago
I close with what I BELIEVE is fundamental with CHRISTIANITY. If there is a GOD, HE wont ask what church you are from or how much you gave. But rather, HE will say if you feed, clothed or healed him. Because what you did to somebody else, you did to HIM. The most important commandments to me are: LOVE YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART and MIND and LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF. If there is a judgement, HE WILL JUDGE WITH PERFECTION AND JUST. LET HIM DECIDE, NOT US!
jigaboojones 3 years ago
It is becoming more and more obvious to me that you lack the ability to maintain a logical conversation. I replied with 2 comments and you reply to me with 6 comments! Do you honestly believe that you can win a debate by flooding me with words rather than logic? Please!
By the way, the fact that you are working on your masters means nothing. I'm an undergraduate student at a university and I know plenty of nut job ignoramuses with Doctorate degrees.
clb555239 3 years ago
Oh well, i'll try to answer all of your brainless comments:
1-I never said that ALL major faiths have to share the trinity doctrine. Bhudism is a major faith yet it doesn't even believe in God.
2-Southern Medthodist may very well call Northern Medthodist hereticals, however they do not classify them as a cult because they both share the doctrine of the trinity. This applies to Luthers, Baptist, Methodist, and all other divisions of Christianity.
clb555239 3 years ago
3-Oneness Pentecostalism not only is heretical but sectist. Look at any pamphlet in a christian bookstore about cults/sects and you will find Oneness Pentecostals in between Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons.
4-I never established my church as the authority on the classification of Christian sects--I'm asking you to look at the sources. It's as easy as going to a bookstore.
5-Your final comment stated that God is the only one who can judge and I agree with you completely...
clb555239 3 years ago
However, that is no excuse to turn a blind eye when it comes to identifying cults and heresies that have risen within the church.
Whew...what a relief.
Ok, now I'm ready for another 6 replies. (And this time please be logical and actually answer MY arguments. Thank you.)
clb555239 3 years ago
1)We are talking about CHRISTIANITY so you said "Secondly, I realize the fact that there are many branches of Christianity (Methodist, Lutheran, Baptists, etc...) however they all share one thing in common--the orthodox doctrine of the TRINITY....". What does "HOWEVER THEY ALL SHARE ONE THING IN COMMON-The Orthodox Doctrine of the TRINITY" mean. You branch the MAJORITY OF ALL CHRISTIAN BRANCHES TOGETHER WITH THAT STATEMENT.
jigaboojones 3 years ago
2)I know that N. Methodist wont classify other methodist as cult but they will NOT as cult. In your first comment you said that "Emily, the viel is used ONLY by oneness pentecostals, who have been classified as a cult/sect by every major Christian group/organization". In that statement you say that CULT/SECT are very similar. You need to distinguish both of them if you think they are different.
3)I can go to different bookstores and get dif sources.You want me to visit the bookstores you go to?
jigaboojones 3 years ago
4)Who has the final authority on CHRISTIAN SECTS? Again, you want me to get my sources at what bookstores? THEY WILL BE BIASED SOURCES! IF I go to a Luthern Bookstore, i will get a view from a Luthern on DOCRTINE, a METHODIST bookstore= METHODIST VIEW, etc...
5)You state that GOD can only judge, but why do you call somebody else a CULT/SECT. You are judging them with that statement.
jigaboojones 3 years ago
Now you will answer my arguements: 1)What is DOCTRINE on the DIVINITY of JESUS. 2) What is the DOCTINE on the leadership role of WOMEN in church( i.e: ministers, pastors, preachers, etc...). 3) What is the DOCTRINE on TONGUES? Finally, YOU NEED TO ANSWER: IS A SECT and CULT differnt or the same? Are they bad or good and according to who? Last, where are you from? What state, city? This will help me better understand your view. Lot of morons with doctorate degrees but more with baseless opinions!
jigaboojones 3 years ago
1. The Debate over the divinity of Jesus is way too extensive. You need to ask me a specific question on the divinity and I will be glad to answer.
2. I don't see how the leadership role of women in church is relevant to the topic. There are plenty of oneness churches that allow women to preach behind a pulpit (and have leadership positions) and there are also oneness churches that limit a woman's role in the church to cooking in the kitchen. This isn't relevant to the topic of the oneness.
clb555239 3 years ago
lame.
thr3ice 5 years ago
LOL, that was cool, i love being Apostolic
ApostolicGodsChild 5 years ago 3
lol love it! youre so silly guys! lol ... i need new velos...thanx for reminding me!
rachelovesivan 5 years ago
sister velo you should come to my church, there is someone every service
eliseo530 5 years ago
Sistah Velo hah hah hah
Cyclelicious 5 years ago
hahaahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
WonderfulViry 5 years ago
HAha this is too funny...I keep telling mom that there should be lots of velos stashed in church some where, and pins too for all those ladies that forget their velos.
eeorona 5 years ago
HAha this is too funny...I keep telling mom that there should be lots of velos stashed in church some where, and pins too for all those ladies that forget their velos.
eeorona 5 years ago
Omg, i love this!
foxyarce 5 years ago
This is tooo, too funny! haha
A typical Sunday in an Apostolic Assembly Church! haha
EmaBermudez 5 years ago
lol awesome video!
Madair777 5 years ago