Amazing performance by Nima. My only gripe is that I wish the editors spent more than 2 or 3 seconds before switching between shots and instead focused on just her bowing for a good while, or just the left hand.
I absolutely LOVE this piece!! And the performer's expressive mastery keeps me coming back for repeat listens. I think I want to play this instrument . . .
The frets on a viola da gamba are made out of gut. They are moveable--you can slide them up and down to achieve perfect intonation. Nima Den David's expression and musicianship are outstanding!!
@swizzle2012 They are frets, made from gut. But contrary to instruments that use metal frets, you have to press ON the fret itself. It's really not that bad. you have the fret folded in two and looped against itself, so you press in between the two strands, that are closely together. But it is somewhat different from guitar.
@JLMoriart yes, finger bends the string instead of sliding.. but that takes out part of the exprecion, and the note de-tunes only up from the standard pitch as you bend it, never down
Such a true musician; one who feels and embodies the music. This performance is nothing but perfection. Her expressions and phrasing are so fitting, making the piece such a wonder to hear...
I notice more expression in Nima's eyes than face and it seems natural to me. I don't find anything exaggerated. If music tells a story like opera except w/o the text and the performer embodies the spirit and narrative of the music then I would expect this to be reflected in the face. How would you like an opera soloist with no facial expression? Or is this like tattoos and piercings as well? Never mind that many tattoos and piercings are hidden and not for public display.
It starts on WKO 205, which is the arpeggiato prelude, and the whole suite is in d. I play the Gamba but never dig into catalog numbers or so. Thanks a lot for the information you gave. WKO 208... Ok, now, where can I buy the score? It has always been a hassle to find Gamba scores. I may trancribe it by ear, but it won't be what Abel EXACTLY wrote... Thanks again!
Wow...she is amazing. Wonderful music. Beautiful instrument. I came here out of curiosity about the viola da gamba. Had never seen one. Wonderful wonderful. Thank you to performer and poster.
La expresión facial de esta dama es un lamento, como la música, atenazado de dulzura. Casi se diría que su cuerpo se adueña del instrumento, y a ratos el instrumento se adueña de la intérprete. Esta simbiosis se revela en la expresión de su cara.
She is in the zone. People just get into a place where they are totally concentrated, and they don't have any attention on their facial expression. Everyone has a different expression when they are in the zone, they have no control over it, everything is given over to playing the instrument.
@kolopaper123 They are generally gut strings. But these days the can be made out of perlon, a nylon type material. The way they do it is they take several strands of the material, and then wrap it with either nickel or aluminum, so they look as if they were metal, but the core of the string is perlon. Nima is probably using real gut (sheep) strings here, as that is what most people at her level (professionals) use. They are not as stable as perlon, but they have great tone.
this is an extremely old video of Ms David playing viol. She has gone through a lovely transition since then - short hair, pretty face....it is almost like this is another person playing! But the artistry and skill are still there....there is no doubt this is Nima Ben David. Look at her bow hand -- she has a perfect position. Check out her video Rameau - Pieces de clavecin en concert #3 - see what she looks like "now."
I fail to see how Nima Ben David's facial expressions have anything to do with her playing. In an age where pierced body parts and facial tattoos seem to be commonplace, it seems to me that her facial expressions are incidental to her astonishing virtuosity and astonishing musicianship. I have played the bass viola da gamba for 5 decades and I wish I had played just one day of that time with the musicianship and virtuosity she expresses with such grace and control.
@profaltelehrer LOL! Yeah, ...In an age where pierced body parts and facial tattoos... LOL! Although she was making a funny face, I rather take her than a prettier woman with tattoos and piercing all over her face. Her facial expressions just shows how into the music she is.
The contrast procuced by the expression on her face and the beatiful sound she gets from the viola is quite funny. It seems something is wrong with her, like she is not in mood of playing... But she is amazing! I'd like to play like that!
@JeanEmanuel In contemporary music this is called a "guitar face: The act of making an unusual face while playing the guitar. The look typically resembles a look of pain, intense ecstacy, or sometimes even plain old gas." Reference Mick Ronson or K. K. Downing.
why don't you pick up a ruby gamba? play some rock. I play classical guitar and I like to show off what I can do with an electric guitar. It's awesome.
@serenaskye Yeah and having a fancy shmancy video camera helps, LOL! That lady really needs to shut her mouth, LOL! Beautiful playing anyways, but when it comes to that instrument, it looks new and I thought I heard a few squeaking noises from it.
The title says "WKO 205", the caption says "WKO 207", but isn't this actually the "Moderato" WKO 208? Apart from that, thank you for sharing this video.
I love the expressions on her face! I think she's the first string player I've seen who makes faces while playing music. Most band kids that I know make faces, but not very many orchestra kids. None of the above is meant in a bad way! I love this kind of music, it is very beautiful!
@KiyoKenshin hmmm, there are so many examples of classical musicians who love making faces. itzhak perlman, yo yo ma, lang lang, maxim vengerov, gil shaham, ... virtually everyone, really.
@ mzrequiem: yo dije que el contrabajo viene de la viola da gamba, no que la viola da gamba viene del contrabajo, no seas estupido. Acaso sabes leer ? o solo sabes criticar los comentarios de los demas... lo que si estoy seguro esque no sabes ingles.... por cierto, tu video de evanescence es de lo mas intelectual !! sigue asi !!!
@mzrequiem Beethoven was one of the first romantic composers, many of his piano sonatas are what i would call the definition of romanticism, some of his last string quartets actually surpass romanticism and verge on sounding modern, also Brahams is spelled Brahms. I get the feeling that you dont actually have a clue what your talking about
Sorry, I wasn't downing the music. I make weird faces when I play violin, so I always wonder what people are thinking when they make faces while they play.
