Good video, thanks for putting this up... Yes, it is a bad example when teachers "teach" you by doing all these stationary techniques... Okay, fine, a few times so you know where to grab, but then take it semi-real, have them feel what it is like, like you said, to be placed into a real choke-hold. Great video, good luck with more.
Great vids! You have very valid info I dont see this a lot! Good job! PS if the best you can come up with to undermine some one is bad spelling, then you IQ is low good spelling or not ;) You ever try spelling words in a street fight? cause that is the topic lol If you want to spell go to a spelling channnel ;)
@T6ofooh no shit dumbfuck i never said i wasnt one of them. you clicked on it too idiot. i wasnt talking about everyone i was talking about everyone including myself
@MySk8forLife lol your a goof arent you harsh came up in here calling others sad but now since i called you out your tryna cover up by saying all this nonsense lol weaksauce hahaa
@streetfightsecrets Your replies to comments, without a doubt, are the greatest, most wounding and also hilarious ones I have ever read on youtube, well done Sir!
@muffinhammer you just dispelled the erroneous belief that spelled is spelled "spelt" which is in fact a hexaploid species of wheat
sorry you just "dispelt" the erroneous belief that fucking up your spelling whilst criticising someones spelling isnt cool, which of course it isnt- except when it is done by me, because everything I do is cool- ergo, ipso facto it was cool only in this singular instance
Etymologically spelling is old english for "to speak" - no writing involved! ah the ironee
i wouldnt do that, i would put both of my legs in the air, bend down realy fast then hit him with your back of your head on the nose then his kind of blind
An eye gouge, nor a head bash would always work because of a potential size difference. Plus, not everyone is flexible enough to do that. The best thing to do in all common situations, is to grab at the arm as most people do, and drop your weight. That one bicep muscle is then holding your whole body weight. Unless he can arm-curl your weight, he won't be holding you up. Plus, once you're down there, there's more u can do, and there's protection for your back if there's more than 1 guy.
This is something even my sixty-eight-year-old grandmother can do. Even if you weight as little as 100 lbs, that guy with beefy arms is not going to be able to hold up your whole weight with one arm.
@ColonelMarksman this is the most practical headlock street fight escape i've ever seen. by dropping you weight he would instinctively catch your weight from the neck with his forearm/bicep and you would be choking yourself.
Can you arm-curl 90 lbs? If you can't, you won't be able to hold up even my 10-yr-old cousin, much less my 155. I've used this before and it works every time. I've taught it to a child who successfully used it on an older brother 3x her size. You grab on the arm, and literally, hang on it like swinging on a monkey bar. Because they can't exert enough upward force, there is no choking because you're bringing them down to the ground. Now, down to your level, you can inflict serious damage.
thats the thing, a street fight can go any way... sometimes these things just won't work, or you wont have you're mind on doing this because survival instinct takes over... peace :P
these tricks are good if u know how to fight.but if u know nothin about fighting u never use these tricks.thinkin abuot take to much time and your enemy kick your ass.always punch there balls not the eyes,easyer to find them ^^
getting out of a headlock is not easy. Yes, you have to attack him with headbutts, edge-of-the-hand blows on the thy's,scraping his chin with the inside of your foot. When he loosenes his grip, go for the testicles, and rip his head to the rear, by eye gauges, coming from the rear and grabbing his eye sockets. And pull his head to the rear.
lol this technique is sick i did this to a jack off that pissed me off, use ur forehead and smash it down on his nose, he'll be dazed like as if someone poked him in the eyes
I've never been able to do anything in a fight that I wanted to do just sitting there thinking about what I'd do when I get into fight. I ALWAYS wing it...usually I win sometimes I lose but almost every time I've made a plan I've lost but when I go all out in a frenzy I do a helluva lot better than making a fight plan. I do better in confrontation than anything. Training moves never do any good for me except for ground fighting cuz not a lot of punks on the street can survive being taken down.
