This video is always exciting, and I prefer to read quality content, so I am happy to find so many good point here in a video, the uploading is simply brilliant, thanks for the video.
I'm sorry dude but I got to say this: DON'T do logos for anyone. You use the wrong tools and make to complex patterns. The leefs will look like crap on a business card or other small spaces. You talk about using the programs to give you more opportunites, well, you should use a vector based program like Adobe Illustrator, that gives you all the opportunities in the world.
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@vongoth01 "big" logo design companies don't do coupons. Either you get is what you paid for or you get some cheap crap done for $50 and your competitor will have the same logo from the same company. I had a good laugh when I saw 2 local companies using the same "logo".
THIS GUYS ATTITUDE IS TOTALLY CORRECT DO NOT START THINKING THAT THERE IS ONE IDEAL SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR EVERYTHING OTHERWISE YOU WILL BECOME INFLEXIBLE AND GET LEFT BEHIND BY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
in other words there's more than one way to skin a cat.
I think this is retarded.... actually I'm sure....Wtf? Please someone explain to me WTF?! This is how not to work... Please, I want to know, after the sketch was scanned, why it wasn't traced in Illustrator or something else with vector? Why? WTF? It's wrong to use Blender or what was that... it's inappropriate...
Please don't call yourself a logo designer or Graphic Designer if you didn't go into it professionally or have a degree in it. I hate how everyone thinks they are a graphic designer because they have Microsoft Word, clipart and some templates.
Please DO NOT use the programs he used here. Invest in the Adobe Creative Suite.
The only way to get this video off YouTube is to flag it ... the dork that made this video is probably laughing at all the hits he is getting with this video ... we should kick his ass.
Get this rubbish off the internet. I sorry but anyone who says they are a graphic's designer needs to go get an education. It is GRAPHIC Designer not graphic's designer... what an absolute retard!
@webcoredesign sure they used to sketch concepts...like 5 years ago. If you have a tablet there is no need for preliminary sketches. You can just begin drawing on illustrator and edit it as you go along
@chiccosanchez No. Logo designers use pencil and paper to sketch today and I've given one of the reasons why. Graphics tablets have been out for decades. Nothing substantial has changed in the logo design process over the years apart from design trend itself. Sketches are shown to clients as well as computer mockups and the sketch represents an important part of the brainstorming process and sometimes it's done without a computer in sight. A creative team might even work with a whiteboard..
crap process and crap logo. seriously, don't be a logo designer if you aren't using vector software. Your software is very restrictive and not designed for logos.
Check my graphics video out on my channel :D, and please tell me what you think :), i'm only 16. starting a graphics design course in september at college :D but yeah, just comment or rate :/ give me advice :D be much appreciated :):) cheers people, ;D anyone x
A for effort on making a vid, it was pretty well produced (the video). But you opened yourself up to flaming of the entire universe with some of those claims and admitting that you use a 3D app to output to raster, then edit it in Gimp... wow. can't defend you there bro.
As a graphics designer student my warning signals appeared when I hear the name Gimp and anything pixel based in the same sentence as logo. Vector, vector, vector. This is mentioned again and again in the comments, but cannot be said enough.
I liked the sketching part of the video a bit though, as that in correlation to talking back and forth with the client and analysing the targetgroup and values of the firm is the real strenght of a logo.
I have an account called GILBERTandFRANCO with 600+ subs. I was really hopeing you could make me an intro to use in my videos. the one i use is not so great. I think you will do a better job.
If you do want to please do this:
-under 10 sec
-have it say "GILBERTandFRANCO" (custom logo would be amazing)
-upload it as a video response to my video"Story 9: Solo"
calm down guys, he was just explaining the steps of graphics design, using multiple programs etc. He decided to use open source programs because not many people can pay for expensive programs. Now, I have Photoshop and blender. Photoshop is the best image editing program by far. And many people who do 3d crap know about Blender 3d BECAUSE IT IS OPEN-SOURCE. We are familiar with OPEN SOURCE PROGRAMS. Obviosly it doesn't come out the greatest, but we are familiar with it...... give him a break....
if you cant see whats wrong with this logo then you are in the wrong business. please cut your losses and enter a different profession, preferably not a creative one. really really terrible
Um.... logos should always be vector not raster. An a pro would use Illustrator... not to mention it all morphs in our minds and later onto many sketches and then when almost done into digital... not digital and a million versions of digital later a final... geez.
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I actually agree. I wouldn't say they should ALWAYS be vector though because it all depends on what the company wants to do with the logo. If they're gonna blow it up to a bigger size to put on a billboard, THEN vector is important. if it has little use like going onto a business card or letterhead then it shouldn't matter if its raster or not.
Yes, they SHOULD always be vector... this is how we professionals work. The only time you should be hitting Photoshop is to work on photographs or other images/illustrations. Logos, work that SHOULD be given to the client, needs to be in vector format because this IS the industry standard.
This isn't a hobby job, this is pro work with industry standards.
exactly, well said. A graphic designer that gives a client or employer a logo in raster format... isn't a graphic designer. It's like a contractor using balsa wood to build a house.
Vector will allow you unlimited capabilities for enlargement/decrease as far as sizing goes. If you have a logo that is composed of an images/photo it can be vectorized. One of the best places on the internet to have a current logo updated or vectorized is mylogos4less - they charge a very reasonable price and are unbelievably fast!
