thank u for posting. very clear, excellent 4 reference. dont pay attention to neg. comments. he who speaks does not know, he who knows does not speak! lol good job,THANK YOU! hang in there!
I think you don't really understand the meaning of "CHAM". That's the most important part of the whole technique. To defense you need : Tan Dao, Bon Dao, Fuk Dao, Gan Dao, Kwan Dao, Man Do.... But when for counter attack you need to know how to perform "CHAM DAO" with strength & power (of course the last part Kap Dao is for counter attack too & is part of the "CHAM" for very short distant attack).
Let me just say, if you knew Chi Do or the application of the Do you would be behaving differently in many parts of the form. Gap Do is one serious example thats quite different to me. id like to see a vid of you applying it against the Lok Dim Boon Kwan, that ad al the upside down Do what purpose does this serve in application.. curious ?
@Moe7133 Bruce Lee was a golden egg because of his fame and he introduced the chinese martial arts to the world thru movies, he unfortunately was not a golden egg in Wing Chun, as said he knew the moves and art but he unfortunately never accomplished inner strength so instead he compensated it with speed and strength. He even mentionned that he was trying to accomplish the latter but got killed before he could do so. You can find this info in Ip Chun's Wing Chun Kung Fu book with Michael Tse.
@TheHanzoHasashi Still, Bruce is still an Golden Egg. This guy is a chump! He should take Bruce advice too. "The highest art, is no art at all. The highest form, is no form." "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, and it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Bruce Lee
@Moe7133 Hehe i wasn't talking about this chump anyway, i was referring to your Golden Egg title on Bruce Lee, oh and i made a grammatical mistake: i said "latter" i meant "former". This guy on the vid has a lot of precision moves to still practice, he's not even on the centerline. But about B.Lee yes he knows the theories and he could even imagine & explain them, but he never mastered it, R.I.P. Bruce hopefully he found some answers in heaven. And yes we are all proud of his achievements.
@TheHanzoHasashi You still don't understand his theory. Mastering an art means you have achieved the highest form of that art. Of course Bruce never master it, because art is unlimited. Do you think anyone actually master Wing Chun. If they say they did, it would be stupid. Now to understand the concept of Wing Chun and teach it is correct, but to master it. "NO!"
"The highest form, is no form." -Bruce Lee
"Once you stop learning, you start dying." -Albert Einstein
@Moe7133 You are overthinking what i said, I was talking about inner strength which is something many wing chun master can achieve without being the "all mighty great one of an art or form". Inner strength is one small part of the Wing chun, not the whole martial art but the most important part, & some people have mastered that part. Some can achieve one thing while others not. Lee didn't achieve this part, he didn't stay in china long enough to be able to learn with his teacher to that extent.
@TheHanzoHasashi If Lee didn't master inner strength then is his 1 inch punch for? So blowing someone 6 feet away with an 1 inch punch is not achieving inner strength. Yea right. :)
@Moe7133 You fail to understand what inner strength is, the inch punch is part of the theory of delivering strength at the last moment (punching at precise moment not when you throw the punch), concept well explained in Wing Chun, it is not inner strength. Take a few lectures of wing chun books, it's well explained. Ip Chun explained that same concept. Inner strength on the other hand is the method of breathing and applying that breath to moves and of use of the other's energy and momentum.
@TheHanzoHasashi the one inch punch is effective becasue it employs all of the joints of the body in one motion... from finger to wrist to elbow to sholder to waist to theigh to ankle to foot to the earth.... when applied simulatiously all of the shock power is delivered... i think bruce lee showed the technique which can be easily found on you tube... watch his feet
why does every forget the shape of this blade. it can turn and move with elbow strikes. It is devastating. check some hunggar versions of this. than you'll understand...
This form was only learnd out to few students that the sifus did have confidence in and they trusted. But today everybody can learn it but few people actully know the real secret among that form // Sifu
anyway..THis is the baat dam jo form. I think students of wing chun should know this form beginner or advance. this was the first form u would know anyway before siu lim tao. if u were going to war u wouldnt go empty hand they would give u a weapon. all that secret bullshitsu is just not relevant these days...south east Asian arts prove practicality over mystic is always more superior. Wingchun should b no different if its truly gna b respected rather than relying on bruce lees contribution.
