@Kirkaiya You are out of touch with reality. I have not ONCE asked you to disprove God or supply proof of atheism. I have no clue where you're getting these ideas from and why you keep hopping down the bunny trail of nonsense. Positives of atheism. The benefits to atheism. I said if you cannot defend why atheism is beneficial or superior to theism, then your comments are useless. And truely -- you cannot support atheism without insulting theists and you say *I'm* insulting? Of course.
Atheists believe there was nothing then there was something and it exploded and here we are , well when there is nothing there is nothing . Something had to always exist for us to be here , I choose an intelligent being known as GOD.
There are more atheists who come to watch these videos than Christians, thus confirming man's need for God. Atheists, it's time to repent. It's time to turn from darkness and embrace the light.
@PulpPractical I agree, atheists do seem to be interested in these videos, though they'd rather slam our faith in God rather then accept it and embrace that God does exist, he loves us. Only a fool says in his heart that there is no God, as it says in Ephesians. And 2 Corinthians 5:7 states we should walk by faith, not by sight.
@1992Cameron Yeah, they’re more obsessed with God than we are. Every atheist I’ve ever met sits around trying to justify the fact that he/she does not believe in God, yet all they ever do is talk about him all day long. They know there’s a God to whom they will be held accountable; they’re just hiding because they want to make up their own rules. That’s all it is, dude. Keep strong in the Lord Jesus, who strengthens us in all our ways.
@PulpPractical Will do dude :D haha and just think, when I saw someone replied to my comment I thought it was gonna be bad lol like the other videos by living waters I've commented on, but hey :D its good to be backed up by other christians like you my friend, have a nice day :)
@Kirkaiya Can I ask why you're here? Trying to spread the word of freedom without a god with love?
Or are you here to be cruel and insulting? Being the caricature of the antagonizing atheist..
If you have nothing positive to say for non-belief and its benefits, then keep your opinion to yourself. There is no room for being insulting and ignorant here or anywhere. If you have an opinion worth hearing, keep your temper and keep your sarcasm. Regardless of how you're treated.
@earthygreen I'm just speaking truth: that every society in history has invented gods or a god/goddess to explain things they can't understand. The Egyptians did it, the Mayans did it, the Greeks did it, and the Romans stole the Greek gods and renamed them. Your god is no different, it comes from your natural desire to ascribe "purpose" to things you don't understand.
You think telling the truth is "cruel and insulting"? Too bad for you. Why don't YOU keep your opinion to yourself?
@Kirkaiya You are not telling the truth. You are being insulting because you are ignorant of that which you detest. I have no only befriended my share of Atheists, I understand exactly why they think as they do. I can understand the inability to believe and that which they cannot witness or run through the scientific method. If it is not repeatable, ect. You can justify your tone but it is evident that you have less than honorable intentions.
@earthygreen Yes,I am telling the truth. The truth is only insulting to the ignorant. I neither detest religion, nor am I ignorant of it (I was raised as a Christian, and was the assistant pastor in my church at one point). And the word "atheists" is not capitalized, as it's not a proper noun. Atheism is not an inability to believe, it's the lack of belief in supernatural deities for which there is no evidence. Wow, you put more "wrong" in one comment than I thought was possible.
@Kirkaiya You are self-justifying your words and attitude. You are full of pride and refuse to accept criticism when you're wrong. You don't have to be religious to admit when you're more interested in insulting people who are unlike you than you are in trying to change anyone's mindset. Your ignorance is based upon your unwillingness to address belief in a deity rather than your obvious desire to be insulting.
@earthygreen I'm not "self-justifying" anything, that's just so much bloviating on your part. You say I refuse to accept criticism when I'm wrong, but I haven't been shown to be wrong about anything I've said here yet. I have not insulted anyone here that didn't insult me first, and your own ignorance of reality (and belief in a magical man in the sky who controls everything) gives lie to your claim that I'm ignorant, rather than you. There is no Zeus. There is no God. Get over it
@Kirkaiya "I have not insulted anyone here that didn't insult me first,"
Simply put, grow up. I know your tone, I know your words. I've seen them 1,000 times before. From the heart the mouth speaks. That's true whether you're "religious" or not. Like I've said before, you don't have to be religious to be a descent and mature human being. You have taken the low road simply to be insulting, not to be productive.
@earthygreen You, frankly, have been nothing but insulting, you have not offered any evidence in support of any of your assertions that I've been "wrong", or "ignorant", or any of the rest. You certainly don't have to be religious to be a decent and mature human being; sadly you are proving the converse: that even the religious can be small-minded, deceitful, petty and hateful. Let go of the hate you hold in your heart for the secular, and you will find yourself less bitter for it
@Kirkaiya I point out your arrogance and insulting words, and I quote "He's like a walking caricature of the "stupid Christian"." and you attempt to throw it back on me? I respond to your initial insult, and you claim it is *I* who has been insulting. Typical. Very, very typical.
@earthygreen Your problem is that I didn't insult YOU, I made the remark about Ray Comfort (and many Christians I know consider him an embarrassment). And then, in a very un-Christ-like move, you decided to personally insult me - on this forum. I doubt Ray Comfort has even *read* my remark, meaning there is, in effect, no insult at all. For you to then claim that it's ME making personal insults, but not YOU, is indeed very typical. Your oh-so-Christian behavior is inspiring (not).
@Kirkaiya Capitalization is your opinion. Other Atheists disagree. Grammatically correct or not.
Negro is a non-offensive word which simply means "black" in another language. Yet it is considered insulting by some black individuals.
Some Atheists have expressed the lower-a as insulting or inferior. It makes no nevermind to me. I avoid seeming insulting as to avoid senseless arguments, like yours, regarding grammar.
@earthygreen Whether other atheists agree or disagree is a moot point - the word is not capitalized, because by the rules of the English language, it is not. Atheists can claim the moon is made of cheese, that doesn't make them correct - your argument is fallacious (as even you concede with "grammatically correct or not". And for the record, it's "not". If it makes "no nevermind" to you, why not use the correct form? Oh - and false analogy to 'black' vs 'negro' by the way.
@Kirkaiya Yes, let us continue to focus on the capitalization of a word. The analogy was to illustrate whether a word is being properly used or not, some take offense to it so it stops being used. Even in its proper sense. "And for the record" - read my previous comment.
You may find yourself superior, but you still have yet to build an worthy argument against religion. Instead you maintain that your insults are valid commentary, while denying that you are simply being insulting.
@earthygreen You keep claiming - falsely - that I've held myself as superior. I have not - it's you that has acted as though you think your false beliefs make you superior, which ironically, they do not. They only demonstrate that you are part of a minority group worldwide who believes in your particular deity. As for "building an argument", as the default assumption must be that there is no god in the face of no evidence, it's you who has failed to convince that this myth is real.
@Kirkaiya "I have not - it's you that has acted as though you think your false beliefs make you superior,"
Quote me. Otherwise, you're arguing against your own strawman, and you look ridiculous doing so. I addressed the words you were using and the attitude behind them. You said insulting things. Derisive things. Then, when you rather not defend yourself, began to address the capitalization of a word. When one goes after grammar, spelling, etc -- it's a tell-tale distraction.
@earthygreen You should heed your own advice, and point out where I've said insulting or derisive things. I haven't, unless you're of the opinion that pointing out truths about the universe - there is no Allah, no Shiva, no Zeus and no Christian God - is somehow either "derisive" or insulting. It betrays a lack of faith, and a real pettiness on your part to even accuse another of something that you are very guilty of here: I believe the word that describes you here is "hypocrite".
@Kirkaiya Again -- "He's like a walking caricature of the "stupid Christian"."
You get shown that you are not offering any substantive argument, rather throwing out simple-minded insults and instead of offering an argument, you claim you have a good reason to insult others. Continuing to try to change the subject of my comments to you, doesn't change the fact that your insults have offered nothing to the topic.
@earthygreen And here you go again - trotting out the *one* comment I made - directed at Ray Comfort, not you, btw, and use that as your reason for writing multiple personal insults directed to me. Are you Ray Comfort? No? Then I didn't insult you. Your writing shows a level of contempt, disdain, and ignorance I do find consistent with Ray Comfort's rantings, though.. neither of you embodies even the remotest shadow of what Jesus taught, you know that right? You're a lousy Christian
@earthygreen You want quotes? Here are a few choice ones from your comments:
You called me "the caricature of the antagonizing atheist", and told me to "keep your opinion to yourself" (contrary to the entire spirit of a discussion forum, I might add). You said of my atheism, that "you are ignorant of that which you detest", which is insulting, and a lie both (as I pointed out afterwards). You write "I understand exactly why they [atheists] think as they do" (but you don't).
@Kirkaiya many a decent and mature person will stand before Jesus guilty of rejecting him . The price is losing their eternal life with him , a choice they made , which they have every right to do so.
@Jayteah1953 The problem is that Jesus, whoever he was, died two-thousand years ago, and was a man, not a son of a supernatural being. Therefore, no one - decent and mature or otherwise - will ever again stand before Jesus. There is no such thing as "eternal life", and thermodynamics provides a convincing proof of this. If I told you that you have the right to stand before Zeus and Hera, and be judged by them, you would reject the Hellenistic religion as false (rightly so).
@earthygreen Prove to me that my comment is based on an assumption. You can't. And you did tell me to, in effect, "shut up"; the fact that you say that I should only post if I have some content that meets YOUR criteria for "something to offer" is consistent with the type of censorship I'm sure you'd love to put in place to muzzle the truth. The facts remain- you have been insulting to me from the get-go, which I've only recently returned in kind. And you do NOT understand atheists.
@earthygreen (cont.) Pretending to have perfect understanding of why atheists don't share your beliefs is arrogant (and false in this case). You wrote that "I can understand the inability to believe and that which they cannot witness or run through the scientific method". That's also insulting and false - many atheists neither know nor care about the scientific method, they simply have no irrational belief in gods. You write "you have less than honorable intentions". Insults again.
@Kirkaiya It's very simple -- when you INSULT people by calling them STUPID, you do not have honorable intentions.
If you understand the English language, you can see where I wrote "..which they cannot witness...". I have spent quite a lot of time studying religion and learning from the religious and irreligious. I have yet to meet an atheist who threw off belief in God without researching. The majority of atheists I've met are incredibly brilliant and hold evidence in high regard.
@earthygreen Stop lying - that's one of your 10 commandments. I didn't call YOU "stupid", I didn't even call Ray Comfort stupid, I said he was a walking caricature of the stereotype of the "stupid Christian". You are not Ray Comfort, therefore I didn't insult you. Your failure to understand this is wholly consistent with your failure to act as Christ would have, and instead to demonstrate to all that your so-called beliefs don't run very deep.
@Kirkaiya You are not standing with the majority at this point. I have toed the line of atheism and welcomed any and all challenges to the belief system I was raised in. If it was of any merit, it would withstand questioning from the harshest of critics, right? I've heard some incredibly compelling questions and arguments. Very compelling. I don't expect every atheist to live up to those standards, but I do expect concise responses; forgo self-defense and present your best objection.
