@BaconTV123 if you notice his attire, hes not dressed like a CF regular... odds are this guy works in a special forces tier of the canadian forces... so he probably carrys his rifle for backup if the SAW goes down
@101andrewj Actually, neither applies. He's likely only carrying both weapons for purposes of being on a Range exercise, and in what was termed Fighting Order. He's using the old 1982 Pattern webbing, and older raingear. This equipment dates back to before 2000, when the CF finally started phasing in Gore-Tex field kit and then the CADPAT camo pattern on all the combat uniforms. (I know; I was there.)
@101andrewj This guy isnt a special forces guy, He is just wearing the old kit. And in a combat situation you would never carry both because the ammo for one weapon weighs enough as it is. And its called the C9 not the SAW. Slightly different then the american version
@largerPOTATO its still called a saw tho, any machine gun is... and if he was a regular he would not be carring 2 different primary weapons, but its not uncommon for special operations forces to do that...
@101andrewj Actually your fucking Wrong. "SAW" is a gay ass american designation. Nowhere in the CF will you ever hear a C9 being called a "SAW", thats dumb. Its like calling a C7 a M16. Its not the fucking same and its wrong. And no he isn't special forces, he is just on the range to qualify for both the C7 and C9.
@largerPOTATO SAW stands for squad automatic weapon, it is american code but used unoffically in almost all NATO countrys to refer to any machine gun or machine gunner, even in the canadian forces, you still call a c6 or a c9 its proper name, but like a c7 is a assault rifle, a c9 is a SAW, its a category or class of weapon, not a actual weapon, the american SAW is actually a m249
@101andrewj No fuck face the Americans call the FN Minimi the M249 SAW. We call it a C9. And the C9 is used on a section level as a section support weapon. No other country that uses the FN Minimi regardless of local designation calls it a "SAW".
@101andrewj Its not and never will be. Ive never personally heard it called that in operation or training. Plus we don't even have squads in the CF. We have sections but not squads.
@BaconTV123 Its not a C7A2 its the C7A1. And he would just be carrying this because it looks wet out and the C7 gets rusty super easy, so its easier to keep it off the wet ground then to clean it a whole bunch later. Plus having rust on your weapon is a chargeable offence.
@BaconTV123 Because in the Canadian forces everyone in the army learns how to use the C6, C7, C9, M72 SRAAW, Carl G and grenades. Even cooks know how to use all those.
@McNabbFan0123 i dont think we ever use these weapons at all, but the m240. how about the m4, m14, m16, browning 50. cal, barrett 50. cal, m3a1, tompson,colt .45, 1941 johnson,browning automatic rifle,browning auto 5, m50 smg. and canadians? m1 grand (which was never used by the canadians) and the pattern 1914 which was a joke???? rofl.
@88pie88 oh ok so your police forces don't use the MP5 anymore? or Glocks? or Berettas? or Benelli? The vast majority of your police forces uses foreign weapons!
And by the way, our military uses weapons that are based off of american models, we didn't outright copy your weapons!
@McNabbFan0123 mp5 is going to be replaved with the KRISS, glock is a weapon that they personally buy them selfs. beretta still in active duty in united states military but soon to be replaced by the browning hi-power (i know its Belgium, but guess what it was the copy of the m1911 but put in 9mm) benelli is also in active duty, might be replaced by AA-12s (also american). btw i live in america im not american, im colombian/austrian.
The Desert Eagle was designed in the US, but it is manufactured in Israel
And do i have to add that one of the most popular known rifle and shotgun companies in the world known as Remington is from the US
,....so there's only a couple? i think not. But not to say that other countries don't have many weapons, because they do, and some better then others. But to say the US has less then most is pretty much dead wrong.
@88pie88 We dont really need to design our own weapons considering our military consists of about 75 000 people. It would be a waste of resources to develop a proprietary weapon, we only need to equip maybe 1/10th of those people with proper rifles, thus we can afford to equip those few troops with C7A2's, a vastly upgraded and superior rifle to the M4/M16s of the Americans.
@brokenpine284 The fact the SAS use them in small quantities isnt really a big deal. They only took our C8s and variants based on the heavier barrel. Other than that their standard kit is virtually identical to every other commonwealth unit. FN Minimi and C6/GPMG in the support role, same as us. The only difference is the Aussies carry AUG variants and the Brit regulars carry SA-80's.
True, but the point is that when given the choice of 5.56x45 rifles they didn't choose the SA-80, AUG, SIG 552, HK416, M16A4, etc. All touted as the next-best-thing in 5.56x45. More importantly, choosing the right barrel twist, weight, & length is a key ingredient in accuracy in all rifles, especially in ones that spit 5.56x45. Furthermore, it wasn’t some weekend warrior or want-to-be outfit that chose them, but arguably, the best of the best that did.
As well, I am also pretty sure many of their, and our, senior NCO’s who can still remember what a real rifle can do, would much rather have a L1A1 (C1A1) due the 7.62x51 superior terminal ballistics.
@brokenpine284 Ask any of the vets from the 80's that trained on the C1 then shifted to the C7. The 7.62 cartridge is (for good reason) sorely missed, The C1A1 and its dial-a-recoil gas system and notorious punishment of the shooter is not. There are much better 7.62 platforms available now that are much more kind to the guy pulling the trigger.
@brokenpine284 Gotta remember that the AUGs and SIGs arn't compatible with standard STANAG mags (without modifications) which would be a major turn off for a unit that routinely works with other countries. Also, the piston-driven AR variants like the HK416 are *expensive*. The C8 falls in the middle of the lot, its relatively cheap, accepts STANAG mags, it still has a gas impingement system but is more reliable than the M4. Its a compromise between the lot.
