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  • Outstanding and looks like fun. Bit expensive but I imagine it lasts for about forever, especially with LED lights for growing. How noisy is it, that is my biggest question.

  • Sorry if you said in the video, but how often in a 24hr period were the lights on? I had to keep adjusting the volume. What a fun experiment never did anything like that in my schools.

  • @falloutmule

    I ran the light of the entire grow at 16 hours on 8 hours off. If the grow was just the cherry tomatoes I would dropped the light from 16/8 to 12 hours on and 12 off for the flowering/fruiting stage.

  • I love this system setup you have. But I was wondering about the water culture you use??

  • nice video but your added music is way too loud, and your speaking is way too low.

    I am trying to listen to your video at night and I have to turn the volume up and down to keep the music from getting too loud then I have to turn up the volume to hear you speak.

  • This is the future! Keep up the great work!

  • Very Cool, wish I went to that high school as a kid. Looks like lots of fun.

  • Zeitgeist Toronto approves!

  • I'm new to all of this and my friend who knows a little about growing plants indoors said that pests and disease are sometimes a problem. Have you experience any problems with pests or disease and if so, how did you handle it? Thanks for making these great, educational vids

  • Сделай листья природными,натуральными-сбалан­сируй питание и освещение,проведи анализы плодов в сравнении с обычными.

  • Interesting system. I think involving the students in agriculture should be a bigger focus in our schools. I have a garden system that has lots of promise. The garden master's bucket garden. What do you think?

  • I'm curious though....is it possible to grow fruits and vegetables without ever having to spend money?

  • Do you think the faster growth is attributed to the type of light you used or the volksgarden itself? Have you grown basil before and does it grow quicker than other hydroponic systems:)

  • why wud u grow a cabbage? waste of 6 weeks.

  • that thing is awsome, and the music was very nice

  • will this get you bigger buds?

  • @dinosaurhunter3 yes :D

  • 40 Point Plan Movie features Omega Garden Systems

    Coming to theaters soon...

  • There are quite a few variables that need to be considered in answering your question. I have tested several LED lights against T5 lights. T5's are good for vegetative growth, but they do a mediocre job of flowering and fruiting. Some of the better LEDs out there have fruited full-sized tomatoes and cucumbers and currently - a watermelon that I am filming. T5's will not fruit a watermelon, or full-sized tomatoes..... continued in the next message

  • Do you think you yield more fruit this way? rather than the conventional lighting system like a T5? or HPS?

  • @Hungry4Herb

    Now for HPS - For the volksgarden I much prefer the LED light. It has 504 1 watt LEDs with a power draw of about 420w. It produces such little heat, no need for fans, vents etc.

    It would be equivalent to about a 800-900w HPS in my opinion and it should last a good 10 years. It is a lot of light with great wavelengths that are focused in a 4 foot wheel. So if you are using it in the volksgarden or something similar, I could not think of a better light.

  • @w8mk wow, thank you for the quick response and great answer. Wow! 900 watts of HPS! Perfect. This is just amazing. I would love to try this for my herbs and veggies.. I'm sure its just a beautiful sight. Thank you so much, to you and your students.

  • @Hungry4Herb

    You are welcome and happy growing!

  • @w8mk how much for the machine and light

  • I think this is an interesting set up but I don't think its practical for many impoverished country situations. The amount of energy needed (whether its solar powered or not), the amount of inputs needed (hydro. nutrients, light bulbs, equipment), and knowledge are too high. How do you expect a poor farmer in sub-saharan conditions to get a hold of a HydroGrow light bulb after one has expired?

    I do think this is VERY practical for urban. Its good evidence we can grow our own food easily!

  • @stealtime I agree with you, however the pilot program I am building has a few phases. Phase 1 - implement hydroponic fundraising model into schools and sell produce. Phase 2 - use profits to ship aquaponic systems through a non-profit to impoverished areas where everything is grown outside in the sun. Solar pumps and aerators are not that expensive. Replicating this model in a Canadian winter is not feasible at this time, however I am worker on getting grants for a climate battery greenhouse.

  • Just out of curiosity, how many of your students realized that this would be great for growing medical marijuana?

  • @GreenTigerCA

    I am working on models and a pilot program, which I am making into a documentary to help help solve world hunger problems.

