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  • I find this video difficult to masturbate to

  • You certainly could tank as a paladin in vanilla, that doesn't mean you were successful at it.

  • i miss spaming consencration

    

  • if you miss vanilla come at

    vanilla.wow-one.com/

  • No one cares. You're a faggot.

    You suck too.

  • @HisRoyalDudeliness

    id like to see you try do what he's done. ur probably some wrath baby hitting 3-6-3-9 herp derp

  • @Perramino123 Yeah, back then it was 2-4-5-4; much harder.

    Tanking is easy. Period. Roll a real class, kid.

  • @HisRoyalDudeliness lal, you don't get it, tanking is skill, healing is art, dps is science (which you ofc copy paste from a site :) ) This has ALWAYS been the rule. Tanks is the once with the biggest responsiblity in a group, and the once who have to pay for the countless mistakes DPS do, at all times :p

  • @HisRoyalDudeliness lol ok fanboy

  • Oh god... Quel'sarrar or what is is called... The coolest weapon EVER in worldo of warcrat history!

  • How Did You Get Those Weaons?

  • Ahh, good times. You had to spec for consecration in the holy build, and seals wore off after each judgement! Oh, the epic moments. I wish I could travel back 7 years, back when WoW was in the beta, and everyone were noobs in MMO's!

  • I hate what blizz does to prots in cata, luved them in wotlk and bc sooo much

  • faving for old memories sake great vid

  • i miss constant consecration :(

  • devil may cry music ftw :D

  • They were terrible tranks pre-tbc. :P

  • Everyone says how bad WoW is and how much better WoW was with the first expansion. You know, when it took two hours to organize a 30 minute raid. When it took 2 hours to organize a 6 hour raid (IM LOOKING AT YOU MC), and when there was only ONE viable spec per class. Come on, Much better PreBC? I don't think so. Im not saying its perfect now, im saying its BETTER. MUCH better then it was.

  • @johndoz better is a horrrible word to use in describing a game, i'd say the new world of warcraft is more viable for the average gamer, it is much easier now, raids are easier..etc Old pre-tbc was made more for, you could say hard-core gamers, nerds maybe, however described you understand the point.

  • I FUCKING LOVE QUEL'SERRAR

  • pretty damn wel you said ? so why cant you hold the aggro of 4 freaking mob ? goodnight dear "old school pgm" Yah suck'ed

  • Jesus, why are pre-BC vids always laggy as hell?

  • @d0ntr4p3m3 Because Pre-BC was laggy as hell lol

  • What sound track is playing at 5:04 ? I know it's off the game soundtrack CD.

  • yeah, but until you had full t2 or sth similar you were not able to tank raids....... and that was the frustrating part. i tanked all 5er instances as holy paladin in t1, so it wasn't that hard. btw: i played starting with the beta version and canceled a few months ago and played 90% of the time with ma paladin.

  • I am proud to say that my paladin has been a tank since the day he was born at launch :D

  • I was holy before Tbc :P

  • i think cataclysm will be great but i would love to have those good old sword&sorcery style back. Now its more like lightsaber and armageddonspells

  • @clloud42 Indeed.. quite lame some of it atleast..

  • every time blizzard patch wow they makes it more and more shitty

  • @Alesandros356 i understand your nostalgia feeling because i have it too.. but you are also wrong.. a while back i was able to find a wow server perfect copy 100% similar to the last vanila patch before the pre tbc patch rolled in and trust me you could really see the the tbc patch was a huge improvement for the gameplay.. tbh i dont understand why qq people like yourself even play.. you make yourself sound like one who hate the game but is addicted and cant stop..

  • @Xirus5 i stopped the game like 6 months ago because i was tied of the noobish WOTLK so i am not addicted:P

  • @Alesandros356 well to my knowledge you are still here on wow video whineing about patches 6 months later and that speaks for itself...

  • This brings back the good old days. My original toon was a paladin in Vanilla and I leveled him as holy. Back when judgement got rid of your seals and you had to make the most out of your auto attacks =)

  • why can't it still be like this

  • stratholme 20 lvls later = solo

  • I used to play on Smolderthorn :O, horde side tho.

