The one thing the liberals in the media refuse to report is that under Obama's socialist health care, it will bring some 50 million new patients into the health care system. And since there are not millions, or thousands for that matter of new doctors, THE END RESULT WILL BE SERIOUS HEALTH CARE RATIONING!
The insurance companies make a lot of money sucking the blood out of the American people. The insurance cartels have always spent a lot of money to make sure the public has few options and must pay whatever price the insurance companies demand for as little pay-out as possible. When you see someone saying Obama's reforms will hurt you, this person works for the insurance companies. Obama works for you.
iliveiaree, that is the same old tired anti-capitalist bullshit the left aways say! I am opposed to socailist health care and I am not in the pockets of insurance companies!
olivviaee, that is the same tired anti-capitalist bullshit of the left! My private health insurance covers me medical expenses just fine! But just wait, if you libs get your socialist health care, I bet you be the first to bitch when you have to wait for months because of rationing!
Healthcare Insurance can be made less expensive by reforming the liability insurance rules and by NOT restricting it to the state in which it is purchased. Price-gouging can be limited. We don't need a Public Option which is really a GOVERNMENT option. ObamaCare will NOT help us.
Article 25 (Universal Declaration of Human Rights) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
"Article 25 (Universal Declaration of Human Rights)" is BRITISH Law, - not U.S. American Law
The U.S. 25th Ammendment deals with succession to the Presidency and establishes procedures both for filling a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, as well as responding to Presidential disabilities.
And here sir, is where you are a raging misinformed asshole - The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) is a declaration adopted by the United Nations General Assembly
I DID not SAY that it was a FUCKING LAW! It is a declaration, not a treaty. When it was up for vote in 1948, the United States voted IN FAVOR of it along with 47 OTHER nations. It is not a legal binding document; it is a concept we said we AGREED with! Sorry the idea is so shitty in your view.
ME TOO>>>I don't know what is exactly going on....I hear about 5 to 8 different things but it still worries me,.,...BECAUSE I am hearing so many different things..???
The sole purpose of Global warming by the eco socialist left, just like socialist health care, is for the government to interfere and take over private industry.
Hey klingoncelt (IrishTurd) The solar flares r comming 2012 on their 11 yr cycle. Should align well w/ the Mayan prophecy thing. And being from MI I ask u another ?. Why do all the trees in MI lean to the South? Answer- Ohio sucks. I thought I'd help u out bcuz u seem a little slow. Dlete some of that lib programming and speed up ur hard drive. Best thing 4 ya. And keep the tip.........!
Hey kingoncelt "or should I say Irish Turd, The ? on the Great Lakes was rhetorical. The reason u can't see the truth b4 you is that u r blinded by lib/socialist/nazzi theology. Let me connect the dots...Glaciers melted. Did global warming cause it? yes. Did people cause GW? NO Do they now? NO The only policies libs push r ones that subvert the constitution. (can u say czars) And u no I'll even agree w/ u on Bush. Some of his stuff made me ? wtf he was do'n.
VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2010! Whether you are republican or democrat, as an american you should vote democracy alive by voting republican in 2010! Show the world that America rejects socialism, community organizers, smoochers, dead beats that want free stuff, acorn and other thugs.
Klingoncelt, you forgot one thing, we still own our guns and no shit will take them away from us! As Thomas Jefferson once said, "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." That is so true today with the leftist Democrats trying to destroy liberty! So you liberals will have a big fight on your hands! Lock and load!
Klingon, what guns do you own? I know, it is none of my business and that is the answer you will give because you don't own any guns! I never registered my guns because it is none of anyones fucking business what guns I own!
Oh... and I suppose Obama is starting a private army to fight the American people too you nutcase. Making healthcare affordable will DEFINITELY destroy America! Why not let it go up ANOTHER 70% in the next ten years or less.
Let me guess.... you're a BIG fan of that total headcase Glenn Beck, huh?!?!
The GOP's message: lie, scare, no, no, no, lie, lie, death panels, take ur' guns, lie, no, no, kill poor gramdma, scare. And dummies like you eat it up.
aargraber, it is the liberals who will not mention who will foot the 1.7 trillion price tag for socialist health care. Also, the liberals want to give amnesty to illegal aliens, and if they succeed at that, it will add millions more on top of the 50 million estimated into the socialist health care AND add a few trillion more in debt on top of the 1.7 trillion! The end result will be rationed health care, reduction of quality of care, long waits and health care will implode!
You ALREADY are paying for the uninsured. The just go to the emergency rooms. And yes... that includes the "aliens."
Having an cheap option will drive down the cost of health care. Watch what happens if we don't reform healthcare. It has gone up 70% in the last ten years and is projected to go up another 70%.
It is 1 trillion over the next ten years. You know.... the cost of the b.s. Iraq war?!
actually, newalm, we already have extremely "rationed" care. if you have any kind of insurance at the moment, they could simply refuse to pay for your treatment and drop you and you wouldn't be able to do much about it. because the us hospital care system is a semi-private industry, they have no obligation to treat you as long as you won't immediately die from it. that has nothing to do with "aliens" or the "freeloaders". that's capitalism. you're an expense that the company wants to cut.
alexasz1, actually, my health care is NOT rationed! I don't where you get that idea. I have never been refused treatment, and my insurance coverage is even greater if the doctor or hospital is PPO with my insurance and covers over 90%! And most of all, I want those fucking leftist liberals TO STAY THE HELL OUT OF MY LIFE AND MY HEALTH CARE! It is the goal of the Pelosi's, Waters, Obama's to put private health care out of business!
My daughter has a LOT of health problems BUT..when ever we need testing MRI's etc we get them ASAP...I do not have to wait..this new reform WHAT is is exactly going to do I hear so many different things that it is gonna do this and that who relly knows what IT is..I am very very worried about this reform BUT I could be wrong...but things do not look so good for the elderly as it is losing their SS raise in january WHAT IS UP WITH THAT>>What IS happening in America...kind of worried in TN
hell, yeah alexasz1! You know what I'd reeeeeeeally love to see? People citing their sources like newalm's "It is the goal of the Pelosis, Waters, Obamas to put private health care out of business." I want to know WHO wrote that, WHEN they wrote it and WHERE they wrote it. I don't give a shit about anybody's OPINIONS just like they don't care about MY opinions. I don't want SPECULATION. I want documented FACT!
Last I saw.... the only person to give illegals amnesty was Reagen.
And a public option is not "socialist health care." More scare tactics from Sarah Palin and the GOP. Try to take that "socialist" Medicare from seniors.
Making healthcare affordable is a fine goal.. the question is to how to go about achieving that goal. Do you think that introducing a government healthcare insurance monopoly will bring real healthcare costs down?
It would serve you well to begin by asking yourself why healthcare costs have increased so dramatically in the past 40 years in the first place. Something started happening about 40 years ago.
Hey klingon ( like the turd you are) If you're so willing to give up all your personal and private rights/freedoms to the alter of Obama why don't you go to DC a shoot yourself and leave the rest of up the f&*( alone. I bet you drink all the lib cool aid. Global warming!? Answer this... Where did the Great Lakes come from? and let it lead you to a natural conclusion! If you're capable? The same goes for the neonazzi lib party, their policies, their czars and their thirst fo control and power
Itc6747, people like klingon are socialists, pure and simple. They use the junk science of global warming as just another tool to take down private industry and put it in the hands of the government. The goal with the socialist liberals and global warming is to create a federal beaucracy (like socialist health care) and take over private industry with draconian laws!
If the Gov pushes out all the competition it wins by default! #1 They put into the bill penalties to make sure that happens. #2 When they have control they'll do whatever they want. Global warming is just another way to tax Americans and subvert the U S Constitution to international law and the UN. All to give $ and power to the big lib plan.. y can't u c what is going on right in front of ur face?? U want to give it all away for free what many have died for!?!?! Please explain this mentality.
I see ur eyes r wide open. Some can't see if the Gov has to pay for ur med it can also tell you what to eat and how to live and/or die. Everything is so obvious. "The wicked shall do wickedly and none of the wicked shall understand but the wise shall understand".... Try to love ur brother. Brother. It's hard at times I know... Trust me,,,I know.
itc6747, yes, that is the goal of the socialist liberals in America! They want to interfere and dictate our lives from A to Z! Tell use what cars to drive, control when we use our AC or heating, what light bulbs to use, tell us what to eat and not to eat, etc. Well, fuck them all! I will do what I want! Speaking of light bulbs, I stocked up on a 10 year supply of the old style bulbs because I know the eco libs will ban them. Those eco curly bulbs suck! Full of mercury too!
