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  • I am puzzled why a people who have been so specifically warned about the danger to our constitution in these latter days seem to overlook the fact that of all the candidates for the highest office in the land, only one decent honest man truly supports and defends the constitution of the united States in the tradition of the founding fathers. That man is Dr. Ron Paul. Wake up elders of Israel!

  • I love how the Book of Mormon teaches so clearly how to uncover the CF's (control freaks) all around us - be it a lazy/greedy [government] co-worker, or an intense hypocrite-lover like Khrushchev.

  • @jbrabec22 I've read the book of mormon twice.... where does it teach us how to uncover CF's all around us?

  • @DieOrBlink - as you know the BOM contains countless accounts of wars, and struggles between freedom and bondage; the CF's (control freaks :) have similar attributes and patterns - Laman had pride, loved money and comfort, and so being a control freak upon poor Nephi was a way to gratify these things. Oh and the Gadianton robbers (gangs) with their secret combos and hand-signs, and their silly hypocritical oaths which they are willing to die for - there IS honor among thieves.

  • @jbrabec22 Why is it silly for the Gadianton robbers to have secret combos and hand-signs, and silly hypocritical oaths they are willing to die for? but Mormons have Secret Combinations and hand signs, and silly oaths they are willing to die for too (Temple Rituals?) and couldn't one argue that Nephi was a control freak? He did tell his brothers that he was mightier than they were and they were to obey him... Sounds like he wanted control pretty badly? Please respond

  • @DieOrBlink - Mormon rituals in the temple are good, they only serve mankind - they pack more to the stream of life if you will. I say "silly" because gang oaths/signs are so insanely hypocritical - they are bad, destructive to mankind and to self.

    No Nephi was a gentle lamb, a servant of god and all mankind (i.e. a leader) - you do not understand the BOM if you think he was hungry for power.

  • @jbrabec22 You will read in the book of mormon that he is constantly pleading his brothers to obey him, he didn't in anyway used force, only prayers and constant pleading... his grief was so great because his brothers are sinners and their father is deeply concerned about his other sons.

  • @jbrabec22 you will also read there how heartbreaking he pleads in prayer for his brothers. If I am to have brothers like that, I might have left them to condemn themselves. but he never gave up and lost hope that his brothers would change. How they beat him, how they tie him up. If I were in that situation and got loose I would have punched them heavily on their faces..or at that time. might have killed them. but he constantly saved them. showed them were they could hunt and get food

  • @Kouruu0609 no doubt! Nephi doesn't even hate socialists, he probably has pity on them much the same way a father has pity on his 12-year-old son who tries to beat other kids into submission. It really is pathetic and sad to watch socialists interfere (in vain) with their fellow mans' freedoms.

  • @jbrabec22 He was commanded. If you look at the timeline and what is happening in the other side of the hemisphere, you will know what i mean by commanded... and how not following, at that time, means getting destroyed by the hand of the Lord. His constant "interfering" is saving his brothers lives and giving them extra time to think their acts through and hopefully change. He's worried about losing his brothers' souls.

  • @Kouruu0609 I think we are having three different conversations, or something, brother. To be clear: Nephi was a freedom-lover, and, like Joseph smith, he only seemed to get stronger when socialists/communists (like Laman/Lemuel) tried to bind him.

  • President Benson must have seen Obama in vision. Obama the kenyan by the way.

  • Than the wall fell and freedom came to russia. Than the well spring of freedom is now comming to the muslims. as for CHINA AND PARTS OF SOUTH AMERICA.

  • If you sit home waiting your turn you deserve to have your gun taken from your cold dead hands.

    The Founders didn’t wait for the Brits to knock down their doors. They gathered at the green and stood up like men and they killed government employees all the way back to Boston.

    What will you do when it’s time to hunt NWO hacks, republicrats and commies(“Liberals” and ‘progressives’)?

    Don't understand? Follow my links. Read the quotes page first. Then read my column ‘Prepping for Slavery’

  • wake up dude planet X is coming.....

    

  • I'm not Mormon. He died sum 1400 years ago. As a Latter-day Saint, I believe in E. Pluribus Unum (behind the $ bill) by going to Christ Evangelical, and perhaps others' too to prove I am an undivided Christian. Though I believe in the True Church, I too also listen to Pastors & learn a lot from them.