Hey everybody, I play the cello and I am thinking about buying a da gamba just for a little thing on the side, will the transition be hard? How big is the difference between the two? WHat is the tuning? Thanks :)
nope. apart from construction, tuning, and certain rep there's not much different aside from bowings. the strong bow is a push and the weak bow a pull. instead of 5ths you've got 4ths with a major 3rd in the middle. esentially it's a bowed lute, you can't go wrong with fretts :D
In addition, you press on the fret itself, not behind the fret like guitarists do. Also, because the frets are movable, you can adjust the tuning and play with mean-tone temperaments. The tension on the bow is not adjustable, so you have to control that with your fingers as you are playing.
such a delight to listen to the mastery of this most extra ordinary instrument ... the weariness of life circumstances transformed by this music of Abel .... and this mysterious charmer Nima Ben David
You see, that is just what's wrong with the people here. " If you don't play Paganini you don't play". What kind of moronic comment is that. Anyone can play. Not everyone can interpret a piece. That requires musicianship, not virtuosity.
Well if all you listen to is rap, rock, metal or even country, it may seem like noise. But this is actually great music. More music than anything being played in the radio today.
@UncleTito72 Don't generalize Metal or you will be sounding just like the dump ppl who don't understand this kinda of song...
metal is Great, and Big, tehre are many Metal operas and great musician, tehre are many Death Metal composers who actually listen to classical songs and even have played a role in orchestras...
@UncleTito72 It doesn't seem like noise to me. But i listen to classical indian music. Most musicologists believe this to be the most mathematically superior music genre of them all. It is also much more in tune and sophisticated than western music. I wouldn't be so quick to put down other genres. Although I dislike rap and metal, I think classic 60's and 70's rock is nice, but I mainly listen to Indian music.
@chocolatedonut31 Thank you, I needed a good laugh. But seriously, you ought read a little on polyphony, specifically the fugue; better yet, try writing one . . . two-part counterpoint shall suffice, and it needn't much length.
@UncleTito72 Many metal players actually Do like Baroque/Early music. Behind the volume and distorion many metal songs have classical-like structures in them. Granted, your average 18 yr old metal head may not ba able to appreciate this.
Brian May was on NPR today and the thought occurred to me that Bohemian Rhapsody would go very well on a Viola da Gamba consort. Most of Queen's songs have an air of Bach and Handel about them.
This is because you are of a time and people who do not VALUE subtle venues where police cars aren't positioned outside. Yet intimate settings were the gambas' home. They served as an instrumental, bowed chorus and later as solo instruments as well. And all of your violin family instruments were heavily modified from their original state. But from the videos you saved, maybe a stick, an emptied watermelon or forty-ouncer shell is all that you'll need to get the kind of music you enjoy.
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And i do VALUE music not noise from this thing this is just noise not music. i know music i have played the guitar violin and currently playing the cello.
And i do VALUE music not noise from this thing this is just noise not music. i know music i have played the guitar violin and currently playing the cello.
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are you stupid!!!!!! viola de gamb'ass' are stupis worthless boxes that dont work for anything!!!!!!!!! a cello and a viola are a million times better than this piece of crap. They should have never invented a viola de gamba. Who ever invented it should have never been born!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone that plays this creature!!!! (:
This becomes more beautiful each time I listen to it - and it is more apparent what a masterful performance this is. Not only are we listening to music played on an instrument that effectively went extinct after the Renaissance, but we are hearing a musician who plays Abel's music in a way that expresses both passion and sensitivity. Not to mention, this live performance holds up against any studio recording.
@EricCVorst Where'd you get the idea the viol "effectively went extinct after the Renaissance"? The Renaissance ended around 1600, but gamba was used as a melody instrument. in the 1600s thru early 1700s and as a continuo instrument up to the early 19th century. The composer of this piece, Karl Abel, was a business partner of one Bach's 11th son, Johann Christian Bach, the famous "London Bach". Abel's father was the gamba teacher of Bach's Coethen employer, Prince Leopold.
@wcbroccoli I got the idea that it "effectively went extinct after the Renaissance" because it did. I didn't say it went *totally* extinct, but *effectively* went extinct. I never said people stopped playing it, nor did I say composers stopped writing music for it.
The point of my post was to praise the performance not to discuss history. My comments regarding its fading popularity after the Renaissance were reasonably accurate.
What an odd thing for you to comment on regarding my post ...
@wcbroccoli First of all "effectively" has a number of different meanings and I have told you what I intended with my use of the word: which was "virtually".
Your problem is that you are misreading what I wrote. You incorrectly think I said it went extinct immediately at the end of the Renaissance. I did not say that. I said it effectively went extinct after the Renaissance.
Since you had trouble understanding what I originally wrote, I explained it to you further. Please read more carefully.
@EricCVorst I had did not misunderstand or misread, nor did I think you "said it went extinct immediately at the end of the Renaissance."
I already interpreted your "effectively" to mean "virtually", which means "for all practical purposes." So you now admit that you MEANT that, FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES the viol "went extinct after the Renaissance."
In fact, the viol continued to be used for at least another 150 years, esp. as a continuo instrument.
@wcbroccoli Well, if you didn't think I meant "immediately" after the Renaissance you would have saved yourself a lot of time and embarrassment. All you had to do was point out that the Viol stuck around (although nowhere near the popularity) for another 150 years.
I would have thanked you for the valuable information, as I am not afraid to learn new things. I do not, however, allow my words to be twisted and misrepresented in order to serve an opponent's arguments. I will correct and educate.
@EricCVorst In my 1st comment on your claim that the viol "effectively" (=virtually=for all practical purposes") became extinct after the Renaissance, I disproved the claim by observing that the viol continued to be used - as a melody instrument & later as a continuo instrument - in the 150 years that followed. Not all of that 150 years (the Baroque) was ":immediately" after the Renaissance. Furthermore, the bass viol was the preferred continuo instrument for small ensembles.
@EricCVorst I didn't twist or misrepresent your words. I quoted them in context, and from the get go, I interpreted your word "effectively", which you made such a fuss about, with the precisely the meaning you said you intended: "virtually", which means "for all practical purposes". "For all practical purposes", the viol did NOT become extinct until well after the Baroque, not the Renaissance.