You listen hear you asshole!!! The Earth is near its flash point and thanks to you dumbass republicans the Earth might just explode into flames!!!! All the whales and polar bears will exploded from the heat and you and your family will be thrown into the sun!!!!!
Klingon, it ain't over yet! I just hope the Republicans will hold out against socialist health care because if they do, the Democrats will be the only ones holding the bag, they cannot blame or drag the Republicans down with them if it fails, and the vast majority of Americans are opposed to Obamacare. So, if the Repblicans refuse any compromise, it will mean the Democrats will be toast in 2010!
respectively, lives depend on this bill not being passed. There will be a legislative panel that essentially decides who gets treated with whatever ailment they have, and who doesn't. I think Sarah Palin said it best when she referred to them as "death panels" because they most definitely aren't "life panels."
Let me get this straight. Obama's health care plan will be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it and whose members will be exempt from it, signed by a president who smokes, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is broke. What could possibly go wrong?
Obamas administration changes their sales pitch from minute to minute. tossed by the waves of the sea..
If you cant boil this bull shit legislation down to a college level business plan, fuck it......why should we sign something we dont understand...we are talking about hundreds of billions of dollars here.
I am so sick of the intolerance of the democratic party.......if you dont immediately embrace their pile of shit legislation they call you partisan
0:40- Best health care system in the world?!? What planet is this dude living on? We are ranked 50th in live expectancy among developed nations. I think this guy is gettin paid
The number one cause of death in America is heart disease. High cholesterol, high blood pressure, obesity, diabetes, tobacco and second hand smoke are it's major contributing factors.
The life-expectancy rating has more to do with poor life style choices than anything.
I am telling you, The President is the HEAD of our country.If he truly wants this HealthCare reform,it will pass...congress WILL have to follow hios orders...He is the LEADER of our country,of congress makes a big deal. President Obama should vito every single thing,they bring to his table,unless this healthcare reform is passed. Thats what I would advice. He promised us this healthcare, I voted for that reason for him...he can make this happen...I don;t get it....i really don't.
muratshawn, actually, most Americans are apposed to socialist health care because it is to too expensive, too draconian and too big government! If the Republicans stick together and oppose Obamacare with NO compromising, the Democrats could be toast in 2010! Today, conservative talk radios ratings are at an all time high while the state run media like MSNBC and CNN are totally in the tank!
funnily enough 1940's germany didnt have a public option. Please learn the definition of the word Option. they have complete gov healthcare. They were also capitalists and anti communist o wait so are we btw please lern2notbearetard IE research singapore's healthcare system they have a public option 35-39% of there pop uses it the rest use private. you sir are retarded
And not I will han you your ass.... Germany was a Fascist state in the 40's ironicly they employ all of the same values as a communist nation, exept they allow personal property..... sounds like the angle the supporters are going at. Read a few history books and you can see it repeating itsself. Or even better look for a few newspaper articles of the time on microfiche, then you may want to never vote for a democrat again. Literally you can match their speaches with pre-war NAZI ideals.
muratshawn, with all due respect the president is NOT the DICTATOR of our country. Or, at least, he's not supposed to be. We need health REFORM, not a complete, socialistic, government take-over health system. There are many things that Congress can work on to change the system but we don't need what this president wants done and we don't need it crammed down our throats!
He's backing up desperately to a place where they can still have control, still make a killing (pardon the pun), and we're not buying it! We will show our wealthcare providers of the past the same respect they gave us when denying us the healthcare we paid for.
OMG this Palmisano guy is bought and paid for. Is that an insurance tag on his lapel? To everything he says my family says NO. We also say...too late bud.
(part 1 of 3) Republicans Should Like National Health Care for the Same Reasons They Like Tax Cuts. National Health Care will SAVE money and generate MORE tax revenue from: (1) the many small businesses that will start up from people who want to start one but are frightened of the health care costs for employees and from the many people who are unable to leave jobs because of feeling they will not be able to afford, or even be able to get, health insurance.
(part 2 of 3) National Health Care will SAVE money and generate MORE tax revenue from: (2) the many people who are currently on disability who would like to move back into the work force but are scared that if they get back in the work force or start a small business that they will not be able to get or afford health insurance. This also reduces government disability expenses. (3) the greater productivity due to fewer hours wasted and less stress dealing with insurance companies.
(part 3 of 3) National Health Care will SAVE money and generate MORE tax revenue from: (4) greater productivity due to better health and fewer sick days. (5) having fewer bankruptcies which will improve the profitability of companies and maintain the financial strength of families. Over 60% of bankruptcies are due to medical bills and over 75% of those had health insurance!
Yes to Universal Health Care. If we can go to other countries and provide health care for them why cant we take care of our own??? I don't have insurance and I am scared to get sick. My son needed to go to the hospital emergency situation only about 5 miles and I got billed $850.00 dollars. He spent two night in the hospital for observation $3000.00 dollars ridiculous!!!! Yes to Univeral Health Care.
America is #1 in healthcare by far; it is where all the medicines and advancements come from. In a socialized barrel of a gun system there is always rationing and the elderly are the hardest hit. Thats why there is a death panels provision. Larry Kudlow said that the democrats are lying about everything in this plan. Obama just lies about everything-of course he wants his corrupt cronies to be your doctor.
wow, freedomthinker7 has been floudering in his own thinking. If you're worried about rationing, you're too late. Insurance co deny coverage/payment for quality of life services freely because they fall back on their ass to say "Well we're not saying you can't have the care, we're just not going to pay for it." So if you were denied a $10,000 service every month that would restore your usefulness, would you go into debt for the rest of your life and your family's lives?
Con't from below... Women who have abortions suffer from increased self harm, depression and suicide attempts. They are 2 times more likely to kill themselves than women who don't get an abortion. Abortions can also cause problems with the woman's next pregnancy, such as pre-term birth, placenta previa and health problems for the baby. I think it is in the best interest of the mother and the baby to restrict abortions to only women who are in danger of death or injury.
Actually, the information is from "Long-term Physical and Psychological Health Consequences of Induced Abortion: Review of the Evidence". This research included 60 international studies and over 1 million women. Your dismissal of this clear evidence shows your lack of knowledge on the subject. Your condescending attitude and utter unintelligence make me sick.
I looked it up. They say they guess at how many abortions were performed, that they presume why they're performed, that their data gathering is prone to bias, that they don't know the demographics of those getting abortions, that they don't have additional pertinant medical information oabout those women, and I'm only halfway through page 4.
Get a real clinical study that is based on fact before you try that stunt again.
It looks like we are winning. Obama sounds ready to drop the "public option" portion of the bill in favor of competition from consumer-owned non-profit cooperatives selling health insurance. It is not a bad idea as long as these cooperatives do not have government backing like Fannie Mae or Freddy Mac. If they have government backing, then they are government owned. It's that simple.
zctually christians are against it mainly because most christians represent right-wing politics, or republicans. And, as you know, Republicans are against this attack on freedom and responsibility.
The biggest piece if shit I have ever heard,from a doctor?
protect patients rights?" what a joke...I wonder how much money these "doctors" get from insurance companies to compaign this shit. The reason some doctors,which I call crooks,don't want this healthcare,is because they would make less money,and would be unable to rip of patients by over charging them,what a shame,these docs even exist,money greedy monkies,best heaalth care system in the world??? biggest joke ever,pathetic!!!
unfortunately if doctors get paid less there would be less doctors. Imo that's a good thing most M.D.s are worthless. I am bigger fan of alternative medicine and I think this country is starting to look outside mainstream medicine for answers and as a country we will be better off because of it.
Anyone else amazed at how the "christians" aren't lined up in support of healthcare? I thought it was Jesus's big thing.. ya know, healing regardless of money.
Regarding the mistrust of the government: I'd rather trust the government which has an interest in seeing me alive next april, than a businessman who always has a fiscal interest in rejecting claims.
Anyone who wants to know the truth regarding healthcare minus the bs should visit the comment section of my profile. You will be able to see which repubs and dems are in the pockets of big pharma and the insurance companies as well as their phone #'s. You will also find a link to the easier to read version of the bill sent out by congress and the answers to the most commonly asked questions. Thanks.
