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  • Do wonder how many notes he hit in that 1.03 mins ? xx

  • and to think he thought he was a better artist than a guitarist - don't see anything in the Tate yet John.....

  • And As said, better than jonny greenwood (me?)

  • 'the best guitarist of his generation'. ahem maybe not. This is a cross between 60s blues and 80s thrash shredding. This IS NOT creative guitar playing, its more like cocaine fuelled arrogance. Sure, hes technically gifted, but which stays in our mind, this or waterfall which uses 100000 less notes per second? Ill leave it for YOU to decide!

  • @thestrid82 This was like a little joky "look I can also play like this if you dont mind"

    It's skill but he's proven his creativity before in late 80s with roses

  • @jonnytheoasisfan Not so sure it WAS a joke. I think that he probably split from The Roses and maybe thought he was superb, like some kind of Jimmy Page. My point is, that HE LEFT the creativity of the 80s behind, and regressed to earlier forms of music, which, whilst not bad in themselves, were no longer relevant in popular culture. He had become a bore, or a guitarists guitarist, if that makes sense?

  • @jonnytheoasisfan it was a steady transition towards the guitar shredding noodle self-indulgence to say 'hey look at me, aren't I good' One Love, Driving South, in fact the entire second roses album, which whilst technically impressive and displaying virtuoso musicianship, was just irrelevant and full or ego-led guitar worship. Love Is The Law was the last of all that, and look where Squires solo career went. Look at the rythm chips in foolds gold+waterfall, maybe two three or four notes

  • @thestrid82 Dont get me wrong, I can listen to this for pleasure, but as for 'best guitarist' of his generation - no. He was sounding far too much like Jimmy Page at this point including his choice of guitars and every guitarist would tell you the same. If he was painting Jackson Pollock paintings by playing Fools Gold and Waterfall, he ended up painting traditional portraits in this. instantly likeable for sheer technical power and mastery, but once the novelty has worn off, vacuous and dull

  • @thestrid82 Driving South is actually pretty simple and fairly short. Breaking into Heaven, the awful Tightrope, and Good Times are the wanky nadir. Half of Second Coming is good, a lot is utterly awful, and Begging You quite possibly the best thing they ever did. The way the loops are manipulated on that is fantastic. Jonny Greenwood is good but I wish he'd leave the Max/MSP shit alone for that is just as wanky as rehashed blues soloing.

  • @HeartfeltDawn Breaking Heaven and wanky nadir are two phrases I wouldn't put together.

  • @ibbotsoni Once you get past the tribal rhythms, the song musically and lyrically isn't much cop and it's a very uninspired vocal performance.

  • better than Johny Greenwood

  • @MrFeelgood95 The first album for me is more my type of playing, but overall Johnny greenwood has been consistently more experimental and creative. Nobody ever mentions Nick McCabe from The Verve. Who exactly.

  • Sensational

  • Many people forget exactly how talented a guitarist he is. He often makes the "top guitarist ever" type lists. The Roses are a cut above many of the bands of their day in that respect. Reni is a genius drummer for example. Mani and Brown... um, not so great in their fields, but the band are a sum of their parts and together they're just damn beautiful.

  • @GhibliFan1 Mani is a brilliant bass player and has only got better since the split of the roses... and as for Ian Brown? Yeah he aint got a typical - X factor like voice but who the fuck wants that? He's inspired so many before him with his swagger and his voice is raw and mancunian, cant wait for Heaton Park

  • Don't know if he's "shredding" dude. He just did a generic scale.

  • This man could have made a £billion with The Roses

  • johnny marr and john squire are the best. if i realy had to pick between them johnny marr would win it probly. imagine them botyh in the same band lol

  • this doesn't make me feel anything. not in the same league as the bluesy riffs he played with the roses.

  • technically awesome and I can remember being blown away when i saw this at around 14-16 on Jools Holland. But the playing on the original albums is far more restrained, exciting and inventive. he could really be any blues player from the past 60 years on this as i look back now.

  • Well, that was Jimmy Page you just heard ladies and gentlemen.

  • @MrJeppelin Correct, and I'm sure he'd acknowledge that. What makes them both great guitarists are the songs they wrote.

  • And that's how you do it, kids!

  • This is surely funny, but one of his worst solos ;DD

  • John claims he doesn't want anything to do with music, he's just recently met with Ian Brown and Mani's mum's funeral. although the rumors of the roses getting back together are false maybe John will start talking with Ian again. I'd love to see the roses back together, but I just wanna see john get into music. he's an absolute genius who made one of the best albums of all time.

