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  • Regaurdless of what your religious beliefs are, this kid is on the money!

  • You lost when you started to make videos. Give it up.

  • I like how there is Bible ads on your video.... not!

  • This just in:

    Fred Phelps of the Westboro Batshit Church has asked that I dedicate my video "Daddy Was a Bigot" to the mega-hypocrite preacher with a meth and hooker habit, Mr. Teddy Haggard! Perhaps I should write a second chapter and call it "Teddy Was a Hypocrite".

    There, I made a funny AND promoted my song. If you hate baptists and their bigotry, please leave a derogatory comment about them on my video "Daddy Was A Bigot". If you ARE a baptist, leave a derogatory comment about ME!

  • Zinna, when you come here to the Springs and see his establishment in person for what it is then you can speak legit words, till then you don't sound any better than the judgemental fundie yelling to random people "Your going to hell"

  • Well as knowing Ted persanally. I would just like to tell you how ingnorent you sound!! Im sure all of you people have never done anything wrong! So you have thr right to judge this man. NOO!!! Only God can judge. So if you want to make theese stuipid coments on what you have heard on the media, dont make them public so everybody has to read and hear your stuipid BS!!! Go talk to this man and see how wrong you are. Go to this mans church and see how wrong you are. Oh and ByTheWay, nice bunkbed.

  • Good god, I love you.

  • I realize that i am commenting years after this was posted but i just watched and am compelled to say: Very well said! Much respect.

  • quiet gay guy!

  • I feel so fucking sorry for that prostitute. I don't care how much the man payed me, I would never let Ted Haggard's creepy motherfucking face anywhere near my genitalia.

    But I'm sorry Zinnia, your video is a lovely message about tolerance and here I am still hating on the guy. But as nice as your message is, I don't think Ted is ever going to do something that decent in reality.

  • The Bible clearly calls it an abomination. Those of is who call ourselves "Christian" simply seek to adhere to the Biblical view. If you don't agree, fine, don't gomto church....but that doesn't make us pedlers of "hate", just becuase you don't believe as we do. Secondly, who are you to dictate who another person get counseled by ? Once you tell us (Christians) what we should or should not believe, then aren't you guilty of what you accuse us of ?

  • @bigkendallas There aren't atheist camps to cure the 'disease' of christianity

    But there are christian camps to cure the 'disease' of homosexuality

    There aren't atheists on the street shouting out that everyone is an idiot

    But there are christians on almost every city corner yelling that we are fools, destined to burn.

    There aren't atheists telling those with AIDS that the use of condoms will spread the disease further.

    But the pope himself did.

    Yeah, you're peddlers of hat and intolerance.

  • Haggart was only doing it for experimental purposes. He wanted to see what a methed out homosexual was actually feeling so he could council them.

  • He was a hypocrite, which is ok,

    but he was a loser, because he disagrees with you? He isn't gay now.

  • There's no hate like God's hate. I love it when one of the flock comes crashing down from on high. Filthy pious hypocrites.

  • A pastor that "spreads the word of god" and says all this stuff is bad yet he does everything he was taught to hate. Not a big surprised.....fucking hypocrites...

  • Though I agree with many of your points, surely you are smart enough to know that this passive aggressive style if Atheism almost never works

  • @bigredphenom Worked with me and many other atheists who aren't scared of being proven wrong. It's pretty much irrelevant how you approach a hopelessly convinced believer and if they're too insecure, scared and ignorant to look past what method was used to disprove their beliefs, that's their problem. There is no style of atheism. It's just a counter position for a certain claim.

  • Good point.

  • You know who you are similar to? Ted Haggard. Thats right.

    Here's the similarity.

    Ted Haggard is intolerant of others. You are intolerant of your own gender.

  • @standardissuemale877 when did he ever say he is intolerant to men?

  • @standardissuemale877 how can a gay guy be intolerant of men?

  • @standardissuemale877 false accusation.