@wcbroccoli Thanks for supporting my original claim, along with what I've been trying to hammer into your thick head for the last three days:
The viol became extinct after the Renaissance.
As you correctly point out, it wasn't until well after the subsequent Baroque period, but that has no impact on the truthfulness of my original statement. It only impacts the specificity.
@EricCVorst The viol consort continued in England well into the mid 1600s. The pardessus continued into the 19th c. The viol was revived in the 20th c. Today there are many amateur and professional viol players & even contemporary compositions for the viol. I myself play treble, tenor and bass viol in viol consorts.
I did all the correcting & eduicating. Any embarrasment is entirely yours -- for refusing to admit your error & then falsely accusing me of twisting & mispresenting your words.
@wcbroccoli The only educating you've provided is a how-to course in building an invalid argument.
Are you familiar with the difference between "normative" and "empirical" statements? Since you don't believe what I'm trying to teach you, perhaps you can Google the definitions.
Here's a review:
"The viol effectively went extinct after the Renaissance" is an empirical statement. It is true.
@EricCVorst The fact that the viol ACTUALLY, as opposed to "virtually", continued to be used for at least another 150 years after the Renaissance, especially, though not exclusively, as a continuo instrument, contradicts your notion that the viol became "virtually" extinct after the Renassance.
@wcbroccoli Pay attention. The purpose of my post was to congratulate the performer. Mentioning the disappearance of the instrument was an afterthought.
You clearly seized upon the mention of the instrument's disappearance to demonstrate your superior historical knowledge. While your knowledge is commendable, your tact leaves a lot to be desired.
And no, you didn't "beat" me at my own game. You just obviously are missing the big point, no matter how many times I try to explain it to you. Sad.
@EricCVorst No. You pay attention. You just don't seem to get that I never gave a flying fuck about about the supposed purpose of your original post. Your so-called "big point" was never of any interest to me.
I didn't "seize" upon anything. I merely pointed out the factual error of your statement about the extinction of the viol.
And yes, I did beat you at your own sad little game which is nothing more than a transparent attempt to cover your tracks.
@wcbroccoli Therein lies the problem: you didn't care about the larger context, only one small sentence in the post. That's why you're arguing (and looking) like a middle-schooler.
The only reason I mentioned that the Viol went extinct after the Renaissance (which it did) was to underscore how impressive it is to see someone playing it with such virtuosity. Whether the Viol went extinct 1 year or 150 years after is not important to my praise of the performer. The statement is true.
@wcbroccoli And yes I am aware that the Viola da Gamba was still played during the Baroque Period, but it never regained the status it enjoyed during the Renaissance, when it was 2nd in popularity only to the lute.
Again the key word was "effectively" (syn: virtually) and my main point was that this was a great performance. Given YouTube limitations on size for comments, where'd you get the idea that I could comment on a performance & also provide a dissertation on the instrument's history?
@EricCVorst You seem to be conceding my point. Since you admit "that the Viola da Gamba was still played during the Baroque Period", it follows that the viol did NOT become "effectively", i.e., "for all practical purposes", extinct after the Renassiance.
"Virtually" and "effectrively" both mean "for all practical purposes".
I have no expectations about your abilty to comment in Utube.
@wcbroccoli It was played during the Baroque period, but played less and in a consistently diminishing fashion. I'm not conceding your point but rather we agree on something.
It reached its height in popularity in the Renaissance then declined steadily after that. The beginning of the Baroque Period was the beginning of the end for the Viola da Gamba, and that's a fact.
If you want to parse my words please do so accurately and in context.
@EricCVorst Another fact is that the viol ACTUALLY, as opposed to "virtually", continued to be used for at least another 150 years after the Renaissance:
It was a melody instrument in the 1600s, continuo in the 1700s.
The issue is whether the viol became "virtually" extinct after the Renaissance, not whether it diminshed in popularity.
I parsed your words accurately from the get go and called you on it. That's what's got your knickers in a twist.
@wcbroccoli No, the issue is that the whole point of my post was to applaud the performer. My mention of the Viol becoming virtually extinct after the Renaissance was an afterthought and used to actually enhance my praise of this video's popularity.
Two points you completely and utterly missed.
Again, the Viol DID go virtually extinct, and this DID happen AFTER the Renaissance. Both statements are true, hence my statement was true.
@EricCVorst I didn't miss anything. The only issue that concerned me was the inaccuracy of your statement that the viol "effectively" (=virtually=for all practical purposes) became extinct (was no longer used) after the Renaissance.
You never intended your statement to be only vacuously true, so let's not pretend otherwise.
Again, LONG AFTER the Renaissance the viol was STILL being used and it became POPULAR as a continuo instrument.
@wcbroccoli You missed everything - but at least you are starting to come around. You said the only thing that concerned you was the "inaccuracy" of my statement, not the "truthfulness" of the statement.
I've already said I could have been more accurate, but the statement was still true.
What cracks me up is you got so offended that someone would say this instrument dropped off the face of the earth. Obviously you took that personally, and I think it's hilarious.
@EricCVorst Let's not pretend that you intended your statement to be only vacuously true. Parsed as you intended it to be read and understood, you're statement is incorrect. I merely pointed out your factual error. Why would I be personally offended by your factual error? It's not like I invented the viol.
What is pathetic (not hilarious) is that you seem to have such a hard time admitting when you are wrong, and you take it personally when someone corrects you.
impressionante, mas eu morro de medo dela.
Giangrossi22 3 weeks ago
I can't tell if the frets are really far apart or if she's just REALLY short.
arnoldpalmer6 3 weeks ago
Asians...
adojferz 1 month ago
Wow!!! it made my day!
guririm 1 month ago
Bellísimo.
Where can I get the score of this piece?
agujerito 1 month ago
Amazing performance by Nima. My only gripe is that I wish the editors spent more than 2 or 3 seconds before switching between shots and instead focused on just her bowing for a good while, or just the left hand.
Sprongles95 2 months ago
SEXY!