America junior....using another rip-off. First they steal our A.R.= (diemaco c-7) now our belgium made 249 minimi (saw) damn canucks! :) I am just kidding.I fought alongside several canadian royal soldiers and they are great soldiers and people as well:)
@benbangui want some bailey's? wanna go to a club where people wee on each other? what do you think of me? I like you...I'm gonna kill you:) lol good call.
i have to agree with socomsniper784. we should all stop arguing with each other about who has better camo, better weapons,etc,etc. we are all allies, can't we just all get along.
@socomsniper784 Some people can create large steriotypical arguments among nations, I am grateful to see people that are still decent in this world. Respect from Canada, grateful to all soldiers from all nations :)
@socomsniper784 thanks a lot for your support on canada. i hear a lot a shit from americans who don't even now the difference. i can tell you have been educated otherwise.
@socomsniper784 its good that you know that, but the fact remains, most americans, prob 8 out of 10, think canada doesnt even have a military, they forget that back in the world wars, canada was engaging in combat operations against germany, a real enemy, long before america, even tho canada was 15x smaller then america, and had the same relationship with its european creators... the americans have stepped it up sence then, but in the first half of the century, they wer pussys
@socomsniper784 I'm Canadian and i thank you for your respectful comment, and i can honestly say the same. pleasure being neighbour's with you, socomsniper784
#1 stop fucking making fun of eachothers countries because if you do thhat you are making fun of eachothers fallen soilders and if you do that you deserve to die and we never used american uniforms we have different design patterns and the C7 and C8 have significant differences
u no what they say, clothes dont make the man or something like that
u guys sounds like kids bitchin each others on what they got for christmas, but the thing is that u dont even posess what ur talkin about n its still very childish
@specops52 Yes the “green uni-bag" as one of my NCO's called it - makes a guy nostalgic - I remember the “long-dark-night”, when blank rounds were so scarce that you had to sometimes count-really-loud to 29 on advance to contact. I envy these young guys with all the shinny kit.
i don't care who copies who wat u do care about is that both countries get fully functional guns to defend them selves with so wat does it matter who copies who
c7 is good for what it is meant for. i fired 400 rounds before i started picking up any jams. the c9 is even sweeter, same 5.56 rounds, in a perfect compact light machine gun weapons system, the thing is sweet. (i've fired both) for sinco33, try shooting a machine gun and keeping steady dude, we mostly use prone to avoid that. and for special forces, jtf2 has recieved an American Presidential Citation for their work. They are a tier three elite force, last line of defence. cheers to the CF!
wow m16 vs c7 c7 will win :) m16 is alot heavier all metal c7 carbon fiber(which is stronger than metal) and metal lighter enhansed barrel so the c7 is more accurate and the velocity and sights are better:) yet people are still buying m16's....but it is only because they are cheap and the american hipocracy believes they are better at everything the are so self centered that is why i dislike america:)
why the fuck would you want a bigass machine gun? people buy M4A1s. not so much M16s. the M4A1 is made of the carbon as well. so its just as light, and can be used as a rifle or a CQB weapon.
and canada has a copycat M4 that they like to call "there own"
when they really didnt change that much.
personally id rather have an M4 in any enviroment than some big ass support weapon. haha.
and youre talking shit about America, when 99% of canadas equipment is American. see even they know its better
Do you have any idea how many firearms look like your so-called "M16/M4A1" yet function completely differently? The Canadian C7/C8 has over 100 improvements, best of which are a heavy high quality barrel that allows for sustained fully automatic fire. The reason the U.S. issued M16's are 3-round burst is because their barrels overheat.
Sure we may "copy" some of your ideas, but we then improve on them and make them better (CF-18 > F-18 is another example). We make do with the gear we have.
do a little research, 95-99 percent of canadas weapons, planes, vehicles etc are either designed or made in America.
take the CF-18 for example where is it made? AMERICA.
for all of you dumbfucks that think the CF-18 is better than the F-18, why not compare it to the version America uses, the F-18 superhornet. that thing will blow your shitty CF-18s out of the sky.
Oh, and Canada uses Humvees, thats just to name a few things that canada uses that are made in US. do research dumbass.
Our gear comes from overseas because unlike the US we dont have contractors designing our gear, and then overcharging us for it (whats the F35 up to? +40billion? to lockheed martin and hasn't seen on day of action). Cadpat, ACU, Marpat isnt made to look good its made to absorb IR signals to mess with NVGs, and your BDU's were'nt tested before distributed, and guess what they dont work. Go work on your trains
America pays alot for there stuff cuz its good. In not only our opinion, but tons of other countries, look at all the rich countries, they buy from us.
& we obviously dont need "working" BDUs to get the job done, were doing it just fine right now arent we?
America is the greatest country in the world at the moment, we are helping so many people.
& who cares if i like model railroading? its a hobby, everyones got one, so dont insult mine. you look very childish doing so.
Well in case you didnt know, the ARMY only uses the ACU. Airforce task forces wear Multicam.
Marines wear Desert Digital (or Desert Marpat) in Desert enviroments.
and the Marines use Woodland Digital in Woodland environments.
Navy doesnt need camo because theyre mainly on ships, but the Navy SEALs, and there task forces used to raid pirates ships wear what camo they feel would work best.
ACU, Desert Marpat, Woodland Digi, Navy Blue, Khaki Tan, you get the idea.
fyi half of canadas vehicals like troop transports LAVs and the weapons like the c6 are made by general motors canada and colt canada which are US owned companies.
and yall just bought a shit ton of strykers from us too.
america didnt fail when it made the acu. it works better than the spray painted uniforms you all had in astan. CF guys were borrowing our spray paint cans to paint their uniforms. plus our acus blend in with the trees and rocks real nice, and when dirty they work in the desert
CF-18 is basically the super hornet! how could you put them up against each other its impossible.