  • this is great, awesome class experiment, plus the video really demonstrated how much faster this system works, which is exactly what I was wondering. I just read a response to another user's comment, you mentioned that you're working to set up a solar powered aquaponics system to be sent to an impoverished country? I'm in Arizona and I don't have much money, but in whatever way I might be able to, I'd really love to help

  • @youalllovezakk

    I am working at setting up a fundraising model in my classroom where we will use the money to do just that. I will have a video up sometime in March showing how my classroom is making around 400 to 600 a month in fundraising efforts by selling what we are growing. I have expanded our systems quite a bit and I am in the works of developing a pilot project that is being made into a short documentary that will give people a blue print of how we can change the world.

  • you could grow the best bud with that thing

  • I'm assuming you who have made this video are the guy which is zoomed in on for 20 seconds in the first minutes of the video. it's cool that you use music you like, but i'd appreciate it if you had made it a little more silent, you can barely hear the voice and everytime there is no voice the volume just goes up immensely.

    otherwise good job!

  • @myztic123

    Nope, that isn't me. That is one of my students, I am the man behind the camera! Yes I did have some volume issues with the editing process, live and learn. Future productions will be even better.

  • @myztic123

    I forgot to thank you for the feedback!

  • Beautiful.

  • @Hungry4Herb

    Thank you!

  • Thumbs up if you think human beings dying of hunger on this rich, technologically advanced planet of ours is bullshit.

    What there lacks is not resources, but the will to change.

  • @ISMOPANAMA

    You are so right my friend. One of the projects that I am working on with my students is a development of aquaponics that can be set up very cheaply using a small solar pump. We are fundraising in our school so that we can build small scale systems that can be mailed to some impoverished community to help with hunger. I will be making a video of our project in the new year as we are still in the testing stages.

  • @w8mk well that's handy, if there is one thing the surface of this planet lacks it is a descent growing medium...

  • @ISMOPANAMA man, technology runs rampant and is tooooo affordable. this with solar panels and RO water systems could save the starving.

  • Great vid. Thanks for uploading. Did you experience any difficulties with the system? Ideas on improving it? I've been interested for awhile but recently it was on the back burner. Best Regards

  • @efortune357

    The only difficulty was a small thing that I overlooked when I first planted the system. It was completely my fault as I wasn't thinking about the laws of physics. The system must be balanced properly by distributing the weight equally all the way around the entire wheel. So when I planted it for the first time the motor, which is 4watt did not turn it properly as the weight was not even. Once I planted the whole system the problem went away. It is a very zen like system!

  • SCENESTER AT 1:00!!!

  • great video - great channel, showing all these systems and the outcome is very helpful for those of us looking to get into hydroponics. Keep up the great work - professional & informative.

  • @HeliosWorksAV

    Thank you for the kind words. Some new videos will be up very soon.

  • It's great to expose people to hydroponics. Though the Omega Garden has got to be the worst example of how to grow food using hydroponics and down right fails when it comes to growing cereal crops like wheat, oats, corn, rice, soybeans....

    Now if you want to use the Omega Garden to grow marijuana in your closet away from the prying eyes of law enforcement then your Omega Garden is great.

    What bothers me is ignorant Zeitgeist people that think the Omega is some kind of solution to feed people.

  • @justintempler

    I disagree with you on the volksgarden being the worst example. Name one system for people who have little space at home to grow 80 plants in a 4x4 space. It is a self maintaining system that needs very little maintenance. As for growing cereal crops I have never seen anyone using hydroponics for this application and it is a solution to feed people. My classroom grew 60 heads of lettuce in it in less than 30 days and we enjoyed several salad days at lunch.

  • @w8mk Raft systems are better at growing lettuce and a lot cheaper.

    New Raft Aquaponics System at Vancouver Island University

    watch?v=cSTYgpHZ3wQ

    Here's what it looks like on a commercial scale.

    watch?v=FHBhyqowSEc

    Again it's nice that you are learning about hydroponics but they've been growing lettuce using hydroponics commercially for 30 years You haven't solved any problems with the Omega.

  • @justintempler

    We have used raft systems and they do work well. I still prefer the volksgarden over the raft system in my high school classroom as I can grow a lot more plants in a smaller space. This was the attraction of the unit, what it solved was a space issue for my class.

  • @justintempler The problem solved with the Omega is the 'space to grow' problem, as well as introducing "Orbitropism" to enhance the quality of the growth, although the total growth SIZE (height of plant) is limited.

  • @wmike82 That's a very expensive way to solve a space problem. Omega sells for over $2000 compared to a raft system that I can build for about $50.

  • @justintempler time, quality, ease of growing, all these things factor in... If you have the money it's a good investment when it can pay for itself as quickly as it potentially can.