@earthygreen "standing with the majority"? LOL. 1st: the truth is not determined by majority. 2nd: Christians are a MINORITY of people on Earth. 3rd: I was raised as a Christian, was an assistant pastor in my church, and know from experience the power of the god delusion. 4th: atheists don't have anything to "prove", we lack belief in any gods, just as you lack belief in all gods but one. You claim your god is real, the burden of proof is on you.
@Kirkaiya 1st - I was talking about my experience. Is english your first language or are you dyslexic? You *can* read can't you? THE MAJORITY THAT I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET.
2nd & 3rd What are you talking about - and why?
4th Did I say you had anything to "Prove"? Please, do quote me where I said you had to PROVE anything. :-)
I said if you didn't have anything BENEFICIAL TO SAY ABOUT NON-BELIEF then keep your opinion (insults) to yourself.
@earthygreen I think it's evident to all that I'm more fluent in English than you; your repetitive grammar betrays either an inadequate education. But nice try at yet *another* ad hominem, which you seem to be unaware is a fallacious argument. You ask what I'm talking about - I don't intend to dumb down my comments further. And you lie again, saying "...anything beneficial to say about non-belief", but of course, you didn't say that, I would paste your quote in, but to what end? LOL
The best you have to offer are empty insults and ignoring the fact that insults are all you have to offer. Bring some substance to your next comment. Maybe you could.. oh.. I dunno, say something positive about non-belief rather than insulting theists. Unfortunately, I doubt you have the capacity to do anything but antagonize and be petty.
@earthygreen You misunderstand - I'm not trying to insult you. And you don't quite grasp the concept of the "comments" section for a video (I commented on the video, you have only insulted me). I'm glad you continue to write- I want every person with wavering belief to see just what kind of person claims to be "Christian"; you're the best example of a hypocrite I've seen on YouTube. And you still don't understand logic, you're asking for positives about non-belief, LMAO. Really?
@Kirkaiya I understand what you're attempting. Perfectly. But you would rather believe yourself superior in all matters. I'm sure I'm the best example of everything you detest, simply b/c you are currently attempting to insult me at this time. The next person you argue against, you'll say the same thing. As I'm sure you've said this to others before me.
@earthygreen You obviously don't understand what I'm doing since you repeatedly mischaracterize it and (no surprise) continue your litany of insults. Your insults merely betray your pettiness, and lack of a logical rebuttal to what I've pointed out. And no, you're not "the best example" of anything I can think of, least of all what I detest (I pity your lack of understanding, but detest you? That's really silly). Please continue your troll-like rants, you discredit religion for me.
@Kirkaiya Again -- you are without support for the benefits of atheism so you turn around my criticisms and accuse ME of that which you've done. Okay.
I don't discredit anything for you. You are a thinking individual. Clearly you disagree with religion in the first place. If I washed your feet and served you for life in the name of Christ you wouldn't believe in Him. It's rather flattering I hold that much weight in your belief system. Or NON-belief.
@Kirkaiya I can link you to many atheist YouTube channels who will tell you quite extensively of how positive atheism has been for them and its benefits. They can even walk you through, step-by-step the emotional stages of abandoning your particular belief system. And they're quite accurate! Don't throw your humility away just yet, Kirk.
@earthygreen You seem to think that I care what you can provide links to vis a vis atheism. I don't. If you cannot provide evidence for your god, then you haven't a leg to stand on. In fact, of the last 1,000 gods that mankind has invented, you're basically an atheist regarding 999 of them (you think they are untrue). I've simply gone one more, and disbelieve the last one as well.
Millions of children are made happy by Santa every year. Santa is imaginary. Ditto for god.
@Kirkaiya Who said anything about me proving God exists or me asking YOU to DISPROVE his existence??? Where are you GETTING this inanity from? Can you PLEASE disengage from the mentality that I'm asking you for proof?
I *SAID*, yet AGAIN, that if you can only insult theists then you are only here to troll. If you have anything positive to say about the benefits of atheism v theism that's one thing. But being insulting is worthless. Try offering why atheism is preferrable to theism.
@earthygreen Do you seriously have difficulty comprehending what I'm saying? Wow, it's like I'm talking to a wall. Since you seem to like CAPS, I'll try that: I DON'T CARE that you want "positives" about belief vs non-belief. That has NO BEARING ON THE TRUTH. And - once more, with feeling - the TRUTH IS NOT AN INSULT. It's just the truth. It's not about whether theism is "preferable" to atheism, any more than "belief in Santa" is preferable to not. There IS NO SANTA. Get it?
@Kirkaiya I don't want you to give me positives about anything. But your insulting comments are not warranted. You call Christians "stupid", that's an insult. Again, very simple to understand. It's not "the truth" as you keep focusing on your Non-belief of any god. Which is probably why you're having trouble admitting that your comment is insulting. You would rather ignore it than admit...that yes, you are insulting. Which is useless in any debate.
@earthygreen First you want me to give you positives, and now you don't. You are lying (a SIN) yet again by saying I called Christians stupid, when I NEVER DID (I dare you to quote me calling Christians stupid - I did not, I said Ray Comfort was like the stereotype of a "stupid Christian", meaning one of the Christians who is stupid - and yes, some Christians, like some of every group, are stupid). All you do in insult, but you lack reading comprehension. The truth is not an insult.
@earthygreen No, I'm not "reaching", unless you consider telling the truth to be 'reaching' (which would seem fitting, since you already told a lie, and refuse to admit it).
Face it - I never called Christians stupid. I said Ray Comfort was becoming a caricature of "the stupid Christian" (a stereotype that applies only to those so blindly in denial of reality that they go around convinced that the world is 6000 yrs old). That's not an insult to you, or calling all Christians stupid
@earthygreen Even that ("believe as you wish") does not seem, to me, possible. I don't think humans have much capacity to consciously change what they actually believe; for example, could you *really* believe the Earth is flat if someone offered you a billion dollars? Not just *say* you believed it was flat, but really believe it? I doubt it. I doubt you could believe in Zeuss if you wished to, either. There is no god, as much as I do wish there was one. My wishes are not relevant
@Kirkaiya Well, I was referring to me. Believe as you wish about me. But why would you want to believe in God?
I wanted to believe in God, but I had to hear every question anyone could come up with about God's existence. Listened to Dawkins and the late Hitchens (Who I did give a place on my facebook to pay my respects). I stuck solely to atheist writings and opinions. For a couple years. I do understand. But I understand both sides of it. Nearly fully.
@earthygreen Of course I *wish* there was a god (not the Muslim, or Christian god, but a truly benevolent one), for a variety of reason. But again - based on your prior comments, you never fully understood how many atheists think, and why they lack belief - not just in your god, but any supernatural deity. I was a devout Christian, until I figured out the truth. I understand from *being* Christian. If you were not actually atheist, you don't.
@Kirk - I know you may not be able to grasp my own understand of atheism, but that's neither here nor there. It's difficult for one person to tell another how they thing and to what depths they understand. Especially after a dozen or two comments on a video. I know what non-belief is. I know what it looks like. I know what it feels like. I don't question your dedication to Christianity, but I do question what you've been through and what brought you here. For me -- it wasn't dramatic.
@earthygreen - I can't grasp something that isn't there, and if you've never been atheist, you don't understand it. Judging by your comments about atheism, it's *very clear* that you don't understand the reasoning of many atheists (scientific method? LOL). You dismiss this, but it's key - you don't actually understand. That you know what non-belief IS doesn't mean you understand it. Insight doesn't come from short comments on YouTube. Atheism predates science. There is no god.
@Kirk -- I understand atheism. Again, believe as you wish.
Do you know what the scientific method is? Simply put - if it has no evidence and it cannot be tested, it cannot be proven. Therefore belief is unwarranted. In a nutshell.
Is it not the majority of Atheists perspective that because there is no evidence for God, that He doesn't exist? I'm not sure why you find lack of evidence as funny.
@earthygreen You keep repeating, "believe as you wish" as if that meant anything more than an acknowledgement on your part that you have no point to make, and can list no reasons for what you believe. Your definition of the scientific method is wrong - the method is Observation, Hypothesis, Testing/Experimentation, and Conclusion. I worked in a physics laboratory, I have zero doubt I'm more familiar with it than you. Again, the word atheist is not capitalized.
@Kirkaiya Believe as you wish -- You keep insisting you are correct when you are not. You are insistent that you know what I understand or don't understand.
Also -- "in a nut shell" is pretty explanatory. I know the steps of the scientific method. If there isn't any evidence and it cannot be tested, it cannot be proven.
I was quite familiar with a man who boasted he worked in a science laboratory at a large university. Turned out he cleaned animal cages. :-)
@earthygreen "cleaned animal cages" - in the particle physics lab in which I worked as a staff engineer, we had no animals. Nice try (yet again) to insult me. I am only insisting that you do not understand why many atheists are atheist, because you insist on repeating false reasons. You didn't give the scientific method "in a nutshell", I did. You gave only one small piece of it - evidence. I also insist you lied by saying I called all Christians stupid, when I didn't.
@earthygreen (continued) As to your question of why most atheists are atheist, its because atheism is the null hypothesis. Why do you not believe in Zeus, Hera and Poseidon? Why don't you believe in the Roman gods? The god Thor and his hammer? Why not the myriad gods of Hinduism? Is it the scientific method that makes you doubt 999 of 1,000 different gods? I doubt it. My disbelief merely extends to 1 more god - yours.
@Kirkaiya As a matter of fact, that's exactly what I've been doing the last 10 years or more. Exploring the claims of religions and measuring them for their veracity.
@earthygreen You've spent 10 years "exploring the claims of religions and measuring them"?? LOL, that is total b.s. There are no fundamental claims of any religion that are TESTABLE or MEASURABLE, so you have wasted 10 years. Claims of an afterlife, or non-disprovable entity cannot be tested (unless you kill yourself, testing the afterlife claim). I have traveled thru India, my wife is Buddhist. None of the major claims can be tested. Talk about "boasting" about complete nonsense.
@Kirkaiya As a matter of fact, yes, there are claims that are testable in all religions. Many claims. I find it odd that you keep insinuating that you're educated, yet you don't give any credence to facts of reality. You make me suspicious of just who you really are behind the statements that you're making. What you're scoffing at doesn't match up with your high-regard for your own intellect. You're inconsistent, friend.
@earthygreen *yawn* Your own insinuations (now you insinuate that I'm "not educated", lol) are getting boring. And of course, you lie again - I didn't claim there were zero testable claims, I said "There are no fundamental claims" that are testable, and this is obviously true - if not, the claims would have been tested long ago, and all people would be of one religion. As for your opinion of my intellect, or your "suspicions", I just don't care. Your mediocrity is beyond banal.
@Kirkaiya Wow -- that is one of the most arrogant and judgemental pact of sentences I've seen in a while. I guess someone questioning your self-proclaimed intelligence is a knife in the gut, eh?
You call me a hypocrite yet display yourself as one for all to see.
I think I shall demonstrate superior wisdom and shake this dust from my shoes. When a person becomes malignant -- I know they've lost all perspective of the discussion. Yours is long gone. Farewell, Kirk.
