i'd love 2 see RZA sock westwood in his fukin face! wu-tang bum rush that shitty radio1 studio an rock that shit. fuck westwood, fuck london, WU TANG 4 LIFE SON!
yeah, there are two sides to the story..but i think that rza sums it up.....he is a badass producer. I actually think 8 diagrams is a good album...maybe in a few years time other people will appreciate it a lot more.
He's in the hip-hop game, if he was in the rock game, he would talk different, come on man, you really want some guy with long hair going, radical man, narlie! to some rap song? Pfft, as long as he doesnt go O.T.T i dont care, listen to the interview-ee, and not only the interview-er.
REAL TALK! RZA has been my favorite rapper from since GRAVEDIGGAZ to Bobby DIGITALpart2, Ah man the days i use to grab a ice cold 40 and a spliff with my boombox to listen to the GOD kick knowledge. In the hood i was admired for my unusual preference of Rza as by favorite hip-hop artist
I understand RZA's point. he's a dude that's trying to grow as an artist and these dude's wanna do the same thing all the time. I see it. But i also get Rae's point as well.
How can you not like this nigga? He needs to do more movies. This cat has a swagger about him that is cool. I can see blowing some tree's with rza and just talking about rap. This nigga seem real.
im a big fan of rza and raekwon but i can see what raekwon was asking for, to keep it grimey and hard like the 36 chambers and forever, instead rza produced iron flag and the other new relaeases which were all rubbish pussy sounding and sale flops, Every post i see online is fans wanting that rough sound back, thats what made wu tang thats what wu tang are, wu tang sold out, i hate to say that because im a huge fan of there old material. I think rza should have taken raekwons direction on this
yeah i probably spoke too soon, if he plays good music i'm down. i just don't like the way he led this interview. seemed like he was just trying to make rza talk shit about rae.
Nah I aint feelin Rza on this. Wu Tang may be world wide but their from the streets and the streets was what 36 Chambers and Forever was all about. I aint be feelin much from 'Bobby Digital' at all.
Rza's heavy. I always admired how he presented himself, very intelligent and inspirational guy. He knows what he's talking about and can articulate it. Loved Wu Tang since '93/94, I'm thirty this year, do the math
RZA is on point here. His rhymes and beats are the positive things on 8 diagrams and it's a shame Raekwon is too close-minded to let RZA do what he wants artistically. Raekwon can rap what he wants about. Rza can make the music he wants. RZA really said it saying how they aren't making an album just for TODAY. Raekwon obviously has made stabs at going mainstream. He is just the average rapper. Anybody who has met him knows he can be a real drama queen jerk.
I think catz gotta embrace the album better. When the Wu came out, no one else sounded like them until after they got known. Now that they inspired thousands of acts, you gotta switch up your style; even update it. Anyone who is a real Wu fan will rock it.
I would've preferred the album came w/ more songs like 'Heaterz' or 'Put Your Hammer Down' or even the St Ides Commercial where there is more group participation.
rza is right. wu tang has become a universal group. rae has never made any effort to appeal to anyone outside new york (or the u.s.a). his slang & the content etc. if rae wants his mafioso style and hood muzik, then he can do that solo...
but with the wu-tang clan, he should understand that the universal (different) appeal has to occur.
wise man talking. gotta agree ugod stood out on this one compared to other wu albums. 8 diagrams is an aquired taste. you need to get high and listen to it a couple time before it kicks in.
its all a matter of opinion. fact of the matter is 8 diagrams is masterful, lots if you dont understand what lies beneath. when you take a deeper look you will become enlightened.
People call it mediocre, people call it terrible or overrated...but what's wrong with using instruments? The lyrical content is not on top but the production is top notch. This Wu album isn't for everyone who bought Enter the 36 Chambers or Wu-Tang Forever, this is for a new generation of hip-hop/Wu-Tang fans...like RZA says in this video, all these kids are just getting this shit years after Wu-Tang dropped...it's definitely for a world appeal.
man im the biggest wu fan in the world. i have chilled with the gza, had breakfast with the kid, chilled with masta killa, trife, killah preist, basically no homo, i love the dudes. but im going to be honest. 8 diagrams is not good. method man and raekwon are the only ones who come on time. some of the other members lines like deck and masta are laughable. track 1,4,6,12,13 are the only decent tracks. all the others are sub wu. if your a wu fan your lying to yourself if you feel it
Maybe he should have listened to Rae cause the album is whack! aheh nah all this childish argueing is stupid. I respect RZA he got self control. That's something a lot of other rappers can learn about.