I hope i can still apply that in real life situations, i've seen another vid from youtube and i think it also helps; youtube(dot) com/watch?v=yQjHWnclXog
im board hardly never comment on vids...... But I get into many fight at skool and thheres never time to do that stuff.... all it is are strong punches everywhere...... but never no if i have a chance to do this I will do it
Hi. I subscribed to you, very nice videos but one thing, the speech and the image are asynchronous and that with your english accent makes it difficult to understand.
The eye poke from the rear would be difficult especially since its likely someone would be dragging you the rear while applying the choke. Many people also use a rear strangle hold as well and your out in a few seconds. If you sidestep and move back and hit to the groin with a hammerfist it is a safer technique especially for children woman or the elderly.
callihn you are such a hard man (wanker) the reason he didnt burst your ear drum is coz he didnt doit right. its also about practice you strikes etc useing ur body weight. they teach that strike in millitary combatives
BTW, you people going for the slapping and busting ear drums have a lot to learn, the human body is not made out of glass, I had a fool try that one on me awhile back, my ear drums didn't bust, I even let him try it a few times, then I sent him home with a busted nose and whiplash and he still doesn't know how it happened. But I'll tell you, he had a plan, I didn't I just adapted to his at the worst possible time for him.
Raj doestn like fighting much, hes very laid back, he's more interested in chasing girls (in that sense hes a lot smarter than the rest of us sat here watching how to beat other men up!lol!)
well, when we grapple i can usually submit him, but im 16 stone to his 13...so i just crush him, like a walrus.
Give him a shotgun, i reckon he would kick my ass!
I purchased one of Richie's dvd's and it is one of my favorite out of the thousands of dollars worth of dvds, and vhs instructionals I have. It works!
I got the impression from your initial reply that you meant people would become 'grapplers' just by learning the basics. Apparently, I misread the context and we're basically talking about the same thing. Mystery solved.
BJJ is good for what it is...grappling with gis in a controlled sport enviroment. While the guy wasn't the greatest instructor in the world, he does make the point that on the street you SHOULD go for eye gouge, slapping ears (bursting ear drums) and etc vs grapplers
Very true, particularly if you aren't a grappler yourself. Regardless of your training, if you get stuck on the ground for too long bad things tend to happen.
But everyone serious about there self protection should learn at least the basics of grappling, get some flight time rolling, makes you fitter and stronger and builds confidence... IMHO
I agree that learning basic grappling is helpful. I consider a "grappler," however, to be somebody who devotes the majority of their training time to grappling.
chiiiill! its just a video... you are right eye gouges are overrated as fight finishers for people who train how to deal with them... but saying things like "if you gouge my eyes i will break them off and feed them to my dog" or whatever makes you sound like a cyber ninja
haha, well, i liked the other lessons, but it's true, eye gouges, are really easy to nullified, just by turning ur face, plus, u can't reach the eyes that easily with that kind of headlock, and even if u do, u will quickly let go if the other guy uses just a little bit more strenght.
eye gouging is not a incapasitating technique on it's own, for you or anybody to believe or teach this as the deadly is wrong and shows a total lack of field testing. you gouge my eyes, I will break your fingers... simple and to the point
position before submission, from a sanding position, you just take ONE step back, no more pressure, point in case, Yuki Nakai (took an "accidental" eye gouge, lost the yey, won the fight)
With all due respect, giving an example from an MMA fight in a discussion of street fighting techniques shows a gap in understanding. If Gerard Gordeau had driven his thumb into the back of Yukis eye and then ruptured the eyeball and then ripped it out of its socket Yuki would not have one the fight.
With respect to Yuki who fought with tremendous heart against the cheating frenchman, the technique with which he finished that particular fight is also irrelvant in a discussion of streetfighting techniques.