Can someone give me some Bible verses that would support the anti-health-care-reformists' point of view? Many of them proclaim to be Christian, so I'm honestly curious.
Cooling, there is nothing in the BIble about "Thow shall have socialist health care!" Christians believe in giving from the heart, not from force by the government! There is a bid difference! That is what charities are for...and the U.S. Government is not some huge charity!
And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Your point is made. There isn't a Bible verse about "thou shalt have socialist health care." So please, supply me with a Bible verse that backs up your point, and I'll supply you with mine:
Romans 13 (NIV): 6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
D o me a favor, do not use the term christian and christianity within the United States....every single european country has and cares for its own people and provides them with health care.Those countries are the true christian nations and act like one...unlike our pathetic,fake christians....there is not NOTHING Jesus like in our country the U.S.A......go to Italy, Germany, France, Greece....and learn what its like being a christian and believing and caring for another by sharing.
I agree the USA should stop calling itself a christian nation and its politician should never speak about religion either... all european countries do not speak about religion within politics,never.
Nor do they have the word "God" printed on money.....but yet all those countries behave and act more christian like - helping eachother,rich or poor,less or more,they believe in being one nation,and share the burden and the need.Not one european would trade their healthcare with ours,not one!!!
Right on muratshawn and howardtayl- thank god somebody sees the light. How is it Republicans are so blind (wouldn't want to offend with a word like "stupid") as to overlook their own self interest in affordable healthcare for their families???? Puzzler!
isn't crazy how literallly dumb and brainwashed republicans are??? Congress,the republicancongress,even some 2 faces at democraticcongress,say how bad government plan is and its not good for america...But every one these "2 face lying chicken-shit" uses for themselfs and their family the government healthcare plan.They would never switch to the private insurance,because they know,they wouldn't be covered 100% and its a rip off...fucking pricks. Sick of these lies...
And about the people who die every day, there are over 300 million estimated american citizens. and there are people who die naturally, die in accidents, murder, and uncurable cancer. you can't use all of the reported deaths in america to justify this destruction of freedom. when the recession is over, businesses can give people's jobs back, and if the government gives incentives for businesses to supply health insurance we can more effectively lower the number of people uninsured.
When russia was hemmorhaging so much money on socialism and nuclear weapons, Americas many companies brought in revenue from workin citizens, and since a lot of people had paying jobs because of our complex market, the governments property and income taxes were modest, yet they brought in tons of money, and since everyone had the capability of taking care of themselves, and give to those less fortunate, the quality of life, and our market beat the soviet union, do we really want to abandon that?
During the cold war, everyone in russia was competing with America, It was freedom vs. communism. Capitalsim vs. socialism. back then, it was general belief that had work and an education led to a better life in america. in russia the people were poor because the businesses were owned by the government, and feeding, clothing, and giving food to evryone in a large nation is extremely expensive. Our nation, was prospering because of the supply and demand of our nation.
First off, the employee's of select banks caused this recession, they gave out loans to people who had terrible credit. The CEO doesn't get every single looan set out by the bank because they give out an estimated 500 loans per week if the bank is a national bank. after the bank gives money to those people they buy a house, which the lumber, brick, construction, and several other businesses build and spend money for. but because the people couldn't pay, so all those companies lost money.
control by governement...or control by rich greedy CEO who has done nothing thus far to help all the americans who have lost their jobs due to rich greedy CEOS just like himself.
huge and expanded profits for the health insurance companies and the drug companies while continuing this pay-or-die system that has plagued this country for decades, a system that takes 20,000 lives a year, according to the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences. Thats about fifty to sixty people who die every day. OR nationalized healthcare where the CEO and his greed are cut out of the equation.
It will change the fibre of america by denying any consumer the right to choose his/her healthcare plan. This may not seem like a big deal to some, but once implemented the discretionary power implied is staggering. When all choice is removed (page 16) The fed will be able to Dictate "healthy behavior" as a matter of national interest. Wont happen? LOL
....so if the people want health insurance, or want to switch providers then they have to choice to do so, its just that the government is offering insurance for those who cannot afford it, now does it cause competition? perhaps it does and it most likely will, but isn't that better for the public? yes it is; lower rates for great coverage benefits the public.
Its the conservative nuts that want to run around and make mobs out of people
Silver, but the liberals like Pelosi, Boxer and Maxine the Marxist Wants to eliminate private health care insurance! Pelosi only said two weeks ago that "Private Health care insurance days are numbered" Obama said in 2003 in a speech that he hopes private health care insurance will disappear, but would only happen if we get a Democrat President and Congress! Maxine the Marxist has been very vocal in her hatred of private health care insurance and wants it gone!
of course their days are numbered! the supposedly "health insurance" denies coverage for my godmother's medication! these noobs are making it harder for her to be able to afford her medicine and getting her in debt. Its much better having the government to fix the health industry bc the people alone can't even do it themselves!
of course ill oppose the legislation 100% if it approves abortion. SAY NO TO FOCA
Silver, none of the liberal Democrats have even read the socialized health care bill and don't even know what is in it! John Conyers even said he has not read it and will not read it! HOW DAY THEY IMPOSE THAT SHIT ON US AND THEY DON'T EVEN NOW WHAT IT IS!
Yeah God forbid people be allowed a CHOICE in who they want healthcare from. Even worse is the fact thatb the teabaggers are too stupid to see that they are being played like a broken violin.
No wait! Even worse are the DimWits who really pay attention to the dimwitted right wing commentary on You Tube LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Marxisy ABORTIONS for ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sarah and Todd Palin Divorcing ! Both had affairs!
HAHAHA Dimwitted teabaggers think that instead of offering viable alterntatives that don't victimize citizens in need of health care, these dullards side with insurance and health care organizations who only want profit and think that they can shout away the issues.
The GOP has succeeded i dumbing down many Americans.
GOP and the far right (they are soo in the right that we can't see them) extremists nut heads are brainwashing grandma and grandpa's brains with lies.
It's necessary for them to constantly elicit knee jerk emotional reactions because they lack the intellect to offer viable healthcare alternatives that are patient punitive.
It's Lez and isn't it odd that all those Jerry Springer wannabes suddenly can't challenge Obama when he is in their territory? You all are a JOKE now go get your inflatable doll cause I am not interested in lonely old men or hairless little pimply facd white boys.
I don't see what the problem seems to be, well for those who do not have health insurance. We have people who need health insurance and cannot afford it, even with the most affordable plans, there will those who cannot afford it. The point is that the reform will help best to those who cannot afford it. Like President Obama said, its "public option", so nobody is forced to switch insurance providers, its just another option added for the public
Hey Yo! when you were in power you never even mentioned or proposed any reform in health care. BTW, do not think that only conservative have guns, this idea is a myth. i am ready to fight.
Hey Yo! when you were in power you never even mentioned or proposed any reform in health care. BTW, do not think that only conservative have guns, this idea is a myth. i am ready to fight.
I like where this discussion about health care is going. Let all the right wing nuts speak, let them tell the lies and the misinformation. Remember during the lection they came up with the same tactic of scaring us. Like Obama is muslim etc. Let the wing nuts speak so that the center finally realize why you cannot trust the right when it comes to any reform.
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For all the people that's against the heathcare reform... I hope you guys lose your jobs .. i hope you and your kids gets cancer and then be denied coverage you selfish bastards.
a healthcare system where I work 57 hours a week between 2 jobs and have no coverage.a system where my mom and my sister and brother have no coverage.Private health insurance is like buying an extended warranty alot of profit for the comany and hope that when it comes time to use it,they pay up.we are letting my mom die right now!
Wow, MrBiblia is probably the most ignorant faggot I've seen on the youtube text comments. Why is it religious monkeys like him post information with no sources, then ridicule others opinions and discredit them without any facts to back up his argument?
Health advisors to Obama, Emanual and Sunstein believe in the Complete Lives System which basically gives care to people ages 15 to 40 and everyone else its drastically rationed. This is an extermination program. The socialized healthcare in England is the 3rd largest employer in the world and its almost all bureaucrats and few health care professions. No savings there and certainly no saving lives.
and if the religous right would do as they preach there would be no need for these liberal entitlements that you do not like. "sell all you have give to the poor and come follow me" nuff said.
You are a brainwashed, idiot. NOTHING that you have said is accurate, including your stupid religious pun...