Great fucking album! those who don't like and critisize don't understand it, open your ears and minds, this album like the RZA said is nutricious. why would people want another "36 chambers", don't get me wrong i love 36 chambers, but the Wu-tang clan would be boring if every one of their albums sounded the same. 50 cent makes the same album over and over, real artists grow and progress. bong bong
indexxonara motherfucker do you really think you could diss the one and only fucking reakwon??...
do you think that the rza says something because they argue?... Nikker you think he has money problems? What the fuck is going on in your fucking head son. The Wu iz wit me. What the fuck man
I honestly love him yo, he the Abbot, the wisdom he be dropin is too ill, knahmsayin? 50 cent woundn't drop that much wisdom, wouldn't bring out that much wit & wouldn't make people feel that good towards hip-hop/music/other people during his whole fuckin career. RZA did that during 7,5 minutes, word...
yeah, I wasn't super keen on 8 Diagrams at first, but it definitely is a good cd. and U-God does step it up a lot. him and Meth are the only ones that really really brought it. Ghost did too, but he's on what like 3 tracks? RZA kept the beats minimal and experimental, so it's overall a good cd.
RZA iz da Master.He dat dude, he da Abbot of da Clan so everything is everything like Cappa told everybody already.Raekwon has alwayz been a outspoken part of da Clan,but at DA END OF DA DAY RZA makin da moves dats good fa da Clan.Dem brothers will never beef like dat,so haterz hate and to da mommies, BONG!
I just came back from the wu tang show in LA at the HOB and RZA wasnt there. It was loud but I'm pretty sure I heard correctly when Method was talking mad shit, same thing with rae. GZA was sitting out most of the show but I dont think RZA is with Wu anymore, can anyone shed some more light on this? this is some bullshit if its true...
rza tryed to be to epic on new album should of gone old skool, i'm all for progression but too much shitty guitar on record - undpredicatable is quality - nothing beats 36chambers RIP ODB
RZA is the bigger man, nuff respect to him, there's always two sides to the story but Raekwon doesn't need to be airing out dirty wu-laundry in public, he's acting like a bitch on her period... i haven't heard that 8 Diagrams yet but based on RZA's passion, i'm sure i won't be disapointed
The new Wu album is sick...Rza is a fuckin genius..When hes in control of production the other members shine.When hes not and they venture off with other producers they sound week.Wu is all about that edgy experimental shit.Thats what made them who they are.All haters fall back!!!
the albums should reflect the emotion of Wu, thats what made them great. i just think they lost the motivation as a group. the individuals have it, its different for rza though. they just need to agree, thats all.
but regardless of the style of production, none of the beats make me go "holy shit", its still the best shit out lately though.
8 diagrams is the best wu album since wu tang forever..much respect to the rza for wanting to experiment, try different things, isn't this what made us love the Wu in the first place?..they made challenging hip hop music at a time when the scene was scattered, just like it is now..rae, i love you, man but don't overact, dude..8 diagrams will be embraced by all the true wu and hip hip fans
I've been a die hard Wu fan for nearly 15 years and I think Rae is overreacting honestly. The beats on 8 Diagrams are thoro, and it's not really all that drasticly different compared to a lot of their other shit. I think Rae's mad because he hasn't been able to touch the success he had w/ Cuban Linx, everything he's done since that joint has tanked.
god bless rza, hes moving forward as an individual and no body in hiphop in my opinion has done a better job with what they had, rza gods design is perfect, peace to the whole of the clan but rza dont get jumbled if you read this.
god bless, iv followed your career as a fan and stay centred in yourself bro, reality test thats all
I got luv and respect for Rae but how you gonna say you'll put an album out with RZA!!!! WHAT!!! I'll be honest, the album he put out that was on point the most was Cuban linx and the rest...ah, you know whats up, I'll just say it wasnt no good follow up from Cuban linx. RZA and others created the wu sound and RZA was incharge of that. RZA is a genius and produced the best albums out of hiphop history but now theres no love.
i often made the exper.that many albs wasnt THE SHIT when i heard it for the 1.time.but with evry time it bec.better&became a f*g classic!its the same with 8D&it was the same with,for example,supr.client.of course therere other class. that i heard 1time&it was like magic(t2000,ob4cl,)but the good thing on albums of that kind is,those that doesnt hit your brain by the 1.time is they just became better&better&...with evry time you hear it.for me 8D is magic!
RZA is the creator of wu-tang. Ghostface is the only one who chooses producers who sound like Rza.,.but his albums sound the same. "8 Diagrams" is a new sound...just like "36 chambers" was new. WU TANG with out Rza is the worst idea ever. it cant be done.
