in england sometimes its usually religion like catholics or protestants or rivalry because of an incident between two teams or two areas but my team southampton they are rivals with portsmouth and that was because of dock workers in the 30's from portsmouth were protesting for better pay and conditions and then southampton said to bring the ships to their dock and portsmouth worker didn't like it and the rivalry caught on into football and there on
Rabid soccer fans really need to find another hobby. It's pathetic to be beating and hurting others just because a team won or lost. Get civilized--this is why Americans don't give a crap about it...
And unlike the commercialized US sports, football has always kept its local rivalries, their fans are like gangs that live by the reputation of their team. And like rivalries between gangs, it can get ugly when the tensions are high
It's the number 1 sport in 99% of the world, of which 90% is poor and for them Football (soccer) is the one thing they can use to get over their trouble, and be as one behind their team as one big family. As many of the teams are representative for their neighborhoud, city, country etc. They are the local pride, the thing you get identified by. In many countries the strenght of their soccer team is more important than many things in life, they breath it, live it.
I also think that people are confusing passion with irrational fanaticism... Australian Rules Football (a form of football very different to the English game) has very passionate fans (in fact the teams have some of the highest attendance averages in any football code in the world), and most of them are concentrated in various camps within Melbourne. Yet they don't get violent... I personally think this is because soccer is a very frustrating game to watch in comparison with other football codes
@sanzar you got the point... football (soccer/calcio.. etc) is a game dominated by deep frustration and by incontroallable euforia... is a game of irrational emotions.. and basicly i think it is because maybe is one of the most difficult games to play... to score a goal requires more team work and skills that maybe any other sport... so when you're team scores a goal gave you a tremendous dose of adrenalin. and by the other hand, is a sport so unpredfictible.. is the king of sports period
I agree the emotional pay off for fans is very high, but I personally just find it a painful sport to watch... in most sports the referee is irritating, but in soccer he is often responsible for the result (and this does not reflect which was the better team much of the time). This, combined with the fact that the sport is virtually non-contact, reduces the potential vicarious outlet of the fan and increases the propensity for violent breakouts.
yeah.. you are totally right... but i think maybe that's part of it's charm.. that's why the FIFA don't want to allow technology in the referee's desitions.. because they want to mantain the human, and often unjustice, part of the game...
is a discution that will be on top in the upcoming years
I personally think that's pretty sad... if a game is your "way of life", then it just proves you live vicariously rather than having the balls to actualise your own achievements. We pity kids who become World of Warcraft fanatics and put their health at risk as a result, and we should similarly pity a soccer fan who thinks that violence is a rational course of action in supporting his multi-million dollar multinational corporation of a soccer team.
@warriorprince1010... It is getting better in America as well. A lot of teams make it hard for rival fans to purchase tickets and there is a larger Police presence after Championship games now.
It doesn't matter where we live if enough young drunk males get together unimpeded bad things are going to happen.
@warriorprince1010 ye, not like the 80's fucking hell those were bad times xD not all you get is a spotty 15 year old chav shouting abuse at old people, women and kids
every town in europe and south america has a team and that team then is representing them as a people so when people disrespect that team it feels very personal. Also certain teams are based on differences in society for example there is a religous difference between fans of teams which means that there is already hostility between them. it is not necasarrily the sport but the sport provides an oppurtunity to represent their area and to settle differences.
it started in england in the 70s when fans started traveling around the country in numbers following their team then it just spread around europe and the rest of the world,cctv and all ticket games and banning orders have all but solved the problem in england
I think soccer/football fans are more passionate than baseball, NFL and College Football fans because in soccer/football people go to their teams matches not only to watch the game but, to also sing and chant and wave flags to support their team
This happens in other sports as well... do research on sport violence and sport psychology. I'm from Puerto Rico and we have violent outbursts in many of the volleyball, baseball and basketball finals. My guess is that this is all about the fans and their (social, racial, political, emotional) issues... not the sport. Sometimes when your life sucks, you find comfort by being part of something bigger. When that something is threaten.. sh*t happens.
There's been one sports riot in the San Francisco Bay Area in my life. By the rowdiest fans in the country after losing the Superbowl. So I don't think football riots are as bad as fútbol riots.
I hear don e amusing story about the British hooligans who were in Sweden watching a match between a team from England and a Turkish team. After the game, there was a brawl. The English hooligans were loosing to the Turks and fled the area around the stadium. And where did they end up? In the Turkish Quarter! What a night for English football hooliganism.
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ruderoar 1 year ago
in england sometimes its usually religion like catholics or protestants or rivalry because of an incident between two teams or two areas but my team southampton they are rivals with portsmouth and that was because of dock workers in the 30's from portsmouth were protesting for better pay and conditions and then southampton said to bring the ships to their dock and portsmouth worker didn't like it and the rivalry caught on into football and there on
OMGYOURSELF13 1 year ago
Rabid soccer fans really need to find another hobby. It's pathetic to be beating and hurting others just because a team won or lost. Get civilized--this is why Americans don't give a crap about it...