once again, if you're not in a better position, against somebody who understand position, this is not gonna work, once again, we can argue all we want, chances are u are not gonna give in in your point, and I'm not gonna do it either, the best bet will be to go to a BJJ place near you, most of them have an open door policy, and explain your point and let them break your arm for your trouble (SPORT STYLE if you will)
chances are he would have, then again, this is a purely academic discussion, since there is no way to prove one way or another. and I know you believe that there's a big difference between the ring and the street, but you will be surprised how easily a MMA fighter can adapt to the situation, if you would take the time to investigate a little more
Just calm down and regain some perspective my friend. Its just a video clip, its only the internet. This is not the place for veiled threats against my person now is it? :)
You keep going on about BJJ. BJJ isnt the be all and end end all of MMA, Ive been to my two local BJJ classes here in Spain, both schools are run by Brazilians and have produced "champion competitors" and I think they were both so weak its put me off BJJ. You should be aware that just like any style there are shit BJJ teachers and practitioners. I would rather go to a hard Judo or Sub Wrestling class.
ha, funny stuff, I mentioned BJJ because of their open door policy in most of their places. who're the instructors in your two local places?
like any style, it produces bad competitors and instructors but unlike many arts, they have a very hard quality control when it comes to advance in belts, etc. (you don't see a 10 years old kid with a black belt, etc.)
Ive been doing BJJ for over 10 years, started out with Gracie Barra when they first came to UK and I have to say that up until I moved to Spain I would have agreed with you about the quality control in BJJ. (Compared to other martial arts the standards are very, very high.) But the whole ethos of the way Ive seen it taught here is totally different and much, much softer than waht Ive been used to in the UK.
The UK BJJ school that I trained with most recently was affiliated to Chris Brennan and it was all no-gi, very competitive, very MMA orientated. This stuff here in Spain is ALL GI and its like very unaggressive, highly technical Judo. Which is fine if you're into it, but personally I find it boring.
Plus I think the more you get into highly technical, Gi based submissions, whilst it keeps you fit and strong, the less "Street" applicable it becomes. But I am a staunch defender of having a solid base in 50-50 (standup and grappling) MMA training for Street defense. You have to know how what its like to make hard contact with someone at least or your going to be in for a shock when it happens is my view.
I'm gonna have to agree with you in the gi vs no gi comment, I give you that one, and I agree with the 50-50 comment; however, as a grappler, my issue here is with the eye gouge as a fight finishing move
Haha, I forgot all about this. Thank God for YT's "past comments" thing. Not to restart a dorky Internet warrior beef, but nobody stated it was a guaranteed fight stopper. But if I dug my thumb into your eye in the clinch and used it to set up a elbow to your jaw right after, you wouldn't breaking anybody's fingers.
sure you would flower, I mean, I'm sure your thumbs are faster than your reply buttom and it will take you lest than 8 months to rake my eyes out... or not
Yeah I'd go nice and slow so you could enjoy it, since you wouldn't be able to do nothin' about it anyway. "Break your fingers", yeah all righty. Where'd you learn that, ninjutsu?
so you came back to troll... nice job there champ, however the argument was over.... get a life kid, I'm done with this video, the poster and I finish our argument agreeing on many points, and disagreeing on others. If you want to keep trolling, let's do it on private messages so we don't clusterf@ck the comments for this video
Humans are weak at way more places than just those. Every joint is a weakness, every nerve cluster is a weakness,every organ can be ruptured every bone broken. Eye-gouges can be easily nullified by simply putting your head down, if you really want to be good at self defense make sure you train in other methods.
Good video, thanks for putting this up... Yes, it is a bad example when teachers "teach" you by doing all these stationary techniques... Okay, fine, a few times so you know where to grab, but then take it semi-real, have them feel what it is like, like you said, to be placed into a real choke-hold. Great video, good luck with more.
tomcat2222 7 months ago
Great vids! You have very valid info I dont see this a lot! Good job! PS if the best you can come up with to undermine some one is bad spelling, then you IQ is low good spelling or not ;) You ever try spelling words in a street fight? cause that is the topic lol If you want to spell go to a spelling channnel ;)
1stNathanBlades 8 months ago
Ha,noone would ever try to fuck with this guy.
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Madmatt18 1 year ago
this would work if everyone was a steroid junkie, but most of the population are lanky nerds...
sharikugan123 1 year ago
@sharikugan123 most of the population should take up lifting weights on a regular basis... it makes life taste better
streetfightsecrets 8 months ago 3
finally a technique for counter chokes from behind
1ameise1 1 year ago
HADOUKEN!!!
spiritomb123 1 year ago
@spiritomb123 sorry i was ment to like lol.....sonic boom!
