Motorcycle Practical Test Part 1 (Narrated) LEARN2RIDE

[moscowvespajoe]

At 2. 54 you approach parked cars on your side and say to perform procedure for parked cars , ie Right-hand lifesaver....but then you say indicator...which indicator? This is new to me, is this just for narrow streets with lots of parked cars or also for a single parked car? Thanks again.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@moscowvespajoe right indicator- on the video it is slightly misleading as the commentary is just ever so slightly out of sync with the video at that point.

DSA 'Riding The Essential Skills' states, 'Signal- if necessary' (Pg 119 Obstructions).

A few viewers on Youtube from the UK have said that they didn't have to indicate around parked vehicle(s) on their test.

[moscowvespajoe]

@learn2rideVIDEOS

thanks for the tip. If it's in the DSA guide, I'm guessing we shouldn't be marked down for doing it? It makes sense to do it..Thanks again.



[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@moscowvespajoe very welcome. There are a number of publications out there to help new riders. Some argue about how good / bad they are which is a matter of personal opinion but it'd do no harm to read , Learn To Ride All In ONE Book, THE OFFICIAL DSA GUIDE TO RIDING THE ESSENTIAL SKILLS, The Highway Code, Know Your Traffic Signs, Theory & Hazard Perception software & The New Motorcyclists Handbook. A lot of info & vids on the Learn2Ride Facebook page Notes section also.

[moscowvespajoe]

@learn2rideVIDEOS

Brillliant, will do. ( I'm struggling to finish Don Quixote so it will be a good break from that). :-[

[G00g284]

So when we are turning LEFT we do a RIGHT and LEFT hand lifesaver and when RIGHT you do just a RIGHT?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@G00g284 depends on the situation. Watch my my two videos, 'Why a right hand lifesaver when turning left?' and 'OSMPSL', have a think about it and then get back to me with any ideas.

[svengalie]

Like it

[suedog100]

Thanks for making these videos and responding to all my questions. I just passed my test today, watching them and your advice really helped me to progress!

Cheers

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@suedog100 Glad to hear it, well done and thank you! Consider your bike licence an early present from Santa 'cos you've been good all year LOL! :-)

The 'real learning' starts now Suedog100 so please have a look at the Learn2Ride Facebook page for a lot more info!

Just Google 'Learn2Ride Facebook'.

Congrats and well done Suedog, glad to have been of assistance.

Merry Christmas, ho - ho - ho!

Learn2Ride & family

[rawrrr546]

hi, im a 18 year old student in Northern Ireland. I was wondering, due to the introduction of this new CBT legislation in Northern Ireland that gives me 1 year to pass the motorbike test. Would i be exempt from the CBT if i had passed the theory test and module 1 before this date but not the on road module 2 test?

Many thanks

Ryan

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@rawrrr546 I suspect that you must pass all three parts of your motorcycle test (theory, offroad and onroad) in order to be exempt from CBT next Feb 2012. Will double-check to make sure and the easiest way for you to find out would be to simply ask the same question to the DVA. You can find the number in any internet search engine Ryan. (Why not please post the answer here also in case anyone else is in the same boat?)

[reef99red]

so in the uk you really need to indicate when doing the parked car procedure? Even if you do not leave your lane? Thank you

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

DSA 'Riding The Essential Skills' states, 'Signal- if necessary' (Pg 119 Obstructions).

[rawrrr546]

really well made and a great help! only recognised the place as derry when i saw the sign for strabane on the road lol. From Omagh and heading to coleraine for university and september and looking to start lessons very soon, but have a honda cbr125 that i am using at the moment. Video was a great help to know what kind of procedures i should be practising before i start lessons

Thanks

Ryan

Ryan

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@rawrrr546 thank you. Have a look at the other Learn2Ride videos such as 125cc (Pre-Test Training Fault Correction) for more tips and hints. New riders especially need all the help they can get Ryan

[rawrrr546]

@learn2rideVIDEOS Thanks ill have a look at the resources. Are there any instructors in the Coleraine area that you know of and would recommend?

Thanks

Ryan

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@rawrrr546 will send a message to your inbox Ryan

[cupmike]

Great Video

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@cupmike Thanks and why not check out parts 2 and 3 also? If you're on facebook search for 'learn2ride' on there: lots of good info in the Notes section.

[EmpireM8]

Great Video , Got my Module 2 on Wednesday and after watching all your videos I still am a little confused. When turning left I know to position left but do you left shoulder and right shoulder checks when turning

Cheers mate

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@EmpireM8 Yes if there is a danger of an overtaking vehicle cutting in front, a right lifesaver is sometimes necessary and if there is a possibility of a cyclist passing on the left, a left lifesaver is necessary

[1lord23]

Thank you so much for posting these vids. I passed my MOD2 yesterday down to the tips and advice from watching your videos! They are the most helpful Bike test videos on youtube! Thank you very much again

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@1lord23 You're very welcome.