  • @justintempler Flat systems are not efficient, and greenhouses are the least efficient concepts on the planet. Greenhouses were only meant to extend growing seasons, not for year round. Adding lighting to a greenhouse is bandaids for brain cancer. Your greenhouse model at UBC uses 16 watts per sq ft surface growing area to annoy plants to keep them awake for 18 hours per day, where as the Omega uses less then 14 watts per SFSGA, and requires no sun. Watch the Farmdominium TM animation.

  • @w8mk From the University of Florida:

    Building a Floating Hydroponic Garden

    tiny . cc/ma95t

  • @justintempler I have to agree with the teacher on this one the volksgarden is an incredible tool for places like restaurants that wish to have herbs and leaf plants for on hand growing. I personally have spoken to a couple local resturants that are interested in purchasing winter crops from me because they prefer locally grown crops but usually have to rely on large chain distributors in the winter. However with this garden I could supply them with what they need year round.

  • @justintempler Well you do know that Technology like the Omega Garden does grow FOOD right?? So I would guess that the Billion people starving on this planet wouldn't be too upset with at very least having an abundance of fruit and vegetables considering they have nothing. So instead of calling people ignorant why don't you come up with technology that will grow Cereal crops without using arable land. Nobody said Omega Garden was the end of Famine on Earth. Please continue education brother.

  • @darkman2011zm "with at very least having an abundance of fruit and vegetables"

    The problem with Zeitgeisters is they repeat the dogma they've been told without even knowing if it is true

    The ONLY food crops the Omega is any good at growing are leafy green vegetables like lettuce & basil (& of those crops there are much more efficient hydroponic methods) If you had actually used the Omega you would already know that. The only thing you have done is demonstrate your arrogance & ignorance.

  • @justintempler Dogma! LOL, your an idiot bro!! And you can grow alot more than leafy green vegetables

  • @justintempler Zeitgeist isn't just promoting the omega garden. It's promoting a methodology. Using technology and the scientific method in all of it's forms to produce abundance. Technological Unemployment, google " Foxconn displaces workers with 1Million robots " will continue because other companies will have to compete. When unemployment reaches critical mass due to automation people will have to question a jobs for income economy.At the same time our productivity will be higher than evr

  • @efortune357 Nice try this is not a Zeitgeist video, I respect w8mk enough not to hijack his video to discuss an unrelated topic to his video.

  • @efortune357 that's the part Zeitgeist is right about. However central planning done by robots is just absurd and won't work.

  • @justintempler

    Your information about the Omega Gardens repertoire of plants it can grow efficiently is not complete. We have grown many leafy greens, but in addition small to medium sized fruits like tomatoes, peppers, egg plant, cucumbers, beans, peas, and many other things can be grown as well. There is a small testing, and educational facility just starting up near Vancouver Canada where many aspects of this technology will be tested. That info will be made public via Omega Garden . com

  • Amazing !!!!

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  • how does this system water the plants? how is it done so the water does not drip out of the growing media.

  • @210482fmj Those cubes they use are usually called Rockwool™ ( a brand name) It's similar to the styrofoam like substance that you get when you get a floral arrangement from a florist, It's very porous and holds water very well. So what you have in essence is a ferris wheel for your plants where the grow cubes get dipped every few minutes. One of the problems with rockwool cubes is they are not reusable so if you used it for any volume of food production you'll be generating a lot of waste.

  • @justintempler

    Yes, you are right about the rockwool and I have been searching for reusable materials for the last two years.... I would also like to find something that I could use in all my smaller systems that use the 1.5" cubes that could be reusable. Do you have any ideas?

  • @w8mk The closet thing is the coco fiber but I don't think there is a way to use it with the Omega.

    tiny . cc/lk248

  • @w8mk 'Sure to Grow' is the best growing medium to date, although I do not believe it is reusable.

  • The Zeitgeist Movement (TZM) has been showing that we have the ability to generate energy, food, housing, health and education for everyone in the world, while, at the same time, we are able to ELIMINATE OUR ECONOMICAL, SOCIAL & ECOLOGICAL CRISIS along with corruption, poverty, abuse of power, unemployment, social stratification, and other factors that hinder the life and sustainability of the planet and its inhabitants.To know more about it, watch: "Zeitgeist Addendum" - It is on youtube

    :)

    FS

  • @FactualSolutions Nobody is down with radical movements from Germany thankyou very much

  • @molamola1000 - Sure, nobody support radical movements, that's why we have zeitgeistmovement dot de on germany as part of the zeitgeist movement and over 1000 chapter around the globe.

    You are very welcome, by the way.

    :)

    FS

  • @FactualSolutions I support radical ideas. Bitter shcon.

