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  • nvidia rulez

  • nvidia ftw

  • AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+

    2.01GHz

    is this an good processor?

  • I know I'll be yelled @ for saying this but... who cares what does better I get 60+ FPS on my single ATi Radeon 4870 ( not even over-clocked ). me and my friends say " just stick with the brands you like and who the fuck cares " I also love to watch these videos to LOL @ the fanboys that clusterfuck these video xD

  • The ATi looks better quality wise, the Geforce gets more frames.

    I'd tak the ATi.

  • Hee uuhm i really thinking about buying a new videocard but i play more 3rd shooter games like Call of duty series etc. Wanna buy Bad company 2 only problem is my videocard sucks (8600GS) so can you help me buying videocard please !

  • Get a GTX260, or and ATI 5970, that's a monster card. If you have 300$ to spend, get the GTX295.

  • i have ati 4850 with 512mb

    and it's running really bad

    even on low graphics

  • EVGA PWNS

  • ATi is cheaper than nVIDIA but ATi have good performance.....

  • The Benchmark scores for Vantage Don't seem right, On my GTX 275 OC i scored 15,123K so how is the GTX 280 scoring 11K? That doesn't add up to me, anyone else with a GTX 200 Series GPU see this as well?

  • @illmagnified those scores depend not only on the gpu but on gpu AND cpu. so you might have a better cpu that was used in the benchmark

  • ATI Rulzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • @emergentindia YES IT DOES!

  • ati has some great porformance in games

  • for me, price is not the problem, the most important things are Qualities and Performances between both NVIDIA and ATI Cards. Well i should say, both cards are great~!

  • i think it really depends on the graphics engine

  • In Countries like Argentina is by far cheaper to buy the best nvidia card than the worst ati. The price of a 295gtx is like the half of a hd 4870 crossfire.

  • For AA x0 Is the best 295gtx, FOR AAx16 or x8 the best is HD4870x2!

  • Nvidia 4ever

  • ati is much better than nvidia!

    more afordable prices, much advanced tecnology...

    with the launch of the 5000 series nvidia lost the 1st place in graphics card manufacter...

    ATI ALL THE WAY!!!!

  • ye your saying ati are better because they have the lead in technology on the market, watch what will happen wen nvidia's gt300 series are out, they will be on top again until ati bring out theyre newer cards in the distant future

  • but the problem is that not everyone has money to buy the EXPENSIVE upcoming gt300

  • normally i would have the same problem, but its just lucky for people that they can save after christmas to get the expensive gt300 series, if i dnt get the 300 series id probably be looking at a gtx 285 and later on sli them

  • if ur buying sli gtx 285 ur going asshole...

    ive bought a 5850 ( didnt arrived yet) and it beats the heck out of the gtx285 and it costs much less :P

    thats why i like ati, because they have LOTS of models and cheap prices

  • lol doubt it, if the 5850 would beat the gtx 285 it would only just beat it and if the gtx 285 is in sli it would have no chance but it would give the 5970 a good run for its money if not beat it, i like nvidia for the physx support, if they didnt have physx id probably buy the hd 5870

  • 5870 is a nice choice, 5970 is too expensive yet... gtx285 sli is not worth it nowadays

  • yeah but price of nvidia's cards will be the double of ati's...

  • well that must be for a reason:)

  • both ATi n nVidia r good cards tho~

    I love ATi because its mostly affordable with various price range n a lot of choices in each series.

    nVidia is great too, greater quality for greater price ... honestly. Thts y its price went above.

    anyway - i really love if both card being compared when the new nVidia gtx300 series is out. Cuz its fair to have BOTH GDDR5 . fair n square .... yea!