Lets see YOU sell all you have and give it to the poor, you moron. Its idiots like you that take the Scriptures out of context and twist them- "healthcare is better in France"
Then why the Hell so many Frenchmen come to America for treatment, asshole??
well first im diest i believe in a creator not a "god" because face it divine intervention is bs but atheists are morons too. now to the discussion i have never heard of a frenchman complain about his healthcare i also wonder why so many people from OUR country go to canada for care. I hope your not religous because i dont think "god" would like the way you talk.
Hey MrBiblia whatever the fuck that means, IM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN I LIVE IN OHIO! fuck off its my country too. You think your "god" gives you the right to tell people how they should live their lives. arent you supposed to be against that? I in no way said the government should advise the elderly on suicide i simply said the government should respect their wishes.
Hey ASSHOLE- what gives you or THE GOVERNMENT the right to propose limiting treatments to the elderly and the handicapped, huh? Who the FUCK told you that communitarianism is the best thing for our country? You FUCKING FRENCHMAN- you were fucking defending French SOCIALISM- and YES- I have a "problem" with the destruction of WESTERN CHRISTIAN CULTURE- you moron...
France historically has been a fucked up country. How many times have they been invaded and someone had to bail them out!...and later they stab those who helped them in the back! FUCK EM
thanks again for validating my point by continueing to throw insults at me instead of trying to debate me civily. this is why your wrong and why noone can take u serious. first i was born in ohio i have never left this country. so canada, france, germany, U.K., netherlands, and swedan are all socialist? hmmmm read the bill and do ur research, it does not limit treatment to the elderly or handicapped.
Hey, UNBELIEVABLY DULL-WITTED - what gives private insurance the right to decide who gets treatment and who doesn't? Why should people pour money into a private system that changes the rules at least once per year.
The WESTERN CHRISTIAN CULTURE is a myth. There never were as many practicing Christians as you think. Many simply said they're christians because their parents claimed to be christian. Most "christians" know nothing about the faith that they claim.
It's idiots like you that are turning our society upside down and weakening it... Since you're throwing stones at the religious...bet you're PRO ABORTION AND EUTHANASIA?? You Nazi fuck.
well i am pro abortion to an extent, rape and life threatening is the only way abortion should be used. and i do think the elderly should be able to decide when THEY want to die. If you had a pet and the vet said it was eventually going to die and its in pain would u have it put down? why would you make your parent live if they are suffering? I say if THEY want to end their life let them, i know it will hurt people but its THEIR life not ours. let them live how they want to.thanks for the insult
Listen here Mr. Deist- believe it or not...people are BEAUTIFUL- and no government should even advise people on suicide...for the "good" of society. Read the Bill jackass.
Uncle Shmuck- it took Obama 6 months to choose a fucking dog- now he wants to pass a bill without giving people a chance to read it!
Mind your fucking business- why dont you work on REPRODUCING with a wife, rather than jerking off in front of a computer? Oh, thats right- The MUSLIMS are fucking your wives!
To be a diest means that the creator created heaven and earth and then let it all go and to let man live their lives how THEY choose. There is no intervention or miracles from him. Science is what saves li
The one thing the liberals in the media refuse to report is that under Obama's socialist health care, it will bring some 50 million new patients into the health care system. And since there are not millions, or thousands for that matter of new doctors, THE END RESULT WILL BE SERIOUS HEALTH CARE RATIONING!
newalm 2 years ago
The insurance companies make a lot of money sucking the blood out of the American people. The insurance cartels have always spent a lot of money to make sure the public has few options and must pay whatever price the insurance companies demand for as little pay-out as possible. When you see someone saying Obama's reforms will hurt you, this person works for the insurance companies. Obama works for you.
oliviareed26 2 years ago
iliveiaree, that is the same old tired anti-capitalist bullshit the left aways say! I am opposed to socailist health care and I am not in the pockets of insurance companies!
newalm 2 years ago
olivviaee, that is the same tired anti-capitalist bullshit of the left! My private health insurance covers me medical expenses just fine! But just wait, if you libs get your socialist health care, I bet you be the first to bitch when you have to wait for months because of rationing!
newalm 2 years ago
He is not my President. i hat him like Libs Hated Bush. i hope he fails. he is a loser.
y4m5m5 2 years ago
Healthcare Insurance can be made less expensive by reforming the liability insurance rules and by NOT restricting it to the state in which it is purchased. Price-gouging can be limited. We don't need a Public Option which is really a GOVERNMENT option. ObamaCare will NOT help us.
JHJennings 2 years ago
I WANT HEALTH INSURANCE!! I am middle class, young and have worked hard all my life and the premiums are crazy!! Go to hell old freakin idiots!!
FULLOOKKK 2 years ago
quickly, I need to know what patients rights are being effected by this bill
xylin3 2 years ago
Article 25 (Universal Declaration of Human Rights) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
GhostOfTheWriter 2 years ago
Here is where you look like a FOOL...
"Article 25 (Universal Declaration of Human Rights)" is BRITISH Law, - not U.S. American Law
The U.S. 25th Ammendment deals with succession to the Presidency and establishes procedures both for filling a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, as well as responding to Presidential disabilities.
You sir, are an ill informed ass.
xylin3 2 years ago
And here sir, is where you are a raging misinformed asshole - The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) is a declaration adopted by the United Nations General Assembly
I DID not SAY that it was a FUCKING LAW! It is a declaration, not a treaty. When it was up for vote in 1948, the United States voted IN FAVOR of it along with 47 OTHER nations. It is not a legal binding document; it is a concept we said we AGREED with! Sorry the idea is so shitty in your view.
GhostOfTheWriter 2 years ago
I think what you're saying is that it isn't a law but a mutual agreement. Yerp, someone didn't do too well in history.
tweetiethom 2 years ago
whoops, I stand corected.
xylin3 2 years ago
ME TOO>>>I don't know what is exactly going on....I hear about 5 to 8 different things but it still worries me,.,...BECAUSE I am hearing so many different things..???
confused in TN
thepookiemama 2 years ago
If you listen to ANYTHING a Republican has to say about it, then your listening to what the Insurance Companies want you to hear.
Democrats are trying to help people like you and the Republicans are trying to stop them.
It's that simple.
xylin3 2 years ago
I have debated far left kooks before who claim to be gun owners, but when you corner them anything about guns...they cannot answer!
newalm 2 years ago
The sole purpose of Global warming by the eco socialist left, just like socialist health care, is for the government to interfere and take over private industry.
newalm 2 years ago
And you say that I'm stoned.
You should work for Palin.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
I'll pray 4 u Irish Turd (klingoncelt)
ltc6747 2 years ago
The magic fairy what sits in the sky will not grant your wish. He's too busy putting images of his old lady and his kid on grilled cheese sandwiches.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Klingoncelt is obviously stoned or drunk...or just being a demented liberal!
newalm 2 years ago
Hey klingoncelt (IrishTurd) The solar flares r comming 2012 on their 11 yr cycle. Should align well w/ the Mayan prophecy thing. And being from MI I ask u another ?. Why do all the trees in MI lean to the South? Answer- Ohio sucks. I thought I'd help u out bcuz u seem a little slow. Dlete some of that lib programming and speed up ur hard drive. Best thing 4 ya. And keep the tip.........!
ltc6747 2 years ago
Hey kingoncelt "or should I say Irish Turd, The ? on the Great Lakes was rhetorical. The reason u can't see the truth b4 you is that u r blinded by lib/socialist/nazzi theology. Let me connect the dots...Glaciers melted. Did global warming cause it? yes. Did people cause GW? NO Do they now? NO The only policies libs push r ones that subvert the constitution. (can u say czars) And u no I'll even agree w/ u on Bush. Some of his stuff made me ? wtf he was do'n.
ltc6747 2 years ago
I can see Canada from my house!
I hope the healthcare bill covers dementia. You've got it bad, itc.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2010! Whether you are republican or democrat, as an american you should vote democracy alive by voting republican in 2010! Show the world that America rejects socialism, community organizers, smoochers, dead beats that want free stuff, acorn and other thugs.
zigzagwagwag 2 years ago
The GOP is no longer trendy.
The race will be dominated by democrats, libertarians, and some green party members.
Buhbye no longer relevant republicans, buhbye.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Klingoncelt, you forgot one thing, we still own our guns and no shit will take them away from us! As Thomas Jefferson once said, "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." That is so true today with the leftist Democrats trying to destroy liberty! So you liberals will have a big fight on your hands! Lock and load!
newalm 2 years ago
You think I don't have guns? Big fukkin' deal.