@rebelliouschic Couldn't agree more. No matter what people say Vector is the only way to do a logo UNLESS they know that logo is specifically being used for the web which would be a really pointless logo. We aren't saying limit your self to one software we are saying the industry standard for logo design should be completely vectorized for limitless scaling of the image. A logo is made to go on many different form factors and must be versatile all around for printers to work with at all sizes.
He said "I used to use Photoshop all the way and now I use GIMP"? Ok, Granted, Gimp isn't a bad application for something that is open source, BUT no designer in the world would go from Photoshop to Gimp freely. Come on now.
LOL these programs are not the ones you should be using to create logos. Look for Adobe Illustrator for vector based drawing and for Adobe Photoshop for raster based drawing. That sketch redraw would have taken a max of 7 minutes in Adobe Illustrator.
"hey it really easy after i fuck around for a while and because i don't know what I am doing, it looks cool right? I mean you know what I'm talking about right? but anyways it makes this cool shape that looks nothing like the original concept because .. well its just an interesting process and i enjoy bringing this clusterfuck into the real world."
Don't listen to them. It's a teleporter. All good computer shops sell them. Just make sure you get the one with the "return teleport" feature, otherwise you won't get your drawing back.
I've never heard of "Blender" but if the end result isn't vector then it's not appropriate for a logo. The reason one designs a logo in Illustrator is so it can be enlarged or reduced without losing sharpness. No pixelation. In the end you can never know how a logo will need to be reproduced, business card to billboard. It needs to work for all mediums across the board. That's why Illustrator is used for logos. Forget Photoshop. Misguided.
so chill it out dude rater images are alright if you design them the size you print and actually digital lithograpic printing doesnt use either it has its own maths go to my channel theres a whole video on stuff like that
i agree with orcusdei is impossible to make a really good logo in one day.....i think most of the "designers wannabes" think a logo it's just a an icon and some text.....but there's a lot more to it
This is HACK. Scanning your sketches is great, as is the whole sketching process... but jeez, use illustrator. When I saw the .jpg format I died a little inside. Vector, man...vector.
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jesus your one of these fools who think you need a degree for graphic design, im not fighting you, this guy isnt great, but umm, 3D is vector, you cant render a damn vector file out of it, ontop of that, he can just zoom out, and btw illustrator is just a fucken waste, use photoshop, i use freaking powerpoint and my sketch work is better than 99% of graphic designers
ok, you guys: illustrator is good for polygons, vectors, and text, but of course it has limits. Photoshop is great for blending and illustrating (especially with more texture), but it too has limits, like lack of sharpness for text. THIS program he's showing us has its limits too. Buuut...I've never seen this before and am glad he took the time to show it.
i dont think i was writing to you, i cant remember now, youtube didn't post it as a reply. i think it was to SerbianRenegade anyway. sorry for confusion.
Hey Chris, AWESOME video. I'm glad someone has the skill to show the PROCESS of designing a logo from scratch AND can actually talk through the process. My clients love my work, but think I just pull my ideas out of the air. "Um, that one logo took me a week and 30 sample logo to get it correct." Thanks man! Keep up the good work!
Your exactly right, logos take time, effort, input, creativity, etc... That's why it hacks me that every 18 year old with a copy of photoshop starts his own logo design business and floods the market with sub-par work.
Check out my logo reel off my channel. I'm adding more weekly.
Logos take WEEKS sometimes MONTHS to produce. They need to last years (maybe centuries if the business is really successful)
Taking the time to understand the audience is imperative, and finding a way to stand out to them is crucial. This entails writing a "creative brief".
Most logos start with many more than one draft, when I start a branding project, we start with at least 10 - maybe even upto 30 designs if I feel extra creative.
as for this movie itself it's not very good and the logo is not very good either. furthermore the whole thing could have been simplified by just using a vector to raster program which would have saved a hell of a lot of work.
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It's ashamed this is the highest rated vid for logo design on youtube, logo design should really be left to the pros, like me! Starting with sketches is great, but it goes much further than this, I'll be posting vids on my page on the logo process soon, right now I have one there of some of my favorite logos I've designed, check it out!
You can't use freeware programs to do a professional work. There's a reason for their high cost. It's like going on the highway with a bycicle or with a ferrari...
that's a big load of shit. it does not matter what program is used as long as the end result is of good quality and the program saves to an industry standard format. i could easily make a payware program for a million dollars, or use pirated photoshop, or use the gimp that comes free with linux, or a million other programs. it's the designer not the software. jeezus.
I started out as a Linux user and at the time, Blender was the only thing available for doing 3D artwork. I must say, I didn't enjoy it at all. Props to you for even dealing with that.
hmm iv never heard of using a 3d tool to produce 2d graphics and in this case the outcome was awful! unless hes going to animate the logo then he should know better!
I just hope someone who is wanting to learn logo design doesnt take advice from this video.
Also for all who doesn't know why you need to make it in vector is that when you resize the logo to any size it will not loose any detail and get pixelated. All the edges will stay smooth and you will get high detail logo even on giant posters that fits on a side of a building. It will look sharp and not blurry and pixelated.
"Logo need to be made in a vector based program and not a 3d or bitmap program."
