I think Penn and Teller have a contradictory stance on this episode. They were lambasting and criticizing the people behind the rebuilding for not being sensitive to the victims' families, but they advocating just rebuilding the twin towers and continue business as usual.
While I agree with P&T's stance, it just doesn't seem to fit with the episode's message.
Religious houses of worship shouldn't be built ANYWHERE! Be it Islam, Christian, Jewish, etc all religion is a delusion and only makes things worse. Wake up and get with the now. Religious institutions of any sort should no longer be built.
@MrSoprano0125 Title of your video is "what should be built ON ground zero", so obviously my reading comprehension skills aren't the ones in question here...
@dagame81790 you're right it is not directly on ground zero, but the building that was where they want to build it was destroyed by debris from the twin tower attacks
@MrSoprano0125 plus it's not necessarily true. If you were referring to the show, one singular entity called "Penn and Teller" than "are" would be incorrect.
Words that will live in infamy ... oh, wait, we didn't do that. But hey, we did still build a building. Just a better designed one that wouldn't collapse from a plane so easily.
yeah, ok, rebuild the twin towers, which not only look shit, but the people of new york said they were shit when they were first built. great idea. why not just rebuild the twin towers but with a more appealing design that people may actually enjoy on their front doorstep
I don't think a reasonable, skeptical person can argue that building 7 was not a controlled demolition. But it doesn't mean buildings 1and 2 were. (Not saying they weren't.) I've thought it's possible that any building with FBI and/or CIA offices - or any federal offices in them - could have been, and likely still be, pre-wired for demolition as a means of defense. Think the Government will tell the Starbucks to whom they are leasing that little they can blow their shop, its baristas and their
@gjnelson70 Shut up, truther. Controlled demolitions require explosives. Explosives are very loud. You don't hear explosives in any video of any WTC building collapse.
Penn is right, but the description and caption at the beginning are wrong. There was NEVER a proposal to build a mosque at ground zero. That was Faux News bull$#!+.
The proposal was for an Islamic cultural center SEVERAL BLOCKS AWAY — further away than an actual MOSQUE that’s ALREADY fewer blocks away and has been there for years, since long BEFORE 9/11!
The Cordoba Center is named for what was once the most advanced city in Europe, where Muslims, Jews, and Christians lived together in peace.
I have agreed with this idea since it happened. Because it's ultimate symbolism of how terrorism cannot change the western way of life.
It's also a much better option than retaliation, violence and hatred. It would show how we would be the better, stronger and more rational people.
I would think of it as a statement that terrorism cannot destroy our way of life and cannot turn us into the same violent hate filled people that try to use terrorism to destroy the world for everyone.
2 planes crashed 1 in 1 building 1 in an other. the weight of floor 1 times the gravitational force means a=9.82 and m= some tons. some tons*9.82=shitload of force pushing down on the next floor which will increase m and so the next force will be higher and the speed will increase come on guys simple physics. F=MA Where A=G and M=weight of floors above plane crash. F= X N/M and over an Area it will mean N/M² that the force will be quadratically less and still be a shitload on every single point.
The explosives didn't melt the steel - thermite did. Explosives were needed for other purpose. What comes out of all this. We have facts. Engine fuel couldn't have melted the steel, and there was no material in the building that could have. Thus, it was put there purpously and works were made to put it there by people who had access. Building 7 went down entirely, perfectly from only fires, from controlled demolition as expert engineers say. And officials knew it would, told firemen to exit.
What's sad is that people don't realize the terrorists won. PBS did a documentary on the reconstruction of the towers, and how we're making it stronger to withstand things like truck bombs, and special glass that won't cut you if the towers go down again. No, people, the terrorists won. Their idea was to spread terror, and they did. We're scared of another terrorist attack, and we create fortresses to "make us feel safe" and spread more fear by building said fortresses.
If they do, they shouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened, because it would just be provoking. That being said, I think they should indeed be rebuilt. And that mosque should remain there as well. Because it's neither a mosque, or is being built at ground zero. I laugh at the fact they tell people to inform themselves before expressing themselves, but yet no one seems to know it will be a (Islamic, sure) cultural centre with restaurant and swimming pool half a kilometre from Ground Zero.
@koorgen - So how do you think it works. air traffic control directly calls a fighter pilot and he just shoots the plane down? Literally hundreds of planes have been hijacked before do you want to give me one instance where they have got fighter jets to one and shot it down? Or is every hijacking an "inside job"? Never in the history of aviation anywhere in the world have they shot down a hijacked plane why would they just decide to do it that morning?
@ledawg1138 Listen fuckface. I Have my own knoledge the only reason 9/11 happend was because everyone in the political world benefited. for example bush got the war his father couldnt finish. cheny got his pielpines for free oil in afghanistan. Plus his company halliburton to come and rebuild those nations. the provate banking industry gains profit from this war and last but not least. silverstein the owner of the building got more money that what he spent on the buildings to begin with.
@ledawg1138 oh yeah and one more thing. one day before 9.11. Mr. Rumsfeld couldnt track 2.3 trillion dollars from taxpayers money and claims to have not have knowledge of where the money went. It went to the military for infinite spending on war. The next day the suspected "plane" that hit the pentagon was where all the intelligence was of where the money was going. once again think before you act.
@stayawayfromtheshed You should hear my dad, I finally found me a very pretty Muslim girl that I was very interested in, and he scared her off and called me a traitor to the Catholic religion by letting in some "Saracen" into the house <_<
@BananaOwn Thats what I thought when I heard they were building the new trade center buildings. I think there will be people who want to, but a lot of people would refuse. Even if the buildings are indestructible, if a plane hits the building, people will still die, maybe not 3000, but 300 or so, no one wants to be one of the 300.
They should have put those buildings back up right after 9/11. I'm talking months after destruction.
After they seen those planes go in, turn around and come back a year or two later and see them back up again, would show a great big fuck you like no other. They wasted their time.
I wouldn't care if it was the exact same design structure. Use your odds, what are the chances a plane is going to hit twice?
