An American convert to islam june 5th 2009 by my phone cam

[arsalan6932]

islam is greaten then christan

[crobarus]

@arsalan6932 than not then . And you're entitled to your opinion. Just don't suicide bomb anyone who disagrees with you

[oooodin]

fascist nazi loving paedo worshippers???

[mfkfrsh]

@oooodin Abusing Muslims is very, proving them wrong with logical arguments is impossible.

[shehed11]

I know, I also think they should have hugged him. It would make him feel welcome. And the Imams should make it shorter for the newcomers instead of making them recite the difficult Ayah in the beginning already.

[msiddiqui135]

@Taters657 Are you really serious? You really dont know that jesus never met paul? paul was a bounty hunter of christians, this was long after death of jesus and paul used to hunt christians to collect bounty. It was on the way to jerusalem that he had a vision of jesus (Paul claims it), but the desciples of jesus did not trust him until Barnabas called him back. Since then Paul started working for the control of Christians. This what the bible Scholars say or please google it

[msiddiqui135]

@Taters657 you are totally mislead. Red letter means the words which jesus said and not at aul claims. Please check out the red letter bible

[msiddiqui135]

@Taters657 when alive, Jesus never spoke of Paul and never knew who he was. Imagine f paul was so imporant erson how comJess ever spoke about him. It was paul the Fraud, who cla that heJesus came n his vision. Again I am saying there ar hundreds of people (some of Youtube as well) who claimed to have met Jesus and i they write a bible ill u beleive in it?

[msiddiqui135]

@Taters657 Jesus talking to Paul.......are you crazy, paul claimed that jesus came in his vision, just to gain credibility in his fight to win over desciples of jesus. just check youtube and you will see dozens of people claiming to have seen jesus. Does that mean if they write letter and chapter...you will add them in NT? All those who claim to have vision of jesus are Fraud.

[msiddiqui135]

@Taters657 That is exactly what my point was that paul is not only contradictory to jesus but also to himself sometimes. Your pont is correct, after all he was just ahuman who wanted to wrest the control of the early church from the decsipples of jesus and from jesus brother.

[Billupsj123]

I know this guy I see him in our mosque. I remember him telling us he was going to saudia to become a scholar, I'm sure he's there by now.

[msiddiqui135]

I really respect these new converts/reverts as they are the best muslims

[spin344]

allahu akbar

[JeshuaLivingWord]

what do you think would happen if i went in that place and said "forgive them my Father, for they do not know, they know not that Christ is Lord, Son of You, the most high God." If i was lying, then you should have nothing to worry about. That is why even though many, who are truly of Christ, can easily, by God's will, prove to muslims through scripture that Jesus was/is The Prophet, and Muhammed was a liar. But because you do not accept truth, you seek to destroy bearers of it.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord Your statement contraducts yourself and this is the problem with the christian world that everyone has his defination of god. You siad that prophet muhammd is a liar. if he is a liar then do you think that he glorified jesus and his teachings...is that a lie too? Seraech the truth what jesus said ...not what Paul taught.

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 You can be a liar and still sometimes tell the truth, just to put that out there. But in Muhammed's case, yes, he is a liar. It doesnt matter whether he said Jesus is God, he is right if that was what he taught, but he goes on to preaching how he is as great as the messiah. Which is a lie. And paul wasnt the only one that spread Christainity, search what the bible teaches. And above that, search what GOD teaches.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord I follow only what jesus said and not what paul said. This is because paul contradicts jesus in many ways. more in the new testament 14 books out of 27 books are supposed be written by paul and he even glofifies himself in them. Please raed in bible what jesus said and not what paul said. jesus never claimed to be God and there is nothing as trinity or three God.

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 It doesnt matter how many books paul wrote, He is of Christ. And he NEVER contradicted Jesus. NEVER. I know what you are talking about, but for your sake, personal message me where you think paul contradicts Jesus. Also, John ch1 verse 1, in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS GOD. And look at verse 14, the Word was made flesh. God is Christ, and God came to earth.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord Paul glorified himeself in his letters and books. he changed jesus doctrine. here is one example Jesus says, "Follow Me." (Matt. 10:38)

Paul says, "Imitate Me." (1 Cor. 4:16; Phil. 3:17) Whom do you follow jesus or paul?

jesus says do charitable deed and do not boast (mark 6:3-4) hers is what paul says......Seeing that many boast according to the flesh, I also will boast." (2 Cor. 11:17-18). many christian scholars do agree with me on these points.