@earthygreen *yawn* And yet again with the "WOW!" bit. Don't you get bored writing the same snarky yet pointless drivel? As I said, I don't care what your opinion of my intellect is - one of us must, by nature, be more intelligent, and I think it's clearly me. Yes, you are a hypocrite, no, you don't believe in Zeus, or Quetzalcoatl, and no, it's not because they fail to make testable claims. You're just another bigot who thinks his own religion is "best". You're wrong. There is god.
Hey, instead of judging other people, why don’t you start with yourself? I mean, I’m sure you have also stolen something when you were a kid, so you are also a thief. I’m pretty sure you do (sometimes) look at woman in a sensual form, so that makes you perverted to God’s eyes, I’m sure you have tried alcohol, so you’re an alcoholic, come on, you seriously have no idea about God, religion does not influence into God. The bible is just a path to follow and serve God.
@ArmadaRanger You're missing the point, Ranger. He's not judging. He's not saying he HASN'T done those things. He knows he is corrupted at his core and he knows Jesus is the only way to Salvation. But other people deny that in themselves. He's simply revealing the truth before their eyes and offering them to take up the path to Salvation. None of this is done with malice or enmity.
Is this whole illogical and rather childish "what do we call a person who lies" schtick Ray's only schtick? I mean - is that it? He's not aware that "stealing" something when you're a child isn't equivalent with being a "thief", or that telling your wife she looks great in a dress (even if she doesn't), doesn't make a person "bad" or a "liar"? Does anyone actually fall for his 7th-grade attempt at logic??
@Kirkaiya Kirkaiya...he uses the law to remind us that God sees us as sinners and the only thing will save us is trust in Christ. The point is that minute we are born, we are already judged and waiting for our prison sentence. Yes, you are right, lying is not as serious as Killing someone. To God it is his law and we must obey it! There is no other way! You must worship Christ and believe in him!
@MrMfloor If you think Ray Comfort is doing the image of Christianity *any* good at all among non-believers, you're very wrong. He's like a walking caricature of the "stupid Christian". I applaud him for probably creating more atheists than even Dawkins, lol
As for your god, his law and your claim that I "must worship Christ" - no, I don't, and I won't, because he's a myth, and it's all in your head. You can pray to a brick and have the same result. There are no gods, sorry.
@Kirkaiya It's not a schtick. It's biblical. Ray Comfort didn't invent it.
People will justify their actions which is self-righteousness. A lot of people who dislike 'religious' people claim christians act self-righteous, when in FACT, it is the one denying their own sins who justify their actions who are self-righteous. The Christian is very often self-denying and recognizes they are wholly depraved before God.
WOTM teach works salvation according to the bible, here is 100% proof:
Jonah 3:10 And God saw THEIR WORKS, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
It says God saw "their WORKS" they they turned from their evil way (sins), and in the same verse it says God himself repented...it doesn't mean turn from sin, WOTM are 100% fake phony works salvation, self righteous pharisees. Dont trust them, trust KJV bible
@webbk123 We're not born sinners, we are born as babies. It is when we knowingly commit sin that we become children of wrath. Children that are under the age of accountability do not go to hell when they die. The bible says in Matthew 19:14: Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." This paints a picture of what you can expect in heaven. There are over 4000 abortions every day in the USA. Babies to to heaven
LIKE this video. Ray reaches out to the lost so they might be saved. Religion by man is no good. "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." James 1:27
Saying the lords name in vain is NOT blasphemy. Its exactly what it says. "taking his name in vain". I am not disputing the fact that it is a sin. The bible says no sin is greater than the other.
@polopowers1 It doesn't look like it was a consecutive order man. So are you saying don't repent? Or just trust Jesus without a contrite spirit? It's two sides of the same coin, you cannot have one without the other. Jesus said, "Repent and believe the gospel" Repentance of sin is a turning from it, but to what/who? To God....That's where the believing the gospel comes in. It's good news. And that's GREAT Theology!
Repent say your sorry and the SECOND thing you do is receive Jesus. HUH! Jesus is not second to saying your sorry that is nonsense. There is no prelude to Christ. Man cannot be total flesh and repent to be in Spirit, that is heresy.
I've noticed a trend in all of these videos. Nearly every time he asks someone "When are you going to repent?" they say "Well, someday..." - This speaks volumes about how people view religion. They want you to think they are religious - they tell you they believe it, but if they really truly believed in hell they wouldn't hesitate. If people really believed in the Bible they'd read it every single day, and they'd live their life like nothing else mattered. They don't. Because it's silly.
Hey this is great. They are all great. Just one concern. All this talk about the commandments got me thinking. What about the 4th commandment? You know that one about keeping the Sabbath Holy.
Does God require us to repent and turn from breaking that commandment. If yes, then that would mean..............
@drwhitelight111 My friend, What is her self worth? She has admitted to being a liar, thief, adulterer and murderer. Do you see ANY self worth there? He is showing her who she is through the eyes of God and giving her a way out of that prison. Because God is "Just", HE wont sugar coat the truth to make a sinful heart feel better in its sin. If you see this as madness, you may be conformed to the world more than you think!!! I hope to see you at the top!!!
It is so wonderful to see people come out of false denominations such as Catholic, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Church of Christ, Mormon, SDA, JW, UCC, etc...... and come to the REAL Jesus Christ. I pray that this lady has Repented and Truly Trusted the Saviour. AMEN!!
I am trying to understand what you are saying, i mean yes Mormons, JWs and even Catholics have false doctrine. However are you claiming that all denominations are wrong except for your specific one? There are little differences but nothing when it comes to salvation, there are plenty of denominations that believe Jesus died and that it is only through him we are saved. Saying that only one denomination of Christianity is going to heaven is very cultist.
@BenjaminWirtz No. If they truly follow the Bible, then they are fine. Read my statement of faith on my page. I cover that there. And yes, the denominations believe different things about salvation. Nothing is little when it come to truth. One Lord, ONE FAITH, One Baptism. Thanks.
"I firmly believe that Arminians, and those in between Arminianism and Calvinism, are True, Regenerated, God Loving, Heaven-Bound Christians. At the end of the day, we both preach that same message of truth; Repent and Trust in Christ! Arminians and Calvinists need to learn to work together and to love one another."
I was trying to say something similar. What form of Methodism do you support because there are some that are quite liberal.
@BenjaminWirtz Sir, should you have read my whole statement of faith you would find that I am conservative, in fact, I am anti-liberal. So, what would the logical conclusion be? Yes, many Methodists are liberal. Many Moravians, Baptists, Presbyterians, etc... are also liberal. But there are still many of us who stand for the Bible and its conservative values. There are many United Methodists who are still conservative. BTW, if you now have a problem with my channel, send me a message.
@fellowservant34 have you ever told the truth? then you are a truth teller, any bad thoughts? = sins, really??? we are not allowed to use brains is not like you can hurt somebody with your mind, you call that free wil???l we are capable to think but is a sin? it's all about god,s way or the highway, me or hell is that a reasonable option? is that fair? it's like a guy with a gun the money or your life ? choose.
@jaca1 Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace.
The reason you think evil thoughts are no big deal is because you don't understand the perfect Holiness and righteousness of God. God is so good that he's going to punish sin wherever he finds it. But he also offeres grace. Even though we cannot be perfect, God has made a way for us to be seen as perfect in Christ Jesus.
What's wrong with choice? Choosing is a byproduct of freedom.
@fellowservant34 so human sacrifice is percfectly ok in the eyes of a perfect holly god? i simple you are forgiven would' ve been ok for me, but not for him he needed his son killed now thats love or just sick? and read the whole bible not just the nice one parts.
@jaca1 Jesus Christ is God incarnate therefore God is providing the sacrifice for us, not some poor unwitting human as you seem to think. Acts 20:28 ...the Holy Ghost (God) hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Secondly, God is a God of justice. A judge clearing lawbreakers without penalty is corrupt and unjust. However, in Gods' omniscience, he made a way to satisfy both his justice and mercy...the cross of Christ!
@fellowservant34 bible endorses slavery, killing and othe inmoral things but you just ignore all that and how can god be justice when he forgives all things but one, you know which one the worst of all the most inmoral and evil thing that you can not be tolerated is....BLASFEMY. in my eyes there's nothing any human can do to desrve being tortured for ever.The punishment should fit the crime thats just justice."Be my slave or burn for eternity" are those my only 2 options? let me think about it.
USE YOUTUBE TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL: God came to the earth as Jesus Christ to live a sinless life worthy of being able to defeat death and paying our price as a sacrifice for all the sins each and every one of us has committed against a just and holy God. He suffered the punishment/wrath of God for all of the worlds sin while he hung on the cross. Place your trust and faith in him. Believe in him and repent of your sins. Once you are truly saved, you become a new creation
I don't think Ray should put such an emphasis on repentance. It really confuses people because they mistake it for doing good works to earn their salvation, rather than simply believing.
@GodLovesUs100 I know, but that in no way addresses what I said. What is your solution to keep people from getting repentance confused with earning your salvation?
@digifreak10101 Well they need to know, I wouldn't say it would be smart to keep it from them.My opinion is that one should take the time to explain to them what repentance is and show them that salvation is by grace through faith alone, not of works.Godly repentance comes from God.So just take them through the scriptures and let the Lord's will be done.
@GodLovesUs100 I agree, I just don't think Ray does a very good job at clarifying that. In this video he says repentance is a continual lifestyle. To the unchurched non-believer that implies that it's dependent on works and takes emphasis off grace. I guess I would just be more careful with my choice of words.
@digifreak10101 Well yeah so maybe we should just take time to explain how this is not earning salvation.One way to put it is by showing that if you truly repent now for your sins, you will continue to do so as you walk and grow in your walk with God.Also too make sure to clarify that godly repentance comes from God,it's not something we produce on our own.But I think it's good to talk about these things.May the Lord Jesus bless and edify you my dear friend, God bless and keep you,Peace
I want everyone to see the respectful tone Scottles and I have here. We are not arguing. We are exchanging ideas. Though we may disagree on a point, we show respect to one another. I pray God reveals the truth to both of us...
i find something pretty wrong with Rays theology. He's saying to steph if she repents and trusts Jesus, then she'll be born again, as if the power was hers to regenerate herself. I think it is more accurate to say if God has regenerated Steph and has granted her saving faith then repentence and faith will be a fruit of conversion, not a cause of it. What are YOUR thoughts
@Scottles293 To come to Christ, one would have to recognize something is wrong. So repentence and faith come at the same time, but are not one time events. You don't stop repenting nor having faith. All repenting means is to turn from sin, which would be a natural reaction to being born again. But even before accepting Christ, there would be no point in having faith in Christ if you continued to live the same way as before.....continued
God did His part but we have to do ours. Our part is NOT working FOR salvation(as in works based religions) but accepting the gift of Christ and repenting(which is the super-natural outcome of accepting the gift---being born again). If someone leaves a gift on your doorstep, it does you no good. You have to bring it inside, open it, and accept it. Same principal :) Hope this helps explain what i believe Ray was saying.
@giantsfan245 so people who are dead in sin, who dont seek God, who have hearts 'as stones', must make the free will choice to seek God, be born again themselves and receive His forgiveness . In other words God cant save anyone unless we give Him permission first?
