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  • This only proves that the white man is gay not Jesus.

  • OMG! I'm a gay man and I totally don't see where this video nor the explanation of the video is getting at. The author of this video seems "out there" and the video is so ambiguous that I couldn't make out if it were demeaning or uplifting the homosexual. The writings don't do that much better either. Hmmm...maybe someone else can break this down for me.

  • Jesus's bride was the Church not anyone on this earth. Jesus was without sin. Sex outside of marriage is sin. Paul spoke against sin in 1 Corinthians 6:9

    Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders.Jesus is not guilty of this but we are all guilty of sin.

  • @knight996 You are a biologically instinctive creature, driven by your genetic code to multiply and multiply! You are nothing more than bacteria in a petri dish, a perverted, brainless and soulless creature who's only aspiration it is to consume everything that there is to consume and to turn it into more of your own kind! May your gods have mercy on you because nature will not..!

  • @thenatureinme Sounds like the nature in you just joking!Everything came from nothing then organized itself to the present. It is easier to believe in Leprechauns. Have you ever taken genetics? Read Darwins decent of man? Origin of species? I believe this generation will be the laughing stock for buying into it. This is why Einstein, Oppenheimer,Newton,ect. believed in a creator because the attentive is ridiculous. But this is not why I believe.

  • @knight996 You procreative-competitive creature! I was not attacking your intelligences nor your book-knowledge, but the level to which you are conscious about your own existence in this world, that barely exceeds the point to where you are able to recognize yourself in a mirror!

  • @thenatureinme This sounds like some metaphysical nonsense. By what standard are you judging by. How do you know? Are you saying there is no absolute truth. That we are living in a matrix. This is not a serious argument. These arguments are schizophrenic at best.

  • @knight996 No, things are just the way it seems, there is nothing more to it. It is not me that lives in a martrix, it is you. I suppose it is like trying to explain to a monkey that there is nothing behind the mirror. The things that I believe, unlike you, are not the things that I want to believe. See things for what they are. Breeding and feeding, procreation and defecation is what rules your existence!

  • @thenatureinme The fact is you are very wrong. I have seen self sacrifice in the miltary people putting there lives before their on needs. People going to the mission fields in Eurasia were there very lives are put into jeopardy. We donot merely live by these existential things if so why suicide. An animal would build an orphanage,non profit hospital,sacrifice his life. In fact all the things the disciples did and jesus does not fit any of your criteria.

  • @knight996 So you fight over territory, access to resources, you even protect and care for your offspring, kill the men and rape the females of your enemies... what is new about that in the animal kingdom?! You are so obsessed with the procreation of your own species that you can not even see past the physical sex act between to men, as an act of love, rather than a failed attempt at the copulation and impregnation of a female of your own kind!

  • @thenatureinme There is something in the bible that might interest based on our long conversation from the small book of Jude. It speaks about the last days here goes."But these people scoff at things they do not understand. Like unthinking animals, they do whatever their instincts tell them, and so they bring about their own destruction." We can agree on it from that point of view.

  • @knight996 As for Jesus..; A new commandment I give unto you, That you love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love one to another. - John. 13:33-35 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. - John 15:12-13 And this my friend is what Jesus calls; The Kingdom of Heaven!

  • first and formost....Jesus was straight and i don't know if he was married or not. why don't u make fun of the devil that ugly thing? remember all of you....Jesus Christ has alot of power :)

  • @JamacianLove777 When you count all the people God killed (in those case where the bible do give numbers) it adds up to 2,3+ million. Satan only killed 10 people according to the bible they were the 7 sons and 3 daughters of Job, but only because God challenged him. It would seem to me that Satanist worship the lesser of two evils...

  • @thenatureinme sataN is a heartless prick, i used to be a satanist and my life was a misery and fucked up. if it wasn't for Jesus Christ i would have commited suicide,...

  • @JamacianLove777 Wow you are more of a lost soul than what I initially though... I do not make fun of Jesus when I say that he was gay, just as I do not make fun of myself when I say that I am gay. Jesus preached a message of love amongst all men. It is said that he 'loved his own in this world'. Sometimes things are exactly the way they seem...

  • @thenatureinme how could i be a lost soul since i have Jesus in my life?

  • @JamacianLove777 Wow you are more of a lost soul than what I initially though... I do not make fun of Jesus when I say that he was gay, just as I do not make fun of myself when I say that I am gay. Jesus preached a message of love amongst all men. It is said that he "loved his own in this world". Sometimes things are exactly the way they seem...

  • @thenatureinme Jesus does not love sin not yours not mine. Sin is so serious that even if you so much as lied one time in your life you are not fit to enter the kingdom of heaven. But we have freedom and hope in Jesus Christ.