4blossoms 1 year ago
And unlike the commercialized US sports, football has always kept its local rivalries, their fans are like gangs that live by the reputation of their team. And like rivalries between gangs, it can get ugly when the tensions are high
Djidjel 1 year ago
@Djidjel Your family well being or individual self worth is a lot more important than some local sports team.
mayena 1 year ago
It's the number 1 sport in 99% of the world, of which 90% is poor and for them Football (soccer) is the one thing they can use to get over their trouble, and be as one behind their team as one big family. As many of the teams are representative for their neighborhoud, city, country etc. They are the local pride, the thing you get identified by. In many countries the strenght of their soccer team is more important than many things in life, they breath it, live it.
Djidjel 1 year ago
I also think that people are confusing passion with irrational fanaticism... Australian Rules Football (a form of football very different to the English game) has very passionate fans (in fact the teams have some of the highest attendance averages in any football code in the world), and most of them are concentrated in various camps within Melbourne. Yet they don't get violent... I personally think this is because soccer is a very frustrating game to watch in comparison with other football codes
sanzar 2 years ago
@sanzar you got the point... football (soccer/calcio.. etc) is a game dominated by deep frustration and by incontroallable euforia... is a game of irrational emotions.. and basicly i think it is because maybe is one of the most difficult games to play... to score a goal requires more team work and skills that maybe any other sport... so when you're team scores a goal gave you a tremendous dose of adrenalin. and by the other hand, is a sport so unpredfictible.. is the king of sports period
sicoticosandro 1 year ago
@sicoticosandro
I agree the emotional pay off for fans is very high, but I personally just find it a painful sport to watch... in most sports the referee is irritating, but in soccer he is often responsible for the result (and this does not reflect which was the better team much of the time). This, combined with the fact that the sport is virtually non-contact, reduces the potential vicarious outlet of the fan and increases the propensity for violent breakouts.
sanzar 1 year ago
@sanzar
yeah.. you are totally right... but i think maybe that's part of it's charm.. that's why the FIFA don't want to allow technology in the referee's desitions.. because they want to mantain the human, and often unjustice, part of the game...
is a discution that will be on top in the upcoming years
sicoticosandro 1 year ago
you have no fucking idea what you're talking about... football is not just a sport. it's a way of life. Doar Petrolul!
heineken1379 2 years ago 2
I personally think that's pretty sad... if a game is your "way of life", then it just proves you live vicariously rather than having the balls to actualise your own achievements. We pity kids who become World of Warcraft fanatics and put their health at risk as a result, and we should similarly pity a soccer fan who thinks that violence is a rational course of action in supporting his multi-million dollar multinational corporation of a soccer team.
sanzar 2 years ago
Every time a US sports team wins a trophey they riot, far worse than anything we have in the UK nowadays.
warriorprince1010 2 years ago
@warriorprince1010... It is getting better in America as well. A lot of teams make it hard for rival fans to purchase tickets and there is a larger Police presence after Championship games now.
It doesn't matter where we live if enough young drunk males get together unimpeded bad things are going to happen.
I've seen it time and time again.
UnclePillz 2 years ago
@warriorprince1010 ye, not like the 80's fucking hell those were bad times xD not all you get is a spotty 15 year old chav shouting abuse at old people, women and kids
donkeyboy2k7 2 years ago
every town in europe and south america has a team and that team then is representing them as a people so when people disrespect that team it feels very personal. Also certain teams are based on differences in society for example there is a religous difference between fans of teams which means that there is already hostility between them. it is not necasarrily the sport but the sport provides an oppurtunity to represent their area and to settle differences.
Tomsavengers 2 years ago 3
it started in england in the 70s when fans started traveling around the country in numbers following their team then it just spread around europe and the rest of the world,cctv and all ticket games and banning orders have all but solved the problem in england
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rcde4ever 3 years ago
the people has nothing to lose?
bullshit! mayby the ultras.but a lot of the hooligans havejobs in high positions! lot of bankers.
giovi182 3 years ago
the most passionate :) footbal fan are in Eastern Europe and South America :)
i mean violence!
popstarr55 3 years ago 6
@popstarr55 and of course england aswell
lizam313 1 year ago
@lizam313
popstarr55 1 year ago
@lizam313
in 80-s.
popstarr55 1 year ago
@popstarr55
erm no now aswell, u dont believe me come down to england on a match day then you'll see
lizam313 1 year ago
I think soccer/football fans are more passionate than baseball, NFL and College Football fans because in soccer/football people go to their teams matches not only to watch the game but, to also sing and chant and wave flags to support their team
skittles2590 3 years ago 8
This happens in other sports as well... do research on sport violence and sport psychology. I'm from Puerto Rico and we have violent outbursts in many of the volleyball, baseball and basketball finals. My guess is that this is all about the fans and their (social, racial, political, emotional) issues... not the sport. Sometimes when your life sucks, you find comfort by being part of something bigger. When that something is threaten.. sh*t happens.
gretdotcom 3 years ago
There's been one sports riot in the San Francisco Bay Area in my life. By the rowdiest fans in the country after losing the Superbowl. So I don't think football riots are as bad as fútbol riots.
FuckingxJerryxLewis 3 years ago
I hear don e amusing story about the British hooligans who were in Sweden watching a match between a team from England and a Turkish team. After the game, there was a brawl. The English hooligans were loosing to the Turks and fled the area around the stadium. And where did they end up? In the Turkish Quarter! What a night for English football hooliganism.
Aficionadorientalis 3 years ago