What happened to age of silence? They were supposed to have a new album in the works last year, but apparently they have been dropped/unacknowledged by End Records, and that retarded label of course have nothing to comment on absolutely anything.. ever... they pull this shit constantly with great bands and great people
@blackfire8421 well first off this idea is kind of ridiculous, one because you get a large mass of people leaving negative comments on that video that means the video gets more views which is more ad revenue. But also Green Day? Seriously?
Really starting to appreciate this band lately - the thing that used to put me of were the vocals -not the fact that they are clean but I simply found the voice somewhat whiney (the same problem I have with SOME songs of arcturus and the main part of newer borknagar. I give music a few chances though and it has grown on me - now I find the vocals perfect; melancholic, soothing and in a way the 'glue' that binds sometimes frantic breaks and atmosphere bends into something more coherent.
I was getting a little bored with music until I came across Ihsahn, Peccatum, Solefald, Arcturus and now this. Okay, I wasn't getting bored, but I am much better off now that I have these bands to add to my collection.
@LittleLaurenPeeps - right, just as long as the classifications either do or do not follow conventional rules, or in this case, an overlapping of both.
@cvg1099 - right, just as long as the agreements on classifications either do or do not follow conventional rules, or in this case, an overlapping of both.
Avante-Garde metal is metal which do not follow conventional rules. Progressive metal is using innovative methods on conventional instrument. They follow rules, but not conventional rules, making this the overlap of progressive and avante-garde metal.
Meshuggah made the custom Ibanez 8-string "public"! When they released their album on which this instrument first occured, it was anything but conventional, though they belong in commonsense to the Progressive genre.
So, again fail at putting bands into genres, either your or my statement is false. ;)
While avante-garde metal is an umbrella term, progressive metal is the genre of using intricate time signatures, complex composition, and the intricate playing of progressive rock (eg Jethro Tull). Technically, the 8-string guitar was a variant of the russian 7-string guitar, back in the 19th century, so it is conventional in Russia. Unconventional is tuning all the strings on your standard guitar to C and play using a steak knife. No Fail for either of us.
@inusarno I do not see what your arguement pertaining to. They are progressive. Weiss was comparing them to Meshuggah, who happen to be in the same genre, who used 8-strings, a somewhat unconventional instrument. Could you please rephrase your question so i may answer with greater accuracy?
@NosferatuOfWorms Yes, without rules; the artistic part of metal, that i call... Part of Jazz and Avant Garde is postmodern music. And it isn't necessary metal.
@MorkaGraven When writing for different genres and different styles there's generally some sort of form that you follow. So in a sense, while music may not have rules, genres generally have them or as I like to call, general guidelines, more than rules.
@NosferatuOfWorms ONLY if you want to perform in a particular genre. Also, this is avant-garde metal. The only genre boundary is the "metal" tones required. The rest can be anything!
wtf why does everybody think triggers make you faster or is cheating wake up morons triggers are just pressure sensors that trigger a drum sound in a speaker everytime you hit the drum. the advantage is thaat the sound is neater. its not cheating get over it.
@JollyBard im apocalypticafan, other account. Why cheating? do triggers make u go faster? they have a similar function to microphones the difference is microphones get saturated and sound isnt neat. using triggers DOES NOT MAKE U GO FASTER. i dont see the cheat
It's honestly a matter of what the band is going for. I'm not against triggers at all, the majority of the time they do what they're supposed to and make the sound a lot more filling than an acoustic mic'd drum because they eliminate background noise. Cattle Decapitation is well known for not using any triggers at all, and in their case, it works; but if you've ever listened to 'Wounds' by The Funeral Pyre, the triggers sound like salami sticks hitting the rims.
@Apocalypticafan1992 it's cheating only because it makes you sound better than you really are, sure george kollias can go uber fast....i can guarantee if you took triggers off it would be incredibly uneven, good drummers have good volume control, ghost notes can turn a simple rock beat and make it thick and juicy sounding! only metal heads want to play at one volume 24/7 and of course it's super loud
@TheRageOfTheWaters i actually do, and i have a wider range than pretty much all people....meshuggah, fellsilent, special defects, sikth, kalmah. uneven structures, RXYZYXR, periphery....but the 2 most important bands to check out are animals as leaders and chimp spanenr
@TheRageOfTheWaters but if you want to see my range then check out my favorited videos.....one minute i'm listening to cannibal corpse than the next it's she and him.....or jamiroquai!