[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@1lord23 Glad to hear it, well done and thank you.

[Scroobs]

Hello, indeed your vids are great. I'm a little confused about roundabouts, i.e if I were exiting at the 3rd exit on a roundabout would I be indicating right before reaching the roundabout and when would I cancel that signal?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@Scroobs yes that's correct -depending on the roundabout: normally you'd indicate your intention to turn right on approach with a right turn signal (to allow other road users plenty of time to react to your signals) then, after passing 12 O' clock and, after the exit before the one you wish to take, you would change lanes (after performing your necessary observations and signalling your intentions).

Sending you a quick message with a link to explain.

HTH?

[me007963]

Brilliant videos, thanks very much. Learnt more from these 5 minutes than my entire CBT. Feel much safer, more in control and more prepared for the test thanks to these videos.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@me007963 Glad to hear it. Please have a look at the rest of the practical test examples and, if you have any questions, ask away.

[AndyZ22SE]

One question I have is at 1:45 your left turn procedure. I am sitting my DAS part 1 this week and (hopefully) the part 2 next Wednesday. Ive been taught that a left turn would be: right mirror, left mirror, left indicator on, left shoulder check, move over to slightly left of centre, then a final left shoulder check before committing to the left turn. Are the examiners looking for different things in NI and mainland UK? Thanks for the excellent videos! Keep it up!

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@AndyZ22SE thanks mate. Theoretically the standard/ procedures required should be uniform all over the UK but, as I always point out in my videos, there can be differences from region to region & even from examiner to examiner. There is a great deal of argument about 'Look/ Signal/ Look', 'OSM/ PSL' or 'IPSGA' but, as long as you stick with the System that has been taught to you by your local, knowledgable instructor you should be fine.

For more info watch my vid 'Motorcycle Left Hand Turn' .

[H3aVyM3tALH3aD]

i dont ususally keep my foot on the back brake unless i am on a hill, i always put both feet down. on flat surfaces. and i never see bikers shoulder checking when moving off from red lights, ever.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@H3aVyM3tALH3aD if you want to keep doing that, it is your choice. Do you have a full licence? If you ride a 125cc hoping to move up, then covering the rear brake is standard practice in UK & a lifesaver over the right shoulder is for the guy on a GSXR 600cc (or whatever) who wants to overtake you at traffic lights, on a roundabout, before an overtake, etc., (as well as recommended by the Highway Code for all road users before moving away). Watch my '125 pre-test' video for more info. Thanks

[H3aVyM3tALH3aD]

@learn2rideVIDEOS i am a very safe rider and have been told so by advanced police riders, and to be honest the only time i dont shoulder check before moving of is at lights but i constantly check my mirrors and i always no what is behind me :), but thanks i will have a look at the rest of your videos, they are very helpful

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@H3aVyM3tALH3aD I am very glad to hear it, many riders omit lifesavers (& they are called 'lifesavers' for a reason)! Good to hear that police riders think you are a safe rider: i wonder how you were chatting to them? On a Bikesafe, perhaps? Or were you stopped for another reason? ;-)

Police Roadcraft (usually) dictates a Lifesaver (if necessary) between Gear & Acceleration stages. Mirrors are fine but do remember that lifesavers are called 'lifesavers' for a reason!

If in doubt, look about!

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@rossdotfraser thanks for commenting

[BodybuildingSteve]

i dont understand why he does a life saver to his right if his turning left? dont you only need to do a left lifesaver :?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@BodybuildingSteve have a look at this vid on my channel: 'Pre-practical test example- intermediate learner' and skip to 2.43, see what happens? I made a brief video also. Look on my channel for the video, 'Called LIFESAVER For A Reason' & read the description. It was taken from a pre-practical test lesson & the pupil went on to pass shortly after with just one minor fault (Meeting Traffic- although it was not related to this incident). Hope the vid helps

[BodybuildingSteve]

@learn2rideVIDEOS ok thanks alot mate

[hlolh7212]

How are you supposed to select first gear when your foot is on the rear brake?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@hlolh7212 Say, for example, you are waiting behind a car at a red light: when lights change, simply put your right foot down, left foot up to select the gear, then right foot back up again to cover the rear brake as you move off. (It is known as the 'Hendon Shuffle'). In this example, doing so gives the car in front time to move & thus you can have a quick scan of the road surface before you too move off- that car could be hiding a broken bottle, diesel spill, pothole etc..

Hope this helps.

[hlolh7212]

@learn2rideVIDEOS I take it when you are selecting first gear you grab the front brake? But thanks :)

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@hlolh7212 dependent on the road surface level at the time: if flat and even then there is no need to apply the front brake.