I certainly wouldn't want a mosque on ground zero or any religious center for that matter. There was a religious connotation to the attacks on the towers and Penn must have picked up on that because he flicks off the idea of changing the norms.
I agree with the idea of putting the towers back up, but his attitude seems disrespectful. Does he realize that part of the reason for terrorism is the way the US acted in the middle east in the 20th century, substituting dictators for freely elected heads of state and generally screwing shit up... supporting Saddam in Iraq, selling everyone weapons... I mean, what al Qaeda did was unforgivable, but just saying "Fuck You" to the people we wronged isn't the way to prevent terrorism in the future.
The Liebeskind architecture-design ( and the two others ) is an design of chaos. There is no harmony in it - no Christian spirit. It will destroy the whole silhouette
of New York. If you want that " looks like nothing" - Dubai design you have to built up a new city, but that will be no American city. Only the Twin towers stands for the strength of the US !
@agent4844 They were strong at the time. They were build to sustain several airplane crashes into them. Just listen to the architects who designed them.
No building is safe from a controlled demolition as was done in 9/11. Explosions everywhere. And building 7 went down just from fires!
Look it up, evidence is out there. 9/11 was an inside job.
Um, no it wasn't. If you think 9/11 was a conspiracy done by the government, you need to be shot in the head. How the fuck could it be an inside job when PLANES that millions of people saw flew into the buildings and made them collapse?
@TheZombieOutOfHell "How the fuck could it be an inside job when PLANES that millions of people saw flew into the buildings and made them collapse?". If the joint operation was conspired by the government? But we have countless evidence of other explosions that occurred before and after they struck. Empirical science sucks for for some ideologues :(.
@TheZombieOutOfHell Government is just a puppet acting under the influence of the World bank cortells, Airplanes crashed in but it doesn't mean buildings collapsed from that. I am an architect myself and I can tell you there is no way they could collapse with the free fall speed which is 10 floors per second. And the molten metal found in the wrecks that wasn't supposed to be there...
9/11 event was made by your government to start a profitable invasive war in iraq.
@skydragon4ever Wow you really are an idiot aren't you? You're right on one thing, the airplanes crashing didn't make the buildings collapse, it was the jet fuel MELTING the frame to the point where the weight of the building collapsed on itself, jet fuel burns hot enough to do this. 9/11 was an act of terrorism, the terrorists wanted to strike fear into the minds and hearts of the American people which they successfully did, BUT, they did NOT have any help from our government to do so.
@TheZombieOutOfHell There were no terrorists, it was all the CIA working with the government. Forget your stupid patriotism and look the facts ito the eyes. steel melts at around 1,370°C (2500°F), way above the jet fuel burning temperature. And there was found Termite (explosive used at demolition) on site. Youare being lied to, severely! By your puppet president included.
No, YOU are being lied to by people who want a deep explanation for EVERYTHING. Every conspiracy theory is wrong, the Grassy Knoll conspiracy, 9/11 conspiracies, every single conspiracy is wrong! The steel didn't melt, it doesn't have to melt to be bendable, it just needs to be at a very high temperature so it's malleable aka BENDABLE. The steel became so malleable that the weight of the 110 story tall buildings bent it and made the buildings come crashing down. And no thermite was never used.
You are blinded - why? because most of people believe it? That's a mass lie and if you watch tv there is no point of talking with you. Look a bit at nuilding 7 - it went down just like one that would be demolished. And it only had fires of several floors.
you ARE being lied to. don't believe something just because the TV says so. It's brainwash. Literally. Investigate the facts by yourself and make up your own conclusions.
@skydragon4ever Ok, I DID do research and that's why I've come up with this conclusion you delirious moron. And just like all conspiracy nutjobs, you didn't even mention the facts that I gave because you knew they were true, but you want to be right so you just go on to a whole other bullshit claim that you've already stated a million times. Fires can cause buildings to come down and that's what happened to Building 7, not demolitions, you would have seen the explosions if that were the case.
There was molten steel found in the wrecks. Molten, not bent. This can only be achieved at high temperatures. And listen to the accounts by people who were in the building at the time: many report explosions even before the collapse. And if you watch the videos closely, you will see the explosions out of the windows. WTC was collapsing at the free fall speed, and too smoothly, only possible in a controlled demolition.
@TheZombieOutOfHell Plus, if what you say was indeed true, then we would see the remaining steel bars (which didn't bend or melt) sticking out of the ground at 10-15 floors, those were strong structural bars! but everything was wiped out. And the big amount of dust contained substances remaining after explosions. Investigate building 7 - never before nore since has a building collapsed from fires only...
@skydragon4ever Ok, well tell me this, if burning jet fuel couldn't melt the steel, how the hell could an explosion do so? Explosions are mostly made of fire and a shockwave, if the burning fuel couldn't "melt" the steel, how could a little bit of fire from an explosion? I've dealt with explosions for 9 years and I can tell you that they do not do much to the fire resistant steel used in the Twin Towers. They can break them because of the shockwave sure, but MELTING them? No way.
@skydragon4ever Thermal expansion is what caused the floors to fail thus the building collapsed. You cannot disprove physics and how they work, and this is what went on here. Physics caused Building 7 to collapse, not explosions
@skydragon4ever uhhh no actually building 7 went down because a funny thing happens when a tower falls. See imagine a pile of rocks 15ft tall and u stand 4 ft from it. Now lets say it collapses. Do you really think that none of those rocks are going to smack you in the face? Didnt think so. Also just because someone "says" something doesnt mean its true. Im sure you dont just take things as true whenever someone says them... right?
@skydragon4ever you're the kind of fucks that penn and teller hate. Are you fucking serious? Did you not see two fucking planes go into a fucking building? Or was that all CGI?
@jojolw234 Lmfao, it was joke because they were so serious in the video that I was in such a great mood that I felt like sharing my stupidity on the internet. Don't be mad bro.
So, you're saying that freedom is fine as long as you make sure to submit to threats?
Wh-... I don't even know where to start...