It's OK to take it as a reference. He's only showing the forms of Baat Cham Doh but he's not performing the techniques properly. His Cham (chop),Tan,Bong,Fook,Gan,Kwan,Tong,Man,Kap, Doh (Knife) etc... are all not properly performed.For sure he's not his master's best student (of Baat Cham Doh) to do the demonstration. Not too bad (I saw someone who did it much worse) but not very good for sure.
the design of the blade is good for this style. escrima does not have a handle on their blades. different weapons. different cultures and styles. if I were to choose in a blade fight with this and a normal blade without the handle to fight. I'd choose this anytime. this blade is so devastating if actually used. but nobody uses this blade to fight anymore. so not usefull. is saying this arnis is better for modern day usage. though i doubt any sane person would fight with a 'parang'
A sane person wouldn't attack people in the street with a knife just for fun anyway. So if you are insane you could go for whatever you like, I prefer wakizashis and Turkish yatagan, but these fellows are quite nice also, love the wide blade and a nice curve for extra cutting power.
I would like to kindly request that lls188 remove this clip. Phoenixfist was right in stating how sacred this form is, and how it's should only be shown to dedicated student. Anyone who is truly looking to learn Wing Chun's weaponry should seek out a knowledgable Sifu personally. For those who want to learn, attend the class and learn from Master Yip personally. Don't youtube his dvd for cliffnotes on the knife form.
first thing all wepons are just extensions of the body. If you are good enough to use wepons then your wing chun should be extordinary. His usage of the butterfly swords are fucking garbage i've seen ninja turtles use wepons better then that
TMNT are for kids and fantasy. turtles dont mutate to human being let alone ninjas. again movies are fantasies- nowhere near the real world. if u get ur black belt or grades watching films and videos, then good luck to u mate. maybe u should join the ninja turtles...
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some moves/techniques and principles of wing chun are meant to stay only with true practitioners {and it shall remain there}and not publicly owned. unless ur a member of the {few} exclusive wing chun elite club...
yip man only taught the genuine article(butterfly knives form) to three people... and these diciples only meant to teach it to another 3 most trusted students and so on. it is not meant for show. if they show it (on you tube or videos,etc...) they have broken the rule. it is only meant for private show/tuition and nothing more. we only practice our knives form within. we certainly dont show it for outsiders.
The knives that he recommends are always much heavier than his personal knives. Trust me ;) I trained with his knives many years ago at VTAA and they were extremely light in comparison to the ones he recommended I should buy. They were after all training knives. Anyway it is not really important now. Peace!
This is Ip Chun's form I learned it 12 year's ago.I think this is Yip Pui Not related but a long time student of his.And I think it is not a good example of the form and yip chun is at least 83 so give the guy a little credit
This is indeed Ip Chun Si-fu way of doing the knives form. It is perhaps the closest form you will get to the late Yip Man. The guy needs practice - give him a break! Those training knives appear pretty heavy too, you can easily tell by the wrists struggling to sustain the horizontal position on the forward stroke/chop. I believe using lighter knives in the beginning is more advantageous. Ip Chun own training knives are as light as a feather. Correct practice makes perfect:)
I think you are right, this guy needs to be pratice more. But I 'm happy to see a slow performance like that so I can see all actions clearly. It's good for a beginner like me, Ha Ha.
Thanks for the performance, I think the real actions is also more or less like that, may be faster and more powerful.
thank you very much for posting this form. It is good to see people willing to share. This form looks like it was a bogus form as they say because nearly all of the movements look like they are designed to make one accidentally cut himself in the most sensitive vital spots and tangle the practicioners' own arms. I study wing chun myself and it looks like a suicide form.
Finally someone has good eyes and good sense. Check out another bogus form "Hawaii Wing Chun Knife Set". At 2:05 sec, the Orange County WC dude placed his knife blade right on top of his arm. That's exactly what you call suicidal. People learn bogus form without questioning the validity of the techniques. Some of the made up moves are ludicrously erroneous and totally contradicting WC basic principles.
That's true that that's bad form, but for that one,
I mostly liked the form itself, but the guy's skill in movement wasnt very good so I'll chalk it up to incomplete learning rather than deliberate sabotage.