@xxxslayerxxx666 awesome dude! i have quite a wide range of music i listen to myself and i think this is exactly how you should listen music. while most of the comments on videos are people who either love ot or hate it. i think listen to as many genres possible, this gives you much more appreciation of the different types of music.
Hellhammer's triggers are tiresome, the sound of the recording is exactly like Winds, you can have the same musicians playing and it doesn't have to sound the same, that's just plain lack of studio originality, it's like they were using the same presets, plug-ins, equipment and settings for both bands, cool band and good music, not an avant-garde fan but can appreciate it, just that little detail with the recording...
NOOOOOOOO DO NOT TELL ME THAT... NOOO HE DOESN'T I DENY TO BELIEVE IT...
Anyway... what probes do you have?? I have never seen him using them at least on Dimmu, Arcturus, Mayhem... cuz i've seen his feet moving in several videos... soo please tell me...
Of course his feet will move, triggers are not something you use to cheat, it's just a substitute for microphones that you use with a digital brain (effect processor) to assign different sounds to them, for example Samus from Abigail Williams uses the too and a lot of drummers out there and they are not cheating cuz of it, it's just a matter of preference. I don't like them because of the perfect and digital sound you get from them...
well... what I knew about triggers must be wrong, they told me that you step into the triggers of the bass and then it has like 3 or more hammers per pedal... I don't know how to say it in english but.. thats what they told me about triggers... that they are for cheating and a lot of the crap-core bands from now use them...
I got ya' There have been a misunderstanding with what triggers really are since I have use of reason hehehe! You can surely cheat if you want to programming them to do so, but I don't think drummers with a respectable reputation will do something like that. The problem with triggers that some people don't like and others don't mind is purely just about sound.
Precisely. I know a guy that triggers to get a clearer, more rapid attack sound from his bass. It's not about cheating: it's about getting a good sound. Good drummers like to uphold a good reputation. Cheating happens at the baser levels of learning, where some unwise people learn they can drum twice as fast with half the effort, and cheating is born.
@PaganWarDrummer I also don't see it as cheating but I simply dislike the sound - then again, fast double bass without triggers gets so murky its almost essential to trigger the bass kick. But somehow I don't mind triggered drum sounds so much in projects like new arcturus or this - it actually fits the atmosphere and music quite well :)
Why is his voice weird? I didn't think it was weird. My favourite avant-garde band is Unexpect, now those are strange vocals. =] And strange music, actually, but therefore also so beautiful. Never heard of this band before, but I like it, especially the intro.
The group is EPIC WIN! Hellhammer is a part of the holy trinity of drummers for me(George Kollias, Thomas Haake Hellhmmer) The band rocks! If you like this you must try Arcturus.
You can definitely tell this is Avant-garde metal! It is experimental, and its originality shows this. I loved the intro. The heavy drums/guitar contrasted greatly with the classical. I agree with Battossai3000. His voice is weird, but I enjoy it. All and all this was very unique. <3
Age of Silence are basically Winds with Lars (aka Lazare) on vocals. Winds have a more prog / technical shape, Age of Silence are more vocal based and made of pure WIN.
The part after 1:38 is absolutely genius.
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People who like Avant-Garde Metal should check out Mirrorthrone
10ACandSTEVIE 4 months ago
lame
BurnigLegionsBlade 4 months ago
@BurnigLegionsBlade NO, U.
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OctaniaOfficial 4 months ago
3:20 when the piano starts. Liked and faved.
CyanideSovereign 5 months ago
triggers make a crappy set sound exactly how you want to. Not cheating at all
sigerfjord366 6 months ago
wow this is great never heard of it
MarvelousScape 7 months ago
i like the abstracticism of this song. That piano!
CarlAfuPhace 8 months ago
What happened to age of silence? They were supposed to have a new album in the works last year, but apparently they have been dropped/unacknowledged by End Records, and that retarded label of course have nothing to comment on absolutely anything.. ever... they pull this shit constantly with great bands and great people
filthycarni2012 10 months ago
@filthycarni2012 Aren't they doing something in Winds? The majority of AOS is in Winds.
COBfan43 8 months ago
Crap
Aaarrrggghhification 1 year ago
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DontLikeBandsIHate 1 year ago
this is my thinking music of choice
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blackfire8421 1 year ago
@blackfire8421 well first off this idea is kind of ridiculous, one because you get a large mass of people leaving negative comments on that video that means the video gets more views which is more ad revenue. But also Green Day? Seriously?