Rza is a god producer. He created Wu tang. Without Rza Wu would not even exsist. Raekwon must have forgot that his only great album "ONLY BUILT.." was produced by Rza. "TICAL" "LIQUID SWORDS" "RETURN OF THE 36 CHAMBERS" "IRON MAN" "FOREVER" AND "36 CHAMBERS" are the albums that created the dynasty. ALL THOS ALBUMS ARE PRODUCED BY RZA. "8 Diagrams" is a album people will not get at first but will be remebered as a classic. It is truly a great album. Give respect.
rza got the best sounds...its good he wanted to switch up..most people want to hear the same shit over and over..would you guys like to have the same cellphone for life?you gotta upgrade bitch
Im sorry no disrespect but ... This album will never match The 36th Chambers !!! Old Hip Hop , if you wanna call it that way, was pure and real ... Todays Hip Hop is different. For people who grew up in the early 90s when Wu was shining like a MO FO !!! We dont feel what u feel !!!Listen to the 36 Chambers and Only Built for Cuban Linx one after the other, trust me ... we might listen to old hip hop but 8 Diagrams doesnt not match these 2 classic albums !! Nuff said !
I agree. It's commendable to have a wide world view, but that still doesn't mean that the new Beatles remake song, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps," is good. I found it weak, and, no, not because it takes a mellow rock vibe to it, but the Wu-Tang MCs sounded uncomfortable with that style, and the production and delivery from all around didn't sound inspired.
But, still, having said that, I do respect artists who do try new, different things even if they fail. But RZA's sound on the Beatles remake doesn't sound as revolutionary as his previous steps forward. And it almost sounds like he went for a straight remake without adding his own style to it.
Thanks man, I'm a music fan... a big music fan... and I love all kinds of music, all kinds of artists -- passion or feeling are things that you just can't fake. I'm a long-time rap fan, first started listening back around 1982, and, on this CD, Wu-Tang ultimately disappoints.
bring da ruckus is still there just bring that album up from the dust. But he dont wanna make another one just like it
swedishbutcher 3 years ago
rza is one of the best producerss!!!
skillz2161 3 years ago
I feel where he's comin from about growing into a man, But i reall miss that bring the ruckus style from rza.
suzuki400boi 3 years ago
he evolved man, offcourse the old shit was good but still its what he said
Sjoerd2212 3 years ago
yea raekwon dusnt make try to make any appeal to fans outside of statin island i still think hes brilliant
darrenjohnfrew 3 years ago
the rza is ridiculous wid the beats
truespur 3 years ago
inspectah deack da best out ov wu
wrekitall 3 years ago
"We did Cuban Linx 2 already, its done" LOL THATS A FUCKING LIE
dzarecta 3 years ago
rza and the gza are the most intelligent men in rap tbh there so deep its unbelieveable
darrenjohnfrew 3 years ago 2
fuck raekwon he cant rhyme anymore so fuck him
kmerf 3 years ago
listen to his verse on put down your guns, thats a new track he pretty good on it, but yea i agree wit u still i dotn like him anymore
dzarecta 3 years ago
shit, rza is brilliant.
edihedihedih 3 years ago 4
haha "i dont make a record for a quick bite and then its over na man this is nutritious right here" hip hop wouldnt be the same without RZA
thebluegays 3 years ago 3
RZA always makes sense.
KrfNYC 3 years ago 4
56 seconds in, and i must stop watching it, tim westwood makes me feel sick in my stomach . .
flatlinerking 3 years ago
i had to watch it . . rza is for true the second best motivational speaker after mr.T
flatlinerking 3 years ago 2
i'd love 2 see RZA sock westwood in his fukin face! wu-tang bum rush that shitty radio1 studio an rock that shit. fuck westwood, fuck london, WU TANG 4 LIFE SON!
safedred 3 years ago
rza is the shit but that new shit wit david banner was wac
DEZUZD 3 years ago
Real Muthaphucka
Rap cant die, Cause Wu-tang is forever.
PKRFEEN08 3 years ago 3
i'm a master producer homie...
Rahtings67 3 years ago 4
What kind of friendship should be presented as good because you don't you deal with issues. What a wack fool.
CiscoNast 3 years ago
RZA is a boss
Gocavs1990 3 years ago
all good Rza
conormc1972 3 years ago
the man
HUGE respect for how rza played that interview.
held his ground, without disrespecting the other party.
Like, 1% of people on earth are capable of that, and its the highest virtue.
maxtr0n 3 years ago 3
rza is a very strict boy..but he is one of the best producers
VirousBSCrew 3 years ago 3
there is black people in england you know?
lucylushass 3 years ago 2
east london here
DINOtheTide 3 years ago
yeah, there are two sides to the story..but i think that rza sums it up.....he is a badass producer. I actually think 8 diagrams is a good album...maybe in a few years time other people will appreciate it a lot more.
mohsdef 3 years ago 2
he produced some of the kill bill soundtrack. versatile or what
DINOtheTide 3 years ago
this is a tough one I feel both point of views...
talktome560 3 years ago
na westwood is sik bruv shat up
WestSideRecognise 3 years ago 2
raekwon you dukakakakakakakkaka hahahahhahahha buhhhahahaaaa
kingkarnov 3 years ago
lmao BOOM
doodybutter666 3 years ago
An intelligent, intellectual , brother. . . .
good post!
massusm25 3 years ago 3
Rza = legend.