Right on. My earlier comments pretty much say the same thing as this. I don't know why people mark it as bad comment and make my rating negative, but I don't care that much.
Others know that logo design only needs vector drawing program. The rest of it is up to you. 3D might be useful AFTER you have the design perfected in 2D.
I think the guy's taken a novel approach in using a 3D program. Every 3D program generates just 2D graphics, after all.
He's not saying it's the BEST logo or even the BEST tutorial (I didn't hear him refer to it as a tutorial anyway). It's just HIS design. In some ways I prefer his more natural design to some of that over-corporate over-designed bollocks every one else plasters over their me-too franchises.
cbs8: "Ah logo design. I don't really have stuff to say about the logo design, but I have a short story to tell about it..."
cbs8 clearly isn't much of a teacher, but he is a bit of a con-artist ... pun intended.
And speludner, you know little about logo design. You use a 2D vector program, and thats IT. You don't use any 3D program because it distracts from the design process.
And spare me your lawyer drivel. He didn't say this and he didn't say that. He doesn't say much of anything.
So "it's my way or the highway"? Where is this rule written that says "only 2D tools. EVER"? I question your adherence to strict methodologies. Some of the best designers have broken the "rules". Further, he's not even using the 3D capabilities of Blender - he is using it as a 2D design tool.
I don't understand. Why is it you feel so 'conned' by this video? You seem to have a passion for logo design - did you want someone to teach you and he didn't do that?
speludner, listen to me. I am not being fascist. Review 95+ comments and you'll see that others say the same thing. 3D tool is overkill. Logos by nature are 2D objects, even if they have a 3D look to them. They are a kind of symbol, NOT a drawing of a 3D object.
I feel decieved because this video is titled "logo design" and its an incorrect and anecdotal video by a kid who only vaguely understands it.
nightowl8936, I'm not saying you don't know design. I watched your Bell Logo video - v. professional. I'm just wondering why you're ranting against this kid instead of coming up with more of your own stuff. You obviously have the talent.
Re 2D/3D: design, technology & ideas change. A few years ago many questioned using a computer to do design instead of pencils, paper etc. Now everyone does. I'm not saying 3D is a trend, but I would view it with an open mind to see if it offers possibilities.
"many questioned using a computer to design instead of pencils..."
Computers can enhance many things that were traditionally done on paper, yes, but there needs to be computer analogs to the methods of the previous medium, AND functionality that the previous medium did not offer.
2D graphics on a 2D computer screen with the ability to easily make corrections and adjustments is an obvious improvement over pencil and paper.
FYI, I have designed wings with 3D CAD software so I know it too.
Having said all that, I understand when you say you feel deceived. Certainly this kid only vaguely understands the rich art of logo design. Perhaps if he'd titled it "Playing with 3D to produce a logo" or some such you'd feel differently?
Yes, technology and ideas change. But what he's trying to say is that you shouldn't use 3d programs to make 2d graphics, and vice versa. 3d may be a new medium, but making a 2d logo in 3d is, in many ways, like filming a closeup of a book's pages being turned. It's easier to just read the book, and leave film to be its own medium.
My point is that each medium has its own place, and this video shows someone overcomplicating things a bit by mixing up the two mediums.
"Perhaps if he'd titled it 'Playing with 3D to produce a logo' or some such you'd feel differently?"
Yes, I would consider it much more honest, though this is not nearly as bad as people who much more blatantly disrespect viewers by lying to them about their video's and tricking people into watching it. People like that should be caned Singapore style.
Anyway, this video is NOT worth nearly 50,000 views.
Listen dude, I am sure you are a skilled graphics person, but this is less tutorial on logo design than it is about open source software.
You start off good, by talking about brainstorming graphic logo concepts, and working with the person, but you stop talking about logo design and then veer off into promoting Blender.
I am of the opinion that if your tool set is too complex, you get distracted by the bells and whistles instead of focusing on logo design itself. Blender is an example of this.
I bought a $3000 PC a year ago, got a job at scarab design which use macs, i learnt on a mac at design school. And now my pc pretty mch is a mac and i'd trade it for a G5 any day
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This video is always exciting, and I prefer to read quality content, so I am happy to find so many good point here in a video, the uploading is simply brilliant, thanks for the video.
MegaImran109 4 weeks ago
Don't do tutorials when you dont know what you are doing.
superstoffe 1 month ago
this video showed a10 trends that will define logo design In 2008.
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this video is ultimately designed.
hannah68175 1 month ago
it is is a very interesting article.
hannah68175 1 month ago
Good Try
Stephensvision 2 months ago
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Hi, creative work i love it, try to visit this website wwwlogosstockcom "add dot after w and after k) you can sell your logos there.
Good luck
ZytoonNabeel 2 months ago
I'm motivated now to use blender for my own company logo... already have some shape in mind. You're great!! Thanx Linux for this software.
dasstraat 5 months ago
Hey Man, Wondering if you could make me a rough copy of a logo for my team, Voltage Gaming? if so please message me
Cheers,
CoxyPawnStars 5 months ago
ok so your logo is a jpeg? how is that beneficial for printing different sizes?
MultigrainPie 6 months ago 2
I'm sorry dude but I got to say this: DON'T do logos for anyone. You use the wrong tools and make to complex patterns. The leefs will look like crap on a business card or other small spaces. You talk about using the programs to give you more opportunites, well, you should use a vector based program like Adobe Illustrator, that gives you all the opportunities in the world.
billygholm 6 months ago
Very nice!