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blackfire8421 1 year ago
Really starting to appreciate this band lately - the thing that used to put me of were the vocals -not the fact that they are clean but I simply found the voice somewhat whiney (the same problem I have with SOME songs of arcturus and the main part of newer borknagar. I give music a few chances though and it has grown on me - now I find the vocals perfect; melancholic, soothing and in a way the 'glue' that binds sometimes frantic breaks and atmosphere bends into something more coherent.
rachskald 1 year ago
I was getting a little bored with music until I came across Ihsahn, Peccatum, Solefald, Arcturus and now this. Okay, I wasn't getting bored, but I am much better off now that I have these bands to add to my collection.
SillySantaHat 1 year ago
whoa! 4ge of s1Lence! another certified jejemon!
slash17rockz 1 year ago
i love this claustrophobic metal type
95tornado 1 year ago
When i listen this song first that come to my mind is painter Zdzislav Beksinski.I don't know why?
arpegiosamistikus 2 years ago
Office ati-materialist bands-from-several-bands-together green metal.
inusarno 2 years ago
AMAZING! They sound so unique!
wyrm76 2 years ago
Whatever people want to classify this as, it's awesome.
LittleLaurenPeeps 2 years ago 3
@LittleLaurenPeeps - right, just as long as the classifications either do or do not follow conventional rules, or in this case, an overlapping of both.
cvg1099 1 year ago
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@cvg1099 - right, just as long as the agreements on classifications either do or do not follow conventional rules, or in this case, an overlapping of both.
cvg1099 1 year ago
Avante-Garde metal is metal which do not follow conventional rules. Progressive metal is using innovative methods on conventional instrument. They follow rules, but not conventional rules, making this the overlap of progressive and avante-garde metal.
PS, awesome song.
BeatenByCats 2 years ago 4
Progressive on conventional instruments?
Meshuggah made the custom Ibanez 8-string "public"! When they released their album on which this instrument first occured, it was anything but conventional, though they belong in commonsense to the Progressive genre.
So, again fail at putting bands into genres, either your or my statement is false. ;)
Weiss 2 years ago
While avante-garde metal is an umbrella term, progressive metal is the genre of using intricate time signatures, complex composition, and the intricate playing of progressive rock (eg Jethro Tull). Technically, the 8-string guitar was a variant of the russian 7-string guitar, back in the 19th century, so it is conventional in Russia. Unconventional is tuning all the strings on your standard guitar to C and play using a steak knife. No Fail for either of us.
BeatenByCats 2 years ago
If it's just a question of conventional instrument, aren't they pogressive, as they do not follow rules, but use conventional instruments?
inusarno 2 years ago
@inusarno I do not see what your arguement pertaining to. They are progressive. Weiss was comparing them to Meshuggah, who happen to be in the same genre, who used 8-strings, a somewhat unconventional instrument. Could you please rephrase your question so i may answer with greater accuracy?
BeatenByCats 2 years ago
Fucking Awesome song!!!
5/5
blackmetalforever22 2 years ago 3
i have a brand new feeling after listening to this song...
5stringgod 2 years ago 5
never heard something similar, really and excellent band and very original
emilioktalmetal 2 years ago 4
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Darkblood92 2 years ago
Me gusta!
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wtf this is considered metal?
LaMereACaniche 2 years ago
That be the great thing about Avant Garde, no rules. So yes this is metal, just another genre.
NosferatuOfWorms 2 years ago 31
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Well this music clearly has rules. So if that's the thing that decides what's Avant Garde, then this is not Avant Garde.
YeahChonas 2 years ago
dude.
vbaalberith 2 years ago
@NosferatuOfWorms Yes, without rules; the artistic part of metal, that i call... Part of Jazz and Avant Garde is postmodern music. And it isn't necessary metal.
JoaoAntonioCardoso 1 year ago
@NosferatuOfWorms Music in general has no rules other than to use sound. There are no boundaries to music contrary to common belief.
MorkaGraven 7 months ago
@MorkaGraven When writing for different genres and different styles there's generally some sort of form that you follow. So in a sense, while music may not have rules, genres generally have them or as I like to call, general guidelines, more than rules.
NosferatuOfWorms 7 months ago
@NosferatuOfWorms ONLY if you want to perform in a particular genre. Also, this is avant-garde metal. The only genre boundary is the "metal" tones required. The rest can be anything!
MorkaGraven 7 months ago
yeh its called progressive metal
INightI 2 years ago
progressive avant-garde metal, actually
eleshar83 2 years ago
Office Metal. Enjoy your sleeveless denim jackets and back patches, while the entire world laughs at you.