You are irrelevant, Newalm.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Klingonecelt, I bet you don't.
newalm 2 years ago
Klingoncelt, I bet you don't own guns.
newalm 2 years ago
I do. And they're registered, and no, I don't open carry.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Klingon, what guns do you own? I know, it is none of my business and that is the answer you will give because you don't own any guns! I never registered my guns because it is none of anyones fucking business what guns I own!
newalm 2 years ago
It's no one's business what UNREGISTERED guns you own, but you dare to ask about mine?
*rolls eyes*
I'll tell you this - it's just the basic package, no WMDs or anything. And a crossbow.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Oh... and I suppose Obama is starting a private army to fight the American people too you nutcase. Making healthcare affordable will DEFINITELY destroy America! Why not let it go up ANOTHER 70% in the next ten years or less.
Let me guess.... you're a BIG fan of that total headcase Glenn Beck, huh?!?!
The GOP's message: lie, scare, no, no, no, lie, lie, death panels, take ur' guns, lie, no, no, kill poor gramdma, scare. And dummies like you eat it up.
aagraber45 2 years ago
aargraber, it is the liberals who will not mention who will foot the 1.7 trillion price tag for socialist health care. Also, the liberals want to give amnesty to illegal aliens, and if they succeed at that, it will add millions more on top of the 50 million estimated into the socialist health care AND add a few trillion more in debt on top of the 1.7 trillion! The end result will be rationed health care, reduction of quality of care, long waits and health care will implode!
newalm 2 years ago
You ALREADY are paying for the uninsured. The just go to the emergency rooms. And yes... that includes the "aliens."
Having an cheap option will drive down the cost of health care. Watch what happens if we don't reform healthcare. It has gone up 70% in the last ten years and is projected to go up another 70%.
It is 1 trillion over the next ten years. You know.... the cost of the b.s. Iraq war?!
aagraber45 2 years ago
actually, newalm, we already have extremely "rationed" care. if you have any kind of insurance at the moment, they could simply refuse to pay for your treatment and drop you and you wouldn't be able to do much about it. because the us hospital care system is a semi-private industry, they have no obligation to treat you as long as you won't immediately die from it. that has nothing to do with "aliens" or the "freeloaders". that's capitalism. you're an expense that the company wants to cut.
alexasz1 2 years ago
alexasz1, actually, my health care is NOT rationed! I don't where you get that idea. I have never been refused treatment, and my insurance coverage is even greater if the doctor or hospital is PPO with my insurance and covers over 90%! And most of all, I want those fucking leftist liberals TO STAY THE HELL OUT OF MY LIFE AND MY HEALTH CARE! It is the goal of the Pelosi's, Waters, Obama's to put private health care out of business!
newalm 2 years ago
My daughter has a LOT of health problems BUT..when ever we need testing MRI's etc we get them ASAP...I do not have to wait..this new reform WHAT is is exactly going to do I hear so many different things that it is gonna do this and that who relly knows what IT is..I am very very worried about this reform BUT I could be wrong...but things do not look so good for the elderly as it is losing their SS raise in january WHAT IS UP WITH THAT>>What IS happening in America...kind of worried in TN
thepookiemama 2 years ago
hell, yeah alexasz1! You know what I'd reeeeeeeally love to see? People citing their sources like newalm's "It is the goal of the Pelosis, Waters, Obamas to put private health care out of business." I want to know WHO wrote that, WHEN they wrote it and WHERE they wrote it. I don't give a shit about anybody's OPINIONS just like they don't care about MY opinions. I don't want SPECULATION. I want documented FACT!
GhostOfTheWriter 2 years ago
Last I saw.... the only person to give illegals amnesty was Reagen.
And a public option is not "socialist health care." More scare tactics from Sarah Palin and the GOP. Try to take that "socialist" Medicare from seniors.
aagraber45 2 years ago
Making healthcare affordable is a fine goal.. the question is to how to go about achieving that goal. Do you think that introducing a government healthcare insurance monopoly will bring real healthcare costs down?
It would serve you well to begin by asking yourself why healthcare costs have increased so dramatically in the past 40 years in the first place. Something started happening about 40 years ago.
Look into it. Let me know —
Weeth 2 years ago
Hey klingon ( like the turd you are) If you're so willing to give up all your personal and private rights/freedoms to the alter of Obama why don't you go to DC a shoot yourself and leave the rest of up the f&*( alone. I bet you drink all the lib cool aid. Global warming!? Answer this... Where did the Great Lakes come from? and let it lead you to a natural conclusion! If you're capable? The same goes for the neonazzi lib party, their policies, their czars and their thirst fo control and power
ltc6747 2 years ago
Itc6747, people like klingon are socialists, pure and simple. They use the junk science of global warming as just another tool to take down private industry and put it in the hands of the government. The goal with the socialist liberals and global warming is to create a federal beaucracy (like socialist health care) and take over private industry with draconian laws!
newalm 2 years ago
Use global warming to create socialist health care that will sieze private businesses...
Are you serious?! Bwahahahahaha!
That doesn't sound stupid to you? Where do you come up with this crap?
klingoncelt 2 years ago
If the Gov pushes out all the competition it wins by default! #1 They put into the bill penalties to make sure that happens. #2 When they have control they'll do whatever they want. Global warming is just another way to tax Americans and subvert the U S Constitution to international law and the UN. All to give $ and power to the big lib plan.. y can't u c what is going on right in front of ur face?? U want to give it all away for free what many have died for!?!?! Please explain this mentality.
ltc6747 2 years ago
You are mad as a hatter.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
I see ur eyes r wide open. Some can't see if the Gov has to pay for ur med it can also tell you what to eat and how to live and/or die. Everything is so obvious. "The wicked shall do wickedly and none of the wicked shall understand but the wise shall understand".... Try to love ur brother. Brother. It's hard at times I know... Trust me,,,I know.
ltc6747 2 years ago
ITC
The insurance companies do that and you evidently think it's okay.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
itc6747, yes, that is the goal of the socialist liberals in America! They want to interfere and dictate our lives from A to Z! Tell use what cars to drive, control when we use our AC or heating, what light bulbs to use, tell us what to eat and not to eat, etc. Well, fuck them all! I will do what I want! Speaking of light bulbs, I stocked up on a 10 year supply of the old style bulbs because I know the eco libs will ban them. Those eco curly bulbs suck! Full of mercury too!
newalm 2 years ago
Itc647, another thing the Gore Ass kissers and the eco freaks will not acknowledge is that this has been the coldest year on record!
newalm 2 years ago
You listen hear you asshole!!! The Earth is near its flash point and thanks to you dumbass republicans the Earth might just explode into flames!!!! All the whales and polar bears will exploded from the heat and you and your family will be thrown into the sun!!!!!
MSNBCFAN 2 years ago
MSNBC, you are a real nut job!
newalm 2 years ago
No!!!! MSNBC has open my eyes to the truth!!!!
MSNBCFAN 2 years ago
MSNBC, you mean when Chris Matthews said Obama gives him boners when he hears him speak? Do you jack off too when hearing Obama?
newalm 2 years ago
I jackoff to Chris Matthews to get warmed up then when Obama speaks it is like a fire hose in my pants!!!!
(Obviously I am being facetious... I am not a faggot like those who work at MSNBC... check my profile for more misleading information.)
MSNBCFAN 2 years ago
Keep up the antics msnbcfan u kill me... especially when people take ur crap seriously...Hahahahaha
ltc6747 2 years ago
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klingoncelt 2 years ago
Your comment doesn't make any sense at all.
My rights were taken away by the Bushreich. I was one of the first people to send a cease & desist order to AT&T re the wiretaps.
I never said anything about Global Warming. I'm holding out for the solar flares.
You're idiot enough to ask someone from Ohio about the Great Lakes?
You need to STFU, noob.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Liberals are such fucking idiots!
newalm 2 years ago
Under socialist health care in Canada, it takes 4 months for an MRI and up to 7 months to see a doctor for treatment!
newalm 2 years ago
Newalm, still spamming vids with your lies, I see.
