I started listening to Iced Earth with Barlow, actually, Dark Saga was the first ever Iced Earth song.
Because of this, when I heard the album Framing Armageddon I was initially taken back because it featured Owens. For a while I actually really disliked that album, until of course I listened to it on a 5 hour drive, then it all started to make sense.
Now I actually really enjoy both voices just as equally as much.
FA was a near perfect album. I prefer Barlow over Owens but FA is such a beast of an album, I wouldn't want it to be altered just like Glorious Burden!
I think any real musician or anyone who actually learned anything about music knows that music at this level is not a competition. If anything, you can say you prefer Barlow's singing to Owens and viceversa. But this is not a contest, people, it's art.
Would be good if you guys learned this and stopped with the stupid remarks such as "owens is superior when it comes to the high stuff". That is so absurd. Maybe if this was a music school dealing with a couple of amateurs.
I think Owens' voice fit this song better than Barlow's. Not rippin on Barlow, it's just an opinion. I believe that Owens was their best vocalist, but I can't say that, cause I haven't heard their new one yet.
I personally prefer Owens' vocals for this song. But as for who's a better voice for the band... I know some fan have their preferences but in my opinion, both Barlow and Owens complete Iced Earth. Sure there are some individual songs that sound better sung by one or the other, but all in all, both are perfect singers for Iced Earth.
Matt's definitely got the better baritone voice in my opinion, but when reaching soprano range, Owens owns it. I prefer baritone voices though, so I really like hearing singers like Matt and Russell Allen.
I like Barlow and Owens evenly, all in all. Though quite honestly, I don't much like this song compared to Owens' version. Then again, I guess I also can't envision Owens doing a very good job on all the songs Barlow did (aside from the Coming Curse, that one he did do excellently, imo). I guess it's just a matter of what I'm used to from the original recordings, versus any re-recordings, with a tiny few exceptions.
@Rahavin1 there's "framing Armeggedon Part 1", which has this song on it, and there's "Glorious Burden", which is all about history: Attlila, Waterloo, Deceration Day, etc.
From a technical standpoint, it could be argued that Owens is a better singer, but I've always loved Barlow's ability to emote well. He sings with such overwhelming feeling (not to say Owens doesn;t have feeling). His voice resonates with me emotionally, especially in The Dark Saga.
i noticed some people build their judgment on how angry is the artist, neglecting or just not noticing the true identity and nature of each artist... they sound so funny and rediculously ignorant, not to mention unprofessional... but then most people today are like that, and this saddens me, exept it doesnt becoz i dont care, im just posting my opinion
rippers one is better:) i think? havent heard this song in a while? does ripper sing it as well? if he does its the better one, barlows not angry enough
I know this stuff is really getting old, but like every other son of a bitch out there on the web I too have an opinion that I am prepared to type into the little blue rectangle. Tim did the song WAYYYY better than Matt.
I got into the band after Barlow left so I really loved Owens but since then Ive come to putting Barlow one notch above, as for this song its Owens song I highly doubt the ripper can pull off lets say A question of heaven as well as Barlow because thats a Barlow style. I love both singers and I love Iced Earth one of my favorite bands \m/
Okay, I love Barlow, but I simply have to give the nod to Owens for this song, he sounded WAY better than Barlow did when singing this song, as he did with Ten Thousand Strong, Barlow is a great singer, but I feel he should stay away from any songs that were done with Owens at the helm.
I definatly prefer Matts voice to Tims, but that doesnt mean that Tim isn't a great singer. He is really one of the best in the world. It's too bad people talk shit about him.
Fuck I wish I knew what PA settings Matt B uses. I can totally hear where he starts overdubbing, but before that its either his epic voice or some well done reverb.
why do people argue voices its all a matter of opinion Iced Earth Iron Maiden Helloween I liked all there Vocalist people can get mad I think there fucking Great bands.
TIm Owens Will never be as successful as Barlow nor will ever be as good look at barlow hes been in iced Earth for a very long time and did 1 pyramaze album look at owens his Band beyond fear 1 album and hasent done a thing with it since then and judas priest he was let go Cuz Rob Cam back so if anyone says Tim is better sorry hes not maybe in those high pitch screams which are annoying sometimes listen to the song dead meat by judas priest that song he show some heavy stuff
I think Barlow is better at singing at low levels than Owens like at the start of this song, but when it comes to the high stuff owens is far superior, like in Ten Thousand Strong, Barlow could never sing that song as well as Ripper
Um have you heard the live performances of ten thousand strong, Barlow destroys Rippers performance. Also to Metalrain6, Jon writes the music for the music NOT for the singer. He writes it so it can be done with other vocalists, if needs be. I liek both singers myself, each brought their own sound... and all but the first are good. Greely was too weak. Barlow, however is my favourite all time singer
If you are talking about the Graspop performance yes I've heard it and I thought it was pretty poor, sorry. The song doesnt suit his voice at all and he really struggles with it (Ripper does when singing it live as well tho but not quite as much)
Both vocalist are amazing and overall I do prefer Barlow because the slower songs are my favorite like Watching Over Me and Meloncholy and he sounds absolutely amazing on them live and in the studio recordings
It was better than Ripper's version. He gave it what it was missing with Ripper, especially for a live performance. It suits his voice perfectly, especially these days now he's matured as a singer. His best song by far is a Question of heaven though
See I don't actually like Dickinsons voice that much. But I just prefer Matt to all other vocalists, though Lance King and Warrel Dane are close second for me
I Agree with you about what you said when it comes to Greely was too weak. HE could not sing all that good. I think it would be epic if they completley redid Stormrider with Matt. I'd like to hear him doing Mystical End, The Path I chose and To Curse The Sky which was originally sung by Gene Adams. I think that Barlow does a WAY better job than Greely and so does Ripper for that matter.
i agree. but nobody can emphasis emotion and agressiveness at the same time as much as barlow can.. that's why i LOVE barlow's voice over ripper in iced earth.. but i can't see barlow singing the ending for framing armageddon as ripper did.
@UnleashMoonlightFire, i think he just wanted to make it different than rippers', as his high pitched voice on horror show, like on dracula and Wolf, demonstrate that he is capable of doing it, and sounds great at the same time. I have listened to their entire collection, and Barlow can handle the highs just as well as the lows.
@UnleashMoonlightFire That's because Ripper and Barlow made songs their own. Ripper could never do Dracula like Barlow, and I don't believe Barlow could do High Water Mark as Ripper can. Both were awesome, but I prefer Barlow over all.
Chapter 3 (High Water Mark) especially near the ending o.o. There you will be definitely impressed !
But Barlow is unbeatable at the hellish themed albums and so on (dark low pitch hellish voice - I just say Dante's Inferno! I couldnt imagine any other vocalist on that song.)
>Barlow could never sing that song as well as Ripper
You obviously never seen them live with Barlow. He did sing it and he sang it extremely well. Given, I hate the song personally, he raped that song. Sure, his face was red and he had to give it his all, but I think it sounded a lot better than Ownes (personally). You should hear Barlow sing Dracula and then listen to Ownes sing it (live). Ownes = I cringed. Barlow = I cried.
i think Barlow is the superior singer and works much better with IE than Ripper, but this song just sounds much better with Ripper, as was intended. Although, I like Barlow's Setian Massacre much more than Ripper's
tbh in my opinion i first heard ripper on the framing armageddon album fucking loved it then i heard matt barlow singing and think he's a class singer but tbh id rather have tim and i think matt has ruined the framing armageddon album as it suits tims voice much more better not putting matt down like since i think he's a good singer and all but somethings really should be left alone and rippers voice was perfect for the FR album i think
Ripper owens has done good for himself ya know it aint easy to step in as frontman in bands such as judas priest and iced earth he is truly an amazing artist. (all respect cast his way)
I strongly prefer Owens to Barlow. Barlow's voice certainly as unqiue as Rippers, but I think Ripper has am amazing chemistry with Iced Earth. Too bad.
Barlow is my favourite singer. And I think he takes the biscuit for this song. Owens is good, hell he wouldnt have been in The Almighty Judas Priest (Take a bow now) if he wasn't, BUT Barlow has tones that no other singer has, his stuff with Pyramaze is awesome too
i like this version more...matt is iced earth...i don't wanna say that ripper sucks,his performance in Ten thousand strong is amazing,but he is not barlow...u know what I'm trying to say...
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I meant: Barlow sucks and the idea of re-recording Tim´s vocal tracks supersucks... this shows that Schaffer has no respect for Tim´s work... What a lame ass version this is... Schaffer can eat dick, I´m not interested in his shit no more.
schaffer did the same thing when ripper replaced barlow. its not that he doesnt have respect for their work, he just re-records to get people use to the new singer. he also did the same thing when Barlow replaced the singer before him.
I think they're both amazing singers, two of the best in the metal industry. I just think Barlow was better suited with IE. I'm glad Owens started up Beyond Fear and his solo album. He'll do good, making his own sound.
Seriousley? What was so funny about the Castlevania concept? I bet MAtt could really deliver a superb vocal preformance and make the Belmont story come to life. Or, if they did a Zelda one the Link story. I bet Jon would never go for that. LOL. What do you think?
Man that will suck! But, hey think of it like this if Crucible was originally going to be a Ripper album, just imagine what the next I.E album will be like! IT will be for MAtt all the way! Hey thanks for the friend invite. Only one thing, though before I add you, I am only adding users 18 and up to keep things safe. I just want to be safe is all. Hey I wonder wouldn't it be cool to meet Jon? That would be killer! Hey what would an I.E Castlevania concept album be like? Would it be any good?
Yeah that makes sense. I think that whenever they make another Single they should maby have four tracks per version. An exlcusive for Ituens and one for the CD. I wonder which game console do you prefer PS3, Wii or Xbox 360? I have a PS3 and love it alot!
I agree! IF they make it for PS3 and ONLY PS3, then they could go all balls out! I wonder do you have a PS3 and if so, do you go online? IF you do, I will add you but, only if your 18 or over. I am trying to keep my friends list on their all adults and no kids. Blame me?
I think they should have put this version on the CD version of the single as well as Itunes. That would have made the package a much sweeter deal in my book. I wonder why they choose to make it an Itunes only exclusive?
and now hes planning on re-recording framing Armageddon for a Boxset with Barlow doing the vocals on both this and the new album. (Which I cannot wait for). He's doing that because of continuity reasons (Plus I Might be the only one but I perfer matts version of this song over Tim's although tim is a great singer. Its just a personal preference I guess.
This my favorite song from the Framing Armageddon album. I love Matt Barlow and his singing and I'm glad he's back with the band. But just something just doesn't sound right, I like the Owen track better then Barlow's I don't know why but it's just missing something. It's still a great tune though.
I think Matt has a darker, more atmospheric voice. On the contrary, Tim´s voice and singing style is alot more electrifying and aggressive. Tracks such as Order of the Rose, and Framing Arm. are written for Tim, while Matt excels on the older material.
Thanks for uploading this. I was upset that Jon didn't allow this version to be on the EP cd that I purchased.
Once again, thanks for this man. Such an amazing song and Matt has the best metal voice. I have Matt and Russell Allen as metal vocal immortals. \m/ \m/
Matt does have a face melting evil scream. Just listen to anything from Burnt Offerings, Dark Saga, Something Wicked, and Horror Show. He definitely has the evil scream.
Halfway through when it goes to the heavy part Tim lets out this crazy scream/laugh thing. On Matt's version theres also a scream but its just not as powerful to me.
He's a great singer in his own right, but their voices are too different.
@guyverhoeven DUDE OF COURSE JUDAS PRIEST HAS BETTER VOCALS!
irpoytress 2 months ago
@irpoytress HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!
Mrjay669 2 months ago
@irpoytress Way to understand, Dumnass
PiperatheGates 1 month ago
@irpoytress trolls gonna troll.
nihilofilia 1 month ago
I started listening to Iced Earth with Barlow, actually, Dark Saga was the first ever Iced Earth song.
Because of this, when I heard the album Framing Armageddon I was initially taken back because it featured Owens. For a while I actually really disliked that album, until of course I listened to it on a 5 hour drive, then it all started to make sense.
Now I actually really enjoy both voices just as equally as much.
Waxer3929 2 months ago
FA was a near perfect album. I prefer Barlow over Owens but FA is such a beast of an album, I wouldn't want it to be altered just like Glorious Burden!
TheBladefeather 4 months ago
I think any real musician or anyone who actually learned anything about music knows that music at this level is not a competition. If anything, you can say you prefer Barlow's singing to Owens and viceversa. But this is not a contest, people, it's art.
Would be good if you guys learned this and stopped with the stupid remarks such as "owens is superior when it comes to the high stuff". That is so absurd. Maybe if this was a music school dealing with a couple of amateurs.
It isn't.
Evraem 5 months ago 3
Personally i like Barlow better, but Owens pulled this shit off better on FA.
lordmetal2 5 months ago
This sound is perfect w/ Barlow or Owens...Even w/ Stu block should be!
fpizzicato 5 months ago
I think Owens' voice fit this song better than Barlow's. Not rippin on Barlow, it's just an opinion. I believe that Owens was their best vocalist, but I can't say that, cause I haven't heard their new one yet.
bioniclefan1 5 months ago
Barlow's voice, Owens' style of singing (notice how Barlow somehow lengthens the vowels, especially in the beginning).
Also, as most ppl are saying, Owens is much better for high pitched songs,
and Barlow for the dark ones (the kind of dark that ghouls live in)
AericWintershard 6 months ago
I like this version better... I just like Barlow's voice much much more than Rippers, although Ripper is very very good, but Matt just kicks ass :D
jsosic3 6 months ago
Great song, I think that in this song and also in the clouding Barlow is better but in travel in Stygian Owens wins.
PiotrWierzbowski55 6 months ago
pfff if anyone dislikes Barlow, I strongly recommend that they listen to Slave of the Dark! especially the live in athens version
Pellefather 8 months ago
I STRONGLY think that Matt singer sounds like shit.. I know it's only opinion.. but wtf is that?
TheCircusAddicted 8 months ago
Barlow is thte best this proof!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
omnadrener 9 months ago
jeez my new favorite song :)
zoltut 9 months ago
I personally like the song more if ripper sings it. Barlow is surely a good vocalist but I simply love Ripper^^
Schattenlichtdorn 9 months ago
Barlow and Ripper both suck, it's Bill Cosby that really got this band going
gearsofwolf 1 year ago
@gearsofwolf
They both suck ??!? Are you fucking nuts ??! Those are two of the best metal vocalist currently.
Please go throw yourself in a fire and burn. You are unworthy to listening to either of them and can't see real talent for what it is.
FakePlasticHead 11 months ago
@FakePlasticHead obviously its a joke because Bill Cosby isnt a singer. And why would i be on her eif i didnt like them?
gearsofwolf 11 months ago
Piper Ripper all the way
PaleHROse 1 year ago
god didnt give 5 people the strength to lead
74gore 1 year ago 2
I personally prefer Owens' vocals for this song. But as for who's a better voice for the band... I know some fan have their preferences but in my opinion, both Barlow and Owens complete Iced Earth. Sure there are some individual songs that sound better sung by one or the other, but all in all, both are perfect singers for Iced Earth.
xRockandMetalx 1 year ago 2
@xRockandMetalx finally someone who gets it.
megapurify 5 months ago
honestly i like more the owen's voice ://
but barlow is great too
AtreyuDilated 1 year ago
Matt's definitely got the better baritone voice in my opinion, but when reaching soprano range, Owens owns it. I prefer baritone voices though, so I really like hearing singers like Matt and Russell Allen.
Schemerhythm 1 year ago
@Schemerhythm
You are totally right ^^
Owens can sing higher but his range is far from Matt his range.
Matt can go from low to high where owens can only from high to very high...
Thats why i prefer Matt like you do.
manslayer8132 1 year ago
i think matt is a bette singer than owen in my opinion, but this is a owen song
74gore 1 year ago
Barlow is a really good singer and all one of my favs but This is rippers song
TheAmeader 1 year ago
okay I know how its done he took the audio from the live version that Matt did in 2008 and he muted the crowd
NASCAR90 1 year ago
Mathew is the one, guys..
TheMathewVoice 1 year ago
Did they re do this
NASCAR90 1 year ago
I like Barlow and Owens evenly, all in all. Though quite honestly, I don't much like this song compared to Owens' version. Then again, I guess I also can't envision Owens doing a very good job on all the songs Barlow did (aside from the Coming Curse, that one he did do excellently, imo). I guess it's just a matter of what I'm used to from the original recordings, versus any re-recordings, with a tiny few exceptions.
Manas10101 1 year ago
I like tim more... what are the other albums with Tim?
Rahavin1 1 year ago
@Rahavin1 there's "framing Armeggedon Part 1", which has this song on it, and there's "Glorious Burden", which is all about history: Attlila, Waterloo, Deceration Day, etc.
jakenhsman 1 year ago
both time and matt are to of the most talented motherfuckers out why label whos better i like both versions
matt1980 1 year ago
@matt1980 tim**
matt1980 1 year ago
From a technical standpoint, it could be argued that Owens is a better singer, but I've always loved Barlow's ability to emote well. He sings with such overwhelming feeling (not to say Owens doesn;t have feeling). His voice resonates with me emotionally, especially in The Dark Saga.
ConsecratedOblivion 1 year ago
i noticed some people build their judgment on how angry is the artist, neglecting or just not noticing the true identity and nature of each artist... they sound so funny and rediculously ignorant, not to mention unprofessional... but then most people today are like that, and this saddens me, exept it doesnt becoz i dont care, im just posting my opinion
michaelba86 1 year ago 2
rippers one is better:) i think? havent heard this song in a while? does ripper sing it as well? if he does its the better one, barlows not angry enough
nickjfire123 1 year ago
I know this stuff is really getting old, but like every other son of a bitch out there on the web I too have an opinion that I am prepared to type into the little blue rectangle. Tim did the song WAYYYY better than Matt.
ValoSGonzalez 1 year ago
@ValoSGonzalez He was the original too but it sounds even better with both Matt and Tim.
TheAmeader 1 year ago
why is it that matt's version gives me goosbumps and the other version doesnt? specialy the second verse "and now we muuust wipe the tears away..."
michaelba86 1 year ago
I got into the band after Barlow left so I really loved Owens but since then Ive come to putting Barlow one notch above, as for this song its Owens song I highly doubt the ripper can pull off lets say A question of heaven as well as Barlow because thats a Barlow style. I love both singers and I love Iced Earth one of my favorite bands \m/
Metallicamaniac1043 1 year ago
Jon Schaffer has a new project called Sons of Liberty. Anyone who is an Iced Earth fan should check it out, it's awesome!!
IcedEarth426 1 year ago
Okay, I love Barlow, but I simply have to give the nod to Owens for this song, he sounded WAY better than Barlow did when singing this song, as he did with Ten Thousand Strong, Barlow is a great singer, but I feel he should stay away from any songs that were done with Owens at the helm.
IcedEarthaholic 1 year ago
I definatly prefer Matts voice to Tims, but that doesnt mean that Tim isn't a great singer. He is really one of the best in the world. It's too bad people talk shit about him.
seylo 1 year ago 3
Matt sounds like Paul stanley. And quite frankly what is metal about sounding like kiss. lmao
metalhedchris 2 years ago
@metalhedchris Did you just compare Iced Earth to kiss? You obviously dont know what the fuck you are talking about so shut the fuck up.
seylo 1 year ago 3
Fuck I wish I knew what PA settings Matt B uses. I can totally hear where he starts overdubbing, but before that its either his epic voice or some well done reverb.
CurseOfEternalDecay 2 years ago
why do people argue voices its all a matter of opinion Iced Earth Iron Maiden Helloween I liked all there Vocalist people can get mad I think there fucking Great bands.
omnadrener 2 years ago
i liked both mat and tim's versions its a matter of taste not arguments.
KhanStodge 2 years ago 6
matt is batter then tim over
artosari666 2 years ago 4
TIm Owens Will never be as successful as Barlow nor will ever be as good look at barlow hes been in iced Earth for a very long time and did 1 pyramaze album look at owens his Band beyond fear 1 album and hasent done a thing with it since then and judas priest he was let go Cuz Rob Cam back so if anyone says Tim is better sorry hes not maybe in those high pitch screams which are annoying sometimes listen to the song dead meat by judas priest that song he show some heavy stuff
Theblackmetalist 2 years ago
i think Barlow is better but i can understand People might find Owens better thats COMPLETELY based on opinion and there are no facts.
its like letting Priest fans discussing with Maiden fans who got the best vocalist.
Guyverhoeven 2 years ago 28
@Guyverhoeven I like the Tim Owens version better because I think his vocals fit the songs better.
bioniclefan1 6 months ago
Actually ever hear travel in stygian with Matt singing it he can keep a constant high note through that whole song.
aladassa 2 years ago 3
i think that Barlow is a very different singer than Owens. So the songs of the the one just cannot be singed by the other
Brorouk 2 years ago
I think Barlow is better at singing at low levels than Owens like at the start of this song, but when it comes to the high stuff owens is far superior, like in Ten Thousand Strong, Barlow could never sing that song as well as Ripper
UnleashMoonlightFire 2 years ago 25
Um have you heard the live performances of ten thousand strong, Barlow destroys Rippers performance. Also to Metalrain6, Jon writes the music for the music NOT for the singer. He writes it so it can be done with other vocalists, if needs be. I liek both singers myself, each brought their own sound... and all but the first are good. Greely was too weak. Barlow, however is my favourite all time singer
Raxisabominae 2 years ago 2
If you are talking about the Graspop performance yes I've heard it and I thought it was pretty poor, sorry. The song doesnt suit his voice at all and he really struggles with it (Ripper does when singing it live as well tho but not quite as much)
Both vocalist are amazing and overall I do prefer Barlow because the slower songs are my favorite like Watching Over Me and Meloncholy and he sounds absolutely amazing on them live and in the studio recordings
UnleashMoonlightFire 2 years ago
It was better than Ripper's version. He gave it what it was missing with Ripper, especially for a live performance. It suits his voice perfectly, especially these days now he's matured as a singer. His best song by far is a Question of heaven though
Raxisabominae 2 years ago
I agree bro,
Matt is an overall better singer that Tim.
His range is amazing!
And ryte now he is my favorite metal vocalist as well,
Well its actually a tie with Bruce Dickinson
But I think Matt has a better voice than Bruce
But bruce has more character and personality in his vocals.
horaaliya 2 years ago
See I don't actually like Dickinsons voice that much. But I just prefer Matt to all other vocalists, though Lance King and Warrel Dane are close second for me
Raxisabominae 2 years ago
I Agree with you about what you said when it comes to Greely was too weak. HE could not sing all that good. I think it would be epic if they completley redid Stormrider with Matt. I'd like to hear him doing Mystical End, The Path I chose and To Curse The Sky which was originally sung by Gene Adams. I think that Barlow does a WAY better job than Greely and so does Ripper for that matter.
mkadragtonslayer 2 years ago 3
Barlow did the path i chose at alive in athens......near enough studio perfect, as iced earth are.
666danielclark666 2 years ago 2
i agree. but nobody can emphasis emotion and agressiveness at the same time as much as barlow can.. that's why i LOVE barlow's voice over ripper in iced earth.. but i can't see barlow singing the ending for framing armageddon as ripper did.
jorninorion 2 years ago
@UnleashMoonlightFire, i think he just wanted to make it different than rippers', as his high pitched voice on horror show, like on dracula and Wolf, demonstrate that he is capable of doing it, and sounds great at the same time. I have listened to their entire collection, and Barlow can handle the highs just as well as the lows.
seanthecrippler 1 year ago
@UnleashMoonlightFire I agree, I heard Barlow doing Ten Thousand Strong live, and I'm sorry, it was a miss for me.
IcedEarthaholic 1 year ago
@UnleashMoonlightFire That's because Ripper and Barlow made songs their own. Ripper could never do Dracula like Barlow, and I don't believe Barlow could do High Water Mark as Ripper can. Both were awesome, but I prefer Barlow over all.
roijas 1 year ago
@UnleashMoonlightFire barlow has overall better range including vibatos at higher pitches
Madnessin1987 1 year ago
@UnleashMoonlightFire
You are right.
But Ten Thousand Strong isn't a high stuff song.
The guitars doesn't play higher then normal
So when matt would have sing this song he would have done it a few tunes lower then Ripper
Now that Ripper started the song so high Matt tried to do the same
But when Matt do the vocals lower you will say:
That's not how it supposed to be
I think that when Ripper didn't sing that song it would be a great song with Matt on vocals
It's just how you like it
manslayer8132 1 year ago
@UnleashMoonlightFire You should listen to Gettysburg 1863!
Chapter 3 (High Water Mark) especially near the ending o.o. There you will be definitely impressed !
But Barlow is unbeatable at the hellish themed albums and so on (dark low pitch hellish voice - I just say Dante's Inferno! I couldnt imagine any other vocalist on that song.)
Fleshshredder 7 months ago
@Fleshshredder They started doing it live with Stu Block :)
brandomaster90 3 months ago
@Fleshshredder I actually prefer the Dante's Inferno sang by Stu :D
KitchouaTembo 5 days ago
@UnleashMoonlightFire
>Barlow could never sing that song as well as Ripper
You obviously never seen them live with Barlow. He did sing it and he sang it extremely well. Given, I hate the song personally, he raped that song. Sure, his face was red and he had to give it his all, but I think it sounded a lot better than Ownes (personally). You should hear Barlow sing Dracula and then listen to Ownes sing it (live). Ownes = I cringed. Barlow = I cried.
kamuimusackie 4 months ago
i think Barlow is the superior singer and works much better with IE than Ripper, but this song just sounds much better with Ripper, as was intended. Although, I like Barlow's Setian Massacre much more than Ripper's
MetalRain6 2 years ago 4
tbh in my opinion i first heard ripper on the framing armageddon album fucking loved it then i heard matt barlow singing and think he's a class singer but tbh id rather have tim and i think matt has ruined the framing armageddon album as it suits tims voice much more better not putting matt down like since i think he's a good singer and all but somethings really should be left alone and rippers voice was perfect for the FR album i think
vikingwarlord1250 2 years ago
Ripper owens has done good for himself ya know it aint easy to step in as frontman in bands such as judas priest and iced earth he is truly an amazing artist. (all respect cast his way)
XKRAZYKRIPPLEX 2 years ago 3
I strongly prefer Owens to Barlow. Barlow's voice certainly as unqiue as Rippers, but I think Ripper has am amazing chemistry with Iced Earth. Too bad.
Anjohl 2 years ago
Barlow's voice is darker. I like that. But, This sonf sounds better when Owens is at the vocals. :P
AWAKENU2 2 years ago 3
Is it possible... this song has emotion in it?!
Barlow can cut it where Tim can't even pass with a nuclear powered ice breaker!
Fanatical86 2 years ago
Haha ye- Wait...what? XD
Solidsidious 2 years ago
lol i don't get it either!...
666JSchaffer666 2 years ago
it got cut off a little at the end. can you upload it fully?
SetAbominaesPower 2 years ago
Barlow is my favourite singer. And I think he takes the biscuit for this song. Owens is good, hell he wouldnt have been in The Almighty Judas Priest (Take a bow now) if he wasn't, BUT Barlow has tones that no other singer has, his stuff with Pyramaze is awesome too
Raxisabominae 2 years ago 4
i like this version more...matt is iced earth...i don't wanna say that ripper sucks,his performance in Ten thousand strong is amazing,but he is not barlow...u know what I'm trying to say...
Igorswimmer 2 years ago
the best vocal matt excelent
que via iced earth con matt barlow el mejor vocalista que puede haber en iced earth.
yhovanicedearth 2 years ago
I preffer barlow on this but Tim def does setian massacre better
Guyverhoeven 3 years ago 2
I think tim's version is better, but I think it's because the song was originally made for him. but I think matt could have done better than this too
123AngelwingedDevil 3 years ago
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I meant: Barlow sucks and the idea of re-recording Tim´s vocal tracks supersucks... this shows that Schaffer has no respect for Tim´s work... What a lame ass version this is... Schaffer can eat dick, I´m not interested in his shit no more.
SpiritofSteele 3 years ago
schaffer did the same thing when ripper replaced barlow. its not that he doesnt have respect for their work, he just re-records to get people use to the new singer. he also did the same thing when Barlow replaced the singer before him.
m3ta1h3ad145218 3 years ago
Matt is simply better than Ripper!
Alfheim01 3 years ago 2
I think they're both amazing singers, two of the best in the metal industry. I just think Barlow was better suited with IE. I'm glad Owens started up Beyond Fear and his solo album. He'll do good, making his own sound.
exnihilo0 2 years ago 3
Stu Block has an amazing range, but not the varying tones that these 2 guys have.
undericesinger 2 years ago
I think owen's version is better. Matt is better in "The Clouding" and in the "Setian Massacre" but Tim owns this song.
StormRid3r13 3 years ago 2
Fine performance!!!! I saw Iced Earth a few months back, and they blew me away as always!! I like Ripper too, but I think Matt sounds better
supermanbri83 3 years ago 6
matt blows tim away on this song
plumbingbg 3 years ago
Probably the best song from Framing Armageddon. Much better with Barlow.
Fjordgnu 3 years ago 3
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OMG, this sucks!
SpiritofSteele 3 years ago
Seriousley? What was so funny about the Castlevania concept? I bet MAtt could really deliver a superb vocal preformance and make the Belmont story come to life. Or, if they did a Zelda one the Link story. I bet Jon would never go for that. LOL. What do you think?
mkadragtonslayer 3 years ago
Man that will suck! But, hey think of it like this if Crucible was originally going to be a Ripper album, just imagine what the next I.E album will be like! IT will be for MAtt all the way! Hey thanks for the friend invite. Only one thing, though before I add you, I am only adding users 18 and up to keep things safe. I just want to be safe is all. Hey I wonder wouldn't it be cool to meet Jon? That would be killer! Hey what would an I.E Castlevania concept album be like? Would it be any good?
mkadragtonslayer 3 years ago
I don't know. LOL. Hey I am psyched to hear the next ICed Earth album whenever they bring it out! Are you looking forward to it as well?
mkadragtonslayer 3 years ago
me emociono quando ouço essa musica... principalmente nessa versão.. com os vocais do Matt...
phoenixdevice 3 years ago
barlow kicks ass on this song !!!!!!!
plumbingbg 3 years ago
Oh my god oh my god oh my god.
Right after a sucky monday on school im gonna see these guy's (again) with saxon!!
God it would rock if they play this song or i walk alone.
Guyverhoeven 3 years ago
i think matt sounds better in this song but i also think ripper blaws matt away on 10 thousand strong
plumbingbg 3 years ago
agreed
Ironsix6six 3 years ago
Yeah that makes sense. I think that whenever they make another Single they should maby have four tracks per version. An exlcusive for Ituens and one for the CD. I wonder which game console do you prefer PS3, Wii or Xbox 360? I have a PS3 and love it alot!
mkadragtonslayer 3 years ago
PS3 all the way!!! i switched from nintendo back in the dayz of the 64. Cuz nintenso tols Squaresoft to fuck off. so they took final fantsy to sony
tripplek666 3 years ago
I agree! IF they make it for PS3 and ONLY PS3, then they could go all balls out! I wonder do you have a PS3 and if so, do you go online? IF you do, I will add you but, only if your 18 or over. I am trying to keep my friends list on their all adults and no kids. Blame me?
mkadragtonslayer 3 years ago
I think they should have put this version on the CD version of the single as well as Itunes. That would have made the package a much sweeter deal in my book. I wonder why they choose to make it an Itunes only exclusive?
mkadragtonslayer 3 years ago
and now hes planning on re-recording framing Armageddon for a Boxset with Barlow doing the vocals on both this and the new album. (Which I cannot wait for). He's doing that because of continuity reasons (Plus I Might be the only one but I perfer matts version of this song over Tim's although tim is a great singer. Its just a personal preference I guess.
JPM2875 3 years ago
This my favorite song from the Framing Armageddon album. I love Matt Barlow and his singing and I'm glad he's back with the band. But just something just doesn't sound right, I like the Owen track better then Barlow's I don't know why but it's just missing something. It's still a great tune though.
Xmetalearth 3 years ago
You've forgotten the last few seconds :'(
Could you send me the whole Song from Matt?
Br41Nw4sh3D 3 years ago
I think Matt has a darker, more atmospheric voice. On the contrary, Tim´s voice and singing style is alot more electrifying and aggressive. Tracks such as Order of the Rose, and Framing Arm. are written for Tim, while Matt excels on the older material.
veni21 3 years ago
as much as I love Barlow's voice (and I *really* do, he's one of the best singers ever), this song was better sung by Tim Ripper Owens
CharlieHarperRulez 3 years ago
Thanks for uploading this. I was upset that Jon didn't allow this version to be on the EP cd that I purchased.
Once again, thanks for this man. Such an amazing song and Matt has the best metal voice. I have Matt and Russell Allen as metal vocal immortals. \m/ \m/
LastSunrise1981 3 years ago 2
damn if i had matts voice, i would sing-talk everything!!
onlycomeoutatnite 3 years ago 2
WOW amazing job matt....i wish yu held the scream like ripper had
closedcoil 3 years ago
I agree
Matt is a great singer
But he just doesn't have that same face-melting evil scream that Tim has.
bebop900 3 years ago 4
Matt does have a face melting evil scream. Just listen to anything from Burnt Offerings, Dark Saga, Something Wicked, and Horror Show. He definitely has the evil scream.
LastSunrise1981 3 years ago
Your right he does have a great scream himself
But its just not the same as Tim's
Like
Take The Clouding
Theres a version of Matt's and Tim's
Halfway through when it goes to the heavy part Tim lets out this crazy scream/laugh thing. On Matt's version theres also a scream but its just not as powerful to me.
He's a great singer in his own right, but their voices are too different.
bebop900 3 years ago