You-ehhh... You do that, good luck with that, yeah... And, to use your logic to make the world a better place:
Don't get involved in politics, if you do: I'll be offended, and according to the dumb scripture I just made up; it also requires me to burn down your house and dress up any pets you have as burlesque dancers.
This would be true if the mosque was actually on ground zero and not 3 blocks away. This whole mosque non-issue really goes to show how frighteningly unforgiving Americans can be. They're so mad that they'll take away peoples freedoms to do what they want with their money so they can get some kind of half-ass revenge on people who didn't even do anything to them. Fuck America.
@TheFacelessActivist The first part of the constitution talks about different branches of government and the rest of it is basically how America should be run. There is nothing about religious centers being, "Anti American."
Read the amendments. First sentence reads "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. " That means: Feel free to believe in god, just don't bother the rest of the world with it."
@TheFacelessActivist When you want me to read the amendments, don't tell me to read the first sentence of the constitution. Since when is building a religious center making a law? It's anti-American to make a law in favor of one religion; it's not anti-American to build a religious center with your own money (or even with the governments money). If it was, there would be a large absence of Christian churches in America.
Were your parents clumsy when near the top of a flight of stairs?
So? Be realistic, the person who starts it started it, and is therefore responsible. I always got blamed in school whenever I started something, and this time it's not even due to racism...
...My nemesis was a sly bastard, they never blame the colored kid...
You still don't get it. All established religion is frowned upon by the American idealism due to their fascist manifestations. George Washington said so himself. But I'm sorry for not narrowing it down before, I thought you weren't an idiot. I won't make that mistake twice.
Any real American aware of the concept of liberty will know that religion is meant to be a personal thing, held within the private confinements of one's thought, any "centers" is un-American, simple.
1. Not two different things, just the same thing, but different. Geez...
2. Not true, by original American concepts, it's all frowned upon. It's just that the US was hijacked by Christians a long time ago. Not in a conspiracy-kind of way, just in a more conspiracy-kind of way.
3. Sure, but no supporter of American ideologies will be fore it. It's not like I'd forbid it. I'd just find it evil.
@TheFacelessActivist A secularized religious center is still something made by choice, and it is not favored or frowned upon by America (Especially in this case with Muslims). I think you're taking the whole "Freedom of religion," a bit too far by saying the founding fathers were against all churches. And yes, I agree anyone who says America is a Christian nation needs to be shot.
Why am I not a good atheist? Is it because I believe in freedom of religion?
The freedom of religion is personal faith and spiritualism. Churches and mosques are houses of preaching and oppression. The Islamic faith is a plague, just like Christianity. It's represented by narrow-minded pricks. You will never understand this since like 90% of all Americans, you bought in to the "Muslims are nice"-propaganda. But read some fucking history. Muslims, Christians, Jews... They're all out for religious authority. The very same mentioned by the constitution.
@TheFacelessActivist What you don't understand is I'm not saying Muslims are nice. Neither am I saying they are fucking bubonic plague carrying monsters. I am simply saying they deserve to do what they want with their own money as long as it doesn't interfere with government law making. Don't make bad religious people in the past an accountability for those today, can you imagine if I said all modern Egyptian people don't deserve to build museums simply because their ancestors had slaves?
Recently a law was passed saying that vandalism towards religious artifacts would bring a more severe penalty. Also any violent crime against a muslim is considered a "hatecrime". Yet, tons of jews are moving to avoid violent crimes caused by jew-hating muslims. Muslims gain tons and tons of "legal amnesty" due to their manipulative establishment.
It's not easy to just stand by as these people get away with bigotry and poverty. So it does interfere with legislation.
@TheFacelessActivist I think we can both agree with that to an extent. But I'm not about to strip their freedoms from them, neither am I giving them any special laws. Getting down to the basic argument though, building religious establishments in America is not anti-American. Even if it's wrong, it's not anti-American.
It is if you use it to give your religion special treatment. I mean, why else would they build it only a few blocks away? It's provoking. That way they offend people, and then they can call the people who get offended "Racists and inslamophobes", and they get some more money and civil rights in their little sympathy bank.
I don't mind all muslims, got tons of friends who are. But they never go to a mosque. Just like most Christians don't go to church.
Are Penn and Teller being willfully ignorant of the reams of evidence providing a solid case asserting that all three towers were blown up with nanothermite?
@Beesnchickens That seems to be the case. They will never put the twin towers back up because it wouldnt make sense. Just as with most demolitions: they are taken down in order to make room for something new and better. People that cry for the twin towers to be rebuilt in a show of indignation are two things: Patriotic and uninformed. The United States government is neither.
@Vonwales FUCK THE FREEDOM TOWER! It is a pile of piece of SHIT that should not be built at ground zero. FUCK YOU TOO IF YOU SUPPORT THE FREEDOM TOWER!
1) The nanothermite theory has been debunked countless times.
2) Every single "Truther" conspiracy theory has been debunked countless times.
3) Making claims like this only insults the memory of those who died that day. On 9/11, religious fucknuts attacked our country and killed a lot of innocent people. That's the truth. If the US governmet was responsible for 9/11, I'm certain I'd be hearing about it from more than fringe lunatics like you. Fuck you, you insensitive asshole!
When did Penn and Teller stop being magicians?
clokverkorange 3 days ago
I think Penn and Teller have a contradictory stance on this episode. They were lambasting and criticizing the people behind the rebuilding for not being sensitive to the victims' families, but they advocating just rebuilding the twin towers and continue business as usual.
While I agree with P&T's stance, it just doesn't seem to fit with the episode's message.
DeadFishFactory 1 week ago
video shown out of context. This was made YEARS before the debacle over the alleged mosque that is NEAR Ground Zero.
tmrbass 1 week ago
Is this a bullshit episode? I don't recognize it......id like to see all of it
cocacoda 2 weeks ago
Religious houses of worship shouldn't be built ANYWHERE! Be it Islam, Christian, Jewish, etc all religion is a delusion and only makes things worse. Wake up and get with the now. Religious institutions of any sort should no longer be built.
iihippoii 2 weeks ago
We should build 2 240 story towers, with an antennae that looks like a middle-finger on top.
quidnick 3 weeks ago
Penn and Teller for presidency!
