I dont think he sucks, I know he sucks, and you have provided ample evidence as to why he sucks. Details, its all in the details. Its like offering to teach someone a new language, but not knowing how to speak yourself. Who does that.
@Micahel213 no i genuinely thought you were a ninjutsu practitioner i mean ive heard him taiking about complaints from other ninjutsu practioners but i thought everyone that citisized was ninjutsu. my bad i know now.
Oh please don't give me that 'real martial artist' crap! I'm involved with martial arts 24/7, it doesn't get more 'real' than that. I wipe my ass with that budo-crap! You want to be an artist? Go paint!
@Micahel213 some techniques in aikido are derived from karate they start similerly the entry to the techniques are the similarity end as you know is different though.
@Micahel213 i dont know of a way of doing it the closest thing is randori(multiple attackers free style aikido techniques) have you got a better if so tell me.
i mean ive inroled in bad clubs and seen bad moves as well but we are just trying to stop our art from dieing out . but i keep missing words out so dont take what i say the wrong way
If it's not that different then you've strayed a long way from aikido. Anyways, as I said earlier it's not about the techniques it's about the drills. Does your system know flowdrills?
Take that ChosunNinja. You can tell none of his students spar. They miss the understanding of combat that comes from actual doing it. Not just LARPing. But hands down non scripted sparring with fully committed attacks. Take that assistant of his: Janet. You can tell all she does is LARP. Slow start speeds. Flat footed in every position. I've been at this game for quite a while and most of the time I can tell whether someone can fight. I'm certain she does not.
@Micahel213 i ment what do you mean thair are alot of things in aikido that you probably dont see normally thats probably why you say that. you might think that thair are not strikes,or nerve use in aikido but thair is a lot aikido teachers probably dont show you. but this is basic. aikido techniques are unlimited.
@Micahel213 do you use throws i saw in that video told me about although it liked most of the techniques but when the the guy took his student/ attacker down he went do down to i mean thats fine if thair is one attacker but you on the floor you meaning anyone on the floor after using a technique is vunerable to some jumping on you what would you do if there were x number of attackers i mean that is what aikido was always desined for.
It's just an option. He prefers not to. Normally from that position he moves in with elbows, headbutt and knee. Observe the first part of this vid: /watch?v=5-ZTokwkQV4 .
@Aikiarts101 "What would you do if there were x number of attackers i mean that is what aikido was always desined for" -How on earth are you gonna defend yourself from several ppl, if you've never learned to defend yourself against one?! In the real world things don't follow the textbook pattern. Learning to fight by just training compliantly, is as futile as trying to learn how to drive by just reading the wehicle's instruction manual! Xample: Ever heard of the tacho-psyche effect??
@Micahel213 but also im not ignorent so take some tips from other arts because in most arts at least some techniques and methods are bound to be similer there are only so many ways you can stop a fight that our aim i dont know much about where you live but in our country self defense is becoming increasingly importent.
I used aikido as an example. But I am referring to how a lot of classical arts approach knife defense. In my life I have encountered a lot of bad techniques most of which weren't on YT.
@Micahel213 oh by the way i have friend who works in a night club and he use's his aikido all the time ive not heard of it not working bear in mind i dont know what attacks he faces so dont quote me on that.
I bet he is skilled in other arts too. Aikido on itself sucks when it comes to a fight with someone who is accustomed to fighting. You've been doing aikido for what? Two years? Try taking on a thaibokser with the same amount of training.
Those are knife drills. Big difference. The same principle can be applied to stick and empty hands. Besides, it isn't a stand alone technique. Just like all techniques in Eskrima it is part of a whole defensive mechanisme. Would I miss to catch the hand another move would follow as part of staying in the flow. It's like not putting all eggs in one basket.
@Micahel213 most aikido techniques aren't ether i don't what that 2nd dan stand alone techniques are only the basics in aikido. just a bit of inlightenmet. i mean i know i practise it.
He tried different things. But the knife was just too fast for his techniques. Fyi, this guy was an assistent to a 6th dan. I spoke with that guy afterwards and he told me that his assistent should never had tried that. That traditional aikido was not designed for actual combat.
That's where you fail. Traditional aikido wasn't designed for actual combat. O'Sensei was heavily opposed to it to be used in any competitive form. Now certain principles may be used effectively but you need to let go completely of the traditional side. Do you guys spar?
@Micahel213 i mean we call it practical aikido we cant really spar our in chance for a challenge is in self defense witch dosen't happen alot you know.
I don't mean to sound disrespectfull but that's fail nr 2. You need to spar. Only through sparring will you learn how to actual apply. In JKD we are taught to target eyes, throat, groin, knees, ankles, whatever is liable to immediately incapacitate an opponent. However, without sparring you will never get atuned to the chaos a fight brings. How you practise is how you fight. You don't learn how to fight during practise you don't learn how to fight at all.
@Micahel213 Actually it's a more combat based version but i don't think that the techniques have anything to do with tradition the saying is their are about 100 varyations of every aikido move but it's up to the practitioner to discover them.