Take a break, you've lost, it's over, the bill will pass.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Klingon, it ain't over yet! I just hope the Republicans will hold out against socialist health care because if they do, the Democrats will be the only ones holding the bag, they cannot blame or drag the Republicans down with them if it fails, and the vast majority of Americans are opposed to Obamacare. So, if the Repblicans refuse any compromise, it will mean the Democrats will be toast in 2010!
newalm 2 years ago
No "if". It won't fail. That's what the fight is all about. The eocons want Obama to fail so they can get Palin elected in 2012.
But the bill will pass, it will be hugely successful, and we'll all dance on the GOP's grave.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
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KingCotton91 2 years ago
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KingCotton91 2 years ago
respectively, lives depend on this bill not being passed. There will be a legislative panel that essentially decides who gets treated with whatever ailment they have, and who doesn't. I think Sarah Palin said it best when she referred to them as "death panels" because they most definitely aren't "life panels."
KingCotton91 2 years ago
KingCotton91, I accidentally gave you a thumbs down. So sorry. I TOTALLY agree with you!
1Th1617 2 years ago
You listen to what Sarah Palin says?
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Let me get this straight. Obama's health care plan will be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it and whose members will be exempt from it, signed by a president who smokes, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is broke. What could possibly go wrong?
rebel985 2 years ago 3
WE NEED MORE DOCTORS AND NURSES.
Obamas administration changes their sales pitch from minute to minute. tossed by the waves of the sea..
If you cant boil this bull shit legislation down to a college level business plan, fuck it......why should we sign something we dont understand...we are talking about hundreds of billions of dollars here.
I am so sick of the intolerance of the democratic party.......if you dont immediately embrace their pile of shit legislation they call you partisan
toddolavi 2 years ago
0:40- Best health care system in the world?!? What planet is this dude living on? We are ranked 50th in live expectancy among developed nations. I think this guy is gettin paid
slickj911 2 years ago
That is a false number and you know it.
Venturestarx 2 years ago
The number one cause of death in America is heart disease. High cholesterol, high blood pressure, obesity, diabetes, tobacco and second hand smoke are it's major contributing factors.
The life-expectancy rating has more to do with poor life style choices than anything.
phibes2 2 years ago
I am telling you, The President is the HEAD of our country.If he truly wants this HealthCare reform,it will pass...congress WILL have to follow hios orders...He is the LEADER of our country,of congress makes a big deal. President Obama should vito every single thing,they bring to his table,unless this healthcare reform is passed. Thats what I would advice. He promised us this healthcare, I voted for that reason for him...he can make this happen...I don;t get it....i really don't.
muratshawn 2 years ago
muratshawn, actually, most Americans are apposed to socialist health care because it is to too expensive, too draconian and too big government! If the Republicans stick together and oppose Obamacare with NO compromising, the Democrats could be toast in 2010! Today, conservative talk radios ratings are at an all time high while the state run media like MSNBC and CNN are totally in the tank!
newalm 2 years ago
Exactly, besides I dont want to live in 1920's Russia, or 1940's Germany
Venturestarx 2 years ago
xfvkemosx 2 years ago 2
And not I will han you your ass.... Germany was a Fascist state in the 40's ironicly they employ all of the same values as a communist nation, exept they allow personal property..... sounds like the angle the supporters are going at. Read a few history books and you can see it repeating itsself. Or even better look for a few newspaper articles of the time on microfiche, then you may want to never vote for a democrat again. Literally you can match their speaches with pre-war NAZI ideals.
Venturestarx 2 years ago
In nazi Germany women had their citizenship taken away. They had to marry a German man to become citizens.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Go ahead, give me a thumbs down. Then look it up.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
muratshawn, with all due respect the president is NOT the DICTATOR of our country. Or, at least, he's not supposed to be. We need health REFORM, not a complete, socialistic, government take-over health system. There are many things that Congress can work on to change the system but we don't need what this president wants done and we don't need it crammed down our throats!
1Th1617 2 years ago
He's backing up desperately to a place where they can still have control, still make a killing (pardon the pun), and we're not buying it! We will show our wealthcare providers of the past the same respect they gave us when denying us the healthcare we paid for.
tonyreedo 2 years ago
OMG this Palmisano guy is bought and paid for. Is that an insurance tag on his lapel? To everything he says my family says NO. We also say...too late bud.
tonyreedo 2 years ago
(part 1 of 3) Republicans Should Like National Health Care for the Same Reasons They Like Tax Cuts. National Health Care will SAVE money and generate MORE tax revenue from: (1) the many small businesses that will start up from people who want to start one but are frightened of the health care costs for employees and from the many people who are unable to leave jobs because of feeling they will not be able to afford, or even be able to get, health insurance.
howardtayl 2 years ago 2
I dont know a small buisnessman who is afraid to open because of healthcare, and I know well over 50.
Venturestarx 2 years ago
(part 2 of 3) National Health Care will SAVE money and generate MORE tax revenue from: (2) the many people who are currently on disability who would like to move back into the work force but are scared that if they get back in the work force or start a small business that they will not be able to get or afford health insurance. This also reduces government disability expenses. (3) the greater productivity due to fewer hours wasted and less stress dealing with insurance companies.
howardtayl 2 years ago 2
(part 3 of 3) National Health Care will SAVE money and generate MORE tax revenue from: (4) greater productivity due to better health and fewer sick days. (5) having fewer bankruptcies which will improve the profitability of companies and maintain the financial strength of families. Over 60% of bankruptcies are due to medical bills and over 75% of those had health insurance!
howardtayl 2 years ago 2
Yes to Universal Health Care. If we can go to other countries and provide health care for them why cant we take care of our own??? I don't have insurance and I am scared to get sick. My son needed to go to the hospital emergency situation only about 5 miles and I got billed $850.00 dollars. He spent two night in the hospital for observation $3000.00 dollars ridiculous!!!! Yes to Univeral Health Care.
1carlitos1969 2 years ago 2
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NeedPublicHealthCare 2 years ago
America is #1 in healthcare by far; it is where all the medicines and advancements come from. In a socialized barrel of a gun system there is always rationing and the elderly are the hardest hit. Thats why there is a death panels provision. Larry Kudlow said that the democrats are lying about everything in this plan. Obama just lies about everything-of course he wants his corrupt cronies to be your doctor.
freedomthinker7 2 years ago
wow, freedomthinker7 has been floudering in his own thinking. If you're worried about rationing, you're too late. Insurance co deny coverage/payment for quality of life services freely because they fall back on their ass to say "Well we're not saying you can't have the care, we're just not going to pay for it." So if you were denied a $10,000 service every month that would restore your usefulness, would you go into debt for the rest of your life and your family's lives?
ktsmarts 2 years ago
Con't from below... Women who have abortions suffer from increased self harm, depression and suicide attempts. They are 2 times more likely to kill themselves than women who don't get an abortion. Abortions can also cause problems with the woman's next pregnancy, such as pre-term birth, placenta previa and health problems for the baby. I think it is in the best interest of the mother and the baby to restrict abortions to only women who are in danger of death or injury.
BIitzed 2 years ago
Where did you get that nonsense, from a 1960's parochial school health film?
Women who had abortions aren't going to harm themselves, future pregncies will not suffer complications, ...
Why am I even answering this? No one in their right mind could believe Blitzed is telling the truth.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Actually, the information is from "Long-term Physical and Psychological Health Consequences of Induced Abortion: Review of the Evidence". This research included 60 international studies and over 1 million women. Your dismissal of this clear evidence shows your lack of knowledge on the subject. Your condescending attitude and utter unintelligence make me sick.
BIitzed 2 years ago
I looked it up. They say they guess at how many abortions were performed, that they presume why they're performed, that their data gathering is prone to bias, that they don't know the demographics of those getting abortions, that they don't have additional pertinant medical information oabout those women, and I'm only halfway through page 4.
Get a real clinical study that is based on fact before you try that stunt again.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
It looks like we are winning. Obama sounds ready to drop the "public option" portion of the bill in favor of competition from consumer-owned non-profit cooperatives selling health insurance. It is not a bad idea as long as these cooperatives do not have government backing like Fannie Mae or Freddy Mac. If they have government backing, then they are government owned. It's that simple.
roncram 2 years ago
zctually christians are against it mainly because most christians represent right-wing politics, or republicans. And, as you know, Republicans are against this attack on freedom and responsibility.
krakatoa0mikel 2 years ago
The biggest piece if shit I have ever heard,from a doctor?
protect patients rights?" what a joke...I wonder how much money these "doctors" get from insurance companies to compaign this shit. The reason some doctors,which I call crooks,don't want this healthcare,is because they would make less money,and would be unable to rip of patients by over charging them,what a shame,these docs even exist,money greedy monkies,best heaalth care system in the world??? biggest joke ever,pathetic!!!
muratshawn 2 years ago
unfortunately if doctors get paid less there would be less doctors. Imo that's a good thing most M.D.s are worthless. I am bigger fan of alternative medicine and I think this country is starting to look outside mainstream medicine for answers and as a country we will be better off because of it.