[ShreddingFish92]

Thank you for doing these videos, such an excellent resource for us noobies :)

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@ShreddingFish92 You're very welcome

[MysteriousVlogger]

Why do you need a right hand life saver when turning left?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@MysteriousVlogger have a look at this vid on my channel: 'Pre-practical test example- intermediate learner' and skip to 2.43, see what happens?

[MysteriousVlogger]

@learn2rideVIDEOS Wow, what a arsehole he gives bikers a bad name....

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@MysteriousVlogger it regularly happens- esp. at the approach to junctions,roundabouts & exits. Consider the number of motorists who travel, for example, in lane 2 or 3 on a motorway, trying to pass as many vehicles as possible- & then veer across a number of lanes to the slip road on the left? It even happens on dual carrigeways with only two lanes- so the point of the right lifesaver is to check for faster moving traffic in your blindspot that may be cutting in front of you. Hope this helps?

[MysteriousVlogger]

@learn2rideVIDEOS Yeh it does help me alot. I never thought of a right life saver when turning left. I now know why to do it.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@MysteriousVlogger I made a brief video for you. Look on my channel for the video, 'Called LIFESAVER For A Reason' & read the description. It was taken from a pre-practical test lesson & the pupil went on to pass shortly after with just one minor fault (Meeting Traffic- although it was not related to this incident). Hope the vid helps

[duckgeezer]

why keep both hands off levers?



[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@duckgeezer because in N.I. usually the examiner requires that the bike is in neutral when stationary (instead of holding the clutch lever in) and that the bike is held in position with the foot on the rear brake (instead of holding the front brake lever in).

[TheDuerden]

Shut up you idiot.

The whole point of the test is that it is NOTHING like riding a bike. No one rides a bike like they ride on the test, in exactly the same way that NO-ONE drives a car like they drive on the test.

Any driving test is not a test of your driving ability, it is a test of your ability to do what you are told for 30 minutes.

Since you were not born with the knowledge of what the DSA wants, instruction is necessary.

Pillock.

[acedrumminman]

I don't agree with neutral at anytime, right away your at a disadvantage for any unseen problem that may occur...

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

thanks for commenting acedrumminman and please explain why for the benefit of others who are taking their test?

[acedrumminman]

@learn2rideVIDEOS Objects in the world are constantly moving and shifting in space, I live in NYC, at ANY given moment you may be asked to accelerate forward from a standing stop, or lock out lft or rt to a quick turn, any delay from seeing the problem and moving away from it could spell disaster.I ride the friction zone in town here ALWAYS and more than once have had to make the unexpected maneuver to move out of harms way. You're most vulnerable here when you've stopped.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

good points & i agree

These videos are intended as a demonstration of the type of riding required for a standard motorcycle riding test in Northern Ireland (so everything has to be done 'by the book' so to speak): which means at traffic lights, left foot down, right foot on rear brake and bike in neutral.

then, when moving away safely, bike into gear, right lifesaver and pull away smoothly making balanced use of the throttle and clutch

thanks for commenting

[jaszczurkaburka]

Really good video, thanks for that

[BritishRider]

Thanks for this video I have my test on Friday. :)

[bikedemon99]

The unfortunate thing is when youve got your licence you only bother with lifesavers when you think you need them, you's know what I'm talking about here and we're all guilty of it

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

that's somewhat true which is why i stress checking your mirrors regularly and, if in any doubt, performing a lifesaver

thanks for commenting

[donkeydeakin]

can i just ask, whats a lifesaver? lmao

[Solarfactor]

A life saver is a rearward glance over your shoulder to check the blind spot that your mirrors do not cover.

If you're changing lanes it is important to perform a life saver because you can see the traffic coming from behind. You don't want to change lane and career into the path of a car or motorcycle. The point of a life saver when moving off from a stationary position is to check for cyclists/motorcyclists.

Life savers are called "life savers" for a reason.

[donkeydeakin]

ahhh yea i get it now, thanks alot :)

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

couldn't have put it better myself.

[ramirezzRK]

thanks, didn't know either...

[benbay001]

My instructor taught me- mirrors, signal, lifesaver, position in road, look, lifesaver, final look, go!

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

seems rather confusing..explain, where do you differentitate between a 'look', 'mirrors' and 'lifesaver'? where does the 'look' come in if not under 'mirrors' or 'lifesaver'? where exactly are you looking and for what exactly if not rearward observation?

did you pass?

if so, where?

in N.I.? or U.K?

[benbay001]

Hehe, Did i pass... sore subject, no i failed this morning due to leaving my indicator going and not giving way to a car already at a crossroads.. :( 10 days- and im from the UK

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

thanks and you're welcome.

remember, whilst some manoeuvres and principles are the same, there can be variations from region to region, so make sure to check with a local instructor in your area.

thanks for posting

[Premises187]

This is the greatest motorcycle practical information I've found on YouTube.