  • I'm more Christian than not and agree 100% with what was said in this vid. Even if I wasn't a Christian or Agnostic or whatever, I would still agree because it really is propaganda BS from the churches which bring families to become so brainwashed that they would disown their own child and be a reason for so many to hide and to live in fear. It's horrific. Many of the comments attacking ZJ for such superficial qualities are horrific in their own way. Shallow humanity.

  • damn!!! you are one ugly motherfucker!!!

  • @lordnarbas

    So? that's not the point of the video.

    And you're a rude idiot.

  • @honorship That doesn't change the fact that this guy is but ugly, just stating facts here, also he's a fucking hater, I'm just letting him taste his own medicine...

  • @lordnarbas

    A 'fact'?

    Define ugly, it's subjective the same way 'good' and 'evil' is.

    Some people may think he's ugly and some may not, it's subjective and definitely not a fact.

  • @honorship There is a certain standard that every one goes by when we judge what is beautiful and what is ugly. A guy who looks like a 50 year old over weight out fucked crack whore is NOT beautiful. People who see "beauty" in that are lying to themselves, they may have sick fantasies about such putrescence, but normal people would think that this heap of disgust is disgusting...

  • @lordnarbas

    'everyone'?

    Again, this video has nothing to do about him being ugly or anything like that, by saying he is ugly with no reason makes you look like an idiot.

    Keep your thoughts for yourself, because probably no one cares.

  • @honorship I don't give a damn what this ultra-atheist faggot has to say, I'm just stating the obvious, that guy is so fucking ugly that he makes me sick. I almost feel sorry for him, he's both butt ugly and he's a hater and an atheist poser. You don't get any more pathetic that that.

    On the other hand, if you read through the comments, you would see that most of them are are about this guy's physical appearance...

  • @lordnarbas

    'Stating the obvious'?

    Is it obvious that he's ugly?

    Well that's your opinion mate, in my opinion this guy looks just fine and to be honest I can't care less about his look.

    If you don't enjoy watching this guy and his look really bothers you, just stop watching his videos, why would you even say that he is ugly?

    What's the point?

  • @honorship hahaha The truth that this guy is fucking disgusting is really bothering you isn't it? go live in your fantasy that this guy is your knight in the shining armor you freak...

  • @lordnarbas

    Well just because my opinion is different than yours doesn't mean you have to rage.

    How old are you? 5?

    Stop trolling this his videos and go live in your fantasy chrisfag world.

  • @honorship AHAHAHAHA So I am a christfag now right? If a guy doesn't agree with a butt ugly atheist nutjob and doesn't not share the same ideology as that freak then he must be religious. hahaha you fucking retard, the world isn't black and white you moron, fanatical religious people and obnoxious atheists (like this faggot) are both idiots...

  • @lordnarbas Are u like 12? Or just extremely immature?

  • @curtman81 nahh, I just think this guy is fucking butt ugly and he should think about his looks rather then being an internet smart ass. How about you? Do you have like sympathy for this guy because of his physical appearance or do you think he is hot, you sick bastard?

  • @lordnarbas Just as I thought...You ARE just an immature asshole. No surprise there I guess....

  • And now that piece of shit is opening a new church. Fuck Ted Haggard!

  • @Demugokun Most atheists are Bible literate, and most "deeply religious" folks are not.

    Go figure!

    For the same reason the Bible Belt is home to the WORST domestic stability. They have the highest divorce rate, teen pregnancies, child abuse, incest, even highest abortion rates!

    The best statistics come from Massachusetts, the State where gay marriage has been legal for 6 years.

    Hypocrites have a lousy track record. The proof is in the numbers! Bible beaters SUCK at setting good examples!

  • Therefore Haggard was Gay.

    Why are you bragging about this??

    Just like all the teen molesting Catholic Priests who are all Gay Men.

    This just shows that Being Gay does not keep you from being a rat bag asshole.

  • There's a reason why you and Richard Dawkins are not in the same league. I like your beliefs. And I agree about equality.but you're just hating. Grow up.

  • This is one ugly dude.