  • Please try to be honest one time in your life guys, you always say that Nvidia is better but where??? Have you seen this contest?? Nvidia wins only at low resolutions and without AA activated , to all the people saying that Nvidia has better drivers I simply answer that it's not correct, Nvidia plays a dirty game in the industry paying software houses to put Ati in a bad view , look at Batman Arkham Asylum example, they do their best to make problems to Ati with Anti Aliasing,

  • all i can say that nvidia did what they did for a tactical advantage, ati didnt have the technology at the time to accommodate batman like nvidia did, in my eyes nvidia will always have the upper advantage wen it comes to graphics cards as they have full physx support on practically all of their cards out on the market, until ati step it up on the physx side i really cant see them being leaders or on par with nvidia

  • dont get me wrong i do think the standard of the new ati 5000 series is great but it still wont be at nvidia's higher standard with the upcoming gt300 series

  • nvidia all the way

  • great video man, Thumbs up for ATI :D

  • Brasil !!!

  • 2048MB VRAM>1792MB VRAM

    ATI FTW!!!

  • ati is the faster card on paper but on games ati gets slightly owned. However IMO ati card looks way cooler XD

  • I disagree.

    NVIDIA is way more better, more stabilized.

    ATI focus on quality and performance,

    NVIDIA on stability and performance.

    ATI may be cheaper and NVIDIA bit more money, although NVIDIA has better drivers. ATI has specific drivers for specific versions, like 4800 only.

    And btw, NVIDIA already have 9800 GX2. Way more better ;).

  • wow man great vid!

  • Nvidia es un poco "farsante" por que para hacer el antialiasing enborrona los serruchos. Sin embargo ati añade mas definicion (como si le dieras mas resolucion). Ganaria ati (si no me creeis mirar benchmarks de juegos sin aa

  • i have 4870x2 and i play crysis and crysis warhead on very high with anti aliasing x8 very smooth...more than 30 fps average...now i will sell it and i will get a 5870 2 gb when it comes out and then i will crossfire it with a 5870x2 when it also comes out...

  • 5870 is already out

  • 2gb version not...

  • yep,its 1 gb only,is that better than 295?

  • no...it has better graphic cause of directx11 but its not better from gtx295 or 4870x2...

  • that would be nice,im still thinking which i get,the 5870 or the 295..

  • i would say wait for the 5870 2 gb or 5870x2[which will be out next month]...or if you are an nvdia fun wait for the g300 but g300 is only at words right now...nothing sure...

  • 295 is better... the 5870 is for the DirectX 11, but the GTX 295 is better... i have one HD 4870 x2 and two GTX 295... they are great but the GTX 295

  • ati drivers sucks....go for nvidia...

  • i never try ati before,but ati is cheaper than nvidia,im gonna wait the fermi,instead get 2 295 or the asus mars

  • no... the gtx 295 is a little better... but the 5870 is mor cheaper, and very good too...

    i have one HD 4870 x2 and two GTX 295, and they are great... the 5870 is a very good GPU and is for the Directx 11, but the 295 is better.

  • i Agree whit raimps201, Ati cards have a higher min Fps rader then nvidia cards. and also Ati cards are better at AA then nvidia.i got the 4870 x2 my self and i love it.

  • both cards are good, but ati is more effective than nvidia on AA tho i personally like Nvidia

  • i think the 4890 is still better and colder then the 4870X2

  • ati wins at the better image quality so fak nvidia

  • ati alwayz win on 8xaa max res...or most of the time

  • look on the diff between nvidia and ati crysis pic.,...in the nvidia there's a missin snow patch that shows on ati to the right of the screen!!

  • awwh the idiot that said that 16xq aa is for nvidia alone blah blah....dumbshyt ati got 24x edge detectin wtf who's the idiot now

  • how did you aime exactly at the same spot on each game?

  • The ATI beat nVidia in almost every x4 or x8 anti analising so if the rest of your computer specs can handle higher grapghics its reccommened to get the ATI 4870hd

  • the nvidia gtx 295 is two GTX 260s, and i'm not too satisfied with its performance.

  • this video is old therefore gtx 295 drivers are from when they were having driver trouble try this again with the new drivers and see what happens

  • ati look way better in every game its the winner

  • Of course.