And for one the canadian army DOES NOT use Humvees, only the special forces that are working WITH the US special forces! WHICH IS AWESOME because you know what that means WE ARE ALLIES!!!!! no need to fight have a silly fight about this shit
well the JTF-2 doesn't work with americans alot only sometimes they do they are very independant and the gov does not giva any info about them which sicks and yeah our troop transports we are replacing in 2011 with a south african/brittish transport and yes we are allies so stop fighting
hahaha you're an idiot :P you don't think an american shooting the 249 SAW standing isn't the same reaction? they shoot the same 5.56mm round you dumbass
Canadian variants of weapons beat all the american ones they were based off of, heck, you'd have to wonder why the SEALs actually use the canadian C7 instead of the M16
the problem with american weaponry is they mass produce it and they fuck up in the longrun but canadian's we dont have the money to mass produce weapons so we get them right the first time then make some.
Sorry, by "I wonder" I just meant it in rhetoric manner. Anyway, I totally agree that the C7 is better. I had a chance to carry one at an air show and man, it felt nice! Solid, comfortable, and I liked the scope's cross-hairs. And of course the C7 is actually reliable
comfy, less stoppages (jams as some ppl call it) comfy, low recoil, easy to clean, fun to shoot, etc etc its just an all around amazing weapon lol
but for that sight... it could improve thats forsure.
its good for night because that little arrow in the center thats black at night turns green becuase of the gases but besides the point, firing in the rain the sight fogs up alot and dirt is on the lens etc etc its hard to clean when you gotta shoot, i prefer iron sight lol
In that case I prefer iron sights as well, what type of fixed sights do the C7s use? Because if it's the ghost ring type like the M16 then I would be a little sad. I just don't like them, I feel confined to a small field of view and the need to align the sights more then actually aiming at the target. But of course add-on sights can always be attached.
ohhh, sweet, so they're the optics provider. But my question was what iron-sights do the C7's have, though most often they are equipped with the Eclan sights as standard anyway....
Elcan produces the C79 so technically I'm not wrong but you're more correct. I see in your profile that you're in our military. So what's your opinion on the C7, does it jam often and is it reliable? I want to hear it from someone with personal experience.
We don't have the biggest army, but I tell you Canadian soldiers are the toughest in the world.
I was in a cadet corps when i was a kid, and we would go watch the friendly war games between american and canadian troops. We beat the americans with our older equipment. No disrespect to the USA at all, I'm just tired of the idea that Canadian soldiers are pansies and/or useless. Look into our military history, we Canadians have a proud and highly respected military background.
So you say the Canadians are the toughest in the world?
I guess you dont know SAS (Special Air Service) or BOPE then. BOPE are like SWAT x20. They enter the slums of Rio de janeiro to kill what ever gets in the way of their mission. When criminals see they have shoot one BOPE member they know if they dont disapear they are dead. Download the Movie "Tropa De Elite" and I promice you will change your mind.
You americans always think your soldiers are taff just because of some gay movies.Americans are bob-soldiers.SAS - WTF ? BOPE?whats bope ? sounds like a fart.
thats true and the american who gave him a thumbs down it doesn't surprise me you are all so self rightious in WW2 & 1 America relyed on Canada for talking many of their positions
and also this will piss you all off but Canada has a tiny military but in 2008&9 the UN voted Canada the worlds most RELIABLE and POWERFULL (remember we don't have nukes) military force on the earth and the americans were 8th and even in Afghanistan America rely's mainly on Canadians talk to any soilder who was in Afghanistan and they will tell you how much they NEED Canadians
why does he have a C9+C7A2?
BaconTV123 9 months ago
@BaconTV123 if you notice his attire, hes not dressed like a CF regular... odds are this guy works in a special forces tier of the canadian forces... so he probably carrys his rifle for backup if the SAW goes down
101andrewj 8 months ago
@101andrewj Actually, neither applies. He's likely only carrying both weapons for purposes of being on a Range exercise, and in what was termed Fighting Order. He's using the old 1982 Pattern webbing, and older raingear. This equipment dates back to before 2000, when the CF finally started phasing in Gore-Tex field kit and then the CADPAT camo pattern on all the combat uniforms. (I know; I was there.)
bluecollarcanuck 8 months ago
@101andrewj This guy isnt a special forces guy, He is just wearing the old kit. And in a combat situation you would never carry both because the ammo for one weapon weighs enough as it is. And its called the C9 not the SAW. Slightly different then the american version
largerPOTATO 5 months ago
@largerPOTATO its still called a saw tho, any machine gun is... and if he was a regular he would not be carring 2 different primary weapons, but its not uncommon for special operations forces to do that...
