That wasn't an Own, she had a monster hand Hellmuth had an Ace high. Hellmuth is a big pussy sore loser anyway, I can't stand watching him play, noone likes him he's a little bitch whenever he loses. The check bet on the flop was good, but I would've bet smaller on the turn because you know you have the hand won to make some off it, then kill him at the end with a fold.
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annie dukes is such fucking white trash...and phil helmuth is a retard...being good at poker is like being good at stealing a gumball or being good at darts...
real cracker shit...how about you win ya poker money and i hang out in the hallway knock ya teeth into your nose at take those winning
THose making deragatory comments about Annie? HOw Sad. SO you're intimidated by strong, confident women? Fine. But really, grow up. Don't spew your stupidity in public.
@LyleLe well but this hand was unplayable, at least there was no way she could get money out of that: with the flopped full what u wanna do? if u bet, phil folds, if u check he knows u hit smth and fold the next time u bet. only thing she could do was hope he hits smth on the turn, then betting and letting him raise to trap him but he didnt hit the turn so theres virtually nothin she could do
by raising less? after the pre-flop raise (at which point it wasn't clear who was winning), what did Duke do to own Phil? Nothing. She tried check-raise--Phil didn't fall for it. She tried raise--Phil still didn't fall for it. I don't see what's the "ownage" here other than having better cards, lol.
When I read the title, I thought she tricked him into a bluff or something.
@SkrPchr3 i never wrote the word "own", although i'm not a fan of not c-betting that flop, there's no way she could have gotten more out of phil post-flop really, what do you mean by raising less? smaller pf raise? what's the point?
she raised 150k on the turn and scared off Phil. You didn't use the word "own," but your response was to this comment: "I fail to see how that's an own? He made a good fold and she got very little value out of a made hand."
It is a good fold (not a difficult one, but a good one, ie: the correct decision). Certainly wasn't a bad fold. And certainly it wasn't an "ownage." So I don't see anything wrong with that comment.
Instead of asking "How could Annie won more?" You should ask "How could Annie have won LESS? (after the pre-flop raise)." After the flop, the only way she could have played worse is to fold. Anyone in her position would have ended up no worse than her.
The situation I see is this: Annie got the best hand, she tried to trick Phil twice but it didn't work. Where is the "owning" move that you see?
Some said that they fail to see how this was ownage, and you seemed to disagree.
And yes, she tried to trick Phil twice. Surely, that check on the flop is not just a check (you really think she didn't want Phil to raise?). That was a check-RAISE attempt (which Phil didn't fall for). Then she tried directly raising, and that didn't work either.
Do you have anything else to respond to other than the terminology? lol...You took the time to respond, but went off on a tangent instead of responding to the main point?
And speaking of terminology: If that's not a raise, then what is a raise? And secondly, what is a RE-raise? (good luck sorting that out)
Uh, how exactly did she own him? I see a reckless raise on pocket sixes (not that great a pre-flop hand, as the favorite barely favored her), Phil calling with a marginal hand, Phil gets nothing on the river, she does, she makes an obvious slow play attempt which he reads and he makes a good fold.
She got the better hand, he played the better poker in that round.
Agree that video description is incorrect cos phil got away cheap, but man raising with 66 heads up isnt reckless its standard, and Ace9 suited is NOT a marginal hand its quite a strong hand. Any ace or pocket pair are strong holdings heads up.
I don't agree, but perhaps it's just more to my style, or perhaps just more to my luck with playing hands like that. There are FAR too many overs and outs for phil to beat pocket sixes, but she didn't care, she was going to play them like she had rockets or die trying apparently.
Even on the flop, the double king could have been very dangerous had phil been sitting on a K6 KK or K10. I think he made a real mistake in showing his frustration, but his read was correct, and he played far better.
Are you serious? You have 66 heads up on a flop of 6 K K 10 - And your afraid of K 10 KK K6, thats rediculous man, If your not ready to get all your chips in there, thats scared poker !