TheFGO96 3 months ago
I absolutely LOVE this piece!! And the performer's expressive mastery keeps me coming back for repeat listens. I think I want to play this instrument . . .
dolcedolente 4 months ago
Great stuff
TheSilentRiver94 4 months ago
fuck the cello
wallybigballs 5 months ago
The frets on a viola da gamba are made out of gut. They are moveable--you can slide them up and down to achieve perfect intonation. Nima Den David's expression and musicianship are outstanding!!
bottesini2001 5 months ago
are those frets or tapes?
swizzle2012 6 months ago
@swizzle2012 They are frets, made from gut. But contrary to instruments that use metal frets, you have to press ON the fret itself. It's really not that bad. you have the fret folded in two and looped against itself, so you press in between the two strands, that are closely together. But it is somewhat different from guitar.
UncleTito72 4 months ago
Perfect, beautiful, full of enormous soul. I <3 Nima Ben David. Thank you!
fiandrhi 6 months ago
absolutely fucking incredible, bravo!
fizihkull 6 months ago
Que copado como interpreta! es una grosa!! :)
EdleJulve 8 months ago
She is amazing
soguon 8 months ago
Can you still do vibrato with the frets?
JLMoriart 8 months ago
@JLMoriart yes, finger bends the string instead of sliding.. but that takes out part of the exprecion, and the note de-tunes only up from the standard pitch as you bend it, never down
ericoschmitt 8 months ago
nice music
jameslhenry100 8 months ago
she is UGLY but a great muscian
Brooklengirl 9 months ago
Truly Incredible !!!
benyogli 9 months ago
i hate how the instrument looks, but it sounds soo good.
xerotolerant 9 months ago
You can find the beginning prelude on the bass viol on iTunes. Still excellent performance!!
theanonymousman101 9 months ago
i hope someone makes a transcription for Violin ... ♥
PeriodinstrumentfaN 9 months ago
what is that?!?!
VampireAnimeGIRL1 9 months ago
Such a true musician; one who feels and embodies the music. This performance is nothing but perfection. Her expressions and phrasing are so fitting, making the piece such a wonder to hear...
jmdecker85 9 months ago
@electricwizard111 are you like saudi arabian or something? your reminding me of yoda or something
Haygan9799 10 months ago
I notice more expression in Nima's eyes than face and it seems natural to me. I don't find anything exaggerated. If music tells a story like opera except w/o the text and the performer embodies the spirit and narrative of the music then I would expect this to be reflected in the face. How would you like an opera soloist with no facial expression? Or is this like tattoos and piercings as well? Never mind that many tattoos and piercings are hidden and not for public display.
ephorntube 10 months ago
Can we focus on the music, please. I didn't know that being a bimbo was a prerequisite for musicianship. Kids... Pff...
UncleTito72 10 months ago
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UGGLYYY FREAKIN LADY
Haygan9799 11 months ago
@Haygan9799 Fuck you, you don't know what passion is.
velderia 11 months ago
OMG this music is so gorgeous. OMG WHO CARE WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE! SHE'S SHREDDING ON A 15th CENTURY INSTRUMENT! coooooool!
IAmTheViolaFreak 11 months ago 3
@IAmTheViolaFreak That would be an 18th century instrument. in the 15th century the viola da gamba had not evolved to what you see here.
UncleTito72 10 months ago
EWWWWWWW ugly lady
Haygan9799 11 months ago
@Haygan9799
Ugly? Would you prefer some witless dolly bird? Some bimbo who couldn't string two notes together? Just listen to that mastery!
philatelist26 11 months ago
i almost feel bad for the instrument, cuz she killed it.
boxedwinebandit 11 months ago
@boxedwinebandit
Tosh. This is a visceral performance, from the tripes, not some chocolate box sanitized thing.
philatelist26 11 months ago
What sublime musicianship.
diversicolour 1 year ago
C'est super.Le son grave du viola da gamba ça calme mon coeur et mes esprits.
Ma belle soeur Katok joue aussi très bien
on attend un lien d'elle impatiemment
yosmalikonak 1 year ago
@MrBrinsen Exactamiente!
Brotherinlow 1 year ago
It starts on WKO 205, which is the arpeggiato prelude, and the whole suite is in d. I play the Gamba but never dig into catalog numbers or so. Thanks a lot for the information you gave. WKO 208... Ok, now, where can I buy the score? It has always been a hassle to find Gamba scores. I may trancribe it by ear, but it won't be what Abel EXACTLY wrote... Thanks again!
Brotherinlow 1 year ago
honestly, it doesn't matter what she looks like, the point of the video is the beautiful music she plays.
SutherlandBulldog3 1 year ago
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At last - a comment with sense. One despairs of YouTube betimes!
philatelist26 11 months ago
Wow...she is amazing. Wonderful music. Beautiful instrument. I came here out of curiosity about the viola da gamba. Had never seen one. Wonderful wonderful. Thank you to performer and poster.
JeffW77 1 year ago
La expresión facial de esta dama es un lamento, como la música, atenazado de dulzura. Casi se diría que su cuerpo se adueña del instrumento, y a ratos el instrumento se adueña de la intérprete. Esta simbiosis se revela en la expresión de su cara.
MrBrinsen 1 year ago
WKO 205 or 207? The video title and the description are not the same...
Brotherinlow 1 year ago
@Brotherinlow They're both incorrect. This is WKO 208.
tripnikk 1 year ago
A very talented woman and an incredible performance!!!!!!!******
douskara 1 year ago
This must be very complicated to play, she's incredibly talented, it sounds amazing
lemonbee100 1 year ago
She is in the zone. People just get into a place where they are totally concentrated, and they don't have any attention on their facial expression. Everyone has a different expression when they are in the zone, they have no control over it, everything is given over to playing the instrument.
thomasfaltejsek 1 year ago
Anyone knows what strings does viola da gamba has ?
kolopaper123 1 year ago
@kolopaper123 They are generally gut strings. But these days the can be made out of perlon, a nylon type material. The way they do it is they take several strands of the material, and then wrap it with either nickel or aluminum, so they look as if they were metal, but the core of the string is perlon. Nima is probably using real gut (sheep) strings here, as that is what most people at her level (professionals) use. They are not as stable as perlon, but they have great tone.