101andrewj 5 months ago
@101andrewj Actually your fucking Wrong. "SAW" is a gay ass american designation. Nowhere in the CF will you ever hear a C9 being called a "SAW", thats dumb. Its like calling a C7 a M16. Its not the fucking same and its wrong. And no he isn't special forces, he is just on the range to qualify for both the C7 and C9.
largerPOTATO 5 months ago
@largerPOTATO SAW stands for squad automatic weapon, it is american code but used unoffically in almost all NATO countrys to refer to any machine gun or machine gunner, even in the canadian forces, you still call a c6 or a c9 its proper name, but like a c7 is a assault rifle, a c9 is a SAW, its a category or class of weapon, not a actual weapon, the american SAW is actually a m249
101andrewj 5 months ago
@101andrewj No fuck face the Americans call the FN Minimi the M249 SAW. We call it a C9. And the C9 is used on a section level as a section support weapon. No other country that uses the FN Minimi regardless of local designation calls it a "SAW".
largerPOTATO 5 months ago
@largerPOTATO then i guess i was dreaming at my fqc, becasue that is what i was taught
101andrewj 5 months ago
@101andrewj what the fuck is fqc.
largerPOTATO 5 months ago
@largerPOTATO firearms qualification course
101andrewj 5 months ago
@101andrewj Lol. A Civilian instructor obviously told you wrong then. Never listen to civilian instructors when it comes to military weapons.
largerPOTATO 4 months ago
@largerPOTATO he was cf
101andrewj 4 months ago
@101andrewj He obviously had no idea what the fuck he was talking about. Probably a LOG guy i bet.
largerPOTATO 4 months ago
@largerPOTATO whatever, i still think saw could be and is used unofficially to describe any large capacity machine gun, and not just americas version
101andrewj 4 months ago
@101andrewj Its not and never will be. Ive never personally heard it called that in operation or training. Plus we don't even have squads in the CF. We have sections but not squads.
largerPOTATO 4 months ago
@BaconTV123 Its not a C7A2 its the C7A1. And he would just be carrying this because it looks wet out and the C7 gets rusty super easy, so its easier to keep it off the wet ground then to clean it a whole bunch later. Plus having rust on your weapon is a chargeable offence.
largerPOTATO 5 months ago
@largerPOTATO but why does he have both guns in the first place? if he has a LMG why does he have the rifle?
BaconTV123 5 months ago
@BaconTV123 Because in the Canadian forces everyone in the army learns how to use the C6, C7, C9, M72 SRAAW, Carl G and grenades. Even cooks know how to use all those.
largerPOTATO 5 months ago
@largerPOTATO i knew all that but..whats a SRAARW
BaconTV123 5 months ago
@BaconTV123 Short Range Anti-Armour Weapon
largerPOTATO 5 months ago
@largerPOTATO kk thanks
BaconTV123 5 months ago
canada is the shiz haha
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Vernon682 1 year ago
F$:K YWAH CANADA!!!
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85Decoy85 1 year ago
C7 Rifle is like m16 right?
PcGamerPaul 1 year ago
@PcGamerPaul yep, the C7 is an improved model of the M16.
SNeyePED 1 year ago
@SNeyePED It is the same thing as a colt 653, except it is made in Canada.
ufloetz 1 year ago
@PcGamerPaul This isnt the matrix, there still isn't a spoon.
5055672439 1 year ago
@PcGamerPaul its more like the m4 just has the iron sight of the m16
BlazingPie11 1 year ago
@PcGamerPaul Variation of the m16. It rarely jams. But personally I would rather pick the C8A1
Don123q 1 year ago
@PcGamerPaul C7a1 and C7a2 are M16a2 (.. MAde in canada by Colt Canada), C7 is better, it rarely Jam, it use 5.56x45mm NATO
skyfleet174 1 year ago
@skyfleet174 Also it performs better in cold tempatures..
MarineForceReconCorp 1 year ago
this aint canadian.. there is no c9
dallasstarskillerfan 1 year ago
@dallasstarskillerfan Canadian Forces C9 Light Machine Gun (LMG) 5.56mm. It's real.
ribtor 1 year ago
wait wtf
isnt the c9 a canadian verison of the m16
or is that c7?
NukeuNow 1 year ago
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wakenbake005 1 year ago
canadian m249
reallink2000 1 year ago
canadians, the only people who never come up with there own weapons.
88pie88 1 year ago
@88pie88 all those guns that you like and that are in you movies in hollywood, are they american?
Desert eagle = Israeli
MP5 = German
M240(FN Minimi) = Belgian
UZI = Israeli
All beretta firearms = Italian
All Glocks = Austrian
There are so many others I just cant name them all. America only invented a couple of guns from the ground up, so why did you make that comment?
McNabbFan0123 1 year ago
@McNabbFan0123 i dont think we ever use these weapons at all, but the m240. how about the m4, m14, m16, browning 50. cal, barrett 50. cal, m3a1, tompson,colt .45, 1941 johnson,browning automatic rifle,browning auto 5, m50 smg. and canadians? m1 grand (which was never used by the canadians) and the pattern 1914 which was a joke???? rofl.
88pie88 1 year ago
@88pie88 oh ok so your police forces don't use the MP5 anymore? or Glocks? or Berettas? or Benelli? The vast majority of your police forces uses foreign weapons!
And by the way, our military uses weapons that are based off of american models, we didn't outright copy your weapons!
McNabbFan0123 1 year ago
@McNabbFan0123 mp5 is going to be replaved with the KRISS, glock is a weapon that they personally buy them selfs. beretta still in active duty in united states military but soon to be replaced by the browning hi-power (i know its Belgium, but guess what it was the copy of the m1911 but put in 9mm) benelli is also in active duty, might be replaced by AA-12s (also american). btw i live in america im not american, im colombian/austrian.
88pie88 1 year ago
@McNabbFan0123
And how about these American guns:
The whole colt series
The Desert Eagle was designed in the US, but it is manufactured in Israel
And do i have to add that one of the most popular known rifle and shotgun companies in the world known as Remington is from the US
,....so there's only a couple? i think not. But not to say that other countries don't have many weapons, because they do, and some better then others. But to say the US has less then most is pretty much dead wrong.
patraicemery 1 year ago
@McNabbFan0123
All true but the M240 is the FN Mag,
The M249 is the FN Minimi
smclean1979 1 year ago
@88pie88 We dont really need to design our own weapons considering our military consists of about 75 000 people. It would be a waste of resources to develop a proprietary weapon, we only need to equip maybe 1/10th of those people with proper rifles, thus we can afford to equip those few troops with C7A2's, a vastly upgraded and superior rifle to the M4/M16s of the Americans.