@Scottles293 In a sense yes. Paul called himself a bond servent to Christ. That means Paul chose to serve Christ. Remember Rev. 3. Jesus stands at the door and knocks. He doesn't pull a Rambo and kick in the door. When we see salvation as a relationship, it must be two sided. It's not that God can't, but that love cannot be forced. I am not denying God's sovereignty, but I am not also denying man's responsibility to respond to God's wonderful gift. I hope that makes sense. :)
@giantsfan245 Revelation 3 is talking about Christ and one of the churches, not a mans heart, its dangerous to take verses out of context. And pauls experience of being thrown down before Jesus on the road and being told what to do doesnt really show Jesus offering him the choice. read Ephesians 2 it shows a pretty clear picture of mans ability to do good and choose God, and what God must do before we "make ourselves born again'. It says God makes us alive while we were still dead in sin.
@Scottles293 Rev 3 is Jesus talking to the Church of Laodecia(sp?) but can be applied to us as well, otherwise it would be of little use to us. I think you are over emphasizing God's role while overlooking ours. God does the hard part(He died for us)...we just have to accept it. The road to Damsacus was not the only part of Paul's conversion. Paul could have said no. Neither love nor a relationship can be forced
@giantsfan245 is stopping your child from running out on the road unloving because you dont respect her 'free will' to do so. It doesnt matter if that one particular verse only has one meaning, there are thousands of others that we are meant to read without reading into something thats not there. Yes Jesus died for us, but does His sacrifice actually save or does it only make salvation possible? If the difference between being saved and rejecting the gospel is ultimately something we do while...
@Scottles293 No it is not unloving, but you do not force them to love you. You do not force them to choose to follow you...I will wait for you to finish you thought before responding to the second part.
dead in sin (still in the flesh) then the flesh doesnt just profit something, it profits everything. And it means that someone who has chosen to follow Christ can point the finger at unbeleivers and look down on them because YOU made the right decision and they didnt. I agree that there is eagerness and longing to recieve Christ and His forgiveness but this can only be after God has quickened us and made us alive to Spiritual reality (God removes heart of stone and gives heart of
@Scottles293 I think we will have to agree to disagree. I respect some Calvinistic ideas but differ on this one. Oh, it doesn't mean we look down on anyone. Instead we want to share the good news with others, so they can choose. I do believe God softens the heart prior to accepting him but ultimately the choice is ours.
@Scottles293 Yes, I do believe every single person who ever lived, who was old enough and mentally able, actively has the choice of accepting or denying Jesus, whether looking forward(OT) or during/backward(NT). I'm not going to get into 'what about the amazonian in the rainforest' discussion...that's a different discussion...In other words, no one is denied access to God's salvation....someone flagged as spam so not sure if I should have replied....
flesh - somewhere in ezekiel). that is why someone will come to Him and recieve forgiveness and why someone will laugh and think of the cross as foolishness.
@Scottles293 Ok, I see what you are saying. In one sense, yes God knows who will accept the gospel and who won't. Therefore God may soften the heart prior to accepting Jesus. But I still think the Bible teaches man's part in salvation, the accepting of the gift. Either way, I thank you for this debate. We are siblings in Christ and can agree to disagree on certain points. May God make the truth evident to both of us.
ok so Jesus has paid for everyones sin, then why do people go to Hell? if Jesus has paid their penalty and therefore God sees everyone as innocent, why do people still go to Hell? Because they didnt recieve the gift???
@Scottles293 Yes. If you are are drowning, and I have paid for a life saving device and offer it to you, you still have to take it. The price is paid but it is faith in Christ that makes us innocent in God's eyes. His righteousness. His blood that covers our sin. It is by grace we have been saved(the cross) thru faith(our part), this is a gift of God, not of ourselves. Our faith, that we have, is a gift(we did not earn it).
@giantsfan245 lol sorry, in one breath you say that ultimatly the choice to come to Christ and be forgiven is ours, but now you say that faith is a gift? do you see how unjust that is? If Jesus has paid in full the penalty of everyones sin then why are people still going to be held accountable if their debt has been paid. Its like saying someone paid my fone bill but im still gonna cop a massive fine if i dont go to the billing place and ask for leniance (cant spell lol)
@Scottles293 It's more like someone paid for a new house for you but you chose not to accept it. Faith/grace is a gift, but our job is to accept it and use it. The righteousness is available but not applied until it is accepted, but that doesn't mean the debt has not been paid. If I paid your phone bill, you could always say "Hey, I didn't authorize that" and they would remove the credit. Thus us the folly of rejecting Christ. God paid our debt and men reject it.
@giantsfan245 ok so the cross of Christ is utterly useless untill we add our powerful faith to it? it makes no difference if men dont accept the gift, if their sin has already been paid for then it has been paid for and Christ's sacrifice was ultimatly a failure if u beleive that God is trying to save everyone
@Scottles293 To be seen as innocent you must be washed by the blood of Jesus (believing and repenting). Yes, Jesus died for all but it is each individuals choice to accept or reject His sacrifice. Jesus died for all so that all would have that chance at redemption. If He hadn't died and rose again then we all would go to Hell. Jesus made it possible so that those who love God can be with HIm forever in Heaven. People go to Hell because they refuse to believe in God and refuse to repent.
@aandrgarrett Jesus died for all? If He has paid the penalty for every single persons sin then no one will be going to hell. If God does send people to hell in this light, He is unjust as He is punishing sin that has already been paid for. Jesus made it possible for those who love God?? the Bible is clear that NO ONE seeks for God. There are none who do good, no not one. If God saves sinners based on our view of Him before he saves us then NO ONE is going to be saved.
@Scottles293 I know what Romans 3 says. Do you know about propitiation and justification? The propiation of Jesus' sacrifice means that His blood was a perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world, but in order to have the full benefits of that propitiation we MUST accept that sacrifice and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Whereby, through saving faith we are justified and declared righteous. A man who has murdered will not go to Heaven unless he accepts what Jesus has done for him & repents.
@Scottles293 Christ's death was the only means of satisfying our Heavenly Father's righteous law. God can remain just (punishing the wicked) and still declare sinners to be righteous through the blood of Jesus. Jesus is the ONLY WAY.
@aandrgarrett yes justification happens when God declares us to be righteous through the righteousness of Christ. So do you believe that saving faith is a gift or is it something that we must come up with on our own while still dead in sin, in order to be born again?
Respond to this video... Eph 2:5 seams to echo another verse were it is stated Christ died for us while we were still sinners. One way to see it is from God's point of view... being outside time, when we were still sinners, to Him, we had already been made alive. The words the epistles use always speak of serving Christ voluntarily, not under forced servanthood. I do see the application you make though, and it has got me thinking...I will pray God leads us both to the truth....
'Religion' is an invention of man. Jesus, the apostles, the followers of that era were not of any denomination aside from being tagged by the Romans as "Christ-ians". The word 'doctrine' means 'teaching' and when we look at 'doctrines of the Christian faith we see hundreds of denominations all based on man's, not God's, interpretation of the holy scripture. Religion is man's attempt of reaching God but true Christianity is a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
@paktc I like it. It's not a religion, but a relationship. I think denominations help some but hurt others. I do think it is a tad(try totally) silly to split up over little details. Though we must admit some denominations have some pretty out-there theology and thus one positive about a denomination is you generally know what to expect.
@paktc True, ask yourself, what was the religion of Jesus, ignorant people would say He was Jewish, but that's like saying that my religion is Finnish since I am born in Finland and are a finn..
Jesus is the WAY the LIFE and the TRUTH, it's not about religion, it's about a relationship with God trough Jesus. Abraham Didn't have a religion, he was Abraham the hebrew, and he followed the God of the Bible.
Religion will destroy you, Jesus can set you free.
Christianity is a religion like any other. In fact it started off as a cult. "holy scripture" is all fabricated by man. The entire concept of the biblical god and a "saviour" christ is pure religion in itself.
@paktc so who invented religion then? I know who invented the computer,internet and youtube. you cant make claims with no backing. find out who invented religion and let us all know it.
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@Kirkaiya You are out of touch with reality. I have not ONCE asked you to disprove God or supply proof of atheism. I have no clue where you're getting these ideas from and why you keep hopping down the bunny trail of nonsense. Positives of atheism. The benefits to atheism. I said if you cannot defend why atheism is beneficial or superior to theism, then your comments are useless. And truely -- you cannot support atheism without insulting theists and you say *I'm* insulting? Of course.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
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earthygreen 2 weeks ago
Atheists believe there was nothing then there was something and it exploded and here we are , well when there is nothing there is nothing . Something had to always exist for us to be here , I choose an intelligent being known as GOD.
Jayteah1953 3 weeks ago
Poor girl sleeping in the background
MrMfloor 3 weeks ago in playlist Living Waters University
Praise be to God!!!!!!!!!!
hsvpeterson 1 month ago
There are more atheists who come to watch these videos than Christians, thus confirming man's need for God. Atheists, it's time to repent. It's time to turn from darkness and embrace the light.
PulpPractical 1 month ago in playlist living waters playlist 2
@PulpPractical I agree, atheists do seem to be interested in these videos, though they'd rather slam our faith in God rather then accept it and embrace that God does exist, he loves us. Only a fool says in his heart that there is no God, as it says in Ephesians. And 2 Corinthians 5:7 states we should walk by faith, not by sight.
1992Cameron 1 month ago
@1992Cameron Yeah, they’re more obsessed with God than we are. Every atheist I’ve ever met sits around trying to justify the fact that he/she does not believe in God, yet all they ever do is talk about him all day long. They know there’s a God to whom they will be held accountable; they’re just hiding because they want to make up their own rules. That’s all it is, dude. Keep strong in the Lord Jesus, who strengthens us in all our ways.
PulpPractical 1 month ago
@PulpPractical Will do dude :D haha and just think, when I saw someone replied to my comment I thought it was gonna be bad lol like the other videos by living waters I've commented on, but hey :D its good to be backed up by other christians like you my friend, have a nice day :)
1992Cameron 4 weeks ago
@PulpPractical No, it confirms atheists playful desire to be snarky and see what you superstitious Zeus-worshippers are up to ;-)
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya Can I ask why you're here? Trying to spread the word of freedom without a god with love?
Or are you here to be cruel and insulting? Being the caricature of the antagonizing atheist..
If you have nothing positive to say for non-belief and its benefits, then keep your opinion to yourself. There is no room for being insulting and ignorant here or anywhere. If you have an opinion worth hearing, keep your temper and keep your sarcasm. Regardless of how you're treated.
earthygreen 3 weeks ago
@earthygreen I'm just speaking truth: that every society in history has invented gods or a god/goddess to explain things they can't understand. The Egyptians did it, the Mayans did it, the Greeks did it, and the Romans stole the Greek gods and renamed them. Your god is no different, it comes from your natural desire to ascribe "purpose" to things you don't understand.
You think telling the truth is "cruel and insulting"? Too bad for you. Why don't YOU keep your opinion to yourself?