UncleTito72 1 year ago
Can you stop the disparaging remarks about Nima and focus on the music, the interpretation and her art? This is typical internet culture.
UncleTito72 1 year ago
this is an extremely old video of Ms David playing viol. She has gone through a lovely transition since then - short hair, pretty face....it is almost like this is another person playing! But the artistry and skill are still there....there is no doubt this is Nima Ben David. Look at her bow hand -- she has a perfect position. Check out her video Rameau - Pieces de clavecin en concert #3 - see what she looks like "now."
williejax2 1 year ago
Is this instrument sometimes referred to as the 'bowed guitar'? Or is that another instrument?
electrickithara 1 year ago
damn nature you scary you need more light
bleed907 1 year ago
Thank you. I was momentarily transported to another plane of existence. I wish I could have been there to take in this performance.
svartskegg 1 year ago
que capa, que forma extraña de tomar el arco no? muy particular
Macross100 1 year ago
@Macross100 Así es, muchas técnicas europeas para el arqueo en instrumentos de cuerda frotada son bastante peculiares.
blackspider0 1 year ago
que capa
Macross100 1 year ago
I fail to see how Nima Ben David's facial expressions have anything to do with her playing. In an age where pierced body parts and facial tattoos seem to be commonplace, it seems to me that her facial expressions are incidental to her astonishing virtuosity and astonishing musicianship. I have played the bass viola da gamba for 5 decades and I wish I had played just one day of that time with the musicianship and virtuosity she expresses with such grace and control.
profaltelehrer 1 year ago 56
@profaltelehrer LOL! Yeah, ...In an age where pierced body parts and facial tattoos... LOL! Although she was making a funny face, I rather take her than a prettier woman with tattoos and piercing all over her face. Her facial expressions just shows how into the music she is.
celloprof 1 year ago
@profaltelehrer
You have it one. Her facial expressions express her committment to the music, unlike so much of the absurd posturing that goes on in the pop world.
philatelist26 11 months ago
@profaltelehrer I was going to make comment, but you really summed it up. Very nicely said.
UncleTito72 4 months ago
i want one
orphan567 1 year ago
this lady looks scary
paperchasin23 1 year ago 2
@paperchasin23 you sure it's a lady?
DomLoverXD 1 year ago
@paperchasin23 jajajajjaja
villaliz0 1 year ago
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Crossing3084 1 year ago
@paperchasin23 you sure its a lady even? O_O
rokku87 1 year ago
@paperchasin23
how unfortunate, .. that you missed the entire moment.
Lorbus100 9 months ago
How about if you all shut up and listen to the music... Or let me see you playing this on your viola, for a change. Sure thing, I can't...
Amurrus 1 year ago
Music in radio has gotten so much worse in the last 20-30 years! What we have now isn't music if u can call it that!
MsCellobass 1 year ago
Very nice!
Please check out my new performance of some french baroque music by Robert de Visée aswell!
moregreatmusic 1 year ago
Very beautiful music and an equally beautiful instrument. Thank you for posting this.
MrMKH2010 1 year ago
Very beautiful product! Thanks!!!
birjanka 1 year ago
Beautiful!!!!
Gyurme25 1 year ago
Beautiful
Gyurme25 1 year ago
Bravo !
kolektanto 1 year ago
The contrast procuced by the expression on her face and the beatiful sound she gets from the viola is quite funny. It seems something is wrong with her, like she is not in mood of playing... But she is amazing! I'd like to play like that!
JeanEmanuel 1 year ago 2
@JeanEmanuel In contemporary music this is called a "guitar face: The act of making an unusual face while playing the guitar. The look typically resembles a look of pain, intense ecstacy, or sometimes even plain old gas." Reference Mick Ronson or K. K. Downing.
tobiasaurusrex 1 year ago
@JeanEmanuel that's the way an artist looks while havin a musgasm
gianlucalamazza 1 year ago
Breathtaking! - Thanks for posting
boundsie99 1 year ago
just gorgeous playing, light, threadbare, gruffy low register double stops,great music,
very intimate and grandiose simultaneously
herma57 1 year ago
what an insane instrument this is! wow. looks very difficult
triviumlambofgod 1 year ago
brillante :)
ErnZtOverture 1 year ago
why don't you pick up a ruby gamba? play some rock. I play classical guitar and I like to show off what I can do with an electric guitar. It's awesome.
Maestro14231 1 year ago
that's a weir bow :O
hellkidgreenday 1 year ago
What a beautiful timbre this instrument has...
serenaskye 1 year ago
@serenaskye Yeah and having a fancy shmancy video camera helps, LOL! That lady really needs to shut her mouth, LOL! Beautiful playing anyways, but when it comes to that instrument, it looks new and I thought I heard a few squeaking noises from it.
celloprof 1 year ago
@celloprof As modern instruments go, I am really partial to Andrew Dipper's baroque instruments!
crazycellist973 1 year ago
The title says "WKO 205", the caption says "WKO 207", but isn't this actually the "Moderato" WKO 208? Apart from that, thank you for sharing this video.
VoceCorale 1 year ago
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"It sucks that European TV shows great music like this and we've got what ......American Idol??!!??"
Well said!
artrndmidnight3 1 year ago
was that a tear running from my eye, ,,,,, yep
bigmuso123 1 year ago
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3intelligents 1 year ago
I love the expressions on her face! I think she's the first string player I've seen who makes faces while playing music. Most band kids that I know make faces, but not very many orchestra kids. None of the above is meant in a bad way! I love this kind of music, it is very beautiful!