    4870 TIMES 2.

  • gtx 295 is 2 gtx 275

  • 2 gtx 260

  • no , u dont no much in videocard , the GTX 295 IS 2 GTX275 WTF DFWM

  • haha ask any one noob

  • i got a gtx 260 and a 4870 x2 the gtx 260 is faster then a gtx 275 and crossfire better . sli u get what 30 % with ati crossfire its like 80 %

  • ooooo no look at the processing cores gtx 260 as 216 gtx 275 240 the gtx 295 as 480 cores who`s the noob now and price wood make no sense cheeper to 2 way sli the gtx 260 than buying a gtx 295 wtf

  • GTA 295 is better for the most on everything but i agree GTX 295 cost more but they havent balanced the ATI graphic card so it really can get a way to hot and damage it self big time. so if u want to have ATI u need a lot of good and expansive cooling and breeze so u can say the ATI even cost more money then the GTX 295.

  • just run the 4870x2 cards fans at a higher speed.

  • nvidia gtx 295 crashes ati

  • yeah, nvidia usually comes out on top, but ati is cheaper and not too far behind, thats the argument really.

  • you guys are really lucky, thank god everyday for being born in a good country - where i live, we need to pay 3x to 4x the price of each component for the computer.

    if you want a good computer here, you need to wait months and months after the components are released and pay almost 5 thousand for a nice pc

  • Ati beats Nvidia in large situations due to the fact that they have more steam processors but if you play a calm game then nvidia will get more fps

  • Just see 2560x1600 4xAA/16xAF

    ATI is the best on this.

    And look at the FPS

    Like they say:

    "Our blood run at 60 FPS"

  • i didnt no theres a cod 5 but i do know of a cod:waw lol people get it straight

  • Nuovi ATI Catalyst™ 9.9

  • Ho già ribadito più volte che questi benchmarks sono veri.... se non ci credete è un problema vostro, non mio.

    Un' altra cosa... il fatto che io abbia un ATI Radeon HD4870X2 (e ne sono molto contento perchè è un ottima scheda)... non mi da comunque il diritto di mettere dei benchmarks falsi, non avrebbe senso!

    Il mio scopo era semplicemente di mettere a confronto l'ati hd4870x2 con altre schede, tutto qui!

  • song name?

  • Rise up

  • I also prefer ATI over nVidia because ATI cards tends to consume less power and cost less compared to their closest competitor and plus, when it comes to AA and AF ATI seems to do much better.

  • sorry i am hungarian and the translate program is sh.t

    and i not know your words :S

  • Look at him onto the tests the ati will be a stronger video card with the expense of all newer drivers.

    It nvidia though as I looked at the test little graphics wastes it the 4870x2 that it back up brings for. ( for example crysis warhead 2560x1600 ) did not start the gtx295 vainly lei the ground it nvidia.

    But these cards onto the future for obsolete ones can be said the then. This particularly concerns the current nvidia gts and gtx2xx onto a series.

  • U musta been stoned as when you wrote that.... dusnt make sense dude, im sure you meant well, just to baked

  • hahahahahahaha

  • LOL ATI is just shit: I explain...

    I got a laptop with an old configuration:T7200 2Ghz nVidia 7300 GO 512MB and 2GB of RAM

    My friend bought a new pc: C2D @ 2.66GHZ, ATI HD 4650 512MB and 2GB of RAM

    I can run Spring on 1280x800 on very high settings at an average of 70 FPS and he can only run this game on 1024x768 on very low at 30FPS.

    He got the lastest drivers but well ATI sucks...

  • shut the fuck up... some games are fucking optimized for nVidia... so shut the fuck up before you start flaming good companies the 295 was brought in coz the 4870X2 was too ownage.

  • @danieltian Are you stupid? Technology goes on..

    By saying ''295 gtx only got in because of 4870X2''

    Then whats the reason for ATI making 4870x2 retard?

  • @TheXordinary reason was simple : to pwn any demanding shitgame

  • because you bought a low end graphic card idiot go for the 4870 or 4890

  • Yes. Coming in september or october the directx11 ati. 5870 is better than the gtx285 :P

  • the 5870x2 is even better then the gtx295

  • how would you know it's not even out yet!