PontoonTeek 1 year ago
@PontoonTeek
True, but as per norm, Canadians always tweek tools them to make them better. Look it up, the SAS chose our C-7/C-8's due to our modifications.
brokenpine284 1 year ago
@brokenpine284 The fact the SAS use them in small quantities isnt really a big deal. They only took our C8s and variants based on the heavier barrel. Other than that their standard kit is virtually identical to every other commonwealth unit. FN Minimi and C6/GPMG in the support role, same as us. The only difference is the Aussies carry AUG variants and the Brit regulars carry SA-80's.
PontoonTeek 1 year ago
@PontoonTeek
True, but the point is that when given the choice of 5.56x45 rifles they didn't choose the SA-80, AUG, SIG 552, HK416, M16A4, etc. All touted as the next-best-thing in 5.56x45. More importantly, choosing the right barrel twist, weight, & length is a key ingredient in accuracy in all rifles, especially in ones that spit 5.56x45. Furthermore, it wasn’t some weekend warrior or want-to-be outfit that chose them, but arguably, the best of the best that did.
brokenpine284 1 year ago
@brokenpine284
As well, I am also pretty sure many of their, and our, senior NCO’s who can still remember what a real rifle can do, would much rather have a L1A1 (C1A1) due the 7.62x51 superior terminal ballistics.
brokenpine284 1 year ago
@brokenpine284 Ask any of the vets from the 80's that trained on the C1 then shifted to the C7. The 7.62 cartridge is (for good reason) sorely missed, The C1A1 and its dial-a-recoil gas system and notorious punishment of the shooter is not. There are much better 7.62 platforms available now that are much more kind to the guy pulling the trigger.
PontoonTeek 1 year ago
@brokenpine284 Gotta remember that the AUGs and SIGs arn't compatible with standard STANAG mags (without modifications) which would be a major turn off for a unit that routinely works with other countries. Also, the piston-driven AR variants like the HK416 are *expensive*. The C8 falls in the middle of the lot, its relatively cheap, accepts STANAG mags, it still has a gas impingement system but is more reliable than the M4. Its a compromise between the lot.
PontoonTeek 1 year ago
@brokenpine284 Thats cool
PcGamerPaul 1 year ago
America junior....using another rip-off. First they steal our A.R.= (diemaco c-7) now our belgium made 249 minimi (saw) damn canucks! :) I am just kidding.I fought alongside several canadian royal soldiers and they are great soldiers and people as well:)
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emul96 2 years ago
its old greg... shooting a C9...
benbangui 2 years ago 19
@benbangui a scaly ole' man fish.
kalashnicough 2 years ago
@benbangui want some bailey's? wanna go to a club where people wee on each other? what do you think of me? I like you...I'm gonna kill you:) lol good call.
kalashnicough 2 years ago
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benbangui 2 years ago
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Fuck my grandpa invented the c9
huglge 2 years ago
You're belgian?
Ralroost 2 years ago
no im not im canadian
huglge 2 years ago
well then you're lying you stupid cunt. guess what i live in belgium the C9 was originally from belgium, you fail
camper182 2 years ago
minimi saw:belgium,
c9:canada
so fuck you
you fail
nuf said
ChiLLzDude 2 years ago
the C9 is a Minimi... the C9A1 is a Minimi with a rail on top... the only true Canadian Varient of the Minimi is the C9A2.
Thanato26 1 year ago
this is name of canadian version analogy:
M16 = Canadian C7 ...
mar00223 1 year ago
i have to agree with socomsniper784. we should all stop arguing with each other about who has better camo, better weapons,etc,etc. we are all allies, can't we just all get along.
smoosh1234 2 years ago
Why are you guys arguing about America and Canada?
Both are great nations, and great allies.
You cant deny that.
I would proudly serve with soldiers from either countrys.
I myself am an American, and I have alot of respect for our Canadian friends.
Hell, theyve been in almost every major conflict we have, there even with us in Afghanistan.
socomsniper784 2 years ago 49
lol thats so corect
jipi0001 2 years ago
@socomsniper784 Some people can create large steriotypical arguments among nations, I am grateful to see people that are still decent in this world. Respect from Canada, grateful to all soldiers from all nations :)
PaintballForEver1000 1 year ago
@socomsniper784 Hell yes my brother! I'm Canadian and I love you americans. Together we kick ass!
thegtmable1 1 year ago
@socomsniper784 yeah cuz u guys blackmail canada
and force em to go to war
NukeuNow 1 year ago
@socomsniper784 thanks a lot for your support on canada. i hear a lot a shit from americans who don't even now the difference. i can tell you have been educated otherwise.
leafs273 1 year ago
@leafs273 Well you should learn to spell know its know know not now.