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya You are not telling the truth. You are being insulting because you are ignorant of that which you detest. I have no only befriended my share of Atheists, I understand exactly why they think as they do. I can understand the inability to believe and that which they cannot witness or run through the scientific method. If it is not repeatable, ect. You can justify your tone but it is evident that you have less than honorable intentions.
earthygreen 3 weeks ago
@earthygreen Yes,I am telling the truth. The truth is only insulting to the ignorant. I neither detest religion, nor am I ignorant of it (I was raised as a Christian, and was the assistant pastor in my church at one point). And the word "atheists" is not capitalized, as it's not a proper noun. Atheism is not an inability to believe, it's the lack of belief in supernatural deities for which there is no evidence. Wow, you put more "wrong" in one comment than I thought was possible.
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya You are self-justifying your words and attitude. You are full of pride and refuse to accept criticism when you're wrong. You don't have to be religious to admit when you're more interested in insulting people who are unlike you than you are in trying to change anyone's mindset. Your ignorance is based upon your unwillingness to address belief in a deity rather than your obvious desire to be insulting.
earthygreen 3 weeks ago
@earthygreen I'm not "self-justifying" anything, that's just so much bloviating on your part. You say I refuse to accept criticism when I'm wrong, but I haven't been shown to be wrong about anything I've said here yet. I have not insulted anyone here that didn't insult me first, and your own ignorance of reality (and belief in a magical man in the sky who controls everything) gives lie to your claim that I'm ignorant, rather than you. There is no Zeus. There is no God. Get over it
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya "I have not insulted anyone here that didn't insult me first,"
Simply put, grow up. I know your tone, I know your words. I've seen them 1,000 times before. From the heart the mouth speaks. That's true whether you're "religious" or not. Like I've said before, you don't have to be religious to be a descent and mature human being. You have taken the low road simply to be insulting, not to be productive.
earthygreen 3 weeks ago
@earthygreen You, frankly, have been nothing but insulting, you have not offered any evidence in support of any of your assertions that I've been "wrong", or "ignorant", or any of the rest. You certainly don't have to be religious to be a decent and mature human being; sadly you are proving the converse: that even the religious can be small-minded, deceitful, petty and hateful. Let go of the hate you hold in your heart for the secular, and you will find yourself less bitter for it
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya I point out your arrogance and insulting words, and I quote "He's like a walking caricature of the "stupid Christian"." and you attempt to throw it back on me? I respond to your initial insult, and you claim it is *I* who has been insulting. Typical. Very, very typical.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen Your problem is that I didn't insult YOU, I made the remark about Ray Comfort (and many Christians I know consider him an embarrassment). And then, in a very un-Christ-like move, you decided to personally insult me - on this forum. I doubt Ray Comfort has even *read* my remark, meaning there is, in effect, no insult at all. For you to then claim that it's ME making personal insults, but not YOU, is indeed very typical. Your oh-so-Christian behavior is inspiring (not).
Kirkaiya 2 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya Capitalization is your opinion. Other Atheists disagree. Grammatically correct or not.
Negro is a non-offensive word which simply means "black" in another language. Yet it is considered insulting by some black individuals.
Some Atheists have expressed the lower-a as insulting or inferior. It makes no nevermind to me. I avoid seeming insulting as to avoid senseless arguments, like yours, regarding grammar.
earthygreen 3 weeks ago
@earthygreen Whether other atheists agree or disagree is a moot point - the word is not capitalized, because by the rules of the English language, it is not. Atheists can claim the moon is made of cheese, that doesn't make them correct - your argument is fallacious (as even you concede with "grammatically correct or not". And for the record, it's "not". If it makes "no nevermind" to you, why not use the correct form? Oh - and false analogy to 'black' vs 'negro' by the way.
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya Yes, let us continue to focus on the capitalization of a word. The analogy was to illustrate whether a word is being properly used or not, some take offense to it so it stops being used. Even in its proper sense. "And for the record" - read my previous comment.
You may find yourself superior, but you still have yet to build an worthy argument against religion. Instead you maintain that your insults are valid commentary, while denying that you are simply being insulting.
earthygreen 3 weeks ago
@earthygreen You keep claiming - falsely - that I've held myself as superior. I have not - it's you that has acted as though you think your false beliefs make you superior, which ironically, they do not. They only demonstrate that you are part of a minority group worldwide who believes in your particular deity. As for "building an argument", as the default assumption must be that there is no god in the face of no evidence, it's you who has failed to convince that this myth is real.
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya "I have not - it's you that has acted as though you think your false beliefs make you superior,"
Quote me. Otherwise, you're arguing against your own strawman, and you look ridiculous doing so. I addressed the words you were using and the attitude behind them. You said insulting things. Derisive things. Then, when you rather not defend yourself, began to address the capitalization of a word. When one goes after grammar, spelling, etc -- it's a tell-tale distraction.
earthygreen 3 weeks ago
@earthygreen You should heed your own advice, and point out where I've said insulting or derisive things. I haven't, unless you're of the opinion that pointing out truths about the universe - there is no Allah, no Shiva, no Zeus and no Christian God - is somehow either "derisive" or insulting. It betrays a lack of faith, and a real pettiness on your part to even accuse another of something that you are very guilty of here: I believe the word that describes you here is "hypocrite".
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya Again -- "He's like a walking caricature of the "stupid Christian"."
You get shown that you are not offering any substantive argument, rather throwing out simple-minded insults and instead of offering an argument, you claim you have a good reason to insult others. Continuing to try to change the subject of my comments to you, doesn't change the fact that your insults have offered nothing to the topic.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen And here you go again - trotting out the *one* comment I made - directed at Ray Comfort, not you, btw, and use that as your reason for writing multiple personal insults directed to me. Are you Ray Comfort? No? Then I didn't insult you. Your writing shows a level of contempt, disdain, and ignorance I do find consistent with Ray Comfort's rantings, though.. neither of you embodies even the remotest shadow of what Jesus taught, you know that right? You're a lousy Christian
Kirkaiya 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen You want quotes? Here are a few choice ones from your comments:
You called me "the caricature of the antagonizing atheist", and told me to "keep your opinion to yourself" (contrary to the entire spirit of a discussion forum, I might add). You said of my atheism, that "you are ignorant of that which you detest", which is insulting, and a lie both (as I pointed out afterwards). You write "I understand exactly why they [atheists] think as they do" (but you don't).
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya many a decent and mature person will stand before Jesus guilty of rejecting him . The price is losing their eternal life with him , a choice they made , which they have every right to do so.
Jayteah1953 3 weeks ago
@Jayteah1953 The problem is that Jesus, whoever he was, died two-thousand years ago, and was a man, not a son of a supernatural being. Therefore, no one - decent and mature or otherwise - will ever again stand before Jesus. There is no such thing as "eternal life", and thermodynamics provides a convincing proof of this. If I told you that you have the right to stand before Zeus and Hera, and be judged by them, you would reject the Hellenistic religion as false (rightly so).
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya You assume, yet again.
I made that statement based on your initial insult -- of which I've quoted to you twice now, so I won't do so a 3rd time.
Yes, "IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER....keep your opinion to yourself." Quote me fully next time. Otherwise you lose credibility, yet again.
If you weren't being insulting, I wouldn't see the detest in your mocking comments.
And I do understand why atheists think as they do. Again -- you ASSUME.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen Prove to me that my comment is based on an assumption. You can't. And you did tell me to, in effect, "shut up"; the fact that you say that I should only post if I have some content that meets YOUR criteria for "something to offer" is consistent with the type of censorship I'm sure you'd love to put in place to muzzle the truth. The facts remain- you have been insulting to me from the get-go, which I've only recently returned in kind. And you do NOT understand atheists.
Kirkaiya 2 weeks ago
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@earthygreen (cont.) Pretending to have perfect understanding of why atheists don't share your beliefs is arrogant (and false in this case). You wrote that "I can understand the inability to believe and that which they cannot witness or run through the scientific method". That's also insulting and false - many atheists neither know nor care about the scientific method, they simply have no irrational belief in gods. You write "you have less than honorable intentions". Insults again.
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya It's very simple -- when you INSULT people by calling them STUPID, you do not have honorable intentions.
If you understand the English language, you can see where I wrote "..which they cannot witness...". I have spent quite a lot of time studying religion and learning from the religious and irreligious. I have yet to meet an atheist who threw off belief in God without researching. The majority of atheists I've met are incredibly brilliant and hold evidence in high regard.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen Stop lying - that's one of your 10 commandments. I didn't call YOU "stupid", I didn't even call Ray Comfort stupid, I said he was a walking caricature of the stereotype of the "stupid Christian". You are not Ray Comfort, therefore I didn't insult you. Your failure to understand this is wholly consistent with your failure to act as Christ would have, and instead to demonstrate to all that your so-called beliefs don't run very deep.
You don't understand atheism, clearly.
Kirkaiya 2 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya You are not standing with the majority at this point. I have toed the line of atheism and welcomed any and all challenges to the belief system I was raised in. If it was of any merit, it would withstand questioning from the harshest of critics, right? I've heard some incredibly compelling questions and arguments. Very compelling. I don't expect every atheist to live up to those standards, but I do expect concise responses; forgo self-defense and present your best objection.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen "standing with the majority"? LOL. 1st: the truth is not determined by majority. 2nd: Christians are a MINORITY of people on Earth. 3rd: I was raised as a Christian, was an assistant pastor in my church, and know from experience the power of the god delusion. 4th: atheists don't have anything to "prove", we lack belief in any gods, just as you lack belief in all gods but one. You claim your god is real, the burden of proof is on you.
Did you not understand this? Wow.
Kirkaiya 2 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya 1st - I was talking about my experience. Is english your first language or are you dyslexic? You *can* read can't you? THE MAJORITY THAT I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO MEET.
2nd & 3rd What are you talking about - and why?
4th Did I say you had anything to "Prove"? Please, do quote me where I said you had to PROVE anything. :-)
I said if you didn't have anything BENEFICIAL TO SAY ABOUT NON-BELIEF then keep your opinion (insults) to yourself.
You do think you are clever...WOW
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen I think it's evident to all that I'm more fluent in English than you; your repetitive grammar betrays either an inadequate education. But nice try at yet *another* ad hominem, which you seem to be unaware is a fallacious argument. You ask what I'm talking about - I don't intend to dumb down my comments further. And you lie again, saying "...anything beneficial to say about non-belief", but of course, you didn't say that, I would paste your quote in, but to what end? LOL
Kirkaiya 2 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya You fail even in your insults.
The best you have to offer are empty insults and ignoring the fact that insults are all you have to offer. Bring some substance to your next comment. Maybe you could.. oh.. I dunno, say something positive about non-belief rather than insulting theists. Unfortunately, I doubt you have the capacity to do anything but antagonize and be petty.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen You misunderstand - I'm not trying to insult you. And you don't quite grasp the concept of the "comments" section for a video (I commented on the video, you have only insulted me). I'm glad you continue to write- I want every person with wavering belief to see just what kind of person claims to be "Christian"; you're the best example of a hypocrite I've seen on YouTube. And you still don't understand logic, you're asking for positives about non-belief, LMAO. Really?
