basicly there just trying to introduce canadian esqe gun laws. you can still have them just with some restrictions. hey be thankfull they dont care what kind of gun you have. up here its 5 years if your caut with a semi auto with a 10 round clip. not to mention automatics or short barrles. get off your horse and acsept there trying to know who has what
So according to your opening, this fictitious bill "will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all the guns that you have or own"? Why would I have to list on my 1040 all of the guns you have or own? Might want to edit your "sky is falling" sign before you make right-wingers look uneducated. Oh wait...too late.
This is NOT true. It is rediculous that people have to resort to this kind of crap. Somebody hears a rumor and builds on it then spreads it around. But the thing that bothers me most is the "right-wingers" and "left wingers" bull. It is time to stop blaming an entire group of people for the actions of one or two. We seem to have arrived at a point where if you are a Democrat, you must automatically hate Republicans and anything they say is wrong, & vice versa. People, that's just plain STUPID.
Bullshit. There is no law in the process to take away your guns. Funny how right wingers want everybody to have a gun but would let you bleed to death for lack of health insurance when one of the idiots shoots you.
My father was killed with his own gun. He was a former Marine and knew how to handle it, but shouldn't have been carrying it around with him.
its your constitutional right to feel that way and speak your opinion...its also our constitutional right to bare arms....I havent heard anything more about this law, I just post anything I hear or see.
BTW I am in no way a "right winger" I dont consider myself a part of any direction or party, its all the same bullshit either way. I am an American and that is the only label I will claim!
Why don't you do your research and check out HR45. If the fool succeeds, it will be almost impossible to own a gun & if you would research communist nations you would find it is a precursor to taking away guns completely. PLEASE, grow some intelligence if you can. You can do that by education and research. Using foul language only shows us that you aren't intelligent because any fool can have use foul language, it takes intelligence for the alternative.
Really? Well since it will be mandatory to have said insurance and failure to purchase said insurance would put you in violation of federal law, you would then be guilty of commiting a felony...
Explain to me where the mere desire to have a law passed to personally benefit an individual at anothers expense is ethical? How is it a law that is in direct violation to Amendment 10 of the U.S. Constitution can even be passed without making those that pass it a felon themselves?
So its nice of you to spread propaganda and fear. This bill was never introduced in 2009, it was squashed clear back in September 2000. A simple internet search will provide with the correct facts.
None of that seems like gun safety...more like government control. How did we make airliners safer? We gave pilots guns. It worked. Taking them from the populous does not make them safer. It makes them weaker. If they required you shoot your gun at a range and take a class, THAT'd be better than just disarming good people. But control, NOT safety is the reasoning. Unless I'm missing something here.
You are. Even if this Amendment were being introduced now, it would only tighten the regulations on owning guns, thus making the populous safer by making only mentally and physically capable adults able to ha ve one in their possession. Thus the point would be disarming idiots, not 'good people'. And what's with the complaining about children not having guns? Maybe I don't get it; I'm not even American after all, but surely a child with a gun is a really bad idea?
No...no...i guess I'm not missing anything. It sounds like you are reiterating the fear propaganda people apply to guns in general. Children can't buy guns. I don't know if you've ever been to America, but that's the case. Besides, who's to determine what "mentally and physically capable adults" are? Congress? a Politician? a LAWYER? a TYRANT? please. you're treading on our constitution and I don't like it.
I am aware that children cannot buy guns, that would be stupid. Generally, in the UK anyway, mental and physical capability for something would be determined by a doctor, or by the conditions set by the respective governing body. No tyrants are required. Perhaps I am 'treading on [your] constitution', but in my opinion anything which makes weapons in the hands of untrained civilians rarer, or otherwise less dangerous, is a good thing. See IreneH55's comment. He was trained.
If a bureaucratic "doctor" deems you unfit in his opinion to own a firearm, you should not be allowed to. And you are not to govern yourself, of course. Your Constitution doesn't matter to me, and I think you'd all be safer if there were more rules in the world.