  • Didnt you consider this to be a prophet "to the world"?... I hear lots of arrogance and a vivid chauvinism in his speech!

  • @Broctus2010 What type of chauvinism do you mean? And what arrogance? How can you take what he said, or how he said it as arrogant? I think you are mixing up arrogance with confidence/sincerity. If you experienced what he did as Secretary of Agriculture, then maybe you would experience a jolt in patriotism or devotion to the rights you have in a free country.

  • @kseismoloj 00:32 people laugh at others deficiencies, russians in this case, it sounds arrongant to outsiders. Its i sincere to say "atheist comunism is wrong" it is arrogant to make fun of others, confidence has nothing to do w/sincerity I can be lying "confidently". I appreciate freedom, but I will never impose other to be free as I'm free. LDS people need to understand that they have a worldwide org. not an USA defending system.

  • @Broctus2010 That wasn't him laughing, he was just simply saying that the Russian agriculture was in trouble, that is definitely not being arrogant. If you are going fault anyone, then fault the ones who are laughing. Also, don't you want others to be free? Wouldn't a prophet "to the world" want everyone to have free agency? Wouldn't God want everyone to be free to worship Him? He is not defending the USA, he is defending freedom. If you don't want others to be free, then you are misguided.

  • Why can't people object respectfully? I swear their are so many jerks on YouTube. I realize a lot of people might object to things but we as a country are lossing our sense of respect towards each other and that will be our downfall as a society. Christ said a house divided against itself cannot stand.

  • If you guys hate this man or hate Mormons so much then why do you watch it? I always get a kick out of Mormon haters or atheist because it seems they are so drawn to this. If you can't see a new world order agenda being pushed on the American people, you are blind. Look at the mountains of debt Obama has racked up? Look at the socialism agenda he is pushing. It's insane.

  • Very well said! I am reminded of the scriptures in the New Testament & Doctrine & Covenants testifying of person's being left "to kick against the pricks & fight against the kingdom of God!!!" I am rather amazed at those who fall away from or are obsessed with proving the LDS faith wrong! Truth is eternal, God is Eternal for that is one of His many names! His promises, whether by old prophets or those alive today, "shall all be fulfilled!" Thank God for granting us divine grace, mercy, & wisdom!

  • politicians and religious leaders are all liars... lol

  • Nothing shocking about this video. A real shocker would have been if the guy said "Saints beware, in 2001 George W. Bush will be elected president!"

  • Thank-you for posting this video, obviously the negative remarks are due to lack of education, it has nothing to due with religion. In psychiatry when others cannot obey the golden rule of if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all. It's called an inferiorty complex, where the person feels bad about themselves and feels better when putting other down. MIT is free on you-tube watch it at least an hour a day instead of trolling and get educated Thank you! Excellent Video!

  • @007jacquie I agree in your wisdom to know the truth. We have lost so many freedoms since that speech. I seen the change over the past 40 years and it is not good at all. But with my faith in Christ, I will make it to the end and see a new beginning with all those who have faith in Christ. God Bless

  • @burtontool a sort of dictatorial communism

  • @BaurakAle7 probably rhino dung.

  • I have to tell you that this was during a time when several in the LDS Church were still heavily influenced by McCarthyism. He was the politician who taught that there was a communist around every corner, etc. He was the great scape goater. He was so fear-based that he could not let go of his obsession with communism and his fear actually harmed our nation. It harmed some in the Church as well. Fear does terrible things to people and makes them do terrible things.

  • mt 24.11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

  • hmmm, well I'd hate to wake you from your blissful sleep.

  • @BaurakAle7 What? Your comment makes no sense.

  • Well Mormon haters.... it appears he was right huh?!! LDS or not the man knew what he was talking about.

  • free2bekirk: Being led around by your nose, unable to think for yourself is why you joined the military and follow the LDS faith. Loser through and through. As for kicking my ass in 4 minutes, you wouldn't get even that!

  • @free2bekirk: Just because you spent 4 years in Iraq doesn't mean your opinion carrys any more weight then any other religious freak who doesn't no shit about anything!

    And what does the Taliban and Socialism have to do with each other? Did you barely graduate from high school and thats why you had to join the military to get somewhere in life?