Westwoodd = twat! grow up mate, stop talking like a 15 year old kid!
utubaz89 3 years ago 4
You wren't here four days ago dawwg! you gotta love it westwood is so hood, hahahahaha
hstarsky83 3 years ago
TOP PRODUCER!
Mbryan87 3 years ago 2
He's in the hip-hop game, if he was in the rock game, he would talk different, come on man, you really want some guy with long hair going, radical man, narlie! to some rap song? Pfft, as long as he doesnt go O.T.T i dont care, listen to the interview-ee, and not only the interview-er.
conr16 3 years ago
you understandin me tim... lmfao..
butler2035 3 years ago 2
this is real talk
yoitsgiook 3 years ago 2
REAL TALK! RZA has been my favorite rapper from since GRAVEDIGGAZ to Bobby DIGITALpart2, Ah man the days i use to grab a ice cold 40 and a spliff with my boombox to listen to the GOD kick knowledge. In the hood i was admired for my unusual preference of Rza as by favorite hip-hop artist
jupiterluck 3 years ago 3
I understand RZA's point. he's a dude that's trying to grow as an artist and these dude's wanna do the same thing all the time. I see it. But i also get Rae's point as well.
yoitsgiook 3 years ago
yo were radio one and one 1 xtra
snoopys14 3 years ago
Rza is the truth
lupendjedi 3 years ago
How can you not like this nigga? He needs to do more movies. This cat has a swagger about him that is cool. I can see blowing some tree's with rza and just talking about rap. This nigga seem real.
HALFDEAD66 3 years ago
i have met RZA and rapped with him on stage he is an open minded relaxed guy trust...
outrageousmusic 3 years ago
im a big fan of rza and raekwon but i can see what raekwon was asking for, to keep it grimey and hard like the 36 chambers and forever, instead rza produced iron flag and the other new relaeases which were all rubbish pussy sounding and sale flops, Every post i see online is fans wanting that rough sound back, thats what made wu tang thats what wu tang are, wu tang sold out, i hate to say that because im a huge fan of there old material. I think rza should have taken raekwons direction on this
Glendale1835 3 years ago 3
dukadukadukadukadukaduka boom!!
lol.
yugang08 3 years ago 2
diss isn't an interviewrza is preaching da truth and knowledge
itkirkeyboy 3 years ago
"i'm a master producer homie....ya know what i'm saying...." i love that part....rza is the best!
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CubOfJudahsLion 3 years ago
TIM WESTWOOD!!!
RZA is wise. Raekwon needs to open his mind maybe. Wu Tang are definately the greatest MCs of all time.
keithslum 3 years ago 3
Now that the album came out and flopped, Is it safe 2 say RZA is Buggin!!
rametep100 3 years ago
He isn't bugging, he just way ahead of people...
The album flopped because there was no promotion...
...BET, MTV, and radio don't play WU-Tang. Any album with NO promotion will flop. The radio and music stations are bugging!!
LonerXL 3 years ago 5
Dudes Raised The Level Of Awareness Of Hip-Hop In This Country
he got people places
he just needs to not talk
MAZEY22 3 years ago
yeah i probably spoke too soon, if he plays good music i'm down. i just don't like the way he led this interview. seemed like he was just trying to make rza talk shit about rae.
akdaze 3 years ago
wu is for life
killahandkillah 3 years ago
master of equality....knowledge,wisdom,understanding
kingkevin8976 3 years ago
Nah I aint feelin Rza on this. Wu Tang may be world wide but their from the streets and the streets was what 36 Chambers and Forever was all about. I aint be feelin much from 'Bobby Digital' at all.
slakker8000 3 years ago
Rza is the coolest dude ever!!!
bashthebandello 3 years ago
lol
nafsullawwama 3 years ago
Is it just me, but does Rza look like Marvin Gaye, just slightly?
HierophantAries 3 years ago
hes on another level... so dam cool lol
stylzalike 3 years ago
Rza's heavy. I always admired how he presented himself, very intelligent and inspirational guy. He knows what he's talking about and can articulate it. Loved Wu Tang since '93/94, I'm thirty this year, do the math
Hacim24 3 years ago
When did wisdom become not "cool"?