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KetchupMurder 1 year ago
how sad that more than 150k people cant fight...
MySk8forLife 1 year ago
@MySk8forLife lol u just happened to click on this video?? hahahaha
T6ofooh 1 year ago
@T6ofooh no shit dumbfuck i never said i wasnt one of them. you clicked on it too idiot. i wasnt talking about everyone i was talking about everyone including myself
MySk8forLife 1 year ago
@MySk8forLife lol so u pretty much calling urself sad then aite lol
T6ofooh 1 year ago
@T6ofooh you clicked on this too. we're all sad. are you finished? stop QQ
MySk8forLife 1 year ago
@MySk8forLife lol your a goof arent you harsh came up in here calling others sad but now since i called you out your tryna cover up by saying all this nonsense lol weaksauce hahaa
T6ofooh 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets Your replies to comments, without a doubt, are the greatest, most wounding and also hilarious ones I have ever read on youtube, well done Sir!
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TheGangsterelvis 1 year ago
now i know to rip their eyes out
P0oiSCo0L 1 year ago
that stuff may work 4 u but im not
buff and ur a tank dude
blackriser 1 year ago
wing tsun is a realy good selfdefending sport!
MBSmaspalomas 1 year ago
those are good move thank =)
delicious1218 1 year ago
nice vid
TheThorin01 1 year ago
sry
TheThorin01 1 year ago
streetfightsecrets you are a jurk.
TheThorin01 1 year ago
@TheThorin01 I think its spelt "jerk"... but thanks for posting
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago 28
@streetfightsecrets I think its spelt spelled
muffinhammer 1 year ago 3
@muffinhammer you just dispelled the erroneous belief that spelled is spelled "spelt" which is in fact a hexaploid species of wheat
sorry you just "dispelt" the erroneous belief that fucking up your spelling whilst criticising someones spelling isnt cool, which of course it isnt- except when it is done by me, because everything I do is cool- ergo, ipso facto it was cool only in this singular instance
Etymologically spelling is old english for "to speak" - no writing involved! ah the ironee
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago 12
@streetfightsecrets mindfuck.....??.....
brennankk 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets can you spell, "Grammar Nazi"?
Assassin859 1 year ago
@Assassin859 yes!
it's: "gramur natsee" I believe.
FanKyooo!
streetfightsecrets 1 year ago 9
@streetfightsecrets LOL! I love your humour, Richie!
ThaNat79 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets Hahahaha, owned!
retard194 1 year ago
@streetfightsecrets LOOOOOL!
ThaNat79 1 year ago
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lanceloteful 1 year ago
back head lock - Hand on arm so he can't choke you, other hand, snap their thumb.
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yo dawg i get a bunch of my nigger friends to jump the dude.
gekko101 2 years ago
@gekko101 Mann You a wannabe first off.Plus gangin isnt how you win, Dick head!
s0cc3rm0nk3y 2 years ago
@gekko101 thats coz ya cant fight ya own battles
yrs12345 1 year ago
OMG thank you so much
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jmnage 2 years ago
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i wouldnt do that, i would put both of my legs in the air, bend down realy fast then hit him with your back of your head on the nose then his kind of blind
boywhonlycomment 2 years ago
An eye gouge, nor a head bash would always work because of a potential size difference. Plus, not everyone is flexible enough to do that. The best thing to do in all common situations, is to grab at the arm as most people do, and drop your weight. That one bicep muscle is then holding your whole body weight. Unless he can arm-curl your weight, he won't be holding you up. Plus, once you're down there, there's more u can do, and there's protection for your back if there's more than 1 guy.
ColonelMarksman 2 years ago
This is something even my sixty-eight-year-old grandmother can do. Even if you weight as little as 100 lbs, that guy with beefy arms is not going to be able to hold up your whole weight with one arm.
