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  • If you meant why was he taking off with the nose at such a steep angle, it's because of the special effects they had back in 1982. If you mean why did he take off in such a hurry, I used the scene where he is escaping Soviet air base where it was being developed so of course he would be in a hurry.

  • btw, for those of you who are Sukhoi fans, you'll be glad to know that the VF-25 Messiah of Macross Frontier is based on the airframe of the Su-27 Flanker and the YF-19 Excalibur of Macross Plus resembles the Su-47 Berkut with it's forward swept wings. However, Macross Plus came out several years before the Su-47's existence was made public, which proves that the mecha designer Shoji Kawamori is a genius.

  • Forward swept wings have existed on aircraft since world war 2. A few experimental German jet aircraft had them, and then they were revived in the 80s with the x-29. There are multiple sources of inspiration that he could have drawn upon. He did not invent forward swept wings as your post would suggest.

  • I didn't say he invented forward swept wings I just meant that the YF-19's resemblance to the Su-47 is uncanny and that the forward swept wings were the most notable similarity. However, unlike the Su-47 which was criticized for having a cockpit with too many obstructions, the YF-19 has a cockpit with an LCD display mounted on the foot section to provide a 360 degree view from top to bottom, though this feature might have been influenced by the panoramic cockpits of the Zeta Gundam series.

  • Yes, but how does that prove he's a genius? He's an artist relying on inspiration to make visual designs, not an aircraft designer that's ahead of his time. Aircraft designers don't design aircraft to look good. Any resemblance of his designs to actual aircraft are either by imitation, chance, or both.

  • just a bad video

  • MiGs suck anyway. Had it been designed by Sukhoi... The result would have been the same. Valkyries are comparatively slow, but they have so many advantages, even an Ace Combat super plane would be cannon fodder at best. (I love Ace Combat and its superplanes, ok?)

  • you could just have a ADFX-01 Morgan or a ADF-01 fire a laser beam

  • Lasers are cheating. Besides that, the VF series of planes was designed to take direct hits from laser weaponry. The Falken and Morgan lasers are of lower power than the Mauler ROV on the Valkyries, which is obviously the minimum you design the armor for, is your own weaponry. Hopefully, your weapons are more powerful, so theirs glance off. Valkyries are better than Falkens.

  • the morgan also has burst missles

  • Eh... Given, the Morgan has burst missiles, but the VFs have micro-missile pods. It's practically the same thing, as they are both high-quantity explosives.

  • yes but does the vf-series have burst missles,and a TLS laser system and supersonic capability and ecm counter measures?

    (and no lasers are not cheating)

  • Burst Missiles: No.

    TLS Laser: No.

    Supersonic Capability: Yes. The 0 just can't go above mach 1.8 or transform supersonically.

    ECM: Yes.

    Pulse-capable laser: Yes.

    Guided Micro Missile System: Yes.

    Nuclear Alternative Warhead: Yes.

  • grrr fine. but the morgan is more likly to built now than the vf-series; youll have to wait a loooong while for that.

  • Look at it this way: The Morgan is still experimental, even though it was built 13 years ago. The first VF saw service this June, and the first VF-1S rolled out of the production line last month.

  • no it didnt.......did it?

  • Well, look at it this way: Macross Zero happens in June 2008. The first VF-1 rolled off of the line in November 2008. SWI started in February 2009. The ADFX-02 Morgan (X meaning Experimental) saw action in 1995, during the Belkan War.

  • Actually, after months of painstaking research into mechanical and electronic technologies, I have determined that there are only two existing technologies that need to be perfected to make a VF-0 Pheonix (the VF-0 is called the Pheonix, its successor the VF-1 is called the Valkyrie). One: The system that tracks the pilots eye movements, is being developed by an engineering company. But instead of using lasers to track eye movement, it utilizes a magnetized contact lens worn by the pilot.

  • Eye tracking is already in use for the Apache Gunship

  • That system only tracks head movement. It doesn't track eye movement. The lens is only so the pilot can see the crosshair. The Mig-29 uses a similar target acquisition system. However, it is impractical to use a system that only tracks head movement to target several incoming missiles at once, as head movement is slower than eye movement and is less precise.

  • Two: Carbon Nanotubes, which are fibers composed of carbon atoms neatly arranged to form tube-shaped molecules. They have a tensile strength 13-53 times stronger than steel cables and contract when an electric current is applied to them, making them the ideal artificial muscles to move the heavy limbs of a variable fighter in Battroid or GERWALK mode, as well as during transformation.

  • @NexAngelus405

    My favorite Macross jet is the VF-19 :D

  • It shouldn't really matter now. Mikoyan and Sukhoi have merged into the United Aircraft Corporation.

  • Eh, they're still designed by their own, old, private engineering teams. In my opinion, Sukhoi makes better planes, but Mikoyans are, apparently, cheaper and more plentiful.

  • This is really perfect!

  • fxck! good idea to mixed 2,and worst idea to let a ridiculous f14-like crap won the battle.

  • Er... The F-14, like all American fighters, always beat any MiGs it fought. I believe there were only 3 Tommies shot down by enemy MiGs. Mikhoyan is not a good designer, ok? The VF-0S is a variable fighter, giving it every advantage, except speed. VFs are a bit on the slow side. However, they can stop almost instantly, hover, and perform surface combat by utilizing the transforming ability of the plane. Now, never call the F-14, or anything like it, crap.

  • Sage advice.

  • VF-0 was used in macross 0 so its better than a mig

  • I am not Japanese. I'm a half-Thai American citizen who loves anime and I think a jet fighter that transforms into a giant robot is cooler than one with a thought controlled weapons system.

  • Very true... BUT!! A jet fighter that transforms into a giant robot AND has thought-controlled systems is even cooler, i.e. the YF-21, yeah?

  • Yeah, in fact, the YF-21's control system was inspired by Firefox, however only the Firefox's weapons were thought controlled while all of the YF-21's systems were thought controlled and it also provided feedback to the pilot's brain.

  • I never liked thought control. I like having all of the controls in my hands and feet, not my brain. KnowwhatImean?

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