    Your threats just show that you are incapable of rational thought and that you need to be led around by your nose by other people.

  • If you are forced to give, its not giving, its robbery.

  • @ncschool you need to screw off a cliff!

  • @zanezapapa no matter how we try or make an attempt we can never please the hypocrites such as yourself, oh I spent 4 years in Iraq, rubber stamps such as yourself will never stand for anything except for BLASPHEMY and the foul words that come out of your filthy sewer where do we to meet me at so I can say these things to you in your face?

  • @zanezapapa COWARDS such as yourself is the reason why the TALIBAN look so great because the ALQAIDA TERRORISTS have become your role model, if we ever you better pray dearly that what ass kicking I give to you is at least 4 minutes of me showing you the difference in those who FEAR GOD and those who have taken thee pathetic steps such as yourself to SERVE SATAN

  • @zanezapapa How dare you speak that way about a prophet of God

  • @zanezapapa How dare you speak that way about a prophet of God. Show some respect! He was a prophet just as Moses, Noah or Abraham was.

  • Australia has just lost the battle against socialism and 'conspiring hearts of men in the last days'

  • @burtontool I removed my last comment. It was uncalled for . sorry.

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  • @burtontoolRussia had no health care . I lived there for 8.5 years. The so called health care was horrible. No freezing at the dentist, No toilet seats or toilet paper or working wheelchairs at the hospital. Only cockroaches by the millions and vicious cranky unclean nurses with no medicine. No foreign enemy could have destroyed a country more thoroughly than communism did. The environment,buildings,roads,mo­rals all terribly broken. Lots of rich criminal communist, bribe taking, leaders though

  • @burtontool Switzerland has a right wing party with the majority of the seats.

    America gives the most to charity as a nation. Volunteerism per capita is at 15% second to Ausi land with 18% Next in line is 7% I constantly marvel at how you blind, liberals can watch your ratings disappear like a cockroach down a storm drain and never connect the dots! It's either a death wish, or your hopeless ideology is more important to you than money or success.

  • @burtontool not true burtontool. Switzerland a socialist country. You are nuts.It is one of the most conservative countries in the world. lol Americans give the most to charity.

  • @burtontool What about my grandmother and grandfather who were killed by the communists in Russia. And where 11of their 12 sons were also killed. 1 escaped. I have been to communist Russia before the collapse of the Soviet Union and I have been their afterward. Socialism and Communism are both wrong and evil forms of government and take away all freedom

  • Great points. I just don't understand what this has to do with fan-fiction versions of ancient santa claus stories. An atheist like myself could have said most of the same things. Before you throw stones at this comment, please do a thorough reading of Thomas Jefferson's letters to his friends and familes in the months before he died.

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  • Ok, a few things about Ezra Taft Benson's BYU Devotionals that most Conservative members seem to forget. First, he was not nor ever prophet of the church when he said any of his political messages. This fact seems to be forgot often. Second, he crossed lines he should not have in giving these talks.

    Like wise, Pres. Faust was the leader of the Utah Dems and I just learned that Pres. Hickley was one too. So if you can't be a good Mormon and be a Dem, then I guess they weren't good Mormons!

  • Milo, your are trying to convey that because Elder Ezra Taft Benson [an apostle] was not the "president " of the Church his remarks are invalid. This point is irrelevant to the message. Truth is truth no matter who said it. Remember, we sustain the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators.See Saturday afternoon session of General Conference-April 3, 2010. Second, today's Democrat party is not the same as in the 60s. Radical socialist/fascist elements politically hijacked the party.

  • awesome ...

  • @TheHistoriCam,

    Prophets don't usually beat around the bush either. If they are against something, they come out and say it. The parable about teaching someone to fish has been around a long, long time. Again, to try and politicize what was said in conference is pathetic in my opinion.

  • This speech was made during the cold war. Trying to tie this to Obama is a bit of stretch. So far the constituation is still strong, no loss of religious freedom.

  • @utah801SLC We still have religious freedom, for now. The Constitution is being eroded away with Socialistic policy. Prophets speak prophetically - meaning they see things coming that we don't. Who is to say that he did not see these things coming, and try to offer a warning?

