I have to agree with, I happen to believe there is life on other planets...but intelligent life is very rare. As hospitable and inhospitable our planet can be at the same time, life can survive in very destructive extremes like heat and cold. If life can exist in those conditions on earth then it's bound to be out there. It's also possible that if there is intelligent life relatively close to our solar system it's likely to be primitive.
agreed and a similar history for myself, it is odd however haw man seems to have a drive to bring scifi into reality !! , I saw an experiment done in the uk where they in fact proved teleportation is possible ...using an ion across the thames ! ,I further agree the photo takes was inspirational and well worth the risk and the good old british answer !! lmao (we will cut the fingers off your bowmen , if memory serves ) great video !! and this is my start point in your catalogue :) best wishes :)
Even if the human race destroys itself, wrecks the planet, etc. I do not lament for it. It is obvious to anyone with an atom of a brain that the Cosmos is host to a choir of life. The story of existence will go on, the glory of cruising the stars will go to a more rational species. The Earth will stand quiet for a time then reawaken and give rise to another world of life as it always has. The fact that I can KNOW this truth is enough to let me be happy and rejoice despite the chaos and despair.
@Eyes8577 So true, happy to read some one thinking that to... We're part of something so much bigger and the universe is so young yet, we're around an only second generation star...
It warms my heart or "soul" if you will, to find someone who was as excited about this as i was. When you paused before you said "Well in my case....." i aloud filled in the blank with one word, "astonishing".
Actually I'm not sure a religious person would have more in common with an atheist then an alien.
I'm sure there's moronic religious aliens. Not that they'd like eachother, because they'd hold to different religions, same as how christians and muslims don't necessarily like eachother in spite of just being variations of eachother far as I'm concerned. But they undeniably would have more in common with religious aliens then atheists of their own species.
Plus to reverse it, I'd much rather deal with a pleasant sensible alien then say some bigoted shitwad like Fred Phelps. and I'd probably have more in common with the alien.
I mean I just don't hold to the idea that aliens would bring people closer together. Unless they are hostile, but if they are they'd exterminate us with ease if they are able to come here. They could just lob an asteroid at us at lightspeed from beyond Pluto's orbit and we'd be all dead a few minutes later.
And if they aren't hostile, well.. unfortunately some people'll be bigoted even some people not bigoted against any other humans. But I wouldn't be.
I agree about how simple minded people would laugh those kinds of images off. My religous friend didn't think anything of the Hubble Deep Field image but I was in awe of the image and couldn't understand how people could think that we are the most important beings in the world. It's amazing to see how vast the universe is. Truly amazing.
There are hundreds of billions of stars in a typical galaxy, and perhaps around 200-500 billion galaxies. If only a tiny, itty-bitty fraction of stars has intelligent life on them, that would still be millions of civilizations across the universe. We don't know they're there, but the odds seem to favor it.
If it's true, does this mean Jesus has to visit each one and be crucified over and over again to save their souls? If not, why should the Earth be favored or require something they don't?
A little Knowledge is very dangerous....If you can even begin to understand the greatness of our GOD,you would realise very quickly how little we know. MARANATHANA
The Catholic Church already has plans to start missions to foreign world. And when I say "missions" I mean it in the historical context of missionary work. They fully intend to spread their brand of Christianity to as many worlds as possible if they can.
A united Earth. Imagine it Earth unifed as one nation, one planet, one government. Ruled by reason and logic. Driven by our dreams and aspirations. Where everyone has a voice. Everyone has value. This is the kind if world that our current religions keep us from having. If everyone just broke their chains of ignorance, we could have this reality. Just imagine it.
I understand the same feeling but i don't know if humankind can get passed its xenophobia long enough to try and converse or understand another race. We can hardly understand ourselves given the splitting and waring multi-factions on this planet.
Lets hope we as a society continue to realize the importance of these types of missions and other scientific endeavors. Given our failing education system, lack of funding for scientific research, growing fundamentalism, and the overall lack of interest in the sciences among Americans, that hope seems more and more like a pipe dream. I hope I'm wrong.
I dunno why its a popular belief that a completely alien race on a different world is sure to use radio waves for communication when they could very well of developed a different system of senses that led them to develop and use entirely different branches of tech that could be useless to us, but majorly useful for them. The truth is until we get our butts out there or another race comes on over and gives us the low down, we won't know who/what is out there and what tech is in use.
@philhellenes Imagine, somewhere in the universe, perhaps Andromeda, a another being is making a video about discovering life elsewhere in the universe. If we can, there's a chance it could happen again...right?
On Facebook recently, people were talking about the possibility of life being on maybe 1 in 4 planets. One guy chimed in with, "The interesting question is not about life, but about whether it is fallen." I responded with, "Oh good grief." which inspired a pile of vitriole from the 'fallen' guy.
But he was right In a way; it is an interesting question. Though I don't know how it could be tested. If alien life IS discovered and found to be not fallen (of course), where will the gods be then?
They'll claim the extra terrestrial life from the devil. (religious people) And also, an intelligent civilization wouldn't be using radio signals. Humans only use on radio type signal and I believe it's hydrogen or something. Michio Kaku talked about it.
The thought of finding another Earth is such an exciting prospect. If people decide to go there and create a new civilization (because we're fucking up Earth, and we probably won't be able to stay here much longer), would it be too far to ever come back? By the time people got there, would everyone they knew on Earth be dead?
And most importantly - would only non religious people and those with high IQs be allowed to go, so that the new "Earth" would be governed by intelligence and reason? XD
I agree with you for the most part, but there are some things I have my own possible ideas about. But you guys should watch a kid's animation cartoon called Planet 51. Although it's animated and stuff, it talks about the ignorance of believing there is no other life. Hope you guys enjoy it. :)
Aaah, yes the Kepler! The Kepler will probably allow us to calculate how many Earths there should roughly be in our galaxy I think. And if we can detect these Earth's atmosphere's, and take a good look at the ages of the stars these Earths orbits, even how many of these planets should probably have complex life.
After that it's a tossup, but if there's ALOT of those, chances are there's a few intelligent aliens around.
I'd have to see one first, but that's the point you can say it's likely.
Of course if the Kepler shows Earths are very RARE, then even if there are aliens, they'd be in other galaxies probably at best. In which case no human will likely ever see an intelligent alien, or talk to one long distance.
I'm kind of skeptical about intelligent aliens. Not because I think it's impossible so much. I'd just have to see one first.
If you'd ask me what I'd WANT though, I'd want for the Earth to be unique.
Maybe that'd inspire people to actually take CARE of it, instead of treating it like shit.
I don't think that is the case, but I think I'd like Kepler to fail to find Earths, which goes to show that Earth is our only chance and which would finally get the truth through everyone's skulls allready: If Earth dies, we die. End of story.
Still if there ARE aliens, I don't think it'd bring people closer together.
I'd rather be friends with an open-minded alien with similar views, then some raving fundie bigot who hates me on general principle. And I'd feel closer to the alien, and enjoy the aliens company more.
