RE. RE. RE. Who Hijacked Islam??! by Baba Ali Peace/Violence in I

[asiv001]

Also important to note is that(to my knowledge) the Mushrikeen were not persecuted by the Islamic state once they left the land. Had there been persecution(like what the Quraish were doing to the muslims when Islam was declared by muhammad), it would be reasonable to consider us as being evil.

[ItsAmadWorld2]

Asiv: Also important to note is that(to my knowledge) the Mushrikeen were not persecuted by the Islamic state once they left the land.

IAM2: In otherwords, they weren't pursued into non-Muslim countries? Is that because those non-Muslim countries might have fought back through crusade like tactics?

Asiv: Had there been persecution(like what the Quraish were doing to the muslims when Islam was declared by muhammad), it would be reasonable to consider us as being evil.

IAM2: Is persecuti

[ItsAmadWorld2]

IAM2: Is persecution code for "not wanting to submit" being that disbelief/persecution is "worse than slaughter" to Allah?

[asiv001]

The same rule should obviously apply today as well. And if it does not apply, then the Islamic state runs the risk of failing, which God clearly has shown to us by revealing these verses.

Take note that the Mushrikeen were not ambushed nor massacred but were given a fair notice of intent. On a personal note, I think that it was necessary to declare that the Mushrikeen be banished in order to solidify the Islamic statehood of the territory....

[ItsAmadWorld2]

Asiv: The same rule should obviously apply today as well. And if it does not apply, then the Islamic state runs the risk of failing, which God clearly has shown to us by revealing these verses.

IAM2: To fail means?

Asiv: Take note that the Mushrikeen were not ambushed nor massacred but were given a fair notice of intent.

IAM2: To leave their homes and get out of the country if they felt giving their money TO Islam would be like bowing down to the false idol described in the Book of Daniel,

[ItsAmadWorld2]

IAM2: To leave their homes and get out of the country if they felt giving their money TO Islam would be like bowing down to the false idol described in the Book of Daniel, true?

Asiv: On a personal note, I think that it was necessary to declare that the Mushrikeen be banished in order to solidify the Islamic statehood of the territory....

Iam2: Which you have no problem with, true? But, what if it was the other way around, where a militant religion that believed MORE gods than one,

[ItsAmadWorld2]

Iam2: Which you have no problem with, true? But, what if it was the other way around, where a militant religion that believed in, say, ten gods, forced people and Muslims to pay a tax until they submitted to it say, only three times a day of pulling out a prayer rug and bowing down, to, say, the Temple MOunt in Jerusalem? Then there would be a problem, true?

[asiv001]

Therefore after the Islamic state was established, the Prophet was instructed to clear the state up to it's perimeter from anyone who still considered "Shirk"(see definition in previous comment under "mushhrikeen") as a way of living. There was a warning given(of 4 months) for those who refused to accept the status quo to leave the state. And off course with the exception of those who had treaties but were considered as loyal to the Islamic state......

[ItsAmadWorld2]

Asiv: Therefore after the Islamic state was established, the Prophet was instructed to clear the state up to it's perimeter from anyone who still considered "Shirk"(see definition in previous comment under "mushhrikeen") as a way of living. There was a warning given (of 4 months) for those who refused to accept the status quo to leave the state.

IAM2: If they didn't want to become Muslims, fearing it would be bowing to the image described in the Book of Daniel, no doubt.

[ItsAmadWorld2]

Asiv: And off course with the exception of those who had treaties but were considered as loyal to the Islamic state.....

IAM2: But, after sacred months, then what happens to them IF they aren't paying the jizyah tax being that to do so would be like giving to a false god to them, or, in away, worshipping it (bowing down to it by giving it their money)? What would happen to them after sacred months?

[asiv001]

Certainly, there is enough to understand your comment. As a matter of fact, Islam is based on the belief that we humans are subject to corruption in our faith and therefore, these verses were revealed in order to protect our society from outside influences(satan being the main cause of any corruption). We were(are!) also subject to what God(and Muhammad) considered insecurity of the Muslims by the Mushrikeen(i.e.polytheist,paga­n,idolater or anyone setting up a rival to the belief in one God.....

[ItsAmadWorld2]

Asiv001: Certainly, there is enough to understand your comment. As a matter of fact, Islam is based on the belief that we humans are subject to corruption in our faith and therefore, these verses were revealed in order to protect our society from outside influences

IAM2: How?

As: (satan being the main cause of any corruption).

IAM2: It's SATAN that leads off the "right path as he pleases"?  Guess what the Quran says?

[ItsAmadWorld2]

As: We were(are!) also subject to what God(and Muhammad) considered insecurity of the Muslims by the Mushrikeen(i.e.polytheist,paga­­n,idolater or anyone setting up a rival to the belief in one God.....

IAM2: I see.

[ItsAmadWorld2]

@asiv001

Are you trying to say I removed your comments? IF you have, I'll let it known to my readers that everything you posted is still here being that I when I responded to you, I didn't remove any of your words, but, re-posted them as I replied to you. Truly, YOU or YouTube might have removed your comments, but, what you have commented here is intact with my reply to them. I also have them in my personal files it YouTube removes this video.

[Youradumbassbarnes]

So are u a muslim

[ItsAmadWorld2]

I'm what the Quran says who has no ground to stand upon unless I stand firm upon the Torah and the Injil. I'm the one the Quran tells Muslims to come to me for my reading the before Scriptures if they are in doubt about the Quran. I'm the one who Muslims are to fight until I feel myself humiliated and pay the jizyah with willing submission. I'm the one doing the WORST of sins, which is believing that God has a Son.

[Youradumbassbarnes]

Christian eh

[ItsAmadWorld2]

You could say that.

[Bambino1974]

Wow look at his eyes, he looks like he is on something.

[ItsAmadWorld2]

It's called "being on a roll".