  • @utah801SLC

    dude, obama, or any other president after him, with the stroke of a pen can suspend the constitution under executive order. This without the approval of congress. Our constitution is literally almost gone. Enjoy it while it lasts.

  • @Origin305 great speech,irrespective of ones beliefs.

  • @FireYourJOB

    Just listened to him over the weekend. can you be a little more specific? maybe a link to what you're referring to?

  • Mitt Romney Will be PresiDent in 2013......

  • I watched General Conference over the weekend - no message of warning about socialism. Nothing about loss of religious freedom, nothing about Health Care Reform being the end to our constitution. Enough with the rhetoric people!

  • @utah801SLC

    u might want to listen to Elder Dallin H. Oaks........

  • @utah801SLC Did you not listen? They talked about the ills of Social justice. They also talked about giving men fish vs. teaching them to fish. The won't come outright and tell you anything political, but for those who have ears to hear, the truth is quite plain.

  • President Benson was 100% correct. Of course there are those Obama-zombies who still think socialism is cool. Go figure..

  • Nothing is "Better than Ezra".

    Sounds like a bunch of Red Scare crap.

  • moparmonster and awolasap are just lying trolls! They troll LDS videos and post their crap. Believe them not, for they are wolves in sheeps clothing.

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  • @DEFTCON3

    natural selection is for morons.  It's incorrect thinking of Men. Your day of fun in the sun is almost over. You will eat your words one day.

  • @LDSapologist71 Matthew also said ye shall know them by their fruits. "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" Matthew 7:13-27

  • @PatriotWalker76 The translation of the book of Mormon is Joseph Smiths 'fruits'. It is the word of God. The church is true, and restored, and Ezra Taft Benson was a great speaker and prophet and leader and example to the world. 

    Repent and be born again, and join the church of JESUS CHRIST before it is too late.

  • @LDS4Life71 I apologize for misleading you. What you said to me is what I meant to say to LDSap.17. I belong  to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I intended to say that the Book of Mormon is the fruit that one can read to know Joseph Smith is a Prophet.

  • @PatriotWalker76 Read the Book of Mormon, and then follow Moroni's promise. (Moroni Ch.10). Moroni says to pray and ask God for yourself. You just have to have a desire to know, faith in Jesus Christ, and prayer with real intent to know.

  • @PatriotWalker76 Amen, It is so true.

  • This video is correct, and the church of Jesus Christ stands for truth and is the literal church that Christ refounded as the Bible predicted.

  • ya know, let us all forget about religious bickering and focus on the real problem. lets unite and inform all people that are country that is based on religious freedom is at jeopardy. they want us to fight with each other so we are then more hateful of each other...let us help each other save what is ours to enjoy...America

  • @kj27208 Thank you for reminding us of the real purpose. Let's grab at least one person and bring them to the life boat.

  • @kj27208 true

  • How bout the teachings of Saul Alinsky

    Yes their great hero, its all so linked see

    We gotta stop the plot were on the brink we

    Are heading for collapse to fall at blinks speed

    CHECK OUT MY CONSERVATIVE RAP spread the word, the youth needs the truth

  • Do you guys always spat like that? It's one mor reason that I reject organised religion. Don't get the wrong idea. I believe in Jesus Christ as my savior, he and I have a very good dialog going EVERY night when I go to bed. In addition to being a Christian I am a conservative. BYU's president delivered an excelent message that I will pass on to my friends, (some LDS and some Catholic). I doubt there will be any grousing like I found here. Please keep God in your thoughts.He's there for you..

  • Benson wasn't the first one to pipe this belief. I heard it in school before Benson mentioned it.

    So, in 40 years the church has really slowed or stopped socialism? No...

  • Of course not; they can't even keep their own history straight, much less influence the spread of socialism (which just falls down all by itself).

  • This is unbelieveable. This is a COLD WAR speech. Every political leader in the nation was handing out the same speech during the 50s & 60s.

  • Agreed. This was the House of Un-American Activities-sponsored paranoia. All of that yelling and screaming about the sky falling and it sure as hell didn't.

  • Haha, maybe the cardinals went to the mormon church to perform an excercism, they probably were spray the holy water all over the mormons to try and get the demons out of them lol.

