Ian Juby Jones and the stuff that came from nowhere (US Version)

[Benjuthula]

I think mass is converted to energy and not matter as you say - the matter loses mass which becomes energy.

[MrSchpankme]

The only thing worse than Biblical Babel is Einstein Babble.

[michalchik]

OK, I have to say that most Mensa members are not creationists and we know the being able to do math puzzles does not make us qualified to refute theoretical physics. In fact, we are more likely to not be creationists and to respect Lawrence Krauss than the general population.

[oldsynner]

YT's related videos throws up often hilarious results. Currently top rec is Mr Juby's Evolution pwnage compo results. Sigh.

[FishHeadSalad]

Hi Paul, at 6:39 in the vid, crocoduck hunter is holding a replica of that stupid cambodian stegosaurus. Do you remember where that image came from? I could sure use it, or a clip of the video it was in, in a video I am working on. Please don't make me sit through hours of juby to find it! ; )

Thanks. -Salad

[paulchartley]

@FishHeadSalad I got all my images of Juby from Google images with the search term "ian Juby". From the UK, its the second image that comes up

The others are still images taken from screen shots of his videos.

Nobody should be made to sit through hours of Juby

[Ilicium]

Ah, that wonderful northern accent, slamming another idiot creatard. Unfortunately, when he invokes magical god, anything is possible.

[Ansonidak]

Epic. Thank you.

[Artifactorfiction]

So Good ....

[saxmanchiro]

For Juby, the problem starts right away in this vid, since he seems to ridicule science any time he opens his pie hole; at 2:40, you mention, "through modern physics...". Juby likes it to be ancient mythology. No room for science in his mind.

Nice smack in his fat face.

[ShallowBeThyGames]

Is this the "US version" where you restrict your vocabulary to that of a 12 year old for their "special" needs?

[ShallowBeThyGames]

@ShallowBeThyGames Yep, I pulled the pin, let's wait for the shrapnel.

[ShallowBeThyGames]

@ShallowBeThyGames Yep, I pulled the pin, let's wait for the shrapnel.

[paulchartley]

@ShallowBeThyGames When I first posted it this morning it had different music at the beginning taken directly from the Raiders of the Lost Ark soundtrack which was blocked on copyright grounds for viewers in the US and Canada.

This is a bit of a problem considering that the person who I am replying to is in Canada so I swapped the music and re re-uploaded it as the "US Version" so viewers from the rest of the world would know why it was re posted.

...but I see your point :0)

[ShallowBeThyGames]

@paulchartley Hmmm. I thought something like that, but wanted to see how sensitive the Yanks were gonna be this evening.

[paulchartley]

@ShallowBeThyGames You be trollin'! :0)

The original is just unlisted and can be found here if you are curious

/watch?v=Fiymu_pEUAw

Only the music in the first 40 seconds is different

[thefusilier1000]

Well done. I wish this guy WOULD float off into outer space.

[ralph17p]

It's only at Goood evening Ian... and I've already clicked the like button. Because I've got that prickly feeling that means some serious pwnage is coming along soon. Ah yes....

[ralph17p]

It's only at "Goood evening Ian..." and I've already clicked the like button. Because I've got that prickly feeling that means some serious pwnage is coming along soon. Ah yes....

[Minttzz]

Just being nitpicky but an atomic bomb releases the energy that binds heavy atomic nuclei as the atoms split into smaller nuclei. It doesn't convert convert matter to energy.

[opaldragon75]

@Minttzz actual yes it does.. during the process the is a tiny loss of matter during the interaction. that is why it is soooooo much more powerful then any chemical reaction. no the process doesn't convert a 100% of the matter, that would be an antimatter reaction; but even a 1% matter to energy is giga loads of energy.