  • any guitar players could do that

  • this is so... i dont even know how to explain it!!! jeez

  • Problem is, there are plenty of guitarists in the world who play this style, and plenty better at it(shredders are everywhere), but there are no other guitarists who sound like he did on their debut album. He had a signature, unique style, and that is a huge thing, a rare thing, and it was awesome. Too bad he bought into the whole "faster is better" mentality, and too bad he became obsessed with sounding like other people(Page most obviously, of course).

  • Fuck me, John should just shoot himself NOW! To go from the Stone Roses to this "Barbizon School of Rock Management" total garbarge is unthinkable! What the fuck was this piece of shit thinking?!!! FUCK! Reni was the real talent in the Roses followed by Ian's cool and Mani's party. John just became a twat. Don't watch his "visual artist" interview if you don't want to hang yourself. The guy has become a real piece of shit! Breaking up the Roses, serves him right!!!

  • he''ll never outshine what he wrote when he was in the stone roses,pure genius. but I still don't like him as a person! :)

  • @me19276 I've heard stories. Gimme some leads so I can look into it? He's an incredible guitarist, though.

  • Nothing wrong with playing fast...but you do have to make sure your technique is good enough if you are going to have a go or it can sound pretty awful..this video being a good example of that, I think i'll stick with Andy James for british guitar prodigys for now...

  • He is known for using alot of effects, pedals ect... Even still, he has wrote some cracking riffs. Wouldn't say he was one of the best guitarists though...can think of a few better ones to be honest.

  • Jesus Christ. That was fucking intense!!!!!!!! Like a machine gun!!!!

  • Sloppy and crap. I've seen kids who've been playing a year do these same kind of basic pentatonic licks better.

  • @axisundone who gives a shit if it's sloppy? the point is that it sounds good and strings together well. there's no point in a flawless shred if it doesn't sound any good, mate

  • @axisundone Sloppy or not John Squire is one of the most naturally gifted guitarists of the last twenty years, the Roses first album is still one of my all time favourites.

  • John Squire is one hell of a guitarist.

  • In case you didn't know, "The Seahorses" is an anagram of "He Hates Roses" :)

  • @wesmatron Is that a coincidence?

  • @stefk123 I don't think so...I couldn't swear on it but I think the matter was discussed by Mark and Lard one night on Radio 1. I wish I could ask him, John Squire was a huge inspiration for me.

  • @wesmatron Im a green triangle man myself!

  • wonder if John Squire plays a fender squier?

  • john squire better than johnny marr

  • not surprised several people have mentioned Second Coming. Daybreak and Begging You are some of the best guitar solos and playing they ever did. People bitched at the time making Led zepplin references-when people seem to forget zepplin could play REALLY well. both roses albums are very different but I like both. the seahorses was a real let down.

  • As much as I love Coxon (and I do), John will always be the best British rock/pop guitarist to me. He has a quality to his playing that is so amazing.

  • wish he still played with the seahorses

  • What a waste!

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  • He's good but he's no Yngwie Malmsteen

  • @CrosbyStillsNashYoun yeah he's not a fag

  • @CrosbyStillsNashYoun

    mulmsteen is shit

  • Close........

  • john squire finished off the roses by making second coming his led zep tribute album , the last gang in town became tory boys side project ANY ROSES REUNION NEEDS AN APOLOGY FROM MR SQUIRE TO THE OTHER MEMBERS.

  • From this generation, John is second only to Johnny Marr in my opinion

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  • fuckin love squire's stuff its unreal

  • looks like cressa on drums... he was like the roses bez type dude...

  • john is god

  • Embarrassing shit. Squire is so much better than this. Shredding is for pubescent teenagers who can't get laid. It's effectively wanking on a guitar. And this is wank.

  • @rabbitisrich I take it your shite on guitar?

  • @coltsuperocean10 I'm pretty good actually mate. And I can tell the difference between genuinely good guitar playing - i.e Waterfall, Love is the Law, I am the Resurrection - and 'look at how fast I can move my fingers across the fretboard kids'. What does this showboating nonsense actually add to the song? Nothing, it's just embarrassing posturing. Squire was going through a deeply dodgy phase here.

  • @rabbitisrich Too right, man. There's a very thin line for those with amazing techniques when it can from stellar playing to tedious toss. Driving South has a fantastic riff and is one of my favourite Roses songs but this is masturbatory excess. The song comes a distant second to the showboating.

  • @rabbitisrich I wouldn't say Mr. Rhandy Rhoads was a pubescent teenager, neither Van Halen, Buck Dharma, etc. But you've gotta a point there...shredding isn't by far a good way of showing virtuosity on a guitar, everyone that has ever listened to Hendrix, Gilmour and Krieger knows that...