Thanks but I already expressed my opinion, and you were wrong on all but one point. I didn't specify a doctor, the purpose of your Congress and President is to govern you, so you do not already govern yourselves, and rules, in general, do promote safety, although they do reduce your precious American freedom. The only time you were right was when you said your constitution doesn't matter to me. It doesn't. Why should it? I'm not American.
As a foreigner, you have no place commenting on American Government. As you said, you're not an American, you don't care about our our Constitution - and therefore have no understanding of how we are to be governed.
The Congress is in place to represent the will of the people. The President is our Commander and Chief of the military. He has legislative power, but that is not the primary purpose behind establishing the Executive Branch.
And our freedom is precious enough to fie for. Got it?
This is the last thing I'm going to say, because I don't like the unnecessarily aggressive way you people argue. As far as I am aware, your Congress is in place to pass or reject legislation, thus they govern you.
As a citizen of a country where gun control is very strict, and gun-related crime very low, I am against looser legislation. Perhaps if you thought with your mind, not a flag, you would understand why. And your freedom? Columbine wasn't about freedom.
basicly there just trying to introduce canadian esqe gun laws. you can still have them just with some restrictions. hey be thankfull they dont care what kind of gun you have. up here its 5 years if your caut with a semi auto with a 10 round clip. not to mention automatics or short barrles. get off your horse and acsept there trying to know who has what
blanbproductionshd 1 year ago
So according to your opening, this fictitious bill "will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all the guns that you have or own"? Why would I have to list on my 1040 all of the guns you have or own? Might want to edit your "sky is falling" sign before you make right-wingers look uneducated. Oh wait...too late.
KummerRoth 1 year ago
we should all have the right the bear arms.
Not just those in power , so they can stay in power.
hey....Americans, resist big brother's attempts! (from Canada)
TheHickupp 2 years ago
This is NOT true. It is rediculous that people have to resort to this kind of crap. Somebody hears a rumor and builds on it then spreads it around. But the thing that bothers me most is the "right-wingers" and "left wingers" bull. It is time to stop blaming an entire group of people for the actions of one or two. We seem to have arrived at a point where if you are a Democrat, you must automatically hate Republicans and anything they say is wrong, & vice versa. People, that's just plain STUPID.
roverbey 2 years ago
Bullshit. There is no law in the process to take away your guns. Funny how right wingers want everybody to have a gun but would let you bleed to death for lack of health insurance when one of the idiots shoots you.
My father was killed with his own gun. He was a former Marine and knew how to handle it, but shouldn't have been carrying it around with him.
IreneH55 2 years ago
its your constitutional right to feel that way and speak your opinion...its also our constitutional right to bare arms....I havent heard anything more about this law, I just post anything I hear or see.
BTW I am in no way a "right winger" I dont consider myself a part of any direction or party, its all the same bullshit either way. I am an American and that is the only label I will claim!
NFormD 2 years ago
@NFormD
Ahahaha bare arms. If only that's what it said.
youalldisgustme 2 years ago
Why don't you do your research and check out HR45. If the fool succeeds, it will be almost impossible to own a gun & if you would research communist nations you would find it is a precursor to taking away guns completely. PLEASE, grow some intelligence if you can. You can do that by education and research. Using foul language only shows us that you aren't intelligent because any fool can have use foul language, it takes intelligence for the alternative.
Savedbytheblood100 2 years ago
Really? Well since it will be mandatory to have said insurance and failure to purchase said insurance would put you in violation of federal law, you would then be guilty of commiting a felony...
Explain to me where the mere desire to have a law passed to personally benefit an individual at anothers expense is ethical? How is it a law that is in direct violation to Amendment 10 of the U.S. Constitution can even be passed without making those that pass it a felon themselves?
hrwulf 2 years ago
So its nice of you to spread propaganda and fear. This bill was never introduced in 2009, it was squashed clear back in September 2000. A simple internet search will provide with the correct facts.
bmxpunk2 2 years ago 3
Oh..you mean like the propaganda and fear the government spreads? like the
H1N1 bullshit
NFormD 2 years ago
Will definitely agree with you on that one. And I do agree with you above on the second amendendment.
bmxpunk2 2 years ago 2
Hate to tell you, but this is a hoax. There was a bill SB-2099 back in 2000, but it never went anywhere.