I mean if there ARE aliens, either they'll just be the same sort of schmucks (inside at least, they might LOOK quite different.) as us. Which means a small handful of them are cool, most are your typical schmo's and a few are really really annoying. But you know, the okay ones will probably be fun.
Or alternatively they'll be these big computer brains we can't relate to, and compared to which we'd be like ants.
'If' intelligent life is found on another planet, the religious will just morph their fairy tale to accept it into their dogma.
On a side note about radio signals. It is said that after 1 or 2 light years, the signals (from Earth) after that distance are diluted into white noise.
Heres hoping our generation opens a doorway to scientific expansion of a sale never understood before.
if monotheisms can be stopped, I imagine the entire solar system being colonized by 2150, and from there, greater technologies with construction based in space will create fantastic information gathering tools.
something that occured to me when you mentioned fear of the alien.... wouldn't there be all kinds of nasty diseases there we have no immunity to? not like we would be going there any time soon. so much for my space vacation
The good news is that alien diseases probably won't know what to do with you either. Disease transfer between species only seems to happen when species share genetic history or have been living in the same environment for quite some time. The odds of you getting sick from an alien disease are in all likelihood considerably worse than you catching fin rot from your goldfish.
At only one and a half times the radius of Earth, Gliese 581 C is the third and smallest planet to be discovered orbiting a Red Dwarf star located 20.5 light years away in the constellation Libra and the first one to approach the Earth's size. The planet resides in the star's "Goldilocks Zone" where liquid water --and life could occur. The team of Swiss, French and Portuguese astronomers used the European Southern Observatory's 3.6 m telescope to make this incredible discovery.
Nice video, i was looking forward to the Kepler launch for a long time, I'm happy everything works fine and the scientific mission has officially begun around may 12th. I'm also looking forward to seeing new pictures of Planck, Herschel and Hubble, which was recently repaired and improved significantly. For me personally there is no question IF we will find life out there. The question is only WHEN we will "officially" realize that we are not alone in this gigantic universe
I don't think there is any question of wether there is another Earth like planet in the universe, look how big it is. It's how far away is it, and how the hell are we gonna get there!
I don';t know if I'd move to another planet for colonisation. It would be like saying goodbye to your mother. Earth is the mother to all. Cruel she can be but she's still your mother and sustains us. No I'd remain at first and let the more inquisitive go then perhaps visit. I'm an earth bound man. I can look at the stars and dream but not actually go through with it that I shall leave to others more adventurous then myself
Great video. Reminds me of the high contrast remix videos by Liquicity (username). This isn't spam by the way! I wasn't aware that this mission had been started. I should start reading the New Scientist. PS 'What Islam Fears: Laughter' is unbelievably funny, how thick can some people be!!
If they do find Earth #2 can we please ban all religious people from ever setting foot on it. It would be so nice to have somewhere that wasn't full of bigotry.
No worries about that. The human race will never get out of the solar system. I'd say human civilization already has terminal twin cancer, capitalism and overpopulation. Those two are bound to drain the earth of resources to the point that society'll collapse long before the human race would get even near the level of technology to a manned mission to as much as jupiter.
oh sorry. i wasnt arguing by the way. i got mixed up by some other star. there are trillions billions and infinity stars so yeah i got a little mixed up.
@Blackwater578 The equation to that possibility could possibly be (The global amount of religious people who truly believed that science is bullshit and God exist) / (The Global amount of Atheists who believed that God is currently unproven and religions should go) * 100%.
Result> 100% =end of mankind
Result< 100% =No New Dark Age:)
Works more like a baseline but better than speaking abstract and vague dumb concepts :)
Keplar's successful launch is cause for celebration indeed! I am looking forward to whatever it will find - a potential Earth #2 would be beyond awesome.
This mission is great and all but lets remember the distances involved between star systems. Even if we find another Earth or some perfectly suited planet for humans, it would take thousands of years, if not millions, to get there. We cannot even achieve 1% of the speed of light. There is no guarantee that we'll ever be able to leave our star system, this might be a reason why we haven't been visited by intelligent lifeforms.
i agree . there i every possiblity of a planet similar to earth in the universe .. in fact . Venus is very similar in all parameters, gravity, size , orbital pattern ( give or take) just because another planet may be the same size as earth means not alot .. i think venus was an earth like planet billions of years ago , and Mars will be the next earth , when we have gone and so on as the planets get closer to the sun (so called 'global warming') or the Sun expires... Far out.
Global warming is not caused by the Earth getting closer to the sun, rather its caused by the greenhouse effect. Seasons are caused by the tilt of the Earth's axis.
If we are successful in discovering intelligent life on planets orbiting other stars, pitty those poor aliens. It won't be long before those evangelists set up radio transmitters and start the first interstellar ministry, beamin' the word of the Lord to all those wretched alien sinners!
So are you suggesting that any carbon burning life forms that can be reflective (intelligent) will attempt to sell an idea of themselves living after death in order to escape working for a living?
I think its unlikely we'll find something with abundant life. Not only does it have to be the right mass and distance from the right type of sun, but it will need a satellite (moon) with the right mass revolving around it to keep the atmosphere from being blown away by the solar wind.
There are probably a few gems out there among the billions but it won't mean much to us.
Have you ever seen the mid-90's NBC series called "Earth 2"? There was a bit of LandOfTheLostism, but other than that, i thought it was a series with a heck of a lot of potential. It was euthanized before Fox took it over and ran it into the ground.
Actually, we don't know that life isn't nearby. I mean, look at some of the SETI literature. When you consider the amount of the sky that we have scanned, and estimate the maximum detection distance for a planet emitting the amount of radio signals that earth is now, you'll find that we only really know that there isn't life in the <1% of the Orion Arm that we have scanned. Plus, you are discounting the idea that maybe there are significantly better means of communication.
Yes, I know (at least partly). I know it has already been launched, but it will be a month or so before the operation begins, and at least a year before we get any detections at all.
. there is every possiblity of a planet similar to earth in the universe .. in fact . Venus is very similar in all parameters, gravity, size , orbital pattern ( give or take) just because another planet may be the same size as earth means not alot .. i think venus was an earth like planet billions of years ago , and Mars will be the next earth , when we have gone and so on as the planets get closer to the sun or the Sun expires...
I am aware of all this, and I am not trying to dispute it (as for some reason everyone thinks I am). However, they won't even begin the search operation until about 60 days after launch, and confirmed detection will likely take a year of observations. You don't have to convince me... I think that this operation will almost certainly find dozens if not hundreds of Earth-like planets and, while confirmation is not yet possible, it will likely discover planets harboring some form of life. AWESOME.
. what about the voyager expedition to the outer edges of our solar system( is it still going???) Titan ..one of saturns moons , i think . is very similar to our earth
Way outside the habitable zone. This robe is built to find not only eart-sized planets, but earth-sized planets that are very close to the sun (as opposed to out where gas giants can exist, where the solar wind is weaker. I think that there is really a lot of them out there, just waiting to be found.
In 2006, there was an astronomer that was looking at a triple system, but because of the credibility issues attacted to new discoveries, in order to make sure that her information was incontrovertible, she said it would take about 2 years before she published her findings.