BassLineRythem 3 years ago 4
"..only me and Tim can see, but we are understanding each other, right? Are we understanding each other Tim?"
LonerXL 3 years ago
Knowledge is Power. RZA makes wisdom cool
do1337 3 years ago
rza one inteligant guy just listen to him talk demoand respecy
ITS BOBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYY
and westwood sounded liking a idoit
Lucifer986 3 years ago
RZA is on point here. His rhymes and beats are the positive things on 8 diagrams and it's a shame Raekwon is too close-minded to let RZA do what he wants artistically. Raekwon can rap what he wants about. Rza can make the music he wants. RZA really said it saying how they aren't making an album just for TODAY. Raekwon obviously has made stabs at going mainstream. He is just the average rapper. Anybody who has met him knows he can be a real drama queen jerk.
thetrollofdeath 3 years ago
Raekwon an average rapper? Shut up you clueless tool.
slakker8000 3 years ago
There isn't a average rapper in wu. The weakest member of wu would be the strongest member of any other. they come through with the 9 diagrams.
sirsquiggly 3 years ago 3
Yo kno wa I mean ?! :))
Shmenman 3 years ago
lol..but its more like "nah mean?!?"
nafsullawwama 3 years ago
i agree with Kenc85,followed wu since 91 and dont like all the rows-in-camp talk
wu tang forever!
obiwansi 3 years ago
"HAVE SELF-CONTROL... PATIENCE!!"
LonerXL 3 years ago 2
RZA is a true MC/PRODUCER/HIP HOP GOD
lafuzion 3 years ago 7
I think catz gotta embrace the album better. When the Wu came out, no one else sounded like them until after they got known. Now that they inspired thousands of acts, you gotta switch up your style; even update it. Anyone who is a real Wu fan will rock it.
fbebeats 3 years ago 5
Rza is the man!
NWOpartycrasher 3 years ago 4
I would've preferred the album came w/ more songs like 'Heaterz' or 'Put Your Hammer Down' or even the St Ides Commercial where there is more group participation.
kamesan 3 years ago
8 diagrams is not that bad meth raekwon and u-god shine on it
moeed 3 years ago
i personelly felt that some songs were filled wit generic gun talk and what not that didnt fit the vision of the album.
maverick2215 4 years ago
Whats with the arrogance? I just hope the love is still there in the Wu camp man, hip hop can't afford to lose such an influential group right now.
kenc85 4 years ago
RZA is right but he's arrogant.
jbran3 4 years ago
RZA is a Master
freegg888 4 years ago
rza is right. wu tang has become a universal group. rae has never made any effort to appeal to anyone outside new york (or the u.s.a). his slang & the content etc. if rae wants his mafioso style and hood muzik, then he can do that solo...
but with the wu-tang clan, he should understand that the universal (different) appeal has to occur.
surgeon8024 4 years ago 3
What exactly is appealing about it? Wu Tang made their name from raw street rap. That is what people know them ass and what they love.
If their gonna change their soiund.... ok sure, but if its shit its shit. All this stuff about it taking a while to 'get used too' is crap.
Got mad respect for Rza's past production skills but aint feelin it at all lately.
slakker8000 3 years ago
don't you feel obligated to give rza the benefit if the doubt here? i mean its not like he just started sucking out of nowhere his shit is still good
akdaze 3 years ago
new cd is sick-fuk wat ya all think
shb00 4 years ago
wise man talking. gotta agree ugod stood out on this one compared to other wu albums. 8 diagrams is an aquired taste. you need to get high and listen to it a couple time before it kicks in.
fakieflips 4 years ago
its all a matter of opinion. fact of the matter is 8 diagrams is masterful, lots if you dont understand what lies beneath. when you take a deeper look you will become enlightened.
knowsthatknowledge 4 years ago 3
People call it mediocre, people call it terrible or overrated...but what's wrong with using instruments? The lyrical content is not on top but the production is top notch. This Wu album isn't for everyone who bought Enter the 36 Chambers or Wu-Tang Forever, this is for a new generation of hip-hop/Wu-Tang fans...like RZA says in this video, all these kids are just getting this shit years after Wu-Tang dropped...it's definitely for a world appeal.
jbran3 4 years ago
wikid
GrandMasterRooster 4 years ago
8 diagrams was a best mediocre
theSwordOfEquis 4 years ago
you chilled with a dick in your mouth
ssmacarthur 4 years ago
man im the biggest wu fan in the world. i have chilled with the gza, had breakfast with the kid, chilled with masta killa, trife, killah preist, basically no homo, i love the dudes. but im going to be honest. 8 diagrams is not good. method man and raekwon are the only ones who come on time. some of the other members lines like deck and masta are laughable. track 1,4,6,12,13 are the only decent tracks. all the others are sub wu. if your a wu fan your lying to yourself if you feel it
itachiyates 4 years ago
It's hard to see The RZA as dishonest
natedig23 4 years ago
ya know what i mean.
