Rape victims in Muslim countries are almost always encouraged to not report it. If they do, they are usually imprisoned themselves and shunned. Islam is the most fucked up religion known to man.
Id speculate there are far less rapes in America and in the "Western" world in general in comparison to these socially, economically and scientifically inferior countries.
Of course you were making that point. That was rather obvious. The point here is, that your point is true, yet in the relevant context it is practically invalid.
@xzxCHIPxzx In Muslim countries boys rape is very common too. Even Koran teachers and imams rape boys and girls. Pakistan is number one in Islamic terrorism.
@xzxCHIPxzx This is different Pakistani police rapes Muslim women. You should search Pakistani rape woman and see the video with a poor woman without salwaar who was being raped in a police station when TV news got there.
Keystones cops. Gotta love that unbiased lawyer also, "So he says that he is innocent, obsolutely. And he seems to be innocent I tell you.". Yea, okay pal, go back to doing what you do best, which is nothing.
guys you all can keep on arguing with each each other with useless statements. what I BELIEVE IS THAT ALL THESE ABRUPTIONS HAPPEN COZ OF THE DEMOCRACY SHIT ,being a muslim and as visible within he history ,Sharia'a Caliphate is the best model to run a natioin up./.like in saudi arabia ,dubai or any other arab country which has got caliphate legislation do not suffer these kinda things.. and pls stop accusing and abusing each other as its useless.every body has got to work on this accounts.
@Wrath0fKhan i was expecting you to pay your say after saying ON THE CONTRARY ,i am not clear actually whether you are bluffing me or agree with what i said in the earlier post bro
If I were a Pakistani (or a person of any other nationality) and I really cared for the welfare of women, and the way in which the world perceives my country- I'd make bloody sure those who're responsible for crimes against women would be brought to justice. If I play pope by covering crimes up and shuffling rapist police, then I'd deserve any criticism and mockery coming my way. I'd love to see some Pakistani outrage about this, mass outrage, don't take this crap from the police- ever.
LOL, this is Taxila! Before muslim barbarians attacked india, the hindu university of Taxila was the greatest center of learning in the world with some of the greatest minds of all time like Panini, Chanakya etc. teaching there. Now look what islam did to that place and its people.
Question to all Pakistanis : don't u guys feel ashamed or sorry for your country for this situation? How can the police treat it's own citizens like this. And that too a 13 year old girl. Too bad So
shame on pakistan.everyone in pakistan knows women are raped in police custody. but they think it wont happen to their wife or daughter. pakistani women in uk and usa are so arrogant they forget if they were back in pakistan the police would rape and use them .pakistani ladies sit in uk with ass tight and talk about human rights.pakistani ladies should be gratefull that in uk europe etc the police do not use them for sexual pleasure.also husbands dont beat their ass here in europe usa.
I hate that garbage of Islam. There is NO humanity, NO mercy, NO compassion, NO love in Islam. Muslims are fed with cruelty inside their mothers' wombs, and through out their life. So what can you expect from them? Allah has made them all worse than mad animals. Just watch here what they do to animals:
She is a brave girl. It is horrible what she suffered but she is doing the right thing to expose the crimes of those police and stop them from imprisoning and sexually hurting more women in her community. Who knows how many women's lives those terrible men have already ruined?
Police walon ki maa ki choot....sab say baray badmash yehi hain aur jab bomb blast main kuttay ki mout martay hain to shaheed kehalwaye jatay hain....inn ki families ko 30, 30 lacs rupees miltay hain.....Inn kuton ko Shaheed kehnay walon ki bhi maa ki kuss
I am a Porkistani soilder. Anti-Porki forces are defaming my motherland and something must be done about this. Rape is no big deal in your country so why single us out? Yes most Porkis are rapist by nature but that doesn't mean that victims are always women. Sometimes we rape goats and camels as well.
Just the other day I was very happy because after 1 week of constipation finally I was able to shit & I tell you it was beautiful. Anyways I then raped a goat so plz don't show us in bad light.
These police should all be killed and if anyone come to help of these police how raped her they should also be killed without any mercy. If I was there believe you me they would be dead already but I live in england so they can keep their lives
We all hear far too many such stories about violence and oppression of the powerless by those who are supposed to protect them as in this story about police gang rape. Many of us don’t even like to watch stories like this any more because of the powerlessness we feel. “Compassion fatigue” has become its own story. Sexualfuturist offers a solution to give brave people like Sana a voice.