So that makes approx 340 planets potentially significantly more. And like some other scientists have said, I'd be happy with slime mold.
Good video. There is a large difference between life and intelligent life. I believe the evolution of life is common in the universe. But getting from a bacteria to an intelligent being takes a whole lot of luck, both good and bad. The Drake Equation examines the odds. Carl Sagan, whom I admire, usually plugged in optimistic numbers to come up with many advanced civilizations in the galaxy. I am more pessimistic about the ability of intelligent life to evolve and, more importantly, survive.
i especialy like the ending where u say the religious will evntualy realize they hav thingz in common w/ the rest of us. thatz very true.Gearsofwar haz a similar scene.war iz being waged against an alien-like species and the human soldiers are wishing they still had the help of soldiers who died in previous wars. wars against other humans.how many livez have we lost fighting ourselvez?we may have just sealed our fate to be extinguished by a more powerful race in the future.
You give the fundamentalist Christians too much credit. If they can say that the universe is 6,000 years old and that Evolution is a myth, then I doubt the finding of Oxygen will have any effect or even that they will believe it.
You most certainly can say that the probability just based in our galaxy (not counting the billions of other galaxies in the universe) is really high.
The Kepler station is actually a very bad thing for us. If it's found by another intelligent species (who of course will be more advanced, since they can retrieve it) they'll be able to find out about Earth. Earth is a good planet with some valuable resources. If they find our Earth, and they want to take over and/or enslave us, how are we going to stop them? We're screwed if an aggressive species gets to us the way we are now. A friendly species might help us, but it's not worth the risk.
Kepler is NOT a station. It's a special kind of space telescope. It will not leave our solar system. It won't get really very far from Earth at all. And it will be a a long, long, LONG time before we can send a "probe" close enough to another star for it to be "retreived" by some hypothetical alien living there.
I hope you are not older than 11. Your understanding is that of a child. I'm not insulting you. I'm advising you. If you're interested in space read about it, and NOT in UFO books.
Hey spooky guy, with the black background. The closest known planet like earth is 90 light years away. That means at the speed of light it would take 90 years to get there. At light speed mind you. Need I say more? So no matter how many hunks of metal you shoot into space we will never reach these planets. Your assumptions about religion based a rocket being fired into space makes you a dreamer. or better yet a schemer.
I remember, back in school, my class went on a field trip to a Mormon church. One thing I remember quite vividly was when the preacher was asked if he believed in life on other planets, whereas he replied "Absolutely". Ofcourse it later turned that he believed they would look just like us, with the whole "god created us in his image".
I guess my point is that even if we got a picture of planet with oxygen, with life. That wouldn't really change that much for, but hopefully it will for some.
I would sure hope that when we leave our planet we leave our dogmas too and don't start plaguing the rest of our galaxy with our beliefs. But that will be for further and hopefully more reasonable generations to decide.
Great stuff! Interestingly though I think you and I have already lived through the single most important moment in history - ever, bar none. On 21/7/69 man broke free from the gravitational prison which has ruled our lives - and all living things since life began - a change in kind that was unprecedented. Everything follows from this - and the landings on that first New Earth which will occur at some timein the future became inevitable at that moment.
I just don't get it. Maybe I'm not a "lunatic christian", but I do consider myself a christian and I can't see how discovering life outside solar system can be frightening to me. I think that it's highly probable that life is quite common along the universe. Even some intelligent forms. And still I don't have a feeling that it collides with my belief in the God. Just like evolution, big bang and so on. I am not a fundamentalist. I don't think that Bible should be read literally. Maybe that's it.
That IS it. You do not take the Bible literally. You are NOT, in my book, a "lunatic Christian". If the evidence for the big bang and evolution compel you to give them some credence then you have some ratiionality.
How do you feel about the idea of a god impregnating a virgin with "mind-sperm"? Surely you believe THAT "literally"? You MUST, simply to call yourself a Christian. I'd be interested in your thoughts as you actually might have some. :)
As far as I know a limmaculate conception is theoretically possible. There was no confirmed human case yet. There's one catch, though - after limmaculate conception it should be a girl born and not a boy. But maybe there is some scientific explanation - I just don't know. I've been watching your videos for quite a while and I think that some of them are inspiring in a way. I think you're good man and I believe God won't reject good people - muslims, atheists, christians. Keep your work, Phil.
according to catholic dogma, the immaculate conception is the conception of the virgin mary, who was therefore, born without the stain of original sin. so. it was a girl. it's a silly story, but, well, there it is. jesus was a virgin birth, not an immaculate conception.
Disagreed. It's not a silly story. If it was it wouldn't attract so many people.
Not many people know that ACCORDING TO BIBLE Mary wasn't a virgin whole her life. After Jesus was born she had sex intercourses with Josef. Also many people doesn't know that Jesus had brothers - sons of Mary and Josef. Unfortunately I know where to look for those fragments only in polish version of Bible. I don't have an english one.
did i say that mary remained a virgin her whole life? did i say that i believe that mary was a virgin when jesus was born? no. on both counts. it's a silly story, no matter how many people are attracted to it. it's a myth. what i attempted to point out is that it is mary who is the immaculate conception, not jesus. he's a virgin birth. one of many in ancient times, it seems. mithra. horus. all the same story, different slants. it's poppycock.
sure you care. you want me to get into lock step and think that a millenia old fairy tale is true. of course you do. best of luck, my ass. how hypocritical of you.
So you think that you're important! :D I don't give a shit. Apparently you're confused - it's the organisation of church that needs you to believe. To me your faith is as important as last winters snow. Maybe someday you will realize what's the difference between disagreeing with somebody and trying to convince him.
so. are you saying you don't care? if this relationship is going to work, one of us just HAS to care. okay. i'll do it. but, boy, you'd better be worth it.
thanks. so. you come here often? i think phil is great. course, he knows so much more than me that i struggle with a lot of it. his vids, though, have helped me to focus and to articulate just how my lack of belief occurred. and that's a good thing. wouldn't want to mess it up with a donnybrook over nothing. as it were.
I have really no doubt there are other earth-like planets with life in our galaxy, given the hundreds of billions of stars. But, I would think they would be quite rare. And how many factors would have to be within an acceptable range to support human life. Then, there is the bigger question of how can we possibly get there alive. Sorry to be a naysayer, and I may be wrong, but I think the human species will remain confined to our solar system. Or, can you enlighten me?
There is one way to travel between stars that should be possible if we will gather enough energy. The problem is that there's not enough energy in whole solar system. So unless we gonna discover some massive source of energy we can forget it. Imagine balloon. Put one finger at one side and another at opposite side and now push until you'll touch one finger with the other. In theory we can do the same with space and travel when it's malformed. As far as I know there is no other way.
if this turns out in favor of us in the atheist community and we DO find life...Boy oh boy would i kill to see the look on venomfangx's face when he hears the word.
the question i often ask myself is are if we humans are really as precious as we believe ourselves to be? or are we just as equally insignifigant? it would be somewhat enlightening, though, if such discoveries of possible life elsewhere in our universe were made in my lifetime. and i hope we make them.