I have known a few aikido blackbelts. One was convinced his techniques were effctive against knife attacks. We put it to the test (practise blade ofcourse) and I tell you he didn't stand a chance. And this guy was a nidan going sandan.
Believe me most traditional knife defenses just don't cut it. Knife attacks often occur unexpectedly and explode out of nowhere. If you're lucky enough to spot the attack coming at all then I promise you the force, speed and aggression will be nothing like you have or probably ever will experience during aikido practise.
Here's the problem with that statement. If you are chosuninja you don have to have knife defenses. You see you will be invincible. The knife will simple disintegrate against your skin. He's the chosun one. If you Greg teaches you how to make a seven course meal. You don't have to worry the meal makes it self. He is a god among men. We are just not worth. Scream it with me. "I AM NOT WORTHY"
shit techniques tend to get people to be overconfident. They are more likely to get you killed than relying on instinct. Specialized training take into account your natural reflexes and tendencies. I'm the one executing most of the techniques.
Great video as always Micahel. If I can be so bold can we have a vid on what a average Joe would do if he were to encounter a knife in dark alley, assuming running is not an option. I am asking because, my first thought through my training is to put something between me and the knife. Having been in one knife fight and being scared out my mind. Its a bad scene. Suggestions?
Wait...Hold up are suggesting that the man, big nuts, all powerful, I have hit all figured out, Greg Park, Master of all that is the martial arts, capable of stopping a bullet with his pinky toe is teaching incorrect skills against a blades. How can this be? You must understand Greg Park learned the black arts from cobra commander himself or was it dr. evil. No matter. We must follow Greg Park as he will lead us to the cereal box so I too can get my master certification from the local 5 and dime
Yes they are. The knife is the most dangerous weapon there is. Even more dangerous than a gun. You can not hope to defend against it unless you had specialized training. Footwork, reflexes, techniques and tactics all have to be atuned to dealing with a knife attack. And even then don't think you won't get cut. Just hope it isn't that bad.
I could show you some techniques but you'd get none the wiser. In the end it's just like fighting. Techniques are just instruments. It's all about practise. Training reflexes, line familiarization, footwork, proper tactics and so forth. Look around for some knife drills. You'll get the idea.
I saw you liked that opsgear vid. The guy already said it: the knife caught his chest already. He claims it didn't penetrate. Here's the thing. A knife doesn't have to penetrate. It will cut the muscles in the chest. When that happens you will not be able to lift your arms let alone muster any kind of defense. Moreover the assailant will still have momentum. He's not going to wait for you to execute your technique.
@Micahel213 absolutely. a knife does not need a whole lot of impact power to do damage. cut the muscle or tendon, you lose the ability to move that appendage. cut the nerve, same result. a real knife fight is not like hollywood.
This depends on the person learning the technique, and the situation given to him. Every person is different and so is every combat situation. In context you are right, but some training is better than no training at all.
reality is a MF,I'm not against The Korean ninja,or for.I just like how your vids sinks the reality into people,It ain't no joke when comes down to it,Teach the people to be aware,keep up the good work and god bless
All this video shows is that ChosunNinja's technique may not be the best choice of actions in this situation. You offer no alternative method of defense. Apparently, if you're attacked by someone wielding a knife and you can't get away, you're screwed. At least ChosunNinja offers a fighting chance. It may or may not be successful but at least it's something. What do you offer? Absolutely nothing. Unless you have something better to offer, stop trying to dismantle others techinques.
My point talk is cheap. One thing I can say for Chosun is that he is persistant. So if he really does suck, put your this BS to sleep and show me some skill. There has to be a 1000 other masters and students on here who could careless about what one guy thinks about their technique. How is yours better? Is yours better? or are you just another bag of wind complaining about something you can not improve on. One more thing knife defense is 90% mental preparation. You forgot to add that.
If you have a better knife defense option I would like a video produced on it immediately. As I said before if you are going to call out someone else you need to make sure what you are offering is more effective. Im am now wondering because you pointed out his supposed failing in the teaching, but didn't offer a better other than show a piece of meat getting sliced. If you are jealous because he has more viewers than you, or if you are truly going to show me the errors in his ways.
@captjack5169 watch stuff that Paul Vunak puts out. or Michael Janich. or Kelly Worden. they are very much a reality knife fighters. more effective techniques is to stay at largo mano distance if you can, and try to damage his weapon limb with counter-strikes. If you are forced closer you need to control his weapon and zone away from it. All Chosun is showing you is a good way to get cut.
As Micahel will tell you I am not a big fan of Greg anymore after find out that he produced a video suggesting that Ninjutsu started in Korea, and JKD got its origin from Nintaijutsu. Take most of everything I say as I am messing around. It pissing Greg off and I am happy to accomodate him. He is a poser and a Liar, and he knows we know this. He does this stuff to get the attention he getting, but I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction.
The request I made to Micahel was for the masses. We know what not to do, if we are going to prove that Greg is going to get you killed, we must demonstrate a better way, but point out the best option is not to fight at all. For knife fighting I have two option when running is out. the one you made, and to close on the knife arm before he can use it and apply wrist or arm lock techniques. Yes this is risky, but so is doing nothing. In a fight you do what you must do. Thoughts?