ProtectoroftheTruth 2 years ago
Public option is better than the alternative....in the past decade premiums whent up 119%.......check out The Young Turks.
jozer2006 2 years ago
Anyone else amazed at how the "christians" aren't lined up in support of healthcare? I thought it was Jesus's big thing.. ya know, healing regardless of money.
Regarding the mistrust of the government: I'd rather trust the government which has an interest in seeing me alive next april, than a businessman who always has a fiscal interest in rejecting claims.
czarspuppet 2 years ago
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Smartassawhip 2 years ago
Can someone give me some Bible verses that would support the anti-health-care-reformists' point of view? Many of them proclaim to be Christian, so I'm honestly curious.
cooling1018 2 years ago
Cooling, there is nothing in the BIble about "Thow shall have socialist health care!" Christians believe in giving from the heart, not from force by the government! There is a bid difference! That is what charities are for...and the U.S. Government is not some huge charity!
newalm 2 years ago
Acts 2:44-45 (King James Version)
And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
cooling1018 2 years ago
Your point is made. There isn't a Bible verse about "thou shalt have socialist health care." So please, supply me with a Bible verse that backs up your point, and I'll supply you with mine:
Romans 13 (NIV): 6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
cooling1018 2 years ago
D o me a favor, do not use the term christian and christianity within the United States....every single european country has and cares for its own people and provides them with health care.Those countries are the true christian nations and act like one...unlike our pathetic,fake christians....there is not NOTHING Jesus like in our country the U.S.A......go to Italy, Germany, France, Greece....and learn what its like being a christian and believing and caring for another by sharing.
muratshawn 2 years ago
Murat, you still don't get it. Being a Christian is an individual thing, not a government mandate by force!
newalm 2 years ago
I agree the USA should stop calling itself a christian nation and its politician should never speak about religion either... all european countries do not speak about religion within politics,never.
Nor do they have the word "God" printed on money.....but yet all those countries behave and act more christian like - helping eachother,rich or poor,less or more,they believe in being one nation,and share the burden and the need.Not one european would trade their healthcare with ours,not one!!!
muratshawn 2 years ago
Right on muratshawn and howardtayl- thank god somebody sees the light. How is it Republicans are so blind (wouldn't want to offend with a word like "stupid") as to overlook their own self interest in affordable healthcare for their families???? Puzzler!
tonyreedo 2 years ago
Tony,
isn't crazy how literallly dumb and brainwashed republicans are??? Congress,the republicancongress,even some 2 faces at democraticcongress,say how bad government plan is and its not good for america...But every one these "2 face lying chicken-shit" uses for themselfs and their family the government healthcare plan.They would never switch to the private insurance,because they know,they wouldn't be covered 100% and its a rip off...fucking pricks. Sick of these lies...
muratshawn 2 years ago
And about the people who die every day, there are over 300 million estimated american citizens. and there are people who die naturally, die in accidents, murder, and uncurable cancer. you can't use all of the reported deaths in america to justify this destruction of freedom. when the recession is over, businesses can give people's jobs back, and if the government gives incentives for businesses to supply health insurance we can more effectively lower the number of people uninsured.
krakatoa0mikel 2 years ago
When russia was hemmorhaging so much money on socialism and nuclear weapons, Americas many companies brought in revenue from workin citizens, and since a lot of people had paying jobs because of our complex market, the governments property and income taxes were modest, yet they brought in tons of money, and since everyone had the capability of taking care of themselves, and give to those less fortunate, the quality of life, and our market beat the soviet union, do we really want to abandon that?
krakatoa0mikel 2 years ago
During the cold war, everyone in russia was competing with America, It was freedom vs. communism. Capitalsim vs. socialism. back then, it was general belief that had work and an education led to a better life in america. in russia the people were poor because the businesses were owned by the government, and feeding, clothing, and giving food to evryone in a large nation is extremely expensive. Our nation, was prospering because of the supply and demand of our nation.
krakatoa0mikel 2 years ago
First off, the employee's of select banks caused this recession, they gave out loans to people who had terrible credit. The CEO doesn't get every single looan set out by the bank because they give out an estimated 500 loans per week if the bank is a national bank. after the bank gives money to those people they buy a house, which the lumber, brick, construction, and several other businesses build and spend money for. but because the people couldn't pay, so all those companies lost money.
krakatoa0mikel 2 years ago
control by governement...or control by rich greedy CEO who has done nothing thus far to help all the americans who have lost their jobs due to rich greedy CEOS just like himself.
barbcinque 2 years ago
barb, yes, those greedy capitalist pigs! Down with Capitalism! Workers of the world unite! LOL!
newalm 2 years ago
Oh please....it will give us a choice:
huge and expanded profits for the health insurance companies and the drug companies while continuing this pay-or-die system that has plagued this country for decades, a system that takes 20,000 lives a year, according to the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences. Thats about fifty to sixty people who die every day. OR nationalized healthcare where the CEO and his greed are cut out of the equation.
barbcinque 2 years ago
It will change the fibre of america by denying any consumer the right to choose his/her healthcare plan. This may not seem like a big deal to some, but once implemented the discretionary power implied is staggering. When all choice is removed (page 16) The fed will be able to Dictate "healthy behavior" as a matter of national interest. Wont happen? LOL
Mopaza 2 years ago
So the fat neocons will have to give up their fried Twinkies? Ooooh, that puts us on the slippery slope to hell.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
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asapilot3064 2 years ago
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asapilot3064 2 years ago
Health care totally sucks in the US for 99% of the population. I know because I experienced superior health care in the Netherlands for 33 years.
This guy is a liar.
danceatlantis 2 years ago
89% we need 100% Health Care for EVERYONE!
Yep he IS a Liar
lezxotic 2 years ago
hey i have a question what are the top ten countries when it comes to healthcare?
and What Type of healthcare do they have
ZOGM
xfvkemosx 2 years ago
#1 watch?v=uNR_6UuVl4s
danceatlantis 2 years ago
good question... idk
silver5149 2 years ago
You do the research iuf you want to know.
lezxotic 2 years ago
....so if the people want health insurance, or want to switch providers then they have to choice to do so, its just that the government is offering insurance for those who cannot afford it, now does it cause competition? perhaps it does and it most likely will, but isn't that better for the public? yes it is; lower rates for great coverage benefits the public.
Its the conservative nuts that want to run around and make mobs out of people
silver5149 2 years ago
Silver, but the liberals like Pelosi, Boxer and Maxine the Marxist Wants to eliminate private health care insurance! Pelosi only said two weeks ago that "Private Health care insurance days are numbered" Obama said in 2003 in a speech that he hopes private health care insurance will disappear, but would only happen if we get a Democrat President and Congress! Maxine the Marxist has been very vocal in her hatred of private health care insurance and wants it gone!
newalm 2 years ago
of course their days are numbered! the supposedly "health insurance" denies coverage for my godmother's medication! these noobs are making it harder for her to be able to afford her medicine and getting her in debt. Its much better having the government to fix the health industry bc the people alone can't even do it themselves!
of course ill oppose the legislation 100% if it approves abortion. SAY NO TO FOCA
silver5149 2 years ago
Silver, none of the liberal Democrats have even read the socialized health care bill and don't even know what is in it! John Conyers even said he has not read it and will not read it! HOW DAY THEY IMPOSE THAT SHIT ON US AND THEY DON'T EVEN NOW WHAT IT IS!
newalm 2 years ago
Yeah God forbid people be allowed a CHOICE in who they want healthcare from. Even worse is the fact thatb the teabaggers are too stupid to see that they are being played like a broken violin.
No wait! Even worse are the DimWits who really pay attention to the dimwitted right wing commentary on You Tube LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Marxisy ABORTIONS for ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sarah and Todd Palin Divorcing ! Both had affairs!