  • i used too pally tank my first serious char and doing mc old naxx it wuz fun o used too sometimes heal to ogain aggro well more i was always at 100% or trieing too get past 80% never below it!!! imagine new wotlk tanks tanking levl 60 endworld.

  • @amberflamesorig lol naxx as a pally tank lol ofc lier

  • Omg Quel'serrar! <3

  • what was a good tanks hp back pre BC? ive always wanted to know that, but was never able to see anybodys health back then

  • @corix213 people who raided top end Naxx had around 7k, people can 1 hit that now, its stupid!! :P

  • i remember my cousin was a paladin tank in prebc, he worked damn hard to get all of his tanking gear and he was a damn good tank aswell, tanking in a 40 man raid, i cant remember which one i was young back then but amazed while watching him play with other people

  • Also, "uncrushable" (aka blockrating capped) was pretty much impossible preBC because gear was almost never highly specialized, and no gem sockets to further specialize your gear. For example a "tanking" item would be Stam/str/agl. By the time you were raiding you might get gear that was Stam/str/defence, and there were a few items with stuff like br, bv, dodge, parry, etc.

    You couldnt get block rating AND defence on all your gear which is what in TBC let paladins become true tanks.

  • Paladins used to be for healing. Not facerolling. Gief back.

  • Pallies were actually quite shit tanks in TBC. At least for raids. You had to balance spelldmg, defense (which you never got capped if you stayed balanced) and HP + ridiculous manaregen and migitation that doesnt match warrior at all. I played paladin back in preTBC. I had tanking gear. I MTd few BWL farm runs. Mostly I was used as OT for some bosses (in case warrior OT couldnt come ect.). Paladin wasnt meant to tank in Pretbc. Ofc you could but, never as well as warrior. Thats a sole fact.

  • * Fixing. By TBC I meant Pretbc. Sorry :)

  • i wish i played back then .. icc is just to easy :/

  • @ithosef what? i loved vanilla as much as the next guy but lk on heroic 25 man is NOT easy.

  • Good thing you didn't show all the time spent drinking would of been there forever

  • I remember when mana wasn't unlimited and nobody had more than 7k health, lol

  • If you guys miss pre-bc , play a private server, molten wow server is pretty good. :)

  • @badfilmer48 Forsangaming or Untold realms are good. Feenix is so fail.

  • I wish I could have been there, I suppose you were wearing mostly offset tanking epics? Did your guild readily give you that gear?

    How did your healers feel about you?

  • @mikenordo healers were probably cheering him on wishing they were him rofl. as well all know, PALLIES ARE ONLY GOOD FOR HEALING PREBC - AS CLEARLY SHOWN BY THIS VIDEO - and for idiots out there. yes that was extreme sarcasm.

    :D

  • LOL when seals faded when u judged ! and seals had only 30 sec ! fun stuff

  • paladins should just be removed from the game

  • @QmanDobbs y

  • Did paladins only had Retribution and holy before The Burning Crusade?

  • @anazorix

    No, all three trees were there, but they weren't viable. As tier gear progressed, it became specialized in only holy.

  • wasnt BC out in 07?

  • Brings a tear of happiness to my eye.

  • See, nowadays when i decided to give WoW another chance, people think you need to be specced completely to do even a normal instance. I ask them, how you think we got it done back in the day before everything got so ubered up? They respond with "noob" i find it really ridiculous some people will yell at you for tanking or healing DEADMINES without being proper spec, you only have like friggin 6-7 talent points by that level

  • Love the Devil May Cry music =P

  • man was pre bc fun when not knowing a lot was still fun and bc too, fun times :/

  • ok yeah the gear was fuckin cool pre BC, but if you say pre BC was better than BC. then you never played it. fuckin you had to play this game like a god damn job to get geared which was horrible. and fuckin 40 man raids.. dont even get me started.

  • @Iamawesomeo666 Thats totally wrong. Had full t2,5 and played parttime only. NOWADAYS, you cant do shit parttime

  • @adney93 No you are very wrong.. I have been playing since wows first beta. you actually had to play this game like a job to get anything done. you can get full ICC gear in no time at all.

  • @adney93

    As much as i liked pre-bc, this is false.  nowadays you can just do pure heroics and get great gear, epics fall like leaves from trees now.