  • @rabbitisrich Truth. Preach it, brah. I had to pause at :21 because I was sickened. I still love him though.

  • There is a YouTube video of John playing the Fuji Rock Festival in 2005. He sings Fools Gold. It's not 2 bad...

  • iv always liked the stone roses but av never been a massive fan! but i did not have a clue Squire cud play like that! cud anyone tell if hes done much solo stuff like that before? released any albums on his own?

  • He put out one solo album, it was average.

    Second Coming is his Led Zeppelin tribute record. Its awesome. There is a live EP from an Irish show called "Crimson Tonight" which you should check out. Its Squire playing live, and its mind blowing. I'm sure its on Youtube.

  • He actually put out two solo albums, "Time Changes Everything" and "Marshall's House", and a live EP, also called "Time Changes Everything" that featured an extended outro guitar solo on the title track. However, these albums aren't really guitar-centric, the emphasis is more on songwriting. Nayson is right, "Crimson Tonight" is a better example of Squire's live guitar playing, particularly on the song Daybreak.

  • @padraic2001eire Squires solo stuff wasn't the best.... :Probably coz he sang on it but his best exampleof what he can do is on the Second Coming. The 2 roses albums were totally different and it sounded like Squire went into hiding and listened to alot of Led Zeppelin. Not that I didn't like either of them. They were both amazing in their own way.

    If I'm wrong then please shoot me down. No stone roses pun intended.

  • @markt1982 Ye I agree I think his best moment in the Stone Roses is on 'Driving South'. Unbelievable soloing on there

  • @padraic2001eire they werent particularly any good were they! His voice is a little bit shaky

  • @kav04071303 listen to the roses 2nd album, one of the best guitar albums ever

  • @kav04071303 are you kidding? Squire is one of the treus greats of the axe!!

  • @kav04071303 you wanna listen to the second coming if you wanna hear squire at his peak. the solos on good times, breaking into heaven and tears are simply amazing!!! i didnt like his solo stuff and wasnt mad on seahorses

  • iv always liked the stone roses but av never been a massive fan! but i did not have a clue Squire cud play like that! cud anyone tell if hes done much solo stuff like that before? released any albums on his own?

  • i love john squires work on the roses debut....but this is just showing off on his guitar it doesnt make for good music at all!

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  • All the people who think this is amazing need to listen to squires work with the roses. All he he doing is playing really fast which can be good when done well and not overused. But its all about feeling when it comes to guitar. Jendrix Didn't play fast that much but he still managed to be one of the best guitarists ever. Same Goes for Wes Montgomery. Squires a brilliant guitarist but this just Dosn't touch some of his other stuff.

  • I'd see your point if this was 10 minutes long, but it's a minute - you don't think that's overusing it, do you?

  • @CoeMichael123 true. he had his own style and feeling on the stone roses' debut and on some of the tracks from second coming.

  • @CoeMichael123 Spot on, man. The playing here is fast, but he's having much more fun than anyone in the audience. I rather hear the 5-note Waterfall riff twenty times in a row than listen to this more than a handful of times.

  • @IDrinkYourMilkshake8 I completely agree, with the Roses you felt like you were part of the performance, if that makes sense.

  • @CoeMichael123 That's exactly how I feel about the guitar. Genuine soulful expression trumps speed and technical brilliance for me any day of the week.

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  • All about opinions guys, try not to argue on the computer though. Its the saddest thing ever.

    IMO best live band at the moment is MGMT. Of all time, Stone Roses.

    As far as Squire goes, never been a more talented individual in music. You can have your John Lennon, Elvis Preseley, Michael Jackson, Freddie Mercury etc.

    No-one else, writes their own, sings their own, plays their own, even does their own fucking album cover.

    Squire = 1 man band.

  • @ed1ss

    squire wasn't as talented as marr in terms of guitar playing

  • jajaja god... what a pile of shit. MGMT sucks and Squire it's just a good guitarplayer, period.

  • actually mercury and lennon could have done that lol. good a guitar player and writer as squire was, he wasnt as unique or influential as johnny marr. that man created his own stlyle!

  • Steven Wilson... Only he isn't a guitar virtuoso, but he's still good.

  • lol name drop some good and interesting shit next time youre thinking of ranting and if you dont know owt good then dont bother.

  • The mans a complete God..A National Treasure..I wish I could meet him and ask if he would give my son whos learning to play guitar 10 minutes of his time..Ps When will we ever here John play again????

