(Part2)James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy, said the city was completely fallen into a state of anarchy by Chinese soldiers. The Chinese soldiers in holy terror came to be out of control and began looting and killing. Chinese soldiers in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes, in a number of incidents, killed civilians to obtain their clothing. The Nanking Massacre was caused by them.
(Part1)Actually Chinese soldiers escaped from the Nanking wall. That's why we can see so many ropes which were suspended from the top of the Nanking wall to ground for escaping from the battle against the Japanese troops in documentary videos. Chinese soldiers were bandits, so they committed many crimes during the war.
(Part2)Professor Bunyu Ko, a controversial Taiwanese-born historian, estimates that throughout the Sino-Japanese war the victims killed by such Chinese supervisory units were more than those killed by the Japanese military. He states that in Nanking also, the Chinese supervisory unit killed many Chinese soldiers who tried to flee from the battle. The war casualties in Westerners reports included such Chinese soldiers who had been killed by the Chinese.
(Part1)During the battle of Nanking, Chinese soldiers were not only killed by the Japanese military, but also killed by a Chinese supervisory unit, who were Chinese soldiers waiting behind to kill their fellow soldiers trying to flee from the battlefield. The American or Japanese military never had such units; however, the Chinese military had such a unit in every battle to kill their fleeing soldiers.
I know the definition of Nanking Massacre by the Chinese government too well. I'm asking whether you support it or not.
Whitewashing the atrocities they did before 1945? What's that? I believe the IJA never did any atrocities intentionally. They were always the results of desperate struggles to win the war against the Western powers.
Looted, burned, raped and killed civilians? That's what Chinese soldiers did to their own people down through history. After the Japanese troops entered Nanking, citizens began to return their homes.
That's not answer. I'm asking what we are whitewashing for. What war crimes did we commit? Killing innocent civilians is one thing, and killing POWs or guerrillas is another. Tell me which you are blaming.
松崗環's book is not available in Japanese language and I found only Chinese websites about her except one. So I have no idea as to what she's saying. She must be a very good friend of China and Chinese.
I know why you can't answer my question. If you answered, you'd become one of those Nanking Massacre deniers. That's the reason.
@iganinja375 She is a Japanese who admits the truth of history, and she has been to Nanking many times in order to investigate and spoken with those survivors since 80s.
I don't want to show you evidences on Nanking Massacre any more here because it's off-topic here. Before you bring up another Nanking topic, find this forum post:
"A Nanking Massacre is yet another big allegation against the Japanese"
This is post #160 (bottom) on the forum page. You can find more detailed population movements in Nanking there.
(Part6)I want to say Chinese people should look at history as a mirror. It means that China should not forget her brutal actions against Tibet and Uighur.
(Part5)In all cases, except for its support of North Vietnam war against South Vietnam, China has used force preemptively. China attacked the opponent first after careful preparation, whereas the opponent suffered from a surprise attack. So, why has China been teaching such old Japan’s crime, which is not true, to their children? Chinese war crimes have still continued.
(Part4)A recent survey of world public opinion from 2005 to 2007 found that Japan is the country most widely viewed as having a positive influence, which is helped by the fact that Japan has never used military power as a means for settling international conflicts after 1945. Since the People's Republic of China was established in 1949, the frequency of its use of military forces reaches the double digits. On average, China has used military power for several years.
(Part3)However, since this period Japan and China have changed considerably. Today, China is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party and Japan democracy. While history should not be forgotten, we must also judge a country by its current actions.
(Part2)Chinese government has hidden their brutal war history to their citizens. If Chinese people had known what China had done in Tibet, they could not accuse Japan with a one track mind. In fact, Chinese leaders always say to Japanese leaders that Japan should look at history as a mirror. It means that Japan should not forget her brutal actions against China during the Sino-Japanese conflict in the late 1930s and the beginning of the 1940s.
(Part1)Some Chinese people have claimed that Japan always wants to fight with another country. Also they are accusing the Japanese dogs needed to be as brutal and cruel as possible to win the war. Some Chinese are taught exaggerated Japan’s war crimes, for instance, the Nanking Massacre must have been created by China for their propaganda, and also there is no conclusive evidence about that. Why does China continually teach wrong history to school kids?
Some foreigners wrote the Japanese rape stories in documents during the war. However, these cases were what these Westerners heard about from the Chinese. After Minnie Vautrin wrote it, Chinese officers were caught by police for rape crimes. This story was written in an article of the New York Times on January 4, 1938. After they were caught, conspicuous cases of rape, looting and other atrocities did not take place. Therefore, these crimes were definitely caused by the Chinese.
@iganinja375 Avoid your question? LOL... I don't define what "Nanking Massacre" is. Nanking Massace had been defined by whole world, even in Japan. Only the right wing Japanese like you are trying to whitewash the Japanese war crimes history. That's all.
@iganinja375 Who did not answer whom? I have shown you the Japanese soldiers' diaries specifying "Nanking Massacre". What is your answer? "seem to..."? Didn't I ask you to find yourself a better excuse? Where is your "better excuse"? Where is your answer?
Japan is horrible from going to china just to rape? Wtf these japs a crazy to rape games to more rape, all Japan does is rape rape rape 24/7 trust me on this and undertakerRach is a lying jap monkey that just want to defend his raping country to think that he was the one that was born from a good country
How old are you ? It seems to me that you can't grasp the implication of my answers. You continue to ask me to explicitly answer your questions.
If you feel that the Japanese were wrongly accused by the International Tribunal. You and those that feel the same you do should appeal the decision and restore your honors.
So if I grasped your implication correctly, I may conclude that you admit the so-called "Nanking Massacre" as claimed by the CCP didn't exist. And that means no other kind of Nanking Massacre existed either. Ok?
As for the International Tribunal, the Japanese government already declared that they accepted the punishments, but not the judgements, because of the dubious nature of the Tribunal.
@iganinja375 No you didn't grasp her implication correctly.In fact you completely mis interpreted what was said.Take your case to the highest court in the UN,anywhere you like.You won't because you bastards don't have a leg to stand on, the evidence against jap brutality and cruelty is credible,compelling and overwhelming.There were Military Tribunals established elsewhere in the Pacific and Asia. Strangely,they all came to similar conclusions.Nothing dubious about the judgements or punishments.
Let's talk about Nanking. You say I completely misinterpreted what was implied in another person's comments. If so, what is your interpretation? Do you mean you support the CCP's official claim for 300,000 innocent civilians as the victims? Or are you meaning any other possibilities? Let me hear your interpretation.
@iganinja375 --- All along, I pointed you to videos that talked about the atrocities even from the Japanese soldiers themselves and to the International Tribunal court proceedings. The implication was that I believe wholeheartedly, along with thousands of victims in China, Korea, Phillipines, Vietnam and the millions of soldiers around the world who fought in these wars. I hope I am clear so don't keep asking me who are the victims.
@iganinja375 No trouble, from my previous reponses I think my view is really clear.
BUT here it is again, If a country invades another country for the purpose of occupation, then it is an act of aggression regardless of whether the casaulties are civilians or the military soldiers who are defending their country. If the civilians are victimized then it would be considered war crime.
What is your view my friend and I hope you'd extend the same courtesy ? ? ?