So Much 4 Family Valuez! Shoot a Moose!
lezxotic 2 years ago 4
i think she slept with a moose and he fucked his sled machine hah
silver5149 2 years ago
HAHAHA Dimwitted teabaggers think that instead of offering viable alterntatives that don't victimize citizens in need of health care, these dullards side with insurance and health care organizations who only want profit and think that they can shout away the issues.
The GOP has succeeded i dumbing down many Americans.
lezxotic 2 years ago
+1 for lezxotic =D
GOP and the far right (they are soo in the right that we can't see them) extremists nut heads are brainwashing grandma and grandpa's brains with lies.
silver5149 2 years ago
It's necessary for them to constantly elicit knee jerk emotional reactions because they lack the intellect to offer viable healthcare alternatives that are patient punitive.
lezxotic 2 years ago
Lex, FUCK SOCIALISM!
newalm 2 years ago
It's Lez and isn't it odd that all those Jerry Springer wannabes suddenly can't challenge Obama when he is in their territory? You all are a JOKE now go get your inflatable doll cause I am not interested in lonely old men or hairless little pimply facd white boys.
lezxotic 2 years ago
I take it your a spook feeding off the government based on your pathetic post.
newalm 2 years ago
They wrote it, you jacked up clown, of course they know what's in it.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
Kling, well then, if they wrote it, John Conyers has a very short term memory as to what is in the bill!
newalm 2 years ago
The only problem is that government run insurance will not cover what people think!
newalm 2 years ago
if only
Mopaza 2 years ago
I don't see what the problem seems to be, well for those who do not have health insurance. We have people who need health insurance and cannot afford it, even with the most affordable plans, there will those who cannot afford it. The point is that the reform will help best to those who cannot afford it. Like President Obama said, its "public option", so nobody is forced to switch insurance providers, its just another option added for the public
silver5149 2 years ago
Hey Yo! when you were in power you never even mentioned or proposed any reform in health care. BTW, do not think that only conservative have guns, this idea is a myth. i am ready to fight.
nspineda9 2 years ago
Hey Yo! when you were in power you never even mentioned or proposed any reform in health care. BTW, do not think that only conservative have guns, this idea is a myth. i am ready to fight.
nspineda9 2 years ago
I like where this discussion about health care is going. Let all the right wing nuts speak, let them tell the lies and the misinformation. Remember during the lection they came up with the same tactic of scaring us. Like Obama is muslim etc. Let the wing nuts speak so that the center finally realize why you cannot trust the right when it comes to any reform.
nspineda9 2 years ago
Just show me any government run health organization that is doing a great job??
ZIP, ZERO, NADA The government cant do this any better than Medicare, the VA hospitals, welfare, social security or the IRS.
My GOD you cant believe they can take care of your healthyoure not that stupid are you??? Or are you??
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Smartassawhip 2 years ago
For all the people that's against the heathcare reform... I hope you guys lose your jobs .. i hope you and your kids gets cancer and then be denied coverage you selfish bastards.
m3mane30 2 years ago
a healthcare system where I work 57 hours a week between 2 jobs and have no coverage.a system where my mom and my sister and brother have no coverage.Private health insurance is like buying an extended warranty alot of profit for the comany and hope that when it comes time to use it,they pay up.we are letting my mom die right now!
aliensdreamland 2 years ago 3
Drivel
robw1031 2 years ago
Wow, MrBiblia is probably the most ignorant faggot I've seen on the youtube text comments. Why is it religious monkeys like him post information with no sources, then ridicule others opinions and discredit them without any facts to back up his argument?
Take a speech class you ignorant fuck.
grubtubs 2 years ago
What we need is
"flat-rate no-limit primary care"
Everyone will agree it works best for all.
Just google it!
It's a real solution where doctors and patients alone are in charge to make the right decisions without insurance OR government interference.
animateclay 2 years ago
Health advisors to Obama, Emanual and Sunstein believe in the Complete Lives System which basically gives care to people ages 15 to 40 and everyone else its drastically rationed. This is an extermination program. The socialized healthcare in England is the 3rd largest employer in the world and its almost all bureaucrats and few health care professions. No savings there and certainly no saving lives.
freedomthinker7 2 years ago
Leftwingers and their lazy ass "entitlement" bullshit! They think money grows on trees and everything is a free lunch!
newalm 2 years ago
and if the religous right would do as they preach there would be no need for these liberal entitlements that you do not like. "sell all you have give to the poor and come follow me" nuff said.
CVK92 2 years ago
You are a brainwashed, idiot. NOTHING that you have said is accurate, including your stupid religious pun...
Lets see YOU sell all you have and give it to the poor, you moron. Its idiots like you that take the Scriptures out of context and twist them- "healthcare is better in France"
Then why the Hell so many Frenchmen come to America for treatment, asshole??
MrBiblia 2 years ago
well first im diest i believe in a creator not a "god" because face it divine intervention is bs but atheists are morons too. now to the discussion i have never heard of a frenchman complain about his healthcare i also wonder why so many people from OUR country go to canada for care. I hope your not religous because i dont think "god" would like the way you talk.
CVK92 2 years ago
Hey dumbell... why are you sticking your shit nose into our American Business...don't you have enough trouble in your own country?
Second, don't give me any lessons on deism- I have more education on religion than you can even imagine.
Perhaps it is your "deist" belief of a "god" that winds up creation and leaves it on its own...that leads you to compare the elderly to "Pets..."
What a moron.
MrBiblia 2 years ago
Hey MrBiblia whatever the fuck that means, IM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN I LIVE IN OHIO! fuck off its my country too. You think your "god" gives you the right to tell people how they should live their lives. arent you supposed to be against that? I in no way said the government should advise the elderly on suicide i simply said the government should respect their wishes.
CVK92 2 years ago
Hey ASSHOLE- what gives you or THE GOVERNMENT the right to propose limiting treatments to the elderly and the handicapped, huh? Who the FUCK told you that communitarianism is the best thing for our country? You FUCKING FRENCHMAN- you were fucking defending French SOCIALISM- and YES- I have a "problem" with the destruction of WESTERN CHRISTIAN CULTURE- you moron...
MrBiblia 2 years ago
France historically has been a fucked up country. How many times have they been invaded and someone had to bail them out!...and later they stab those who helped them in the back! FUCK EM
newalm 2 years ago
how did they stab us in the back?
CVK92 2 years ago
thanks again for validating my point by continueing to throw insults at me instead of trying to debate me civily. this is why your wrong and why noone can take u serious. first i was born in ohio i have never left this country. so canada, france, germany, U.K., netherlands, and swedan are all socialist? hmmmm read the bill and do ur research, it does not limit treatment to the elderly or handicapped.
CVK92 2 years ago 2
Hey, UNBELIEVABLY DULL-WITTED - what gives private insurance the right to decide who gets treatment and who doesn't? Why should people pour money into a private system that changes the rules at least once per year.
The WESTERN CHRISTIAN CULTURE is a myth. There never were as many practicing Christians as you think. Many simply said they're christians because their parents claimed to be christian. Most "christians" know nothing about the faith that they claim.
klingoncelt 2 years ago
It's idiots like you that are turning our society upside down and weakening it... Since you're throwing stones at the religious...bet you're PRO ABORTION AND EUTHANASIA?? You Nazi fuck.
MrBiblia 2 years ago
well i am pro abortion to an extent, rape and life threatening is the only way abortion should be used. and i do think the elderly should be able to decide when THEY want to die. If you had a pet and the vet said it was eventually going to die and its in pain would u have it put down? why would you make your parent live if they are suffering? I say if THEY want to end their life let them, i know it will hurt people but its THEIR life not ours. let them live how they want to.thanks for the insult
CVK92 2 years ago
Listen here Mr. Deist- believe it or not...people are BEAUTIFUL- and no government should even advise people on suicide...for the "good" of society. Read the Bill jackass.
Uncle Shmuck- it took Obama 6 months to choose a fucking dog- now he wants to pass a bill without giving people a chance to read it!
Mind your fucking business- why dont you work on REPRODUCING with a wife, rather than jerking off in front of a computer? Oh, thats right- The MUSLIMS are fucking your wives!
MrBiblia 2 years ago
You are not a smart person, be quiet
BenkaiDebussy 2 years ago
You are a troll....fuck you.
MrBiblia 2 years ago
To be a diest means that the creator created heaven and earth and then let it all go and to let man live their lives how THEY choose. There is no intervention or miracles from him. Science is what saves li