ColonelMarksman 2 years ago
@ColonelMarksman this is the most practical headlock street fight escape i've ever seen. by dropping you weight he would instinctively catch your weight from the neck with his forearm/bicep and you would be choking yourself.
maxgunn555 2 years ago
Can you arm-curl 90 lbs? If you can't, you won't be able to hold up even my 10-yr-old cousin, much less my 155. I've used this before and it works every time. I've taught it to a child who successfully used it on an older brother 3x her size. You grab on the arm, and literally, hang on it like swinging on a monkey bar. Because they can't exert enough upward force, there is no choking because you're bringing them down to the ground. Now, down to your level, you can inflict serious damage.
ColonelMarksman 1 year ago
I'm referring to an easier, more useful and practical technique that what is shown.
ColonelMarksman 1 year ago
@ColonelMarksman but even if he manages to 'arm curl' you for a second or two wouldnt that be enough to seriously choke you?
maxgunn555 1 year ago
@ColonelMarksman Won't they just try stepping on you or knee your face?
Extremejedi 1 year ago
thats the thing, a street fight can go any way... sometimes these things just won't work, or you wont have you're mind on doing this because survival instinct takes over... peace :P
ImOneCrazyFucker 2 years ago
these tricks are good if u know how to fight.but if u know nothin about fighting u never use these tricks.thinkin abuot take to much time and your enemy kick your ass.always punch there balls not the eyes,easyer to find them ^^
huggster81 2 years ago 4
very good, i guess when your in a fight you dont really think about grabbing the guys eyes, but...it works...what if they try to trip you
HarrisGames 2 years ago
if someone headlocks you or pretzel hold smash the back of your head into their face itll work
BladeWolf999 2 years ago 3
If that person knew anything about fighting, they would have one arm around your neck and the other twisting your head 90 degrees.
andrew78596 2 years ago
getting out of a headlock is not easy. Yes, you have to attack him with headbutts, edge-of-the-hand blows on the thy's,scraping his chin with the inside of your foot. When he loosenes his grip, go for the testicles, and rip his head to the rear, by eye gauges, coming from the rear and grabbing his eye sockets. And pull his head to the rear.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
that eye stuff is pretty bad ass
d3nniiss 2 years ago
lol this technique is sick i did this to a jack off that pissed me off, use ur forehead and smash it down on his nose, he'll be dazed like as if someone poked him in the eyes
FrilledSword 2 years ago
just punch them in the face
77majortom77 2 years ago 21
majortom... its not that easy when its the real thing..
vampire1715 2 years ago
I've never been able to do anything in a fight that I wanted to do just sitting there thinking about what I'd do when I get into fight. I ALWAYS wing it...usually I win sometimes I lose but almost every time I've made a plan I've lost but when I go all out in a frenzy I do a helluva lot better than making a fight plan. I do better in confrontation than anything. Training moves never do any good for me except for ground fighting cuz not a lot of punks on the street can survive being taken down.
stevengeaton 2 years ago
you are the best fighting techer in you tube 5/5
pyroclasim 2 years ago 7
def not, bet he cant hold his own in a cage
andrew7913 2 years ago 2
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safadw 3 years ago
yeah it should just be a rapid series of techniques with no explanation- OH NO! that would be called a "film"
this is an "instructional"- which means until I learn the gift of communciating my teaching psychically i have to TALK
you clicked a link that states "Learn to Fight / Street Fight Tips :"self defense instructional video clip"
wasnt it what you were expecting, idiot?
streetfightsecrets 3 years ago
you idiot....
pedroe92 2 years ago
I hope i can still apply that in real life situations, i've seen another vid from youtube and i think it also helps; youtube(dot) com/watch?v=yQjHWnclXog
ma09k 3 years ago
would pulling on someone's ear instead of eye gouge be ok? jw if it would work as well as eye gouge.
oldschoolmonkeys 3 years ago
yahh... vital points really works
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elvislee23 3 years ago
repulsive25 your a faggot only nob heds stamp you fight like a man with your fists you fanny
scootler 3 years ago
Nice
sigveurne 3 years ago
Thanks for this. Gonna watch all for sure!