Although there's probably life out there, there's a high degree of certainty that only Earth has humans. If we are gone, we're gone. Self importance is just a point of view anyway. Just enjoy your life.
Yes - this technique relies on the plane of the exo-planets orbit being within a small angle of of our line of sight. So if it has to be plus or minus 1 degrees then we will miss the majority - assuming the angle of orbits are distributed randomly.
Even so - if we look at 10,000 we should see a few!
(All my numbers are approx - back of the envelope )
I liked your video until the last part when you gave that condescending lecture on how the ignorant Christians will quake in their shoes when you atheists will come down from up high and impart the wisdom of the universe to the ignorant :rolleyes: Christians (nor Muslims) are not some monolithic group that has only a fourth grade education and think the sky is flat. Yes, believe it or not, there are Christians that believe in extraterrestrial life and science.
I have to agree with, I happen to believe there is life on other planets...but intelligent life is very rare. As hospitable and inhospitable our planet can be at the same time, life can survive in very destructive extremes like heat and cold. If life can exist in those conditions on earth then it's bound to be out there. It's also possible that if there is intelligent life relatively close to our solar system it's likely to be primitive.
Antimidation 1 week ago
agreed and a similar history for myself, it is odd however haw man seems to have a drive to bring scifi into reality !! , I saw an experiment done in the uk where they in fact proved teleportation is possible ...using an ion across the thames ! ,I further agree the photo takes was inspirational and well worth the risk and the good old british answer !! lmao (we will cut the fingers off your bowmen , if memory serves ) great video !! and this is my start point in your catalogue :) best wishes :)
dooksization 2 months ago
does it need to be the same size as the earth or does it just need the same mass? so the gravity is similar.
aaron90h 2 months ago
Even if the human race destroys itself, wrecks the planet, etc. I do not lament for it. It is obvious to anyone with an atom of a brain that the Cosmos is host to a choir of life. The story of existence will go on, the glory of cruising the stars will go to a more rational species. The Earth will stand quiet for a time then reawaken and give rise to another world of life as it always has. The fact that I can KNOW this truth is enough to let me be happy and rejoice despite the chaos and despair.
Eyes8577 5 months ago
@Eyes8577 So true, happy to read some one thinking that to... We're part of something so much bigger and the universe is so young yet, we're around an only second generation star...
Acrimonator 4 months ago
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It warms my heart or "soul" if you will, to find someone who was as excited about this as i was. When you paused before you said "Well in my case....." i aloud filled in the blank with one word, "astonishing".
TheRantingsofaMadman 6 months ago
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TheRantingsofaMadman 6 months ago
Actually I'm not sure a religious person would have more in common with an atheist then an alien.
I'm sure there's moronic religious aliens. Not that they'd like eachother, because they'd hold to different religions, same as how christians and muslims don't necessarily like eachother in spite of just being variations of eachother far as I'm concerned. But they undeniably would have more in common with religious aliens then atheists of their own species.
TheSkunkCat 6 months ago
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Plus to reverse it, I'd much rather deal with a pleasant sensible alien then say some bigoted shitwad like Fred Phelps. and I'd probably have more in common with the alien.
TheSkunkCat 6 months ago
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I mean I just don't hold to the idea that aliens would bring people closer together. Unless they are hostile, but if they are they'd exterminate us with ease if they are able to come here. They could just lob an asteroid at us at lightspeed from beyond Pluto's orbit and we'd be all dead a few minutes later.
And if they aren't hostile, well.. unfortunately some people'll be bigoted even some people not bigoted against any other humans. But I wouldn't be.
TheSkunkCat 6 months ago
I agree about how simple minded people would laugh those kinds of images off. My religous friend didn't think anything of the Hubble Deep Field image but I was in awe of the image and couldn't understand how people could think that we are the most important beings in the world. It's amazing to see how vast the universe is. Truly amazing.
1bzoe 7 months ago
There are hundreds of billions of stars in a typical galaxy, and perhaps around 200-500 billion galaxies. If only a tiny, itty-bitty fraction of stars has intelligent life on them, that would still be millions of civilizations across the universe. We don't know they're there, but the odds seem to favor it.
If it's true, does this mean Jesus has to visit each one and be crucified over and over again to save their souls? If not, why should the Earth be favored or require something they don't?
DandAinTac 7 months ago
SCIENCE!
TheGeneralCritic 7 months ago
A little Knowledge is very dangerous....If you can even begin to understand the greatness of our GOD,you would realise very quickly how little we know. MARANATHANA
pineappleseer 7 months ago
The Catholic Church already has plans to start missions to foreign world. And when I say "missions" I mean it in the historical context of missionary work. They fully intend to spread their brand of Christianity to as many worlds as possible if they can.
FlowCell 8 months ago
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Great vidio
TheWholefoodfarmacy 8 months ago
Great vidio
satellitetune 8 months ago
A united Earth. Imagine it Earth unifed as one nation, one planet, one government. Ruled by reason and logic. Driven by our dreams and aspirations. Where everyone has a voice. Everyone has value. This is the kind if world that our current religions keep us from having. If everyone just broke their chains of ignorance, we could have this reality. Just imagine it.
viczam9 9 months ago
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scotchlouis 9 months ago
While I doubt it will happen in my lifetime, I so eagerly await the discovery of life on other planets, and I hope it does happen in my lifetime.
Such a profound discovery that will be. It almost makes me weep at the prospect.
GermanChocolateCake 11 months ago
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Whatever4690 1 year ago
I understand the same feeling but i don't know if humankind can get passed its xenophobia long enough to try and converse or understand another race. We can hardly understand ourselves given the splitting and waring multi-factions on this planet.
corey8144 1 year ago
Lets hope we as a society continue to realize the importance of these types of missions and other scientific endeavors. Given our failing education system, lack of funding for scientific research, growing fundamentalism, and the overall lack of interest in the sciences among Americans, that hope seems more and more like a pipe dream. I hope I'm wrong.
pilotwave 1 year ago
I dunno why its a popular belief that a completely alien race on a different world is sure to use radio waves for communication when they could very well of developed a different system of senses that led them to develop and use entirely different branches of tech that could be useless to us, but majorly useful for them. The truth is until we get our butts out there or another race comes on over and gives us the low down, we won't know who/what is out there and what tech is in use.
TheDarkLighter0 1 year ago
1:19 Aaah! OH FUCK! Oh shhh--no... wait... oh, it's cool. Continue.
MarknessMusic 1 year ago
I wish you could stop talking about religion.
baxteru 1 year ago
@baxteru
Hey, me too - I wish we could ALL stop talking about religion and finally put those fairy tales to dust on the shelf where they belong.
Kinda sick of hearing 2000 year old "good news"
kirkey99 1 year ago
@kirkey99 No. I meant he could do himself a favor .... you know? just in case... :)
Why would we stop talking about religion? But be honest and fear.
baxteru 1 year ago
@philhellenes Imagine, somewhere in the universe, perhaps Andromeda, a another being is making a video about discovering life elsewhere in the universe. If we can, there's a chance it could happen again...right?