@captjack5169 depends on if you have a knife too. In that case (ie a duel) you want to try to destroy his weapon (ie cut the muscle/tendon/nerve actuating his appendage) or his mobility (traget his legs and base). This can be done with gunting style counter-strikes while staying at largo mano range. Granted you need to be fast, accurate and know how to judge distance and angles. In any case it'll be messy.
Again. I find myself wanting to poke my eyes out because I m getting updates from you and Master Park taking shots at each other. I feel that I will probably have to unsubscribe to you both, because this is not what I signed on for the two techniques he teaches about knife defense in this video can be found being taught by two other masters in two other videos on youtube. Hence Micahel, what are you trying to prove. That his way is fake although others are teaching it.
@Micahel213 People have proven over and over that these techniques are ineffective, but Paul Vunak is the the first person I've ever seen who explained why they used to make sense for the type of ancient armored combat they were originally developed for. I used to think they were just dumb techniques.
This video has some good points. While I think that directly attacking another martial art or martial artist is bad tact, Please do share your martial arts knowledge with more videos!
Hi, thanks for the comment. Point is that Nintaijutsu isn't a real martial art (see latest thread on it on Martial Arts Planet). It's a concoction by ChosunNinja and lacks logic, base and structure. If you bare with me a few weeks I will be coming up with some videos that display some of my personal views on self defense and martial arts and/or my understanding of them.
@Micahel213 I can totally see where you're coming from, but I just think you might be able to use a different method. For instance, I don't happen to like death metal. However, I don't go around telling people how bad death metal is and why they shouldn't listen to it. Instead, I make my own music, in the hopes that someone who also dislikes death metal will be able to listen to it. Likewise, If I were to disagree with Nintaijutsu, or any martial art, I would teach people my own style.Thanks
Bad analogy. It is not a matter of taste it's a matter of logic. And I am not here to teach. I may give out pointers or some sense of how things should be approached, but I do not believe in online teaching.
you have every right to criticize everyone and anyone you choose. but how about this: since you take offense to Greg Park and his work, and apparently are also offended by a person of Korean descent practicing a variant of Ninjitsu... maybe you should also publish some videos that criticize Bruce Lee... as here is an Asian American drawing from many styles and teaching others what he finds works best for him... obviously Bruce Lee is of the same ilk, spreading vile poison to the masses! consider
Sorry, you're not getting to play the ethnic card with me. I'm part Asian myself.
And you just proven yourself quite the idiot comparing one of the most brilliant and innovative martial artists ever with a 'I-want-be-cuddled-so-bad-I-start-my-own-cult'- wannabe like ChosunNinja.
@Micahel213 no joke, it's funny how he call Houzan a racist (me and Houzan are friends and seen making videos together) but clearly greg shows nothing but hate for people of color learning real kenjutsu..
It's a stale tactic. That way they don't have to discuss the technique in detail. It's a bit like Greg tends to do. Tell his viewers "this is wrong, my way is right" but then never explains why.
@Micahel213 Yes i know just like same mind tactic they use in cults, when they use that "positive talking mode on" then slide in the jedi mind trick crap.. also it's funny how that guy said and you are a JKD teacher.
@Micahel213 OCD, nobody gives a crap what you think, pal. If you're blind to the example I'm giving, too bad for you. The point is... he's into some martial art you think is bogus. But it works for him, and many others. spending a good portion of your time, and you do, berating him and "debunking" him, is pointless. Almost as pointless as me leaving this comment, cuz i KNOW you're just going to have some snarky reply. Be the bigger man, and just drop it.
Ask ninjaspot how well it works. Or Greg's student Fernando when he gets back from his first year of military training. If you don't care what I think, then why comment at all? Did you know the majority of my subscribers were ChosunNinja subscribers first? They believed in him but saw the logic of my criticisme. Do you know how Greg refers to them? He calls them the weed in his garden. That is what a loving, caring Christian he is.
@Micahel213 ok fucknut. get this through your thick skull. if park and i got into a conversation about religion it would quickly come to blows. however, park is not an animal, like so many out there who purport to practice martial arts. go die. but before you do... be sure to spend 40 years making youtube videos about how greg park is a bad dude and wants to harm you.
@Micahel213 look, man, my point has been this: I have some marital arts training, I've had a couple of dudes pick fights with me, much to their own chagrin, they soon learned... So I'm not exactly wet behind the ears, here. Now: I learn things every time I see Park on youtube, like I mentioned previously. I DO NOT, allow any dubious or spurious claims he makes regarding the history of Korea, Japan or Ninjitsu work me up into such a froth that I must dediacte a whole channel to it.
@Micahel213 Furthermore, I do not allow his religious beliefs, nor his propensity to hang upside down from trees while throwing lady fingers or Shurikens at targets, to detract from my taking key points that he shares and teaches, and learning from them. So, I'll leave it at that. Good luck. I'm actually having to deal with several other unrelated issues so don't expect any further correspondence from me, not in the near future.
I give this a perfect 10. There is really no way to defend a knife accept to really run. A kid will attempt to block a knife when really attacked and will be dead.