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 You took that out of context. Look at the FIRST verse of the chapter you gave me (1 cor. ch4 vs1) 1"Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God."

From that we see that Paul CLEARLY says he is under Christ, and when he says "imitate me", he is saying that becasue he also imitates Christ. And since the people he is talkign to have not seen Christ, Paul is teaching them using his actions, which is following Christ.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord need more on Boasting. "For I know your eagerness, of which I boast to Macedonia on your behalf, that Achaia was ready a year ago; and your zeal has aroused the greater number." (2 Corinthians 9:2)

Paul says he boasts about others, while teaching that we ought not to boast.

"For even if I also should boast somewhat more fully of our authority (which the Lord has given us for building up, and not for pulling you down) I will not be put to shame…" (2 Corinthians 10:8)

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 And they are not christian scholars if they have no idea what they are talking about. Well, mabye they are, but again you must konw that certificates and achievements given by men does not make one wise in the wisdom of God. Actually, the wisdom of man is not as wise as that of God. And God gives wisdom and understanding to the least of people, that in His name they make fools out of the "wise" of this world.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord Sarcasm By Paul. As part of Paul's attempts to be the main authority over the disciples in Corinth, he uses bitter sarcasm, such as, "For you put up with fools gladly, since you yourselves are wise!" (2 Cor. 11:19) In using this type of speech, Paul also plays the hypocrite and contradicts himself, since he calls them wise, yet he plainly says elsewhere they are foolish. Did Jesus speak this way to his disciples, using bitter sarcasm or double-speak? No he did not.

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 Oh, and the second thing, Yes, Jesus tells us NOT to boast, or have pride. He says that the self righeous and people calling themselves prudent and wise will be destroyed. and Again, read the WHOLE context. You give me (2 Cor. ch11) Well that chapter has paul speaking to the Jews about where thier pride and trust is. Paul is saying they have nothing to be proud of, because what THEY preach, which is circcumsision, and keeping the law, even they dont do it. And in fact...cont. next

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord " .... I also will boast." (2 Cor. 11:17-18).Paul promises that he would never boast about himself, and then admits boasting is foolish and sinful, but then goes ahead and boasts! So, for those of you who believe the doctrines of inerrancy and infallibility of the bible - is this passage inspired by the Holy Spirit and thus inerrant and infallible!?

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 Paul is saying, "you know what, if this is how you are saved, by works and keepign the law, then im better than all of you". In other words, Paul is saying if he went by THEIR rules, and proclaimed salvation with the following of the law, then Paul has somehting to be proud or boast of mor than them. And if you read the chapter, you will see thta paul is saying "i speak as a fool". In other words, he is right, but he is only proving them wrong by their own wrong ways.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord This what it says

Jesus says, "Follow Me." (Matt. 10:38)

Paul says, "Imitate Me." (1 Cor. 4:16; Phil. 3:17) whom do you follow jesus or paul?

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 Context dude, read context. Imitate me, as in, if i do what God says, and you have not heard God's voice but i have. Then i will have to tell you to imitate what i do, because i actually heard the voice, and im a 2nd hand account for you to follow. Just an example. You would have a point if Paul said imitate me, and he did something different than Jesus, but he didnt, so you have nothing.

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 Do you know hebrew? The geneology, from Adam to Noah, read their names and list them in order. And then translate them from hebrew to english. Adam means "man" and Noah means "rest". And you will see:

Man is appointed mortal sorrow, the Blessed God shall come down teaching. His death shall bring the despairing rest.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord Well there are two genealogy of jesus given in Gospels and they both are different except one. Someone is lying here. secondly.. the old testment and new testament clearly says that no one has seen God. jesus never cliamed that he is God and worship him. This was in fact the allegation from Jews that jesus Claimed that he is God and crucified him. Do you support the claim of the people who crucified jesus. I dont.

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 There are two geneologies because guess what...He has TWO parents. One geneology from Mary, and another from Joseph, making Him a descendant of the Priest line and King line. No one is lying. And, the people that crucified Him, those that did not change and repent, dont claim Him as God. In fact, they CRUCIFIED HIM BECAUSE HE SAID THAT. So, Jews are against Christ just like Muslims are agaisnt Christ.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord Firstly regarding geneology of a man who did not have any father? someone is lying here? take a guess and if you believe in blind faith then i can say nothing.