IndyB25 3 weeks ago
THANK U
PalmTreeCloud 3 weeks ago
what should we build? Osama bin ladens grave sight...
THEKOOL4iDMAN697 3 weeks ago
They're not building a mosque on the site, they're building it NEAR the site... tard
dagame81790 4 weeks ago 8
@dagame81790 "What should be built instead of a religious structure NEAR ground zero"
Can't you read?
You cretin....
MrSoprano0125 4 weeks ago
@MrSoprano0125 Title of your video is "what should be built ON ground zero", so obviously my reading comprehension skills aren't the ones in question here...
dagame81790 4 weeks ago 6
@dagame81790 Well then might i suggest watching the video instead of just reading the title?
MrSoprano0125 4 weeks ago
@MrSoprano0125 yeah fuck that mosque
wait it's a tiny inter-faith community center
imjohnfreeman 2 weeks ago
@dagame81790 you're right it is not directly on ground zero, but the building that was where they want to build it was destroyed by debris from the twin tower attacks
MrRangersfan123 2 weeks ago
@dagame81790 this video isn't even about a mosque... are you an idiot?
RandomTrollAccount 5 days ago
@RandomTrollAccount I was responding to his description.
dagame81790 5 days ago
penn & teller ARE right, not IS...
:)
AnarchyEnsues 1 month ago 10
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@AnarchyEnsues no one likes a grammar Nazi dude
MrSoprano0125 1 month ago
@MrSoprano0125 plus it's not necessarily true. If you were referring to the show, one singular entity called "Penn and Teller" than "are" would be incorrect.
still don't like grammar nazis? :3
hotrod926 2 weeks ago
Words that will live in infamy ... oh, wait, we didn't do that. But hey, we did still build a building. Just a better designed one that wouldn't collapse from a plane so easily.
AGgirldoll 1 month ago
@AGgirldoll What a true American would do
AGgirldoll 1 month ago
Business as USUAL FUCKERS! haha love teller in that scene.
ElBarto1193 1 month ago
One does not simply fly into the twin tow- FUCK!
YouAreABunghole 1 month ago
@Aaronomus please read my comment again. Nothing about it indicates whether I am, or am not a "Truther". Thank you.
gjnelson70 1 month ago
Next president anyone like if agreed
JackKruserZA 1 month ago
Next president anyone like f agreed
JackKruserZA 1 month ago
Why not build The Three Towers
blakeyonthebuses 1 month ago 28
@blakeyonthebuses You mean the Triplet Towers
DerpinWin 3 weeks ago
yeah, ok, rebuild the twin towers, which not only look shit, but the people of new york said they were shit when they were first built. great idea. why not just rebuild the twin towers but with a more appealing design that people may actually enjoy on their front doorstep
binkiie4dictator 1 month ago
@binkiie4dictator
um no.
TehUltimateSnake 1 month ago
I love it
strongman17 1 month ago
I don't think a reasonable, skeptical person can argue that building 7 was not a controlled demolition. But it doesn't mean buildings 1and 2 were. (Not saying they weren't.) I've thought it's possible that any building with FBI and/or CIA offices - or any federal offices in them - could have been, and likely still be, pre-wired for demolition as a means of defense. Think the Government will tell the Starbucks to whom they are leasing that little they can blow their shop, its baristas and their
gjnelson70 1 month ago
@gjnelson70 Shut up, truther. Controlled demolitions require explosives. Explosives are very loud. You don't hear explosives in any video of any WTC building collapse.
Aaronomus 1 month ago
Penn is right, but the description and caption at the beginning are wrong. There was NEVER a proposal to build a mosque at ground zero. That was Faux News bull$#!+.
The proposal was for an Islamic cultural center SEVERAL BLOCKS AWAY — further away than an actual MOSQUE that’s ALREADY fewer blocks away and has been there for years, since long BEFORE 9/11!
The Cordoba Center is named for what was once the most advanced city in Europe, where Muslims, Jews, and Christians lived together in peace.
COMALiteJ 1 month ago
They have the right idea but i dont agree with america being free or them saying that Osama Bin Laden did it.
ANIOLATORV 1 month ago
I have agreed with this idea since it happened. Because it's ultimate symbolism of how terrorism cannot change the western way of life.
It's also a much better option than retaliation, violence and hatred. It would show how we would be the better, stronger and more rational people.
I would think of it as a statement that terrorism cannot destroy our way of life and cannot turn us into the same violent hate filled people that try to use terrorism to destroy the world for everyone.
Drinapropriatetouch 1 month ago
why not just build a big zero?
gdogvibes1 1 month ago
keep being free? deluded more like
ehpl 1 month ago
2 planes crashed 1 in 1 building 1 in an other. the weight of floor 1 times the gravitational force means a=9.82 and m= some tons. some tons*9.82=shitload of force pushing down on the next floor which will increase m and so the next force will be higher and the speed will increase come on guys simple physics. F=MA Where A=G and M=weight of floors above plane crash. F= X N/M and over an Area it will mean N/M² that the force will be quadratically less and still be a shitload on every single point.
livedandletdie 1 month ago
Man people need to read a chemistry book once in a while.
DrStank64 1 month ago
Absolutely right!
Channel05 1 month ago
right on
rte66byhd 1 month ago
The explosives didn't melt the steel - thermite did. Explosives were needed for other purpose. What comes out of all this. We have facts. Engine fuel couldn't have melted the steel, and there was no material in the building that could have. Thus, it was put there purpously and works were made to put it there by people who had access. Building 7 went down entirely, perfectly from only fires, from controlled demolition as expert engineers say. And officials knew it would, told firemen to exit.
skydragon4ever 1 month ago
@skydragon4ever *thermate
username7046 1 month ago
@skydragon4ever
If you don't like America get the FK out, go scratch ur worthless balls.
dodgers162003 1 month ago
@dodgers162003 that's the point, I don't live there any more =)
skydragon4ever 1 month ago
I think he would make president. Probably needs a more out spoken VP.