  • fuck you douche nobody cares dress like a man and grow some nut hair leave the stories to cnn

  • After watching a good number of your videos, I've realized you hate on people. Like a lot. I understand finding whats wrong with people, but how happy can you be, if your life is wrapped around insulting people. Your "followers" seem to basically be people that like the way you rash on people for the way they think. If you want equality for homosexuals, how about lobbying for equality instead of hating on the opposite side, for hating on you. An eye for an eye Ms. Jones.

  • dude....why do you wear makeup like a girl?

  • @spareaxe I'll answer that 'spare axe'. That's because she looks even better in make up. In fact Rosie Jones looks stunning in makeup. And she wants to look like a girl and it's her choice. And she feels better that way. And we have no business to criticize her choice. And we have no right to "condemn' her or the way she was created by mother nature. And by the way she is the most cutest person on youtube. And she has 10,000 fans and they are found in every country, every continent. <3& peace

  • Ted Faggard ?

    THATS WHAT THEY CALL POETIC JUSTICE !

    I think J Edgar Hoover was the same kind of person

  • This is insanity. The church is in the righteousness business and you can't be right if you don't make other people wrong. They tried making people not masturbate but found out that young men who don't masturbate can beat the crap out of you. So in searching for something else to make wrong they kept trying different tactics. Eventually concluding that only small non violent segments of society are wrong. Which is why gays aren't allowed in military. 4 or 5 army guys could slaughter a church

  • Why can't he be bisexual? Or something else.

  • mm ok i wanted to listen to a song from a band called haggard and i got to this hearing some moron saying about some priest idk what. why are u a partner with utube?

  • "Megachurch"? Wow that sounds uber! :P Do they have a Superpope or something?

  • Cue Cards..? c'mon

  • you act surprised that alot of people hate gay people, get used to it going to be that way for awhile

  • @TheAshton299 No, nobody should get used to unwarranted hate. It's the bigots who need to get used to the fact that homosexuality is never going away. Gay people deserve rights as much as anyone else, and if you don't like it, go cry to mommy.

  • @blobvision

    You're right that homophobes should get used to the fact that gays are here to stay, but we should get used to the fact people are going to hate us too. It doesn't mean we should accept or tolerate it. Just that we should expect it. They're going away like racists have in the past, but just like racists, they will never be completely gone. Only marginalised &, as a result, angrier. We should still stand up for what's right but we can't make it easier without 1st getting used to them

  • @blobvision my moms dead bitch

  • @TheAshton299 I wasn't saying that directly to you, especially if you didn't say that because you personally hate gay people. What I was saying was that people who think they can belittle gay people can go whine about it, but that's all they're going to get out of it. I was speaking in general terms--not trying to insult you. Do you think gay people deserve basic rights? Then if yes, that comment was not meant for you, but for those who read what I said and disagreed. I apologize.

  • @blobvision that wasn't meant directly towards zinnia jones i was just stating that gay people are hated because there gay and that its going to be hard to change

  • You know what I find attractive... A young man like this,.. that speaks and talks as he does... With intelligence.. I had to share/post this on my Facebook Page..

  • JESUS RULES

  • Hey will you do a review for the film Jesus Camp? I know you won't like the movie but I just want to hear what you have to say about it! :-)

  • It's not his fault. He accidentally tripped and fell on a couple hundred cocks.

  • Every religious person is gay or bent, broken on the inside. These are the weakest of our species.Religion mutilates genitals, conducts blood cult activities, rape, misogyny,start wars and fuels racism. All religion is bad for humans. Religion is inhuman

  • From an ENTP to an INTP: I wish there were more people like us in the world... -_-

  • Well, nice video but most of your facts are incorrect. Yes, Ted did support marriage between a man and a woman but he also supported the initiative for civil unions so that everyone would have legal benefits. All your information seems to be derived from the general media, which, as we know, is mostly inaccurate. Once you get the correct facts down, you'll be a great journalist.

  • Christianity is making me very angry. My head is literally pounding trying to tolerate the church.

  • @TiteProducts not all christians are catholic you know...

  • @MrMeineNamen By church I meant all organized Christian faiths.