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vongoth01 11 months ago
@vongoth01 "big" logo design companies don't do coupons. Either you get is what you paid for or you get some cheap crap done for $50 and your competitor will have the same logo from the same company. I had a good laugh when I saw 2 local companies using the same "logo".
kittymilamia 10 months ago
lol he called it graphics design
xandshescreamedi 11 months ago
Who would use Blender and Gimp for this? Really?....
Wow. Just wow....
stuckers1 11 months ago
Nicely presented..
webcoredesign 1 year ago
THIS GUYS ATTITUDE IS TOTALLY CORRECT DO NOT START THINKING THAT THERE IS ONE IDEAL SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR EVERYTHING OTHERWISE YOU WILL BECOME INFLEXIBLE AND GET LEFT BEHIND BY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
in other words there's more than one way to skin a cat.
theoverpopulated 1 year ago
I think this is retarded.... actually I'm sure....Wtf? Please someone explain to me WTF?! This is how not to work... Please, I want to know, after the sketch was scanned, why it wasn't traced in Illustrator or something else with vector? Why? WTF? It's wrong to use Blender or what was that... it's inappropriate...
vanceamarius 1 year ago
garbage.
FussionsEpic 1 year ago
haters you all need to lighten up you sound retarded
Carmelo1323 1 year ago
Please don't call yourself a logo designer or Graphic Designer if you didn't go into it professionally or have a degree in it. I hate how everyone thinks they are a graphic designer because they have Microsoft Word, clipart and some templates.
Please DO NOT use the programs he used here. Invest in the Adobe Creative Suite.
Drummertist 1 year ago 4
great video. well done. I'm sure it looked great when you were done.
wsDomains4Donations 1 year ago
great video. well done.
wsDomains4Donations 1 year ago
The only way to get this video off YouTube is to flag it ... the dork that made this video is probably laughing at all the hits he is getting with this video ... we should kick his ass.
nightowl8936 1 year ago
ugly ass logo, sorry my friend...
elpinta 1 year ago
sketching is gooood,if you dont know why - you dont need to know
the final lines are ugly,the software is not suitable and time consuming,
very bad logo - and the font you used shows that you have no idea what design is
stickiethesickone 1 year ago
whaaaaah? why give up photoshop and illustrator for that software?!
rockingrobot 1 year ago
Get this rubbish off the internet. I sorry but anyone who says they are a graphic's designer needs to go get an education. It is GRAPHIC Designer not graphic's designer... what an absolute retard!
designbymann 1 year ago 2
don't ever bother with sketching a logo before hand..this is just plain stupid
chiccosanchez 1 year ago
@chiccosanchez The majority of professional logo designers sketch out concepts beforehand. "Brain to hand offers the path of least resistance".
webcoredesign 1 year ago
@webcoredesign sure they used to sketch concepts...like 5 years ago. If you have a tablet there is no need for preliminary sketches. You can just begin drawing on illustrator and edit it as you go along
chiccosanchez 1 year ago
@chiccosanchez No. Logo designers use pencil and paper to sketch today and I've given one of the reasons why. Graphics tablets have been out for decades. Nothing substantial has changed in the logo design process over the years apart from design trend itself. Sketches are shown to clients as well as computer mockups and the sketch represents an important part of the brainstorming process and sometimes it's done without a computer in sight. A creative team might even work with a whiteboard..
webcoredesign 1 year ago
to creating the logo is simply super ... Its a good job...
websitedesignmumbai 1 year ago
"Ahhh logo design"
"I don't really have stuff to say about logo design, but I have a short story to tell about it..."
cbs8 ... for the last time ... change the title of your video, and grow some real chin pubes while you're at it.
nightowl8936 1 year ago 2
cbs8 you moron ... change the title of your video ... this is NOT logo design.
nightowl8936 1 year ago 5
Hahah that's my scanner. I got it for free from a girl scouts sale!!! Lol. One of my first logo's was made in Ps. I didn't know about Ai...
...it blew my video card :'(. Because I made it 1.5 meters long... Hahaha. So yeah, use Vector people!
FlegDesigns 1 year ago
first step is research (thats what i like to do)
trentondc 1 year ago
29 main st chester ny
turquoise770 1 year ago
PLZ can somone make me a logo PLZ i will sub and rate
TheAlexdrift 1 year ago
It's nicely presented...
webcoredesign 1 year ago
Free software :)
Dragaoart 1 year ago
crap process and crap logo. seriously, don't be a logo designer if you aren't using vector software. Your software is very restrictive and not designed for logos.
peakhour 1 year ago 6
logo design with 3d software...?! AHAHAHA
Icommentstupidity 2 years ago
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GraphicsBritz 2 years ago
A for effort on making a vid, it was pretty well produced (the video). But you opened yourself up to flaming of the entire universe with some of those claims and admitting that you use a 3D app to output to raster, then edit it in Gimp... wow. can't defend you there bro.