I hope this post ok!! lol

[no2religions]

@Minttzz Just to be nitpicky, the sum mass of the smaller nuclei is less than that of the larger nuclei. That tiny difference in mass amounts to a HUGE amount of energy. E=mc² isn't mentioned in connection to "The Bomb" for nothing. The "=" doesn't mean conversion from one to the other but that they are in fact the same thing. Gravity makes gravity of its own, like matter would, and a compressed spring is more massive than an uncompressed spring, and fast thing has more mass than a slow thing.

[opaldragon75]

You need to do more video like this, show the connection from science to technology that we use! So creationist really believe that god sent angels to Apple, Sony and IMB to give then magical devices that we call Computers, iPhones and Blu-ray players to sell to us.

Or at worst try to make science sound like a light switch and it work when they need it to and does not work when it contradict the bible!

A new fallacy - Lite switch fallacy.

[TheEvilOfScientology]

Exquisite.

[russellchannel]

Ian Juby=negative energy, Paul C. Hartley = Positive energy....and I believe the scale shows slightly more than an electron more positive energy...would that Ian could wink out o existence before sucking another kids mind into his black hole.

[Tunnelfish2]

Morons Espousing Non-Scientific Asshattery is more likely the MENSA Juby belongs to.

[deriamis]

I used to be a member of Mensa. I left when I realized that the meetings consisted of people talking about how smart they were while saying very stupid things. I could get that for free from the Internets, so I stopped paying my dues.

[paulchartley]

@deriamis The problem I have with Mensa is that it is often used as a substitute qualification to trot out when the qualifications you have are not relevant.

Mensa members are undoubtedly intelligent but the ability to do well in an IQ test is no substitute to years of study in a specialist subject and Ian does not seem to realise this

What he is saying to his intended audience is that he is more intelligent than they are so they should just take his word for it

:0)

[TheSpankymonkey]

@paulchartley - I can second that. When i was 18 i scored a mental score on a Mensa test. I think i was offered a free membership or some crap too. The fact of the matter was at the time I was thick as shit (which only an education could teach me, in retrospect that is). If you have a propensity towards spatial awareness, patterns and arithmetic then you are bound to do well in Mensa tests. Also a week or two of doing tests like that can cause huge increases in scores.

[TheBobbsey]

@deriamis so this means all of the people i know, and casual acquaintances as well, could well be all mensa candidates, and all Australian politicians. lol

[bobbytookalook]

Very nicely done sir! As usual. Rational Canadians salute you!

[finderfinder100]

Ian Juby is proof that any crack pot can say anything on internet and get at least one fan. He should avoid quantum physics, geology, biology and paleontology like the plague since he most likely won't understand any of it.

[talkingprimate]

Bloody hell. Now I need a new keyboard!!!

[rationalmuscle]

Paul, an equally challenging question would be, "Where did the hydrogen come from to form the water, since hydrogen is a product of stars?... You know, the water that was present in the vacuum of space, which without radiation/heat/etc. that would have been a sphere of ice, assuming hydrogen was poofed into existence as well?...etc., etc...."

[paulchartley]

@rationalmuscle Even better is where did the oxygen come from that bonded with the hydrogen to form the water that made up the deep that the lord did move upon?

[gateman42]

@paulchartley Even better, if god created the darkness and the light than what color was gods space beforehand? Maybe a nice shade of Lavender? And who taught god how to make photons, electrons, quarks, anti-matter, matter and so on?

[finitekosmos]

@paulchartley Far be it for me to take this too far, but if the lord did in fact move upon it, how big was the movement and was it that particular movement that was responsible for the creation of the land masses? ;)

[ixamraxi]

@rationalmuscle - Hydrogen isnt a product of stars, its a product of the Big Bang. The existence of hydrogen from the big bang is fundamentally necessary for the existence of stars, as the hydrogen must have coalesced via gravity to the point where the gravitational forces generated enough heat for the hydrogen to spontaneously combust, creating a star, and the resulting fusion occurring inside the star can create every other element in existence, from oxygen and water to lead and ozmium.