Kirkaiya 2 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya I understand what you're attempting. Perfectly. But you would rather believe yourself superior in all matters. I'm sure I'm the best example of everything you detest, simply b/c you are currently attempting to insult me at this time. The next person you argue against, you'll say the same thing. As I'm sure you've said this to others before me.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen You obviously don't understand what I'm doing since you repeatedly mischaracterize it and (no surprise) continue your litany of insults. Your insults merely betray your pettiness, and lack of a logical rebuttal to what I've pointed out. And no, you're not "the best example" of anything I can think of, least of all what I detest (I pity your lack of understanding, but detest you? That's really silly). Please continue your troll-like rants, you discredit religion for me.
Kirkaiya 2 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya Again -- you are without support for the benefits of atheism so you turn around my criticisms and accuse ME of that which you've done. Okay.
I don't discredit anything for you. You are a thinking individual. Clearly you disagree with religion in the first place. If I washed your feet and served you for life in the name of Christ you wouldn't believe in Him. It's rather flattering I hold that much weight in your belief system. Or NON-belief.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya I can link you to many atheist YouTube channels who will tell you quite extensively of how positive atheism has been for them and its benefits. They can even walk you through, step-by-step the emotional stages of abandoning your particular belief system. And they're quite accurate! Don't throw your humility away just yet, Kirk.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen You seem to think that I care what you can provide links to vis a vis atheism. I don't. If you cannot provide evidence for your god, then you haven't a leg to stand on. In fact, of the last 1,000 gods that mankind has invented, you're basically an atheist regarding 999 of them (you think they are untrue). I've simply gone one more, and disbelieve the last one as well.
Millions of children are made happy by Santa every year. Santa is imaginary. Ditto for god.
Kirkaiya 2 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya Who said anything about me proving God exists or me asking YOU to DISPROVE his existence??? Where are you GETTING this inanity from? Can you PLEASE disengage from the mentality that I'm asking you for proof?
I *SAID*, yet AGAIN, that if you can only insult theists then you are only here to troll. If you have anything positive to say about the benefits of atheism v theism that's one thing. But being insulting is worthless. Try offering why atheism is preferrable to theism.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen Do you seriously have difficulty comprehending what I'm saying? Wow, it's like I'm talking to a wall. Since you seem to like CAPS, I'll try that: I DON'T CARE that you want "positives" about belief vs non-belief. That has NO BEARING ON THE TRUTH. And - once more, with feeling - the TRUTH IS NOT AN INSULT. It's just the truth. It's not about whether theism is "preferable" to atheism, any more than "belief in Santa" is preferable to not. There IS NO SANTA. Get it?
Kirkaiya 2 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya I don't want you to give me positives about anything. But your insulting comments are not warranted. You call Christians "stupid", that's an insult. Again, very simple to understand. It's not "the truth" as you keep focusing on your Non-belief of any god. Which is probably why you're having trouble admitting that your comment is insulting. You would rather ignore it than admit...that yes, you are insulting. Which is useless in any debate.
earthygreen 2 weeks ago
@earthygreen First you want me to give you positives, and now you don't. You are lying (a SIN) yet again by saying I called Christians stupid, when I NEVER DID (I dare you to quote me calling Christians stupid - I did not, I said Ray Comfort was like the stereotype of a "stupid Christian", meaning one of the Christians who is stupid - and yes, some Christians, like some of every group, are stupid). All you do in insult, but you lack reading comprehension. The truth is not an insult.
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
@Kirkaiya Please don't. You're reaching in order to win an argument. Lying? Hardly.
Besides, this is becoming monotonous. Forgive me, truly, for any misunderstanding and causing unjust offense to you.
God Bless your future.
earthygreen 1 week ago
@earthygreen No, I'm not "reaching", unless you consider telling the truth to be 'reaching' (which would seem fitting, since you already told a lie, and refuse to admit it).
Face it - I never called Christians stupid. I said Ray Comfort was becoming a caricature of "the stupid Christian" (a stereotype that applies only to those so blindly in denial of reality that they go around convinced that the world is 6000 yrs old). That's not an insult to you, or calling all Christians stupid
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
@Kirkaiya Believe as you wish. God bless you. Sincerely.
earthygreen 1 week ago
@earthygreen Even that ("believe as you wish") does not seem, to me, possible. I don't think humans have much capacity to consciously change what they actually believe; for example, could you *really* believe the Earth is flat if someone offered you a billion dollars? Not just *say* you believed it was flat, but really believe it? I doubt it. I doubt you could believe in Zeuss if you wished to, either. There is no god, as much as I do wish there was one. My wishes are not relevant
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
@Kirkaiya Well, I was referring to me. Believe as you wish about me. But why would you want to believe in God?
I wanted to believe in God, but I had to hear every question anyone could come up with about God's existence. Listened to Dawkins and the late Hitchens (Who I did give a place on my facebook to pay my respects). I stuck solely to atheist writings and opinions. For a couple years. I do understand. But I understand both sides of it. Nearly fully.
earthygreen 1 week ago
@earthygreen Of course I *wish* there was a god (not the Muslim, or Christian god, but a truly benevolent one), for a variety of reason. But again - based on your prior comments, you never fully understood how many atheists think, and why they lack belief - not just in your god, but any supernatural deity. I was a devout Christian, until I figured out the truth. I understand from *being* Christian. If you were not actually atheist, you don't.
There is no Santa, no Zeus, no God.
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
@Kirk - I know you may not be able to grasp my own understand of atheism, but that's neither here nor there. It's difficult for one person to tell another how they thing and to what depths they understand. Especially after a dozen or two comments on a video. I know what non-belief is. I know what it looks like. I know what it feels like. I don't question your dedication to Christianity, but I do question what you've been through and what brought you here. For me -- it wasn't dramatic.
earthygreen 1 week ago
@earthygreen - I can't grasp something that isn't there, and if you've never been atheist, you don't understand it. Judging by your comments about atheism, it's *very clear* that you don't understand the reasoning of many atheists (scientific method? LOL). You dismiss this, but it's key - you don't actually understand. That you know what non-belief IS doesn't mean you understand it. Insight doesn't come from short comments on YouTube. Atheism predates science. There is no god.
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
@Kirk -- I understand atheism. Again, believe as you wish.
Do you know what the scientific method is? Simply put - if it has no evidence and it cannot be tested, it cannot be proven. Therefore belief is unwarranted. In a nutshell.
Is it not the majority of Atheists perspective that because there is no evidence for God, that He doesn't exist? I'm not sure why you find lack of evidence as funny.
earthygreen 1 week ago
@earthygreen You keep repeating, "believe as you wish" as if that meant anything more than an acknowledgement on your part that you have no point to make, and can list no reasons for what you believe. Your definition of the scientific method is wrong - the method is Observation, Hypothesis, Testing/Experimentation, and Conclusion. I worked in a physics laboratory, I have zero doubt I'm more familiar with it than you. Again, the word atheist is not capitalized.
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
@Kirkaiya Believe as you wish -- You keep insisting you are correct when you are not. You are insistent that you know what I understand or don't understand.
Also -- "in a nut shell" is pretty explanatory. I know the steps of the scientific method. If there isn't any evidence and it cannot be tested, it cannot be proven.
I was quite familiar with a man who boasted he worked in a science laboratory at a large university. Turned out he cleaned animal cages. :-)
earthygreen 1 week ago
@earthygreen "cleaned animal cages" - in the particle physics lab in which I worked as a staff engineer, we had no animals. Nice try (yet again) to insult me. I am only insisting that you do not understand why many atheists are atheist, because you insist on repeating false reasons. You didn't give the scientific method "in a nutshell", I did. You gave only one small piece of it - evidence. I also insist you lied by saying I called all Christians stupid, when I didn't.
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
@earthygreen (continued) As to your question of why most atheists are atheist, its because atheism is the null hypothesis. Why do you not believe in Zeus, Hera and Poseidon? Why don't you believe in the Roman gods? The god Thor and his hammer? Why not the myriad gods of Hinduism? Is it the scientific method that makes you doubt 999 of 1,000 different gods? I doubt it. My disbelief merely extends to 1 more god - yours.
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
@Kirkaiya As a matter of fact, that's exactly what I've been doing the last 10 years or more. Exploring the claims of religions and measuring them for their veracity.
earthygreen 1 week ago
@earthygreen You've spent 10 years "exploring the claims of religions and measuring them"?? LOL, that is total b.s. There are no fundamental claims of any religion that are TESTABLE or MEASURABLE, so you have wasted 10 years. Claims of an afterlife, or non-disprovable entity cannot be tested (unless you kill yourself, testing the afterlife claim). I have traveled thru India, my wife is Buddhist. None of the major claims can be tested. Talk about "boasting" about complete nonsense.
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
@Kirkaiya As a matter of fact, yes, there are claims that are testable in all religions. Many claims. I find it odd that you keep insinuating that you're educated, yet you don't give any credence to facts of reality. You make me suspicious of just who you really are behind the statements that you're making. What you're scoffing at doesn't match up with your high-regard for your own intellect. You're inconsistent, friend.
earthygreen 1 week ago
@earthygreen *yawn* Your own insinuations (now you insinuate that I'm "not educated", lol) are getting boring. And of course, you lie again - I didn't claim there were zero testable claims, I said "There are no fundamental claims" that are testable, and this is obviously true - if not, the claims would have been tested long ago, and all people would be of one religion. As for your opinion of my intellect, or your "suspicions", I just don't care. Your mediocrity is beyond banal.
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
@Kirkaiya Wow -- that is one of the most arrogant and judgemental pact of sentences I've seen in a while. I guess someone questioning your self-proclaimed intelligence is a knife in the gut, eh?
You call me a hypocrite yet display yourself as one for all to see.
I think I shall demonstrate superior wisdom and shake this dust from my shoes. When a person becomes malignant -- I know they've lost all perspective of the discussion. Yours is long gone. Farewell, Kirk.
earthygreen 1 week ago
@earthygreen *yawn* And yet again with the "WOW!" bit. Don't you get bored writing the same snarky yet pointless drivel? As I said, I don't care what your opinion of my intellect is - one of us must, by nature, be more intelligent, and I think it's clearly me. Yes, you are a hypocrite, no, you don't believe in Zeus, or Quetzalcoatl, and no, it's not because they fail to make testable claims. You're just another bigot who thinks his own religion is "best". You're wrong. There is god.
Kirkaiya 1 week ago
Hey, instead of judging other people, why don’t you start with yourself? I mean, I’m sure you have also stolen something when you were a kid, so you are also a thief. I’m pretty sure you do (sometimes) look at woman in a sensual form, so that makes you perverted to God’s eyes, I’m sure you have tried alcohol, so you’re an alcoholic, come on, you seriously have no idea about God, religion does not influence into God. The bible is just a path to follow and serve God.
ArmadaRanger 2 months ago
@ArmadaRanger You're missing the point, Ranger. He's not judging. He's not saying he HASN'T done those things. He knows he is corrupted at his core and he knows Jesus is the only way to Salvation. But other people deny that in themselves. He's simply revealing the truth before their eyes and offering them to take up the path to Salvation. None of this is done with malice or enmity.
earthygreen 3 weeks ago
Oh - and I notice that ratings have been disabled for this video.... gee, I wonder why that might be?