  • @Iamawesomeo666 i just couldnt agree with u more... in bc everyone had their roles, and specs were needed to be mastered not overly spammed classes like we see now. WoW to me has fell off...

  • Gear was so cool!

  • Either your healer(s) sucks ass or you're statement about pallys doing well with tanking pre-bc is false. As metsfan92286 said, you were always oom, low on HP and your group was pulling aggro off you left right and center. I do agree about pallys being OP as tanks now (as I have one and out dps my entire raid most of the time), but we can all be thankful that in Cataclysm they are making it so you will need CC again! tho im sure most people have forgotten what CC is in PvE lol

  • wait pretbc it was without taunt or prot tree ? why the so only diference between priest twas that they wore plate

  • How did paladins tank before 2.0? Pretty damn well actually...

    Cut to the mage nearly dying by overaoeing 30 seconds later.

  • Miss pre-bc guys? Want to go back and redo all the old raids? Check out my video for my new up and coming pre-bc Alliance guild on Andorhal(US)

  • @PreBcTimeMachine no naxx and no ony ruins the idea of a prebc guild

  • I'm sorry but all this shows was how horrible prot paladins were pre-BC. You only hit a button once every 10-15 seconds, you are constantly oom and/or dying, and your group is constantly pulling agro, and the mobs are dying before you can get agro back.

    Not saying it's your fault, you did the best you could with the tools you had, and the gear available to you (there wasn't much in the way of paladin "tank gear"), but to say that paladins tanked "pretty damn well" pre-bc is simply not true.

  • What armor is he using in this video?

  • @OBell95 D2, Quel Serrar, Drillborrer shield, t2 boots t2 gloves, Dungeon 2 gear (in the begining)

    int he strathole heis using drillborrer disk, mandokirs's sword, looks like some d2 and d1, also looks like hes wearing t1 shoulders and belt, but im not sure bpout the belt

  • Wotlk had 3 bg's if you count wintergrasp, then Isle of conquest,and strand of ancients

  • Hrm, I see a few things wrong here...

    I see the Divine Plea spell, as well as the Blessing of Sacresty (or whatever) and the holy sheild spell... I am not saying this is fake, but I don't ever remember those spells being in Classic WoW...Tell me if I'm wrong.

  • Where do you see Divine Plea? And Holy shield and Blessing of Sanctuary was in Classic too.. But Paladins rarely tanked..

  • i think what u see as bneing divine plea is exorsism or a macro he made, but holy shield and BOS was pre tbc

  • its sanctuary it was in it just sucked more and also theres no divine plea there plus i think holy shield was in aswell

  • those were the good days. when gear looked uber cool and av required an IQ over 20.

  • hey now av requires over 21 its been proven age limit more than anything

  • @herogamer555 dont forget the days before the dk, still I would argue gears cooler now, lol AV peel the onion!

  • Note that this is after righteous fury was put into the game. Before that, a pally tank was even more laughable at the time. no taunt, no threat, no mana regen like divine plea+imp talent, holy shield, etc.

  • I miss Prebc :(

  • @RsmvMadMAN join vanilla wow :D

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  • who would let a pally tank MC? they out of there mind?

  • even if you say they were good pre-bc, no one would let a paladin main tank, let's say AQ, warriors did it infinite times better

  • there simply wasn't gear to tank as a pally, tree was fucked up and you didn't have enough tools to generate threat

  • and one example of bad gear was you being critted by trash mobs

  • @LinkLover892 I agree - while you could ninja that non-set warrior items (like i did) and rely on a trusty Quel'Serrar and Chrommagus shield (which i was lucky enough to get) there wasn't much that had the stats you needed in order to generate enough aggro to make you a viable tank.

    On the other hand, holding aggro wasn't a problem - once you had the mob in possession. That was the tricky bit.

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  • I just got a respec from ret to prot so if anyone could tell me which they think is the best ret prot or holy plz attach a vid with it but so far my luck on bein a prot sucks cuz i can't get a good shield or sword

  • lvlign is better with ret,

    but groups are alot easier to find as prot or holy.