There is a difference between knife fighting and defending. It is nearly impossible to defend against a knife with bare hands. And as far as holding the knife... There is a way to hold the knife in martial arts and in this video doesn't show it. And I wont say it because Choson ninja will say he knew it.
Wow I underestimated this guy Paul knowledge on stuff. i feel the same way he does, it's dangerous. he knows this stuff. i still disagree on his other video where he slap attacker in a bar disorient them.
@Kungfumastertraining Traditional martial arts (in Poland called also Dead martial arts sometimes) are called so, because they stopped "upgrading" some time ago. They are not about being as useful as possible, they are just piece of culture and tradition
Paul was my JKD/Kali teacher back in the day. I first met and trained with him in 1998 and became fully immersed in PFS. I was awarded my Full Instructorship from him back in 2003. This was before the new DOM direction he took PFS in. Paul was one of the most knowledgeable and interesting teachers I've had. If you want, you can see some of my home films training at his home in California on my channel. His knife material was absolutely top notch as well as his grappling and CQC skills.
He doesn't need to be stopped. We are very fortunate to have someone who has it in him to make every mistake known and more. That way we can point them out quite clearly for others to learn from. This is our way of sharing for free.
@Aikiarts101
Nope, martial arts practitioners from all kinds of systems all over the world think ChosunNinja sucks.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213
I dont think he sucks, I know he sucks, and you have provided ample evidence as to why he sucks. Details, its all in the details. Its like offering to teach someone a new language, but not knowing how to speak yourself. Who does that.
captjack5169 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
I hope you are not referring to ChosunNinja. Check out my vid about him doing a chi-power demo. You' ll see what a fake he is.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 no i genuinely thought you were a ninjutsu practitioner i mean ive heard him taiking about complaints from other ninjutsu practioners but i thought everyone that citisized was ninjutsu. my bad i know now.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiart101
Oh please don't give me that 'real martial artist' crap! I'm involved with martial arts 24/7, it doesn't get more 'real' than that. I wipe my ass with that budo-crap! You want to be an artist? Go paint!
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
Nope. Though I have 20+ yrs exp in karate I am mainly JKD.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 thought of someone else then
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 some techniques in aikido are derived from karate they start similerly the entry to the techniques are the similarity end as you know is different though.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
the concept of defending yourself without harming your opponent. That was O' Sensei's idea when he developed aikido.
Micahel213 1 week ago
one more thing your video up top is anoying the guy starts taking when im typing just thought i should tell you.lol :)
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
switch to pm. You can use all the words you need.
One more thing before I turn in for the night. I'd like your thought about what I said and quoted about sparring. Don't you think you need to spar?
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 i dont know of a way of doing it the closest thing is randori(multiple attackers free style aikido techniques) have you got a better if so tell me.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 i mean another idea
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 what's pm
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 by the way i hope i didnt offend you a while ago i missed out some words im not out to make enemies with anyone thats not the budo way
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
by the way can you try delete some comments its making mine smaller and i cant fit every word in so i might have to miss out words
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
i mean ive inroled in bad clubs and seen bad moves as well but we are just trying to stop our art from dieing out . but i keep missing words out so dont take what i say the wrong way
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
If it's not that different then you've strayed a long way from aikido. Anyways, as I said earlier it's not about the techniques it's about the drills. Does your system know flowdrills?
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 what is do you mean
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
Take that ChosunNinja. You can tell none of his students spar. They miss the understanding of combat that comes from actual doing it. Not just LARPing. But hands down non scripted sparring with fully committed attacks. Take that assistant of his: Janet. You can tell all she does is LARP. Slow start speeds. Flat footed in every position. I've been at this game for quite a while and most of the time I can tell whether someone can fight. I'm certain she does not.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 i ment what do you mean thair are alot of things in aikido that you probably dont see normally thats probably why you say that. you might think that thair are not strikes,or nerve use in aikido but thair is a lot aikido teachers probably dont show you. but this is basic. aikido techniques are unlimited.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
It doesn't matter how good your techniques in theory are. If you don't spar you are limited by nature.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 do you use throws i saw in that video told me about although it liked most of the techniques but when the the guy took his student/ attacker down he went do down to i mean thats fine if thair is one attacker but you on the floor you meaning anyone on the floor after using a technique is vunerable to some jumping on you what would you do if there were x number of attackers i mean that is what aikido was always desined for.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
It's just an option. He prefers not to. Normally from that position he moves in with elbows, headbutt and knee. Observe the first part of this vid: /watch?v=5-ZTokwkQV4 .
Micahel213 1 week ago
i tried typing your link in its not taking me anywhere could tell me the name of the video
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 who is he
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
Aikido is not designed for actual combat. Eskrima is. Eskrima is developed on and for the battlefield.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 but if you look in aikidos history its baed ancient jujutsu but evolved in to a defesive system ask any aikido master that.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
"Ueshiba's goal was to create an art that practitioners could use to defend themselves while also protecting their attacker from injury."
