zhao ziyang visited Tiananmen Massacre (Tibetans issue) Tibet song

[vujade1]

Quite a valid statement especially in this era of unprecedented consumer fetishism. Yes, Zhao and those millions of people did indeed betray their 'government', and from the core of my being i applaud them for that. But even more so the point that most do not see is ...as soon as Tiananmen was squashed, governments around the world heaved a big sigh of relief.

[MsUseagle]

SB, your idiot! the reason of what they sighed was that the attempt to overturn Chinese goverment, to break up China, to get their own benefits, was frustrated.

[vujade1]

Your response is amusing yet false + deceptive. You didn't even grasp 1 iota of the previous comment. And you display a tremendous act of unintellectual apish wit in your framing of reality and it is obvious you'd rather stay in this cultural trance as most of mankind has done throughout existence. Tiananmen, inside and out had absolutely nothing to do with the breaking up of countries or even the notion of "countries" themselves.

Didn't you get the mass-age?

[MsUseagle]

it's really very very nice, for what u said (except the last parag.) is what I want to tell u! I strongly recommend you to have a detailed investigation among ur family or ur relatives in China, if you have. Westerns definitly hope to see China in chaos. What u did was, is and will what they have attempted to do!

[vujade1]

The details of these investigations on any country at any time are based upon "necessary" illusions instilled upon the masses by their 'leaders'. Huge amounts of global civilization are operating on automatic pilot. And we the little people, down in the labyrinthine streets of the city, looking up at the castle as the great ones come and go. Its Information Science--the observation of modern primates-of their dominance games and their violently enforced hierarchical structures.

[vujade1]

I'm merely trying to present memes which forcefully cut against the dominant paradigm, memes which must be seriously explored and disseminated. Perhaps the reintroduction of psychedelic plants may play a necessary role in solving humanity's current predicament. Why? Because they dissolve boundaries, its a starting point. Otherwise I see mankind having a little more than 100 left in his existence.

History is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake."

-James Joyce

[MsUseagle]

答复2：你目前的言论给我留下的印象就是典型的空谈。我在中国走­过的地方应该比你多得多，中国，是不是真正地发展了，生活是不是­比以往都好，自身的诉求是不是更好得到实现，从我所见所闻来看，­答案是肯定的。

[vujade1]

以前我住在中国四年多。在中国你是哪儿的人？ I can understand a lot about what you meant. I will study more of it later. 但是用汉字我不知道怎么回答。我的汉语还不是很流利。 The situation is very complex. good talk with you. enjoyed the distance we traversed.

五陵北原上， 万古青蒙蒙。

净理了可悟， 胜因夙所宗。

誓将挂冠去， 觉道资无穷。

[MsUseagle]

1011答复2：或许，您是站在老百姓的立场上去看8964，因­此您的观点我是理解的。但是，您别忘记了，政治家可不会有像您这­样的善意！最后，有一点我可以告诉你：我不会去议论您的祖国的政­治，不会去尝试分裂您的祖国，但我及我所有爱中国的同胞们也不会­恣意纵容他人对我们的伟大祖国说三道四、图谋不轨！

[MsUseagle]

1011答复0：赫赫，原来你仅仅在中国住了四年多！怪不得我说­的话隐含的意思您不太理解。而我，武汉人，中国生、中国长，一直­到二十来岁出国！感谢您对我的伟大祖国--中国的关心！作为一个­外国人，您是很难了解中国的国情与历史文化的，正如我自己很难真­正了解您的祖国的国情与历史文化。

[MsUseagle]

答复1：这个时候我觉得我应该用中文给你上一课了。

没有调查就没有发言权。你目前最需要的就是客观地从你关心的各个­方面进行一次国内调查（处于经济方面的考虑，你可以选择自己的朋­友+家人，当然样本数要尽可能地大），然后再去客观地分析所收集­的数据吧。

[westwooood2]

@MsUseagle 您他妈的是脑残呢吧

[MsUseagle]

答复3：我们在海外的呢？请问有几个享受到白人们的所有民主？我­们中的有几个不是生存在做好自己的事情，游离于所谓的主流社会之­外的状态？是吧，在国内，我们方方面面都可以参与，发现的问题当­然会多。

[MsUseagle]

答复4：在国外呢？生活简单到什么样子，我想我不必在此阐述。由­此，别人政府内部发生的事情，我们又如何知道呢？最后，华氏91­1片尾说的一些话，我强烈建议你去温习一下。

[MsUseagle]

What Chinese goverment did in 6-4, was, and is correct, any country would do as it. Zhao ZY is rubbish, he betrayed his goverment. All the killed are deserved. If 6-4 happened in USA or UK, and so in, killed will be more.

[20097sam]

Come on Chinese Peoples, we need more Peoples like Zhao Ziyang & HH Dalai Lama.

FREE CHINA & FREE TIBET

[TheRealChina]

Chinese people will Stand up and protect SOCIAL JUSTICE ! over communist lies

[20097sam]

China continues to censor the internet, lock up citizens who organize peacefully, & try to prevent 1.3 billion people from learning the truth about history.

Contradictions of calling for democratic reform, freedom of speech and assembly, & an end to corruption. How long such a Big Nation of 1.3 billion people will take this as nothing happen.

We from Free World have Big Responsible, while inside China under the Dictatorship of CCP Peoples been lock up just Expression of their Right.