Put it this way, would you raise someone $80k of your money showing a low pair like pocket sixes preflop?
I'm speaking from relative terms. Yes, her success and capital base allow her a little more freedom with her decisions, and in heads up play you can play hands like that, but you're certainly not riding the nuts on pocket sixes.
Tight play is also a staple of people who want to see the final table. Or, as Phil puts it, you can go all in, and if you don't double up, take the afternoon off.
i am very very sure this not $80k of her own money. this is the tournament of champions from a few years back...these are "tounament chips" and 1st place get a million, 2nd place gets nothing...
how are you saying annie is playing the 6,6 like she has the nuts...preflop raise is very standard with a small pocket pair since you don't want a hand like j,2 to get a free look at the flop...when she flops almost the nuts you have to take that as the nuts since it is very unlikely she is beat...i would want to know what you would do? you have 6,6 blind are 15/30k your stack is 500k...i will call or raise either plays is ok raise is prefered...did you think this is a cash game?
i am just wondering if you think this is a cash game? this is a tournament.....since the blinds are never mentioned or stack sizes you can't say she is raising too much...it was probably a standard 3x-4x raise of the big blind...annie raise is correct since if hellmuth has a hand like j,2 or even a hand like 10,7 he is likely to fold...a call is an ok play a fold is not really an option...after the flop annie is going to commit her whole stack to the pot there is noway she is getting away
I would LOVE to play poker with Annie Duke, but NOT Phil Hellmuth, good player but a BAD BEAT!
HSimon1981 1 month ago
She have a very good good Poker face
mutasim0hourani 6 months ago
Don't really care for Annie's bet sizing there and if anyone made a good play, it was Phil in that spot for making a correct fold.
stinky472 8 months ago
@CnpuHTeP no shes not dude. shes 45 yrs old
1989jnicks 9 months ago
That wasn't an Own, she had a monster hand Hellmuth had an Ace high. Hellmuth is a big pussy sore loser anyway, I can't stand watching him play, noone likes him he's a little bitch whenever he loses. The check bet on the flop was good, but I would've bet smaller on the turn because you know you have the hand won to make some off it, then kill him at the end with a fold.
vvette917 1 year ago
if i was her.. i would have checked on the turn, let phil do the betting..
ryanneglect 1 year ago
haha amazing and i never even watched! Talent! 10/10/10 you know where to find me!
drewcessford 1 year ago
"ah ah we gettin a lil hamlet from phil and an theres not a whole lot going on here his got nothing" lol
ghas 1 year ago
whos that cunt slut
hellmuth rules
agincourts 1 year ago 2
who won the tourny?
PublicICON 1 year ago
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annie dukes is such fucking white trash...and phil helmuth is a retard...being good at poker is like being good at stealing a gumball or being good at darts...
real cracker shit...how about you win ya poker money and i hang out in the hallway knock ya teeth into your nose at take those winning
coka5841 2 years ago
i would let annie duke to suck my penis!
candiadude123 2 years ago
annie duke is hot
Murphy4709 2 years ago
How does she own. She just had a nice hand, and phil folded...so no.....she did not own! I mean wtf is with this title, i mean..wtf.........why?
crazyfoolo117 2 years ago 4
lol at first born comment
TheNordon 2 years ago
Actually, if you know anything about poker, Phil Hellmuth owned her with his lay down.
halneufmille 2 years ago 4
Why do people use the word 'own' like that. He made a lay down that any sane person would make.
acies92 2 years ago 3
hahaha
PokerMashine 2 years ago
hellmuth is such a goofy ass LOL anyone see him on Cheap Seats?
SolidSnakeRules 2 years ago
milf ;D
wiseguy1989xx 2 years ago 4
Btw the play from both players in this hand was standard, with the exception of phil just limping preflop. neither player 'owns' the other here.
SocrTrump 2 years ago 3
good fold if anything heads up
MrAdam20z 2 years ago
oh my god, i find her soooo hot
KurtCobainof21 2 years ago 4
So do i she's so attractive
jpjames1 2 years ago 2
I would love to have sex with Annie Duke.