  • The ati is more lasting. The dx10.1. Will be the 5870 stronger one than the gtx285. Then in cf? And that coming in sept. end or october, and cheaper. 299 dollar the 5850 and +60% faster than the 4850

  • yea, but i didnt understand very most in the beginning but i think i do XD. well i know the ati 5870 is gonna be really good maybe just 1 5870 isnt better the gtx 295 but in using the 5870 x2 then its better. or maybe 2 5870 and 5850 is still faster the 4850 yes :)

  • Just you wait until ATi releases the world's first DX11 dual GPU card!

  • Run this test today and then see!

  • what is better for 1920x1080

  • Well, The Games I Play Are From Ubisoft,THQ,EA,Rockstar Games and The Games I Play Work Better On My 4890

  • and Ati win coz in this video Nvidia GF GTX295 dont have drivers,Nvidia is better

  • pls what s the name of song??

  • rise up by yves larock.

  • These are so pointless. I can vary my rigs with either card in and tweak the settings to give a specific result either way. So easy to steer these tests. Massively game engine dependant.

  • I prefer the Ati, not because I´m a fan but the Ati is cheaper and has nearly the same power. No way nVidia, fix your prices !!!

  • ATI will pwn

    nice cards ;)

  • shut the fuck up ati 4890 rules !!! period! 4890 X2  will be the best card ever so stop

  • Really good benchmark! 5*.

  • fanboiis sucks too!!

  • luian90 just stop!

    Seriously! I mean you're calling people retarded and can't even spell the damn word correctly.

    And you obviously can't read.

    In my comment there is a period after crysis.

    I was referring to Call Of Duty Modern Warfare, but in abbreviations. Which you apparently don't understand.

    So do yourself a favor... stay off the computer, go back to school and learn yourself some English.

  • ok let me make it i had just came back form a club so i was kind of sleepy this is what i meant... crysis has a frame lock of 140 frames per second so its not possible that u cant play with that chip as card with such high frames so thats what i meant alright>?

  • Nice Benchmarks!

    Great Video!

    Good Song!

    ATI FTW!! =)

    Every game i run with my ATI HD 4870x2 I destroy, including Crysis.

    And i average 150fps in CODMW with max settings 4x AA. 1680x1050 res.

  • what are u stupid kid? crysys has a frame lock of 1540 so thats a lie and the gtx 295 theres no card that can match ut and defenaly not thus card so ur in crack or someshit haha 15p on average?? ur stupid as fuck man

  • WOW!

    You are a complete blithering fucking idiot.

    You completely wrecked the English language, and on top of that your argument has no valid point. It makes absolutely no sense at all and you have no business even replying to anyone's comments when you can't even complete a fucking sentence.

    You should just pick up your keyboard and beat yourself to death with it.

    That would be a better use for it than typing.

    You FAIL!

  • You Nvidiot

  • haha ur retarted dude the first message u ddint even send it to me ahahahaha man people this days are retarted right? umm i just said theres no way such a small card like this can run crysis at those frames is that wrong>?? so fuck u u low life haha u reply me right and u have no fucking bussines replying others peoples comments so fuck u kid go out side and play or somehting

  • Well I am very confused... In some benchmarks the GTX 295 does very well on massive resolutions, and suddenly it gets 4fps on stalker???? WHICH SHOULD I BUY???????

  • What resolution your using? Mobo? RAM? CPU? How much money you can spend for it?

  • for all fanboys, get a life and don't be so choosy, buy any graphics card which is cheaper.

  • ATi is way better!!! The GTX 295 does beat the 4870 x2 in some benchmarks but by like a few fps, and the 4870 x2 rules when running games in ultra high settings. Over all, the 4870 x2 is way more balanced out then the gtx 295, I mean, who the hell is going to waste $300 - $500 and not want to run there games at high settings. That's just stupid!!