Yeah, I don't think they deliberately sabotage the form. Most people learn from some second gen sifu who never completed the system. The bad form keeps multiply generation after generation. There is no way to clean it up now, LOL!
Yes it DOES matter. There are ethic and honesty issues. Although no one will really duel with weapon fight these days, it is very important to teach the right techniques. Look at all those bogus moves, do they make sense? One will end up hurting oneself using that stupid made-up crap. They don't even look right; granted _ing __un is not meant for looks.
Bogus or not is not entirely matters, at least a rather complete form was perform and share. Who else out there can share the Ip-Man art if there is a true version !
This looks like Ip Chun's bogus version of BCD. Do a Google search and you'll find Ip Chun doing it himself. It's sad he believes it himself and taught so many unsuspecting students the bogus stuffs.
The form looks ok. At least not like william cheungs crap. The only thing is this guy is a beginner. He is probably not used to the weight of the blades.
Search for Samuel Kwok (I gave him the nickname Scam-uel Krook, brah ha ha ha!) and you'll find a clip of him doing the right form but with only the first three sections. He learned it from the correct source but lacks finer understanding of the movements. His moves are choppy and exaggerated; I guess it's for shows, LOL. There is an inside story why Ip Chun did not learn the correct form, if you are in the know. Cheers, =)
thank u for posting. very clear, excellent 4 reference. dont pay attention to neg. comments. he who speaks does not know, he who knows does not speak! lol good job,THANK YOU! hang in there!
SifuJoeBender 2 months ago in playlist Wing Chun
現今世代，沒見過如次高水平之功夫！
AO942 3 months ago
I think you don't really understand the meaning of "CHAM". That's the most important part of the whole technique. To defense you need : Tan Dao, Bon Dao, Fuk Dao, Gan Dao, Kwan Dao, Man Do.... But when for counter attack you need to know how to perform "CHAM DAO" with strength & power (of course the last part Kap Dao is for counter attack too & is part of the "CHAM" for very short distant attack).
ac338 5 months ago
老板，豬肉五斤，唔該。
adsl2912117 6 months ago
似斬豬多D...
storminseer 7 months ago
i think most people watching this could do that after watching a few times
DarthScosha 8 months ago
Scrawny Chicken Form, anyone?
mistermangetout 9 months ago
slow for teaching to the other this is the message of this video but could you please make a faster version too:? please
markohu 1 year ago
I wish to buy them
markohu 1 year ago
沒本事的人打起嘴砲總是特別響亮XD
a3563a3563 1 year ago
I hope he hasn't quit his day job
macnwhizz 1 year ago
the movements for is own are empty... they need spirit!!!
saludos!!
Intilo 1 year ago
好軟..............這樣砍的瞭人?!
ujhk55236625 1 year ago
一睇就知呢個係武天材啦.....hahahahaha! 成個脹爆咁...!
davidcyho 1 year ago
Let me just say, if you knew Chi Do or the application of the Do you would be behaving differently in many parts of the form. Gap Do is one serious example thats quite different to me. id like to see a vid of you applying it against the Lok Dim Boon Kwan, that ad al the upside down Do what purpose does this serve in application.. curious ?
DrewNZ 1 year ago
人地特登做慢D比你睇
2010kclai 1 year ago 2
沒力?
sunjaixb 1 year ago
怎麼都沒什麼頓點= ="
f8889181 1 year ago
刀,是下等人的武器 洋人有槍炮 華人有功夫 哈哈哈
難道每個人都可以練成金鐘罩 鐵布衫檔子彈?
hsieh801007 1 year ago
這能幹麻= =
Zeroyeu 1 year ago
Thanx
trenoops 1 year ago
講得好, 白斬雞
davidcyho 1 year ago
這不是舞蹈
也不是武術
chanM1668 1 year ago
this guy was clearly not ready to learn the knives when he was taught.
synkronyk 1 year ago 2
The lineage he is from is Austin Goh. I would recognize that version of his form anywhere.
tgcreateable 2 years ago
No, he is from Yip man lineage, he is Yip Chun's most senior student teaching in the United States, NY.
ottalese 2 years ago 2
@ottalese Sorry, this guy is no Bruce Lee at all. Bruce was a golden egg and hatched into DRAGON!!! This guy is a egg hatched into a chicken!!!