EmperorOfMars 1 month ago
Why wasn't it ever seriously considered to build the towers back exactly as they were?
zacthebold 1 month ago
Oh yeah. This is why people hate Americans so much.
knowthetruth1492 2 months ago
@knowthetruth1492 Because we say fuck you to people who kill our people and destroy our buildings?
beastynig 1 month ago
Rebuild the Twin Towers, as they were, and put a small plaque at the bottom.
That's it. Fuck you, muslim assholes.
BloodofPatriots 2 months ago
HELL YEAH!!!
thesleepyweasel000 2 months ago
why are two gay magicians giving their opinions on everything? poor teller gets crushed
loxleymendoza 2 months ago
AMERICA FUCK YAAAAA!!!!!
joevalu 2 months ago 15
@joevalu COMIN' AGAIN TO SAVE THE MOTHA FUCKIN DAY, YEAH
overthetopprod 2 months ago
What's sad is that people don't realize the terrorists won. PBS did a documentary on the reconstruction of the towers, and how we're making it stronger to withstand things like truck bombs, and special glass that won't cut you if the towers go down again. No, people, the terrorists won. Their idea was to spread terror, and they did. We're scared of another terrorist attack, and we create fortresses to "make us feel safe" and spread more fear by building said fortresses.
PhilanVortex 2 months ago
If they do, they shouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened, because it would just be provoking. That being said, I think they should indeed be rebuilt. And that mosque should remain there as well. Because it's neither a mosque, or is being built at ground zero. I laugh at the fact they tell people to inform themselves before expressing themselves, but yet no one seems to know it will be a (Islamic, sure) cultural centre with restaurant and swimming pool half a kilometre from Ground Zero.
Isteinier 2 months ago
Side by side instead of staggered like they used to be?
I don't quite agree.
fedupx5900 2 months ago
@fedupx5900 missing the point buddy
phrozen17 2 months ago
@fedupx5900 And the award for missing the point entirely goes to...:P
Pyrosity 2 months ago
@koorgen - So how do you think it works. air traffic control directly calls a fighter pilot and he just shoots the plane down? Literally hundreds of planes have been hijacked before do you want to give me one instance where they have got fighter jets to one and shot it down? Or is every hijacking an "inside job"? Never in the history of aviation anywhere in the world have they shot down a hijacked plane why would they just decide to do it that morning?
WillShakespeare2007 2 months ago
Went down the Pulaski skyway yesterday, the new ones coming along well isnt it?
scarface12347 2 months ago
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAAA??!?!?!!!?????!!!!! XD
PalmTreeCloud 2 months ago
hahaah how ignorant he is and how little he knows
awesomeman161 2 months ago
@awesomeman161 how is he ignorant?>
TheOriginalNathanOSU 2 months ago
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@TheOriginalNathanOSU Because 9/11 was an inside job
awesomeman161 2 months ago
@awesomeman161 Osama bin Laden hated homosexuals. So stop sucking him off one.
ledawg1138 2 months ago
@ledawg1138 Listen fuckface. I Have my own knoledge the only reason 9/11 happend was because everyone in the political world benefited. for example bush got the war his father couldnt finish. cheny got his pielpines for free oil in afghanistan. Plus his company halliburton to come and rebuild those nations. the provate banking industry gains profit from this war and last but not least. silverstein the owner of the building got more money that what he spent on the buildings to begin with.
awesomeman161 2 months ago
@ledawg1138 oh yeah and one more thing. one day before 9.11. Mr. Rumsfeld couldnt track 2.3 trillion dollars from taxpayers money and claims to have not have knowledge of where the money went. It went to the military for infinite spending on war. The next day the suspected "plane" that hit the pentagon was where all the intelligence was of where the money was going. once again think before you act.
awesomeman161 2 months ago
Rebuild the original twin towers but place SAM installations on the roof.
MrAtom322 2 months ago
Argue against this.
megamonkeypickle 3 months ago
9-11 was an inside job! build a public execution place to hang Bush and his clique by the fucking neck till dead.
2tame4fame 3 months ago
@2tame4fame : I realize you're probably trolling but...ARE YOU SERIOUS? This has been debunked so many times.
Siphonoglyph 3 months ago
@Siphonoglyph Im not "trolling" whatever that means in internet language. Believe what you will. Regards.
2tame4fame 3 months ago
@2tame4fame Penn and teller actually made of video for people like you. Look up 9-11 BULLSHIT!
Jc40k1 3 months ago
We (Americans) screwed the Palestinians by supporting Zionist Jews and their fanatical drive to take magical "holy" land.
We shouldn't have become involved in the Middle East in the first place.
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago
what mosque are you talking about?the one that's blocks away from the site and has NOTHING to do with 9/11?
warpedwiselegoman 3 months ago
@warpedwiselegoman it's not even a mosque, it's a community centre with a basketball court blocks away
viridismonasteriense 3 months ago
build the same buildings,
but w/ anti-aircraft machinery built in to shoot planes down lol.
UltraProle21 3 months ago
I agree. We should have rebuilt those towers as they were, asap.
It would've shown the world that we aren't controlled by fear and we're not going to slow down or apologize for our way of life.
Unfortunately, that didn't happen. We have a bunch of bumbling idiots coming up with ridiculous, unsound structures (and getting paid).
On top of that, many American's walk around with shifty eyes, ready to label someone with brown skin as a terrorist.
stayawayfromtheshed 3 months ago
@stayawayfromtheshed You should hear my dad, I finally found me a very pretty Muslim girl that I was very interested in, and he scared her off and called me a traitor to the Catholic religion by letting in some "Saracen" into the house <_<
RedneckYachtClubber 3 months ago
@RedneckYachtClubber
If you really like her then don't let that stop you, man.
Chase her down.
stayawayfromtheshed 3 months ago
While kicking OSAMA'S ass at the same time.
CMTreptow 3 months ago
@Returnofthejedi1000 I'm very sorry. I was a moron 8 months ago. I deleted the comment. I apologize...
RPtwinz 3 months ago
It's a cool idea but who on earth would like to work there, knowing what happened soem years ago?