No, you seem to be in trouble. Otherwise, why do you avoid answering my question? (1) or (1) and (2). It's so simple. Why avoid?
BTW, you say the Japanese invaded another country (China and Korea to your belief). But we actually invaded neither. As for China, we had absolutely no intention of invading China. It was China that initiated the Sino-Japanese War by attacking our settlement, among others, in Shanghai. We just responded to it. Here's an article from the NYT:
@iganinja375 It did not start with ww2, it started back when China was invaded by the British around the late 19th century during the opium wars. Since then the other 7 nations joined in and tried to divide up China and is called "The 8 Nation Alliance" and Japan is one of them. WW2 just brought an end to it all.
@iganinja375 The governments of Japan and Germany were the only two that were charged with war crimes and found guilty by the international tribunal. I think that speaks for itself.
I asked you for a simple answer to my question instead of lengthy blabs. You never seem to want to answer my question directly. Why? It seems so much trouble to just answer who were the victims.
Can I conclude you have denied the "Nanking Massacre" by yourself? No prosecutor would fall silent when he was asked who were the victims of the crime he was prosecuting for. Right?
@iganinja375 Nanking Massacre is only one of many war crimes Japanese did before the end of ww2, even Japanese soldiers have recorded Nanking Massacre incident in their diaries.
The Japanese soldiers' diaries seem to just refer to the killing of guerrillas and POWs, not innocent civilians. Why ONLY do we have to get blamed for the killing of guerrillas and POWs? The Americans didn't take Japanese POWs as a rule unless they needed someone to interrogate. Do you call the killing of POWs the "Nanking Massacre"? Isn't the definition of Nanking Massacre a mass murder of 300,000 innocent civilians?
At least the CCP's official claim is this. They put up a sign board bearing the number "300,000" at the facade of the Nanking Memorial Hall. Are you blaming us for something different from the CCP's official claim?
@ec97531 If I didn't come across this guy on youtube myself, I would never believe somebody like him/her existed. It's an eye opener for me and so unreal.
@ec97531 --- Just like the Nazis denying the Holocaust. The Nazis and the Japs did all these killings and rapings in every country that they TRYING to invade. So the evidences are overwhelming. My parents are in their 80s and so they were in their late teen back then and told me stories about this.
Why do I have to look up somebody's diaries? I listed the possible victims of massacre on 4 selections from (1) to (4). You can just pick 1 or 2 numbers from the list. Why not?
Are you afraid of getting sent to a concentration camp when you don't choose "300,000 innocent civilians" which is the official definition by the CCP?
@iganinja375 You have not answered any of my questions. Why should I answer your's? In fact, I asked you first.
Here is another question, How come so many Japanese people whitewash their war crimes history? Indeed Nanking Massacre is only one of many atrocities Japanese Imperialist did.
My first question on this thread was "who do you think were the victims of Nanking Massacre?". And I showed you a list of 4 selections to choose from. But nobody, including you, have answered this question yet, and instead, asked irrelevant questions to avoid answering my question. You are again doing this. You don't want to answer my question asking if you support the CCP's definition of N.M., do you? Pls answer my simple question.
@iganinja375 Multiple choice question? Interesting. According to Chinese government's estimation, there are approximately 300,000 Chinese people were killed by Japanese military during the Nanking Massacre.
Btw, How old are you? Have you finished elementary school yet? Multiple Choice question? Naive, LOL
As for whitewashing, you are just like asking me why I committed some crime when I'm saying I haven't committed any crime. It's natural I can't answer your question about why. Let's make the premise clear. Answer me what crimes you are saying we committed. Is it what the CCP claims, or what the Japanese soldiers wrote in their diaries, or anything else? Let's make it clear first.
BTW, you brought up the IMTFE (Tokyo Trial) to condemn our "war crimes." But did you know that the Dutch and British attempted a second invasion into Indonesia (July 1947) right in the middle of the Tokyo Trial (May 1946 to Nov. 1948)? Although the British gave it up soon facing fierce resistance by the Indonesian, the Dutch persisted their way and killed over 800,000 Indonesian people and 1,000 Japanese volunteer soldiers in the battles.
Which do you think is the true war criminals? And you see how bogus the Tokyo Trial was. It was just an unlawful revenge to the loser by the victor of the war. You're too ignorant.
@iganinja375 oh yeah, maybe the Japanese were the victims here. Hmmmmm, I think the US soldiers went over to Japan and forced the Japanese soldiers at gun point to fly over to US and bombed Pearl Harbor.
@iganinja375 Actually, according to the Japanese warriors's code of honors that if they failed their mission, they would kill themselves. BUT they didnot do it, didn't they.
Hallett Abend, NYT correspondent (August 31, 1937):
...One foreign official said, "concerning the Shanghai hostilities the records will justify only one decision. The Japanese did not want a repetition of the fighting here and exhibited forbearance and patience and did everything possible to avoid aggravating the situation. But they were literally pushed into the clash by the Chinese, who seemed intent on involving the foreign area and foreign interests in this clash."
As for Korea, annexation was initially proposed from the Korean side (JoongAng Ilbo, Aug. 27, 2001). Here is a message from Pak Jeong-hui, former President of Korea:
"Annexation was our choice. It isn't that Japan invaded our land. It was our forefathers' decision to admit annexation. If we had chosen Quing (清), we would have seen a bigger turmoil as Quing fell very soon.
"If we had chosen Imperial Russia, the whole peninsula would have been turned into a communist state as Imperial Russia also died out very soon. The entire peninsula, both north and south, would have been communized in the end. I wouldn't say that Japan was the best option. But we had to make our choice anyway, and I think Japan was the only option left to us."
What do you think? If you blame us, say what crime we committed. Otherwise you're deemed making a false charge.
@iganinja375 I knew you would take this stand and that was why I asked you to Google for the answers. WW2 is not that far back, so some people that experienced ww2 are still alive today. Also cameras were invented and had captured these atrocities.
Today, I don't think the Chinese, Koreans and the Filipinos hold the contemporary Japanese responsible for these atrocities BUT to deny these when so much evidences existed is very humiliating to those endured these atrocities.
@iganinja375 I'm just a civilian who learned from history so I won't go into the details of the all these atrocities. BUT if you Google "Tokyo War Crimes Tribunal", you will find the full details of the entire court proceedings.
Did you know the Japanese carried out air raids on the Nanking city from August through December, 1937, before the Japanese land troops started attacking the city? The Chinese never mention this fact, somehow....
You want evidence...you jap lying motherfuckers? You can start here....anyone gullible enough to accept the "jap" version of events need only refer to the International Military Tribunal for the Far East,Judgements - Chapters 1 - 10, pages 1- 1211. These proceedings were launched by the Allies including the USA, China, UK, USSR, Australia, Canada,France,The Netherlands, NZ, India and The Phillipines.
So to all you lying jap revisionist PIGs....SUCK SHIT.
(Part5)His troops executed between 3,000 and 4,000 people. Chen Yi was later quoted by TIME magazine in April 7, 1947 as saying: "It took the Japs 51 years to dominate this island. I expect to take about five years to re-educate the people so they will be happier with Chinese administration." This fact shows they were mind controlled by the Chinese government? The Nanking Massacre was a fake story. In fact, Chinese school kids have learned anti-Japanese education.