@Wrath0fKhan ,when a country wich claims to be "islamic " doenst follow Islam, women are raped, kids are forced marriage in very young age,people do black magic on each others, etc,. etc.. This is why Allah is sending azab on napakistan:
"“Corruption has appeared on land and in the sea as an outcome of what men’s hands have wrought: and so He will let them taste [the evil of] some of their doings, so that they might return [to the right path].”(Quran -Surah Rum -30:41)
@Wrath0fKhan ,well if you are a muslim, then you should know that anyhting is possible for Allah to do. But if you are not, then there is no point explaining to you.
@eflip1 , "muslims"? Which muslims are you speaking of? If pakistan was muslim then they wouldnt kill my people(Pashtuns/Afghans) in Pakistan for usa dollars. If they were muslims they wouldnt send military supplies from punjab through khyberpass into Afghanistan to supply USA military so they can kill more pashtuns in Afgfganistan. I only care about my Pashtun speople. To hell with punjabis.
@ChangaManga1000 Just be patient, because now is not the time for hating other brothers. This is what the devil loves, to see Muslims crush each other. I am not happy about countless number of innocent people who are being killed everyday in Afghanistan or Iraq or in Palestine.
If you pray and ask Allah for support, I am sure that Allah will give you peace and if not Allah will reward you in the hereafter (i.e. Paradise), and in that case there is no better reward for you then paradise.
@Wrath0fKhan I know what you are trying to say. Obviously you are trying to disrespect, so I would get angry. But I am not angry and only laughing for the comment you've made.
What am I trying to say? That the Islamic system (just as any system) based on "spiritual technology" doesnt really work/deliver? Perhaps, thats what Im trying to say. However, does that count as disrespect? I dont think so. Its on you to demonstrate whether it works, how it works, etc. No one has been able to do so until now. Laughing is healthy, indeed! :))
@Wrath0fKhan Islam is a religion which favourite's all kinds of people. It orders the rich to pay voluntary charity yearly which is 2.5% to the poor. It's forbidden to charge interest on loans. All men are children of Adam, so whether you are black or white, no one is better then another. But only those who strive for increase in faith.
Think about any good thing and you'll find that Islam permits it. Ow, and yes, it's forbidden to kill innocent people including infidels.
Br0ther, infidels are not "innocent" by definition. That indeed doesnt mean they deserve immediate death. Yet the Quran clearly teaches that "hell" is waiting for them in the "afterlife". And "that" is certainly "bad".
One doesnt have to be Muslim to give charity. Look at Bill Gates and his comrades. They are about to give 50% of their belongings to charity.
Interest and loans are the motor of any modern economy. It doenst matter how you call them or how you "mask" them (e.g. sukuk).
Striving to "increase in faith" is yet another problem you have there. You are unable to demonstrate your faith. What follows is that you cant be sure of any matter of faith, no matter how much youve increased your faith. Its rather a useless endeavor.
Good things? Like disbelief in Allah, disbelief in prophet Muhammad, prostitution, orgies, anal intercourse, homosexuality, gay marriages, freedom of thought, freedom of choice, secular democracy, what else do we have there... :))
Dont bother, br0ther! That term "spiritual technology" appears to be funny to me as well. But that certainly aint about disrespect. Its rather a short, approximate description about what Islam is supposed to be about. :))
@Wrath0fKhan I don't know what say to you. It's like you want to discuss and understand the subject. At the same time you're not giving yourself the opportunity to hear what I have to say. Instead you have decided to your opinion and it's fine with me. At the end of the day you have yourself to blame. When you face the Lord for judgement, and it's not a joke.
Yes, I have given you a short description about Islam, but it's responsibility to find out the rest.
I dont think so. However, it might look like that way because Ive heard all the possible arguments (on may expect) already. Dont get discouraged though, I always keep an open mind.
"When you face the Lord"
Come on! Where is the "Lord"? Of course its a "joke", because you cant demonstrate a thing!
"find out the rest"
Geeez... Been there done that. I may even know better about Islam than you do.
@Wrath0fKhan You've said some positive things there. It's not about how much one knows. It's about ones own actions that counts, both mental and physical actions.