Onuund 2 years ago
office progressive avant-garde smoochie metal, fuck yeah
LaMereACaniche 2 years ago
wtf why does everybody think triggers make you faster or is cheating wake up morons triggers are just pressure sensors that trigger a drum sound in a speaker everytime you hit the drum. the advantage is thaat the sound is neater. its not cheating get over it.
Apocalypticafan1992 2 years ago 39
@Apocalypticafan1992 The volume of the bass drum with triggers is always the same. It's kind of cheating, but I don't mind.
JollyBard 1 year ago
@JollyBard im apocalypticafan, other account. Why cheating? do triggers make u go faster? they have a similar function to microphones the difference is microphones get saturated and sound isnt neat. using triggers DOES NOT MAKE U GO FASTER. i dont see the cheat
xxmanuelvaldesxx 1 year ago
@xxmanuelvaldesxx I doesn't make you go faster but you don't have to be precise in the volume as it's always the same.
JollyBard 1 year ago
@JollyBard i see ur point. but still taking that into account u got to admit achieving that sound/speed with or without triggers aint easy
xxmanuelvaldesxx 1 year ago
@Apocalypticafan1992
It's honestly a matter of what the band is going for. I'm not against triggers at all, the majority of the time they do what they're supposed to and make the sound a lot more filling than an acoustic mic'd drum because they eliminate background noise. Cattle Decapitation is well known for not using any triggers at all, and in their case, it works; but if you've ever listened to 'Wounds' by The Funeral Pyre, the triggers sound like salami sticks hitting the rims.
TheNatureOfBetrayal 1 year ago
@Apocalypticafan1992 it's cheating only because it makes you sound better than you really are, sure george kollias can go uber fast....i can guarantee if you took triggers off it would be incredibly uneven, good drummers have good volume control, ghost notes can turn a simple rock beat and make it thick and juicy sounding! only metal heads want to play at one volume 24/7 and of course it's super loud
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@xxxslayerxxx666
you should listen to more metal bands
not every metal band is about hard and fast.
TheRageOfTheWaters 1 year ago
@TheRageOfTheWaters i actually do, and i have a wider range than pretty much all people....meshuggah, fellsilent, special defects, sikth, kalmah. uneven structures, RXYZYXR, periphery....but the 2 most important bands to check out are animals as leaders and chimp spanenr
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@TheRageOfTheWaters but if you want to see my range then check out my favorited videos.....one minute i'm listening to cannibal corpse than the next it's she and him.....or jamiroquai!
xxxslayerxxx666 1 year ago
@xxxslayerxxx666 awesome dude! i have quite a wide range of music i listen to myself and i think this is exactly how you should listen music. while most of the comments on videos are people who either love ot or hate it. i think listen to as many genres possible, this gives you much more appreciation of the different types of music.
grimoverlord10 11 months ago
Wow, cool!
TheOkkvlt 2 years ago
la zorra humanos culiaoz!!
chupen el terrible pewo xhuxhaz de zu topo!!
: D
tomaperrox 2 years ago
3:38 - 6:39... ?
necrometal987 2 years ago
_4ge of S1l3nce_
metalhasmyballs2 2 years ago
Hellhammer's triggers are tiresome, the sound of the recording is exactly like Winds, you can have the same musicians playing and it doesn't have to sound the same, that's just plain lack of studio originality, it's like they were using the same presets, plug-ins, equipment and settings for both bands, cool band and good music, not an avant-garde fan but can appreciate it, just that little detail with the recording...
SullenUmbra 2 years ago
whats wrong with you.. hellhammer doesn't use triggers... wake up and smell the doublebass!!
alahad 2 years ago
Urmm! sorry to break it out to you, but yeah, he does...
SullenUmbra 2 years ago
NOOOOOOOO DO NOT TELL ME THAT... NOOO HE DOESN'T I DENY TO BELIEVE IT...
Anyway... what probes do you have?? I have never seen him using them at least on Dimmu, Arcturus, Mayhem... cuz i've seen his feet moving in several videos... soo please tell me...
alahad 2 years ago
Of course his feet will move, triggers are not something you use to cheat, it's just a substitute for microphones that you use with a digital brain (effect processor) to assign different sounds to them, for example Samus from Abigail Williams uses the too and a lot of drummers out there and they are not cheating cuz of it, it's just a matter of preference. I don't like them because of the perfect and digital sound you get from them...