  • We don't allow men in dresses in the mormon church...heh heh

  • You have a gay fetish don't you. Seems a lot of you people the mormons bring up the topic of gays a lot. Oh maybe thats because a lot of BYU studends have come out of the closet a few years ago. Only a product of satan would trash anything of God. Keep trashing the Catholic Church, Gods going to punish you people

  • You trash your church by your own filth and disgusting behaviour.

  • I bet you're from utah, you pigs trash Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church, you wanna keep buttin heads me with me all day, I have a day off from work I'll do it, you obviously dont have a job since you're on youtube all the time.

  • Catholicism has some major problems, too. Transubstantiation is a fraud, the church's authority is suspect at best, and Mary couldn't possibly be a virgin in eternity.

  • Except I'm not Mormon; they call me an "anti-Mormon" for dissenting against their views and disputing them on a regular basis. Look at any LDS video and you'll probably find my posts.

    I'm a former Catholic who grew up strict Roman Catholic in the 1970s. I went to catechism, was confirmed, took communion, observed the stations of the cross, Lent, and Advent, and went to Catholic school for several years. No offense, but you can't tell me anything about it that I don't already know.

  • @moparmonster1965

    What is Transubstantiation?

  • Transubstantiation is the mystical transformation of the Host and wine into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus. It comes from the Roman Catholic Church's misinterpretation of Jesus' words in John 6:33-35 and 6:51-54.

    This is the so-called Eucharist and, according to the Roman Catholic Church,

    I grew up Catholic and went to Catholic school, too, but never once did I have either flesh of blood in my mouth while taking communion.

    Pretty gruesome, huh?

  • Oh no! The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!!!

    Next thing those Mormons are going to use this as evidence that their Prophets are real ones. Disgusting how the Mormon Church used Ezra Taft Benson as nothing more than a puppet in his final years.

  • I have faith, God will save us. God will save us from a man who will destroy our country & our economy. He will save us from a man will destroy our financial system. God will save us from a man will indirectly kill 20,000 of our troops. God will also save us from a man who will be so reckless, filled with lies & scandals & who will create a war that will kill hundreds of thousands of men, women & children. Hey wait, God has already done that. Bush is gone and our prayers have all been answered.

  • ha ha, quite funny, but unfortunately Mr. Obaaaama works for the same Mob that Bush worked for...

  • LDS or not, one thing we can agree on based on earthly facts Is that we are surley heading in the wrong direction today as in 1965. We just keep getting further away. May God guide us back, and away from Socialism.

  • What a prophet! The communists have won. God help us!

  • Our constitution seems to be almost hanging by a thread right now. I would agree "the days ahead are ominously frightening." Many people that I work with embrace socialism and are okay if American becomes communist. This is very disturbing that many people don't understand the history of this country and how our freedoms were obtained and just want to throw those away to some elusive collective "good." This system always fails and people lose their lives, liberty, and freedoms under communism..

  • Wow...

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  • as I said Happy...it appears. you have no understanding of two things 1) what socialism is, and 2) what is actually written in the D& C.

    What is spoken of in the scriptures is the united order, not socialism. Please do your homework.

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  • You are right...Apostles don't gain inspiration and revelation until they are confirmed President of the church.

    WHAT?!? How absurd! Don't we sustain all of the Quorum of the 12 as "prophets, seers & revelators"? If you can't see his prophetic vision in the events all around us, you must be blind!

    Socialism is just the precursor to communism and both are tools of the devil to take away agency/liberty and replace them with forced control and mandatory compliance.

  • All apostles are considered prophets, seers, and revelators in our wonderful gospel. When we sustain our leaders that means we beleive what they say comes from our Heavenly Father. They are lead by the spirit of what we need to hear and their words are living scripture. I do not think we should question the Lord, our God, or his representatives.

  • "Stand up for freedom, no matter what the cost; it can help to save your soul" 3:50-3:57

    WHAT?! I thought only Jesus could save our souls; by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8,9)

  • You dope, he didn't say freedom saves your soul, but it can help.

  • How exactly can freedom help to save a soul?

    ONLY by faith in Jesus Christ and His grace can one be saved. [PERIOD]

    This is one of the many extremely plain and precious things of the Bible that Joseph Smith contradicted in his poorly written fiction novel.