  • @1947662 - Well, the ideias presented on TZM Movies are far from radical, we are talking just about using nowadays technology to solve the simplest world's problems, as hunger for instance.

    There is no magic here, just common sense.

    :)

    FS

  • @FactualSolutions First Definition of Radical 1 (esp. of change or action) relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough. I did not use the term radical in the popular sense that some how has that bogus negative connotation attached to it. In the true sense of the word TMZ is radical. To shed light on what has been part of the fundamental ideas of human culture for centuries is like pulling teeth. I am with you and wish I could contributeto sustainability

  • @1947662 - Hey, of course you can help, we all can. Look for your local Chapter and get together to organize Z-Day, for instance, It will happen in Mid March, worldwide.

    Time for you to be radical :)

    FS

  • It WOULD be great for weed

    but either way, I think this invention will be very important for feeding the world in the next few decades

  • Wow, great video! I have a Volksgarden but now I want to get one of those LED lights. What were your specs on the nutrient mixture? Did you change the nutrient ratios over time to compensate for the flowering/fruiting plants?

  • @arkiom

    Yes the Hydro Grow Vertical did an awesome job. As for the nutrients I can't remember what is all in there and I can't find out until September as I packed them as my school program is moving to a different school. I ran 3ml/L of the part 1 and part 2 while the plants were young and then I upped to 4ml/L. I didn't us the full recommended dose of 5ml/L as that ratio tends to cause tip burn in my lettuce. Tomatoes however would have done better at 5ml/L.

  • @arkiom

    The specs on the nutrients is a bit skewed for this grow as we only had 6 weeks to run a test before end of the school year. So we used nutrients meant for lettuce and not flowering fruiting plants. I was amazed at how well the cherry tomatoes came in using a milder lettuce nutrient mix and I didn't change it over time for this grow. I have a new test about to start with 80 cherry tomato plants! So I will take the nutrient mixtures a lot more serious this time around.

  • @arkiom

    Also, I really enjoyed using Hydro Grow's Vertical light. It worked great in the unit, actually great is a weak word for how impressed I was with how it performed. The light is solidly built and very bright. If you do go with the vertical light for the volksgarden MAKE SURE TO ORDER IT WITH 60 DEGREE LIGHTS for more intense light stream. The 90 degree will not work nearly as well.

  • Oops one more question. How did the mini bell peppers do? Did you get a harvest from those too?

  • @ASFx2600

    My school program is moving to another school and we had to shut down a few weeks early due to the move. I would have loved to have finished off the mini-bell peppers and let rest of the tomatoes grow to completion. The mini-bell peppers did flower like crazy and they developed actual bell peppers. I ended up transplanting them to a soil pots. Which is another cool thing about the volksgarden.

  • What variety of cherry tomatoes did you grow in this system? Was a small dwarf variety like tiny tim or red robin?

  • @ASFx2600

    They were an organic heirloom variety that is supposed to take 90 days according to the seed package. I don't remember the name of them.

  • What the diameter of the wheel itself? The rotation rate is once per hour? I am thinking of drawing up plans for a home brew version

  • @lionheadtube

    The diameter is 4 feet and the rotation is once every 53 minutes or so. I set the water timer for one hour as it takes a few minutes to fill the basin up enough.

  • One more question. Is there anything you did not like about the volksgarden? Did you have any challenges with it? Did you learn anything about the plant spacing for the tomatoes and lettuce?

  • @ASFx2600

    Honestly no. I loved the volksgarden! The only limits is that you can't grow really large plants like full sized tomatoes due to the room that would be needed. It was such a pleasure to work with. My favourite part of the volksgarden is how automated it is. Simple to plant, not messy, and such little maintenance is needed to keep it running. The clean up after the grow was also very easy compared to other systems. I also loved that I could grow 80 plants in such a small space.

  • @w8mk Very nice. I'd love to try one of these some day.

  • @ASFx2600

    As for plant spacing, the tomatoes did overshadow the lettuce plant directly underneath it which caused the lettuce to grow a lot smaller. I knew from the beginning that this would happen, but my students and I only had 6 weeks to do a test and we wanted to grow lettuce and we also wanted to see if cherry tomatoes would grow in the unit. The tomatoes were awesome and the amount of flowering and fruiting was impressive.

  • Awesome video. Thanks for all the work you put into this. What do you plan on growing in the volksgarden next?

  • @ASFx2600

    Our school is out for 2 months of summer holidays starting next week, but in September we are going to either try growing lettuce or strawberries in the unit. We would really like to test out flowering and fruiting plants and document the quantity and weight of our grow.

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