Moe7133 1 year ago
@Moe7133
Brilliant!
macnwhizz 1 year ago
@Moe7133
Hit the nail on the head
macnwhizz 1 year ago
@Moe7133 Bruce Lee was a golden egg because of his fame and he introduced the chinese martial arts to the world thru movies, he unfortunately was not a golden egg in Wing Chun, as said he knew the moves and art but he unfortunately never accomplished inner strength so instead he compensated it with speed and strength. He even mentionned that he was trying to accomplish the latter but got killed before he could do so. You can find this info in Ip Chun's Wing Chun Kung Fu book with Michael Tse.
TheHanzoHasashi 8 months ago
@TheHanzoHasashi Still, Bruce is still an Golden Egg. This guy is a chump! He should take Bruce advice too. "The highest art, is no art at all. The highest form, is no form." "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, and it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Bruce Lee
Moe7133 8 months ago
@Moe7133 Hehe i wasn't talking about this chump anyway, i was referring to your Golden Egg title on Bruce Lee, oh and i made a grammatical mistake: i said "latter" i meant "former". This guy on the vid has a lot of precision moves to still practice, he's not even on the centerline. But about B.Lee yes he knows the theories and he could even imagine & explain them, but he never mastered it, R.I.P. Bruce hopefully he found some answers in heaven. And yes we are all proud of his achievements.
TheHanzoHasashi 8 months ago
@TheHanzoHasashi You still don't understand his theory. Mastering an art means you have achieved the highest form of that art. Of course Bruce never master it, because art is unlimited. Do you think anyone actually master Wing Chun. If they say they did, it would be stupid. Now to understand the concept of Wing Chun and teach it is correct, but to master it. "NO!"
"The highest form, is no form." -Bruce Lee
"Once you stop learning, you start dying." -Albert Einstein
Moe7133 8 months ago
@Moe7133 You are overthinking what i said, I was talking about inner strength which is something many wing chun master can achieve without being the "all mighty great one of an art or form". Inner strength is one small part of the Wing chun, not the whole martial art but the most important part, & some people have mastered that part. Some can achieve one thing while others not. Lee didn't achieve this part, he didn't stay in china long enough to be able to learn with his teacher to that extent.
TheHanzoHasashi 8 months ago
@TheHanzoHasashi If Lee didn't master inner strength then is his 1 inch punch for? So blowing someone 6 feet away with an 1 inch punch is not achieving inner strength. Yea right. :)
Moe7133 8 months ago
@Moe7133 You fail to understand what inner strength is, the inch punch is part of the theory of delivering strength at the last moment (punching at precise moment not when you throw the punch), concept well explained in Wing Chun, it is not inner strength. Take a few lectures of wing chun books, it's well explained. Ip Chun explained that same concept. Inner strength on the other hand is the method of breathing and applying that breath to moves and of use of the other's energy and momentum.
TheHanzoHasashi 8 months ago
@TheHanzoHasashi the one inch punch is effective becasue it employs all of the joints of the body in one motion... from finger to wrist to elbow to sholder to waist to theigh to ankle to foot to the earth.... when applied simulatiously all of the shock power is delivered... i think bruce lee showed the technique which can be easily found on you tube... watch his feet
lizzysparkles 1 month ago
Can anyone tell me what lineage of
Wing Chun this is? It's different than the 2 or 3 versions that I'm familiar with.
theScytheofGod 2 years ago
how the fuck do guys like this have so many views?
SAIU1 2 years ago
我知道 殺雞的
bca58 2 years ago 3
哈哈哈，白斬雞
Yvesyew 2 years ago
This man should practice more!
ec8836 2 years ago 3
Centreline exposed.
UniversalExpert 2 years ago
why does every forget the shape of this blade. it can turn and move with elbow strikes. It is devastating. check some hunggar versions of this. than you'll understand...
YodaTheName 2 years ago
not difficult N__________N
how many years to this rank?