  • Two things, First, Secretary Benson was speaking about political freedom and Second, the Book of Mormon - Another Testament of Jesus Christ is 100% true. Thank you for listening. Do you serve Jesus Christ by breaking his commandments? Interesting?

  • "Another Gospel", as far as the Bible warned against receiving, yes. Another Testament, NO!

    "For if he that cometh [Joseph Smith] preacheth another Jesus, whom we [Paul and Timothy] have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit [MORONI] which ye have not received, or another gospel [BOOK OF MORMON], which ye have not accepted..." II Cor. 11:4

    Which commandment of Jesus do you accuse me of breaking?

  • Another Jesus for you maybe? But of course you don't believe in the New Testament ressurrected Christ which Jospeh Smith preached, do you? You believe in a false, disembodied, permissive, spirit lord who claims to be christ. The only 'other gospel' preached is the gospel of darkness preached by modern apsotate so-called christianity!

  • I didn't accuse you of anything. But I know that Bored Agains think its sinful to want to obey the commandments. Their permissive demonic spirit lord wants them to acknowledge Christ with their lips but make sure their hearts and deeds are far from Him. No thanks, been there, done that, its a deceitful scam. I'll stick with the real Jesus Christ who said REPENT OR YOU WILL PERISH! (Luke 13:3,5) Not one of the bored agains favorite scriptures is it?

  • You put your trust in Joseph Smith, that he was right that the Bible can't be trusted, God and Jesus are not who they are as recorded in the Bible, and that you you are going to be a god some day just like THE SERPENT'S FIRST DECEPTION IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN!!!

  • If you really are interested in TRUTH you will find that you have been beguiled my dear friend. It makes me sick that someone could intentionally pervert the Word of God so and affect innocent people who really want to please God and serve Him.

    If you are interested in knowing for certain whether or not LDS inc. has lied to you send me a message and let's discuss truth.

  • I have known the truth since 1981. I dont need your apostate falsehoods, thank-you. The true Gospel and Church of Jesus Christ was restored, as promised anciently, in 1830 through a modern Prophet. There is no salvation except through Jesus Christ and his authorized church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

  • LukeAir2008 "no salvation except through Jesus Christ and his authorized church"

    Are you serious? Salvation through something in addition to Jesus Christ??!!

    That is the heart of Joseph Smith: add to and take away from Jesus Christ and His plain and prescious Gospel as recorded in the Bible. READ YOUR BIBLE, THIS IS HERESY!!!!

  • There is no 'addition' to anything, foolish man. Christ is Lord and Saviour and he has an authorized kingdom to administer his gospel. For example Simon saw that by the laying on of hands the 12 Apostles had power to confer the Gift of the Holy Ghost So Christ, through his authorized servants administers the gospel ordinances to the Saints. When did an Apostle or some other authorized servant of Christ confer upon you the Gift of the Holy Ghost? Thats right, never! (Acts 8:18)

  • Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. (Acts 10:34-35) Now thats not the gospel that you and your fellow bored agains preach is it? You have perverted the gospel of Jesus Christ. The atonement is not for the wilfully wicked and rebellious. Its for the broken hearted and contrite who want to return to God and keep his commandments. They will be forgiven - justified and sanctified.

  • So you think salvation is by just saying a prayer? Are the demons saved? They confessed Christ as Saviour! (Matt 8:29) If you havent come unto Christ with full purpose of heart, If you havent repented of your previous sins, If you're not willing to walk in the light as He is in the light and do his will -THEN YOU ARE NOT SAVED. You are no better off than the demons who confessed his name!

  • Seriously man you are being quite wreckless and hateful in your accusations against me. I accept the Gospel of our Lord as recorded in the Bible100%... AND LIVE IT. And you question my salvation on THAT???

    No, I don't think salvation comes by just saying a prayer, neither does any evangelical Christian denomination I am familiar with.

    "Except a man be born again, he cannot see God." -John 3:3

    "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed" -John 8:31

  • I really don't think you understand these scriptures. Have you been born again? Im afraid you cant have been. As Christ explained to Nicodemus, being born again is being born of water (baptism) and of the Spirit (Gift of the Holy Ghost)(John 3:5) (see also Acts 2:38) and then comes the spiritual transformation of a natural man or woman into a man or woman of God. You're not a member of Christ's church. In fact you're an enemy of Christ and his church! Born again? I don't thinks so!