AIGAOC 2 years ago
lol
this guy cant draw
cs164ever 2 years ago
Please do not listen to this....he has no idea what he's talking about.
woriez 2 years ago 3
Why you not use Illustrator, and instead work in 3d program?
izvarzone 2 years ago
its called Logo Design thats why it comes up first when typing logo design
5/5 for video
nice drawing :D
UnwashedGoblin 2 years ago
What programs are you using?
godstenrules 2 years ago
As a graphics designer student my warning signals appeared when I hear the name Gimp and anything pixel based in the same sentence as logo. Vector, vector, vector. This is mentioned again and again in the comments, but cannot be said enough.
I liked the sketching part of the video a bit though, as that in correlation to talking back and forth with the client and analysing the targetgroup and values of the firm is the real strenght of a logo.
CamenaLuscinia 2 years ago 3
eww
eddylarri 2 years ago
This video is STILL the top youtube hit when someone types in "logo design"
Why?
If cbs8 had a shred of integrity, he'd take this video down.
nightowl8936 2 years ago
changed from photoshop to gimp... o.O!!!!!
enanospr 2 years ago
Це показано як не треба робити.
Dreamkinss 2 years ago
the sketch process makes the logo succesful or not.
andrewwk6 2 years ago
You're Mr. Popular on YayHooray!
wethedecline 2 years ago
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wethedecline 2 years ago
Thanks for the tutorial... but this logo is rather hideous!
dcmcgov 2 years ago 5
if you cannot see this chappie is just demonstrating - and very effectively the I suggest - GO KILL UR SELF.
Jeez.... in 4 mins from sketch to logo - what do you want?
pixelrow 2 years ago
Sorry dude but that logo is HORRIBLE. Please choose another profession.
kittymilamia 2 years ago
Hello my name is Franco
I have an account called GILBERTandFRANCO with 600+ subs. I was really hopeing you could make me an intro to use in my videos. the one i use is not so great. I think you will do a better job.
If you do want to please do this:
-under 10 sec
-have it say "GILBERTandFRANCO" (custom logo would be amazing)
-upload it as a video response to my video"Story 9: Solo"
GILBERTandFRANCO 2 years ago
nice
GILBERTandFRANCO 2 years ago
calm down guys, he was just explaining the steps of graphics design, using multiple programs etc. He decided to use open source programs because not many people can pay for expensive programs. Now, I have Photoshop and blender. Photoshop is the best image editing program by far. And many people who do 3d crap know about Blender 3d BECAUSE IT IS OPEN-SOURCE. We are familiar with OPEN SOURCE PROGRAMS. Obviosly it doesn't come out the greatest, but we are familiar with it...... give him a break....
Blender3danimator 2 years ago 3
if you cant see whats wrong with this logo then you are in the wrong business. please cut your losses and enter a different profession, preferably not a creative one. really really terrible
maffews 2 years ago
Um.... logos should always be vector not raster. An a pro would use Illustrator... not to mention it all morphs in our minds and later onto many sketches and then when almost done into digital... not digital and a million versions of digital later a final... geez.
rebelliouschic 2 years ago 4
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I actually agree. I wouldn't say they should ALWAYS be vector though because it all depends on what the company wants to do with the logo. If they're gonna blow it up to a bigger size to put on a billboard, THEN vector is important. if it has little use like going onto a business card or letterhead then it shouldn't matter if its raster or not.
alucardwillfreed14 2 years ago
Yes, they SHOULD always be vector... this is how we professionals work. The only time you should be hitting Photoshop is to work on photographs or other images/illustrations. Logos, work that SHOULD be given to the client, needs to be in vector format because this IS the industry standard.
This isn't a hobby job, this is pro work with industry standards.
rebelliouschic 2 years ago 34
amen :)
benZZZgomeZZZ 2 years ago
exactly, well said. A graphic designer that gives a client or employer a logo in raster format... isn't a graphic designer. It's like a contractor using balsa wood to build a house.
AIGAOC 2 years ago
@rebelliouschic
epercente 1 year ago
Vector will allow you unlimited capabilities for enlargement/decrease as far as sizing goes. If you have a logo that is composed of an images/photo it can be vectorized. One of the best places on the internet to have a current logo updated or vectorized is mylogos4less - they charge a very reasonable price and are unbelievably fast!
epercente 1 year ago
@rebelliouschic Couldn't agree more. No matter what people say Vector is the only way to do a logo UNLESS they know that logo is specifically being used for the web which would be a really pointless logo. We aren't saying limit your self to one software we are saying the industry standard for logo design should be completely vectorized for limitless scaling of the image. A logo is made to go on many different form factors and must be versatile all around for printers to work with at all sizes.
xandshescreamedi 11 months ago
He said "I used to use Photoshop all the way and now I use GIMP"? Ok, Granted, Gimp isn't a bad application for something that is open source, BUT no designer in the world would go from Photoshop to Gimp freely. Come on now.
soundtheology 2 years ago 3
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MikeWilson2k5 2 years ago
Thats a whole lot of fucking awful right there.
Adzanrana 2 years ago 3
Is this satire? I've designed logo's by p*ssing against a wall with more worth and accuracy than this guys! Go back to school buddy!
billyduk 2 years ago 2
Dear God... who made the amateur think he knows anything about how actual designers work?
Blender? A logo made in an app like BLENDER?