KestrelVoron 1 year ago
@socomsniper784 i respect u man
dallasstarskillerfan 1 year ago
@socomsniper784 its good that you know that, but the fact remains, most americans, prob 8 out of 10, think canada doesnt even have a military, they forget that back in the world wars, canada was engaging in combat operations against germany, a real enemy, long before america, even tho canada was 15x smaller then america, and had the same relationship with its european creators... the americans have stepped it up sence then, but in the first half of the century, they wer pussys
101andrewj 1 year ago
@socomsniper784 i canadien and agree whit you bud when one mess out he can count on the other thats what allied is for
blasseron 1 year ago
@socomsniper784 well said :)
2J8O4S6H9 1 year ago
@socomsniper784 They also aided us after the 9/11 attack so i would never judge them
hatys4 1 year ago
@socomsniper784 I'm Canadian and i thank you for your respectful comment, and i can honestly say the same. pleasure being neighbour's with you, socomsniper784
CBxLaybz 9 months ago 2
#1 stop fucking making fun of eachothers countries because if you do thhat you are making fun of eachothers fallen soilders and if you do that you deserve to die and we never used american uniforms we have different design patterns and the C7 and C8 have significant differences
fluffylizard97 2 years ago 4
nice gun
why r u guys arguing about military equipment
u no what they say, clothes dont make the man or something like that
u guys sounds like kids bitchin each others on what they got for christmas, but the thing is that u dont even posess what ur talkin about n its still very childish
jipi0001 2 years ago 3
"Clothes do, in-fact, make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." - Mark Twain.
Lol
Wags182494 2 years ago
well i dont know any1 whod go in afghanistan with a tuxedo
lol
jipi0001 2 years ago
mmm i cant wait to shoot that nig. and where the hell is all the recoil lol
dynamicDAVE519 2 years ago
ahhhhhhh back in the day whne we were issued OD green and when CADPAT was just coming into service
specops52 2 years ago
@specops52 Yes the “green uni-bag" as one of my NCO's called it - makes a guy nostalgic - I remember the “long-dark-night”, when blank rounds were so scarce that you had to sometimes count-really-loud to 29 on advance to contact. I envy these young guys with all the shinny kit.
brokenpine284 1 year ago
C9 made in Canada - Since when !!!
hcanuck7 2 years ago
It's not. Its made in Belgium
moneymikey 2 years ago
Since when, as in - never made in Canada.
hcanuck7 2 years ago
70% of all small arms used by US army = made by FN herstal
jipi0001 2 years ago
i saw the same add in a magazine lol
Tyler50BMG 2 years ago
i don't care who copies who wat u do care about is that both countries get fully functional guns to defend them selves with so wat does it matter who copies who
krazyslayer1991 2 years ago
c7 is good for what it is meant for. i fired 400 rounds before i started picking up any jams. the c9 is even sweeter, same 5.56 rounds, in a perfect compact light machine gun weapons system, the thing is sweet. (i've fired both) for sinco33, try shooting a machine gun and keeping steady dude, we mostly use prone to avoid that. and for special forces, jtf2 has recieved an American Presidential Citation for their work. They are a tier three elite force, last line of defence. cheers to the CF!
driverv86 2 years ago
wow m16 vs c7 c7 will win :) m16 is alot heavier all metal c7 carbon fiber(which is stronger than metal) and metal lighter enhansed barrel so the c7 is more accurate and the velocity and sights are better:) yet people are still buying m16's....but it is only because they are cheap and the american hipocracy believes they are better at everything the are so self centered that is why i dislike america:)
yahmahadrummer 2 years ago
why the fuck would you want a bigass machine gun? people buy M4A1s. not so much M16s. the M4A1 is made of the carbon as well. so its just as light, and can be used as a rifle or a CQB weapon.
and canada has a copycat M4 that they like to call "there own"
when they really didnt change that much.
personally id rather have an M4 in any enviroment than some big ass support weapon. haha.
and youre talking shit about America, when 99% of canadas equipment is American. see even they know its better
bnsfmodeler343 2 years ago
Actually...our only american weapon is the M72. The C6 is made in Belgium, C9 and C7 made in Canada. Research your shit before you shit talk buddy
kawasakipolaris 2 years ago
i said Canda COPIES a lot of American weapons.
CF-18
C7 and its variants are based off of the American M16/M4A1 style weapons.
and theres much more that they copied.
so you do a little research. "buddy"
bnsfmodeler343 2 years ago 2
Do you have any idea how many firearms look like your so-called "M16/M4A1" yet function completely differently? The Canadian C7/C8 has over 100 improvements, best of which are a heavy high quality barrel that allows for sustained fully automatic fire. The reason the U.S. issued M16's are 3-round burst is because their barrels overheat.
Sure we may "copy" some of your ideas, but we then improve on them and make them better (CF-18 > F-18 is another example). We make do with the gear we have.
Xero852 2 years ago
you just said that 99% of canadian equipment is american...dont start a fight you cant win
kawasakipolaris 2 years ago
do a little research, 95-99 percent of canadas weapons, planes, vehicles etc are either designed or made in America.
take the CF-18 for example where is it made? AMERICA.
for all of you dumbfucks that think the CF-18 is better than the F-18, why not compare it to the version America uses, the F-18 superhornet. that thing will blow your shitty CF-18s out of the sky.
Oh, and Canada uses Humvees, thats just to name a few things that canada uses that are made in US. do research dumbass.
bnsfmodeler343 2 years ago
He is SADLY right. That is what our stupid politicians are up to. Rank stupidity.
Remember the ARROW!
hcanuck7 2 years ago
C6-9=Canada/Belgium,
CGustav, Eryx=Germany/France
Leopard=Germany,
CADPAT=Canada (America failed with there knockoff ACU),
Coyotes= Australia,
CH-146= Canada
CF-18=US (same plane as F-18)
So as for 95-99%...
moneymikey 2 years ago
moneymikey,
that right there proves that Canada cant use there own stuff, at least most of Americas stuff is made, and designed in AMERICA.
Canadas got stuff from EVERYWHERE.
How did the ACU fail? It looks a hell of a lot better than the CADPAT. and the Multicam looks better than both. Where is multicam designed? AMERICA.