Secondly the both geneology has one common name of Joseph and does not have the name of mary. Think logically and rationally

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 He did not have an earthly father. But since Mary and Joseph were ingaged, God used that as a relation with Jesus. No one is lying. And, what? The geneologies are from both parents, what do you mean one has mary and another has joseph, thats what it says.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord of course it is lie. On one hand they say say that jesus did not have any father and on other hand they have geneology according to mathew and luke there is only one common name and that is Joseph. How can this be geneology of mary and Joseph? The name mary does not exist. Anyone with a common sense would say that it is a lie. Untill you beleiev it blindly., cos blind faith has no logic.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord Most modern day church and christins only use the name of jesus but do not follow him. they have taken the shortcut to salvation by saying that jesus is God and if you accept him your sins are pardoned as jesus has given his life for your sins. This is pagan concept. Follow what jesus has said and beleive in him.

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 What is the "shortcut"? You mean the RIGHT WAY? How is this pagan, and Christ even told us this. God bless, and if you want the truth, Ask God. He will give to those that seek Him. And mabye He will see fit that He sends one to teach you truth. I see in your comments you do not hate. And i respect that. And what we both want is truth, and life, let us get there by asking questions and answering them, instead of useless arguing. God bless.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord All abhramnic religions have a system and they all taught the same thing either it was Abraham, David, Solomon, moses, jesus or muhammed(Peace be upon them all). they taught there is one God and they all were prophets. But th early christians during the council of Nicea incorporated the pagan culture like jesus is God...picked up from Roman Gods concept. In fact there was a debate in Nicea and the other side won.

[JeshuaLivingWord]

@msiddiqui135 Well, if it was a pagan concept of Jesus being God, then you are saying that the whole OT is pagan. Including the books of Isaiah, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and so on. I can go on, and on, the deity of Christ is mentioned many times in the bible.

[msiddiqui135]

@JeshuaLivingWord Jesus taught not to boast but paul says something else

"But let each one prove his own work, and then he alone will have a boast in himself, and not in another." (Galatians 6:4)

he teaches something opposite to what Jesus taught. Do you believe in teaching of Paul of Jesus? Think and use logic

[smilegirl101]

wow this is really beautiful. i mean after all this stuff that is going around against us and evrything we still see someone who truly just sees our religion. Mashallah!

[Gabrielitodlp]

Mashallah! Why did the borther made him say so many things? Just the shahada, when we are converting we don't know arabic. :)

[dawar14]

I would have gotten up to hug this new brother of ours. Allah swt celebrates these moments when his lost creation reverts to Him. It would be proper for all brothers present at the occasion to embrace the new member of the Deen and welcome him. AllahoAkbar ! My prayers are for my new brother.

[moo7allll]

yep,,,at the Tawheed Center of Farmington Hills

[cengkih78]

wah, ur phone camera was very clear indeed..

[harkittykitty]

MashaAllah. Allah Guides whom He Wills. What a Blessed brother.

Was this at the Tawheed Center of Farmington Hills??

[al7lm1]

kamajiboy he didn't rape her ur wrong

and plz don't be sad u racist chrisitan lol

go cry

[JeshuaLivingWord]

wasnt muhammed a pedophile? and, why would you (speaking of all muslims)...if you saw me preaching Jesus as Christ, the Son of God in Isreal, Pakistan, Afganistan, or any other place, want to torture and kill me? Hmm...i think someone is insecure of their beliefs? If i preach lies, then i am a liar, and if i am a liar, what i say should not be true, and come to pass. BUT, the reason christians are killed is becasue others are scared of Him, and who He uses, so the best thing is to shut them up.

[JeshuaLivingWord]

John 16

1These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. 2They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

Mathew 24:9

Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

if i am lying, test me in the scriptures, God willing.

[al7lm1]

الامريكي فيه ميزه

اذا اسلم الامريكي يسلم عن قلب ومستعد يقدم روحه تضحيه للدين

اما الافريقي والفبيني الفلوس تلعب فيهم ويغيرون حتى اسمائهم بس ع شان الفلوس

[asim231]

ALLAH AKBAR :))) MASHALLAH

[Kuwaitiankiller]

alhmdulla

[dewview]

allahu akbar

allhumma strengthen his heart and keep him in the right straight path .