  • @thenatureinme How do you arrive at that number two or three million. We choose death when we choose sin. And we all have chosen sin. Satan chose himself because of pride when you chose yourself you cannot remain with GOD you would not even want to. God chose us and died for us. This is the very essence of humility that we must possess. 

  • @knight996 Jesus said the whole bible can be summed up Love the lord God with all your heart mind and Soul and Love your neighbor as yourself(Everyone including your enemy). They only way this is accomplished is through Jesus Christ.

  • he could suck a mean dick

  • masterfull...?

    ';]

  • lols at title ! are they livid? (peeks at comments) oooh yes they might be!

    you a brave soul!

    ;]

  • jesus was just an idiot

  • Jesus the gardners gay arent u all a little gay deep inside thats why ur saying jesus was too so u could feel better hasnt the man taken enough from u pigs and he was married exept the gay ass church wont admit it

  • the problems with Gays are they see every male male relationship through a Gay filter, hence two men hanging out togetehr must be gay. No. two guys hanging out together is two guys hanging out together. probably talking about women.

  • the problem with christians is they dont have even the most rudimentary understanding of logical debate, science, or history

  • No! You People got it all Wrong!!! Jesus is God He Loves Us Both Men and Womens and Childrens, we are his seeds. YOu are seeing it when Judah Betrayed Jesus and give him a Kiss, a Kiss of Death.(It's the Relationship you and Jesus. )

  • Yes! Homosexuality will put an end to the suffering of this evil world. It will stop you from procreating yourselves - from bringing more sorry flesh into this world for your animals to feed upon! From continuing this senseless process of birth and death, the blood and the pus, the feeding and the faeces, the killing and the wars, the fighting, the crying... and it will be the most beautiful thing you have ever seen!

  • All I can say to you is that no matter what you are, it's not too late to turn away from your sins, God still loves you the way you are. (John 3:16)For God So Loved the World he gave His only begotten Son.

    (John 3:17) For God did not send His Son into the World to Condemn the World, But that the World through him might be Saved. - He Loves You, Becaues we are God's Childrens of this Earth.

  • wut are u tryin to say stop having kids cuz we're evil... i'm not trin to be rude jus askin"...seriously

  • Live a long and prosperous life and when you are done, go EXTINCT!

  • lol okay . i don't want kids anyway to much draammmaaa.

  • Thought provoking...

  • the title of this video is probably very offensive to gays =/

  • We only believe what we want to believe - that is the luxury of belief :)

  • Jesus was without sin.

  • Homosexuality is without sin - Jesus refered to it as; THE KINGSDOM OF HEAVEN!

  • ...the 'original' sin! Homosexuality acknowledge the fact that this world is evil and therefore it does not procreate itself. People have asked before; What malevolent being would have created good and evil, right and wrong, heaven and hell and placed humans in such a predicament? But the real question of course is; What evil creature would continue to procreate itself, in the full knowledge of such a predicament? And that creature is you..!

  • All 12 disciples or his students were actually womans:-)

  • No, all of his 12 Disciples are shown as the 12 tribules in Israel. And the 12 Kingdoms on Earth and 12 Nations.

  • I love you, Jesus!!

    (On bended Knee, I worship you Dear Lord!)

  • So you've admitted that your opinions are not based on facts - they are based on question begging, speculation and wishful thinking, thanks for that!

    Again, every single claim made in this video, a shamelessly dishonest mix of homosexualist propaganda and misinformation, has been debunked. All five parts of my rebuttal, which is based on exegesis and on facts which can be obtained from the Synoptic Gospels and other historical sources, can be viewed on my channel.

  • Ok, lets call a spade a spade...! Christianity (religion) is a procreative strategy amongst humans. The Christian bible is a 'how-to-fuck' and 'what-to-fuck' manual for dummies. Religion is there to moderate the sexual behaviour of men. Jesus was not only gay, he was PROMISCUOUS! He challenged your world order and you crucified him! These are not things that you do not know, merely things you choose not to believe!

  • I started whatching your first video "Was Jesus Gay?" Part 1 : The Disciple Whom Jesus Loved... "Now there was leaning on Jesus' BOSOM one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved." (John. 13; 23). "He then lying on Jesus' BREAST saith...who is it?" (John.13; 25). This of course all happend shortly after Jesus stripped naked to wash their feet and used the same small towel he had wrapped around his waist to supposably cover his cock and balls, to also dry their feet...

  • ...and your only explanation is that Greek and Hebrew are complex languages full of nuances and idioms that can easily be misinterpreted (...this is where I stopped watching)! YOU EDUCATED IDIOT! Your attempts to make any of this seem like anything other than what it is, requires a greater leap in faith than anything I ever suggested! YOU IDIOT!

  • Ps. I dont need to prove what I say (...that is the convenience of the truth), I only need to say it out LOUD!

    You on the other hand, use your brain to delude that which your heart already knows. You do what all religious people do; You close your eyes and ears and sing a La-La song to your self, while you continue to multiply like rats in a sewer!