And you only listed stuff from other countries, not everything you use from America, so nice try.
bnsfmodeler343 2 years ago
Our gear comes from overseas because unlike the US we dont have contractors designing our gear, and then overcharging us for it (whats the F35 up to? +40billion? to lockheed martin and hasn't seen on day of action). Cadpat, ACU, Marpat isnt made to look good its made to absorb IR signals to mess with NVGs, and your BDU's were'nt tested before distributed, and guess what they dont work. Go work on your trains
moneymikey 2 years ago
moneymikey,
America pays alot for there stuff cuz its good. In not only our opinion, but tons of other countries, look at all the rich countries, they buy from us.
& we obviously dont need "working" BDUs to get the job done, were doing it just fine right now arent we?
America is the greatest country in the world at the moment, we are helping so many people.
& who cares if i like model railroading? its a hobby, everyones got one, so dont insult mine. you look very childish doing so.
bnsfmodeler343 2 years ago
@bnsfmodeler343 Dude both ACU's And CADPAT looks awesome and as an Canadian I love the US awesome there .
Both Countrys are awesome and great allies
And the Canadian forces are only in Afghanistan because the US was attacked (Sept.11 Attacks) and if canada was attacked the US would help.
:)
PcGamerPaul 1 year ago
Your ACU did fail because the whole point of CADPAT was to look digitalized. and CADPAT looks more digitalized than ACU
Sindwen 2 years ago
Well in case you didnt know, the ARMY only uses the ACU. Airforce task forces wear Multicam.
Marines wear Desert Digital (or Desert Marpat) in Desert enviroments.
and the Marines use Woodland Digital in Woodland environments.
Navy doesnt need camo because theyre mainly on ships, but the Navy SEALs, and there task forces used to raid pirates ships wear what camo they feel would work best.
ACU, Desert Marpat, Woodland Digi, Navy Blue, Khaki Tan, you get the idea.
bnsfmodeler343 2 years ago
fyi half of canadas vehicals like troop transports LAVs and the weapons like the c6 are made by general motors canada and colt canada which are US owned companies.
and yall just bought a shit ton of strykers from us too.
america didnt fail when it made the acu. it works better than the spray painted uniforms you all had in astan. CF guys were borrowing our spray paint cans to paint their uniforms. plus our acus blend in with the trees and rocks real nice, and when dirty they work in the desert
baseballbadman 2 years ago
the CADPAT uniforms are better than ACU. ACU is useless. MARPAT is way better too
SasquatchMan118 2 years ago
your stryker is actually based of our LAV III, we never bought strykers of the US. and the LAV'S
are manufactured by general dynamics, not general motors.
sniwy 2 years ago
CF-18 is basically the super hornet! how could you put them up against each other its impossible.
And for one the canadian army DOES NOT use Humvees, only the special forces that are working WITH the US special forces! WHICH IS AWESOME because you know what that means WE ARE ALLIES!!!!! no need to fight have a silly fight about this shit
bobdole92 2 years ago 3
well the JTF-2 doesn't work with americans alot only sometimes they do they are very independant and the gov does not giva any info about them which sicks and yeah our troop transports we are replacing in 2011 with a south african/brittish transport and yes we are allies so stop fighting
fluffylizard97 2 years ago
Army/C6,C7,C8,C9,Gustauv rocket munition,Howitzer 88mm artillery battery,M11A3 M.S.,G-wagon,Coyote L.A.V. and Schwarzkopf tank. (the leopard)
Airforce/Planes/Jets/CC-115, CT-142DB,CT-155,CC-150,CP-140, CC-144, CC-177,CT-156, CC-138.
Airforce/Army Heli-copters/CH-146, CH-149, CH-124.
All German or Belgium engineered my friend, but, we but we do use the AC-130 and F-18.
sheenydonut 2 years ago
I'm in the Reserves.
sheenydonut 2 years ago
this guy is all over the place shoooting this weapon!! i dnt like this canadian shit
sinco33 2 years ago
hahaha you're an idiot :P you don't think an american shooting the 249 SAW standing isn't the same reaction? they shoot the same 5.56mm round you dumbass
imagoruckus69 2 years ago
agreed. A lot of firepower=alot of recoil. I would like to see sinco33 shoot that weapon and hold some sort of a grouping lmao!
jimmymac63 2 years ago
Canadian variants of weapons beat all the american ones they were based off of, heck, you'd have to wonder why the SEALs actually use the canadian C7 instead of the M16
Chinchilliott 2 years ago
They use the C7 because its better.
the problem with american weaponry is they mass produce it and they fuck up in the longrun but canadian's we dont have the money to mass produce weapons so we get them right the first time then make some.
ben12342666 2 years ago 2
Sorry, by "I wonder" I just meant it in rhetoric manner. Anyway, I totally agree that the C7 is better. I had a chance to carry one at an air show and man, it felt nice! Solid, comfortable, and I liked the scope's cross-hairs. And of course the C7 is actually reliable
Chinchilliott 2 years ago 2
C7 is like sex lmao.
comfy, less stoppages (jams as some ppl call it) comfy, low recoil, easy to clean, fun to shoot, etc etc its just an all around amazing weapon lol
but for that sight... it could improve thats forsure.
its good for night because that little arrow in the center thats black at night turns green becuase of the gases but besides the point, firing in the rain the sight fogs up alot and dirt is on the lens etc etc its hard to clean when you gotta shoot, i prefer iron sight lol
ben12342666 2 years ago
In that case I prefer iron sights as well, what type of fixed sights do the C7s use? Because if it's the ghost ring type like the M16 then I would be a little sad. I just don't like them, I feel confined to a small field of view and the need to align the sights more then actually aiming at the target. But of course add-on sights can always be attached.