I will be doing my DAS very soon, I'm pretty sure this NI info will be fine for UK test use.

Thanks!

[TheGamesProdigy]

thanks bro

[TheGamesProdigy]

i get very nervous when im aobut to do my test. got any advice that could maybe calm me down because my heart rate really does go up ALOT!!

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

don't think of it as a test- think of it as a chance for you to demonstrate how good you are!

make sure you have a decent breakfast

arrive in good time and good health - being tired or having a heavy cold will do you no favours

make sure you can read a number plate from 20 metres away- have glasses or contact lenses with you if necessary.

try to remain calm and relaxed during the test, dont be afraid to ask the examiner to repeat an instruction if you don't hear it

just relax and breathe!!

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

for standard test when you come to a stop/move away, you have to do the 'hendon shuffle'

eg: come to a controlled stop in 1st gear using your right foot on rear brake & putting your left foot down first. then you have to put your right foot down (in order to change gear obviously) then put your right foot back on the rear brake.

still confused? just remember- keep your foot on rear brake when you stop/move off. the danger with changing into neutral before stopping is that the bike is coasting

[ufatimur]

Hi there , I am confused. Can I keep my right food on the ground when I am changing a gear ? or I have to put the neutral before I stop ?

[RubineBoy]

I am from Belgium and I wondered what you mean with "lifesaver"?

[RubineBoy]

I figured out you just want to say you have to look. I thought i was somehting you meant I didn't know off.

[gangsta078]

Ah another question i meant to ask, indicating round parked cars? do you just indicate to move out or keep the indicator on, i did learn this in my cbt but its slipped my mind now

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

basically both. indicate to move out and as you are passing the parked vehicle. after you pass the parked vehicle, cancel the indicator, check your left mirror and shoulder and change back to the original position. simple

[geoffart]

I was told specifically not to indicate to go around parked cars. but i see drivers doing it.

[geoffart]

thats strange. I was told not to use indecator for moving around parked cars; only to use lifesaver. The reason for this is that it can confuse other road users - apparently.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

you indicate for the benefit of other following road users so they know what you intend to do.

however when a car is parked next to a junction it can mislead following traffic that you are about to turn right.

in this case common sense must be exercised and the indicator cancelled at the earliest possible moment to prevent other vehicle drivers misreading your intentions. put for the standard test it is fine to indicate around parked cars to show the examiner you know the procedure

[weedwhackerman]

Only Indicate if others will benifit. from your signal.

[geoffart]

I have actually started to indicate if I find myself having to stop behind a parked vehicle to let another (oncoming) vehicle pass, to let vehicle behind know I'm pulling out and not stopping.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

give information through brake lights and signals to both vehicles in front AND behind!

good comment

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

thats right, good comment- but for the sake of your test, treat your examiner like following traffic.

(also consider a horn warning if someone is pulling out from the left, yet not looking in your direction. or dabbing the brakes to light up your rear lights to show a following vehicle that you're about to slow down eg: from a NSL to a 30mph zone)

simply take info around you, use that info and remember to GIVE that info (to following vehicles) to keep you safe!

[gangsta078]

you say to put it in neutral at lights, do you have to on your test? or does it not matter, just that my bike at the moment isnt easy to get into neutral, yeah its a 50cc and still not fully run in so its not amazing but i need to get into good habbits now if they will be checked on the test

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

think of it this way- if you are approaching traffic lights that are red for some time, chances are they will change so you can proceed.

However, if they are turning red whilst approaching them and will remain so for some time, then put the bike in neutral.

it also depends on the examiner on the day and if he/she will be looking for the 'hendon shuffle' -but i think it is really good that you are getting into the habit of doing things right now

[gangsta078]

ive seen and heard of too many biker being killed or injured on the roads so im determined to be a really good rider, and possibly become a police rider =]. ill get into this habit and thanks for the help ill probably have more questions in time after ive watched all your videos.

[RubineBoy]

Why is it better to put the bike in neutral?

[hughes111]

When standing still? To reduce the wear on the engine and clutch.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

it is dino mate- very observant of you!

setup is 2 dogcamsport/fastfilms cams front & rear attached with various clamps & arms from ram mount & fastfilms. hooked up to a solid state recorder (archos), variable gain mic & battery pack. the advantage of using the archos over other setups i have found is that i can pull over anywhere, press pause & show the pupil their riding up to that point on a large hgh-quality screen (about the size of your hand). its a handy setup dino mate.

[DinoDoesStuff]

Hello again, can you tell me what your camera set-up is? Do you record on solid state or tape? Is this the Stroke City circuit, had many a scoop and fallen over in this neck of the woods!