  • As usual, xians say that their books are history. There is no evidence that events in the bible are history.

  • It is irrelevant if the story is factual or not, the truth in the message stays the same...

  • Why can't you xians get it through your heads! Your bible is NOT history, it's just another mythological religion.

  • Dude, I had renounced religion at a very young age, I do not practice religion, I am not religious - watch my videos!

    Never the less, the story of Jesus (whether true or not) and the hidden motives for his crucifixion and the concurrent persecution of homosexuality that followed thereafter does interest me deeply.

  • @timsteed99 trust me, the bible is real.

  • putamadre pendejo ni insultes a jesus eres un idiota

  • Isn't it interesting how the only people who ever come out with this kind of wishful-thinking nonsense are always members of a radical fringe of homosexualists and liberal theologians!The bogus claims made in this video have been debunked. The rebuttals can be viewed on my channel.

  • Even before reading these texts, even when I was a young boy myself, I instinctively knew this about Christ... Maybe it was the fag-hags following him around, maybe it was his relationship with his mother, the absence of his father, his gentle nature, the fact that he did not exhibit any procreative-competitive behaviour, the secrecy that surrounded him, the unexplained events, the response of some of his disciples, the way society reacted to him or maybe it simply TAKES ONE TO SEE ONE!

  • By what we historically know regarding Jewish custom and

    theology, absolutely nothing supports your argument. If you can draw such absurd conclusions by small passages which YOU deem homoerotic and ignore historical facts then hey, thats your business.

    1. Jesus retention of the Law of Moses even on relatively minor matters such as tithing, to say nothing of a foundational law in sexual ethics; and his view of the Old Testament as inviolable Scripture,

  • 2. The fact that the man who baptized Jesus, John the Baptist, was beheaded for defending Levitical sex laws in the case of the adult-incestuous marriage between Herod Antipas and the wife of his half-brother Philip (Lev 18:16; 20:21), a woman who was also the daughter of another half-brother (Mark 6:17-18; Matt 14:3-4).

  • 3. Early Judaisms univocal opposition to all homosexual practice.

    4. Jesus further intensification of the Laws sex-ethic in matters involving adultery of the heart and divorce (Matt 5:27-32), suggesting a closing of remaining loopholes in the Laws sex-ethic rather than a loosening; and, in his saying about cutting off body parts, warning that people could be thrown into hell precisely for not repenting of violations of Gods sexual standards (5:29-30).

  • 5. Jesus adoption of a back-to-creation model for marriage (Mark 10:6-9; Matt 19:4-6) that predicated (a) the twoness of the marital bond on the twoness of the sexes in Gen 1:27 (male and female he made them)

    6. Jesus acceptance of the Decalogue prohibition of adultery, which in its Decalogue context and its subsequent interpretation in early Judaism as a rubric for the major sex laws of the Old Testament presupposed a male-female prerequisite for valid sexual bonds.

  • The way people battle to see things that is right in front of their eyes baffled me at first, until I realized what it meant. The truth has always been written in a language that the writer knew his persecutors would not be able to understand. If you want to see something do not use your eyes, if you want to know something do not use your brain. You see it is our intellects that makes us dumb!

    Good luck with your faith.

  • I'm glad you aren't deluded enough to attempt to refute

    historical facts. Yet I don't have to battle anything,

    because when try to go off pure emotion then you

    will by no way, shape or form operate under an

    objective mindset. As the prophet Jeremiah stated

    "the heart is treacherous than anything else".

  • "Good luck with your faith."

    Thank you, to the best with yours.

  • Interesting, so what exactly does Christ's execution have

    to do with homosexuality? how did the start of persecution of homosexuality began with his execution since it was an act punishable by death in connection to Levitical Law? Also, Jesus didn't specifically mention a number of things, that doesn't mean he condones it. One has to consider Jesus' audience who were Jews and who knew

    the sex ethics, in fact Jesus strengthened the sex ethics,

    so was Jesus gay? of course not!

  • Watching the memorial service of Michael Jackson last night, it just struck me once again what Jesus-like figure he was - the controversy, the young boys, the persecution... (Mark 14; 51-52).

    You realize of course that this is all symbolic, don't you...?

  • Christ's persecution stemmed from his ministry.

    I think you are just grasping at straws here with

    the symbolism.

  • "...AND THERE FOLLOWED HIM A CERTAIN YOUNG MAN, HAVING A LINEN CLOTH CAST ABOUT HIS NAKED BODY..."! (Mark 14; 51-52)

    YOU IDIOT!

  • Are you bipolar or something? What was all that about?

    Are you incapable of civil exchange without resorting to

    ad hominem? You can attempt to twist as many scriptures

    as you like, it still wouldn't proves absolutely nothing.