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213
It's a noble idea but it just doesn't work in actual combat. It means that you have to constrain yourself. In eskrima there are no limits.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 what does that mean? sorry dont get it
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 depends which way you see it.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101 "What would you do if there were x number of attackers i mean that is what aikido was always desined for" -How on earth are you gonna defend yourself from several ppl, if you've never learned to defend yourself against one?! In the real world things don't follow the textbook pattern. Learning to fight by just training compliantly, is as futile as trying to learn how to drive by just reading the wehicle's instruction manual! Xample: Ever heard of the tacho-psyche effect??
piaten 1 week ago
@Micahel213 what is noble idea?
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 what do you mean its a nonle idea? as a martial artist you shouldent be out to make enemies other wise your not a real martial artist.:|
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 but also im not ignorent so take some tips from other arts because in most arts at least some techniques and methods are bound to be similer there are only so many ways you can stop a fight that our aim i dont know much about where you live but in our country self defense is becoming increasingly importent.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
I have knowledge and experience about and in a great variety of arts. Up untill now I have found no better blend than JKD and Eskrima.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 to be honest i thought you were a ninjutsu guy at the start
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101 i might have been thinking about someone else though.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
hahaha I liked the ''Just like that'' at the end, nice job
kangahmtl2n 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
I used aikido as an example. But I am referring to how a lot of classical arts approach knife defense. In my life I have encountered a lot of bad techniques most of which weren't on YT.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 oh by the way i have friend who works in a night club and he use's his aikido all the time ive not heard of it not working bear in mind i dont know what attacks he faces so dont quote me on that.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
I bet he is skilled in other arts too. Aikido on itself sucks when it comes to a fight with someone who is accustomed to fighting. You've been doing aikido for what? Two years? Try taking on a thaibokser with the same amount of training.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 i just watched your knife fighting eskrima your techniques weren't much better knife disarming is much based in knife fighting.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
Those are knife drills. Big difference. The same principle can be applied to stick and empty hands. Besides, it isn't a stand alone technique. Just like all techniques in Eskrima it is part of a whole defensive mechanisme. Would I miss to catch the hand another move would follow as part of staying in the flow. It's like not putting all eggs in one basket.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 most aikido techniques aren't ether i don't what that 2nd dan stand alone techniques are only the basics in aikido. just a bit of inlightenmet. i mean i know i practise it.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 i ment i dont know what the 2nd dan showed you
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
Very simple. I attacked very straight forward but committed and he tried to defend.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 what did he do what was his stance did he have his guard up?
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
He tried different things. But the knife was just too fast for his techniques. Fyi, this guy was an assistent to a 6th dan. I spoke with that guy afterwards and he told me that his assistent should never had tried that. That traditional aikido was not designed for actual combat.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
My question to you. Do you practise traditional aikido?
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 No i practise a more realistic version but we try to balance practicality with tradition.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
That's where you fail. Traditional aikido wasn't designed for actual combat. O'Sensei was heavily opposed to it to be used in any competitive form. Now certain principles may be used effectively but you need to let go completely of the traditional side. Do you guys spar?
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 i mean we call it practical aikido we cant really spar our in chance for a challenge is in self defense witch dosen't happen alot you know.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
I don't mean to sound disrespectfull but that's fail nr 2. You need to spar. Only through sparring will you learn how to actual apply. In JKD we are taught to target eyes, throat, groin, knees, ankles, whatever is liable to immediately incapacitate an opponent. However, without sparring you will never get atuned to the chaos a fight brings. How you practise is how you fight. You don't learn how to fight during practise you don't learn how to fight at all.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
"Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do." - Bruce Lee
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 type in to youtube combat aikido disarms this is real aikido.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
With all due respect but that's complete crap. This guy trains special ops: /watch?v=OkahDy5EkFE
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 i hate to tell you this guys techniques are not much different to mine thair are no rule in our style except not to kill your partner.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 the only thing that is different is we dont use ground techniques we dont think it's practical.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 have to say though i loved the counters to the defender.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Micahel213 Actually it's a more combat based version but i don't think that the techniques have anything to do with tradition the saying is their are about 100 varyations of every aikido move but it's up to the practitioner to discover them.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
If you are reading this Greg, you training habits are silly......and your mom dresses you funny.
captjack5169 1 week ago
Love this video....so truth
SOJIOBO 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
I have known a few aikido blackbelts. One was convinced his techniques were effctive against knife attacks. We put it to the test (practise blade ofcourse) and I tell you he didn't stand a chance. And this guy was a nidan going sandan.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 but be aware their is a lot of badly done aikido out there and alot of it is on youtube.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
Believe me most traditional knife defenses just don't cut it. Knife attacks often occur unexpectedly and explode out of nowhere. If you're lucky enough to spot the attack coming at all then I promise you the force, speed and aggression will be nothing like you have or probably ever will experience during aikido practise.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213
Here's the problem with that statement. If you are chosuninja you don have to have knife defenses. You see you will be invincible. The knife will simple disintegrate against your skin. He's the chosun one. If you Greg teaches you how to make a seven course meal. You don't have to worry the meal makes it self. He is a god among men. We are just not worth. Scream it with me. "I AM NOT WORTHY"
captjack5169 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
shit techniques tend to get people to be overconfident. They are more likely to get you killed than relying on instinct. Specialized training take into account your natural reflexes and tendencies. I'm the one executing most of the techniques.