  • i like prot cause i feel like a god and i get groups super fast. u can buy a good enough stuff from the ah. then do dungeons that drop better stuff

  • nice dmc theme song

  • thats funny tanking before it was cool

  • i think that classic raids should be back with 40 mans and hard as hell bosses that u have to have skill to kill, pvp should be balanced the way it was in tbc, and pve should be that only 1-2 guilds per server can down the end boss not every noob guild that want to raidand dont no what the fuck to do... and no trash epics like kara or naxx shit in wotlk...

  • ok tanking as a palladin pre tbc and being good at it is considered skill

  • I think they should remove pally taunt. No one uses it anyway cuz they got cc

  • what about in a raid and a huntard over aggros? then thats when taunt is used

  • @Isuck232 i use it....

  • Taunt is a waste of mana Use CC so you can keep aggro and help dps

  • @Isuck232 it's not a waste of mana, if youre lvl 65 and have to tank the dmg of a lvl 70 warlock and lvl 70 hunter ^_^

    but i did a good job

  • Thats the only reason youd really need to Unless some twink comes in

  • isnt that just a prove that paladins don't need a taunt to tank?

  • @ Isuck232

    Do you know what you're talking about? Taunt has a number of uses, and it costs practically no mana. I, as a paladin tank myself, use it on pulls... if somebody takes aggro randomly, and to pick up adds that just spawned.

    L2P.

  • they didnt have hand of reckoning back then...only righteous defense...hence u cant pull with that...

  • Ok, Dethklok , you didn't even read what I was typing. I never said "omg, back in pre BC I used taunt to pull." No. I was replying to Isuck's comment about taunt being useless NOW.

  • ikr i'm a pally tank to i mean if pally's didn't have taunts why do dungeons...:p

  • i think pre bc was the most fairest of all the expansions because pallys couldnt do everything and the damage wasnt so jacked up and it took some skill to play your class cuz not everything was handed to you

  • pre-bc was not an expansion, was original smart one.

  • Most fair? Yeah right. Classic was buggy, and not to mention imbalanced. All the pve'rs whine that resilience ruined pvp, while a level 60 warrior in 5/5 high warlord or GM with ashkandi could oneshot people. I'm someone that has played since 2005, and I'm quite satisfied with TBC and WOTLK now. I wouldn't want classic back that badly.

  • wotlk isn't that fun, made me quit... TBC is my fav.

  • Oh ye, and TBC/WotLK WEREN'T imbalanced.

    TBC wise, you pretty much had to be either an Arms Warrior or a Resto Druid to compete in 2v2.

    WotLK wise, burst damage is so imbalanced for some classes (e.g. Mage, Rogue and Warlock), and underpowered classes (e.g. Hunters, Warriors etc) are being nerfed again and again all the time.

  • how could you tank with no taunts n stuff

  • It's called building aggro ;)

  • Lol get ur facts right in pre tbc it was a 10 man raid -.-

  • one of the only skilled pre tbc pally tanks

  • wow. pre bc tank

  • Where did you get that from???

    Paladin Tanks are actually thought to be quite overpowered now with the passive cooldown. Warriors are pretty much the same as the other tanks, they just sometimes have a harder time doing enough Threat per second.

  • Warriors dont have a problem with Tps people just prefer aoe based tanks....

  • nah you suck at wow pally tank is leet

  • are you kidding me prot warriors suck as of patch 3.2 compared to a tankadin warrs get raped

  • U forgot 'bout dk ;d

  • DK tank is fucking trash, get the fuck out of here kid, dont just roll a class for easy exp, level from 1 to 80 noob

  • Rofl, you need to get 55 by enother char to get dk fool -.-"... I think you never playd WoW at 80lvl or u r noob gold farmer only...

  • Daiki - Jaedenar, US Armory :] lvl 80 mage, holyshocklol 74 healadin, Jaedenar, I dont play wow at 80 eh?

  • Xp was buffed in BC for leveling, your a noob no matter how you level. 1-80 isnt hard anymore, so stfu.

  • LOL. Fucking retard. You're seriously hating on DK's because they start at lvl 55? It's called a hero class, retard.

  • lmao you are a retard my friend

  • I agree that DK tanks suck atm. They currently have damage spike on them at random intervals, and badly too.

    I'd perfer to tank as a Paladin, Warrior or Druid anyday.

  • TBh, druids and paladins are now the best tank considered by many theory crafters, so what are you blabbling bout?

    Warriors and DK's come close.