  • @tstoakley the answer would be no.

  • awesome... don't care anyone else say, just plain and simply awesome!!

  • sounds like page! bah :P

  • Sorry but this fretboard wankery did nothing for me..I've heard it a million times.

    Johnny Marr, James Honeyman-scott & Will Sergeant all had a unique sound

  • I think Squire did this guitar solo to prove a point. "I don't really like all this shreddy stuff, but if I did...".

  • Oh that is some tasty guitar playing. Love it, come back to music please, I'd buy your cds, but I'm not gonna buy your latest sculpture I'm afraid...

  • GOD LIKE

  • what ever happened between him and Ian is a shame,but Squire is 1 talented guy,...even when he went all Jimmy Page,....!!!

  • Well actually a friend told me who is usually reputable but I just looked it up and apparently it's an urban legend. So oops. Sitting in Sligo IT right now BTW!

  • I CAN play the guitar with my nose lol ...

    It's a joke ...

  • Great guitarist ,talented individual ,but wtf ! (delongebarker) Who is the greatest guitarist in the last 40 years? It's Hendrix you fuckstick Jeff Beck would agree and he's #2! What a dumbass

  • When Hendrix was asked "What's it like being the greatest guitarist in the world" he replied "Why don't you ask Rory Gallagher". Point is there is no best guitarist anywhere. And even guitarists think other guitarists are better.

  • John Squire = BRILLIANT MUSICIAN!

  • fuck me john , put down that paint brush and pick the guitar back up

  • @shadowpuppet89

    too bloody right, Squire giving up guitar, it's like Michaelangelo giving up painting for driving a van. John please a) start playing again and b) reform the Roses, who piss from a great height on all modern guitar bands

  • They're not his generation.

  • For a bit of fun If we are talking pure ability the best with out doubt francis dunnery .they are the same age .I am a technical player and a bit of a clever trousers on occasion but some of the old it bites lead still has me scratching my head.you realise im not bothered its mostly about what you like. but I thought what the hell .

  • IRON MAIDEN are a fuckin joke though arnt they? HA!! IRON MAIDEN are just SPINAL TAP. The onlh difference is that IRON MAIDEN just dont realise how much of a joke they are. HA IRON MAIDEN HAA "bring ur daughter to the slaughter" HA HA HA LMFAO. You shouldn't insulg John Squire by mentioning iron maiden in the same breath as him.

  • play some jingle jangle you coked up idiot

  • Prolly the most talented person in the Universe. Sort out a Roses re-union tour though.

  • Squire is a god in my eyes

  • I've heard rumors he's going to Oasis - does anyone know anything about it?

  • Ha, that'd be kinda cool, I doubt it's true though. I actually don't think we've seen the last of Noel Gallagher in Oasis, I'd say he'll be back. Squire has played with Oasis before, youtube Champagne Supernova and I Am The Walrus Knebworth if you haven't seen them before!

  • i hope we have seen the last of noel with oasis ,he'd be much better off going solo minus the baggage of a singer who cant sing anymore.

  • Squier has hung up his guitar for good...and Gallagher WILL b back with Oasis, no doubt about it, even his own mother said, he will get back with them and im pretty sure she wud know better than ne1

  • That would be cool. I'd probably go and watch them if that happened. But doubt it will

  • Squire was one of the greats. Wish he hadn't hung up his guitar, be he said the painting is

    what he's into now.

  • oh jonny boy,u play that thing like ringin a bell,...so fk cool

  • Fuckin quality sound its a big loss hes not playing anymore! love this vid cheers

  • If u ask me id say he was dying to let his wild guitar side out like dat but never got a chance with d roses... But still i dont think he was ever better than he was in the stone roses..

  • Yeah i agree. I don't think he had a chance to really unleash his inner beast. While the Stone Roses sounded amazing - their sound was very acidy and more gentle. Squire is actually a very flexible guitar player because lots of guitarists can't play both ends of the spectrum like he can. He's a master of both the shred and the more tuneful, dance influenced Madchester beat style guitar

  • hello

  • wow he is jimmy page!!!

  • johnny marr just edges him out but squire is shit hot.

  • no way. Squre is much better!

  • How did Kurt Cobain come up on a video of john squire. The two are not comparable, and as for John Squire not being Jimmy Page good point... no one is, but he is without doubt the tastiest guitarist since the ninties. Not faster but much better than the metal guitarists

  • and here's me desperately trying to play an f chord. woe is me woe is me

  • Cheat on the F, and keep trying to get it right over time. :)

  • @spinalCJ What you have to remember is that at one time John Squire HIMSELF would have struggled to play a F-Chord and a G and a C. Everybody has to start somewhere even the greats.