SullenUmbra 2 years ago 3
well... what I knew about triggers must be wrong, they told me that you step into the triggers of the bass and then it has like 3 or more hammers per pedal... I don't know how to say it in english but.. thats what they told me about triggers... that they are for cheating and a lot of the crap-core bands from now use them...
alahad 2 years ago
I got ya' There have been a misunderstanding with what triggers really are since I have use of reason hehehe! You can surely cheat if you want to programming them to do so, but I don't think drummers with a respectable reputation will do something like that. The problem with triggers that some people don't like and others don't mind is purely just about sound.
SullenUmbra 2 years ago
Precisely. I know a guy that triggers to get a clearer, more rapid attack sound from his bass. It's not about cheating: it's about getting a good sound. Good drummers like to uphold a good reputation. Cheating happens at the baser levels of learning, where some unwise people learn they can drum twice as fast with half the effort, and cheating is born.
PaganWarDrummer 1 year ago
@PaganWarDrummer I also don't see it as cheating but I simply dislike the sound - then again, fast double bass without triggers gets so murky its almost essential to trigger the bass kick. But somehow I don't mind triggered drum sounds so much in projects like new arcturus or this - it actually fits the atmosphere and music quite well :)
rachskald 1 year ago
wicked fucking band name
ProfPudding 2 years ago 2
Found this group looking for bad ass fucking metal without the played out screaming and growling. This shit is bad ass.
NismoTyler 2 years ago 4
amazing album ! great music ! check out the projects of the band members, u would never regret...
Nattleite 2 years ago 2
Why is his voice weird? I didn't think it was weird. My favourite avant-garde band is Unexpect, now those are strange vocals. =] And strange music, actually, but therefore also so beautiful. Never heard of this band before, but I like it, especially the intro.
ReturnToDust13 2 years ago 2
Unexpect!! :D
Have you heard of Sleepytime Gorilla Museum? Their musics are awesome, but you have to give 'em some time to enter in your brain.
TRennisT 2 years ago
dunno why Lazare doesn't do more he recently did some vocals in Winds but he needs a band of his own. Maybe even Arcturus
Ascellius 2 years ago
so u don't know solefald ? what a shame
Nattleite 2 years ago
the vocals remind me a lot of into eternity =D
Motogoro 2 years ago 2
Very strange start, but so good. Keyboards are great in this band.
AK4769er 2 years ago
The group is EPIC WIN! Hellhammer is a part of the holy trinity of drummers for me(George Kollias, Thomas Haake Hellhmmer) The band rocks! If you like this you must try Arcturus.
kenbubub 2 years ago 3
You can definitely tell this is Avant-garde metal! It is experimental, and its originality shows this. I loved the intro. The heavy drums/guitar contrasted greatly with the classical. I agree with Battossai3000. His voice is weird, but I enjoy it. All and all this was very unique. <3
blackrosesandthorns 2 years ago 2
Fucking Awesome
illidanocturno 2 years ago 2
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dont like the singers voice...kinda weird...but of all the avant garde bands ive heard...this one is the best
Battossai3000 2 years ago
Age of Silence are basically Winds with Lars (aka Lazare) on vocals. Winds have a more prog / technical shape, Age of Silence are more vocal based and made of pure WIN.
Matteo11z 3 years ago
what do you mean with "win"?
Gargamelle 3 years ago
It's a way to describe how beautiful and unique a thing is... in this case, Lars' vocals really match the description :).
Matteo11z 3 years ago
its lazare from solefald/borknagar singing
hellhammer on drums
and a bunch of people from winds i beleive...
its pretty much made of pure win
xalastor 3 years ago
This was pretty interesting.. =/ good but.. different..
Tanja186 3 years ago
a beautiful sounding avant garde band.
aidenmnuroff 3 years ago 2
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Do anyone know where I can Download this song?
Feliks91 3 years ago
itunes
nostalgiaplatz 3 years ago
Yeah, it´s Hellhammer alright :-)
When i first heard that Band, i had to think of Solefald and Arcturus, immediatly^^
It´s so damn good!
RadicalDreamer32 3 years ago
fully agree on that.
amazing sound.
uloveme2nv 3 years ago
lol u can tell who the drummer is straight off :-P good ol' hellhammer!
LUMBERTHON 3 years ago
Hey, is this Solefald?
They sound exactly like them.
Great Song! :-)
RadicalDreamer32 3 years ago
no, check solefald's myspace then search for age of silence on the page. it explains all!
LUMBERTHON 3 years ago
awesome stuff!
unknownspaceadorer94 3 years ago
Acceleration, an excellent album!
bloodyrooots 3 years ago
superb. They have a new fan.
PaulMcMullen 3 years ago 3
cool
SKULLTAGFAN666 3 years ago