[FiverBeyond]

Ah, Mr. Chartley, the great service that you provide to the internets and to the rational world in general can hardly be understated. Well done, sir, well done.

[grant50]

@FiverBeyond Overstated? .

[FiverBeyond]

@grant50

Aha... yes, of course. Good eye.

[orge121]

Hate to play devils advocate (tehe)...but if you accept the idea of an all powerful creator...then it is acceptable that god could create just light. Of course you need to have an actual all powerful creator, which is the larger problem.

[rationalmuscle]

@orge121 // but if you accept the idea of an all powerful creator... //

Well, at that point, rationality is tossed anyway... ; )

[orge121]

@rationalmuscle I agree...just playing devils advocate and saying the response that would be said.

[paulchartley]

@orge121 When you start invoking magic then anything is possible.

:0)

[morganbath]

@paulchartley But that is their basic argument. The universe is impossible, therefore its magic, and we will set fire to anyone who sniggers when we say that.

[akylae101]

This. Is. Gold.

Take care.

[TalladegaTom]

Truly awesome video sir!

All that is left of Ian here is a wisp of smoke wafting from the ashes.

[Parabol0086]

Nobody insults these little turds better than you, Paul. Some terrific lines in this video. Great stuff.

[grant50]

@Parabol0086 I know they're like apples and oranges stylistically, but you have to admit that TheLivingDinosaur flushes these little turds fairly well, too. Not to mention WildwoodClaire1 et al.

[Parabol0086]

@grant50

I am subscribed to TLD and WC1. I feel TLD is very crude (entirely justified) whereas Paul's lines like "... finding your way around outdoors with your beige clothes, rutsack, hammer and mensa card.." (delivered much better) are terrific.

His first 20 or so Lit. Genesis had me in stitches.

[Hereticbooks]

I love your videos....in fact! I watch for them to pop up in my inbox.

[Wordavee1]

It always amazes me that they alway go on about how unbelieveable it is that "something came from nothing", i.e. the big bang, but are perfectly willing to believe that an entity with the power to create life, the universe & everything, somehow came from errrr... nowhere!!

[rnicey]

Be careful mocking people dying for their country, especially civilians in a nuclear blast. It smacks of bad taste and I believe you're above that.

Otherwise some good science and delivered with the usual verve. Thx.

[Alphqwe]

The Porn Stars Will be insulted when they find out that Ian Juby Jones is in the same club!!

[iamgoddard]

Excellent video!!

Some Hindu-creation theories posit creation ex-nihilo. That view then permeates interpretation of reality per se such that everything is seen as never truly being more than an original void. For example:

"[N]either the mind nor the objects perceived by the mind are ever born [...] That which is non-existent in the beginning and in the end, is necessarily non-existent in the middle. The objects we see are illusions, still they are regarded as if real." - Mandukya Upanishad

[AllRightRotten]

His mockery of the book title does rather seem to suggest that he hasn't actually gone to the extreme of opening the book. If he had he would realise that a physicist's notion of 'nothing' is not the same as that of a lay-person.

[Akira625]

You know, if the creationists really did have God on their side to support their arguments for creation, one would think that those arguments could stand on their own merits, and wouldn't be as easily refuted by scientists like they are. Just sayin'.

[G0lfYankee]

I love this channel! Thanks to @wildwoodclaire1 for featuring it and of course to @paulchartley for producing the videos. Fantastic stuff.

[USERNAMEfieldempty]

I love watching clever people beat the crap out of arrogant, stupid people. It gives me a warm glow of pleasure and hope for the future.

[Cactarpus]

Has anyone else noticed that Ian Juby is like a fatter NephilimFree?

[Webofscience]

So Ian Juby is the new Nephilimfree, right?

[geragna]

Ahh nice! It's no longer Koch Blocked! ;D

[KaroKoenich]

Nice work. However... I think I mentioned it to Claire as well not long ago: I have a nagging feeling that Ian Juby is a giant Poe who will out himself as atheist some day and laugh at all the crap christians swallowed from him over years.

