Is Shakespeare Portrait Real?

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Looks like Thomas Overbury.

[ChristineA67]

Ros Barber's article "Stanley Wells and the Cobbe Portrait" very reasonably questions the merits of Wells's claim.

[skimmer1844]

the shakespeare character is a complete phoney. When you look at the evidence the man could never of wrote those plays. He uses certain legal terms that only a lawyer would use an also some are about the kings court and also are pagan. The truth of the matter is that sir francis bacon is the real shakespeare, and the word shakespeare represents athena the greek goddess whos used to shake her spear. When you look at how he used to sign his name it seemed almost iliterate. Well check it out.

[edboswell]

Bacon has been supplanted by his relative, Edward de Vere. Bacon was too young, and had too full of a life to do both. I believe he was on the Oversight committee, along with other de Vere relatives, for the 1st Folio, as Bacon had employed Ben Jonson as a secretary.. Baconians are primarily puzzle/cipher fans. MOSTLY, I do not say this to you. DeVere went to Gray's INN, and his daughter was engaged to the 3rd Earl of Southampton at the time of the "procreation sonnets". CHEERS

[NOtoPROP8]

...Rimbaud, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Sappho, Sophocles, Stefan George, Tennyson, Thomas Mann, Thoreau, T.S. Eliot, Tolstoy, Virgil, Virginia Woolf, Walt Whitman, William Blake, Aristophanes, August Strindberg, Heinrich von Kleist, Gerard Manley Hopkins, Hart Crane, Horace, Jalal al-Din Rumi, James Baldwin, Joe Orton, Konstantin Batyushkov, Max Jacob, Michael Drayton, Richard Howard, Robert Duncan, Samuel Butler, Thornton Wilder, Truman Capote, Ursula Le Guin, Walter Pater, Willa Cather.

[NOtoPROP8]

The world's greatest writer, William Shakespeare, was gay and good looking.

Major writers who were gay include Alexander Pope, Baudelaire, Bertolt Brecht, Cervantes, Emily Dickinson, Euripedes, Catullus, Hans Christian Anderson, Henry James, Friedrich Hölderlin, Goethe, John Milton, Juana Inés de la Cruz, Juvenal, Lord Byron, Marlowe, Martial, Melville, Montaigne, Molière, Muhammad ibn Abd al-Malik ibn Quzman, Nikolai Gogol, Oscar Wilde, Ovid, Paul Verlaine, Percy Shelley, Pindar, Proust

[AlanHilter]

Whilst you are sort of right, you are also kind of wrong.

What one must do is dissasociate oneself from the notions of "gay", "straight" or "bi". These notions did not exist in the Elizabethan or early Jacobean world (certainly not the theatrical world!).

People fell in love with people. London in the late 16th/early 17th century was a multi-racial metrosexual city in which creed, colour, gender, sexuality simply did not matter. What a wonderful world!

[kissfool]

Thank you! I had to explain this same thing to a group of Grad students two years ago, and they didn't get it.

[choosethat]

I agree.

I suppose that diviting into be, gay, "normal" is a "problem" of our time. And it's so strange like to think that red colour is better than blue and apple is tastier then banana )

He was a genius and no matter gay, woman or a group of people.

[edboswell]

There is believable proof that Edward de Vere was bi-sexual. He brought back a 15 year old choir boy from Italy. A spy for the King of Spain substantiated the rumor. De Vere was listed as being in the middle on the Catholic Church debate in England. So no need to bag on him. Without gays and blacks, we would be a sad culture, to be sure!!!!

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[BAQASHYAH]

Why is the statue on his tombstone black if he wasn't a black man to begin with? is the statue of Tomas Jefferson or Lincoln Memorial, statues of black men? would any race pay tribute to one of their own by painting them in the likeness of another race? ....Hmmmmmmm.....

[kissfool]

It doesn't look that dark in real life.

And paint changes color as it ages, particularly over centuries. And when exposed to smoke, incense, etc.

[BAQASHYAH]

Nice try, but being that Shakespeare is an incredibly famous historical figure, there's a thing called "upkeep" or "Preservation" or "maintainence" they wouldn't let his statue go without it. On top of that, it's a statue of him not a painting. The color on paintings become dark over time, but paint on statues fade..they lose color. So again, if he wasn't a blackman to begin with, then why is his statue black?

[kissfool]

First of all, spare us your sanctimonious, passive -aggressive "nice try" remark- it really means nothing but the exposure of an untenable belief.

That being said, I SAW that monument in July of 2007 and it in NO WAY looks like a "blackman," as you put it.

As to S. being "an incredibly famous historical figure," I suggest some real research into DAVID GARRICK and his contribution to S.'s fame.

I'm not sure what your point is, but could you back it up with something?

[BAQASHYAH]

Oh so now Shakespeare is not an historical famous person? and at 45-46 seconds of this video we're not looking at a statue of a 'Black man"? it's a historical fact that Moors populated alot of regions in Europe and even ruled some areas as well thru what's called the Dark Ages and the Middle-ages. So my point is simple, somebody is lying about how Shakespeare looked. My apologies bout the "nice try" comment it was unnecessary.

[reedme36]

Anyone with a brain.

[Skeebow42]

Who gives a flying fuck.