(Part4)In a number of incidents, killed civilians to obtain their clothing in Nanking city in 1937 before the Japanese troops entered to the Nanking castle. James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy. Go back to the 228 massacre story, Chen Yi, the ROC authorities, had jailed or killed all the leading Taiwanese organizers he could identify and catch.
(Part3)There were instances of beheadings and mutilation of bodies, and women were raped.h This is the Chinese inherent characteristics. The Nanking Massacre might have been have caused by KMT soldiers. In fact, R.J Rummel claims that Chinese peasants often had no less to fear from their own soldiers than they did from the Japanese. Moreover, KMT soldiers in the Nanking castle in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes.
(Part2)Estimates of the number of deaths vary from ten thousand to thirty thousand or more. According to the New York Times on March 29, 1947, an American said, gTroops from China arrived at Taiwan on March 7 and indulged in three days of indiscriminate killing and looting. For a time everyone seen on the streets was shot at, homes were broken into and occupants killed. In the poorer sections the streets were said to have been littered with dead.
(Part1)The 228 Massacre was an anti-government uprising in Taiwan that began on February 27, 1947 and was violently suppressed by the Kuomintang (KMT) government. Before the 228 massacre was broke out, the mood of the crowd, which had already been harboring many feelings of frustration from KMT rule, reached breaking point. The KMT troops who came from mainland China were highly undisciplined, looting, stealing, and contributing to the overall breakdown of infrastructure and public services.
JAPAN IS CRIME NATION. JAPAN DENY THE FACTS. THEY MAKE HISTORY DISTORTION. JAPAN LIKE RAPING WOMEN. THEY WHY THERE IS RAPE CULTRUE IN JAPAN. SEARCH "RAPE GAME IN JAPAN, CNN REPORT"
Banzai bitch, How about we quit whining about unproven japanese "attricoties" and start bringing up dresden, hiroshima, bromberg, nagasaki, tokyo, hamburg and schwinefurt to the picture?
I can't believe what China said. Even the official conference about the Nanking Massacre research, Chinese historians showed their collections as evidence of the massacre. The photographs, which Chinese showed are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing
China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence. Obviously what China says is pure fiction! Demonstration of this story by the Chinese government is libel and slander. It is natural that Japanese raising an objection.
@undertakerRach Wtf are you talking about? My grandpa was an Indonesian in one of you're fucking Jap camps, he saw things who were way beyond evil.. you Japanese are the fucking shit of the earth trying to hide you're criminal past..
@undertakerRach He doesn't need to know PETA. What he does know is that your a lying piece of jap revisionist shit! Every single clip detailing the atrocities,murder,torture and rape committed by the japs is denied by you..every one of them.You've already been exposed as a liar who attempts to distort history by refusing to accept the magnitude of the crimes committed against the peoples of Asia and the Pacific by the japs... so fuck off!
"Mr. Drea admits to some disappointment that smoking guns on Japanese war crimes did not turn up, especially when compared with documents on Nazi crimes that have led to new conclusions on what American officials knew about the Holocaust.
'To be honest, I'd hoped we'd find something,' Mr. Drea says.
'That's the historian's dream: fresh information that illuminates a dark problem. It just wasn't there.'"
You can find more details here:
"Release of Archives Helps Fill Gap in Files on Wartime"
The U.S. National Archives (Maryland) disclosed some 100,000 pages of classified documents regarding the germ researches conducted by the former Japanese military in Manchuria. Some Chinese specialists were involved in the translation and analyses of Japanese materials as the members of the project team (The Sankei, January 18, 2007).
(Part2)Smythe investigated the population with the help of many Chinese staffs on February 1938. He wrote a report which shows the population of Nanking was 250,000 or 270,000 as of the end of March 1938. Furthermore, The Nanking City Administrative Office of the Nanking Restoration Government, which was established on March 28, 1938, registered 277,000 inhabitants. Japanese soldiers killed 300,000 Chinese people in Nanking city? I don't want to hear Chinese people stories which they hope.
(Part1)John Rabe, the Safety Zone Committee (TSZC) member, wrote in his diary in Dec 10, when the Nanking battle began, the Nanking population was 200,000. TSZC described in the Document No.9 dated in Dec 17, "On the 13th when the Japanese entered the city, we had nearly all the civilian population in the Safety Zone, so the number 200,000 is no doubt. TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000.
(Part2)If there had been slaughter in Nanking of a magnitude so great (300,000 civilian victims) as to prompt the description “holocaust of the century,” there is not the slightest chance that he would have been silent on the matter.
■(Part1)Chinese Communist Party Chairman Mao Zedong never referred to a massacre in Nanking. He made exactly one mention of the Battle of Nanking during a lecture delivered at Yan’an six months after the conflict, reproduced in On Protracted War. Chairman Mao criticized the Japanese for failing to annihilate Chinese troops after having surrounded them.
How the fuck innocent people deserve it? American killed so many innocent people from Iraq.. do you think that Iraq has right to drop atomic bomb in Us?
Chengda85 :We must learn from past and not follow suit. China has suffered so much from Japanese. But in turn, China treats Tibet as they were treated. It goes on. China invested Billions in Tibet, not given. For each one dollars, they made thousands from Tibet. Free education if only Chinese is learnt. Tibetans are fighting in their country, not invading China as you said, You want to know about Tibet, be open and check other news besides Chinas only state run news. Sorry, you are part of it.
@kyagpa (Part1)Since the revolt against Chinese rule in Tibet that began in 1956 and through the end of the Cultural Revolution in 1976, an estimated 1,200,000 Tibetans were killed and more than 6,000 religious sites were destroyed. In 1959, 1960, 1964, and 1997 the International Commission of Jurists examined Chinese policy in Tibet, violations of human rights in Tibet, and the position of Tibet in international law.
ccp has more than 300000 internet propaganda dogs, its famous things (its call 五毛党 or 50cent army, etc), ccp`s more than 300000 guy is working everyday 24hours everywhere internet, they deceive their chinks and world people too, they are making fake comment everywhere internet, even youtube too, those ccp`s propaganda dog is try to operate pablic opinion, i can see so many those dogs in youtube, if you go any chinks video, most of chinks commentator is just one of 300000
(Part2)Moreover, China suborned some foreigners to write the false story to newspaper articles and a book. Chinese victims couldn’t receive any medical treatment for they had no money. Chiang Kai-shek said, “You can get medical treatment for free in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you.” That’s why; poor Chinese claimed “we were hurt by Japanese. This is one of the crimes malicious slanders.
(Part1)People can’t find any conclusive evidence of the Nanking Massacre. The Nanking population was increased after Japan controlled the city. Many witnesses confessed they had not watched any crime scenes in Nanking later. Chinese government reported the documents writing the number of dead bodies was 20,000, which number was the same number of Chinese soldiers’ dead bodies. Also China fabricated 143 pictures of the Nanking Massacre.
"Shiroishi" or "Shiraishi" is a typical Burakumin surname from Tottori area, originally from Korean peninsula and related to Shilla. We all know every Shiraishi behaves bad.