While punching Hellmuth in the face.
PhUTube4Evah 2 years ago 8
@PhUTube4Evah dude, she's like 60 yrs old
CnpuHTeP 10 months ago
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Annie duke is ahorrible bitch. Howard letterer is a smart nit - better suited to limit hold em.
3richardwilliams 2 years ago
look at that impeccable concentration by Hellmuth. he had to take the glasses off again at 1:34 to make that clever fold
fl0ww0lf 2 years ago
THose making deragatory comments about Annie? HOw Sad. SO you're intimidated by strong, confident women? Fine. But really, grow up. Don't spew your stupidity in public.
Yewdale08 2 years ago
That was a owned???? its more like Phil owned her... He made the more admirable move.
xEternalx 2 years ago 5
exactly what i was gonna say. well said.
Mr81points 2 years ago 2
lol thank s
xEternalx 2 years ago
I fail to see how that's an own? He made a good fold and she got very little value out of a made hand.
LyleLe 3 years ago 27
@LyleLe well but this hand was unplayable, at least there was no way she could get money out of that: with the flopped full what u wanna do? if u bet, phil folds, if u check he knows u hit smth and fold the next time u bet. only thing she could do was hope he hits smth on the turn, then betting and letting him raise to trap him but he didnt hit the turn so theres virtually nothin she could do
Devilfish6666 1 year ago
@Devilfish6666 I agree with you, but how does that justify an "owning" at all? The title of the video is petty.
LyleLe 1 year ago
@LyleLe yeah thats right
Devilfish6666 1 year ago
@LyleLe
qft
the guy who posted thsi video is an idiot
skaloon 1 year ago
@LyleLe how is that a good fold, he had nothing, and please tell me how annie could have won anything more there
fabio05cannavaro 1 year ago
@fabio05cannavaro
by raising less? after the pre-flop raise (at which point it wasn't clear who was winning), what did Duke do to own Phil? Nothing. She tried check-raise--Phil didn't fall for it. She tried raise--Phil still didn't fall for it. I don't see what's the "ownage" here other than having better cards, lol.
When I read the title, I thought she tricked him into a bluff or something.
SkrPchr3 1 year ago
@SkrPchr3 i never wrote the word "own", although i'm not a fan of not c-betting that flop, there's no way she could have gotten more out of phil post-flop really, what do you mean by raising less? smaller pf raise? what's the point?
fabio05cannavaro 1 year ago
@fabio05cannavaro
she raised 150k on the turn and scared off Phil. You didn't use the word "own," but your response was to this comment: "I fail to see how that's an own? He made a good fold and she got very little value out of a made hand."
It is a good fold (not a difficult one, but a good one, ie: the correct decision). Certainly wasn't a bad fold. And certainly it wasn't an "ownage." So I don't see anything wrong with that comment.
SkrPchr3 1 year ago
@fabio05cannavaro
Instead of asking "How could Annie won more?" You should ask "How could Annie have won LESS? (after the pre-flop raise)." After the flop, the only way she could have played worse is to fold. Anyone in her position would have ended up no worse than her.
The situation I see is this: Annie got the best hand, she tried to trick Phil twice but it didn't work. Where is the "owning" move that you see?
SkrPchr3 1 year ago
@SkrPchr3 i'm sorry did i ever write the word "own"?
tried to trick phil twice?
she only checked the flop, which i don't really like, but still...
fabio05cannavaro 1 year ago
@fabio05cannavaro
Some said that they fail to see how this was ownage, and you seemed to disagree.
And yes, she tried to trick Phil twice. Surely, that check on the flop is not just a check (you really think she didn't want Phil to raise?). That was a check-RAISE attempt (which Phil didn't fall for). Then she tried directly raising, and that didn't work either.
SkrPchr3 1 year ago
@SkrPchr3 by the way that's called betting, not raising....
fabio05cannavaro 1 year ago
@fabio05cannavaro
Do you have anything else to respond to other than the terminology? lol...You took the time to respond, but went off on a tangent instead of responding to the main point?