  • Very well spoken - thank you. Just more evidence that religion poisons everything.

  • A couple years ago I went to a church and Ted Haggard came with his wife and did this public apology thing and explained himself a bit.

  • Well said. A little naive though. He's "sorry" because he got cought, that's all. Many debunked idiots have said "sorry" before and then went back to their old wrong ways.

  • The Bible: Love thy neighbor. (but homosexual should be put to death)

    Kill a HUMAN BEING just because he's gay? What happened TO YOU SHALL NOT KILL. We can see that we break the ten commandments--when IT IS CONVENIENT!

    JUST A THOUGHT from A FREETHINKER.

  • @flightkiller09 Yeah I always wondered about that too.

  • Well said ZJ!!!!

  • ..... fag

  • Mike Jones!

  • BUT I THINK TED HAGGARD IS CUTE, SERIOUSLY, I'D ASSFUCK HIM, BAREBACK TOO! WILL I BURN IN HELL IF I LUST OVER TED???

  • Okay, the reason of why theres Boys and Girls; to produce more, with out a man or girl, you can't do that. so you really shouldn't be "gay" or homosexually because its pointless. sure, you love that person, but still, whats there to get from it? thats good, not made fun of or humiliated. Theres really no point of being that. really. and why are you dressing like a girl, no reason to do that, its like your trying to hide that your gay, but your not.

  • @SimaddictScott The world would be better off if humans reproduced less.

  • @RDeathbringer  Well, with Gays? They WILL produce less. It takes an indivudual with an outtie and one with an innie in order to procreate. Which is really what marriage is about anyway... but then, no one ever uses common sense in any of this.

  • @bussinsmiths thank you for both reinforcing the comment you replied to in what appeared to be a failed attempt to argue against it and acting as an example to back up your own claim about no one using common sense.

  • @haircut74 .. No. Thank YOU for the laugh.

  • @bussinsmiths i'm glad you can laugh at yourself. some people are simply unable to do so.

  • @haircut74 Thanks again! Were you spinning in circles on a Merry-go-Round with your tongue sticking out at me when you made that comment?

  • @bussinsmiths now that's just nonsense. i don't know where you got that from, and i don't see how you might expect to be taken seriously while babbling on about such things.

  • @RDeathbringer YES !!! Anyone that has made the conscious choice to never have children , should get a HUGE tax break. Look at the resources that will be saved from not having children. Less pollution. More space in the classroom. More job availability.

  • @SimaddictScott according to your logic the only time 2 people should have sex is to procreate, ever had sex for fun or to express love for another person? you are sad indeed you breeding machine.

  • @justpaul62 No, I just find it kind of silly that one would think that a hole make for "shitting" would in any way be used for some romantic expression of "love". I understand the loving people of the same sex. I just find that when you look at the way we are made as humans, it makes sense that one part is made to go into another part and to try and shove something into another something that wasn't really designed to have something shoved into it, well... it doesn't take a brain surgeon.

  • @SimaddictScott Chocolate is pointless too. But we eat it for fun. Money is pointless too, we don't need it, it actually makes our lives worse. We do use it though for reasons you probably can't comprehend. Hair, yes, hair is pointless too. We don't need it any more! So why do we have hair? Also there is homosexuality in other mammals besides humans too (watch some national geographic or whatever). And how's someone hiding that he is gay by dressing as a girl? Do you know a thing called "sense"?

  • Jesus who is God, and Everlasting Father, and Eternel Holy Spirit, is my God and there is none other besides Him. Jesus is my Peace (Ephesians 2:14)

    Jesus is the Bread of Life (John 6:35) Jesus my Fortress (Psalm 18:2)

    Jesus is my Everlasting Father (Isaiah 9:6) Jesus is my Healer (Malachi 4:2)

    He is my Counselor (Psalm 16:7) the Author of my Faith and Rewarder (Hebrews 11:6) my Hiding Place (Psalm 32:7) my Shield (Psalm 33:20) my Sustainer (Psalm 55:22) my Sovereign Lord (2 Samuel 7:28)

  • @gedeonchampion

    Point?