@serbetli100 actually, "ishii" is his surname and "shiro" is his first name. OMGSH how can you say that you're japanese when you didn't even know that???? i'm not even one and i knew that
@keynesac the immigrants that moved to japan was there wayyyyyyy back when the chinese ethnicity or china didn't exist. they're not equal ethnically but only racially
I don't know anything about Japan do such a thing to Chinese, and I don't believe it! Japanese are nice people, they are gentle, they are educated, they have long historic culture. and all those evidence that Chinese showing to the world is not real, a lot of them are Made in China!
but I know Chinese genocide to Uyghurs in East Turkistan, Chinese genocide in Tibet! I don't understand, why Chinese people doesn't feel shame!? they done and doing such a thing to other, but blaming Japanese?!
@UGTurk you're correct. we only won battles in china and defeated china! there was no "systematic" genocide on civilians! perhaps there was side-effect, but that's it
@UGTurk idiot, the chinese gives billions of dollars to tibet everyyear as aid, gives tibetan children FREE EDUCATION (in tibetan language!) all the way to college! the religious items used by religious leaders of tibet were given to them as gifts hundreds of years ago and they are still wearing them today. I've seen videos of armed tibetans attacking people and destroying buildings and cars but the western media never shows them and lies that china is brutalizing tibet, learn to think!
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(Part2)James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy, said the city was completely fallen into a state of anarchy by Chinese soldiers. The Chinese soldiers in holy terror came to be out of control and began looting and killing. Chinese soldiers in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes, in a number of incidents, killed civilians to obtain their clothing. The Nanking Massacre was caused by them.
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(Part1)Actually Chinese soldiers escaped from the Nanking wall. That's why we can see so many ropes which were suspended from the top of the Nanking wall to ground for escaping from the battle against the Japanese troops in documentary videos. Chinese soldiers were bandits, so they committed many crimes during the war.
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Friends,
Up with hundred of millions of evil Anglos trap in eternal hell.
Down with evil Anglos and their 500 yrs rule, living-off on the blood and sweat of the world.
This is what I have to say the TRUTH HISTORY of our poor world.
JaneSanFrancisco 3 days ago
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What was happened?! Who is you?
iganinja375 3 days ago
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(Part3)Chinese supervisory unit, how much Chinese government was an evil?? Even now it has been killing Tibetans and Uighurs.
undertakerRach 4 days ago
(Part2)Professor Bunyu Ko, a controversial Taiwanese-born historian, estimates that throughout the Sino-Japanese war the victims killed by such Chinese supervisory units were more than those killed by the Japanese military. He states that in Nanking also, the Chinese supervisory unit killed many Chinese soldiers who tried to flee from the battle. The war casualties in Westerners reports included such Chinese soldiers who had been killed by the Chinese.
undertakerRach 4 days ago
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(Part1)During the battle of Nanking, Chinese soldiers were not only killed by the Japanese military, but also killed by a Chinese supervisory unit, who were Chinese soldiers waiting behind to kill their fellow soldiers trying to flee from the battlefield. The American or Japanese military never had such units; however, the Chinese military had such a unit in every battle to kill their fleeing soldiers.
undertakerRach 4 days ago
Japanese people should look at the history as a mirror. It means that Japan should not whitewash the atrocities they did before 1945.
ec97531 6 days ago
@ec97531
I know the definition of Nanking Massacre by the Chinese government too well. I'm asking whether you support it or not.
Whitewashing the atrocities they did before 1945? What's that? I believe the IJA never did any atrocities intentionally. They were always the results of desperate struggles to win the war against the Western powers.
iganinja375 6 days ago
@iganinja375 What atrocities? Looted, burned, raped and killed civilian in Asian countries.
You are whitewashing Japanese war crimes history.
ec97531 5 days ago
@ec97531
Still no answer to my fundamental question?
Looted, burned, raped and killed civilians? That's what Chinese soldiers did to their own people down through history. After the Japanese troops entered Nanking, citizens began to return their homes.
iganinja375 5 days ago
@iganinja375 "return their homes..."? You are speaking out of your ass. LOL Show me evidence, lunatic.
You are fooling yourself.
ec97531 5 days ago
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milonganuova 5 days ago
@ec97531
How longer do I have to wait for your answer to my fundamental question?
BTW, here is a record of population movements of Nanking:
First half of 1937: 1 million
Early Nov. to Nov. 23: 500,000
Nov. 27: 300,000 to 400,000
Dec. 13: 200,000
Jan. 14, 1938: 250,000 (population reverted to increase after Japanese occupation.)
Source: 「文藝春秋」Issue No.16, 1938
iganinja375 4 days ago
@ec97531
The 250,000 data is from the official document issued by The International Committee for Nanking Safety Zone.
iganinja375 4 days ago
@iganinja375 Really??? What about all the other numbers? Where you get 200,000? Those numbers are made up by you.
You are whitewashing Japanese war crimes history.
ec97531 4 days ago
@ec97531
No, I didn't made up 200,000. www
iganinja375 3 days ago
@ec97531
BTW, where's your answer to my simple question? Do I have to wait more?
iganinja375 3 days ago
@iganinja375 I have already answered your question, Moron. You are whitewashing Japanese war crimes history.
ec97531 3 days ago
@ec97531
That's not answer. I'm asking what we are whitewashing for. What war crimes did we commit? Killing innocent civilians is one thing, and killing POWs or guerrillas is another. Tell me which you are blaming.
iganinja375 3 days ago
@iganinja375 Didn't I said you need a mental doctor?
ec97531 2 days ago
@iganinja375 Go get some books written by "松崗環".
ec97531 1 day ago
@ec97531
松崗環's book is not available in Japanese language and I found only Chinese websites about her except one. So I have no idea as to what she's saying. She must be a very good friend of China and Chinese.
I know why you can't answer my question. If you answered, you'd become one of those Nanking Massacre deniers. That's the reason.
iganinja375 1 day ago
@iganinja375 She is a Japanese who admits the truth of history, and she has been to Nanking many times in order to investigate and spoken with those survivors since 80s.
ec97531 1 day ago
@iganinja375 How old are you? You are talking like an elementary student.
ec97531 1 day ago
@ec97531
I'm asking an elementary-school level question but you can't answer it. Are you below the school age?
iganinja375 23 hours ago
@iganinja375 LOL... Not that I cannot answer, but I don't want to answer your Multiple Choice question, because I'm not a elementary student.