And speaking of terminology: If that's not a raise, then what is a raise? And secondly, what is a RE-raise? (good luck sorting that out)
SkrPchr3 1 year ago
@LyleLe how is it a good fold?
alexnzxVersion2 9 months ago
@alexnzxVersion2 that's not the correct question, sir
MrChampManager 8 months ago
stand up phil.. fucking donk cunt
aliasmc 3 years ago
Uh, how exactly did she own him? I see a reckless raise on pocket sixes (not that great a pre-flop hand, as the favorite barely favored her), Phil calling with a marginal hand, Phil gets nothing on the river, she does, she makes an obvious slow play attempt which he reads and he makes a good fold.
She got the better hand, he played the better poker in that round.
Soulcorruptr 3 years ago
Gets nothing on the flop rather.
Soulcorruptr 3 years ago
Agree that video description is incorrect cos phil got away cheap, but man raising with 66 heads up isnt reckless its standard, and Ace9 suited is NOT a marginal hand its quite a strong hand. Any ace or pocket pair are strong holdings heads up.
fraddstar 2 years ago 2
I don't agree, but perhaps it's just more to my style, or perhaps just more to my luck with playing hands like that. There are FAR too many overs and outs for phil to beat pocket sixes, but she didn't care, she was going to play them like she had rockets or die trying apparently.
Even on the flop, the double king could have been very dangerous had phil been sitting on a K6 KK or K10. I think he made a real mistake in showing his frustration, but his read was correct, and he played far better.
Soulcorruptr 2 years ago
Are you serious? You have 66 heads up on a flop of 6 K K 10 - And your afraid of K 10 KK K6, thats rediculous man, If your not ready to get all your chips in there, thats scared poker !
fraddstar 2 years ago 2
soul..... you are completely wrong...there are alot of ways of playing winning poker and what you said is surely not it...
hellasow 2 years ago
Put it this way, would you raise someone $80k of your money showing a low pair like pocket sixes preflop?
I'm speaking from relative terms. Yes, her success and capital base allow her a little more freedom with her decisions, and in heads up play you can play hands like that, but you're certainly not riding the nuts on pocket sixes.
Tight play is also a staple of people who want to see the final table. Or, as Phil puts it, you can go all in, and if you don't double up, take the afternoon off.
Soulcorruptr 2 years ago
i am very very sure this not $80k of her own money. this is the tournament of champions from a few years back...these are "tounament chips" and 1st place get a million, 2nd place gets nothing...
hellasow 2 years ago
how are you saying annie is playing the 6,6 like she has the nuts...preflop raise is very standard with a small pocket pair since you don't want a hand like j,2 to get a free look at the flop...when she flops almost the nuts you have to take that as the nuts since it is very unlikely she is beat...i would want to know what you would do? you have 6,6 blind are 15/30k your stack is 500k...i will call or raise either plays is ok raise is prefered...did you think this is a cash game?
hellasow 2 years ago
i am just wondering if you think this is a cash game? this is a tournament.....since the blinds are never mentioned or stack sizes you can't say she is raising too much...it was probably a standard 3x-4x raise of the big blind...annie raise is correct since if hellmuth has a hand like j,2 or even a hand like 10,7 he is likely to fold...a call is an ok play a fold is not really an option...after the flop annie is going to commit her whole stack to the pot there is noway she is getting away
hellasow 2 years ago
Would I raise it to 3.666 big blinds preflop with a great heads up hand like wired 6s? um.. of course??
would I treat 66 like the nuts if the flop comes KK6? um... of course?
"tight play is a a staple of people who want to see the final table"
-yea turns out this is heads up so... unless they have a one-handed final table. they are already there.
passive play is an awful strategy in heads-up poker
SocrTrump 2 years ago 2
Pocket 6s are not a marginal hand in heads up. Neither is A-9.
lChupacabra 2 years ago