Foxx1981 2 years ago 2
wow.
go back to school dude.
nckbrnt 2 years ago 3
This was the worst design I've ever seen in my life.
aaronsather 2 years ago 4
LOL these programs are not the ones you should be using to create logos. Look for Adobe Illustrator for vector based drawing and for Adobe Photoshop for raster based drawing. That sketch redraw would have taken a max of 7 minutes in Adobe Illustrator.
senciz 2 years ago 17
I wanna see the final logo!
racsoo2 2 years ago
me 2
NikkexD 2 years ago
blender hasnt been used in any motion pictutres. wow. lightwave, and 3ds max are the industry leaders.
nickrohn93 2 years ago
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damn thats a really good idea (to use that program) I use fireworks
StrangerZepeda 2 years ago
Yeah! Open Source ftw!
kalamarikahunalord 2 years ago
learn paths goddamn
"hey it really easy after i fuck around for a while and because i don't know what I am doing, it looks cool right? I mean you know what I'm talking about right? but anyways it makes this cool shape that looks nothing like the original concept because .. well its just an interesting process and i enjoy bringing this clusterfuck into the real world."
lordmagicpants 2 years ago
You need some more haters. lol
chimera15 2 years ago
I think thats really interesting! Cute =] x
clingfilmed 2 years ago
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Want a logo for a youtube background or myspace background etc.? Check my channel out!
xiTzDYLANx 2 years ago
I would like a logo for my business...what do you charge?
GBtude 2 years ago
i can make logos
MPProducti0ns 2 years ago
What do you charge?
GBtude 2 years ago
25$ i usully charge 250 on real life
MPProducti0ns 2 years ago
hey one question.. what was the thing u put ur pic on and it showed up on ur computer!?
jfwf3012 3 years ago
lol a scanner
robotcomputer 3 years ago
Lmfao...
bakerskater1219 2 years ago
omfg
freakster180 2 years ago
Don't listen to them. It's a teleporter. All good computer shops sell them. Just make sure you get the one with the "return teleport" feature, otherwise you won't get your drawing back.
PlanktonBouy 2 years ago
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ShivTube3 3 years ago
I've never heard of "Blender" but if the end result isn't vector then it's not appropriate for a logo. The reason one designs a logo in Illustrator is so it can be enlarged or reduced without losing sharpness. No pixelation. In the end you can never know how a logo will need to be reproduced, business card to billboard. It needs to work for all mediums across the board. That's why Illustrator is used for logos. Forget Photoshop. Misguided.
design321 3 years ago 4
Blender is a free 3D modeling program, similar to Milkshape or 3ds max. Its very, very good for a free program.
omegagamer89 3 years ago
so chill it out dude rater images are alright if you design them the size you print and actually digital lithograpic printing doesnt use either it has its own maths go to my channel theres a whole video on stuff like that
bouncingsoul100 2 years ago
This is the way to loose money.Lack of understanding to use the right programs. A professional logo should be done within 1 day.
THe programs to work with: Illustrator, Xara 3D, Photoshop.
pauca2005 3 years ago
I'd like to see these logos you do in a day. Do you have a link?
design321 3 years ago 2
the basic logo can be done in a day, whole manual, distances, typographic solution etc is almost impossible to do in 1 day.
orcusdei 3 years ago 2
i agree with orcusdei is impossible to make a really good logo in one day.....i think most of the "designers wannabes" think a logo it's just a an icon and some text.....but there's a lot more to it
crackfe 3 years ago 2
Thoes programs are a waste!
and one word...
VECTOR!
Damn8ti0n 3 years ago 2
i always use blender woo!
emojman 3 years ago
Cool
Tell me what you think of my logo designs
Type in "m.ricedesigns" just uploaded it today
Cool
martynjamesrice 3 years ago
is illustrator 4 free?
navidino 3 years ago
no!
BierfuXX 3 years ago
This is HACK. Scanning your sketches is great, as is the whole sketching process... but jeez, use illustrator. When I saw the .jpg format I died a little inside. Vector, man...vector.
Defenseman 3 years ago 2
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jesus your one of these fools who think you need a degree for graphic design, im not fighting you, this guy isnt great, but umm, 3D is vector, you cant render a damn vector file out of it, ontop of that, he can just zoom out, and btw illustrator is just a fucken waste, use photoshop, i use freaking powerpoint and my sketch work is better than 99% of graphic designers
QuaziGNRLNose 3 years ago
Ur a fool!...
and illustrator is amazing..
and if ur going to make a point, make sure u know what it is ur talking about.
Damn8ti0n 3 years ago
do i smell a competition coming on?
trust me i know what im talking about.
illustrator is ok, but i prefer powerpoint and make things 99% better than most REAL Graphic designers do on illustrator.
QuaziGNRLNose 3 years ago
ok, you guys: illustrator is good for polygons, vectors, and text, but of course it has limits. Photoshop is great for blending and illustrating (especially with more texture), but it too has limits, like lack of sharpness for text. THIS program he's showing us has its limits too. Buuut...I've never seen this before and am glad he took the time to show it.
billygerdts 3 years ago 3
the 3d logo design program
navidino 3 years ago
whats the name of this programm?
navidino 3 years ago
he said symbology. and im an expert in neameology.
suicidemayhem 3 years ago
Hi. my comment was not negative Suicidemayhem, i was just asking him to use the right software.
Regards.
anoddings 3 years ago
i dont think i was writing to you, i cant remember now, youtube didn't post it as a reply. i think it was to SerbianRenegade anyway. sorry for confusion.
suicidemayhem 3 years ago
OMG, use Adobe Illustrator man!