DDeDokter 3 years ago
You guys have it together, keep it up ;)
ThumpingLikeThis 3 years ago
i do that in my school, it woks thanks you!, no bullies mess with me now.
elvicecity 3 years ago 6
ok thanks =]
sportsfornoobs 3 years ago
what can you do to get out of gullotines and choke locks besides eye gouging?
sportsfornoobs 3 years ago
the grapplers have the best countergrappling moves
i'll get my mate who is a MMA instructor to do some clips
streetfightsecrets 3 years ago
have u tried a pinch on the back of the leg from headlocks etc. It probably wouldnt work on a coked up maniac but ive seen it make 16 stone men jump.
liamgardinerrs 3 years ago
im board hardly never comment on vids...... But I get into many fight at skool and thheres never time to do that stuff.... all it is are strong punches everywhere...... but never no if i have a chance to do this I will do it
MuzICL0VA2007 3 years ago
sum1 starts,, fukn hedbutt dem an stamp all ova dem
Repulsive25 3 years ago
But if i had a knife...
adnmatt 3 years ago
Then not only wud u be a fag but arrested aswell
LeighRollo2006 3 years ago 4
Hi. I subscribed to you, very nice videos but one thing, the speech and the image are asynchronous and that with your english accent makes it difficult to understand.
Thanks and keep the good job.
adepsa 3 years ago
awesome. thanks so much- im just downloading the ebook. really appreciate it. 5 stars. ty n tc.
flix369 3 years ago
great job...do you have a DVD for sale?
Thanks for your expertise!
Rob
Shortbusbob1964 3 years ago
i think he has more then 1 dvd available.
and indeed he's very good at teaching.
durexdurpaneu 3 years ago
hi guys sorry for not answering sooner
if you go to the "more info" link above and open it you will find a link to my site and my dvds
cheers
Richie
streetfightsecrets 3 years ago
hi is there a way if somebody tried to jab me i could get to there throat?
wwechamp7 3 years ago
lol love the techs mate!
Valoren 3 years ago
Im sick of droping it. im going to waste som1 next term
FelixRockyRicardo 3 years ago 2
who the heck would fight you your biceps look like cantaloupes
monimabdullah 3 years ago
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venuschickhunter 3 years ago
my accent is scouse not irish- who is this "Ira" your referring to?
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septic tanks... pffft.
streetfightsecrets 3 years ago
He means the Irish Republican Army...
majicKsaa 3 years ago
septic tanks...
streetfightsecrets 3 years ago
The eye poke from the rear would be difficult especially since its likely someone would be dragging you the rear while applying the choke. Many people also use a rear strangle hold as well and your out in a few seconds. If you sidestep and move back and hit to the groin with a hammerfist it is a safer technique especially for children woman or the elderly.
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becca715 4 years ago
callihn you are such a hard man (wanker) the reason he didnt burst your ear drum is coz he didnt doit right. its also about practice you strikes etc useing ur body weight. they teach that strike in millitary combatives
badger0987 5 years ago
the guy probably didnt do it right
noodlegrannybill 5 years ago
BTW, you people going for the slapping and busting ear drums have a lot to learn, the human body is not made out of glass, I had a fool try that one on me awhile back, my ear drums didn't bust, I even let him try it a few times, then I sent him home with a busted nose and whiplash and he still doesn't know how it happened. But I'll tell you, he had a plan, I didn't I just adapted to his at the worst possible time for him.
callihn 5 years ago
Me and Raj? loL!
Raj doestn like fighting much, hes very laid back, he's more interested in chasing girls (in that sense hes a lot smarter than the rest of us sat here watching how to beat other men up!lol!)
well, when we grapple i can usually submit him, but im 16 stone to his 13...so i just crush him, like a walrus.
Give him a shotgun, i reckon he would kick my ass!
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
what I want to know is who would win in a fight out of them two.
nott4ever 5 years ago
I purchased one of Richie's dvd's and it is one of my favorite out of the thousands of dollars worth of dvds, and vhs instructionals I have. It works!
LDSMishael 5 years ago
oh yeah sure... you couldnt really consider someone a "grappler" per se if they just knew the basics, no way. Solved as you say ;0)
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
Sure, I agree... but, um, actually... i think im missing your point, sorry mate!