  • Actually I have been born again, baptized in water, and baptized in the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues according to Acts 2:4. I am a member of the body of Jesus Christ which crosses many denominations and congregations world-wide.

  • When you 'spoke in tongues' which language did you speak and who interpreted what you spoke. Speaking in tongues is the gift of speaking in another language. Its not the demonic babblings and mutterings that you're referring to! (Acts 2)

  • "speaking in tongues"? BS! without study, you'll never learn another language.

    All that pentecostal babbling shit, is taught to their poor children.

  • Even if you are sincere in your faith you havent followed Christ's admonition and you havent followed Peter's admonition to repent, be baptized by immersion for the remission of sins and then receive the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands. (Acts 2:38, 8:18)

  • Okay, I'm glad you brought up the baptism of the Holy Ghost. You (I assume) claim to have received this, what was the evidence of this experience? Let me guess: "Burning in the bosom"?

    Acts gives 5 accounts of people being baptized in the Holy Spirit (ch.2,8,9,10,19). In three of them (ch. 2,10,19) the believers spoke in tongues the moment they were filled with the Spirit. The account in ch. 8 it is strongly inferred, and Paul's baptism logically included this (see I Cor. 14:18).

  • Ok, I didn't realize you were a Latter Day Saint. Which Apostle or other authorized servant of the Lord baptized you by immersion for the remission of sins and then confer upon you the Gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands? (Acts 2:38, 8:18)

  • Uh since when do mormons have Apostles, they don't the Catholics had 12 Apostles, where do you mormons get off trying to mock and compete with the Catholics. Its so sick minded, good luck with trying to compete with the Holy Church made up of 1.5 Billion members to the mormons 13 million members in which only 4 million are active anyway.

  • They shun gay people ... like catholics put them in convents and monasteries...

    Oh! they do have pedophiles too.

    Oh! they ban women from priesthood too...

  • Dirtyblonde, the Catholics have never had 12 Apostles. The Church of Jesus Christ has 12 Apostles. The Catholic Church is not the Church of Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church is the church of the Roman Empire founded by Constantine. Constantine was a sun worshipper who wanted to unite the empire under one religion. He adopted what was left of chrsitianity and then grafted in lots of pagan practices and thats why you have the Holy Roman Church. I should know, I was born a Catholic.

  • Face it, dickhead the CATHOLICS HAVE APOSTLES THE MORMONS DON'T. WHATS WITH THIS SICK FIXATION THAT THE MORMONS HAVE WITH COMPETING WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

  • Thats better. Now you're showing your true colors! You're a great advert for the catholics aren't you? A foul mouth liar!

  • Hey face it YOU'RE LYING!!! I tried to look it up too and didn't find anything on that. And dont you dare tell me that I don't know computers and how to look things up, I been a computer programmer for 10yrs dumbass

  • Maybe you just cant read? Go back to first grade and start again.

  • DirtyDumbDemon, Which Saint do you pray to? Saint Lucifer? Google 'how many cardinals are there in the catholic church'. The third site down will be catholic-pages. Go to that site and then go to the bottom of the page and click on the link for the names and numbers of all catholic cardinals. There are 199. Cant you face the truth?

  • Leave it to a mormon to bring up his leader satan. Nothing shows what you're talking about, you're an asshole, another mormon asshole. Go hail your fag cock eating prophet of satan joseph smith. And leave me the fuck alone NOW you got that or will you need a new computer in about a month?

  • You better go and confess to the little man in a dress...just look for the trail of m&m's going into the confession box..

  • Dirtyblonde, if you honestly believe that the catholic church has 12 Apostles then name me them. Surely you must know the names of such important men in your church. I can tell you the names of all of the real 12 Apostles in the Church of Jesus Christ.

  • Dirtyblonde, Go to catholic-pages and you'll see that there are today 199 Cardinals in the Roman Catholic Church and no Apostles. Go to the mormon org site and you'll see that there are 12 Apostles and no Cardinals.