Krounz44 3 years ago 2
to each his own jackass. where's your work?
suicidemayhem 3 years ago
You suck in logo design get over it
SerbianRenegade 3 years ago
I love your explanation of this creative process.. very beautiful... thanks
DrJey69 3 years ago
gimp. THE lamest piece of software in the world. don't make me laugh.
goobernutz 3 years ago
Hey Chris, AWESOME video. I'm glad someone has the skill to show the PROCESS of designing a logo from scratch AND can actually talk through the process. My clients love my work, but think I just pull my ideas out of the air. "Um, that one logo took me a week and 30 sample logo to get it correct." Thanks man! Keep up the good work!
warrengonline 3 years ago
that was the worst logo/logo creative process I have ever seen. you fail, sir. go back to the art institute.
24HourChokePlay 3 years ago
thanks
AHMEDSHARK4313 3 years ago
Damn, he's fine!
rowelle 3 years ago
Your exactly right, logos take time, effort, input, creativity, etc... That's why it hacks me that every 18 year old with a copy of photoshop starts his own logo design business and floods the market with sub-par work.
Check out my logo reel off my channel. I'm adding more weekly.
businesslogodesign 3 years ago 2
Logos take WEEKS sometimes MONTHS to produce. They need to last years (maybe centuries if the business is really successful)
Taking the time to understand the audience is imperative, and finding a way to stand out to them is crucial. This entails writing a "creative brief".
Most logos start with many more than one draft, when I start a branding project, we start with at least 10 - maybe even upto 30 designs if I feel extra creative.
flourishcomm 3 years ago
as for this movie itself it's not very good and the logo is not very good either. furthermore the whole thing could have been simplified by just using a vector to raster program which would have saved a hell of a lot of work.
itsumonihon 3 years ago
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It's ashamed this is the highest rated vid for logo design on youtube, logo design should really be left to the pros, like me! Starting with sketches is great, but it goes much further than this, I'll be posting vids on my page on the logo process soon, right now I have one there of some of my favorite logos I've designed, check it out!
businesslogodesign 3 years ago
thnx for the vid
AjQari 3 years ago
I hope you're not selling these services. The only correct thing you've done is the sketch at the beginning. Sorry..
disgustika 3 years ago
what do you mean?
Paitro202 3 years ago
You can't use freeware programs to do a professional work. There's a reason for their high cost. It's like going on the highway with a bycicle or with a ferrari...
cainonero 3 years ago
that's a big load of shit. it does not matter what program is used as long as the end result is of good quality and the program saves to an industry standard format. i could easily make a payware program for a million dollars, or use pirated photoshop, or use the gimp that comes free with linux, or a million other programs. it's the designer not the software. jeezus.
itsumonihon 3 years ago
this is a really bad way of working... i hope no one will take advice from this please
peachcg69 3 years ago
Um, yeah you have the right idea of scanning your sketch in to work from it. But why not just go with Illustrator and pen tool it from there.
hogwartsdork84 3 years ago
Why he's using Blender for tracing? There are easier ways to do it. If he's so enthusiast of open-source software he should take a look at Inkscape.
SnakeArtworX 3 years ago
lol gimp
chavsaretwats 3 years ago
hi my name is eric hernandez i'm making this movie with whyy and i would like to know if we can use this clip of you designing a logo in our movie
einsupercorgi 3 years ago
I started out as a Linux user and at the time, Blender was the only thing available for doing 3D artwork. I must say, I didn't enjoy it at all. Props to you for even dealing with that.
CoolEditz 3 years ago 3
I have the crappiest logo EVER! but mine's animated.
treake01290 3 years ago
My logo vid sucks but kicks ass(but sucks)
Mine is better than his so sheaw
TZAR9621 3 years ago
nice logo? wtf this is crappiest logo ive ever seen, sorry.
zvuk 3 years ago
hey nice logo
hey friend can u tell me name of that software those you using for 3d some thing
plz...
smartary 3 years ago
my sister does graphic design in college shes graduating in the fall im watching this becaus me and my firend are re designing a skate board
jdk1081 3 years ago
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u suck...but i like u because u have a Mac...;)
cezarion2000 3 years ago
hmm iv never heard of using a 3d tool to produce 2d graphics and in this case the outcome was awful! unless hes going to animate the logo then he should know better!
I just hope someone who is wanting to learn logo design doesnt take advice from this video.
change the name of the video!
euanmac01 3 years ago
Also for all who doesn't know why you need to make it in vector is that when you resize the logo to any size it will not loose any detail and get pixelated. All the edges will stay smooth and you will get high detail logo even on giant posters that fits on a side of a building. It will look sharp and not blurry and pixelated.
chungdha 3 years ago
Logo need to be made in a vector based program and not a 3d or bitmap program.
chungdha 3 years ago
"Logo need to be made in a vector based program and not a 3d or bitmap program."
Right on. My earlier comments pretty much say the same thing as this. I don't know why people mark it as bad comment and make my rating negative, but I don't care that much.
Others know that logo design only needs vector drawing program. The rest of it is up to you. 3D might be useful AFTER you have the design perfected in 2D.