BananaOwn 4 months ago
@BananaOwn
I would feel honored to work there.
Enigmatism415 3 months ago
@BananaOwn Thats what I thought when I heard they were building the new trade center buildings. I think there will be people who want to, but a lot of people would refuse. Even if the buildings are indestructible, if a plane hits the building, people will still die, maybe not 3000, but 300 or so, no one wants to be one of the 300.
thispoorguy 3 months ago
@thispoorguy people are always going to die, giving in to some crazy religious bigot wont stop that.
JamesDaHall 3 months ago
They should have put those buildings back up right after 9/11. I'm talking months after destruction.
After they seen those planes go in, turn around and come back a year or two later and see them back up again, would show a great big fuck you like no other. They wasted their time.
I wouldn't care if it was the exact same design structure. Use your odds, what are the chances a plane is going to hit twice?
gredangeo 4 months ago
@IlluminatedRain
I certainly wouldn't want a mosque on ground zero or any religious center for that matter. There was a religious connotation to the attacks on the towers and Penn must have picked up on that because he flicks off the idea of changing the norms.
CrazySquireL1st 4 months ago
i love it.
R4uispy123 5 months ago
I agree with the idea of putting the towers back up, but his attitude seems disrespectful. Does he realize that part of the reason for terrorism is the way the US acted in the middle east in the 20th century, substituting dictators for freely elected heads of state and generally screwing shit up... supporting Saddam in Iraq, selling everyone weapons... I mean, what al Qaeda did was unforgivable, but just saying "Fuck You" to the people we wronged isn't the way to prevent terrorism in the future.
middleCmusic 5 months ago
@middleCmusic Wow. A well written, reasoned argument in a YouTube comment? What is the world coming to!?!?! ;)
JQuabbe 5 months ago
@JQuabbe thanks :)
middleCmusic 5 months ago
@middleCmusic hey there, mind you ...you should check al qaeda´s foundation and Brejinskis influence.
/watch?v=ek7ZHenQnu4
cheers.
paquitomoralles 5 months ago
@middleCmusic I agree with Penn 'Fuck You'.
Daggur 3 months ago
i want my house to be built on ground zero :)
sshers1 5 months ago
Freedom tower looks like a middle finger to me. ololololo
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Jk981206 5 months ago
Build them back like they were except make them taller than the Sears tower in Chicago this time.
Bcroft39 5 months ago
Pen & Tell are hella bad-ass!! I like their plan. But the WTC's were hella ugly. The Freedom Tower look better already.
TeknikAlity34 6 months ago
WOOHOOO who is this guy de deserves to be Human of the YEAR!!!!
MrHeyfuckoff 7 months ago
He'll yeh penn and teller
xXV3NOMZXx97 7 months ago
Fuck yeah! Freedom bitchez
hyperpower1000 7 months ago
But who would want to work in that building?
Linder0th 7 months ago
Remove video now !!! Because it's too late !!! Ground Zero fully under construction, not Twin Towers !!!
m057miros 8 months ago
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Business as usual mother fuckers fuck you!
CClaudio21 8 months ago
the first thing you'ld want to do in america is learn the truth about 9/11 and arrest the criminal government who perpetrated it.
larrydelamb 8 months ago
A mosque.
qasim140 9 months ago
shyt he read my mind
516mrme 9 months ago
Fuck you asshole terrorists!!!
Lindylax821 9 months ago
The Liebeskind architecture-design ( and the two others ) is an design of chaos. There is no harmony in it - no Christian spirit. It will destroy the whole silhouette
of New York. If you want that " looks like nothing" - Dubai design you have to built up a new city, but that will be no American city. Only the Twin towers stands for the strength of the US !
govi70 9 months ago
The new buildings look better than the twin towers
MrJan142 10 months ago
rebuilt
MRFBMELO 10 months ago
fuck yeah!!!!
thesouthrapsucks 1 year ago
I agree! rebuild the same buildings for the same usage, but make them stronger!
agent4844 1 year ago 42
@agent4844 And mabye some PHALANX gun batteries on the roofs.....
dangard88 3 months ago
@agent4844 stronger and taller. and maybe a red, white, and blue paint job
GOD719 3 months ago
@agent4844 Then the government will hire undercover workers to pre-plant bombs so that it will perfectly come down again!... XD
SilkEclipse 2 months ago
@agent4844 They were strong at the time. They were build to sustain several airplane crashes into them. Just listen to the architects who designed them.
No building is safe from a controlled demolition as was done in 9/11. Explosions everywhere. And building 7 went down just from fires!
Look it up, evidence is out there. 9/11 was an inside job.
skydragon4ever 2 months ago
@skydragon4ever
Um, no it wasn't. If you think 9/11 was a conspiracy done by the government, you need to be shot in the head. How the fuck could it be an inside job when PLANES that millions of people saw flew into the buildings and made them collapse?
TheZombieOutOfHell 1 month ago
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@TheZombieOutOfHell "How the fuck could it be an inside job when PLANES that millions of people saw flew into the buildings and made them collapse?". If the joint operation was conspired by the government? But we have countless evidence of other explosions that occurred before and after they struck. Empirical science sucks for for some ideologues :(.
xxxxAXIxxxx 1 month ago
@TheZombieOutOfHell Government is just a puppet acting under the influence of the World bank cortells, Airplanes crashed in but it doesn't mean buildings collapsed from that. I am an architect myself and I can tell you there is no way they could collapse with the free fall speed which is 10 floors per second. And the molten metal found in the wrecks that wasn't supposed to be there...
9/11 event was made by your government to start a profitable invasive war in iraq.
skydragon4ever 1 month ago
@skydragon4ever Wow you really are an idiot aren't you? You're right on one thing, the airplanes crashing didn't make the buildings collapse, it was the jet fuel MELTING the frame to the point where the weight of the building collapsed on itself, jet fuel burns hot enough to do this. 9/11 was an act of terrorism, the terrorists wanted to strike fear into the minds and hearts of the American people which they successfully did, BUT, they did NOT have any help from our government to do so.