KiyoKenshin 1 year ago 2
@KiyoKenshin hmmm, there are so many examples of classical musicians who love making faces. itzhak perlman, yo yo ma, lang lang, maxim vengerov, gil shaham, ... virtually everyone, really.
duhhh86 1 year ago
What a beautiful sound!!!! Nima is an extraordinary musician.
violatione 1 year ago
@violatione ; thanks to Abel !!!!
macapo 1 year ago
this is awesome!!!!!
churchboyslim 1 year ago
she looks a bit possessed or puppet-like,
like she's not moving her own limbs
amazing performance
xaouqinz 1 year ago
yaaay.... we learned o these in my music appreciation class...i decided to look it up.
shakmack 1 year ago
Great!!!
nandiji 1 year ago
@ mzrequiem: yo dije que el contrabajo viene de la viola da gamba, no que la viola da gamba viene del contrabajo, no seas estupido. Acaso sabes leer ? o solo sabes criticar los comentarios de los demas... lo que si estoy seguro esque no sabes ingles.... por cierto, tu video de evanescence es de lo mas intelectual !! sigue asi !!!
barrocke 1 year ago
great
salafricano 1 year ago
does anyone know what kind of viola da gamba this is? is it bass? or tenor?
poojmanjeep 1 year ago
@poojmanjeep it's a seven string bass viol. French because of the seventh string :)
OliveCelloColin 1 year ago
yep i love metal and clasical music(barroque and romantic not clasical i just hate mozart and bethoven).
i love tristania, epica, after forever and also love Bach, Rameau, corelli, brahams, paganini, chopin etc XD
mzrequiem 1 year ago
@mzrequiem Beethoven was one of the first romantic composers, many of his piano sonatas are what i would call the definition of romanticism, some of his last string quartets actually surpass romanticism and verge on sounding modern, also Brahams is spelled Brahms. I get the feeling that you dont actually have a clue what your talking about
robdme 1 year ago
@robdme don't be snobby now
OliveCelloColin 1 year ago
@OliveCelloColin HAHAHA!!! you know what? your right!! i agree, dont know what got into me!!
robdme 1 year ago
beautiful instrument, beautiful playing...
Bladedervish 1 year ago
BEAUTIFUL !!! Of course ! Viol is the grandmother of the Double Bass...
barrocke 1 year ago
@barrocke cello
FelipeValen 1 year ago
@barrocke not true this viol is desendant of the vihuela
mzrequiem 1 year ago
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Dansback21 1 year ago
@Dansback21 Is it really necessary to make such disparaging comments? Shame. This is wonderful music!
akroatis 1 year ago
Sorry, I wasn't downing the music. I make weird faces when I play violin, so I always wonder what people are thinking when they make faces while they play.
Dansback21 1 year ago
Don't worry about making faces, Dansback21! People will be happy to hear you play well, if they really care about the music.
akroatis 1 year ago
Hey everybody, I play the cello and I am thinking about buying a da gamba just for a little thing on the side, will the transition be hard? How big is the difference between the two? WHat is the tuning? Thanks :)
slothfat 1 year ago
nope. apart from construction, tuning, and certain rep there's not much different aside from bowings. the strong bow is a push and the weak bow a pull. instead of 5ths you've got 4ths with a major 3rd in the middle. esentially it's a bowed lute, you can't go wrong with fretts :D
fagottehautboy 1 year ago
In addition, you press on the fret itself, not behind the fret like guitarists do. Also, because the frets are movable, you can adjust the tuning and play with mean-tone temperaments. The tension on the bow is not adjustable, so you have to control that with your fingers as you are playing.
UncleTito72 1 year ago
Nada que envidiarle al cello. El cello debería envidiar a la viola da gamba.
claudiobassist 1 year ago 2
such a delight to listen to the mastery of this most extra ordinary instrument ... the weariness of life circumstances transformed by this music of Abel .... and this mysterious charmer Nima Ben David
qmusings818 1 year ago
You see, that is just what's wrong with the people here. " If you don't play Paganini you don't play". What kind of moronic comment is that. Anyone can play. Not everyone can interpret a piece. That requires musicianship, not virtuosity.
UncleTito72 2 years ago 5
pero que es de un violinista q nunca a tocado vivaldi o bach ???
paganini vale es difsilsimo yo pienso que la musicalidad no esta peleada con el virtuosismo
y mi comentario era mas con respecto a que es lo q el escucha o toca en violin o giutarra ??
que toque no quiere decir que sepa tocar
mzrequiem 2 years ago
Well if all you listen to is rap, rock, metal or even country, it may seem like noise. But this is actually great music. More music than anything being played in the radio today.
UncleTito72 2 years ago 24
@UncleTito72 Don't generalize Metal or you will be sounding just like the dump ppl who don't understand this kinda of song...
metal is Great, and Big, tehre are many Metal operas and great musician, tehre are many Death Metal composers who actually listen to classical songs and even have played a role in orchestras...
demonight2 1 year ago
@UncleTito72 It doesn't seem like noise to me. But i listen to classical indian music. Most musicologists believe this to be the most mathematically superior music genre of them all. It is also much more in tune and sophisticated than western music. I wouldn't be so quick to put down other genres. Although I dislike rap and metal, I think classic 60's and 70's rock is nice, but I mainly listen to Indian music.
chocolatedonut31 1 year ago
@chocolatedonut31 Thank you, I needed a good laugh. But seriously, you ought read a little on polyphony, specifically the fugue; better yet, try writing one . . . two-part counterpoint shall suffice, and it needn't much length.
dolofonos 1 year ago
@UncleTito72 Many metal players actually Do like Baroque/Early music. Behind the volume and distorion many metal songs have classical-like structures in them. Granted, your average 18 yr old metal head may not ba able to appreciate this.
PHALANX100BC 1 year ago
@PHALANX100BC
Brian May was on NPR today and the thought occurred to me that Bohemian Rhapsody would go very well on a Viola da Gamba consort. Most of Queen's songs have an air of Bach and Handel about them.
Hikikomori013 1 year ago
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it sounds like a whole bunch of noise
dnsrocha2 2 years ago
@dnsrocha2 Philistine.
djsmurfie 1 year ago
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this thing should have never been invented!!!
a viola and a cello should do!
they should stop making these things they sound horrible and they hurt my ears!