Kirkaiya 2 months ago
@Kirkaiya Because some abuse that rating system and it is less accurate on videos dealing with political issues or religious issues.
And by abuse I don't mean bringing 5000 friends to downvote a video.
earthygreen 3 weeks ago
Is this whole illogical and rather childish "what do we call a person who lies" schtick Ray's only schtick? I mean - is that it? He's not aware that "stealing" something when you're a child isn't equivalent with being a "thief", or that telling your wife she looks great in a dress (even if she doesn't), doesn't make a person "bad" or a "liar"? Does anyone actually fall for his 7th-grade attempt at logic??
Kirkaiya 2 months ago
@Kirkaiya Kirkaiya...he uses the law to remind us that God sees us as sinners and the only thing will save us is trust in Christ. The point is that minute we are born, we are already judged and waiting for our prison sentence. Yes, you are right, lying is not as serious as Killing someone. To God it is his law and we must obey it! There is no other way! You must worship Christ and believe in him!
MrMfloor 3 weeks ago in playlist Living Waters University
@MrMfloor If you think Ray Comfort is doing the image of Christianity *any* good at all among non-believers, you're very wrong. He's like a walking caricature of the "stupid Christian". I applaud him for probably creating more atheists than even Dawkins, lol
As for your god, his law and your claim that I "must worship Christ" - no, I don't, and I won't, because he's a myth, and it's all in your head. You can pray to a brick and have the same result. There are no gods, sorry.
Kirkaiya 3 weeks ago
@Kirkaiya It's not a schtick. It's biblical. Ray Comfort didn't invent it.
People will justify their actions which is self-righteousness. A lot of people who dislike 'religious' people claim christians act self-righteous, when in FACT, it is the one denying their own sins who justify their actions who are self-righteous. The Christian is very often self-denying and recognizes they are wholly depraved before God.
earthygreen 3 weeks ago
woooow! this is awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RealTalkAndre 2 months ago in playlist Living Waters University
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WOTM teach works salvation according to the bible, here is 100% proof:
Jonah 3:10 And God saw THEIR WORKS, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
It says God saw "their WORKS" they they turned from their evil way (sins), and in the same verse it says God himself repented...it doesn't mean turn from sin, WOTM are 100% fake phony works salvation, self righteous pharisees. Dont trust them, trust KJV bible
wotmarenotsaved 3 months ago
Ray, you're so awesome! God totally works through you!
Icetitan777 3 months ago in playlist Living Waters University
Praise God.
IELTSExamination 3 months ago in playlist The Way of the Master
@webbk123 We're not born sinners, we are born as babies. It is when we knowingly commit sin that we become children of wrath. Children that are under the age of accountability do not go to hell when they die. The bible says in Matthew 19:14: Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." This paints a picture of what you can expect in heaven. There are over 4000 abortions every day in the USA. Babies to to heaven
waytruthlifedisciple 3 months ago
Praise God! God Bless you and your ministry!
hamy72 3 months ago
That was a beautiful thing.
MrTxroady 4 months ago
praise God! way to go, ray
JaymarkRadio 4 months ago
This was so powerful. Praise God.
thesangster 5 months ago
Thank you Jesus.
God's ways are perfect. See the Bible for details. Ask Jesus to guide you into all Truth.
greatdanechick2 5 months ago
LIKE this video. Ray reaches out to the lost so they might be saved. Religion by man is no good. "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." James 1:27
Odettesharesherheart 5 months ago
Such a beautiful display of God's love and living through His people. Thanks, Ray!
nowaydudebook 7 months ago
Saying the lords name in vain is NOT blasphemy. Its exactly what it says. "taking his name in vain". I am not disputing the fact that it is a sin. The bible says no sin is greater than the other.
kenhai93 7 months ago
It pains me to see people actually listening to this crap like it's both logical and worth their time and effort.
subpoprec 9 months ago
@mcpencil History and Philosophy just got fabricated by you ! atleast you didnt refute the laws of Logic.
ueahunt 10 months ago
@zamestol this is not a fruit market or a culinary institute. and u must ask teh airlines people about what fruit they serve to their customers.
ueahunt 10 months ago
What, no banana ?
zamestol 10 months ago
@polopowers1 It doesn't look like it was a consecutive order man. So are you saying don't repent? Or just trust Jesus without a contrite spirit? It's two sides of the same coin, you cannot have one without the other. Jesus said, "Repent and believe the gospel" Repentance of sin is a turning from it, but to what/who? To God....That's where the believing the gospel comes in. It's good news. And that's GREAT Theology!
Danny2Lisa 11 months ago
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Repent say your sorry and the SECOND thing you do is receive Jesus. HUH! Jesus is not second to saying your sorry that is nonsense. There is no prelude to Christ. Man cannot be total flesh and repent to be in Spirit, that is heresy.
polopowers1 11 months ago
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polopowers1 11 months ago
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All this talk about the commandments got me thinking. What about the 4th commandment? You know that one about keeping the Sabbath Holy.
Does God require us to repent and turn from breaking that commandment. If yes, then that would mean..............
Please answer wayofthemaster. Thats a GREAT QUESTION. :)
julie2branden 11 months ago
I've noticed a trend in all of these videos. Nearly every time he asks someone "When are you going to repent?" they say "Well, someday..." - This speaks volumes about how people view religion. They want you to think they are religious - they tell you they believe it, but if they really truly believed in hell they wouldn't hesitate. If people really believed in the Bible they'd read it every single day, and they'd live their life like nothing else mattered. They don't. Because it's silly.
Cyber0Bill 1 year ago
Hey this is great. They are all great. Just one concern. All this talk about the commandments got me thinking. What about the 4th commandment? You know that one about keeping the Sabbath Holy.
Does God require us to repent and turn from breaking that commandment. If yes, then that would mean..............
naciamaJYute 1 year ago
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drwhitelight111 1 year ago
@RichieD814 yes, the Gospel and the Law are very consistent
utmost11 1 year ago
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drwhitelight111 1 year ago
@drwhitelight111 My friend, What is her self worth? She has admitted to being a liar, thief, adulterer and murderer. Do you see ANY self worth there? He is showing her who she is through the eyes of God and giving her a way out of that prison. Because God is "Just", HE wont sugar coat the truth to make a sinful heart feel better in its sin. If you see this as madness, you may be conformed to the world more than you think!!! I hope to see you at the top!!!
thekid26000 1 year ago 2
It is so wonderful to see people come out of false denominations such as Catholic, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Church of Christ, Mormon, SDA, JW, UCC, etc...... and come to the REAL Jesus Christ. I pray that this lady has Repented and Truly Trusted the Saviour. AMEN!!
OneFaithMinistries 1 year ago
@OneFaithMinistries
I am trying to understand what you are saying, i mean yes Mormons, JWs and even Catholics have false doctrine. However are you claiming that all denominations are wrong except for your specific one? There are little differences but nothing when it comes to salvation, there are plenty of denominations that believe Jesus died and that it is only through him we are saved. Saying that only one denomination of Christianity is going to heaven is very cultist.
BenjaminWirtz 1 year ago
@BenjaminWirtz No. If they truly follow the Bible, then they are fine. Read my statement of faith on my page. I cover that there. And yes, the denominations believe different things about salvation. Nothing is little when it come to truth. One Lord, ONE FAITH, One Baptism. Thanks.
OneFaithMinistries 1 year ago
@OneFaithMinistries
Read it, I like this statement
"I firmly believe that Arminians, and those in between Arminianism and Calvinism, are True, Regenerated, God Loving, Heaven-Bound Christians. At the end of the day, we both preach that same message of truth; Repent and Trust in Christ! Arminians and Calvinists need to learn to work together and to love one another."
I was trying to say something similar. What form of Methodism do you support because there are some that are quite liberal.
BenjaminWirtz 1 year ago
@BenjaminWirtz Sir, should you have read my whole statement of faith you would find that I am conservative, in fact, I am anti-liberal. So, what would the logical conclusion be? Yes, many Methodists are liberal. Many Moravians, Baptists, Presbyterians, etc... are also liberal. But there are still many of us who stand for the Bible and its conservative values. There are many United Methodists who are still conservative. BTW, if you now have a problem with my channel, send me a message.
OneFaithMinistries 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 have you ever told the truth? then you are a truth teller, any bad thoughts? = sins, really??? we are not allowed to use brains is not like you can hurt somebody with your mind, you call that free wil???l we are capable to think but is a sin? it's all about god,s way or the highway, me or hell is that a reasonable option? is that fair? it's like a guy with a gun the money or your life ? choose.
jaca1 1 year ago
@jaca1 Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace.
The reason you think evil thoughts are no big deal is because you don't understand the perfect Holiness and righteousness of God. God is so good that he's going to punish sin wherever he finds it. But he also offeres grace. Even though we cannot be perfect, God has made a way for us to be seen as perfect in Christ Jesus.
What's wrong with choice? Choosing is a byproduct of freedom.
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 so human sacrifice is percfectly ok in the eyes of a perfect holly god? i simple you are forgiven would' ve been ok for me, but not for him he needed his son killed now thats love or just sick? and read the whole bible not just the nice one parts.
jaca1 1 year ago
@jaca1 Jesus Christ is God incarnate therefore God is providing the sacrifice for us, not some poor unwitting human as you seem to think. Acts 20:28 ...the Holy Ghost (God) hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Secondly, God is a God of justice. A judge clearing lawbreakers without penalty is corrupt and unjust. However, in Gods' omniscience, he made a way to satisfy both his justice and mercy...the cross of Christ!
fellowservant34 1 year ago
@fellowservant34 bible endorses slavery, killing and othe inmoral things but you just ignore all that and how can god be justice when he forgives all things but one, you know which one the worst of all the most inmoral and evil thing that you can not be tolerated is....BLASFEMY. in my eyes there's nothing any human can do to desrve being tortured for ever.The punishment should fit the crime thats just justice."Be my slave or burn for eternity" are those my only 2 options? let me think about it.
jaca1 1 year ago
Theres nothing like God revealing that His spirit is in you and changing everything about you to Love Him above all!
inhalejesus 1 year ago
Praise God! I wonder how the young lady is doing now!
inhalejesus 1 year ago
Ray has been telling this one for decades. Refutation:
Ever told the truth. That makes you a truthteller!
Ever done a good thing, that makes you good!
So youre going to heaven! :)))
12tod 1 year ago
USE YOUTUBE TO SPREAD THE GOSPEL: God came to the earth as Jesus Christ to live a sinless life worthy of being able to defeat death and paying our price as a sacrifice for all the sins each and every one of us has committed against a just and holy God. He suffered the punishment/wrath of God for all of the worlds sin while he hung on the cross. Place your trust and faith in him. Believe in him and repent of your sins. Once you are truly saved, you become a new creation
Dejavu12321 1 year ago
I don't think Ray should put such an emphasis on repentance. It really confuses people because they mistake it for doing good works to earn their salvation, rather than simply believing.
digifreak10101 1 year ago
@digifreak10101 Jesus said unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.There should be emphasis on repentance.