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
I got the impression from your initial reply that you meant people would become 'grapplers' just by learning the basics. Apparently, I misread the context and we're basically talking about the same thing. Mystery solved.
MischaC 5 years ago
BJJ is good for what it is...grappling with gis in a controlled sport enviroment. While the guy wasn't the greatest instructor in the world, he does make the point that on the street you SHOULD go for eye gouge, slapping ears (bursting ear drums) and etc vs grapplers
MarcElliott 5 years ago
Very true, particularly if you aren't a grappler yourself. Regardless of your training, if you get stuck on the ground for too long bad things tend to happen.
MischaC 5 years ago
But everyone serious about there self protection should learn at least the basics of grappling, get some flight time rolling, makes you fitter and stronger and builds confidence... IMHO
Richie
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
I agree that learning basic grappling is helpful. I consider a "grappler," however, to be somebody who devotes the majority of their training time to grappling.
MischaC 5 years ago
i know strenghth aint everything but would anyone WANT to start on this guy?look at the muscle on him lol
becca715 5 years ago
chiiiill! its just a video... you are right eye gouges are overrated as fight finishers for people who train how to deal with them... but saying things like "if you gouge my eyes i will break them off and feed them to my dog" or whatever makes you sound like a cyber ninja
and only I am Ninja ;0)
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
haha, well, i liked the other lessons, but it's true, eye gouges, are really easy to nullified, just by turning ur face, plus, u can't reach the eyes that easily with that kind of headlock, and even if u do, u will quickly let go if the other guy uses just a little bit more strenght.
keltonwintermoon 5 years ago
"eye gouges, are really easy to nullified, just by turning ur face, plus, u can't reach the eyes that easily with that kind of headlock"
Im sorry, that simply isnt my experience at all, so cant agree with that statement. But thanks for posting :0)
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
It's not about "going limp"...it's about pushing on a guy in such a way that he has to let go or do something to stop you.
Plimp73 5 years ago
"or do something about to stop you"
hence the part where I said I will maul the person
Neko687 5 years ago
I'm sorry, if you try to attack my eyes like that, my arm is not gonna go limp... I'm just gonna get piss and maul you
Neko687 5 years ago
lol i r tough 2 ovar intarnet
RRFCaptain 5 years ago
ok, wanna try again?, what the hell did you try to spell?
Neko687 5 years ago
I think you missed the point of inserting eye gouges into your fighting methods bro.
RRFCaptain 5 years ago
eye gouging is not a incapasitating technique on it's own, for you or anybody to believe or teach this as the deadly is wrong and shows a total lack of field testing. you gouge my eyes, I will break your fingers... simple and to the point
Neko687 5 years ago
yeah but dude, waht if he (easily) gouges hard enough to blind you? you cant just say your too tough to care then..
calumhm1 5 years ago
position before submission, from a sanding position, you just take ONE step back, no more pressure, point in case, Yuki Nakai (took an "accidental" eye gouge, lost the yey, won the fight)
Neko687 5 years ago
With all due respect, giving an example from an MMA fight in a discussion of street fighting techniques shows a gap in understanding. If Gerard Gordeau had driven his thumb into the back of Yukis eye and then ruptured the eyeball and then ripped it out of its socket Yuki would not have one the fight.
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
With respect to Yuki who fought with tremendous heart against the cheating frenchman, the technique with which he finished that particular fight is also irrelvant in a discussion of streetfighting techniques.
