@TheScienceFoundation Homochirality is a disaster for naturalistic origins. All amino acids in proteins are 'LEFT-handed', while all sugars in DNA and RNA, and in the metabolic pathways, are 'RIGHT-handed'. Chirality!
A 50/50 mixture of left- and right-handed forms is called a racemate or racemic mixture!!. Which life can't use!! Its what we see in nature and in labs!
Life never came about by time chance natural processes! IMPOSSIBLE!!!
@5tonyvvvv Once again, remaining retarded to the fact that there are processes that can and do affect the handedness of amino acids is not an argument.
Scientists are always Controlling and protecting ever step of these experiments everything from nucleotide bases to arranging under artificial conditions, which are NOT plausible pre-biotic conditions!!
These scientist control every step of these experiments! They borrow and rearrange the blueprints that GOD created in the first place!!
@TheScienceFoundation Then they say Time helps, Time hurts molecules! They break down to quickly, and these atheist scientists know this! that's why they carefully protect everything! Every chemical reaction is carefully controlled!!
@TheScienceFoundation LOL.. The Miller experiments failed abysmally moron!! Racemic mixtures in any form can never be used!! Szostak starts his experiments like all scientists today with activated subunits and templates and synthesizing machines!!! His experiments have nothing to do with the origin of life!!! Keep lying like the MORON you are!!
@5tonyvvvv Actually as I've already pointed out being ignorant of the actual science is not an argument, so that means no points for you. The Miller experiment was recently vindicated in sulfur pools.
'Racemic mixtures in any form can never be used'
Once more being retarded of processes that affect chirality isn't an argument 'Szostak starts his experiments like all scientists today with activated subunits and templates and synthesizing machines'
@TheScienceFoundation That is accurate, you think Szostak just puts raw chemicals and molecules in test tubes and lets them self organize!! HAHHAAHAH!!! Every chemical reaction is carefully controlled! and INFORMATION is always taken from other sources to start these experiments!!
@5tonyvvvv It's entirely inaccurate, his study regarding protocells in thermal diffusion vents don't resemble anything you're claiming. Though no shock there I guess.
@TheScienceFoundation Szostak's "protocells" are not being created! Szostak's staring materials always consist of templates and INFORMATION taken from other living sources! Szostak is proving that it takes INTELLIGENCE to copy and borrow, and rearrange the blueprints GOD created in the first place!!!!
@TheScienceFoundation LOL..Ok szostak puts raw chemicals and molecules in test tubes and lets them self organize into protocells, all by undirected natural processes!
Szostak's starting materials and INFORMATION is always taken from other sources and he uses TEMPLATES!
Szostak has not successfully created any sort of self replicating living molecule from scratch!!!!
@TheScienceFoundation Starting materials are always a single mirror image for which there is no plausible way to get it that way abiotically.
More significantly origin of life experiments never start with undirected processes, raw chemicals and molecules are never just put into test tubes, and left to self organize.
@TheScienceFoundation It has NOTHING to do with origin of life! and abiogenesis! abiogenesis is IMPOSSIBLE!! Stanley Miller proved that almost 60 years ago!
@TheScienceFoundation Once again you are a MORON!! abiogenesis is chemically and mathematically impossible! and szostak creates NOTHING!! He borrows and rearranges pre existing INFORMATION to get his reactions going!!!!
@5tonyvvvv I'll keep pointing out that ignorance of facts such as processes that affect handedness of life and that Miller's experiments were recently vindicated is not a valid argument.
@TheScienceFoundation The miller experiment failed abysmally, it lacked INFORMATION and CHIRALITY!! You always have Racemic Mixtures! A primordial broth never produces INFORMATION, Space crystals and meteorites have never shown INFORMATION! Excesses are still racemic mixtures!! with no CHIRALITY!!!!!!
What did you mirror this garbage for? It's already been refuted on the original copy
TheScienceFoundation 1 year ago
@TheScienceFoundation Homochirality is a disaster for naturalistic origins. All amino acids in proteins are 'LEFT-handed', while all sugars in DNA and RNA, and in the metabolic pathways, are 'RIGHT-handed'. Chirality!
A 50/50 mixture of left- and right-handed forms is called a racemate or racemic mixture!!. Which life can't use!! Its what we see in nature and in labs!