JayDee98765 1 year ago
On Facebook recently, people were talking about the possibility of life being on maybe 1 in 4 planets. One guy chimed in with, "The interesting question is not about life, but about whether it is fallen." I responded with, "Oh good grief." which inspired a pile of vitriole from the 'fallen' guy.
But he was right In a way; it is an interesting question. Though I don't know how it could be tested. If alien life IS discovered and found to be not fallen (of course), where will the gods be then?
aybeeplus 1 year ago
They'll claim the extra terrestrial life from the devil. (religious people) And also, an intelligent civilization wouldn't be using radio signals. Humans only use on radio type signal and I believe it's hydrogen or something. Michio Kaku talked about it.
Germanboy567 1 year ago
The thought of finding another Earth is such an exciting prospect. If people decide to go there and create a new civilization (because we're fucking up Earth, and we probably won't be able to stay here much longer), would it be too far to ever come back? By the time people got there, would everyone they knew on Earth be dead?
And most importantly - would only non religious people and those with high IQs be allowed to go, so that the new "Earth" would be governed by intelligence and reason? XD
addictedtolearning 1 year ago
there are other planets out there and they do have life.
why would they not?
when the universe was created/began etc other soalr systems were made and that would mean that there would be some that also have life (of some form)
all of the planets would have evolved in the same way at the same pace and the same time would they not?
so would they not have advanced life on them.
and if they did.to be honest.i think they would be smarter than humans too.remeber that earth was interferred with...
golickacat 1 year ago
Its gotta be out there!, ... just gotta be.
The same question, the same conclusionnI bet, is being made / arrived at out there more times than we ever imagined!.
M0THERKN0WSBEST 1 year ago
theres 8 now-_-,everything iv learned about pluto is a lie
RiVa667 1 year ago
I agree with you for the most part, but there are some things I have my own possible ideas about. But you guys should watch a kid's animation cartoon called Planet 51. Although it's animated and stuff, it talks about the ignorance of believing there is no other life. Hope you guys enjoy it. :)
LeHizik 1 year ago
Aaah, yes the Kepler! The Kepler will probably allow us to calculate how many Earths there should roughly be in our galaxy I think. And if we can detect these Earth's atmosphere's, and take a good look at the ages of the stars these Earths orbits, even how many of these planets should probably have complex life.
After that it's a tossup, but if there's ALOT of those, chances are there's a few intelligent aliens around.
I'd have to see one first, but that's the point you can say it's likely.
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak
Of course if the Kepler shows Earths are very RARE, then even if there are aliens, they'd be in other galaxies probably at best. In which case no human will likely ever see an intelligent alien, or talk to one long distance.
I'm kind of skeptical about intelligent aliens. Not because I think it's impossible so much. I'd just have to see one first.
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak
If you'd ask me what I'd WANT though, I'd want for the Earth to be unique.
Maybe that'd inspire people to actually take CARE of it, instead of treating it like shit.
I don't think that is the case, but I think I'd like Kepler to fail to find Earths, which goes to show that Earth is our only chance and which would finally get the truth through everyone's skulls allready: If Earth dies, we die. End of story.
And then we can ACT like that.
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak
Still if there ARE aliens, I don't think it'd bring people closer together.
I'd rather be friends with an open-minded alien with similar views, then some raving fundie bigot who hates me on general principle. And I'd feel closer to the alien, and enjoy the aliens company more.
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak
I mean if there ARE aliens, either they'll just be the same sort of schmucks (inside at least, they might LOOK quite different.) as us. Which means a small handful of them are cool, most are your typical schmo's and a few are really really annoying. But you know, the okay ones will probably be fun.
Or alternatively they'll be these big computer brains we can't relate to, and compared to which we'd be like ants.
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
Of course we'll try again. What else would we do with all that time? -:)
Mrmoc7 2 years ago
Brilliantly put!!
Canuckeirs 2 years ago
'If' intelligent life is found on another planet, the religious will just morph their fairy tale to accept it into their dogma."
...Like everything that actually proves their god to be nonsense, they will try to twist it to say that actually proves their god.
Carl Sagan said in Cosmos that simple life could be common but multi-cellular life is probably very rare.
jimbrown257 2 years ago 8
They'll claim dominion over them, which will piss off the aliens, who will then kill us.
GnosticDjinn 2 years ago 7
lol, It'll be like on south park...
missionary: "There are aliens??? And they aren't christian?!?!?!?"
Cartman: "Yeah, I know! It's the greatest thing ever!"
infectingthecrypts 1 year ago
'If' intelligent life is found on another planet, the religious will just morph their fairy tale to accept it into their dogma.
On a side note about radio signals. It is said that after 1 or 2 light years, the signals (from Earth) after that distance are diluted into white noise.
xIntoThePitx 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Actually it won't discredit Islam at all.
65:12 It is Allah Who has created seven heavens, and earths as many
They will claim it is a miracle of the Quran, and it was common belief at the time that there was only 1 Earth with life.
What would be funny though is if we were able to make contact with life, and they revealed there is only one God Allah and Muhammad was his messenger.
I would find that most amusing :-)
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
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ISDP1337 2 years ago
@AlRasuwl
Yeah becuase the prophet Muhammad is a murdering pedophile...
pugsley141 1 year ago
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AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Heres hoping our generation opens a doorway to scientific expansion of a sale never understood before.
if monotheisms can be stopped, I imagine the entire solar system being colonized by 2150, and from there, greater technologies with construction based in space will create fantastic information gathering tools.
AntiChristAntiFail 2 years ago
this is the dogs ' .
taking things to thier logical conclusion is a human trait.
mauvejelly 2 years ago
I look forward to that day too, Phil. Like you, I'll no doubt shed a tear of joy.
Blankfrack 2 years ago
inter galactic wars
upgradecheese 2 years ago
This video is great.
tgseason12 2 years ago
I really love your videos, thank you!
TempestWriter 2 years ago
Love that passion and style. Informative and captivating.
BigMTBrain 2 years ago
something that occured to me when you mentioned fear of the alien.... wouldn't there be all kinds of nasty diseases there we have no immunity to? not like we would be going there any time soon. so much for my space vacation
tsumetaikage 2 years ago
(Sorry to necro this.)