Domudeus 4 years ago
son
winonaaah 4 years ago
From the hill to the harbor.
4lph4num3r1sm 4 years ago
rza's a straight g. theres a reason why hes the front man and not Kwon
rzagza819 4 years ago
Maybe he should have listened to Rae cause the album is whack! aheh nah all this childish argueing is stupid. I respect RZA he got self control. That's something a lot of other rappers can learn about.
royalsteven 4 years ago
wu-tang stopped doing good beats or that style known by all
meanwhile wu-fam continues making what your father wu-tang-clan stopped doing
i think that
up to now I'm trying to understand because dom pachino stopped doing those music with those only beats of war
now it is different, I know that some thing is different
peace and sorry for my english
maeldomingues 4 years ago
Great fucking album! those who don't like and critisize don't understand it, open your ears and minds, this album like the RZA said is nutricious. why would people want another "36 chambers", don't get me wrong i love 36 chambers, but the Wu-tang clan would be boring if every one of their albums sounded the same. 50 cent makes the same album over and over, real artists grow and progress. bong bong
alainrsb 4 years ago
love ya rza
love ya raekwon
fuck 8 diagrams
fuck cell phones
kapetaniosjohn 4 years ago
strait G
shortysmagic 4 years ago 2
indexxonara motherfucker do you really think you could diss the one and only fucking reakwon??...
do you think that the rza says something because they argue?... Nikker you think he has money problems? What the fuck is going on in your fucking head son. The Wu iz wit me. What the fuck man
breakwall 4 years ago
He's right - "8 Diagrams" is "nutritious right here." Would that Rae & the Crew knew what was good for them...
"I'm a master producer, homie."
Word.
thewufs 4 years ago
The GZA once said
"Quit running up on niggas with all that wack shit!"
It's time the Wu took heed to their own advice.
jahkinglove 4 years ago 2
like 4 me 8 diagrams isnt good album, maybe the reason is then RZA is producer of them.
teiien 4 years ago
rza is the best producer in the world.i don't believe in raekwon when he says "he don't pay me" fuck raekwon with your fuckin money problems!
Indexsonnora 4 years ago
"I work hard 'n pay all my billlzzz, back to the mu zak"
Well, RZA says he doesn't owe anyone any money. Hope this mix up gets straightened out.
XtraTrstrL 4 years ago
what song is going on in the background at first
musashi33 4 years ago
The new record is dope. Dare I say it but it sounds like the Wu is maturing.
stuartzoo 4 years ago
im sooooo hyped for cuban linx 2
theblastocyst 4 years ago
I honestly love him yo, he the Abbot, the wisdom he be dropin is too ill, knahmsayin? 50 cent woundn't drop that much wisdom, wouldn't bring out that much wit & wouldn't make people feel that good towards hip-hop/music/other people during his whole fuckin career. RZA did that during 7,5 minutes, word...
ted363636 4 years ago
yeah, I wasn't super keen on 8 Diagrams at first, but it definitely is a good cd. and U-God does step it up a lot. him and Meth are the only ones that really really brought it. Ghost did too, but he's on what like 3 tracks? RZA kept the beats minimal and experimental, so it's overall a good cd.
chaaoos 4 years ago
U-god is crazy on this album, shines on every verse
dollardollarbill1 4 years ago
New album is a grower. Its better than any other hip-hop out right now
mrphilharrington 4 years ago
yeh but who else brought real hip hop from start to the UK masses every friday man, thats why artists respect westwood
subsypher 4 years ago
i'll beat the shit out of this subzero nigga god
ASDFROST 4 years ago
RZA iz da Master.He dat dude, he da Abbot of da Clan so everything is everything like Cappa told everybody already.Raekwon has alwayz been a outspoken part of da Clan,but at DA END OF DA DAY RZA makin da moves dats good fa da Clan.Dem brothers will never beef like dat,so haterz hate and to da mommies, BONG!
earlgee 4 years ago
RZA's dropping some shit right here....the kiddies need to listen.....for real.....fuck soulja boy....lol....
hiphoplegend1 4 years ago
what song is that beat from at 1:10 ? Please tell me that is tooo ill
tomatotrex 4 years ago
this nicca said Wu-Tang is 'nutritious'! lmao
RZA is my muthafucca!
williest1 4 years ago
fuk u westood u fake motherfkin son of a baptist middle class motherfker stirin shit up ...fkin silly white boy...i cant believe hes takin the bait
dkingman 4 years ago 2
I just came back from the wu tang show in LA at the HOB and RZA wasnt there. It was loud but I'm pretty sure I heard correctly when Method was talking mad shit, same thing with rae. GZA was sitting out most of the show but I dont think RZA is with Wu anymore, can anyone shed some more light on this? this is some bullshit if its true...