If you insist for an answer, I would said "non of the above". LOL
Anyway, your motivation is not more than whitewash Japanese war crimes history, that's all. You are wasting my time.
ec97531 15 hours ago
@ec97531
So let me hear your own idea about the victims.
iganinja375 6 hours ago
@ec97531
I don't want to show you evidences on Nanking Massacre any more here because it's off-topic here. Before you bring up another Nanking topic, find this forum post:
"A Nanking Massacre is yet another big allegation against the Japanese"
This is post #160 (bottom) on the forum page. You can find more detailed population movements in Nanking there.
iganinja375 4 days ago
♪♪ コピペでゴー ♡♡♡♡♡
What was happened?!
iganinja375 6 days ago
(Part6)I want to say Chinese people should look at history as a mirror. It means that China should not forget her brutal actions against Tibet and Uighur.
undertakerRach 6 days ago
(Part5)In all cases, except for its support of North Vietnam war against South Vietnam, China has used force preemptively. China attacked the opponent first after careful preparation, whereas the opponent suffered from a surprise attack. So, why has China been teaching such old Japan’s crime, which is not true, to their children? Chinese war crimes have still continued.
undertakerRach 6 days ago
(Part4)A recent survey of world public opinion from 2005 to 2007 found that Japan is the country most widely viewed as having a positive influence, which is helped by the fact that Japan has never used military power as a means for settling international conflicts after 1945. Since the People's Republic of China was established in 1949, the frequency of its use of military forces reaches the double digits. On average, China has used military power for several years.
undertakerRach 6 days ago
(Part3)However, since this period Japan and China have changed considerably. Today, China is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party and Japan democracy. While history should not be forgotten, we must also judge a country by its current actions.
undertakerRach 6 days ago
(Part2)Chinese government has hidden their brutal war history to their citizens. If Chinese people had known what China had done in Tibet, they could not accuse Japan with a one track mind. In fact, Chinese leaders always say to Japanese leaders that Japan should look at history as a mirror. It means that Japan should not forget her brutal actions against China during the Sino-Japanese conflict in the late 1930s and the beginning of the 1940s.
undertakerRach 6 days ago
(Part1)Some Chinese people have claimed that Japan always wants to fight with another country. Also they are accusing the Japanese dogs needed to be as brutal and cruel as possible to win the war. Some Chinese are taught exaggerated Japan’s war crimes, for instance, the Nanking Massacre must have been created by China for their propaganda, and also there is no conclusive evidence about that. Why does China continually teach wrong history to school kids?
undertakerRach 6 days ago
Some foreigners wrote the Japanese rape stories in documents during the war. However, these cases were what these Westerners heard about from the Chinese. After Minnie Vautrin wrote it, Chinese officers were caught by police for rape crimes. This story was written in an article of the New York Times on January 4, 1938. After they were caught, conspicuous cases of rape, looting and other atrocities did not take place. Therefore, these crimes were definitely caused by the Chinese.
undertakerRach 1 week ago
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Japan economic has been 0 growth for almost two decades, therefore Japanese made up the 311 tsunami story in order to lie for the donation.
ec97531 1 week ago
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ec97531 1 week ago
More video from USA discovery channel, take a look at the "Rape of Nanking" portion.
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ec97531 1 week ago
@ec97531
Why do you avoid answering my question? What's the trouble????
These videos are made by Chinese aiming at propaganda purposes. They provide no answer.
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 Avoid your question? LOL... I don't define what "Nanking Massacre" is. Nanking Massace had been defined by whole world, even in Japan. Only the right wing Japanese like you are trying to whitewash the Japanese war crimes history. That's all.
ec97531 1 week ago
@iganinja375 I can say 311 Japanese tsunami is a fake story. Japanese made up the story in order to cheat for the donation.
ec97531 1 week ago
@ec97531
You seem you never want to answer my simplest and most fundamental question. If you were a prosecutor in a court, you'd immediately lose the case.
I think I can now assume you really are one of the Nanking Massacre deniers. Right?
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 Who did not answer whom? I have shown you the Japanese soldiers' diaries specifying "Nanking Massacre". What is your answer? "seem to..."? Didn't I ask you to find yourself a better excuse? Where is your "better excuse"? Where is your answer?
You are fooling yourself, FOOL.
ec97531 1 week ago
retarded.
iganinja375 1 week ago
Japan is horrible from going to china just to rape? Wtf these japs a crazy to rape games to more rape, all Japan does is rape rape rape 24/7 trust me on this and undertakerRach is a lying jap monkey that just want to defend his raping country to think that he was the one that was born from a good country
XiaoDanDragon 1 week ago
@XiaoDanDragon --- What so hypocritical too is that they said these people were subhumans and then they forced themselves sexually on these people.
So why have sex with a subhuman ? Can these Japs do better than that ? What a joke !
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
How old are you ? It seems to me that you can't grasp the implication of my answers. You continue to ask me to explicitly answer your questions.
If you feel that the Japanese were wrongly accused by the International Tribunal. You and those that feel the same you do should appeal the decision and restore your honors.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
So if I grasped your implication correctly, I may conclude that you admit the so-called "Nanking Massacre" as claimed by the CCP didn't exist. And that means no other kind of Nanking Massacre existed either. Ok?
As for the International Tribunal, the Japanese government already declared that they accepted the punishments, but not the judgements, because of the dubious nature of the Tribunal.
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 No you didn't grasp her implication correctly.In fact you completely mis interpreted what was said.Take your case to the highest court in the UN,anywhere you like.You won't because you bastards don't have a leg to stand on, the evidence against jap brutality and cruelty is credible,compelling and overwhelming.There were Military Tribunals established elsewhere in the Pacific and Asia. Strangely,they all came to similar conclusions.Nothing dubious about the judgements or punishments.
Flamstop 1 week ago
@Flamstop
Let's talk about Nanking. You say I completely misinterpreted what was implied in another person's comments. If so, what is your interpretation? Do you mean you support the CCP's official claim for 300,000 innocent civilians as the victims? Or are you meaning any other possibilities? Let me hear your interpretation.
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 --- All along, I pointed you to videos that talked about the atrocities even from the Japanese soldiers themselves and to the International Tribunal court proceedings. The implication was that I believe wholeheartedly, along with thousands of victims in China, Korea, Phillipines, Vietnam and the millions of soldiers around the world who fought in these wars. I hope I am clear so don't keep asking me who are the victims.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
JAPAN HORRIBLE. JUST HORRIBLE!
superkoo8 1 week ago
Strange question, I'm not sure what your intention is BUT.....
Nanking is a city in China and it is called the "Nanking Massacre", isn't it obvious.
The Japanese invaded China (and I believe Korea also) , it was a war of aggression.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
I mean, I'm asking which you would choose from these 4 selections as the most probable victims of the massacre:
(1) 300,000 innocent civilians who remained outside the Safety Zone
(2) Approx. 200,000 innocent civilians who took refugee in the Safety Zone
(3) POWs in military uniforms
(4) Guerrillas in disguise of civilians stripping off their military uniforms
Of course you can show me your own possibilities other than these.
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 why don't you Google it ?
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
I'm asking your view. It's an extremely simple question. What's the trouble?
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 No trouble, from my previous reponses I think my view is really clear.
BUT here it is again, If a country invades another country for the purpose of occupation, then it is an act of aggression regardless of whether the casaulties are civilians or the military soldiers who are defending their country. If the civilians are victimized then it would be considered war crime.
What is your view my friend and I hope you'd extend the same courtesy ? ? ?
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
No, you seem to be in trouble. Otherwise, why do you avoid answering my question? (1) or (1) and (2). It's so simple. Why avoid?
BTW, you say the Japanese invaded another country (China and Korea to your belief). But we actually invaded neither. As for China, we had absolutely no intention of invading China. It was China that initiated the Sino-Japanese War by attacking our settlement, among others, in Shanghai. We just responded to it. Here's an article from the NYT:
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 It did not start with ww2, it started back when China was invaded by the British around the late 19th century during the opium wars. Since then the other 7 nations joined in and tried to divide up China and is called "The 8 Nation Alliance" and Japan is one of them. WW2 just brought an end to it all.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@iganinja375 The governments of Japan and Germany were the only two that were charged with war crimes and found guilty by the international tribunal. I think that speaks for itself.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
I asked you for a simple answer to my question instead of lengthy blabs. You never seem to want to answer my question directly. Why? It seems so much trouble to just answer who were the victims.