Micahel213 1 week ago
by the way i saw your eskrima are you the big guy on the left
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
Great video as always Micahel. If I can be so bold can we have a vid on what a average Joe would do if he were to encounter a knife in dark alley, assuming running is not an option. I am asking because, my first thought through my training is to put something between me and the knife. Having been in one knife fight and being scared out my mind. Its a bad scene. Suggestions?
captjack5169 1 week ago
Wait...Hold up are suggesting that the man, big nuts, all powerful, I have hit all figured out, Greg Park, Master of all that is the martial arts, capable of stopping a bullet with his pinky toe is teaching incorrect skills against a blades. How can this be? You must understand Greg Park learned the black arts from cobra commander himself or was it dr. evil. No matter. We must follow Greg Park as he will lead us to the cereal box so I too can get my master certification from the local 5 and dime
captjack5169 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
Yes they are. The knife is the most dangerous weapon there is. Even more dangerous than a gun. You can not hope to defend against it unless you had specialized training. Footwork, reflexes, techniques and tactics all have to be atuned to dealing with a knife attack. And even then don't think you won't get cut. Just hope it isn't that bad.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 well where is your technique would you just let the guy stab you?
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
I could show you some techniques but you'd get none the wiser. In the end it's just like fighting. Techniques are just instruments. It's all about practise. Training reflexes, line familiarization, footwork, proper tactics and so forth. Look around for some knife drills. You'll get the idea.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 well you know you cant do nothing if someone is trying to stab you it's better to know shit techniques than none.
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
I saw you liked that opsgear vid. The guy already said it: the knife caught his chest already. He claims it didn't penetrate. Here's the thing. A knife doesn't have to penetrate. It will cut the muscles in the chest. When that happens you will not be able to lift your arms let alone muster any kind of defense. Moreover the assailant will still have momentum. He's not going to wait for you to execute your technique.
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 absolutely. a knife does not need a whole lot of impact power to do damage. cut the muscle or tendon, you lose the ability to move that appendage. cut the nerve, same result. a real knife fight is not like hollywood.
armynurseboy 1 week ago
@armynurseboy
Totally on the same page bro!
Micahel213 1 week ago
@Micahel213 see i've not long started aikido im an orange belt so far until now i've been practicng similer techniques
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
really well hundreds maybe thousands of other martial arts schools teach the same techniques are they all wrong
Aikiarts101 1 week ago
@Aikiarts101
This depends on the person learning the technique, and the situation given to him. Every person is different and so is every combat situation. In context you are right, but some training is better than no training at all.
captjack5169 1 week ago
Paul Vunak is the man. Bringing down the sledgehammer of reality.
jeffdoeskungfu 4 weeks ago
@jeffdoeskungfu
"Amen" to that!
Micahel213 4 weeks ago
reality is a MF,I'm not against The Korean ninja,or for.I just like how your vids sinks the reality into people,It ain't no joke when comes down to it,Teach the people to be aware,keep up the good work and god bless
DaDaoChen 1 month ago
@DaDaoChen
Hi thank, I'll try.
Cheers
Micahel213 1 month ago
All this video shows is that ChosunNinja's technique may not be the best choice of actions in this situation. You offer no alternative method of defense. Apparently, if you're attacked by someone wielding a knife and you can't get away, you're screwed. At least ChosunNinja offers a fighting chance. It may or may not be successful but at least it's something. What do you offer? Absolutely nothing. Unless you have something better to offer, stop trying to dismantle others techinques.
xsboost25psi 1 month ago
@xsboost25psi
Browse through my vids. You're bound to find the better alternative.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@TheStrawberryLolicon
This link doesn't go anywhere, please repost the link.
captjack5169 1 month ago
My point talk is cheap. One thing I can say for Chosun is that he is persistant. So if he really does suck, put your this BS to sleep and show me some skill. There has to be a 1000 other masters and students on here who could careless about what one guy thinks about their technique. How is yours better? Is yours better? or are you just another bag of wind complaining about something you can not improve on. One more thing knife defense is 90% mental preparation. You forgot to add that.
captjack5169 1 month ago
If you have a better knife defense option I would like a video produced on it immediately. As I said before if you are going to call out someone else you need to make sure what you are offering is more effective. Im am now wondering because you pointed out his supposed failing in the teaching, but didn't offer a better other than show a piece of meat getting sliced. If you are jealous because he has more viewers than you, or if you are truly going to show me the errors in his ways.
captjack5169 1 month ago
@captjack5169
If you really had gone through my vids you would have come across one demonstrating exactly that.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@captjack5169 watch stuff that Paul Vunak puts out. or Michael Janich. or Kelly Worden. they are very much a reality knife fighters. more effective techniques is to stay at largo mano distance if you can, and try to damage his weapon limb with counter-strikes. If you are forced closer you need to control his weapon and zone away from it. All Chosun is showing you is a good way to get cut.