It's good to be open minded, after all, we all make decisions based on situations that arise within our lives. It looks like you've set your mind to refute any possible argument as you've said so. You may be Christian or other religion or, maybe an Atheist. We all have something to relate to.
"not about how much one knows .. actions that counts"
What do you base your actions on? I base my actions on what I already know (rational, emotional states) what I possibly expect, sometimes on plain instinct and sometimes even attempting a "random scramble". It doesnt appear as simple as you say.
"good to be open minded"
Sure. In many cases it is good. There are cases too where it appears to be detrimental. So... Lid up and lid down. And again, lid up and lid down. And so on.
Under the bottom line thats what it leads to, since we cant really prove "things" (math/logic being the only exception). However, we can disprove things. All Im demanding from you is some "action". Lets test your claims!
"relate to"
Anyone can relate to anything. The point again is, if we make certain claims, we should be as well able to demonstrate them.
What follows is, that I dont subscribe to any religion, since they cant demonstrate their claims.
@Wrath0fKhan So you're an Atheist. That makes sense. What do you need me to demonstrate, because for me it's all clear. Can you at least agree that the universe is created by the Unseen Creator (ie. God).
@Wrath0fKhan I will now pose a question to you. Since I am very stupid according to you.
Suppose you visited the kitchen, cause, you were hungry and needed a bit. Anyway, you find a meal prepared already. You don't know or can't prove who cooked.
Would you say that the food prepared itself or would acknowledge and say that someone is responsible for the prepared meal?
I tried to search all the comments but the search didnt yield any matches except for the yours.
"kitchen .. meal .. analogy"
Unfortunately thats a fallacy. More specifically its a fallacy of false analogy and a fallacy of division/composition. There is no example in nature which could be analogically equaled to a deity. Furthermore, parts and wholes have often different properties as their opposites.
@Wrath0fKhan I can see you have issues with answering question. If you don't want to answers the question, then there is no point to continue the conversation. Peace!
I see you have a problem to admit that you dont have a valid answer! Indeed, there is no point to continue this conversation. Time to "grow up", aint it...
The stats are out there, publicly accessible. We cant say this about the countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi, Egypt, Sudan, Somalia, etc...
On average, those countries are as well vastly socially, economically and scientifically inferior. Im wondering, is there a possible correlation and even explanatory mechanism to be found?
@stinger2103 hdr.undp(.)org/en/statistics scimagojr(.)com/countryrank(.)php arwu(.)org/ARWU2009_2(.)jsp consang(.)net/index(.)php/Global_prevalence en.rsf(.)org/press-freedom-index-2009,1001(.)html transparency(.)org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2009/cpi_2009_table w w w1(.)internationalliving(.)com/qofl2010 watch?v=3Pk2-vr4sSw watch?v=QwlW9Qq_zEc etc... Aint those some shocking "revelations"? I would think so!
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May Allah protect the honour of all helpless women,
May those who torment them either die or give in,
May the weak get stronger with their minds at ease,
May the wicked suffer of a wretched disease,
May cruelty stop & those hurting be freed,
May those people go blind who only see greed,
May the hearts of all Muslims be filled with light,
May lives of the cruel become a gruesome dark night,
May our brothers forget their differences & all unite,
May they protect our sisters & do what's right!
Oz1x 2 weeks ago
wahhh... PAKISTAN ROCKS..... what a great nation!!!!!
priyamjeetable 2 weeks ago
Who is the freak who disliked this video?...
U r the biggest problem of them all...
I hope only u r mother, sister, girlfriend, wife and maybe u r wife get's raped by 1 of these personb's...
THEN U WILL UNDERSTAND WHOM U R SUPPORTING... or just for better result's I WISH THAT U WOULD BE GANG RAPED BY MEN!!!... FUCK U!...
akshaynanthur 3 weeks ago
CHANGE PAKISTHANS NAME TO TERRORISTHAN
MrHiwelcome 3 weeks ago 2
Rape victims in Muslim countries are almost always encouraged to not report it. If they do, they are usually imprisoned themselves and shunned. Islam is the most fucked up religion known to man.
austinguy23 1 month ago
asal main is country main insaaf nahi hai agar is country main adal nafiz hoo jaye to yeh buraiya aumatically finish ho jaye
1adnanbhatti 3 months ago
How many rapes happen in America?