ShoyruDrag0n 3 years ago
At least 3~5 years,I think.
johnny071028 3 years ago
都冇力既
investor2628 3 years ago
阿伯你似賣豬肉多d-.-"
Rug23 3 years ago 21
form thats not all , most important is strategy and conception ...
nazgaroth84 3 years ago
This form was only learnd out to few students that the sifus did have confidence in and they trusted. But today everybody can learn it but few people actully know the real secret among that form // Sifu
shiifu 3 years ago
anyway..THis is the baat dam jo form. I think students of wing chun should know this form beginner or advance. this was the first form u would know anyway before siu lim tao. if u were going to war u wouldnt go empty hand they would give u a weapon. all that secret bullshitsu is just not relevant these days...south east Asian arts prove practicality over mystic is always more superior. Wingchun should b no different if its truly gna b respected rather than relying on bruce lees contribution.
doink3 3 years ago
It's OK to take it as a reference. He's only showing the forms of Baat Cham Doh but he's not performing the techniques properly. His Cham (chop),Tan,Bong,Fook,Gan,Kwan,Tong,Man,Kap, Doh (Knife) etc... are all not properly performed.For sure he's not his master's best student (of Baat Cham Doh) to do the demonstration. Not too bad (I saw someone who did it much worse) but not very good for sure.
ac338 3 years ago
I will learn the form before the video will be removed muahhahahha.
I love Wing tsun
ElMembro 3 years ago
lol ditto mwaaahhahahahahahah
check out escrima though much more realistic, they still use it in there special forces.
myeducation123 3 years ago
the design of the blade is good for this style. escrima does not have a handle on their blades. different weapons. different cultures and styles. if I were to choose in a blade fight with this and a normal blade without the handle to fight. I'd choose this anytime. this blade is so devastating if actually used. but nobody uses this blade to fight anymore. so not usefull. is saying this arnis is better for modern day usage. though i doubt any sane person would fight with a 'parang'
YodaTheName 2 years ago
@YodaTheName
A sane person wouldn't attack people in the street with a knife just for fun anyway. So if you are insane you could go for whatever you like, I prefer wakizashis and Turkish yatagan, but these fellows are quite nice also, love the wide blade and a nice curve for extra cutting power.
MariMano357 2 years ago
I would like to kindly request that lls188 remove this clip. Phoenixfist was right in stating how sacred this form is, and how it's should only be shown to dedicated student. Anyone who is truly looking to learn Wing Chun's weaponry should seek out a knowledgable Sifu personally. For those who want to learn, attend the class and learn from Master Yip personally. Don't youtube his dvd for cliffnotes on the knife form.
bigredgt 3 years ago
I agree with bigredgt, please remove Sifu Yip's instructional video clip, if you want to learn the form attend classes at a Wing Chung school.
ottalese 3 years ago
terrible
manuscriptz 3 years ago 9
first thing all wepons are just extensions of the body. If you are good enough to use wepons then your wing chun should be extordinary. His usage of the butterfly swords are fucking garbage i've seen ninja turtles use wepons better then that
harrywang88 4 years ago
TMNT are for kids and fantasy. turtles dont mutate to human being let alone ninjas. again movies are fantasies- nowhere near the real world. if u get ur black belt or grades watching films and videos, then good luck to u mate. maybe u should join the ninja turtles...
phoenixifist 4 years ago
It looks like he is doing it at half speed to demonstrate the form to me. Different form than the one I know, but hardly garbage.
Chumkil 4 years ago
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some moves/techniques and principles of wing chun are meant to stay only with true practitioners {and it shall remain there}and not publicly owned. unless ur a member of the {few} exclusive wing chun elite club...
phoenixifist 4 years ago
yip man only taught the genuine article(butterfly knives form) to three people... and these diciples only meant to teach it to another 3 most trusted students and so on. it is not meant for show. if they show it (on you tube or videos,etc...) they have broken the rule. it is only meant for private show/tuition and nothing more. we only practice our knives form within. we certainly dont show it for outsiders.
phoenixifist 4 years ago
Jeeaap... Amen!
Thats the way it is.
sifuevangelos 4 years ago
I dont believe the one Sifu Yip Chun has are light. I have the ones he designed and they are heavy, and more so at the tip.