armynurseboy 1 week ago
@armynurseboy
As Micahel will tell you I am not a big fan of Greg anymore after find out that he produced a video suggesting that Ninjutsu started in Korea, and JKD got its origin from Nintaijutsu. Take most of everything I say as I am messing around. It pissing Greg off and I am happy to accomodate him. He is a poser and a Liar, and he knows we know this. He does this stuff to get the attention he getting, but I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction.
captjack5169 1 week ago
@armynurseboy
The request I made to Micahel was for the masses. We know what not to do, if we are going to prove that Greg is going to get you killed, we must demonstrate a better way, but point out the best option is not to fight at all. For knife fighting I have two option when running is out. the one you made, and to close on the knife arm before he can use it and apply wrist or arm lock techniques. Yes this is risky, but so is doing nothing. In a fight you do what you must do. Thoughts?
captjack5169 1 week ago
@captjack5169 depends on if you have a knife too. In that case (ie a duel) you want to try to destroy his weapon (ie cut the muscle/tendon/nerve actuating his appendage) or his mobility (traget his legs and base). This can be done with gunting style counter-strikes while staying at largo mano range. Granted you need to be fast, accurate and know how to judge distance and angles. In any case it'll be messy.
armynurseboy 1 week ago
Again. I find myself wanting to poke my eyes out because I m getting updates from you and Master Park taking shots at each other. I feel that I will probably have to unsubscribe to you both, because this is not what I signed on for the two techniques he teaches about knife defense in this video can be found being taught by two other masters in two other videos on youtube. Hence Micahel, what are you trying to prove. That his way is fake although others are teaching it.
captjack5169 1 month ago
@captjack5169
I'm not claiming this is fake. I am stating that this particular knife defense is archaic and and ineffective.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 People have proven over and over that these techniques are ineffective, but Paul Vunak is the the first person I've ever seen who explained why they used to make sense for the type of ancient armored combat they were originally developed for. I used to think they were just dumb techniques.
barbarydoll 4 weeks ago
This video has some good points. While I think that directly attacking another martial art or martial artist is bad tact, Please do share your martial arts knowledge with more videos!
Ichimannichi 1 month ago
@Ichimannichi
Hi, thanks for the comment. Point is that Nintaijutsu isn't a real martial art (see latest thread on it on Martial Arts Planet). It's a concoction by ChosunNinja and lacks logic, base and structure. If you bare with me a few weeks I will be coming up with some videos that display some of my personal views on self defense and martial arts and/or my understanding of them.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 I can totally see where you're coming from, but I just think you might be able to use a different method. For instance, I don't happen to like death metal. However, I don't go around telling people how bad death metal is and why they shouldn't listen to it. Instead, I make my own music, in the hopes that someone who also dislikes death metal will be able to listen to it. Likewise, If I were to disagree with Nintaijutsu, or any martial art, I would teach people my own style.Thanks
Ichimannichi 1 month ago
@Ichimannichi
Bad analogy. It is not a matter of taste it's a matter of logic. And I am not here to teach. I may give out pointers or some sense of how things should be approached, but I do not believe in online teaching.
Micahel213 1 month ago
you have every right to criticize everyone and anyone you choose. but how about this: since you take offense to Greg Park and his work, and apparently are also offended by a person of Korean descent practicing a variant of Ninjitsu... maybe you should also publish some videos that criticize Bruce Lee... as here is an Asian American drawing from many styles and teaching others what he finds works best for him... obviously Bruce Lee is of the same ilk, spreading vile poison to the masses! consider
phukkdat 1 month ago
@phukkdat
Sorry, you're not getting to play the ethnic card with me. I'm part Asian myself.
And you just proven yourself quite the idiot comparing one of the most brilliant and innovative martial artists ever with a 'I-want-be-cuddled-so-bad-I-start-my-own-cult'- wannabe like ChosunNinja.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 dont forget he got offended and hated me because he was beaten by someone not of asian descent in budo.
skymilesdc5 1 month ago
@skymilesdc5
He's the biggest racist around.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 no joke, it's funny how he call Houzan a racist (me and Houzan are friends and seen making videos together) but clearly greg shows nothing but hate for people of color learning real kenjutsu..
skymilesdc5 1 month ago
@Micahel213 I don't get why people get upset(get stupid) if you critic a martial art or some teaching and all the sudden you a racist...
hotpopcorncake 1 month ago
@hotpopcorncake
It's a stale tactic. That way they don't have to discuss the technique in detail. It's a bit like Greg tends to do. Tell his viewers "this is wrong, my way is right" but then never explains why.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 Yes i know just like same mind tactic they use in cults, when they use that "positive talking mode on" then slide in the jedi mind trick crap.. also it's funny how that guy said and you are a JKD teacher.
hotpopcorncake 1 month ago
@Micahel213 OCD, nobody gives a crap what you think, pal. If you're blind to the example I'm giving, too bad for you. The point is... he's into some martial art you think is bogus. But it works for him, and many others. spending a good portion of your time, and you do, berating him and "debunking" him, is pointless. Almost as pointless as me leaving this comment, cuz i KNOW you're just going to have some snarky reply. Be the bigger man, and just drop it.
phukkdat 1 month ago
@phukkdat
Ask ninjaspot how well it works. Or Greg's student Fernando when he gets back from his first year of military training. If you don't care what I think, then why comment at all? Did you know the majority of my subscribers were ChosunNinja subscribers first? They believed in him but saw the logic of my criticisme. Do you know how Greg refers to them? He calls them the weed in his garden. That is what a loving, caring Christian he is.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 ok fucknut. get this through your thick skull. if park and i got into a conversation about religion it would quickly come to blows. however, park is not an animal, like so many out there who purport to practice martial arts. go die. but before you do... be sure to spend 40 years making youtube videos about how greg park is a bad dude and wants to harm you.
phukkdat 1 month ago
@phukkdat
Carefull now, you'll get an aneurysm.