  • haggard is "sorry" because he got caught. that's all.

  • haha fucking cock sucking loser

  • Ted Haggard did commit a sin when he went and committed adultery and immorality. There is forgiveness for Ted Haggard in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour. When Jesus saves a man who receives Him as Lord and Saviour of his eternal soul, confesses his sins and respents of them, and put his faith in the sacrifial death of Jesus upon the Cross, this man is SAVED and FORGIVEN. This man still needs washing and cleansing of his MIND and SOUL and if he sins he just has to repent ask forgiveness.

  • I know God my Creator, I have a relationship with Him, He speaks to me and I hear Him, God has adopted me as his child and I now have a loving and personal relationship with Him. The God who reveals Himself in the Bible is real. He spoke and prophesied and did great signs and wonders and miracles. And finally He came on earth Himself. Jesus is Him, the true God, Stop denying Him. Stop rebelling because it will do you no good. God loves you but if you refuse to repent you shall be lost. Repent!

  • forgiving is good. but would you forgive someone who's hypocrisy, which caused a lot of pple deep pain and ruined lives, was only revealed coz someone else stepped up and brought it into light? I believe in forgiving, but only when it doesn't make someone as selfish as Haggard even more self-assured.

    In an interview CNN he said that he believes that everybody is allowed mistakes and he is not the only person who made one. He already forgave himself before you and I had a chance to do so

  • @Shaghayegh11 What can he do to redeem himself?

  • thumbs up to you for this video! 

  • I say "Amen" to what Pastor John MacArthur is saying to this young man in this video. Homosexuality is a sin and those people practicing this sin need to know that they have to repent towards God and come to Jesus to confess and ask forgiveness for this sin. Jesus shed his blood on the cross so that they might be set free from this sin of homosexuality and be washed, purified, sanctified, forgiven and be made new. There is power in the blood of Jesus to set people free from sin,to deliver people

  • @gedeonchampion

    there is apparently no power in your blood to make you use ur fridging brain.

  • @gedeonchampion And I say to you that the mighty Odin will smite your remains when your are gone, for you didn't acknowledge the mighty nordic bearded one, also Allah will have a go at you because you left him out, and don't forget Shiva and Hanuman and their posse, because you neglected them, and don't forget Yaweh and Pan and Horus and Thor and Mithra and Mama Wata and Kali and ...you know ill stop because otherwise i'll be listing the names of gods for a long long time.

  • Ted Haggard is a frigging idiot.

    @ZJemptv: I must admit I like your channel although I am straight.

    Good on you for using your brain and being an atheist.

    And to my surprize I thought you look good (ok) in drag.

    The voice shocked me...

    At least you have an unusual take on things and (not

    to put you down) I think I will find your videos very entertaining

    as well as informative of where your mind is at.

    I have a few gay women friends and I have grown more tolerant and

    accepting due to that.

  • @CerebralLockdownLG Unless he is.

  • gaaaaay, gods fake youre all fake all gods, science FTFW

  • LEGALIZE CRYSTAL METH

  • @CerebralLockdownLG Well him for one. But their are many ppl in prisons and other places who are just flexible with their preferences and may want to try something new, as you would with indian or chinese food. Theres a big difference between such ppl and those who are actually born with an inherent and exclusive attraction to the opposite sex. Frankly it would be more embarassing 4 the gay community than the Christian community if this douche turned out to be gay

  • I know you don't believe in karma or Wicca but I see this as karma in action. ;) He does indeed deserve everything he is getting.

  • Ted Hagard is not gay. There are ppl who can be exclusively attracted to women and still willing to try something new every now and then. Saying he is gay is more offensive to the gay community than it is to him or his religeous community.

  • You should do a follow-up on this, because now he is back with a new church, up to the same old antics

  • Look at this buffoon. you represent athiests quite well.

  • @dafunker00 Look at you monkey, you represent the hateful religious people quite well.