TheFakeMarkGonzales 4 years ago
rza tryed to be to epic on new album should of gone old skool, i'm all for progression but too much shitty guitar on record - undpredicatable is quality - nothing beats 36chambers RIP ODB
zzzglenn 4 years ago
I thought Wu Tang were all for one, one for all.
If your crew don't like the beats, you change the fucking beats.
CoyoteJaw1 4 years ago
RZA is the bigger man, nuff respect to him, there's always two sides to the story but Raekwon doesn't need to be airing out dirty wu-laundry in public, he's acting like a bitch on her period... i haven't heard that 8 Diagrams yet but based on RZA's passion, i'm sure i won't be disapointed
MackTheKnife12 4 years ago
The new Wu album is sick...Rza is a fuckin genius..When hes in control of production the other members shine.When hes not and they venture off with other producers they sound week.Wu is all about that edgy experimental shit.Thats what made them who they are.All haters fall back!!!
nived3rd 4 years ago
the bitch in this situation is perspective.
they just have different points of view.
it sounds to me like rae just needs to vent
the albums should reflect the emotion of Wu, thats what made them great. i just think they lost the motivation as a group. the individuals have it, its different for rza though. they just need to agree, thats all.
but regardless of the style of production, none of the beats make me go "holy shit", its still the best shit out lately though.
Cleanuponaisle76 4 years ago
this guy talkin nuffin but sense, i have so much respect for the wu, nobody touches these bredrins. wu forever.
BENHORAN06 4 years ago
rza rza rza gza gza ol ol dirty niggaz family..fuck the fake gangstas!this is the real gangbang family
Indexsonnora 4 years ago
8 diagrams is the best wu album since wu tang forever..much respect to the rza for wanting to experiment, try different things, isn't this what made us love the Wu in the first place?..they made challenging hip hop music at a time when the scene was scattered, just like it is now..rae, i love you, man but don't overact, dude..8 diagrams will be embraced by all the true wu and hip hip fans
razorraymarv 4 years ago
wu tang
idiotwind75 4 years ago
exactly. they've done the raw shit before. RZA's smart for wanting to move on and evolve the sound.
chaaoos 4 years ago
peace to the god, well said lord!
kborn 4 years ago
I've been a die hard Wu fan for nearly 15 years and I think Rae is overreacting honestly. The beats on 8 Diagrams are thoro, and it's not really all that drasticly different compared to a lot of their other shit. I think Rae's mad because he hasn't been able to touch the success he had w/ Cuban Linx, everything he's done since that joint has tanked.
hobopowerlazer 4 years ago
rzaa good actor aswell!!!..in deraileddd n americanG
jailerdee 4 years ago
god bless rza, hes moving forward as an individual and no body in hiphop in my opinion has done a better job with what they had, rza gods design is perfect, peace to the whole of the clan but rza dont get jumbled if you read this.
god bless, iv followed your career as a fan and stay centred in yourself bro, reality test thats all
mrribbon1 4 years ago
I got luv and respect for Rae but how you gonna say you'll put an album out with RZA!!!! WHAT!!! I'll be honest, the album he put out that was on point the most was Cuban linx and the rest...ah, you know whats up, I'll just say it wasnt no good follow up from Cuban linx. RZA and others created the wu sound and RZA was incharge of that. RZA is a genius and produced the best albums out of hiphop history but now theres no love.
Jaykin 4 years ago
Anybody else think RZA sound like Bubbles from The Wire!!! lol
Joke Ting still
RZA ur a badman still...Drop another Birth of a Prince star.
qu4rtz 4 years ago
rza your a great ginius
hennie53 4 years ago
mastermind.....straight up
mastermind.....
pistolpeeroy 4 years ago
rza is the world greatest mind
peticco 4 years ago
RIZZA IS THA BIGGA JIGGA!! You gotta respect that!! No doubt
uglefisken 4 years ago
i often made the exper.that many albs wasnt THE SHIT when i heard it for the 1.time.but with evry time it bec.better&became a f*g classic!its the same with 8D&it was the same with,for example,supr.client.of course therere other class. that i heard 1time&it was like magic(t2000,ob4cl,)but the good thing on albums of that kind is,those that doesnt hit your brain by the 1.time is they just became better&better&...with evry time you hear it.for me 8D is magic!