Life never came about by time chance natural processes! IMPOSSIBLE!!!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv Once again, remaining retarded to the fact that there are processes that can and do affect the handedness of amino acids is not an argument.
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago
Scientists are always Controlling and protecting ever step of these experiments everything from nucleotide bases to arranging under artificial conditions, which are NOT plausible pre-biotic conditions!!
These scientist control every step of these experiments! They borrow and rearrange the blueprints that GOD created in the first place!!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv 'which are NOT plausible pre-biotic conditions!!'
Actually, Miller, Oro. et. al. have been vindicated in volcanic sulfur pools
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago
@TheScienceFoundation Then they say Time helps, Time hurts molecules! They break down to quickly, and these atheist scientists know this! that's why they carefully protect everything! Every chemical reaction is carefully controlled!!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv Actually Szostak demonstrated that membranes can and do form which can insulate organic chemical reactions.
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago
@TheScienceFoundation LOL.. The Miller experiments failed abysmally moron!! Racemic mixtures in any form can never be used!! Szostak starts his experiments like all scientists today with activated subunits and templates and synthesizing machines!!! His experiments have nothing to do with the origin of life!!! Keep lying like the MORON you are!!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv Actually as I've already pointed out being ignorant of the actual science is not an argument, so that means no points for you. The Miller experiment was recently vindicated in sulfur pools.
'Racemic mixtures in any form can never be used'
Once more being retarded of processes that affect chirality isn't an argument 'Szostak starts his experiments like all scientists today with activated subunits and templates and synthesizing machines'
That's not even remotely close to accurate.
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago
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@TheScienceFoundation Protocells Do not exist! and never will, its speculation, assumption nonsense!!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@TheScienceFoundation That is accurate, you think Szostak just puts raw chemicals and molecules in test tubes and lets them self organize!! HAHHAAHAH!!! Every chemical reaction is carefully controlled! and INFORMATION is always taken from other sources to start these experiments!!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv It's entirely inaccurate, his study regarding protocells in thermal diffusion vents don't resemble anything you're claiming. Though no shock there I guess.
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago
@TheScienceFoundation Szostak's "protocells" are not being created! Szostak's staring materials always consist of templates and INFORMATION taken from other living sources! Szostak is proving that it takes INTELLIGENCE to copy and borrow, and rearrange the blueprints GOD created in the first place!!!!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv I'm guess you haven't even attempted to read any of his work.
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago
@TheScienceFoundation LOL..Ok szostak puts raw chemicals and molecules in test tubes and lets them self organize into protocells, all by undirected natural processes!
Szostak's starting materials and INFORMATION is always taken from other sources and he uses TEMPLATES!
Szostak has not successfully created any sort of self replicating living molecule from scratch!!!!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv Of course he used material taken from other places, and of course it was an observational test.
Thus far your objections have been "He didn't created something from nothing and he did it in a controlled environment"
How do you think operational science is supposed to be done?
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago
@TheScienceFoundation Starting materials are always a single mirror image for which there is no plausible way to get it that way abiotically.
More significantly origin of life experiments never start with undirected processes, raw chemicals and molecules are never just put into test tubes, and left to self organize.
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv Actually that's exactly what Miller and Oro did, they got amino acids and purine bases spontaneously.
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago
@TheScienceFoundation It has NOTHING to do with origin of life! and abiogenesis! abiogenesis is IMPOSSIBLE!! Stanley Miller proved that almost 60 years ago!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv Once again ignorance regarding the fact that his experiments have been vindicated in sulfur pools is not an argument.
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago
@TheScienceFoundation Once again you are a MORON!! abiogenesis is chemically and mathematically impossible! and szostak creates NOTHING!! He borrows and rearranges pre existing INFORMATION to get his reactions going!!!!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv I'll keep pointing out that ignorance of facts such as processes that affect handedness of life and that Miller's experiments were recently vindicated is not a valid argument.
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago
@TheScienceFoundation The miller experiment failed abysmally, it lacked INFORMATION and CHIRALITY!! You always have Racemic Mixtures! A primordial broth never produces INFORMATION, Space crystals and meteorites have never shown INFORMATION! Excesses are still racemic mixtures!! with no CHIRALITY!!!!!!
5tonyvvvv 7 months ago
@5tonyvvvv Once again, ignoring the fat that there are processes which affect chirality is not a valid argument.
TheScienceFoundation 7 months ago