Jeez... believe in anything
xzxCHIPxzx 4 months ago
@xzxCHIPxzx
"How many rapes happen in America"
Id speculate there are far less rapes in America and in the "Western" world in general in comparison to these socially, economically and scientifically inferior countries.
"believe in anything"
Surely not!
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan Im making a point in saying that rapists, murderers exist in every region.
xzxCHIPxzx 4 months ago
@xzxCHIPxzx
"Im making a point in saying that"
Of course you were making that point. That was rather obvious. The point here is, that your point is true, yet in the relevant context it is practically invalid.
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan Cool.... is that all?
xzxCHIPxzx 4 months ago
@xzxCHIPxzx
"is that all"
Not at all... You need to acquaint yourself with the evidence.
Wrath0fKhan 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan Good,,,, is that all?
xzxCHIPxzx 4 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan
HEY PAKISTAN GOT THE ADVANCED AND STRICT LAW AGAINST RAPE .
A RAPPER IS FINED FOR THE RAPPING..
RAPPING AGAIN IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF YOU PAY ADVANCED FINE TO RELIGIOUS CLERIK...
ALSO THE RAPE VICTIM IS SEVIOURLY PUNNISHED FOR ADULTERY !
AND ALSO TO AVOID FUTURE RAPE PAKSIATN LAW PERMITS TO MARRY THE VICTIM .IF INTERESTED MORE MINOR GIRLS AS MANY TIMES AS UR STAMINA ...
THEN TELL ME U STILL BLAMING PAKISTAN ?
jabir1thegreat 1 month ago
@jabir1thegreat
Holy sh*t!
Wrath0fKhan 1 month ago
@xzxCHIPxzx In Muslim countries boys rape is very common too. Even Koran teachers and imams rape boys and girls. Pakistan is number one in Islamic terrorism.
viccram 1 month ago
@xzxCHIPxzx This is different Pakistani police rapes Muslim women. You should search Pakistani rape woman and see the video with a poor woman without salwaar who was being raped in a police station when TV news got there.
viccram 1 month ago
Disgusting people with a disgusting religion = disgusting culture.
leffehoegaarden 4 months ago 2
Keystones cops. Gotta love that unbiased lawyer also, "So he says that he is innocent, obsolutely. And he seems to be innocent I tell you.". Yea, okay pal, go back to doing what you do best, which is nothing.
HaligonianType1 4 months ago 2
not cuz of islam. these foolish men shall be punished by Allaah
MuslimVlogGuy 5 months ago
Brave girl. Filthy country.
Imbalaya 6 months ago 5
paradise for women :D
iAintNoIdiot 7 months ago
pakistan a gr8 world 4 women it is a paradise
TheBodygrow 8 months ago
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islam islam islam
amzeedog 8 months ago
guys you all can keep on arguing with each each other with useless statements. what I BELIEVE IS THAT ALL THESE ABRUPTIONS HAPPEN COZ OF THE DEMOCRACY SHIT ,being a muslim and as visible within he history ,Sharia'a Caliphate is the best model to run a natioin up./.like in saudi arabia ,dubai or any other arab country which has got caliphate legislation do not suffer these kinda things.. and pls stop accusing and abusing each other as its useless.every body has got to work on this accounts.
abikhan89 8 months ago
@abikhan89
"do not suffer these kinda things"
On the contrary...
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan would you explain as how do you feel ,,ON THE CONTRARY ?
abikhan89 8 months ago
@abikhan89
Is there something you dont understand?
Wrath0fKhan 8 months ago
@Wrath0fKhan i was expecting you to pay your say after saying ON THE CONTRARY ,i am not clear actually whether you are bluffing me or agree with what i said in the earlier post bro
abikhan89 8 months ago
lolz what is wrong with PAKISTAN people
hassanbinrasheed 9 months ago
this is realy taxila,ppl know about the nibus of education these muslims are realy hatred.wherever they go dirtyness also go along
TheScorpianwit 9 months ago
If I were a Pakistani (or a person of any other nationality) and I really cared for the welfare of women, and the way in which the world perceives my country- I'd make bloody sure those who're responsible for crimes against women would be brought to justice. If I play pope by covering crimes up and shuffling rapist police, then I'd deserve any criticism and mockery coming my way. I'd love to see some Pakistani outrage about this, mass outrage, don't take this crap from the police- ever.