TheZombieOutOfHell 1 month ago
@TheZombieOutOfHell There were no terrorists, it was all the CIA working with the government. Forget your stupid patriotism and look the facts ito the eyes. steel melts at around 1,370°C (2500°F), way above the jet fuel burning temperature. And there was found Termite (explosive used at demolition) on site. Youare being lied to, severely! By your puppet president included.
Watch the movie Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Addendum.
skydragon4ever 1 month ago
No, YOU are being lied to by people who want a deep explanation for EVERYTHING. Every conspiracy theory is wrong, the Grassy Knoll conspiracy, 9/11 conspiracies, every single conspiracy is wrong! The steel didn't melt, it doesn't have to melt to be bendable, it just needs to be at a very high temperature so it's malleable aka BENDABLE. The steel became so malleable that the weight of the 110 story tall buildings bent it and made the buildings come crashing down. And no thermite was never used.
TheZombieOutOfHell 1 month ago
@TheZombieOutOfHell
You are blinded - why? because most of people believe it? That's a mass lie and if you watch tv there is no point of talking with you. Look a bit at nuilding 7 - it went down just like one that would be demolished. And it only had fires of several floors.
you ARE being lied to. don't believe something just because the TV says so. It's brainwash. Literally. Investigate the facts by yourself and make up your own conclusions.
Pleace out.
skydragon4ever 1 month ago
@skydragon4ever Ok, I DID do research and that's why I've come up with this conclusion you delirious moron. And just like all conspiracy nutjobs, you didn't even mention the facts that I gave because you knew they were true, but you want to be right so you just go on to a whole other bullshit claim that you've already stated a million times. Fires can cause buildings to come down and that's what happened to Building 7, not demolitions, you would have seen the explosions if that were the case.
TheZombieOutOfHell 1 month ago
@TheZombieOutOfHell did you see me insult you? no.
There was molten steel found in the wrecks. Molten, not bent. This can only be achieved at high temperatures. And listen to the accounts by people who were in the building at the time: many report explosions even before the collapse. And if you watch the videos closely, you will see the explosions out of the windows. WTC was collapsing at the free fall speed, and too smoothly, only possible in a controlled demolition.
skydragon4ever 1 month ago
@TheZombieOutOfHell Plus, if what you say was indeed true, then we would see the remaining steel bars (which didn't bend or melt) sticking out of the ground at 10-15 floors, those were strong structural bars! but everything was wiped out. And the big amount of dust contained substances remaining after explosions. Investigate building 7 - never before nore since has a building collapsed from fires only...
skydragon4ever 1 month ago
@skydragon4ever Ok, well tell me this, if burning jet fuel couldn't melt the steel, how the hell could an explosion do so? Explosions are mostly made of fire and a shockwave, if the burning fuel couldn't "melt" the steel, how could a little bit of fire from an explosion? I've dealt with explosions for 9 years and I can tell you that they do not do much to the fire resistant steel used in the Twin Towers. They can break them because of the shockwave sure, but MELTING them? No way.
TheZombieOutOfHell 1 month ago
@skydragon4ever Thermal expansion is what caused the floors to fail thus the building collapsed. You cannot disprove physics and how they work, and this is what went on here. Physics caused Building 7 to collapse, not explosions
TheZombieOutOfHell 1 month ago
@skydragon4ever uhhh no actually building 7 went down because a funny thing happens when a tower falls. See imagine a pile of rocks 15ft tall and u stand 4 ft from it. Now lets say it collapses. Do you really think that none of those rocks are going to smack you in the face? Didnt think so. Also just because someone "says" something doesnt mean its true. Im sure you dont just take things as true whenever someone says them... right?
ihavevideoatoo 1 month ago
@skydragon4ever you're the kind of fucks that penn and teller hate. Are you fucking serious? Did you not see two fucking planes go into a fucking building? Or was that all CGI?
PeopleR2sensitive 1 month ago
A couple of summer ago, I went to NY City, and the hole was still a hole... the same building must be re-build... presto!!
APH0risma 1 year ago 17
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RPtwinz 1 year ago 8
@RPtwinz shut it
jojolw234 10 months ago
@jojolw234 Lmfao, it was joke because they were so serious in the video that I was in such a great mood that I felt like sharing my stupidity on the internet. Don't be mad bro.
RPtwinz 10 months ago
@RPtwinz well
im not
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whatev that mean
jojolw234 10 months ago
@RPtwinz hahaha your right! :D
Rollie20000226 8 months ago
@QuantumQuacks
So, you're saying that freedom is fine as long as you make sure to submit to threats?
Wh-... I don't even know where to start...
You-ehhh... You do that, good luck with that, yeah... And, to use your logic to make the world a better place:
Don't get involved in politics, if you do: I'll be offended, and according to the dumb scripture I just made up; it also requires me to burn down your house and dress up any pets you have as burlesque dancers.
There, Allah Shalom.
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
Hell YEAH!, thats what should be done!
Likeaperv 1 year ago
"doing what the fuck we want" is the reason u got attacked in the first place interfering with arabic countries affairs
TheOrionStar 1 year ago
This would be true if the mosque was actually on ground zero and not 3 blocks away. This whole mosque non-issue really goes to show how frighteningly unforgiving Americans can be. They're so mad that they'll take away peoples freedoms to do what they want with their money so they can get some kind of half-ass revenge on people who didn't even do anything to them. Fuck America.
WithSomeSpareTime 1 year ago
@WithSomeSpareTime
Actually, a mosque is a religious establishment. All religious establishments are anti-American.
At least, if you take the time to read the constitution. It's actually the very first sentence.
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
@TheFacelessActivist The first part of the constitution talks about different branches of government and the rest of it is basically how America should be run. There is nothing about religious centers being, "Anti American."
Were your parents brother and sister?
WithSomeSpareTime 1 year ago
@WithSomeSpareTime
Read the amendments. First sentence reads "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. " That means: Feel free to believe in god, just don't bother the rest of the world with it."
Were your parents illiterate morons?