WU-TANG4EVER PEACE from Berlin
1199erLeGaT 4 years ago
RZA is the creator of wu-tang. Ghostface is the only one who chooses producers who sound like Rza.,.but his albums sound the same. "8 Diagrams" is a new sound...just like "36 chambers" was new. WU TANG with out Rza is the worst idea ever. it cant be done.
STUNTMANSKI 4 years ago
Rza is a god producer. He created Wu tang. Without Rza Wu would not even exsist. Raekwon must have forgot that his only great album "ONLY BUILT.." was produced by Rza. "TICAL" "LIQUID SWORDS" "RETURN OF THE 36 CHAMBERS" "IRON MAN" "FOREVER" AND "36 CHAMBERS" are the albums that created the dynasty. ALL THOS ALBUMS ARE PRODUCED BY RZA. "8 Diagrams" is a album people will not get at first but will be remebered as a classic. It is truly a great album. Give respect.
STUNTMANSKI 4 years ago
wu tang 4 eva ,, hahahaaaaaaaaaa
sweettechnique 4 years ago 2
money!!!!!
creedencelearwater 4 years ago
rza got the best sounds...its good he wanted to switch up..most people want to hear the same shit over and over..would you guys like to have the same cellphone for life?you gotta upgrade bitch
deadlyx 4 years ago
Definately. At the end of the day, Wu is still whats hitting
ParadigmShift302 4 years ago 2
does anyone notice how rza's all of a sudden got an accent?
jus04 4 years ago
rza's voice anit changed.
Nice interview the new album should be dope i prefer the 36th chambers wu tang though
addictbeatz1 4 years ago
the new album isn't that bad...
but it sure isn't what everyone hoped it'd be.
it's too chill
&
gots too many R&B boys singing on it
&
it needs more GZA
the new album just isn't RAW
that's what Wu-Tang Clan fans want...RAW!!!
Method Man steals the album though
ohmaurrfish 4 years ago
i respect that his music is evolving, but damn rza you're selling out. You gotta have the WU sound.
cozydee 4 years ago
I don't think that RZA's selling out, the sound ain't has raw, but it's the Wu and it's still RZA...
MSDen 4 years ago 4
the new album have a diferent sound ,but that''s evolution,rae wanna stuck in the old formula,not smart...
meth021 4 years ago
8 Diagrams is great
I think the people who don't like it only listen to old Hip-Hop :(
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TsphereMONK 4 years ago
Im sorry no disrespect but ... This album will never match The 36th Chambers !!! Old Hip Hop , if you wanna call it that way, was pure and real ... Todays Hip Hop is different. For people who grew up in the early 90s when Wu was shining like a MO FO !!! We dont feel what u feel !!!Listen to the 36 Chambers and Only Built for Cuban Linx one after the other, trust me ... we might listen to old hip hop but 8 Diagrams doesnt not match these 2 classic albums !! Nuff said !
scarface76ers 4 years ago
I've heard the new album and I Agree w/ Raekwon and Ghostface,it's crap!
I mean the beats are slow and boring.
I like 4 songs out of 16 tracks on that album:
Windmill,Elephant Runs,16th Chamber and Stick Me For My Riches. THE NEW GHOSTFACE IS HARD!!!
qwesence1 4 years ago
rza is too cocky for his skill level. bump the past, this dude is annoying me rite now and is killing the Wu
oroadreamwind 4 years ago
rza is dirty
thebert23 4 years ago
rza's the man, but i kinda wish he wasnt quite so cocky about his production talent, but its all good
glaxglax 4 years ago
I agree. It's commendable to have a wide world view, but that still doesn't mean that the new Beatles remake song, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps," is good. I found it weak, and, no, not because it takes a mellow rock vibe to it, but the Wu-Tang MCs sounded uncomfortable with that style, and the production and delivery from all around didn't sound inspired.
mykalroze 4 years ago
But, still, having said that, I do respect artists who do try new, different things even if they fail. But RZA's sound on the Beatles remake doesn't sound as revolutionary as his previous steps forward. And it almost sounds like he went for a straight remake without adding his own style to it.
mykalroze 4 years ago
yo mykalroze, you have a good ear homie. you can hear it in rae's voice when he drops the first verse. he was just not feelin it
MiraiNoMikey 4 years ago
Thanks man, I'm a music fan... a big music fan... and I love all kinds of music, all kinds of artists -- passion or feeling are things that you just can't fake. I'm a long-time rap fan, first started listening back around 1982, and, on this CD, Wu-Tang ultimately disappoints.
mykalroze 4 years ago
how long my joint is .. lmao. rza is so fkin great
badaboum223 4 years ago
How are you about to say hip-hop is not for everybody? Tell it how it is, RZA.
owldroplet 4 years ago
bring killa sin back
FrostedLane 4 years ago