Can I conclude you have denied the "Nanking Massacre" by yourself? No prosecutor would fall silent when he was asked who were the victims of the crime he was prosecuting for. Right?
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 Nanking Massacre is only one of many war crimes Japanese did before the end of ww2, even Japanese soldiers have recorded Nanking Massacre incident in their diaries.
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ec97531 1 week ago
@ec97531
The Japanese soldiers' diaries seem to just refer to the killing of guerrillas and POWs, not innocent civilians. Why ONLY do we have to get blamed for the killing of guerrillas and POWs? The Americans didn't take Japanese POWs as a rule unless they needed someone to interrogate. Do you call the killing of POWs the "Nanking Massacre"? Isn't the definition of Nanking Massacre a mass murder of 300,000 innocent civilians?
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 "seem to"? find yourself a better excuse. These diaries specified 'Nanking Massacre". You are fooling yourself.
ec97531 1 week ago
@ec97531
At least the CCP's official claim is this. They put up a sign board bearing the number "300,000" at the facade of the Nanking Memorial Hall. Are you blaming us for something different from the CCP's official claim?
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 Yes, Many of you Japanese are whitewashing Japanese war crimes history.
ec97531 1 week ago
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milonganuova 1 week ago
@ec97531
Tell me your definition of Nanking Massacre.
iganinja375 1 week ago
@ec97531 If I didn't come across this guy on youtube myself, I would never believe somebody like him/her existed. It's an eye opener for me and so unreal.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
I thought you've run away from my question. Still no answer to it? What do you think of the CCP's official claim?
iganinja375 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube Many of these Japanese love to fooling themselves.
ec97531 1 week ago
@ec97531 --- Just like the Nazis denying the Holocaust. The Nazis and the Japs did all these killings and rapings in every country that they TRYING to invade. So the evidences are overwhelming. My parents are in their 80s and so they were in their late teen back then and told me stories about this.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube We should pass the "Japanese war crimes" history to our offspring.
ec97531 1 week ago
@ec97531
Why do I have to look up somebody's diaries? I listed the possible victims of massacre on 4 selections from (1) to (4). You can just pick 1 or 2 numbers from the list. Why not?
Are you afraid of getting sent to a concentration camp when you don't choose "300,000 innocent civilians" which is the official definition by the CCP?
iganinja375 1 week ago
@ec97531
I'm not joking. If you deny the CCP's official definition of Nanking Massacre, you'll be labeled a Nanking Massacre denier, won't you?
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 You need a mental doctor, serially.
ec97531 1 week ago
@ec97531
I support the CCP's official definition of Nanking Massacre wholeheartedly.
iganinja375 1 week ago
@ec97531 The Chinese people will never forget this atrocities by the Japs and the
occupation of the 8 Nation Alliance. Just as the Jews will never forget the Holocaust.
Don't bother debating this issue, some one just wrote to me and told me that the Japanese taught in their schools that they were the victims.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube I know. Many of those shameless Japanese interpret their looted, burned, raped and killed as liberty.
ec97531 1 week ago
@ec97531 Why do I need a mental doctor?
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 Why not?
ec97531 1 week ago
@ec97531
Why don't you answer my question once in a while? Another question.
I believe you also support the CCP's official definition of Nanking Massacre. Am I right?
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 You have not answered any of my questions. Why should I answer your's? In fact, I asked you first.
Here is another question, How come so many Japanese people whitewash their war crimes history? Indeed Nanking Massacre is only one of many atrocities Japanese Imperialist did.
ec97531 1 week ago
@ec97531
It's you that haven't answer my question.
My first question on this thread was "who do you think were the victims of Nanking Massacre?". And I showed you a list of 4 selections to choose from. But nobody, including you, have answered this question yet, and instead, asked irrelevant questions to avoid answering my question. You are again doing this. You don't want to answer my question asking if you support the CCP's definition of N.M., do you? Pls answer my simple question.
iganinja375 6 days ago
@iganinja375 Multiple choice question? Interesting. According to Chinese government's estimation, there are approximately 300,000 Chinese people were killed by Japanese military during the Nanking Massacre.
Btw, How old are you? Have you finished elementary school yet? Multiple Choice question? Naive, LOL
ec97531 6 days ago
@ec97531
As for whitewashing, you are just like asking me why I committed some crime when I'm saying I haven't committed any crime. It's natural I can't answer your question about why. Let's make the premise clear. Answer me what crimes you are saying we committed. Is it what the CCP claims, or what the Japanese soldiers wrote in their diaries, or anything else? Let's make it clear first.
iganinja375 6 days ago
@ec97531
No news is good news!
iganinja375 6 days ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
BTW, you brought up the IMTFE (Tokyo Trial) to condemn our "war crimes." But did you know that the Dutch and British attempted a second invasion into Indonesia (July 1947) right in the middle of the Tokyo Trial (May 1946 to Nov. 1948)? Although the British gave it up soon facing fierce resistance by the Indonesian, the Dutch persisted their way and killed over 800,000 Indonesian people and 1,000 Japanese volunteer soldiers in the battles.
iganinja375 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
Which do you think is the true war criminals? And you see how bogus the Tokyo Trial was. It was just an unlawful revenge to the loser by the victor of the war. You're too ignorant.
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 oh yeah, maybe the Japanese were the victims here. Hmmmmm, I think the US soldiers went over to Japan and forced the Japanese soldiers at gun point to fly over to US and bombed Pearl Harbor.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@iganinja375 Actually, according to the Japanese warriors's code of honors that if they failed their mission, they would kill themselves. BUT they didnot do it, didn't they.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@iganinja375 You can watch this video clip below, the Japanese soldiers recounted the atrocities in Japanese language.
"Horror in the East: Japan and the Atrocities of World War II -Part 4 of 7"
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
Hallett Abend, NYT correspondent (August 31, 1937):
...One foreign official said, "concerning the Shanghai hostilities the records will justify only one decision. The Japanese did not want a repetition of the fighting here and exhibited forbearance and patience and did everything possible to avoid aggravating the situation. But they were literally pushed into the clash by the Chinese, who seemed intent on involving the foreign area and foreign interests in this clash."
iganinja375 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
As for Korea, annexation was initially proposed from the Korean side (JoongAng Ilbo, Aug. 27, 2001). Here is a message from Pak Jeong-hui, former President of Korea:
"Annexation was our choice. It isn't that Japan invaded our land. It was our forefathers' decision to admit annexation. If we had chosen Quing (清), we would have seen a bigger turmoil as Quing fell very soon.
iganinja375 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
"If we had chosen Imperial Russia, the whole peninsula would have been turned into a communist state as Imperial Russia also died out very soon. The entire peninsula, both north and south, would have been communized in the end. I wouldn't say that Japan was the best option. But we had to make our choice anyway, and I think Japan was the only option left to us."
What do you think? If you blame us, say what crime we committed. Otherwise you're deemed making a false charge.