ShadowWarrior88 4 years ago
The knives that he recommends are always much heavier than his personal knives. Trust me ;) I trained with his knives many years ago at VTAA and they were extremely light in comparison to the ones he recommended I should buy. They were after all training knives. Anyway it is not really important now. Peace!
jackytm 4 years ago
This is Ip Chun's form I learned it 12 year's ago.I think this is Yip Pui Not related but a long time student of his.And I think it is not a good example of the form and yip chun is at least 83 so give the guy a little credit
shuaiguy 4 years ago
白痴
horsebaby 4 years ago
誰是蠢貨?
jackytm 4 years ago
不會詠春說人家白痴??
你又算什麼?
LOUISEX0711 2 years ago 2
This is indeed Ip Chun Si-fu way of doing the knives form. It is perhaps the closest form you will get to the late Yip Man. The guy needs practice - give him a break! Those training knives appear pretty heavy too, you can easily tell by the wrists struggling to sustain the horizontal position on the forward stroke/chop. I believe using lighter knives in the beginning is more advantageous. Ip Chun own training knives are as light as a feather. Correct practice makes perfect:)
jackytm 4 years ago
I think you are right, this guy needs to be pratice more. But I 'm happy to see a slow performance like that so I can see all actions clearly. It's good for a beginner like me, Ha Ha.
Thanks for the performance, I think the real actions is also more or less like that, may be faster and more powerful.
jclouk 4 years ago
All I want to know is what family of WC is this BCD
sifurey 4 years ago
I think its ip chun
Yakshinian 4 years ago
thank you very much for posting this form. It is good to see people willing to share. This form looks like it was a bogus form as they say because nearly all of the movements look like they are designed to make one accidentally cut himself in the most sensitive vital spots and tangle the practicioners' own arms. I study wing chun myself and it looks like a suicide form.
Yakshinian 4 years ago
Finally someone has good eyes and good sense. Check out another bogus form "Hawaii Wing Chun Knife Set". At 2:05 sec, the Orange County WC dude placed his knife blade right on top of his arm. That's exactly what you call suicidal. People learn bogus form without questioning the validity of the techniques. Some of the made up moves are ludicrously erroneous and totally contradicting WC basic principles.
mofotox 4 years ago
That's true that that's bad form, but for that one,
I mostly liked the form itself, but the guy's skill in movement wasnt very good so I'll chalk it up to incomplete learning rather than deliberate sabotage.
Yakshinian 4 years ago
Yeah, I don't think they deliberately sabotage the form. Most people learn from some second gen sifu who never completed the system. The bad form keeps multiply generation after generation. There is no way to clean it up now, LOL!
mofotox 4 years ago
Its a good thing to be critical, but to scoff is degenerate.
Yakshinian 4 years ago
Who is this guy?
How long has he been training?
TooMuchSun 4 years ago
Yes it DOES matter. There are ethic and honesty issues. Although no one will really duel with weapon fight these days, it is very important to teach the right techniques. Look at all those bogus moves, do they make sense? One will end up hurting oneself using that stupid made-up crap. They don't even look right; granted _ing __un is not meant for looks.
mofotox 4 years ago
Bogus or not is not entirely matters, at least a rather complete form was perform and share. Who else out there can share the Ip-Man art if there is a true version !
bis188tube 4 years ago
This looks like Ip Chun's bogus version of BCD. Do a Google search and you'll find Ip Chun doing it himself. It's sad he believes it himself and taught so many unsuspecting students the bogus stuffs.
mofotox 4 years ago
The form looks ok. At least not like william cheungs crap. The only thing is this guy is a beginner. He is probably not used to the weight of the blades.
illyong 4 years ago
is there a clip in here that you think is worth something more than any of those commented ?
JohnEpi1973 4 years ago
Search for Samuel Kwok (I gave him the nickname Scam-uel Krook, brah ha ha ha!) and you'll find a clip of him doing the right form but with only the first three sections. He learned it from the correct source but lacks finer understanding of the movements. His moves are choppy and exaggerated; I guess it's for shows, LOL. There is an inside story why Ip Chun did not learn the correct form, if you are in the know. Cheers, =)
mofotox 4 years ago
Ahh, perhaps you begin to build up after all? Who is the correct source? What is the watch?v= video id of the video you speak of? I cannot find it.
Yakshinian 3 years ago
Nice set... What family?
ihntlzha 4 years ago