  • Yeah I agree that the GTX295 Wins in all relevant to gameplay in the realworld But only in SLI the nachine I have with the i7 920 and Crossfire on qxvga and xvga at higest resolution comes close to the speed of sli but is not at all noticeable to the eye the benchmark picks it up but as for real world all benchmark softs are biased. as for the nuitbag in here that said that nvidia is still in the stone age well do you think so.

  • Allo, ive got a 1650 x 1025 screen and i play the games GTA4 counter strike source AA3 and im gonna get some other games that come out but what card should i choose thats good for GTA4 and css and for the future games? and what motherbord would be the best for ATi or nvidia thats good for the videocard? and im sure gonna get a 3x2 GB drr3

    so yeah please help :o i've done many research but hope that one of u can help me :)

    PS: im gonna get a i7 920 :)

  • ATi love high resolution and AA better than nVidia cards so if you are running 1920x1200 or higher.... ATi is your best bet :)

  • they are both excellent cards. people who are running these cards in crossfire or SLi are tripping out. you seriously only need one of these cards to play every game ever made at an extremely high quality except maybe crysis. i have the 4870x2 and a friend of mine just got a 295. we both agree the differences are hard to pick when actually playing games. which after all is what there designed for. only difference is the x2 is cheaper.

  • GTX 295 in SLI vs HD 4870x2 in CroosfireX GTX 295 wins easy,because SLi are faster than crossfireX

    but GTX 295 and hd4870x2 alone,i dont know =/ i think is GTX 295 too because they have CUDA,and more technologies....

  • 4870X2 Is better for high Res. Monitors,while the GTX 295 is better for 1080p and lower.

  • actually, if you play a game that actually uses scaling like SLI and Crossfire, crossfire is better, but because the gtx 295 is more powerful in the first place it wins. Also, the 295 is 140 more than the ati, so it damn site better be better.

  • GTX 295 and 4870x2, 4870 wins. it really depends games, other system, parts, and what kind card you get. monday cards suck. good cards own.

  • listen vlenbo after u oc nvidia now try play with this broken crap play about 5 hours and then tell how meny times u card freeez. and check temp too couse u crd will burn , nvidia will freez 70 c..

  • hey nvidia fans whay is ndidia still in stone ages? if ati have ddr5 themn anvidia have still ddr3 its lagg and nvidia still dont support video "IN" even dx 10.1 suport , how can u say that nvidia is better , and 1 thing more nvidia have not quality at all if fraps show 50 fps then in realtime is less then 20 fps i tested couse im forsed to use 8800 gt and . nvidia cant draw dx10 picture better than ATI. if temp will rise close to 70 then nvidia freez totally, but ATI will work 90c 100%

  • Nvidia pay a lot of money just for to say that is the best VGA i got a Nvidia 295 and a 4870x2 with a gigabyte ep45-ud3p and a Q9650 the ati with the new drivers kick the nvidia

  • yep u r right couse nvidia makes money only commercial.. bat actually cant nothing.

  • Nuovi Driver: ATI Catalyst™ 9.7

  • hey everyone, im pretty new to video cards, im 13 <.< but i got a new computer for my bday and it has two ati radeon hd 3450 video cards, is that good? cuz i gotta play cod4 on lowest res, and i get about 50 fps. is that good? :(

  • umm thats not that great sorry

    try making the screen resolution bigger

    sometimes that makes a difference :P

  • Sorry, but it's not too impressive. You can try updating the drivers on ATI's website to see if you can get a little more frames per second. If Call of Duty is all you're playing then you should be fine.

  • yes 50 fps is pretty good. I f you want to play at higher resolutions and run the game as smooth as possible you may need to consider a new GPU mate.

  • did you ever try to, well I don't know, overclock both cards and see what better performance they get? fanboys, fanboys, fanboys, just shut the hell up, nvidia has wins, ati has wins, their drivers suck, but they still make up for it, nvidia sucks cause of price, but don't bitch about it, you decide which you want. who know maybe these benchmarks are fake, lets see..you try the cards yourselves, and then choose the one you like, ati and nvidia benchmarks are not to be trusted 100 of the time.