[savageecho]

@KaroKoenich Even if he was I would bet money that the christians would react like people did to the spirit rappers and claim that he doesn't believe his confession but that he was forced to do it.

[achtungcircus]

"smart people join Mensa, really smart people quit".

Said by someone (maybe Azimov), but as a group it's dysfunctional. as are many of the members.

[pilgrimpater]

If MENSA gives you the ability to conclude that fossilised dinosaur eggs being laid in a row is evidence of the mother dino running from a global flood, then all i can say is that i am proud to remain as thick as shit.

[MacNutz2]

I particularly dislike Ian Juby because he makes a profession of lying to children, of teaching what he knows to be bullcrap while presenting himself in the guise of an intellectual authority figure. One fully qualified to teach vocal music to middle school children in Ontario, which he did, part time.  Until he found there was more money and certainly greater recognition in his new and much less honorable incarnation.

[WildwoodClaire1]

AHHHHHHHHHHHH! I am but a mere tyro at puncturing flapdoodle-spewing gasbags compared to thee.

[paulchartley]

@WildwoodClaire1 Don't be daft, when I was doing this one I was constantly thinking of what you would say to him.

Unfortunately calling him chubby hubby doesnt work very well for me so I have to think of other things.

Besides your demolition of douche baggery is second to none when it comes to debunking folks like Ian about geology.

Also, a great many thanks for the shoutout on Sunday in coffee with Claire, yet again I owe you one

:0)

[drumrnva]

"Toilet paper, kindling, or both." LOL!

[emancoy]

Ian Juby a member of MENSA CANADA?

[paulchartley]

@emancoy Apparently so and that appears to be his ONLY academic qualification.

I'm sure he has others but his Mensa membership card is the only one I can find that he uses - even on his own website - to give him credibility when countering the ideas published by people with relevant PhDs and Nobel prizes.

[MacNutz2]

@paulchartley If you have ever been around MENSA people you know that it has very little meaning. What does mensa membership qualify you for???

[paulchartley]

@MacNutz2 "What does mensa membership qualify you for???"

A monthly newsletter and magazine and discounts on Mensa branded merchandise by the looks of their website.

I guess its a handy way for people who you would usually assume are stupid to prove that they are intelligent, especially when they spend all of their time talking bullshit and espousing ideas that where debunked centuries ago.

I have an IQ high enough to join but common sense enough not to need to spend £45 per year to do it.

[MacNutz2]

@paulchartley I have the basic requirement, as well. I met a few members at a sort of social gathering. I found it very strange in an unexciting sort of way. It was a very short evening. I was naive enough to be flattered by the invitation although I did feel some embarrassment upon reflection.

Thwarted vanity and other emotional glitches have a way of stunting even the most powerful intellect. Like a super computer with buggy apps and multiple virus infestations.

[TBTabby]

@A sense of smug superiority.

[DeathofSpeech]

@MacNutz2

"What does mensa membership qualify you for???"

A discount card at Urban Outfitters?

[ciaochowbella]

@MacNutz2 Jack shit.

[DeathofSpeech]

@paulchartley

"that appears to be his ONLY academic qualification."

Terribly untrue. An unimpeachable source (his 3rd grade teacher) says he once received a gold star for his macaroni art interpretation of Adam and Eve in Jurassic Park.

[MomoTheBellyDancer]

@emancoy

"Ian Juby a member of MENSA CANADA?"

Probably. I have been a member of MENSA for a year or so, but I didn't really think it was all that. The people there didn't really appear to be more reasonable than most other people, and I frankly thought most of them were a bit boring.

In any case, a MENSA membership is no substitute for proper scientific education.

[Cornwall1888]

Best voice on youtube.

[Jrezky]

Thanks for reuploading this, I was excited to watch it and just as disappointed when the banned message came up. I had actually given up on ever seeing it so thank you very much for making it available.