Chinchilliott 2 years ago
The C7s use the elcan sight
Boneyman 2 years ago
ohhh, sweet, so they're the optics provider. But my question was what iron-sights do the C7's have, though most often they are equipped with the Eclan sights as standard anyway....
Chinchilliott 2 years ago
C7 uses the C79 optical sight.....
ben12342666 2 years ago
Elcan produces the C79 so technically I'm not wrong but you're more correct. I see in your profile that you're in our military. So what's your opinion on the C7, does it jam often and is it reliable? I want to hear it from someone with personal experience.
Boneyman 2 years ago
yes, i am a class a reservist and my opinion on the C7 is that its amazing.
its really reliable.
doesnt jam often and if it does its rare. theres only three possibilitys
bolt fully back (empty mag)
bolt fully forward (mag not seated properly)
bolt partially forward (double feed or something)
easy to fix easy to maintain
i love it lol
ben12342666 2 years ago
The C7's are of better build quality than the M16
NapalmSabbathChains 2 years ago 3
you said comfy twice :)
diablomongoose 2 years ago
We don't have the biggest army, but I tell you Canadian soldiers are the toughest in the world.
I was in a cadet corps when i was a kid, and we would go watch the friendly war games between american and canadian troops. We beat the americans with our older equipment. No disrespect to the USA at all, I'm just tired of the idea that Canadian soldiers are pansies and/or useless. Look into our military history, we Canadians have a proud and highly respected military background.
NapalmSabbathChains 2 years ago
So you say the Canadians are the toughest in the world?
I guess you dont know SAS (Special Air Service) or BOPE then. BOPE are like SWAT x20. They enter the slums of Rio de janeiro to kill what ever gets in the way of their mission. When criminals see they have shoot one BOPE member they know if they dont disapear they are dead. Download the Movie "Tropa De Elite" and I promice you will change your mind.
AbsolutNaPaLm 2 years ago
ever heard of JTF?
NapalmSabbathChains 2 years ago
You americans always think your soldiers are taff just because of some gay movies.Americans are bob-soldiers.SAS - WTF ? BOPE?whats bope ? sounds like a fart.
mg42GR 2 years ago
BOPE's in South fucking lame shit America that isn't even america.
dvdhaxor 2 years ago
Not only do Americans think we have the best soldiers. So does 80% of the world. Otherwise they wouldnt ask us for help if something happens.
all you shit talkers hate America until your country needs help, then your on your knees begging us for help and money.
moron
bnsfmodeler343 2 years ago
thats true and the american who gave him a thumbs down it doesn't surprise me you are all so self rightious in WW2 & 1 America relyed on Canada for talking many of their positions
yahmahadrummer 2 years ago
and also this will piss you all off but Canada has a tiny military but in 2008&9 the UN voted Canada the worlds most RELIABLE and POWERFULL (remember we don't have nukes) military force on the earth and the americans were 8th and even in Afghanistan America rely's mainly on Canadians talk to any soilder who was in Afghanistan and they will tell you how much they NEED Canadians
yahmahadrummer 2 years ago
yeah 'cause that really happened. What has canada got to show for their military power?
PickofDestiny08 2 years ago
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That's a load of bull crap. Freaken Canadians free loaders...
Savageliferaul 2 years ago
I fuckin LOVE the C9!!
bassblair11 2 years ago
canadians have their own guns :O
MikeyisNinja 3 years ago
ya think? Your Canadian C9 is nothing more than a Belgian FN Minimi ;) Same with the M249 SAW = FN Minimi
LavishBeats 3 years ago
kinda useless to stand up and shoot with a machine gun :P
z3roo0 3 years ago
thats why they only teach you to do that on a sergeants course
krossco 2 years ago
is that fully auto or semi auto?
crat55 3 years ago
fully auto
standby90 3 years ago
what do you think =|
Ishfulness 3 years ago
lol
Pernell96728 3 years ago
If that's a semi then he's got damn fast twitch muscle fibers in his fingers!
thehappyinsomniac 3 years ago
its Semi Auto duh!
his girlfriend loves him for obvious reasons...
SF18BRAV0 3 years ago
short burts and no jams on this one
SS13E3 3 years ago
19 seconds or pure awsomeness.
Joebobzilla 3 years ago
Canadian/US weapons = EPIC WIN...why can't our MoD buy them to replace our SA80s =[...M16 Colts fucking rock..
throughadversity 3 years ago
I like your SA80 carbine. L22 I think he called it. My C7's alright, but that carbine was something awesome
marcoperez4 3 years ago
you cant fire a colt under water tho :) hk416 ftw :)
riverdave7 3 years ago
that is the original storm rifle!
SS13E3 3 years ago
c9 is a m249 right?
phungsta 3 years ago
canadian version we have our own version of just about every gun
FRIZZBI07 3 years ago
U mite be interested to know that the Aussies and New Zealand military use ur C9 Minimis.
ginjaninja1988 3 years ago
ye i know im jsut saying we make our varients
FRIZZBI07 3 years ago
yes is a FN M249 , but we changed his name for C-9.
C7FT = M16
C8 = M4
C9 = M249
C6 = MAG
Jimderkaisser 3 years ago
Canadian C9 = FN Minimi
M249 SAW = FN Minimi
vVogeltjes 3 years ago 2
Another great weap they produced is the F2000.
Fle0natic 3 years ago
Both the C9 and the M249 are actually localised Belgian FN Minimi.
vVogeltjes 3 years ago