SnellvilleChristian 2 years ago 2
None of that seems like gun safety...more like government control. How did we make airliners safer? We gave pilots guns. It worked. Taking them from the populous does not make them safer. It makes them weaker. If they required you shoot your gun at a range and take a class, THAT'd be better than just disarming good people. But control, NOT safety is the reasoning. Unless I'm missing something here.
dizzyboiler 2 years ago
@dizzyboiler
You are. Even if this Amendment were being introduced now, it would only tighten the regulations on owning guns, thus making the populous safer by making only mentally and physically capable adults able to ha ve one in their possession. Thus the point would be disarming idiots, not 'good people'. And what's with the complaining about children not having guns? Maybe I don't get it; I'm not even American after all, but surely a child with a gun is a really bad idea?
youalldisgustme 2 years ago
No...no...i guess I'm not missing anything. It sounds like you are reiterating the fear propaganda people apply to guns in general. Children can't buy guns. I don't know if you've ever been to America, but that's the case. Besides, who's to determine what "mentally and physically capable adults" are? Congress? a Politician? a LAWYER? a TYRANT? please. you're treading on our constitution and I don't like it.
dizzyboiler 2 years ago
@dizzyboiler
I am aware that children cannot buy guns, that would be stupid. Generally, in the UK anyway, mental and physical capability for something would be determined by a doctor, or by the conditions set by the respective governing body. No tyrants are required. Perhaps I am 'treading on [your] constitution', but in my opinion anything which makes weapons in the hands of untrained civilians rarer, or otherwise less dangerous, is a good thing. See IreneH55's comment. He was trained.
youalldisgustme 2 years ago
@youalldisgustme
Let me rephrase this for you:
If a bureaucratic "doctor" deems you unfit in his opinion to own a firearm, you should not be allowed to. And you are not to govern yourself, of course. Your Constitution doesn't matter to me, and I think you'd all be safer if there were more rules in the world.
Hold on, why am I even talking to you? lol
TheCrystalRiver 2 years ago
@TheCrystalRiver
Thanks but I already expressed my opinion, and you were wrong on all but one point. I didn't specify a doctor, the purpose of your Congress and President is to govern you, so you do not already govern yourselves, and rules, in general, do promote safety, although they do reduce your precious American freedom. The only time you were right was when you said your constitution doesn't matter to me. It doesn't. Why should it? I'm not American.
youalldisgustme 2 years ago
As a foreigner, you have no place commenting on American Government. As you said, you're not an American, you don't care about our our Constitution - and therefore have no understanding of how we are to be governed.
The Congress is in place to represent the will of the people. The President is our Commander and Chief of the military. He has legislative power, but that is not the primary purpose behind establishing the Executive Branch.
And our freedom is precious enough to fie for. Got it?
TheCrystalRiver 2 years ago
@TheCrystalRiver
This is the last thing I'm going to say, because I don't like the unnecessarily aggressive way you people argue. As far as I am aware, your Congress is in place to pass or reject legislation, thus they govern you.
As a citizen of a country where gun control is very strict, and gun-related crime very low, I am against looser legislation. Perhaps if you thought with your mind, not a flag, you would understand why. And your freedom? Columbine wasn't about freedom.
youalldisgustme 2 years ago
Again - we govern our legislators.
When myself and others call our Congressman and tell them we don't support something - they listen.
And maybe gun related crime is very low, but when guns were banned in the Britain crime spiked - home invasions, burglaries, etc.
Criminals will always have guns, whether or not a law is passed against them.
I hardly think of a flag. I'm thinking in terms of freedom versus tyranny.
And you're right. Columbine was not about freedom. It was about murder
TheCrystalRiver 2 years ago