  • The problem with the 4870x2 is the drivers, they are not good, the nvidia drivers make the most of the card.

  • the 4870 X2 is better its just it needs a better driver , the specs of it are amazing compared to the 295 , if ati releses a good drive It will smoke the 295 by a lot and they know it. but nvidia Fan's always will say Nvidia is better idk why.

  • omg 4870x2 is best bang for buck but its not fair to compare to a 600 dollar card

  • Nvidia is the best

    buying cheaper is not always very good decision

  • True ,

    i am only using Nvidia Card ...

    Because they Rocks !

  • Is fake , HD 4870x2 is best! xDDDDDDD

  • right!!

  • it depends on what game you are talking about...if you talk about gta iv then yes it will...

  • ye and what's better visually?...2xaa, no aa 4x aa or 8x aa which ati excels at...it's said that in every game... the ati's streamed processors aren't unleashed until u set it to 8xaa :D

  • GTX 295 all ready beat the 4870x2

  • ATI dominates because they are not greed money-makers like Nvidea who make a slightly better card (GTX290-295) and rase the price by £50. I'm soon to be getting a HD 4890 which is better than the 9800 and it's only £120! Thanks ATI!

  • Best graphics card: Sapphire ATi Radeon HD 4870x2..

  • USUAL STORY! NVIDIA MAKES A CARD $500 MORE FOR THE SAKE OF AN AVERAGE 20 MORE FRAMES PER SECOND THEN AN ATI.

    LOL AT ALL THE SUCKERS BUYING AN NVIDIA CARD. p.s. Plus all ati benchmarks dont include AA or highest settings which is rediculas!

  • that's why at high res and aa...the 4870x2 unleashes it's full potential in 2terflops....and excel at the higher res.

  • the 4870x2 is the fastest card out there..for it is the only card that makes crysis playable at the highest possible aa settings....4870x2 beats the gtx 295 at 8xaa and 1600p..hands down...the gtx 295 only gets higher 3dmark vantage scores bcuz it is disguised as a gpu and a physics processor in 1....and it exels at lower settings becuz of the ati powerplay feature...this is used when the card doesn't think it's being pushed so it down clock itself....

  • i agree with you madzane94 ;) aa x8+1600x1050 resolutions and above+4870x2...rules

  • currently im just playing crysis with my gtx295 at 16xq (which is specially made for nvidia, sorry poor atidiots..) and it is smooth as hell and also all of the other settings are set as very high. so what is the fuss about?

  • Dual gtx 295's verse the dual 4870 the 295 would dominate it.

  • 2 Hd 4870 x2 , would shit on 295.

  • Ati is better at AA but most games run faster on Gtx cuz it has faster shaders!!!!

    Ati more memory Nvidia faster card!!! lol google bechmarks!

  • GOD! The GTX295 was released purely to compete with 4870x2! Doesnt matter that it came out later, it just had taken longer for nvidia to release the card.

  • ati readon is better than geforce on big anti alising

  • but worst for all openg aplications....it sucks very hard....

  • i also run a 9500gt 512mb, for physics

  • had 4870x2, had many problems, got very hot. now have gtx295, and its way better.you cant benchmark these cards with a crap cpu, these cards are mainly designed for core i7, because there are big bottle necks, so if you test these cards with core i7, at around 3.2ghz+ , with decent ram, the gtx295 is the better card. i had both cards, ans crysis performs way better with gtx295...i luv it, and will keep it for some time. i run it with Q9450 @ 3.4ghz. but really need core i7

  • regret buying HD4850... wish i had nvidia.

  • does it sucks? tell me please...

  • ATI blows the socks of Nivida again! Nvida are now about one year behind ATI. ATI DX11 in the next few weeks!

  • no, ati is dicklicking, the cards break after 2 years, nvidia cards work until years after they go obselete, and beleive me, that takes a while, u pulled these benches off of google, VERY amature. conduct benchmarks of your