  • jimmy page

  • John Squire is a good guitarist but he is nothing special.His early work was better in my opinion where he actually played only what the song needed.I think he spent way too much time trying to get away from his Madchester rooted music to gear towards Led Zeplin Jimmy Page esk music.You only have to listen to tears of second coming which i do really like ,but think it is a big time rip off of stairway.I dont think John Squire was ever happy with his sound on the early recordings of the roses.

  • @mc28x

    Dude, come on. So what if it borrowed from stirway. You're talking about jimmy page who heavily borrowed music from folk and blues guys who weren't famous. Dazed and Confused and black mountain side are all rip offs if that's the case, and I think Page is awesome, probably my favourite

  • Dazed and Confused was written when he was in the Yardbirds so it wasnt a rip off, though whole lotta love, when the levee breaks, nobodys fault but mine etc were all plagerisms

  • i gotta admit its quite poor i hate that power ranger shit

    but give him a break yous can thumb down all you want but i think hes without a doubt the best guitarist in his generation of music

  • Squire get your Country Gentleman back and play some jingle jangle...

  • John Squire is just a piss poor Jimmy Page wannabee. Hes average, and ten a penny as a guitar player, there is loads better!! He was great in the Roses, but after that it all went down hill. Shame.

  • John Squire was a great guitar player.

    Piss poor Jimmy Page wannabe? No.

    John Squire was a contemporary of Johnny Marr. He's closer to him than Jimmy Page.

  • Is he dead or retired?

  • He's an artist now. After his band "The Seahorses" disbanded, he decided to fully commit to painting. As he painted nearly all of The Stone Roses artwork for covers etc.  Hope that helped.

  • Yes, I appreciate it.

  • are u serious?

  • You have to be joking? Kurt Cobain was never a good guitar player. Just really basic stuff

  • Kurt Cobain was a poor guitarist.

  • Thought the drumming was more outstanding. Shredders like that are Ten a penny.

  • i never realized how good john squire was, yes hes up there with some of the best guitarists

  • marr > squire.

    the greatest guitarists in the last 40 years

  • John Squire is the most technically gifted guitarist from these shores in his generation, period. self indulgent or not, he is the man!!!!

  • Love squire but I hate this cock rock sound...fuck the seahorses...long live the ROSES!

  • I think if by generation, we're referring to the "britpop" generation, then yes Squire's the best. Oasis are my favorite, but Noel is first and foremost a songwriter. Guys generally regarded as great britpop guitarists (like Coxon, and Bernard Butler, who are both good) don't measure up to Squire. Though Marr is probably better

  • Squire is great, but so too are Coxon and Butler, they are just not so show offish and self-indulgent as Squire... The best of the generation though is Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood - another who only lets rip on occasion.

  • Noel's a decent guitar player. Not a great one, but certainly not a bad one. Marr and Squire are probably my two favorite guitarists in the world.

  • Oh yea he's a good guitarist, Noel is god to me, but for his songwriting. Yea Marr and Squire are easily two of my favorite guitarists of all time as well.

  • I think technically that kind of playing is not Squire's strongest point. Even the sound was muddy. Marr is the best, as musical as Squire but technically stronger and more versatile, had a far better live sound too. Not that it really matters in the end, both top songwriters.

  • capo on fret 2.... its starts in E then A , C , B bk to E .. i was able to play the full song wn i was about 14 cause total guitar covered it , its pretty easy anyways lolo

  • is that a capo or a string dampener?

  • john squire is great, but what about steve cradock from OCS? perhaps the most under rated guitarist of his generation!

  • true mate true but squire is better

  • yea squires better but the seahorses sucked

  • Well, if the argument that indie guitarists often can shred but choose not to has any proof, this is it.

  • his style is really like jimmy page, but that not a bad thing, page is a guitar GOD.

  • Of his generation i think he is best Uk guitarist.. him and johnny marr! superb!

  • John Squire is so fucken underrated! He's definitely up there with Johnny Marr & Bernard Butler.

  • lol, two names I've never heard

    -but will definitely look into

  • Johhny Marr is from The Smiths & Bernard Butler is Suede's guitarist from 1989-1994. Richard Oakes was hired on to replace him when he was only 17 years old. He's another amazingly underrated guitarist... unfortunately.

  • awesome, i'll check it out

  • Butler isnt so great....

  • I can understand if you're not a fan of Suede but if you've ever seen him play, I really think you would change your mind.