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
@TheFacelessActivist When you want me to read the amendments, don't tell me to read the first sentence of the constitution. Since when is building a religious center making a law? It's anti-American to make a law in favor of one religion; it's not anti-American to build a religious center with your own money (or even with the governments money). If it was, there would be a large absence of Christian churches in America.
Were your parents clumsy when near the top of a flight of stairs?
WithSomeSpareTime 1 year ago
@WithSomeSpareTime @TheFacelessActivist lets not bring each other parents into this, They arn't here to defend themselves......
MrSoprano0125 1 year ago
@MrSoprano0125
He started it, I mean, gee, one of my parents are dead and the other is insane after her husband died. Why would I wanna be reminded of that?
...Religious people always know how to hit where it hurts...
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
@TheFacelessActivist I'm telling BOTH of you and you childishly say 'He started it'....*sigh*
MrSoprano0125 1 year ago
@MrSoprano0125
So? Be realistic, the person who starts it started it, and is therefore responsible. I always got blamed in school whenever I started something, and this time it's not even due to racism...
...My nemesis was a sly bastard, they never blame the colored kid...
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
@WithSomeSpareTime
You still don't get it. All established religion is frowned upon by the American idealism due to their fascist manifestations. George Washington said so himself. But I'm sorry for not narrowing it down before, I thought you weren't an idiot. I won't make that mistake twice.
Any real American aware of the concept of liberty will know that religion is meant to be a personal thing, held within the private confinements of one's thought, any "centers" is un-American, simple.
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
@TheFacelessActivist
1. The Amendments and the constitution are two different things.
2. Not all establishments are frowned upon, all government favored religious establishments are. There's a big difference.
3. Building a building that is not mandatory to go to, is still a personal choice. You fucking retard.
4. Sorry about your parents, I just thought it was funny to say.
5. I'm an atheist.
WithSomeSpareTime 1 year ago
@WithSomeSpareTime
1. Not two different things, just the same thing, but different. Geez...
2. Not true, by original American concepts, it's all frowned upon. It's just that the US was hijacked by Christians a long time ago. Not in a conspiracy-kind of way, just in a more conspiracy-kind of way.
3. Sure, but no supporter of American ideologies will be fore it. It's not like I'd forbid it. I'd just find it evil.
4. Yeah, well, thanks for ruining my day.
5. Pfft, certainly not a good one...
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
@TheFacelessActivist A secularized religious center is still something made by choice, and it is not favored or frowned upon by America (Especially in this case with Muslims). I think you're taking the whole "Freedom of religion," a bit too far by saying the founding fathers were against all churches. And yes, I agree anyone who says America is a Christian nation needs to be shot.
Why am I not a good atheist? Is it because I believe in freedom of religion?
WithSomeSpareTime 1 year ago
@WithSomeSpareTime
The freedom of religion is personal faith and spiritualism. Churches and mosques are houses of preaching and oppression. The Islamic faith is a plague, just like Christianity. It's represented by narrow-minded pricks. You will never understand this since like 90% of all Americans, you bought in to the "Muslims are nice"-propaganda. But read some fucking history. Muslims, Christians, Jews... They're all out for religious authority. The very same mentioned by the constitution.
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
@TheFacelessActivist What you don't understand is I'm not saying Muslims are nice. Neither am I saying they are fucking bubonic plague carrying monsters. I am simply saying they deserve to do what they want with their own money as long as it doesn't interfere with government law making. Don't make bad religious people in the past an accountability for those today, can you imagine if I said all modern Egyptian people don't deserve to build museums simply because their ancestors had slaves?
WithSomeSpareTime 1 year ago
@WithSomeSpareTime
Recently a law was passed saying that vandalism towards religious artifacts would bring a more severe penalty. Also any violent crime against a muslim is considered a "hatecrime". Yet, tons of jews are moving to avoid violent crimes caused by jew-hating muslims. Muslims gain tons and tons of "legal amnesty" due to their manipulative establishment.
It's not easy to just stand by as these people get away with bigotry and poverty. So it does interfere with legislation.
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
@TheFacelessActivist I think we can both agree with that to an extent. But I'm not about to strip their freedoms from them, neither am I giving them any special laws. Getting down to the basic argument though, building religious establishments in America is not anti-American. Even if it's wrong, it's not anti-American.
WithSomeSpareTime 1 year ago
@WithSomeSpareTime
It is if you use it to give your religion special treatment. I mean, why else would they build it only a few blocks away? It's provoking. That way they offend people, and then they can call the people who get offended "Racists and inslamophobes", and they get some more money and civil rights in their little sympathy bank.
I don't mind all muslims, got tons of friends who are. But they never go to a mosque. Just like most Christians don't go to church.
TheFacelessActivist 1 year ago
they shud put up two towers BIGGER than they were before!!!
ykrahs666 1 year ago
the towers weren't $ viable.
thedayitriedtodie 1 year ago
Are Penn and Teller being willfully ignorant of the reams of evidence providing a solid case asserting that all three towers were blown up with nanothermite?
Beesnchickens 1 year ago
@Beesnchickens That seems to be the case. They will never put the twin towers back up because it wouldnt make sense. Just as with most demolitions: they are taken down in order to make room for something new and better. People that cry for the twin towers to be rebuilt in a show of indignation are two things: Patriotic and uninformed. The United States government is neither.
Vonwales 1 year ago
@Vonwales FUCK THE FREEDOM TOWER! It is a pile of piece of SHIT that should not be built at ground zero. FUCK YOU TOO IF YOU SUPPORT THE FREEDOM TOWER!
azar7834 1 year ago
@Beesnchickens
1) The nanothermite theory has been debunked countless times.
2) Every single "Truther" conspiracy theory has been debunked countless times.
3) Making claims like this only insults the memory of those who died that day. On 9/11, religious fucknuts attacked our country and killed a lot of innocent people. That's the truth. If the US governmet was responsible for 9/11, I'm certain I'd be hearing about it from more than fringe lunatics like you. Fuck you, you insensitive asshole!
fly666monkey 1 year ago
I hope more buildings get destroyed, like the empire state building. It's ugly & i hate it. Team Terrorist ftw!
vanagumsabagum 1 year ago