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 I knew you would take this stand and that was why I asked you to Google for the answers. WW2 is not that far back, so some people that experienced ww2 are still alive today. Also cameras were invented and had captured these atrocities.
Today, I don't think the Chinese, Koreans and the Filipinos hold the contemporary Japanese responsible for these atrocities BUT to deny these when so much evidences existed is very humiliating to those endured these atrocities.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@iganinja375 I'm just a civilian who learned from history so I won't go into the details of the all these atrocities. BUT if you Google "Tokyo War Crimes Tribunal", you will find the full details of the entire court proceedings.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
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japs are asia's most barbaric devils in history. the world clapped when japs got nuked and vaporized
GenzoWhrqkflqkfl 1 week ago
What is the definition of so-called Nanking Massacre ?
Were 300,000 civilians murdered in Nanking ? 100,000? 50,000? 10,000? 5,000? 49?
The title of the fair book on Amazon is "The Alleged Nanking Massacre : Japan's rebuttal to China's forged claims" .
Thank you.
SOVIETasTheINVADER 1 week ago
@SOVIETasTheINVADER How about Fuck You instead?Where do you pencil dicks keep coming from?The moon made of cheese is it?
Flamstop 1 week ago
@SOVIETasTheINVADER Japanese denied the "Nanking Massacre" just like the Nazis
denied the Holocaust.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
Did you know the Japanese carried out air raids on the Nanking city from August through December, 1937, before the Japanese land troops started attacking the city? The Chinese never mention this fact, somehow....
iganinja375 1 week ago
@iganinja375 yes, there are videos on the "Nanking Massacre" on youtube.
sinnieleeonUtube 1 week ago
@sinnieleeonUtube
So who do you think were the victims of the "Nanking Massacre"? Will you tell if you don't mind?
iganinja375 1 week ago
balde de merda
hojeda1000 2 weeks ago
esses japoneses malditos merece um balde de merda ndiumalla cara.
hojeda1000 2 weeks ago
This stupid undertakerRach really believes that her lies would become true if she posts her lies over and over. What a fool she is.
ec97531 2 weeks ago
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You want evidence...you jap lying motherfuckers? You can start here....anyone gullible enough to accept the "jap" version of events need only refer to the International Military Tribunal for the Far East,Judgements - Chapters 1 - 10, pages 1- 1211. These proceedings were launched by the Allies including the USA, China, UK, USSR, Australia, Canada,France,The Netherlands, NZ, India and The Phillipines.
So to all you lying jap revisionist PIGs....SUCK SHIT.
Flamstop 2 weeks ago
(Part5)His troops executed between 3,000 and 4,000 people. Chen Yi was later quoted by TIME magazine in April 7, 1947 as saying: "It took the Japs 51 years to dominate this island. I expect to take about five years to re-educate the people so they will be happier with Chinese administration." This fact shows they were mind controlled by the Chinese government? The Nanking Massacre was a fake story. In fact, Chinese school kids have learned anti-Japanese education.
undertakerRach 2 weeks ago
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@undertakerRach
Your stupid spamming can't change the history. Japanese committed Nanjing Massacre. Period.lol
GenzoWhrqkflqkfl 1 week ago
(Part4)In a number of incidents, killed civilians to obtain their clothing in Nanking city in 1937 before the Japanese troops entered to the Nanking castle. James Espy, the vice American Council at Nanking, reported to the American Embassy. Go back to the 228 massacre story, Chen Yi, the ROC authorities, had jailed or killed all the leading Taiwanese organizers he could identify and catch.
undertakerRach 2 weeks ago
(Part3)There were instances of beheadings and mutilation of bodies, and women were raped.h This is the Chinese inherent characteristics. The Nanking Massacre might have been have caused by KMT soldiers. In fact, R.J Rummel claims that Chinese peasants often had no less to fear from their own soldiers than they did from the Japanese. Moreover, KMT soldiers in the Nanking castle in their mad rush to discard their military uniforms and put on civilian clothes.
undertakerRach 2 weeks ago
(Part2)Estimates of the number of deaths vary from ten thousand to thirty thousand or more. According to the New York Times on March 29, 1947, an American said, gTroops from China arrived at Taiwan on March 7 and indulged in three days of indiscriminate killing and looting. For a time everyone seen on the streets was shot at, homes were broken into and occupants killed. In the poorer sections the streets were said to have been littered with dead.
undertakerRach 2 weeks ago
(Part1)The 228 Massacre was an anti-government uprising in Taiwan that began on February 27, 1947 and was violently suppressed by the Kuomintang (KMT) government. Before the 228 massacre was broke out, the mood of the crowd, which had already been harboring many feelings of frustration from KMT rule, reached breaking point. The KMT troops who came from mainland China were highly undisciplined, looting, stealing, and contributing to the overall breakdown of infrastructure and public services.
undertakerRach 2 weeks ago
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JAPAN IS CRIME NATION. JAPAN DENY THE FACTS. THEY MAKE HISTORY DISTORTION. JAPAN LIKE RAPING WOMEN. THEY WHY THERE IS RAPE CULTRUE IN JAPAN. SEARCH "RAPE GAME IN JAPAN, CNN REPORT"
lovelyJaneYeah 2 weeks ago
Banzai bitch, How about we quit whining about unproven japanese "attricoties" and start bringing up dresden, hiroshima, bromberg, nagasaki, tokyo, hamburg and schwinefurt to the picture?
dividednations44 2 weeks ago
This is like Ground hog day.
RPete100 2 weeks ago
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I can't believe what China said. Even the official conference about the Nanking Massacre research, Chinese historians showed their collections as evidence of the massacre. The photographs, which Chinese showed are known to be fabricated, or from different areas and different times, continue to be used to "prove" Japanese guilt in the winter of 1937-38 at Nanjing
undertakerRach 2 weeks ago
great general ishii
MrHEILDEMFUHRER1 3 weeks ago
英語で世界に発信!
☆♪☆♪☆♪UndetakerRachのコピペでGo!
iganinja375 3 weeks ago
China has no right to accuse Japan of crimes such as the Nanking Massacre because the massacre was made up story using fabricated evidence. Obviously what China says is pure fiction! Demonstration of this story by the Chinese government is libel and slander. It is natural that Japanese raising an objection.
undertakerRach 3 weeks ago
@undertakerRach Wtf are you talking about? My grandpa was an Indonesian in one of you're fucking Jap camps, he saw things who were way beyond evil.. you Japanese are the fucking shit of the earth trying to hide you're criminal past..
sm0keshell 2 weeks ago
@sm0keshell Do you know PETA?
undertakerRach 2 weeks ago
@undertakerRach He doesn't need to know PETA. What he does know is that your a lying piece of jap revisionist shit! Every single clip detailing the atrocities,murder,torture and rape committed by the japs is denied by you..every one of them.You've already been exposed as a liar who attempts to distort history by refusing to accept the magnitude of the crimes committed against the peoples of Asia and the Pacific by the japs... so fuck off!
Flamstop 2 weeks ago
@Flamstop 是嗎
undertakerRach 2 weeks ago
"Mr. Drea admits to some disappointment that smoking guns on Japanese war crimes did not turn up, especially when compared with documents on Nazi crimes that have led to new conclusions on what American officials knew about the Holocaust.