  • @Judicial78 Im not religious, I just cant stand this slimy cunt in front of the camera spreading ignorance.

  • @dafunker00 What do you feel he said is ignorant?

  • all u do is read

  • @Ramster321 I wonder who wrote what he is reading.... Well, really I don't but you must. I suspect that you aren't very bright.

  • @Cayvmann oh ya i really wanna watch a fag reading off a monitor. i dont really but it seems like u do

  • @Ramster321 I like hearing other people with interesting opinions, which are fact based. You, on the other hand, are an idiot, so regardless of whether or not you are a fag, I won't be listening to you.

  • @Cayvmann i am the fag? i obviously have more balls than u. i was stating a fact which u saw as an insult. ur tryin to defend ur pathetic gender confused hero. ull never be listening to mean i will never be listening to u. these comments are typed characters which u read dumbshit. u r obviously a homosexual bigot

  • Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker and now Ted Haggard, me thinks they did pontificate too much

  • You cant struggle with sexuality

  • Wasn't Ted Haggard that idiot who got pwned by Richard Dawkins?

  • Fucking teleprompters, how do they work?

  • Ted Haggard is a closet and preaching to lots of people who were brainwashed into giving up their money to make him and the government rich get real America don't fall for scams like this !!

  • @kmostudios Ted Haggard is a psychologically damaged idiot who thinks that his faith replaces psychological stability.

  • @Botany101 I totally agree but also the people who look to guys like this for guidance and moral support get me thinking "Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him"......

  • Yep Ted Hagard is a loser,a hipicrit and a hater!!!

  • I dont think he's actually gay. Sexuality can be more fluid, or more 'flexible' than ppl think. Males who go to prison can become attracted to other males. The labels we have to refer to same-sex activity can be very misleading. Id say Haggard is more hetero-flexible than gay and u probably shouldnt operate under the assumption hes 'one of you'(Thats not meant to sound offensive)

  • who? ohhhh, mike jones.

  • Well done - your videos are great.

  • Aaaaah! Worst hair ever. 

  • Does anyone else notice that in Ted's mind when he gets caught it's a "struggle" but when someone else expresses their homosexuality it's a "choice", personally i find him to be a bigoted hate mongering christian lune, i really don't have a problem with the drug abuse prostitution or homosexuality, in fact i think that is more preferable than being a hypocrite spouting hate and bigotry.

  • Another sinner pointing the finger at someone else.

  • "Your church doesn't like gay people" ...... so they hate you? :D

  • Well said!

  • I loved this. LOVED IT!

  • NICE HAIR xD

  • Gay or straight, people deserve respect for the very fact that they are human. One of my best friends is gay. Although I am a follower of Christ, and do not agree with his lifestyle, I refuse to kick him to the curb as so many others have done. He will always be my friend. If I were to judge him then I must judge myself as well. If I say that his lifestyle is sin then I must ask, what sin is there in my own life? I do not believe it's for me to condemn others. Only God has authority to condemn.

  • i always use to put money in his collection box for fear he might deflower my buttoks you see i suffer with piles,the churches are hypocritical

  • ted haggard is planning to restart a church using the same soft-brady bunch-american flim-flam trick to lure new followers in his harem of hell. ted haggard-billy graham-rush limbaugh-jerry falwell-ann coulter-sean hanity-charles stanley conservative right charlatans need to be exposed beyong the facade they project. Be Blessed, Peace & Shalom,

  • great speech!

  • Just think about this, Have you ever seen two same sex animals (same specie) try to make love or live together as human couple? Human is the most intelligent specie on Earth. We are above the animal kingdom, but why we have to chose to live way down below the animal. If animals do not choose to live like that, why we have to live like that.

    By the way, any foul comments to me is oked because Jesus Christ did told me already. You guys may hate me but the truth is the truth: God always love you.

  • @enigman77: Why on earth would you think that same sex coupling is "below the animal"? It's not zoophilia.

  • @enigman77 in fact, homosexual behaviour is well-documented in many species of animal. that's just a fact. You're welcome.