The good news is that alien diseases probably won't know what to do with you either. Disease transfer between species only seems to happen when species share genetic history or have been living in the same environment for quite some time. The odds of you getting sick from an alien disease are in all likelihood considerably worse than you catching fin rot from your goldfish.
rkyeun 2 years ago
good point *self facepalm*
tsumetaikage 2 years ago
At only one and a half times the radius of Earth, Gliese 581 C is the third and smallest planet to be discovered orbiting a Red Dwarf star located 20.5 light years away in the constellation Libra and the first one to approach the Earth's size. The planet resides in the star's "Goldilocks Zone" where liquid water --and life could occur. The team of Swiss, French and Portuguese astronomers used the European Southern Observatory's 3.6 m telescope to make this incredible discovery.
masterwatermage 2 years ago
Nice video, i was looking forward to the Kepler launch for a long time, I'm happy everything works fine and the scientific mission has officially begun around may 12th. I'm also looking forward to seeing new pictures of Planck, Herschel and Hubble, which was recently repaired and improved significantly. For me personally there is no question IF we will find life out there. The question is only WHEN we will "officially" realize that we are not alone in this gigantic universe
nightshadowblade 2 years ago
I don't think there is any question of wether there is another Earth like planet in the universe, look how big it is. It's how far away is it, and how the hell are we gonna get there!
toggsuk 2 years ago
warp drive!!!!
element1988 2 years ago
Which Books , I like the same stuff
leppy111 2 years ago
I don';t know if I'd move to another planet for colonisation. It would be like saying goodbye to your mother. Earth is the mother to all. Cruel she can be but she's still your mother and sustains us. No I'd remain at first and let the more inquisitive go then perhaps visit. I'm an earth bound man. I can look at the stars and dream but not actually go through with it that I shall leave to others more adventurous then myself
LiberateBDesh 2 years ago 2
Great video. Reminds me of the high contrast remix videos by Liquicity (username). This isn't spam by the way! I wasn't aware that this mission had been started. I should start reading the New Scientist. PS 'What Islam Fears: Laughter' is unbelievably funny, how thick can some people be!!
b34rh34d 2 years ago
If they do find Earth #2 can we please ban all religious people from ever setting foot on it. It would be so nice to have somewhere that wasn't full of bigotry.
sssock 2 years ago 40
@sssock Considering sentience,there's probably bigotry on all worlds with sentient life
gallileotheguineapig 11 months ago
@sssock >Post full of bigotry.
u mad?
discopete117 11 months ago
@discopete117 It's a paradox.
PowerfrogsBeotch 8 months ago
@sssock But that would be bigotry not letting them on XD fuck what am I saying? Fuck them they can keep the old Earth.
Zombieslam666 7 months ago
@sssock
No worries about that. The human race will never get out of the solar system. I'd say human civilization already has terminal twin cancer, capitalism and overpopulation. Those two are bound to drain the earth of resources to the point that society'll collapse long before the human race would get even near the level of technology to a manned mission to as much as jupiter.
TheSkunkCat 6 months ago
@sssock
C'mon... Irony. Don't ban religous people - educate them
Or Just make the new worlds entrance requirement a degree in any valid scientific discipline.
Callirgos1 4 months ago
Great video , but you just can't help yourself with the bold almost fact like statements slowdown i know it's exiting , but slowdown
CHASCHARLTON 2 years ago 2
This is a great Video!
FactVsReligion 2 years ago
It's a great subject. To me, it's THE subject, always was.
philhellenes 2 years ago
fomalhaut is 60 light years away. by the way keep up the great work man! i love all ur videos
Germanboy567 2 years ago
Please. Don't argue with a flawless human being such as myself. You'll only look silly. Fomalhaut is approx. 25 light years away.
Anyone can search it.
philhellenes 2 years ago
oh sorry. i wasnt arguing by the way. i got mixed up by some other star. there are trillions billions and infinity stars so yeah i got a little mixed up.
Germanboy567 2 years ago
No probs. Thought my perfection was being questioned. ^^ :)
philhellenes 2 years ago
haha that put a smile on my face. =D
Germanboy567 2 years ago
Couldn't be mean to my 8,000th subscriber. :)
Thank YOU!
philhellenes 2 years ago
no it could not. lol your welcome
Germanboy567 2 years ago
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeah
RabidApe 2 years ago 2
May science prevail and save us from another Dark Age!
Blackwater578 2 years ago 36
@Blackwater578 The equation to that possibility could possibly be (The global amount of religious people who truly believed that science is bullshit and God exist) / (The Global amount of Atheists who believed that God is currently unproven and religions should go) * 100%.
Result> 100% =end of mankind
Result< 100% =No New Dark Age:)
Works more like a baseline but better than speaking abstract and vague dumb concepts :)
ImAnotherZang 1 year ago
I ask myself, at what distance we can directly detect the earth's life? (ignoring intelligent signals).
jotatsu 2 years ago
Keplar's successful launch is cause for celebration indeed! I am looking forward to whatever it will find - a potential Earth #2 would be beyond awesome.
Stegocephalian 2 years ago 2
340 AND COUNTING!
sfluxi 2 years ago
357 as of aug 2009 AND COUNTING!
source: planetquest
Jacnas 2 years ago
This mission is great and all but lets remember the distances involved between star systems. Even if we find another Earth or some perfectly suited planet for humans, it would take thousands of years, if not millions, to get there. We cannot even achieve 1% of the speed of light. There is no guarantee that we'll ever be able to leave our star system, this might be a reason why we haven't been visited by intelligent lifeforms.
hotch1776 2 years ago
i agree . there i every possiblity of a planet similar to earth in the universe .. in fact . Venus is very similar in all parameters, gravity, size , orbital pattern ( give or take) just because another planet may be the same size as earth means not alot .. i think venus was an earth like planet billions of years ago , and Mars will be the next earth , when we have gone and so on as the planets get closer to the sun (so called 'global warming') or the Sun expires... Far out.
siliconchipped 2 years ago
Global warming is not caused by the Earth getting closer to the sun, rather its caused by the greenhouse effect. Seasons are caused by the tilt of the Earth's axis.
hotch1776 2 years ago 2
thanks . sorry got a bit mixed up ..
siliconchipped 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
nearest galaxy with humanlike inteligent life is, unfortunatelly, NGC 300 - far around 7 Mly from here,
then also M82, NGC 5128 and NGC 4395
illuminatislut 2 years ago
aww, this gave me goosebumps!
CanHAzCake 2 years ago
If we are successful in discovering intelligent life on planets orbiting other stars, pitty those poor aliens. It won't be long before those evangelists set up radio transmitters and start the first interstellar ministry, beamin' the word of the Lord to all those wretched alien sinners!
andypdq 2 years ago 3
So are you suggesting that any carbon burning life forms that can be reflective (intelligent) will attempt to sell an idea of themselves living after death in order to escape working for a living?
Interesting ...
Trollschool 2 years ago
I think its unlikely we'll find something with abundant life. Not only does it have to be the right mass and distance from the right type of sun, but it will need a satellite (moon) with the right mass revolving around it to keep the atmosphere from being blown away by the solar wind.
There are probably a few gems out there among the billions but it won't mean much to us.
Trollschool 2 years ago
Hi Phil,
Have you ever seen the mid-90's NBC series called "Earth 2"? There was a bit of LandOfTheLostism, but other than that, i thought it was a series with a heck of a lot of potential. It was euthanized before Fox took it over and ran it into the ground.