DeeRm06 2 years ago
@DeeRm06 I'm sure the entire early music community will promptly comply with your command, mein fuhrer!
djangoism 2 years ago
Such singular timbre is for those with taste--I suggest you likewise avoid the foie gras.
dolofonos 1 year ago
@DeeRm06 Philistine.
djsmurfie 1 year ago
This is so beautiful, I do often listen to this while I study and also just watch it.
There is something so pure and godly about Nima Ben Davis, like she belongs to a higher world.
Snikkari 2 years ago 2
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1md4b0ss 2 years ago
This is really fantastic! very unique, it looks like an instrument from the Renaissance.
1md4b0ss 2 years ago
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i agree with VRJaguarandi this is gay!!!!
DeeRm06 2 years ago
This is because you are of a time and people who do not VALUE subtle venues where police cars aren't positioned outside. Yet intimate settings were the gambas' home. They served as an instrumental, bowed chorus and later as solo instruments as well. And all of your violin family instruments were heavily modified from their original state. But from the videos you saved, maybe a stick, an emptied watermelon or forty-ouncer shell is all that you'll need to get the kind of music you enjoy.
laketroutdeepdown 2 years ago
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And i do VALUE music not noise from this thing this is just noise not music. i know music i have played the guitar violin and currently playing the cello.
DeeRm06 2 years ago
and do you play they well XD
i mean do you play paganini sibelius???
not at least vivaldi ?????
if not then you dont realy play violin
mzrequiem 2 years ago
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And i do VALUE music not noise from this thing this is just noise not music. i know music i have played the guitar violin and currently playing the cello.
dnsrocha2 2 years ago
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are you stupid!!!!!! viola de gamb'ass' are stupis worthless boxes that dont work for anything!!!!!!!!! a cello and a viola are a million times better than this piece of crap. They should have never invented a viola de gamba. Who ever invented it should have never been born!!!!!!!!!!!!! or anyone that plays this creature!!!! (:
DeeRm06 2 years ago
This becomes more beautiful each time I listen to it - and it is more apparent what a masterful performance this is. Not only are we listening to music played on an instrument that effectively went extinct after the Renaissance, but we are hearing a musician who plays Abel's music in a way that expresses both passion and sensitivity. Not to mention, this live performance holds up against any studio recording.
Bravissimo!
EricCVorst 2 years ago 4
@EricCVorst Where'd you get the idea the viol "effectively went extinct after the Renaissance"? The Renaissance ended around 1600, but gamba was used as a melody instrument. in the 1600s thru early 1700s and as a continuo instrument up to the early 19th century. The composer of this piece, Karl Abel, was a business partner of one Bach's 11th son, Johann Christian Bach, the famous "London Bach". Abel's father was the gamba teacher of Bach's Coethen employer, Prince Leopold.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli I got the idea that it "effectively went extinct after the Renaissance" because it did. I didn't say it went *totally* extinct, but *effectively* went extinct. I never said people stopped playing it, nor did I say composers stopped writing music for it.
The point of my post was to praise the performance not to discuss history. My comments regarding its fading popularity after the Renaissance were reasonably accurate.
What an odd thing for you to comment on regarding my post ...
EricCVorst 1 year ago
@EricCVorst No. "Effectively" means "for all practical purposes."
For all practical purposes the viol DID continue to be used in (practical) music making well beyond the Renaissance.
Therefore, it's incorrect for you to say that "effectively [i.e., all practical purposes] the viol went extinct after the Renaissance."
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli First of all "effectively" has a number of different meanings and I have told you what I intended with my use of the word: which was "virtually".
Your problem is that you are misreading what I wrote. You incorrectly think I said it went extinct immediately at the end of the Renaissance. I did not say that. I said it effectively went extinct after the Renaissance.
Since you had trouble understanding what I originally wrote, I explained it to you further. Please read more carefully.
EricCVorst 1 year ago
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wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@EricCVorst I had did not misunderstand or misread, nor did I think you "said it went extinct immediately at the end of the Renaissance."
I already interpreted your "effectively" to mean "virtually", which means "for all practical purposes." So you now admit that you MEANT that, FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES the viol "went extinct after the Renaissance."
In fact, the viol continued to be used for at least another 150 years, esp. as a continuo instrument.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli Well, if you didn't think I meant "immediately" after the Renaissance you would have saved yourself a lot of time and embarrassment. All you had to do was point out that the Viol stuck around (although nowhere near the popularity) for another 150 years.
I would have thanked you for the valuable information, as I am not afraid to learn new things. I do not, however, allow my words to be twisted and misrepresented in order to serve an opponent's arguments. I will correct and educate.
EricCVorst 1 year ago
@EricCVorst In my 1st comment on your claim that the viol "effectively" (=virtually=for all practical purposes") became extinct after the Renaissance, I disproved the claim by observing that the viol continued to be used - as a melody instrument & later as a continuo instrument - in the 150 years that followed. Not all of that 150 years (the Baroque) was ":immediately" after the Renaissance. Furthermore, the bass viol was the preferred continuo instrument for small ensembles.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@EricCVorst I didn't twist or misrepresent your words. I quoted them in context, and from the get go, I interpreted your word "effectively", which you made such a fuss about, with the precisely the meaning you said you intended: "virtually", which means "for all practical purposes". "For all practical purposes", the viol did NOT become extinct until well after the Baroque, not the Renaissance.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli Thanks for supporting my original claim, along with what I've been trying to hammer into your thick head for the last three days:
The viol became extinct after the Renaissance.
As you correctly point out, it wasn't until well after the subsequent Baroque period, but that has no impact on the truthfulness of my original statement. It only impacts the specificity.
Are you even paying attention?
EricCVorst 1 year ago
@EricCVorst The viol consort continued in England well into the mid 1600s. The pardessus continued into the 19th c. The viol was revived in the 20th c. Today there are many amateur and professional viol players & even contemporary compositions for the viol. I myself play treble, tenor and bass viol in viol consorts.