GodLovesUs100 1 year ago
@GodLovesUs100 I know, but that in no way addresses what I said. What is your solution to keep people from getting repentance confused with earning your salvation?
digifreak10101 1 year ago
@digifreak10101 Well they need to know, I wouldn't say it would be smart to keep it from them.My opinion is that one should take the time to explain to them what repentance is and show them that salvation is by grace through faith alone, not of works.Godly repentance comes from God.So just take them through the scriptures and let the Lord's will be done.
GodLovesUs100 1 year ago
@GodLovesUs100 I agree, I just don't think Ray does a very good job at clarifying that. In this video he says repentance is a continual lifestyle. To the unchurched non-believer that implies that it's dependent on works and takes emphasis off grace. I guess I would just be more careful with my choice of words.
digifreak10101 1 year ago
@digifreak10101 Well yeah so maybe we should just take time to explain how this is not earning salvation.One way to put it is by showing that if you truly repent now for your sins, you will continue to do so as you walk and grow in your walk with God.Also too make sure to clarify that godly repentance comes from God,it's not something we produce on our own.But I think it's good to talk about these things.May the Lord Jesus bless and edify you my dear friend, God bless and keep you,Peace
GodLovesUs100 1 year ago
I want everyone to see the respectful tone Scottles and I have here. We are not arguing. We are exchanging ideas. Though we may disagree on a point, we show respect to one another. I pray God reveals the truth to both of us...
giantsfan245 1 year ago
i find something pretty wrong with Rays theology. He's saying to steph if she repents and trusts Jesus, then she'll be born again, as if the power was hers to regenerate herself. I think it is more accurate to say if God has regenerated Steph and has granted her saving faith then repentence and faith will be a fruit of conversion, not a cause of it. What are YOUR thoughts
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 To come to Christ, one would have to recognize something is wrong. So repentence and faith come at the same time, but are not one time events. You don't stop repenting nor having faith. All repenting means is to turn from sin, which would be a natural reaction to being born again. But even before accepting Christ, there would be no point in having faith in Christ if you continued to live the same way as before.....continued
giantsfan245 1 year ago
God did His part but we have to do ours. Our part is NOT working FOR salvation(as in works based religions) but accepting the gift of Christ and repenting(which is the super-natural outcome of accepting the gift---being born again). If someone leaves a gift on your doorstep, it does you no good. You have to bring it inside, open it, and accept it. Same principal :) Hope this helps explain what i believe Ray was saying.
giantsfan245 1 year ago
@giantsfan245 so people who are dead in sin, who dont seek God, who have hearts 'as stones', must make the free will choice to seek God, be born again themselves and receive His forgiveness . In other words God cant save anyone unless we give Him permission first?
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 In a sense yes. Paul called himself a bond servent to Christ. That means Paul chose to serve Christ. Remember Rev. 3. Jesus stands at the door and knocks. He doesn't pull a Rambo and kick in the door. When we see salvation as a relationship, it must be two sided. It's not that God can't, but that love cannot be forced. I am not denying God's sovereignty, but I am not also denying man's responsibility to respond to God's wonderful gift. I hope that makes sense. :)
giantsfan245 1 year ago
@giantsfan245 Revelation 3 is talking about Christ and one of the churches, not a mans heart, its dangerous to take verses out of context. And pauls experience of being thrown down before Jesus on the road and being told what to do doesnt really show Jesus offering him the choice. read Ephesians 2 it shows a pretty clear picture of mans ability to do good and choose God, and what God must do before we "make ourselves born again'. It says God makes us alive while we were still dead in sin.
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 Rev 3 is Jesus talking to the Church of Laodecia(sp?) but can be applied to us as well, otherwise it would be of little use to us. I think you are over emphasizing God's role while overlooking ours. God does the hard part(He died for us)...we just have to accept it. The road to Damsacus was not the only part of Paul's conversion. Paul could have said no. Neither love nor a relationship can be forced
giantsfan245 1 year ago
@giantsfan245 is stopping your child from running out on the road unloving because you dont respect her 'free will' to do so. It doesnt matter if that one particular verse only has one meaning, there are thousands of others that we are meant to read without reading into something thats not there. Yes Jesus died for us, but does His sacrifice actually save or does it only make salvation possible? If the difference between being saved and rejecting the gospel is ultimately something we do while...
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 No it is not unloving, but you do not force them to love you. You do not force them to choose to follow you...I will wait for you to finish you thought before responding to the second part.
giantsfan245 1 year ago
dead in sin (still in the flesh) then the flesh doesnt just profit something, it profits everything. And it means that someone who has chosen to follow Christ can point the finger at unbeleivers and look down on them because YOU made the right decision and they didnt. I agree that there is eagerness and longing to recieve Christ and His forgiveness but this can only be after God has quickened us and made us alive to Spiritual reality (God removes heart of stone and gives heart of
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 I think we will have to agree to disagree. I respect some Calvinistic ideas but differ on this one. Oh, it doesn't mean we look down on anyone. Instead we want to share the good news with others, so they can choose. I do believe God softens the heart prior to accepting him but ultimately the choice is ours.
giantsfan245 1 year ago
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so you believe that Jesus died and paid for the sin of every single person who has and will ever live
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 Yes, I do believe every single person who ever lived, who was old enough and mentally able, actively has the choice of accepting or denying Jesus, whether looking forward(OT) or during/backward(NT). I'm not going to get into 'what about the amazonian in the rainforest' discussion...that's a different discussion...In other words, no one is denied access to God's salvation....someone flagged as spam so not sure if I should have replied....
giantsfan245 1 year ago
flesh - somewhere in ezekiel). that is why someone will come to Him and recieve forgiveness and why someone will laugh and think of the cross as foolishness.
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 Ok, I see what you are saying. In one sense, yes God knows who will accept the gospel and who won't. Therefore God may soften the heart prior to accepting Jesus. But I still think the Bible teaches man's part in salvation, the accepting of the gift. Either way, I thank you for this debate. We are siblings in Christ and can agree to disagree on certain points. May God make the truth evident to both of us.
giantsfan245 1 year ago
ok so Jesus has paid for everyones sin, then why do people go to Hell? if Jesus has paid their penalty and therefore God sees everyone as innocent, why do people still go to Hell? Because they didnt recieve the gift???
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 Yes. If you are are drowning, and I have paid for a life saving device and offer it to you, you still have to take it. The price is paid but it is faith in Christ that makes us innocent in God's eyes. His righteousness. His blood that covers our sin. It is by grace we have been saved(the cross) thru faith(our part), this is a gift of God, not of ourselves. Our faith, that we have, is a gift(we did not earn it).
giantsfan245 1 year ago
@giantsfan245 lol sorry, in one breath you say that ultimatly the choice to come to Christ and be forgiven is ours, but now you say that faith is a gift? do you see how unjust that is? If Jesus has paid in full the penalty of everyones sin then why are people still going to be held accountable if their debt has been paid. Its like saying someone paid my fone bill but im still gonna cop a massive fine if i dont go to the billing place and ask for leniance (cant spell lol)
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 It's more like someone paid for a new house for you but you chose not to accept it. Faith/grace is a gift, but our job is to accept it and use it. The righteousness is available but not applied until it is accepted, but that doesn't mean the debt has not been paid. If I paid your phone bill, you could always say "Hey, I didn't authorize that" and they would remove the credit. Thus us the folly of rejecting Christ. God paid our debt and men reject it.
giantsfan245 1 year ago
@giantsfan245 ok so the cross of Christ is utterly useless untill we add our powerful faith to it? it makes no difference if men dont accept the gift, if their sin has already been paid for then it has been paid for and Christ's sacrifice was ultimatly a failure if u beleive that God is trying to save everyone
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 To be seen as innocent you must be washed by the blood of Jesus (believing and repenting). Yes, Jesus died for all but it is each individuals choice to accept or reject His sacrifice. Jesus died for all so that all would have that chance at redemption. If He hadn't died and rose again then we all would go to Hell. Jesus made it possible so that those who love God can be with HIm forever in Heaven. People go to Hell because they refuse to believe in God and refuse to repent.
aandrgarrett 1 year ago
@aandrgarrett Jesus died for all? If He has paid the penalty for every single persons sin then no one will be going to hell. If God does send people to hell in this light, He is unjust as He is punishing sin that has already been paid for. Jesus made it possible for those who love God?? the Bible is clear that NO ONE seeks for God. There are none who do good, no not one. If God saves sinners based on our view of Him before he saves us then NO ONE is going to be saved.
read Romans 3
Scottles293 1 year ago
@Scottles293 I know what Romans 3 says. Do you know about propitiation and justification? The propiation of Jesus' sacrifice means that His blood was a perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world, but in order to have the full benefits of that propitiation we MUST accept that sacrifice and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Whereby, through saving faith we are justified and declared righteous. A man who has murdered will not go to Heaven unless he accepts what Jesus has done for him & repents.
aandrgarrett 1 year ago
@Scottles293 Christ's death was the only means of satisfying our Heavenly Father's righteous law. God can remain just (punishing the wicked) and still declare sinners to be righteous through the blood of Jesus. Jesus is the ONLY WAY.
aandrgarrett 1 year ago
@aandrgarrett yes justification happens when God declares us to be righteous through the righteousness of Christ. So do you believe that saving faith is a gift or is it something that we must come up with on our own while still dead in sin, in order to be born again?
Scottles293 1 year ago
Respond to this video... Eph 2:5 seams to echo another verse were it is stated Christ died for us while we were still sinners. One way to see it is from God's point of view... being outside time, when we were still sinners, to Him, we had already been made alive. The words the epistles use always speak of serving Christ voluntarily, not under forced servanthood. I do see the application you make though, and it has got me thinking...I will pray God leads us both to the truth....
giantsfan245 1 year ago
'Religion' is an invention of man. Jesus, the apostles, the followers of that era were not of any denomination aside from being tagged by the Romans as "Christ-ians". The word 'doctrine' means 'teaching' and when we look at 'doctrines of the Christian faith we see hundreds of denominations all based on man's, not God's, interpretation of the holy scripture. Religion is man's attempt of reaching God but true Christianity is a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
paktc 1 year ago 22
@paktc I like it. It's not a religion, but a relationship. I think denominations help some but hurt others. I do think it is a tad(try totally) silly to split up over little details. Though we must admit some denominations have some pretty out-there theology and thus one positive about a denomination is you generally know what to expect.
giantsfan245 1 year ago
@paktc True, ask yourself, what was the religion of Jesus, ignorant people would say He was Jewish, but that's like saying that my religion is Finnish since I am born in Finland and are a finn..
Jesus is the WAY the LIFE and the TRUTH, it's not about religion, it's about a relationship with God trough Jesus. Abraham Didn't have a religion, he was Abraham the hebrew, and he followed the God of the Bible.
Religion will destroy you, Jesus can set you free.
AhoSenpai 1 year ago
@paktc
Christianity is a religion like any other. In fact it started off as a cult. "holy scripture" is all fabricated by man. The entire concept of the biblical god and a "saviour" christ is pure religion in itself.
mcpencil 1 year ago
@paktc so who invented religion then? I know who invented the computer,internet and youtube. you cant make claims with no backing. find out who invented religion and let us all know it.
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