TurboDally 9 months ago
LOL, this is Taxila! Before muslim barbarians attacked india, the hindu university of Taxila was the greatest center of learning in the world with some of the greatest minds of all time like Panini, Chanakya etc. teaching there. Now look what islam did to that place and its people.
lotiq 10 months ago
I m sure Pakistan will end in a giant tsunami, 10 times more powerful than the recent Japanese tsunami
rohitblore2002 10 months ago
Question to all Pakistanis : don't u guys feel ashamed or sorry for your country for this situation? How can the police treat it's own citizens like this. And that too a 13 year old girl. Too bad So
rohitblore2002 10 months ago 2
Show these kind of videos to Zakhir naik of india. This asshole naik claims that women in Islam get extra protection. Protection my foot, we can see
rohitblore2002 10 months ago 10
@rohitblore2002
Yea... Women in Islamic countries get extra rape protection. You should not confuse this special "Islamic feature" with protection from rape.
"Silence on spousal sexual assault jarring: Doctors"
tribune(.)com(.)pk/story/129787/silence-on-spousal-sexual-assault-jarring-doctors/
tinyurl(.)com/4825q34
Wrath0fKhan 10 months ago 10
Shame shame shame!!! Poor girl...may Waheguru Maharaj bless u with courage and strength to achieve ur goal.....
It really is a Kaal jugg!!
msrkaur 10 months ago
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shame on pakistan.everyone in pakistan knows women are raped in police custody. but they think it wont happen to their wife or daughter. pakistani women in uk and usa are so arrogant they forget if they were back in pakistan the police would rape and use them .pakistani ladies sit in uk with ass tight and talk about human rights.pakistani ladies should be gratefull that in uk europe etc the police do not use them for sexual pleasure.also husbands dont beat their ass here in europe usa.
bundmastee 11 months ago
brave! keep it up!
mrdhenstyx06 11 months ago
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I hate that garbage of Islam. There is NO humanity, NO mercy, NO compassion, NO love in Islam. Muslims are fed with cruelty inside their mothers' wombs, and through out their life. So what can you expect from them? Allah has made them all worse than mad animals. Just watch here what they do to animals:
Longeeen 1 year ago
long live pakistan
0mR0kNoCkOuT0 1 year ago
She is a brave girl. It is horrible what she suffered but she is doing the right thing to expose the crimes of those police and stop them from imprisoning and sexually hurting more women in her community. Who knows how many women's lives those terrible men have already ruined?
MsColdCanada 1 year ago 2
Police walon ki maa ki choot....sab say baray badmash yehi hain aur jab bomb blast main kuttay ki mout martay hain to shaheed kehalwaye jatay hain....inn ki families ko 30, 30 lacs rupees miltay hain.....Inn kuton ko Shaheed kehnay walon ki bhi maa ki kuss
TheFugitive1000 1 year ago
Police waloon ko saza-e-mut honi cahiye
tahir5422 1 year ago
I am a Porkistani soilder. Anti-Porki forces are defaming my motherland and something must be done about this. Rape is no big deal in your country so why single us out? Yes most Porkis are rapist by nature but that doesn't mean that victims are always women. Sometimes we rape goats and camels as well.
Just the other day I was very happy because after 1 week of constipation finally I was able to shit & I tell you it was beautiful. Anyways I then raped a goat so plz don't show us in bad light.
MuslimsOwnBritain 1 year ago 2
@MuslimsOwnBritain
Sounds convincing (especially if we take into account all the reporting, whether corporate, private, domestic or foreign, UN statistic, etc...).
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 5
These police should all be killed and if anyone come to help of these police how raped her they should also be killed without any mercy. If I was there believe you me they would be dead already but I live in england so they can keep their lives
ThePashtunnotpak1 1 year ago
Rapists should get genitals chopped off, in any country.
unitasetmagus 1 year ago
time to lynch all such people. time to save our land & people.
alizedd 1 year ago
An indian salutes you sana...
rishiarora87 1 year ago
brave girl.if i was that girl,i will not stop and haunt them down even if i have turned into a ghost.hahhaaha!!
khairuleven 1 year ago
she is brave WAOO I SUPPORT HER STAY DERE GIRL U WILL GET JUSTICE JUST STAY DERE INSHALLAH U WILL GET JUSTICE
akifmafia 1 year ago
We all hear far too many such stories about violence and oppression of the powerless by those who are supposed to protect them as in this story about police gang rape. Many of us don’t even like to watch stories like this any more because of the powerlessness we feel. “Compassion fatigue” has become its own story. Sexualfuturist offers a solution to give brave people like Sana a voice.
sexualfuturist 1 year ago
@sexualfuturist
Great...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
I didn't imagine that such a thing could ever happen in Pakistan... such a shame
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1 , if you only knew what is happening in napakistan. These kinds of things are the reason Allah is sending floods on napakistan.