  • hahhaa.... Ted Hargard is a fallen person like Samson. Whatever he has done, he has to answer to God. It is very sad when Satan has won this battle but not for long. Being homosexual is just the life style. God can heal you (all gays, lesbians and transsexuals). Just kneel down, confess your sins, and receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Remember, gay is a life style not " born to be gay or think to be gay".

  • hahhaa.... Ted Hargard is a fallen person like Samson. Whatever he has done, he has to answer to God. It is very sad when Satan has won this battle but not for long. Being homosexual is just the life style. God can heal you (all gays, lesbians and transsexuals). Just kneel down, confess your sins, and receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Remember, gay is a life style not " born to be gay or think to be gay".

  • great video! haggard is a pussy.

  • Oh weird, I just saw a video of him having a debate with Terrence McKenna. It was a good debate, for McKenna anyways.

  • I do kinda feel bad for it, 'cause he was brainwashed into it in the first place. But only a little. I feel bad for the young child and early adolescent who was made to feel guilty, dirty, and evil. I don't feel so bad for the adult who went on to preach those very same things.

  • Fuck Ted Haggard and his fake apologies. Fuck his lying insistance on saying he's "a heterosexual with issues", fuck him for preaching again, for the sole reason that he doesn't have any other trade besides peddling the invisible product of christianity. Fuck him, he can get hit by a bus for all I care.

  • Religion = money.

    That's as far as it goes.

  • He's a piece of shit, plain and simple. He and his wife are all about MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. Damn, when are you PEOPLE are going to realize that these BASTARDS are out to TAKE YOUR MONEY, and don't give a shit about you. When they do give money away for charity, it's for TAX NON-PROFIT purposes ONLY. Put them both up, he and his wife, against a wall, and SHOOT THEM BOTH.

  • I think the church is horrible for turning their back on a guy when they routinely preach forgiveness and understanding. Clearly they don't believe in the ideals that the bible teaches about forgiving people for their sins.

    I am an atheist but I do believe in forgiving people for things they have done wrong.

  • It's like an old Philosophy I heard, " If you don't have the Morale to Practice watch you Preach, then at least have the Decency to Preach what you Practice. ", Ya know?

    Nice to meet you.

  • @ohgrx

    Taste of his own medicine .. he preached all that garbage.

  • @ohgrx For me, it depends on the wrong and if the person is truly sorry. The church has every right to be upset and doubt his sincerity after he deceived them. I think it's a good thing when creationist question their religious leaders, as opposed to the child molesting popes that run rampant molesting little kids left and right.

  • @ohgrx

    "I am an atheist but I do believe in forgiving people for things they have done wrong."

    would this include hitler? what about someone that had molested and murdered your children?

  • @flashoftruth no that wouldn't include hitler or someone who molested and murdered any children... but we are not on a video about hitler or child molesters ... ted haggard was simply a gay man who preached against it... that i can forgive....

  • @ohgrx

    reread what you wrote.

    "people" is a general term, and was not specific to ted. ted haggard is far more than just a hypocritcal bible thumper. he is mentally disturbed and his views and hate speech are deplorable. IF he were to follow the advice of ZJ in this vid, he might actually be worthy of "forgiveness". IF he truly were concerned with those he hurt in the process of his hypocrisy he could & would be most definitely able to rectify the situation. but he shows no true remorse.

  • @flashoftruth believe me I'm not defending this man. I dont know if that is what you are getting at, but all I am saying is that the guy is human, and fully capable of making horrible mistakes.

  • @ohgrx

    then my question to you is, where do you draw the line? to me there are certain acts, certain circumstances, and certain people that do not deserve "forgiveness". to me there is a certain level of accountability that offenders must meet in order to be worthy of forgiveness. people in the public eye, ESPECIALLY people who make a living off of others, religious 'leaders', and those like ted whose lives/careers are based on judging others, but care only about themselves, deserve NOTHING.

  • ZJemptv,

    Spot on. Kudos!

    It be it!

  • mega church.... that makes me feel uncomfortable...

  • Damn Right. I agree 100%