I did all the correcting & eduicating. Any embarrasment is entirely yours -- for refusing to admit your error & then falsely accusing me of twisting & mispresenting your words.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli The only educating you've provided is a how-to course in building an invalid argument.
Are you familiar with the difference between "normative" and "empirical" statements? Since you don't believe what I'm trying to teach you, perhaps you can Google the definitions.
Here's a review:
"The viol effectively went extinct after the Renaissance" is an empirical statement. It is true.
EricCVorst 1 year ago
@EricCVorst The fact that the viol ACTUALLY, as opposed to "virtually", continued to be used for at least another 150 years after the Renaissance, especially, though not exclusively, as a continuo instrument, contradicts your notion that the viol became "virtually" extinct after the Renassance.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli Yes it continued to be used for 150 years (less and less). What happened in the late 18th Century? Did it go virtually extinct?
Quiz: Was the end of the 18th Century before or after the end of the Renaissance Period?
You acknowledge the viol went virtually extinct 150 years after the Renaissance, which is by definition after the Renaissance.
Please take my advice and stop arguing factual standing and instead argue specificity. I'm right on the facts, you're right on the specifics.
EricCVorst 1 year ago
@EricCVorst You obviously didn't intend your statement to be only vacuously true. So why go there?
You're wrong on the facts & the semantics.
"Extinct" means "no longer active", not no longer as popular as it used to be.
"Effectively extinct" means "for all practical purposes, no longer active", not "for all practical purposes no longer as popular as it used to be."
The bass viol was never popular as a continuo instrument until AFTER the Renaissance. Beat you at your own game.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli Pay attention. The purpose of my post was to congratulate the performer. Mentioning the disappearance of the instrument was an afterthought.
You clearly seized upon the mention of the instrument's disappearance to demonstrate your superior historical knowledge. While your knowledge is commendable, your tact leaves a lot to be desired.
And no, you didn't "beat" me at my own game. You just obviously are missing the big point, no matter how many times I try to explain it to you. Sad.
EricCVorst 1 year ago
@EricCVorst No. You pay attention. You just don't seem to get that I never gave a flying fuck about about the supposed purpose of your original post. Your so-called "big point" was never of any interest to me.
I didn't "seize" upon anything. I merely pointed out the factual error of your statement about the extinction of the viol.
And yes, I did beat you at your own sad little game which is nothing more than a transparent attempt to cover your tracks.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli Therein lies the problem: you didn't care about the larger context, only one small sentence in the post. That's why you're arguing (and looking) like a middle-schooler.
The only reason I mentioned that the Viol went extinct after the Renaissance (which it did) was to underscore how impressive it is to see someone playing it with such virtuosity. Whether the Viol went extinct 1 year or 150 years after is not important to my praise of the performer. The statement is true.
EricCVorst 1 year ago
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EricCVorst 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli And yes I am aware that the Viola da Gamba was still played during the Baroque Period, but it never regained the status it enjoyed during the Renaissance, when it was 2nd in popularity only to the lute.
Again the key word was "effectively" (syn: virtually) and my main point was that this was a great performance. Given YouTube limitations on size for comments, where'd you get the idea that I could comment on a performance & also provide a dissertation on the instrument's history?
EricCVorst 1 year ago
@EricCVorst You seem to be conceding my point. Since you admit "that the Viola da Gamba was still played during the Baroque Period", it follows that the viol did NOT become "effectively", i.e., "for all practical purposes", extinct after the Renassiance.
"Virtually" and "effectrively" both mean "for all practical purposes".
I have no expectations about your abilty to comment in Utube.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli It was played during the Baroque period, but played less and in a consistently diminishing fashion. I'm not conceding your point but rather we agree on something.
It reached its height in popularity in the Renaissance then declined steadily after that. The beginning of the Baroque Period was the beginning of the end for the Viola da Gamba, and that's a fact.
If you want to parse my words please do so accurately and in context.
EricCVorst 1 year ago
@EricCVorst Another fact is that the viol ACTUALLY, as opposed to "virtually", continued to be used for at least another 150 years after the Renaissance:
It was a melody instrument in the 1600s, continuo in the 1700s.
The issue is whether the viol became "virtually" extinct after the Renaissance, not whether it diminshed in popularity.
I parsed your words accurately from the get go and called you on it. That's what's got your knickers in a twist.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli No, the issue is that the whole point of my post was to applaud the performer. My mention of the Viol becoming virtually extinct after the Renaissance was an afterthought and used to actually enhance my praise of this video's popularity.
Two points you completely and utterly missed.
Again, the Viol DID go virtually extinct, and this DID happen AFTER the Renaissance. Both statements are true, hence my statement was true.
EricCVorst 1 year ago
@EricCVorst I didn't miss anything. The only issue that concerned me was the inaccuracy of your statement that the viol "effectively" (=virtually=for all practical purposes) became extinct (was no longer used) after the Renaissance.
You never intended your statement to be only vacuously true, so let's not pretend otherwise.
Again, LONG AFTER the Renaissance the viol was STILL being used and it became POPULAR as a continuo instrument.
wcbroccoli 1 year ago
@wcbroccoli You missed everything - but at least you are starting to come around. You said the only thing that concerned you was the "inaccuracy" of my statement, not the "truthfulness" of the statement.
I've already said I could have been more accurate, but the statement was still true.
What cracks me up is you got so offended that someone would say this instrument dropped off the face of the earth. Obviously you took that personally, and I think it's hilarious.
EricCVorst 1 year ago
@EricCVorst Let's not pretend that you intended your statement to be only vacuously true. Parsed as you intended it to be read and understood, you're statement is incorrect. I merely pointed out your factual error. Why would I be personally offended by your factual error? It's not like I invented the viol.
What is pathetic (not hilarious) is that you seem to have such a hard time admitting when you are wrong, and you take it personally when someone corrects you.
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wcbroccoli 1 year ago