To start with 3D first is naive and distracting.
nightowl8936 3 years ago
I think the guy's taken a novel approach in using a 3D program. Every 3D program generates just 2D graphics, after all.
He's not saying it's the BEST logo or even the BEST tutorial (I didn't hear him refer to it as a tutorial anyway). It's just HIS design. In some ways I prefer his more natural design to some of that over-corporate over-designed bollocks every one else plasters over their me-too franchises.
speludner 3 years ago
cbs8: "Ah logo design. I don't really have stuff to say about the logo design, but I have a short story to tell about it..."
cbs8 clearly isn't much of a teacher, but he is a bit of a con-artist ... pun intended.
And speludner, you know little about logo design. You use a 2D vector program, and thats IT. You don't use any 3D program because it distracts from the design process.
And spare me your lawyer drivel. He didn't say this and he didn't say that. He doesn't say much of anything.
nightowl8936 3 years ago
So "it's my way or the highway"? Where is this rule written that says "only 2D tools. EVER"? I question your adherence to strict methodologies. Some of the best designers have broken the "rules". Further, he's not even using the 3D capabilities of Blender - he is using it as a 2D design tool.
I don't understand. Why is it you feel so 'conned' by this video? You seem to have a passion for logo design - did you want someone to teach you and he didn't do that?
speludner 3 years ago
speludner, listen to me. I am not being fascist. Review 95+ comments and you'll see that others say the same thing. 3D tool is overkill. Logos by nature are 2D objects, even if they have a 3D look to them. They are a kind of symbol, NOT a drawing of a 3D object.
I feel decieved because this video is titled "logo design" and its an incorrect and anecdotal video by a kid who only vaguely understands it.
See video:
Bell Logo - Design History & Evolution!
Read my comments. I know design.
nightowl8936 3 years ago
nightowl8936, I'm not saying you don't know design. I watched your Bell Logo video - v. professional. I'm just wondering why you're ranting against this kid instead of coming up with more of your own stuff. You obviously have the talent.
Re 2D/3D: design, technology & ideas change. A few years ago many questioned using a computer to do design instead of pencils, paper etc. Now everyone does. I'm not saying 3D is a trend, but I would view it with an open mind to see if it offers possibilities.
speludner 3 years ago
"many questioned using a computer to design instead of pencils..."
Computers can enhance many things that were traditionally done on paper, yes, but there needs to be computer analogs to the methods of the previous medium, AND functionality that the previous medium did not offer.
2D graphics on a 2D computer screen with the ability to easily make corrections and adjustments is an obvious improvement over pencil and paper.
FYI, I have designed wings with 3D CAD software so I know it too.
nightowl8936 3 years ago
Having said all that, I understand when you say you feel deceived. Certainly this kid only vaguely understands the rich art of logo design. Perhaps if he'd titled it "Playing with 3D to produce a logo" or some such you'd feel differently?
speludner 3 years ago
Just my 2 cents:
Yes, technology and ideas change. But what he's trying to say is that you shouldn't use 3d programs to make 2d graphics, and vice versa. 3d may be a new medium, but making a 2d logo in 3d is, in many ways, like filming a closeup of a book's pages being turned. It's easier to just read the book, and leave film to be its own medium.
My point is that each medium has its own place, and this video shows someone overcomplicating things a bit by mixing up the two mediums.
Bendmac525 3 years ago
"Perhaps if he'd titled it 'Playing with 3D to produce a logo' or some such you'd feel differently?"
Yes, I would consider it much more honest, though this is not nearly as bad as people who much more blatantly disrespect viewers by lying to them about their video's and tricking people into watching it. People like that should be caned Singapore style.
Anyway, this video is NOT worth nearly 50,000 views.
nightowl8936 3 years ago
Listen dude, I am sure you are a skilled graphics person, but this is less tutorial on logo design than it is about open source software.
You start off good, by talking about brainstorming graphic logo concepts, and working with the person, but you stop talking about logo design and then veer off into promoting Blender.
I am of the opinion that if your tool set is too complex, you get distracted by the bells and whistles instead of focusing on logo design itself. Blender is an example of this.
nightowl8936 3 years ago
Nice little tutorial.
TheLogoFactory 3 years ago
Blender looks like a pretty cool program. I use Illustrator and all the adobe stuff. Does Blendor come for the Mac???
wizKidd86 3 years ago
mac?! ah... when will people learn..
adsasoftwaredev 3 years ago
yeah I know
gaararocks223 3 years ago
I bought a $3000 PC a year ago, got a job at scarab design which use macs, i learnt on a mac at design school. And now my pc pretty mch is a mac and i'd trade it for a G5 any day
vectorsss 3 years ago
Just get an iMac, you can't go wrong!
metcufg 3 years ago
Macs are good machines. Their user interface is by far the best of any machine out there.
I only wish Sun workstations used Apples interface for Solaris.
The only problem with Mac is that the rest of the world is still using an inferior doppleganger of Mac called Windows.
When will THEY learn?
nightowl8936 3 years ago
Macs are good machines. Their user interface is by far the best of any machine out there.
I only wish Sun workstations used Apples interface for Solaris.
The only problem with Mac is that the rest of the world is still using an inferior doppleganger of Mac called Windows.
When will THEY learn?
nightowl8936 3 years ago
that's your opinion
WheelChairBasketball 3 years ago 3
Linux!
Userlicious 3 years ago