'To be honest, I'd hoped we'd find something,' Mr. Drea says.
'That's the historian's dream: fresh information that illuminates a dark problem. It just wasn't there.'"
You can find more details here:
"Release of Archives Helps Fill Gap in Files on Wartime"
iganinja375 3 weeks ago
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The U.S. National Archives (Maryland) disclosed some 100,000 pages of classified documents regarding the germ researches conducted by the former Japanese military in Manchuria. Some Chinese specialists were involved in the translation and analyses of Japanese materials as the members of the project team (The Sankei, January 18, 2007).
The project leader concluded as this:
iganinja375 3 weeks ago
(Part2)Smythe investigated the population with the help of many Chinese staffs on February 1938. He wrote a report which shows the population of Nanking was 250,000 or 270,000 as of the end of March 1938. Furthermore, The Nanking City Administrative Office of the Nanking Restoration Government, which was established on March 28, 1938, registered 277,000 inhabitants. Japanese soldiers killed 300,000 Chinese people in Nanking city? I don't want to hear Chinese people stories which they hope.
undertakerRach 4 weeks ago
(Part1)John Rabe, the Safety Zone Committee (TSZC) member, wrote in his diary in Dec 10, when the Nanking battle began, the Nanking population was 200,000. TSZC described in the Document No.9 dated in Dec 17, "On the 13th when the Japanese entered the city, we had nearly all the civilian population in the Safety Zone, so the number 200,000 is no doubt. TSZC documents read that in January 1938 the population was 250,000.
undertakerRach 4 weeks ago
(Part2)If there had been slaughter in Nanking of a magnitude so great (300,000 civilian victims) as to prompt the description “holocaust of the century,” there is not the slightest chance that he would have been silent on the matter.
undertakerRach 4 weeks ago
@undertakerRach Stupid people posting stupid comments.
ec97531 4 weeks ago
■(Part1)Chinese Communist Party Chairman Mao Zedong never referred to a massacre in Nanking. He made exactly one mention of the Battle of Nanking during a lecture delivered at Yan’an six months after the conflict, reproduced in On Protracted War. Chairman Mao criticized the Japanese for failing to annihilate Chinese troops after having surrounded them.
undertakerRach 4 weeks ago
Japan fully deserved the atomic bombings for their crimes, and in fact was not punished severely enough given their continued denial.
grandtheftvideo 1 month ago
@grandtheftvideo
How the fuck innocent people deserve it? American killed so many innocent people from Iraq.. do you think that Iraq has right to drop atomic bomb in Us?
Beetleking22 4 weeks ago
@Beetleking22 Lol you can't compare what the Japanese did, to what the Americans are doing now in Iraq, that is simply not possible..
sm0keshell 2 weeks ago
@grandtheftvideo I agree with you. Japan deserved for those two atomic bombs in 1945.
ec97531 4 weeks ago
LOL are the chinks still crying?
sawdudeful 1 month ago
Chengda85 :We must learn from past and not follow suit. China has suffered so much from Japanese. But in turn, China treats Tibet as they were treated. It goes on. China invested Billions in Tibet, not given. For each one dollars, they made thousands from Tibet. Free education if only Chinese is learnt. Tibetans are fighting in their country, not invading China as you said, You want to know about Tibet, be open and check other news besides Chinas only state run news. Sorry, you are part of it.
kyagpa 1 month ago
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@kyagpa (Part1)Since the revolt against Chinese rule in Tibet that began in 1956 and through the end of the Cultural Revolution in 1976, an estimated 1,200,000 Tibetans were killed and more than 6,000 religious sites were destroyed. In 1959, 1960, 1964, and 1997 the International Commission of Jurists examined Chinese policy in Tibet, violations of human rights in Tibet, and the position of Tibet in international law.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
why not put " masacre by american soldiers"?
master621 1 month ago
ccp has more than 300000 internet propaganda dogs, its famous things (its call 五毛党 or 50cent army, etc), ccp`s more than 300000 guy is working everyday 24hours everywhere internet, they deceive their chinks and world people too, they are making fake comment everywhere internet, even youtube too, those ccp`s propaganda dog is try to operate pablic opinion, i can see so many those dogs in youtube, if you go any chinks video, most of chinks commentator is just one of 300000
keynesac 1 month ago
I didn't understand..please once more..
piealb1 1 month ago
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(Part2)Moreover, China suborned some foreigners to write the false story to newspaper articles and a book. Chinese victims couldn’t receive any medical treatment for they had no money. Chiang Kai-shek said, “You can get medical treatment for free in hospitals if you said Japanese injured you.” That’s why; poor Chinese claimed “we were hurt by Japanese. This is one of the crimes malicious slanders.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
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(Part1)People can’t find any conclusive evidence of the Nanking Massacre. The Nanking population was increased after Japan controlled the city. Many witnesses confessed they had not watched any crime scenes in Nanking later. Chinese government reported the documents writing the number of dead bodies was 20,000, which number was the same number of Chinese soldiers’ dead bodies. Also China fabricated 143 pictures of the Nanking Massacre.
undertakerRach 1 month ago
"Shiroishi" or "Shiraishi" is a typical Burakumin surname from Tottori area, originally from Korean peninsula and related to Shilla. We all know every Shiraishi behaves bad.
serbetli100 1 month ago
@serbetli100 actually, "ishii" is his surname and "shiro" is his first name. OMGSH how can you say that you're japanese when you didn't even know that???? i'm not even one and i knew that
StudioGuttierrez 1 month ago
@serbetli100 Yah.... right.....O.K
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keynesac 1 month ago
Come on Commie Chinks, Japanese = immigrants from China in 1000, Chinese=Japanese,
you are accusing your own self.
keynesac 1 month ago
@keynesac the immigrants that moved to japan was there wayyyyyyy back when the chinese ethnicity or china didn't exist. they're not equal ethnically but only racially
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@StudioGuttierrez the immigrants that moved to japan was there wayyyyyyy back when the chinese ethnicity or china exist. they're same.
Chinese = Japanese
CCP chinks are accusing their own self. Same in Chinese cultural revolution. CHINKS kill CHINKS.
keynesac 1 month ago
@keynesac You stupid ass, How could your mom teach your history like this. dumpass.
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keynesac 1 month ago
I don't know anything about Japan do such a thing to Chinese, and I don't believe it! Japanese are nice people, they are gentle, they are educated, they have long historic culture. and all those evidence that Chinese showing to the world is not real, a lot of them are Made in China!
but I know Chinese genocide to Uyghurs in East Turkistan, Chinese genocide in Tibet! I don't understand, why Chinese people doesn't feel shame!? they done and doing such a thing to other, but blaming Japanese?!
UGTurk 2 months ago
@UGTurk you're correct. we only won battles in china and defeated china! there was no "systematic" genocide on civilians! perhaps there was side-effect, but that's it
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keynesac 1 month ago
@UGTurk idiot, the chinese gives billions of dollars to tibet everyyear as aid, gives tibetan children FREE EDUCATION (in tibetan language!) all the way to college! the religious items used by religious leaders of tibet were given to them as gifts hundreds of years ago and they are still wearing them today. I've seen videos of armed tibetans attacking people and destroying buildings and cars but the western media never shows them and lies that china is brutalizing tibet, learn to think!
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