ChangaManga1000 1 year ago
@ChangaManga1000
How is Allah sending floods on Pakistan? How is "he" doing that?
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan ,when a country wich claims to be "islamic " doenst follow Islam, women are raped, kids are forced marriage in very young age,people do black magic on each others, etc,. etc.. This is why Allah is sending azab on napakistan:
"“Corruption has appeared on land and in the sea as an outcome of what men’s hands have wrought: and so He will let them taste [the evil of] some of their doings, so that they might return [to the right path].”(Quran -Surah Rum -30:41)
ChangaManga1000 1 year ago
@ChangaManga1000
Yet Islam is about rape:
watch?v=QwlW9Qq_zEc
Islam is about war booty:
watch?v=yerDKgMiluA
I asked you how Allah was doing it. I didnt ask you to quote emotional extortion verses from the Quran.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan ,well if you are a muslim, then you should know that anyhting is possible for Allah to do. But if you are not, then there is no point explaining to you.
ChangaManga1000 1 year ago
@ChangaManga1000
You should know?! YOU SHOULD KNOW?! How do you know that?! Demonstrate your claims (and hence witness) or simply be quiet!
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@ChangaManga1000 At the end of the day, Muslims need to stand-up and help each other right now in Pakistan and all Muslims around the world.
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1 , "muslims"? Which muslims are you speaking of? If pakistan was muslim then they wouldnt kill my people(Pashtuns/Afghans) in Pakistan for usa dollars. If they were muslims they wouldnt send military supplies from punjab through khyberpass into Afghanistan to supply USA military so they can kill more pashtuns in Afgfganistan. I only care about my Pashtun speople. To hell with punjabis.
ChangaManga1000 1 year ago
@ChangaManga1000 Just be patient, because now is not the time for hating other brothers. This is what the devil loves, to see Muslims crush each other. I am not happy about countless number of innocent people who are being killed everyday in Afghanistan or Iraq or in Palestine.
If you pray and ask Allah for support, I am sure that Allah will give you peace and if not Allah will reward you in the hereafter (i.e. Paradise), and in that case there is no better reward for you then paradise.
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1
Shouldnt the Muslims have access to some special protection from the "devil"? At least the "pious ones"? Some kind of spiritual technology? Come on!
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan I know what you are trying to say. Obviously you are trying to disrespect, so I would get angry. But I am not angry and only laughing for the comment you've made.
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1
What am I trying to say? That the Islamic system (just as any system) based on "spiritual technology" doesnt really work/deliver? Perhaps, thats what Im trying to say. However, does that count as disrespect? I dont think so. Its on you to demonstrate whether it works, how it works, etc. No one has been able to do so until now. Laughing is healthy, indeed! :))
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan Islam is a religion which favourite's all kinds of people. It orders the rich to pay voluntary charity yearly which is 2.5% to the poor. It's forbidden to charge interest on loans. All men are children of Adam, so whether you are black or white, no one is better then another. But only those who strive for increase in faith.
Think about any good thing and you'll find that Islam permits it. Ow, and yes, it's forbidden to kill innocent people including infidels.
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1
Br0ther, infidels are not "innocent" by definition. That indeed doesnt mean they deserve immediate death. Yet the Quran clearly teaches that "hell" is waiting for them in the "afterlife". And "that" is certainly "bad".
One doesnt have to be Muslim to give charity. Look at Bill Gates and his comrades. They are about to give 50% of their belongings to charity.
Interest and loans are the motor of any modern economy. It doenst matter how you call them or how you "mask" them (e.g. sukuk).
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@eflip1
Striving to "increase in faith" is yet another problem you have there. You are unable to demonstrate your faith. What follows is that you cant be sure of any matter of faith, no matter how much youve increased your faith. Its rather a useless endeavor.