SaganAppreciationSoc 2 years ago
Actually, we don't know that life isn't nearby. I mean, look at some of the SETI literature. When you consider the amount of the sky that we have scanned, and estimate the maximum detection distance for a planet emitting the amount of radio signals that earth is now, you'll find that we only really know that there isn't life in the <1% of the Orion Arm that we have scanned. Plus, you are discounting the idea that maybe there are significantly better means of communication.
generaleskimo 2 years ago
This is the most awesome space mission ever.
generaleskimo 2 years ago
its been done already
siliconchipped 2 years ago
Yes, I know (at least partly). I know it has already been launched, but it will be a month or so before the operation begins, and at least a year before we get any detections at all.
generaleskimo 2 years ago
. there is every possiblity of a planet similar to earth in the universe .. in fact . Venus is very similar in all parameters, gravity, size , orbital pattern ( give or take) just because another planet may be the same size as earth means not alot .. i think venus was an earth like planet billions of years ago , and Mars will be the next earth , when we have gone and so on as the planets get closer to the sun or the Sun expires...
siliconchipped 2 years ago
I am aware of all this, and I am not trying to dispute it (as for some reason everyone thinks I am). However, they won't even begin the search operation until about 60 days after launch, and confirmed detection will likely take a year of observations. You don't have to convince me... I think that this operation will almost certainly find dozens if not hundreds of Earth-like planets and, while confirmation is not yet possible, it will likely discover planets harboring some form of life. AWESOME.
generaleskimo 2 years ago
. what about the voyager expedition to the outer edges of our solar system( is it still going???) Titan ..one of saturns moons , i think . is very similar to our earth
siliconchipped 2 years ago
Way outside the habitable zone. This robe is built to find not only eart-sized planets, but earth-sized planets that are very close to the sun (as opposed to out where gas giants can exist, where the solar wind is weaker. I think that there is really a lot of them out there, just waiting to be found.
generaleskimo 2 years ago
In 2006, there was an astronomer that was looking at a triple system, but because of the credibility issues attacted to new discoveries, in order to make sure that her information was incontrovertible, she said it would take about 2 years before she published her findings.
So that makes approx 340 planets potentially significantly more. And like some other scientists have said, I'd be happy with slime mold.
Eldrave20 2 years ago
cheers
okapitheif 2 years ago
phil man .. youre too much ( although be it . very logical and brilliant to match .) love your vids . keep on trucking
siliconchipped 2 years ago
on life outside the solar system--- we want to know its not just us who's "this miserable".
fucknhairybastard 2 years ago
Good video. There is a large difference between life and intelligent life. I believe the evolution of life is common in the universe. But getting from a bacteria to an intelligent being takes a whole lot of luck, both good and bad. The Drake Equation examines the odds. Carl Sagan, whom I admire, usually plugged in optimistic numbers to come up with many advanced civilizations in the galaxy. I am more pessimistic about the ability of intelligent life to evolve and, more importantly, survive.
strikeaway 2 years ago
Just finished watching all your vids, Phil. Great stuff, love em. =)
Ibitsae 2 years ago 2
ALL of them? really? That's a LOT of time.
Now I feel guilty. But I am, of course, very flattered at the same time.
philhellenes 2 years ago
i especialy like the ending where u say the religious will evntualy realize they hav thingz in common w/ the rest of us. thatz very true.Gearsofwar haz a similar scene.war iz being waged against an alien-like species and the human soldiers are wishing they still had the help of soldiers who died in previous wars. wars against other humans.how many livez have we lost fighting ourselvez?we may have just sealed our fate to be extinguished by a more powerful race in the future.
twitchez2k 2 years ago
this editing makes you look like george carlin
comeasyouare1989 2 years ago
I've always fealt that there must be something out there. I hope we discover evidence of life other than on our planet in my lifetime.
yhavegod 2 years ago
good video
informative....
th3inquisitiv31 2 years ago
Imagine: Less than four years from now, we'll know whether we really are all alone in this galaxy-neighborhood. Amazing.
A very moving video. Thanks.
1Weemaryanne 2 years ago
Oops, sorry, I didn't mean that _humans_ may not be alone, I meant that _earth-like planets_ may not be alone.
1Weemaryanne 2 years ago
hell yea man ! star wars ! bout to become a reality
thelastemperor909 2 years ago
yeah lol ! HUMANS WILL CONQEUR THE UNIVERSE!
=D
arelius536 2 years ago
You give the fundamentalist Christians too much credit. If they can say that the universe is 6,000 years old and that Evolution is a myth, then I doubt the finding of Oxygen will have any effect or even that they will believe it.
jgoemat 2 years ago
Yeh, thats what went through my mind as well.
THEoldy 2 years ago
The best! Im so happy to!
Akesson1986 2 years ago
there has to be life out there. huge possibility
thelastemperor909 2 years ago
You most certainly can say that the probability just based in our galaxy (not counting the billions of other galaxies in the universe) is really high.
I personaly can't wait.
Domzdream 2 years ago
An exciting time to be alive.
pizzathehutt47 2 years ago
100,000,000 billion galaxies, each with 100,000,000 stars in our observable universe.
ndjarnag 2 years ago
I only hope I live long enough...
Elcristoph 2 years ago
Nicely said
toaster939 2 years ago
The Kepler station is actually a very bad thing for us. If it's found by another intelligent species (who of course will be more advanced, since they can retrieve it) they'll be able to find out about Earth. Earth is a good planet with some valuable resources. If they find our Earth, and they want to take over and/or enslave us, how are we going to stop them? We're screwed if an aggressive species gets to us the way we are now. A friendly species might help us, but it's not worth the risk.
Darzaire 2 years ago
Kepler is NOT a station. It's a special kind of space telescope. It will not leave our solar system. It won't get really very far from Earth at all. And it will be a a long, long, LONG time before we can send a "probe" close enough to another star for it to be "retreived" by some hypothetical alien living there.
I hope you are not older than 11. Your understanding is that of a child. I'm not insulting you. I'm advising you. If you're interested in space read about it, and NOT in UFO books.
philhellenes 2 years ago
I say the knowledge to be gained is worth the risk. I say if we see oxygen on other planets, we should send messages.
jgoemat 2 years ago
But what if other life forms don't breathe oxygen? That's assuming they are similar in biological composition like us.
What if they breathed acid, ate sulfer, and defecated butterflies?
Space butterflies?
JerkwaterJones 2 years ago 2
Hey spooky guy, with the black background. The closest known planet like earth is 90 light years away. That means at the speed of light it would take 90 years to get there. At light speed mind you. Need I say more? So no matter how many hunks of metal you shoot into space we will never reach these planets. Your assumptions about religion based a rocket being fired into space makes you a dreamer. or better yet a schemer.
VinylLPs 2 years ago
Great video.
basrost66 2 years ago 2
I remember, back in school, my class went on a field trip to a Mormon church. One thing I remember quite vividly was when the preacher was asked if he believed in life on other planets, whereas he replied "Absolutely". Ofcourse it later turned that he believed they would look just like us, with the whole "god created us in his image".
I guess my point is that even if we got a picture of planet with oxygen, with life. That wouldn't really change that much for, but hopefully it will for some.
CommanderTank2k 2 years ago
Aha, one step closer to atheists dominating the galaxy... wooop woop! :)
Davey850 2 years ago
I would sure hope that when we leave our planet we leave our dogmas too and don't start plaguing the rest of our galaxy with our beliefs. But that will be for further and hopefully more reasonable generations to decide.
omegavalerius 2 years ago 2
Aye, I wish I would have been born 4 or 5 generations into the future (asuming that we dont destroy ourselves tomorrow).