  • Yeah another mormon with jealousy issues over the Catholics well you know what they say a mormon jealous of the Catholics is like satan jealous of God. I looked up your bullshit and found nothing, I called your bluff, all you mormons do is lie

  • Born Again means standing in the water and being immerssed by someone holding the levitical priesthood.

    You cannot go to a school or theology and philosophy for a degree and seriously consider this authority.

    you must be ORDAINED!

  • Ordination is called of God, and not the person seeking to be called.

  • Let's discuss some BIBLICAL truth.

    When did Jesus ever mention anything in your above statement?

  • When you say Biblical truth you mean just the sixty-six books give or take a few that Constantine the Sun Worshipper and his council selected for you? I want to know EVERYTHING that Peter, John, Paul and the Lord's anointed servants today say. Not just a sun worshippers point of view.

  • So when the Holy Ghost, which is given by the laying on of hands by those who have authority from God, comes upon you, the following happens:

    A burning in the heart. (Luke 24:32)

    Commandments are given. (Acts 1:2)

    Church officers are called by revelation. (Acts 13:2)

    Earthly and Heavenly languages are spoken (Acts 2:4,8)

    Prophecy and Revelation is given. (Acts 19:6)

  • The Holy Ghost:

    Teaches you what you shall say. (Luke 12:12)

    Enables you to bear testimony of Jesus Christ (1 Cor 12:3)

    Is grieved by sin and condemns sinners. (Hebrews 6:4-6)

    Only dwells in holy people. (1 Cor 3:17, 6:19)

    Brings things to your rememberance. (John 14:26)

    Brings Joy. (1 Thes 1:6)

  • Burning in the Bosom? Once again you mock the Lord Jesus Christ, the Holy Ghost and the Saints. The two Saints who spent time with the ressurrected Lord Jesus Christ later said: 'Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?' (Luke 24:32) You know nothing of Christ or the Holy Ghost. You only know your father satan whom you serve well. You even speak in his confused tongue and then boast of it. You Poor Dhumm Demon.

  • biblical truth? besides a few geographical places and names...what else?

    That book has been so manipulated and no originals founded, so how can anybody believe? unless ... parents tradition, of course!

  • If you call youreslf a christian and think you're saved, you should watch Baptist Pastor Paul Washer's video's 'Shocking Message' or 'How Many Times Have You "Got Saved"? ' You may not like what he says!

  • I've seen it and its true. (Not that I care much for his preaching).

    Understand this though, that this kind of diversion from the Word comes when people place an extreme amount of weight on their traditions, religious organization, and leaders, while NEGLECTING THE WORD OF GOD, THE BIBLE.

    Joseph Smith would have had no followers if they had been Christians who read their Bible. And you would have to change your beliefs if you read yours! Fact.

  • And listen, your lies and false accustaions hold no water here. Joseph Smith was a servant of the Lord, an Apostle and Prophet. I don't follow Joseph any more than the early Saints followed Peter who also had the keys of the kingdom. Im a member of Christ's Church. Are you? Paul thought he did God a service by persecuting the Saints. Luckily for him the Lord personally rebuked him. When will you come to your senses? I don't think ever!

  • When President Peter preached Christ on the Day of Pentecost the men were pricked in their hearts and asked what they should do? They already had faith so he gave them Article of Faith 4, he told them 1. Repent 2, Be baptized by immersion for the remission of sins. 3. Receive the GIft of the Holy Ghost by the Laying on of hands. Have you done these things? Or do you think you can wilfully defy Christ but that he'll still save you. You deceive yourself!

  • Prophets and apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints continue to offer sage advice and counsel.

    They are literally prophets, seers and revelators.

    If only more people listened to their words, the United States and the rest of the world would be better off.

  • It is all still true! Even more so now, than ever before. We are fast approaching communism through our socialism. It may be easier in the short run, but in the long run it is enslaving.

    Our deficit and debt grows, and the so-called "Federal" Reserve (aka BANKS) own this country, and we bail them out. Why? Because they do indeed control things and people. Not a billion dollars. A TRILLION dollars.

    Why does congress sell us down this road?

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  • Good Stuff.

    On the one hand it is amazing how applicable his assesment of the world then is still today.

    On the other hand, it just goes to show that problems have always existed; we just have to be constantly mindful of them.

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