Park not an animal? Well hanging from trees he does his best to look like one.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 I think that Greg in his ninja under cover account...lol
hotpopcorncake 1 month ago
@hotpopcorncake
I'm certain it isn't. Just someone who didn't get breastfed.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 No I think it's Greg since he losing viewer, even tho in his world people are still brown nosing him..
hotpopcorncake 1 month ago
@hotpopcorncake
No really, I am certain because this guy at first thought me to be a ChosunNinja supporter. Now he's pissed off at me because he feels cheated.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 I guess but ,Then why his channel spanking new?
hotpopcorncake 1 month ago
@Micahel213 look, man, my point has been this: I have some marital arts training, I've had a couple of dudes pick fights with me, much to their own chagrin, they soon learned... So I'm not exactly wet behind the ears, here. Now: I learn things every time I see Park on youtube, like I mentioned previously. I DO NOT, allow any dubious or spurious claims he makes regarding the history of Korea, Japan or Ninjitsu work me up into such a froth that I must dediacte a whole channel to it.
phukkdat 1 month ago
@phukkdat
Sorry, can't seem to find the point you try to make.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 Furthermore, I do not allow his religious beliefs, nor his propensity to hang upside down from trees while throwing lady fingers or Shurikens at targets, to detract from my taking key points that he shares and teaches, and learning from them. So, I'll leave it at that. Good luck. I'm actually having to deal with several other unrelated issues so don't expect any further correspondence from me, not in the near future.
phukkdat 1 month ago
@phukkdat
I never have and probably never will expect anything from you. I'll probably won't remember you quite soon.
Micahel213 1 month ago
@Micahel213 fuck you're retarded, any way you look at it
phukkdat 1 month ago
@phukkdat
You want to see retarded? Go watch my latest vid.
Micahel213 1 month ago
Hey can you upload the rest of the Paul Vunak footage please?
chrisgeorgegray 1 month ago
@chrisgeorgegray
You can find the whole clip here: /watch?v=mk-EVLyIpts
Micahel213 1 month ago
AMEN!!!!!!! he's not the only idiot teaching that crap.
davidcialini 1 month ago
I give this a perfect 10. There is really no way to defend a knife accept to really run. A kid will attempt to block a knife when really attacked and will be dead.
sungninja 1 month ago
@sungninja you should look up kali... Dan Inosanto knew kali.. its knife fighting genius
CrimsonGetsu 1 month ago
@CrimsonGetsu
There is a difference between knife fighting and defending. It is nearly impossible to defend against a knife with bare hands. And as far as holding the knife... There is a way to hold the knife in martial arts and in this video doesn't show it. And I wont say it because Choson ninja will say he knew it.
sungninja 1 month ago
Wow I underestimated this guy Paul knowledge on stuff. i feel the same way he does, it's dangerous. he knows this stuff. i still disagree on his other video where he slap attacker in a bar disorient them.
hotpopcorncake 1 month ago
The martial arts of Greg are taekwondo and haokido.
And he adds Tate of the Japanese movie to it.
The basics of his Ninjya(ninjutu) are fiction.
Greg was actor choice.
taihuu25go 1 month ago
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Kungfumastertraining 1 month ago
@Kungfumastertraining Traditional martial arts (in Poland called also Dead martial arts sometimes) are called so, because they stopped "upgrading" some time ago. They are not about being as useful as possible, they are just piece of culture and tradition
TK1427 1 month ago
Excellent video.greg is a retard fantasy ninja wanabe THUMBS UP :)
MrCh1lll 1 month ago
face book shared
kiwirap 1 month ago
@micahel213 yes truth....and the kids can see what is the wrong and bad people try to do a "master"..good work! ^_^
SOJIOBO 1 month ago
Paul was my JKD/Kali teacher back in the day. I first met and trained with him in 1998 and became fully immersed in PFS. I was awarded my Full Instructorship from him back in 2003. This was before the new DOM direction he took PFS in. Paul was one of the most knowledgeable and interesting teachers I've had. If you want, you can see some of my home films training at his home in California on my channel. His knife material was absolutely top notch as well as his grappling and CQC skills.
WilltheWriter 1 month ago
so truth!!!....somebody stop the fake master
SOJIOBO 1 month ago
@SOJIOBO
He doesn't need to be stopped. We are very fortunate to have someone who has it in him to make every mistake known and more. That way we can point them out quite clearly for others to learn from. This is our way of sharing for free.
Micahel213 1 month ago