Good things? Like disbelief in Allah, disbelief in prophet Muhammad, prostitution, orgies, anal intercourse, homosexuality, gay marriages, freedom of thought, freedom of choice, secular democracy, what else do we have there... :))
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan Ow, and sorry about over-reacting to your comment. It was just so funny, the term you used "spiritual technology". lol
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1
Dont bother, br0ther! That term "spiritual technology" appears to be funny to me as well. But that certainly aint about disrespect. Its rather a short, approximate description about what Islam is supposed to be about. :))
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan I don't know what say to you. It's like you want to discuss and understand the subject. At the same time you're not giving yourself the opportunity to hear what I have to say. Instead you have decided to your opinion and it's fine with me. At the end of the day you have yourself to blame. When you face the Lord for judgement, and it's not a joke.
Yes, I have given you a short description about Islam, but it's responsibility to find out the rest.
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1
"dont know what say to you"
How come? ;-)
"not giving yourself the opportunity to hear"
I dont think so. However, it might look like that way because Ive heard all the possible arguments (on may expect) already. Dont get discouraged though, I always keep an open mind.
"When you face the Lord"
Come on! Where is the "Lord"? Of course its a "joke", because you cant demonstrate a thing!
"find out the rest"
Geeez... Been there done that. I may even know better about Islam than you do.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan You've said some positive things there. It's not about how much one knows. It's about ones own actions that counts, both mental and physical actions.
It's good to be open minded, after all, we all make decisions based on situations that arise within our lives. It looks like you've set your mind to refute any possible argument as you've said so. You may be Christian or other religion or, maybe an Atheist. We all have something to relate to.
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1
"not about how much one knows .. actions that counts"
What do you base your actions on? I base my actions on what I already know (rational, emotional states) what I possibly expect, sometimes on plain instinct and sometimes even attempting a "random scramble". It doesnt appear as simple as you say.
"good to be open minded"
Sure. In many cases it is good. There are cases too where it appears to be detrimental. So... Lid up and lid down. And again, lid up and lid down. And so on.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@eflip1
"set your mind to refute any"
Under the bottom line thats what it leads to, since we cant really prove "things" (math/logic being the only exception). However, we can disprove things. All Im demanding from you is some "action". Lets test your claims!
"relate to"
Anyone can relate to anything. The point again is, if we make certain claims, we should be as well able to demonstrate them.
What follows is, that I dont subscribe to any religion, since they cant demonstrate their claims.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan So you're an Atheist. That makes sense. What do you need me to demonstrate, because for me it's all clear. Can you at least agree that the universe is created by the Unseen Creator (ie. God).
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1
"because for me it s all clear"
How can it be clear, if you cant demonstrate that stuff?
"can you agree .. Unseen Creator"
How could I agree with such a statement? It would be like "jumping the shark". There is simply no evidence.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan I will now pose a question to you. Since I am very stupid according to you.
Suppose you visited the kitchen, cause, you were hungry and needed a bit. Anyway, you find a meal prepared already. You don't know or can't prove who cooked.
Would you say that the food prepared itself or would acknowledge and say that someone is responsible for the prepared meal?
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1
"pose a question to you"
No worries.
"Since I am very stupid according to you"
I tried to search all the comments but the search didnt yield any matches except for the yours.
"kitchen .. meal .. analogy"
Unfortunately thats a fallacy. More specifically its a fallacy of false analogy and a fallacy of division/composition. There is no example in nature which could be analogically equaled to a deity. Furthermore, parts and wholes have often different properties as their opposites.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago 8
@eflip1
Lastly, preparation of meal is matter/energy rearrangement only. What you claim to derive from "all this" simply does not follow.
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan I can see you have issues with answering question. If you don't want to answers the question, then there is no point to continue the conversation. Peace!
eflip1 1 year ago
@eflip1
I see you have a problem to admit that you dont have a valid answer! Indeed, there is no point to continue this conversation. Time to "grow up", aint it...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
How many girls get rapped in U.S ? I will love to know there statistics.
stinger2103 1 year ago
@stinger2103
The stats are out there, publicly accessible. We cant say this about the countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi, Egypt, Sudan, Somalia, etc...
On average, those countries are as well vastly socially, economically and scientifically inferior. Im wondering, is there a possible correlation and even explanatory mechanism to be found?
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago