Shrink Rap (2)

[mrbrianmoran]

This woman has serious problems..Its hard to believe a woman of her years can be so narrowminded

[baldassare01]

the woman is the symbol of humiliation... to have a penis inserted into the woman..

[natuankur]

i love how women tend to take it very seriously when it comes to sexual assault....and men just forget it sort of......."i wish i could find that funny but...."...i mean who the fuck cares whether you find it funny or not....as long as your fucking patient and victim is able to get over it let him do it....dont fucking induce rage and shame in him.....fucking shrinks....they do more harm than good....she tried to do the same to billy.....bitch

[levopierrot]

I've never heard the knees described in such an eloquent way....it's so true though. I think it's beyond gender, because as a girl I feel the same way.

[VanillaLips]

God, I love him and his infinite, goodnatured patience with this woman.

"Oh, right, was I steering off course with a charming, thoughtprovoking little anecdote with actual deeper meaning behind it? Terribly sorry, let me return to your theoretical elevator of bullshit."

Just rubbing his forehead only slightly ironically and imagining he's somewhere else. Or, ideally, she's somewhere else.

Temperature?! You have an hour with an interesting, intelligent man and this is what you go for. Bless.

[iamadamsusername]

@VanillaLips So she was being a bit annoying but sure, she's just doing her job. She did state that she didnt want the "official" answer and as charming as he is, Stephen really had trouble not answering officially

[VanillaLips]

@iamadamsusername I think Stephen Fry would give an answer that's polished, but that in no way means it's isn't genuine. This "official" crap is just her way of wanting to get an "exclusive", regardless of if that is what he actually feels or not. However, all of that's pretty much beside the point anyway; whatever her goal was, she did nothing to actually make it easier for him to GET any deeper than this so called official answer. I heard nothing throughtprovoking what so ever. Such a waste.

[KidsWithGuns1992]

He describes things so eloquently and so beautifully - like the thing about the knees, it's so completely true. I love hearing Stephen talk, everything he says is so intriguing and interesting. He seems to be a very wonderful person.

[iamadamsusername]

@KidsWithGuns1992 That bit about the knees made me think of my childhood also haha. Such an amazing accurate description but were you to say "I miss my knees" in any other conversation, people would think you'd been drinking

[OdetteNightsky]

He is a very interesting man. She is horrible. Patronizing and so FECKING annoying. I have worked with many people with abuse and she has got superiority issues. She is not good at this at all!! Get another job woman your crap at this.

[DontTouchMyVicodin]

Does anyone else feel like she's bullying him?

[KidsWithGuns1992]

@DontTouchMyVicodin Definitely - she isn't being empathetic nor is she really listening to him.

[dumbnetworks]

penis up your ass...

[channel303]

I cant understand all the references to ADHD he is however diagnosed with Bipolar (Manic Depression). Hence his last documentary my life as a manic depressive.

[Friedl123]

I'm a clinical psychology student and the absolute first thing they said to us is to NEVER EVER be pedantic. Never assume that you have all the knowledge, because you don't.

If they would show this in one of our classes, it would be an example of how NOT to do it.

[boozeberryjam]

@Friedl123 I went for some sessions, I got depressed ... I was expecting it to be something like this here, it wasn't. This really annoys me!

[incrediblejessen]

i love all these people trying to analyze a trained, clinical psychologist.

where did you get your degrees, guys?

[psychobollox]

@incrediblejessen

I got mine from the University of Birmingham. It's in psychology, and - along with my undergrad study - conforms to the old BPS points system (current when I got my degree) for eligibility for Graduate Membership. Yes. I'm qualified to comment on her.

[Nicola1975bain]

Anderson knows very well what Fry is talkng about and where he is going BUT she pulls him back for the audience - who don't. She's pacing the interview . Fry has ADHD and tells you himself at the beginning of the interview that his thoughts race way head of everyone else. He's also somewhat lacking in the mental departemnt - he's in huge denial about being sexually abused. Irregardless of any physical enjoyment, being sodomized by an older boy IS abuse and not "taking a liberty". '

[psychobollox]

@Nicola1975bain

STEPHENson. Not Anderson.

[Thatkaiperson]

this woman aggravates me. her voice is so airy and her expression is always one of 'what ARE you talking about you fool, i'm so very important and enlightened and you have no idea about your own emotions'

i love stephen fry, and the fact that he is getting somewhat annoyed with her. haha.

[ozzydoop1]

and how did that make u feel 666fannyfart ?

[Mooktopia]

i really despise clinical psychologists. their lives are empty and they pick apart their clients thereby giving meaning to their own lives. ego maniacs. i love fry and his insights are always brill but i cant stand pamela. i cant watch a second more of this. fry just outclasses her in every respect.

[eleanormarydoyle]

i completly disagree, i meant to click thumbs DOWN. clinical psychologists allow us an insight into the human condition. he would have been fully briefed before the interview and as he features on the programm he therefore consented. i to really like Fry but there is no reason to be so harsh and disrespectful towards someones occupation!

[incrediblejessen]

'psychological projection'

look it up :)

[bexmusiclove]

Why do people continue to make such horrible/insensitive comments...? I am dissapointed with some peoples attitdudes towards other people...

[666fannyfart]

i have bad memories of my knees as i was on them most of the time sucking my uncle huberts cock in the potting shed....

[crazypianolady]

Oh my gosh...when she went 'Stephen' at 4:28, she sounded like she was telling him off!! Why is she trying to make him feel something he doesn't or doesn't want to feel about the abuse. People deal with it different ways. She does not sound carying, genuine or empathetic at all!

[psychobollox]

@crazypianolady

sadly, she does seem to be telling him how he should feel. not good. she's not looking at things from his frame of reference.

[snifnscratch]

She forces him to defend and explain himself. She abuses her position as a therapist in order to pursue and impose her own personal agenda on him, all to the obvious cost of stephen

[snifnscratch]

when theyre talking about him being sexually abused, she`s angry at his failure to see the incident the way she saw it, and tries to browbeat him into viewing the same way.

When he was abused, he didnt value himself enough to feel distressed, hurt and angry

[MrCanabliss]

lmao @ these comments, nobody likes this woman!

also, worship the fry.

[LittleBoiFen]

It's funny, because I liked the books she wrote about Billy Connolly (the first one more than the second), but here I find her grating. I think that technically she's a great psychologist, but her manner is....Lacking and abrasive.

[TheGaslightHorror]

Irritating, impolite and insincere. It's almost as if she's playing the role of what an incisive shrink should be, and not convincing anyone. If she hadn't been a minorly successful comedienne / married Connolly prior to becoming a psychologist (a title incidentally which anyone can give themselves) we would certainly not be listening to her "professional" opinion here.

[Paulininja1]

"I wish I could find it funny, but I don't" ..."I'm afraid, you you you..." ;o)- you should have said it, Stephen. Gosh Stephen, you are so patient with her. I would have stood up and run away. She's just horrible.

[HoochieCoocher]

He's drawing literature and humour around himself to diminish the importance of the fact that he was sexual abused. She's being sharp, not horrible. Therapists are there to probe away, not just to listen to whatever their subject has to say.

[stitcha123]

dont mess with fry, pam, ur punching above ur weight.

[mico2020]

i love the talk about knees, it's almost poetic how stephen describes it

[sidhbhra]

I think she's a robot programmed to repeat the same dross..looking over your knees my arse. REVOKE HER LICENSE!

[anonbg]

Yes a desire to please. And yes, lets admit it folks, we like men like Stephen Fry because of it.

On the subject for me at least a person usually knows if they have been abused and he is quite capable of admitting it were it true.

[MissStyk]

Because that exact fact or simply because of the fact that he cares?

[FranklinPurvis]

I have trouble watching the lady interviewing him without remembering her as the squeeky voiced blonde in Superman 3. Remember her? She is the one who seduces Superman when he goes bad. Lol!

[alexxyz456]

Pamela can fuck off. Rubbish. Why is she on television? She's awful.

[famlaya]

straight and not 2 pleased

[loserfreak92]

Oh Dear. It's so annoying when she continues to repeat "What are you feeling?"

[ImeldaLumos]

Sometimes I wonder how much of his first book that was autobiographical. I know a lot of authors tend to make their first novel resemble their Lives. We all know no one is a saint, although Famous People might appear so. I think, one of the most appealing qualities with Stephen, is that he's so honest when talking about his vices. He can see the issues from many perspectives. That's an attractive and intelligent quality in a Human.

By the way, the shrink was an utter patronizing witch

[TuRdSandwitch18]

it sounds like abuse to her but in the situation is was probably not as bad as she imagines

[parrot85]

its really uncomfortable watching - she doesn't seem to understand that people don't always have textbook reactions to traumas and life events. its like that really annoying situation you get when something happens and someone keeps going "are you ok? - are you sure?" you just want to slap them and shout "its just not that big a deal! - get over it, i have!"

[allonoddy]

Well she is TELLING him how to feel in a very heavy handed fashion.

It must be difficult for psychologists in that position though. I guess they do have to make judgements about what is 'normal', in a sense,

It's like people with Stockholm Syndrome talking about how they identify with their abductor. I mean, they're in therapy because that's not 'right' in a sense, and...this isn't 'right' either, I mean, he WAS raped, And 3 yrs is a HUGE diff at that age.

So it's a difficult situation.

[XxEnglishlassxX]

WTF is wrong with her?! she's got a face like a slapped arse!

[wprimrose]

It's got to be a bitch to analyze someone who is MUCH smarter than you.

[Mairi89]

She did look horrified, God I love Stephen Fry, he's just brilliant.

[jonberg]

The woman is an idiot. Stephen is, as always, a gentleman the whole time. If I was him I'd have told her to shove off.

[DMEB]

she looks horrified!!!

[rlm9999]

do a search for 'janet street porter spoof' with pamela interviewing her husband Billy back in 81. Maybe a better interview. I don't know.

[jrocinsane]

I hate shrinks. What a load.

[Kakareen]

She seems a touch too horrified than what is probably truly warranted for the situation. That being said, his attitude about it is a bit disturbing. To paraphrase: 'It's all right if I'm used, if it gives another pleasure.'

[doctawho42]

That desire to please people is a bitch.

[Kakareen]

Oh, nevermind her. It is therapeutic to speak about your thoughts, even if the listener is not all that helpful. And we have the pleasure of listening.

[hoolio87]

Lolz this lady is funny. You can tell she just wanted to scream "YOU WERE RAPED"

[jewsushchristy001]

my god that woman is a twat, i didn't know they still had degrees in cereal boxes!

[markt2429]

Dear Goodness. She says she doesn't subscribe to the idea that one show feel a particular way, yet tries to tell him that he should feel it was an abusive episode?! Thon phD has gone to her head, she's trying to hard to appear better than Stephen when, let's face it, Stephen is the master of all things intellectual.

[boyleb1]

if you look into her backround, her pHd is dodgy to say the least

[joanneohall]

God she's irritating.

I hate when she cuts across him with "Stephen" and tells him how he should feel.

[lickstickly]

actually after watching the whole thing Pamela does come off as someone who read 'Psychiatry for dummies' she just does not come off as someone i felt i could confide in with her constant interuptions and narrow minded views on childhood

[lickstickly]

dont like to slag people off as im sure Pamela is a lovely person in real life but im struggling to fathom if she is genuinely trying to be a good shrink or has been forced to make the programme more of a tv interview rather than would a psychotherapist would actually ask you

[VanWhistler]

Can you imagine her & Billy together?

[whitehavenlass]

pamela connolly talks to much

just shut up and let stephen tell the story

[multitudinal]

this is a woman billy connelly loves. that makes her untouchable in my mind.

[bobtav1]

true lol

[burlearth]

she's a complete actor and tries too much to exploit her guests and "their" personal stories.

[fryfan20]

I love him but hate her !

women shut you F*cking mouth

[stevenuuu1212]

Her face at 5:26 brilliant!

[kratzenbourg]

She's wrong. You can't take that act between two schoolboys out of it's context and call it 'abuse'. She's unbelievably self-righteous,

and won't admit it's the act itself that she

finds offensive. It's unhealthy, granted but it's not 'immoral'.

[blatspanner]

she keep's interrupting,and she's got this bogus,wide-eyed,'i am looking into your soul' stare. what a bullshitting duffle bag full of twats.

[blatspanner]

i saw a shrink once,and he was nothing like this. he just acted like a normal guy,not some third rate hypnotist.

[blatspanner]

....and,he's a bigger,smarter person than she can even fathom. his attitude towards his 'abuse' at the hands of a sixth former is,frankly,hilarious.sorry,tha­t's enough incoherent rambling from me.

[theorah]

you think shes annoying? This is what all psychologists are like! They may be irritating and annoying, but it is possibly the best way to make someone see their problems in a different and maybe eventually better way...unfortunately psychologists arent there to comfort or agree with you, otherwise they would just be justifying your opinions that have made you feel so unhappy.

Putting that aside though, I think she is a little patronising, which is not necessary at all!

[kratzenbourg]

People with doctorates are usually patronising

to less educated people.

[Diakarai]

...doctorate from an unaccredited university in California, she cannot practice outside the state...

[gjhsu]

god, she's annoying....

[kazmurphyuk2]

see this is why i won't go to a shrink bloody annoying ppl who think they know u- whatever

[pinskip1]

I wish she would stop fucking interrupting.

I watched this when it was on the telly and I'd forgotten how annoying she was.

[Kegofbeer]

she is the biggest douche bag i have ever seen

if i was stephen i would have told her to fuck off and walked off the show

[earfetish]

Stephen Fry is God

[darthrubikscubevader]

can ev'one shut up about pamela?!? Who cares if she's annoying or whatever, you're trying to say she's a bad 'shrink'... ok! so get over it and make comments about steven fry or something.

[FastMonkeyBluePants]

A good psychologist asks difficult questions but LISTENS to the answers. Not a lot of that here...

[doctawho42]

how more cliche do you want?

"How are you felling"-said in a whispery etherial, pompus as hell voice. I think, although Stephen has had a pretty ughhhh life, this must have been one of the stand out moments that he really felt like killing himself. How can he be so polite. I guess he has to please people.

[ssylweczka]

I like Pamela, I think she's a good psychologist. It seems like she's interrupting a lot and pushing him a bit in some parts but it's not an interview but therapy. What was she supposed to say? "oh Stephen you are great, you'r laughing about being 'sodomised'? hehe that's funny, yeah.." come on, she's a psychologist for God's sake!

I think Stephen did amazingly well, and so did she.

[xxsavemysoulxx]

I hate the way she keeps pushing Stephen to change what he's saying about "being sodomised" and then tries to say she's fine about it. I'm so glad not all psychologists are like this!!

[xsvsx]

Oh dear. She still can't keep the comedian in sometimes, can she?  But she's a very good psychologist.

[sonofmephistopheles]

She isn't by any means horrible in my eyes. She is smart and decent with it - plus her nature and line of enquiry are perfect.

[candyxoxprincess]

I don't like her!!!

[operationturkey]

Me neither. She seem like a complete bitch.

[TSRule]

Aww... he misses his knees.

[ReallyWatson]

At the risk of being shouted at.. I actually think she's quite a good psychologist. She asks insightful questions, and doesn't let Stephen avoid answering by quoting a reel of information, which lets face it, he does do, a lot! I do find it a bit annoying when she keeps butting in and cutting him off, but she's only trying to focus attention on particular issues.

[xsvsx]

I agree. She's being a psychologist. She knows how celebrities work - every celebrity who has ever been interviewed has been asked something they're not comfortable discussing, and most of them probably lie about it. But it's not an interview, it's a therapy session, and she isn't doing anything wrong.

[wildfemale]

Do you think that public therapy session are ethical?

[xsvsx]

That's a weird one... Yes. If the person agrees to it, yes, why not?  It's not like it's a hidden camera - they know what they're signing up for...

[wildfemale]

I have mixed feelings myself.

It's true, that this material has given me a great insight into what psycotherapists do but I wonder whether it's good for the person even if they agree to that. Because maybe they don't expect such "invasion" into their private lives on public.

I'm not popular in any sense but I think that I would feel pretty endangered if invited to such show.

[wildfemale]

I have mixed feelings myself.

It's true, that this material has given me a great insight into what psycotherapists do but I wonder whether it's good for the person even if they agree to that. Because maybe they don't expect such "invasion" into their private lives on public.

I'm not popular in any sense but I think that I would feel pretty endangered if invited to such talk

[LaurieFan109]

I think Stephen is just a wonderful person not have the urge to slap her across the face! Gosh, I wish I could just go in there and say, "Stop being judgemental you *beep*"

[saintetienne21]

she's horrible!