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
once again, if you're not in a better position, against somebody who understand position, this is not gonna work, once again, we can argue all we want, chances are u are not gonna give in in your point, and I'm not gonna do it either, the best bet will be to go to a BJJ place near you, most of them have an open door policy, and explain your point and let them break your arm for your trouble (SPORT STYLE if you will)
Neko687 5 years ago
chances are he would have, then again, this is a purely academic discussion, since there is no way to prove one way or another. and I know you believe that there's a big difference between the ring and the street, but you will be surprised how easily a MMA fighter can adapt to the situation, if you would take the time to investigate a little more
Neko687 5 years ago
Just calm down and regain some perspective my friend. Its just a video clip, its only the internet. This is not the place for veiled threats against my person now is it? :)
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
Like I said, I can't threat you, that's why I said go to your local BJJ place, however, if you ever come to south Florida, let me know :)
Neko687 5 years ago
You keep going on about BJJ. BJJ isnt the be all and end end all of MMA, Ive been to my two local BJJ classes here in Spain, both schools are run by Brazilians and have produced "champion competitors" and I think they were both so weak its put me off BJJ. You should be aware that just like any style there are shit BJJ teachers and practitioners. I would rather go to a hard Judo or Sub Wrestling class.
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
ha, funny stuff, I mentioned BJJ because of their open door policy in most of their places. who're the instructors in your two local places?
like any style, it produces bad competitors and instructors but unlike many arts, they have a very hard quality control when it comes to advance in belts, etc. (you don't see a 10 years old kid with a black belt, etc.)
Neko687 5 years ago
Ive been doing BJJ for over 10 years, started out with Gracie Barra when they first came to UK and I have to say that up until I moved to Spain I would have agreed with you about the quality control in BJJ. (Compared to other martial arts the standards are very, very high.) But the whole ethos of the way Ive seen it taught here is totally different and much, much softer than waht Ive been used to in the UK.
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
The UK BJJ school that I trained with most recently was affiliated to Chris Brennan and it was all no-gi, very competitive, very MMA orientated. This stuff here in Spain is ALL GI and its like very unaggressive, highly technical Judo. Which is fine if you're into it, but personally I find it boring.
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
Plus I think the more you get into highly technical, Gi based submissions, whilst it keeps you fit and strong, the less "Street" applicable it becomes. But I am a staunch defender of having a solid base in 50-50 (standup and grappling) MMA training for Street defense. You have to know how what its like to make hard contact with someone at least or your going to be in for a shock when it happens is my view.
streetfightsecrets 5 years ago
I'm gonna have to agree with you in the gi vs no gi comment, I give you that one, and I agree with the 50-50 comment; however, as a grappler, my issue here is with the eye gouge as a fight finishing move
Neko687 5 years ago
Haha, I forgot all about this. Thank God for YT's "past comments" thing. Not to restart a dorky Internet warrior beef, but nobody stated it was a guaranteed fight stopper. But if I dug my thumb into your eye in the clinch and used it to set up a elbow to your jaw right after, you wouldn't breaking anybody's fingers.
RRFCaptain 4 years ago
sure you would flower, I mean, I'm sure your thumbs are faster than your reply buttom and it will take you lest than 8 months to rake my eyes out... or not
Neko687 4 years ago
Yeah I'd go nice and slow so you could enjoy it, since you wouldn't be able to do nothin' about it anyway. "Break your fingers", yeah all righty. Where'd you learn that, ninjutsu?
RRFCaptain 4 years ago
funny you mention that since you're the one dress in black handling "weapons" you're the d3adly.
F.U. kid, it took you 7 months to start beef in something that has been proven as a low probability move, nice going.
Neko687 4 years ago
Like I said, I came back because I remembered how hilarious you were. Maybe you missed that part. You didn't disappoint me!
RRFCaptain 4 years ago
so you came back to troll... nice job there champ, however the argument was over.... get a life kid, I'm done with this video, the poster and I finish our argument agreeing on many points, and disagreeing on others. If you want to keep trolling, let's do it on private messages so we don't clusterf@ck the comments for this video
Neko687 4 years ago
No you're right, I like Rich's videos and I don't want to mess up the comments. I'll see you later lean mean killa.
RRFCaptain 4 years ago
Humans are weak at way more places than just those. Every joint is a weakness, every nerve cluster is a weakness,every organ can be ruptured every bone broken. Eye-gouges can be easily nullified by simply putting your head down, if you really want to be good at self defense make sure you train in other methods.
Eblaxer 5 years ago
not bad... eye attacks, eyes are one of the weakness og the humans, same as nose and ears.
ultrauband 5 years ago