Davey850 2 years ago
Great stuff! Interestingly though I think you and I have already lived through the single most important moment in history - ever, bar none. On 21/7/69 man broke free from the gravitational prison which has ruled our lives - and all living things since life began - a change in kind that was unprecedented. Everything follows from this - and the landings on that first New Earth which will occur at some timein the future became inevitable at that moment.
voxelator 2 years ago
I just don't get it. Maybe I'm not a "lunatic christian", but I do consider myself a christian and I can't see how discovering life outside solar system can be frightening to me. I think that it's highly probable that life is quite common along the universe. Even some intelligent forms. And still I don't have a feeling that it collides with my belief in the God. Just like evolution, big bang and so on. I am not a fundamentalist. I don't think that Bible should be read literally. Maybe that's it.
Kozaack 2 years ago
That IS it. You do not take the Bible literally. You are NOT, in my book, a "lunatic Christian". If the evidence for the big bang and evolution compel you to give them some credence then you have some ratiionality.
How do you feel about the idea of a god impregnating a virgin with "mind-sperm"? Surely you believe THAT "literally"? You MUST, simply to call yourself a Christian. I'd be interested in your thoughts as you actually might have some. :)
philhellenes 2 years ago
As far as I know a limmaculate conception is theoretically possible. There was no confirmed human case yet. There's one catch, though - after limmaculate conception it should be a girl born and not a boy. But maybe there is some scientific explanation - I just don't know. I've been watching your videos for quite a while and I think that some of them are inspiring in a way. I think you're good man and I believe God won't reject good people - muslims, atheists, christians. Keep your work, Phil.
Kozaack 2 years ago
according to catholic dogma, the immaculate conception is the conception of the virgin mary, who was therefore, born without the stain of original sin. so. it was a girl. it's a silly story, but, well, there it is. jesus was a virgin birth, not an immaculate conception.
hobnailrose 2 years ago
Disagreed. It's not a silly story. If it was it wouldn't attract so many people.
Not many people know that ACCORDING TO BIBLE Mary wasn't a virgin whole her life. After Jesus was born she had sex intercourses with Josef. Also many people doesn't know that Jesus had brothers - sons of Mary and Josef. Unfortunately I know where to look for those fragments only in polish version of Bible. I don't have an english one.
Kozaack 2 years ago
did i say that mary remained a virgin her whole life? did i say that i believe that mary was a virgin when jesus was born? no. on both counts. it's a silly story, no matter how many people are attracted to it. it's a myth. what i attempted to point out is that it is mary who is the immaculate conception, not jesus. he's a virgin birth. one of many in ancient times, it seems. mithra. horus. all the same story, different slants. it's poppycock.
hobnailrose 2 years ago
You are free to say whatever you want. I really don't care what you believe in. Keep living your way. Best luck! :)
Kozaack 2 years ago
sure you care. you want me to get into lock step and think that a millenia old fairy tale is true. of course you do. best of luck, my ass. how hypocritical of you.
hobnailrose 2 years ago
So you think that you're important! :D I don't give a shit. Apparently you're confused - it's the organisation of church that needs you to believe. To me your faith is as important as last winters snow. Maybe someday you will realize what's the difference between disagreeing with somebody and trying to convince him.
Kozaack 2 years ago
so. are you saying you don't care? if this relationship is going to work, one of us just HAS to care. okay. i'll do it. but, boy, you'd better be worth it.
hobnailrose 2 years ago
It all seems so wrong. But ok, we can give it a try. :S
Kozaack 2 years ago
thanks. so. you come here often? i think phil is great. course, he knows so much more than me that i struggle with a lot of it. his vids, though, have helped me to focus and to articulate just how my lack of belief occurred. and that's a good thing. wouldn't want to mess it up with a donnybrook over nothing. as it were.
hobnailrose 2 years ago
I have really no doubt there are other earth-like planets with life in our galaxy, given the hundreds of billions of stars. But, I would think they would be quite rare. And how many factors would have to be within an acceptable range to support human life. Then, there is the bigger question of how can we possibly get there alive. Sorry to be a naysayer, and I may be wrong, but I think the human species will remain confined to our solar system. Or, can you enlighten me?
kenotube 2 years ago
There is one way to travel between stars that should be possible if we will gather enough energy. The problem is that there's not enough energy in whole solar system. So unless we gonna discover some massive source of energy we can forget it. Imagine balloon. Put one finger at one side and another at opposite side and now push until you'll touch one finger with the other. In theory we can do the same with space and travel when it's malformed. As far as I know there is no other way.
Kozaack 2 years ago
if this turns out in favor of us in the atheist community and we DO find life...Boy oh boy would i kill to see the look on venomfangx's face when he hears the word.
macwild1234 2 years ago
WOW!!! This is REALLY exciting! I too hope that I am alive when and if that day comes that there is OTHER LIFE out there!
ShredGal 2 years ago
the question i often ask myself is are if we humans are really as precious as we believe ourselves to be? or are we just as equally insignifigant? it would be somewhat enlightening, though, if such discoveries of possible life elsewhere in our universe were made in my lifetime. and i hope we make them.
idotechno 2 years ago
Although there's probably life out there, there's a high degree of certainty that only Earth has humans. If we are gone, we're gone. Self importance is just a point of view anyway. Just enjoy your life.
mewletter 2 years ago
Don't be ridiculous, philhellenes. The light we see, or could ever see, is merely apparent. It was Created only to test our Faith.
And why do you bother anyway?
hairyreasoner 2 years ago
Cool stuff! I knew this launch was coming up sometime soon - but it slipped by me.
If they find even one "earth like" planet it will be a big deal. I am hoping for an even dozen - within 100 light years.
8-)
richo61 2 years ago
what are the chances that such a planet would past between its star and us?
couldn't we miss a lot of planets?
ArcaneKarma 2 years ago
Yes - this technique relies on the plane of the exo-planets orbit being within a small angle of of our line of sight. So if it has to be plus or minus 1 degrees then we will miss the majority - assuming the angle of orbits are distributed randomly.
Even so - if we look at 10,000 we should see a few!
(All my numbers are approx - back of the envelope )
richo61 2 years ago
thank you for taking the time to explain that to me.
ArcaneKarma 2 years ago
Really very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
mollie2810 2 years ago
lovely transit at the end :-)
rozeboosje 2 years ago
Your story about how you moved from Science Fiction to Science sounds like mine. A LOT like mine.
rozeboosje 2 years ago
Beautiful video. Well done, Philhellenes. Being one of your subscribers continues to be a rewarding experience.
jfosterdyess 2 years ago
I liked your video until the last part when you gave that condescending lecture on how the ignorant Christians will quake in their shoes when you atheists will come down from up high and impart the wisdom of the universe to the ignorant :rolleyes: Christians (nor Muslims) are not some monolithic group that has only a fourth grade education and think the sky is flat. Yes, believe it or not, there are Christians that believe in extraterrestrial life and science.
CrossoverManiac 2 years ago
Calling Christians and Muslims 'lunatics' is sort of counter productive of your plan to bring everyone together with photos of aliens worlds.
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