  • ROTATION: Conc, holy shield, judgement, seal... ?

  • nah, something like:

    ShoR -> HS -> HotR -> Judge -> ShoR -> Consecration -> HotR

  • Dude strat was 10 man PRE patch 1.10- be4 u could upgrade dungeon sets to epic, now less crap talk and get some clue be4 talking shit.

    And yes again... it was raid

  • ''Tank'' you.

    By the way, you make pretty goods 3d roller coaster vids.

  • Strat was a 10 man raid and UBRS was a 15 man raid...blizzard changed it so that strat went down to a 5 man and UBRS down to 10 man.

    Clearly you havent played wow back in the "good old days"

    It took ages to fill the whole raid up with players thats one of many reasons why the blue items at that time was indeed "rare" and pruple items "epic" not like tbc and wotlk trash epics :P

  • I can agree on the wotlk trash epics, but tbc was still harder then wotlk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wotlk sucks, and I am going to write tickets to blizz 'till they make them tbc/pre-tbc servers!

  • yeah would be ncie every think back to pre-tbc... just ONE server....

  • just 1 BG for each expansion.

  • @aramco123 wotlk had 2 bgs guy

  • I agree the first and 2nd part,

    BUT HOW THE FUCK COULD A SHAMAN OR AN HUNTER WOULD TANK ?

    PET? TOTEMS ? LOL WUT ?

  • I didn't say Shamans or Hunters could tank, I said that they had the better deal overall back then.

  • Lol ur a scrub. Pallys are good healers (id pefer druids tho) but stfu, cuz id like u to tank at 60 as a pally. see how hard it is (personally it was actually easy when i was playing my pally, but maybe cuz grp was lacking dps )

  • No, pallys were shit healers, the only reason they had to go holy was because that spec was the least shit.

    Yes tanking as a paladin at level 60 was difficult, because they are so shit they hold aggro like a hunter using feign death, and stay alive like a level 1 rabbit.

  • ya pally tanks were a pain to heal back then but awsum tanks

  • Ah the good day's, there you atleast had to work to get something done, in pre-bc legends could be made...bah hate bc and wotlk..ruined everything.

  • another fantastic video, most of the boons commenting here have absolutely no idea how challenging lvl 60 tanking was, i was a warrior tank at 60 pre tbc and i could no where near match this threat generation!

  • stratholme was a 5man group pre bc Oo

  • History lesson: all the instances started out with no level cap. You could 40-man everything.

    The caps were first introduced in patch 1.3, limiting most instances to 10 players and Blackrock Spire to 15.

    In patch 1.10 (the patch after AQ came out), the caps were lowered again to what we know today. All dungeon instances were now capped at 5 people except Blackrock Spire, which was capped at 10 - long before Burning Crusade ever came out.

  • Pre-BC for lyfe.

  • Pally's sucked shit Pre-BC

  • One question- what did you do about mana regen for long fights? Just use SOW/judge?

  • whats the sword in the beginning please

  • it looks like quel'sarar

    the sword from a long chain quest

  • is the quest chain still out there

  • I hate how the older game content aren't played simply because the drops aren't worth anything anyomre. Why not do the same thing to everything as they did with Naxx (only for like outlands instances/ raids and Pre BC Raids.

  • I play them I have my cousins guild get their asses off the new shit and come do the old shit cause i like the old shit more lol

  • I remember protadins pre 2.0. They had no taunt, the only damage they could do was consecration and judgement. No survival cooldowns either

  • At least they could without any taunt abilities so they are pretty damn talented

  • prot pallies were horrible, enough said. this guy can hardly tank dire maul... haha

  • ANd now look...up there with the warriors in threat generation.

  • Why was this downranked? All this person did was tank 5 mans and trash in raids. That's not very impressive. Protection paladins were vastly inferior to warrior tanks when tanking bosses in raids, since paladins were designed to heal pre-BC.

  • I miss Vinala WOW! :(((((

  • Why if it stayed the way it was ppl would have left everything changes for the worse and the best blizz has a dream of what wow should be and are constntly tweeking everyday

  • I miss vinalla WoW...

  • Like warrios are any better now... :/

  • i remember this song from DMC3 great song choice!!

  • There was no taunt..? fail =/