  • Ok sorry, I just get fed up with people like you that refuse to ever see the truth. Take this passge for instance; They sneak up to Jesus in the middle of the night where He sleeps, apparently to catch Him doing something illegal. The author then out of the blue, makes mention of a naked boy that runs away from where they found Jesus. Jesus also aked them why do they come like thieves in the night it they all know one another from the temple?

  • First of all the only one author to mention that was Mark.

    Also they arrested him under the cover of night to make

    less of a scene as it would have caused an uprising, thus

    they didn't arrest him when he was preaching in the temple.

    Also the Gospels is very explicit in what Jesus did in the

    Garden, namely he kept watch and prayed, his apostle

    were all with him, so why are you purposely trying to

    twist text? As the previous poster said read it in CONTEXT.

  • My question to you is; What seems to be so ambiguous about what happend here? Why am I twisting scripture when I merely see things for what they are? Why can you not accept it? What was so offensive about Jesus ministry that He needed to be crucified? Is this not what He is also asking them, when He ask why they did not arrest Him at the temple today - obviously becuase there was no crime in His ministry nor what He preached.

  • Of course there was no crime in his ministry, those that

    testified bared false witness, they had no reason to

    arrest him. So what is there to accept, why do you have to go beyond what is written? you are clearly reading to much into something to arrive to your conclusions. You are twisting scriptures. I mean seriously why did you think

    he was arrested? what was the REAL reason?

  • I would love to argue some of these points... (an uprising? If I recall they all shouted like one man; Crucify Him, crucify Him!) But still you can not provide a reasonably acceptable explanation for the naked boy and you use all these other arguments to avoid dealing with this single issue! Ps. Jesus did not keep watch, His disciples was suppose to stand guard and come warn Him if someone was coming...?!

  • No offense, but I can provide many reasonable, valid and

    historically context explanations, but absolutely none will

    pacify you, because your mind is already made up. You

    purposely IGNORE for the sake of your argument the fact

    that Jesus was praying throughout that time and that Jesus

    accompanied by Peter and the 2 sons of Zebedee were

    to all keep watch(Matthew 26:40). Other than the fact that

    you twist text, I can also provide basis as to why you peddle

    a falsehood.

  • You see it is not just this single reference in the Bible, it is something I instinctively sensed about Jesus even as a child, and I know you do too. How would you explain; "Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved." (John. 13; 23) " He then lyning on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?" (John 13; 25)

  • That passage contains absolutely no sexual reference

    between Jesus and John. The custom of a student resting against his teachers chest manifests cultural conventions.

    In ancient banqueting practice there was nothing necessarily erotic about reclining on a couch slightly to the side of, in front of, and parallel to the host such that conversation required leaning the head back on the hosts chest. The parable of Lazurus & the Rich shows the same

    exact thing minus sexual connotation.

  • This all took place after the very famous feet washing scene, where Jesus himself stripped butt naked with only a towel covering his genitals, that he by-the-way also used to dry their feet. The desciples were embarrased not because this was a master-servant duty but rather something a female would do for a male. This was at Mary's house and twice it gets mentioned that Lazarus (...remember him?) and Judas were both present...mmm, asking for trouble, but that is another story :) (John 12 : 1-5)

  • In your hurry to read beyond what is written you forget the

    underlining point of Jesus washing his apostles feet. The

    lesson was about (humility) which was a recurring issue

    the apostles had amongst themselves. He being their Lord

    one of them should have taken the initiative the lesson was

    about HUMILITY read it in CONTEXT and don't try to add

    your own interpretation to it (Matthew 13:14-20)

  • Jesus wasn't gay, lol

  • well yes u should definetly repent of ur sins but im just saying that u need Christ's help and if u screw up u dont go directly to hell. should gay ppl continue to have sex with others of the same sex. absolutly not. repentance is extremly important but Jesus will help u with that. i know ppl who have been saved from the bondage of homosexuality thro Christ. God bless.

  • Really think about it for a second. Sodomy whether between two men, two women, or a man and a woman is nothing short of filthy. You are putting yourself inside the very place where all filth and excrement comes out of a human being. Why not just roll around in a septic tank? It's no wonder why gay men are at such high risk for STDs. Hepatitis can be caught from someone who doesn't even have it, just through the act of sodomy. This is because it is unnatural.

  • ya your right, the piss and blood from a vagina is so , wonderful and pure, its the only natural place to go.

  • And an interesting little fun fact is that the vagina is self-cleaning, and does so very frequently. Another fun-fact is that urine does not actually come out of the vagina itself, but out of the eurethra, which isn't inside the vagina. The anus, however, remains filthy no matter what.

  • 28 and you don't know that women pee from the urethra- not the vagina? Not only that but the blood is completely clean of blood just a few days after the period is over. Wow....

  • "the blood is completely clean of blood" wtf are you laking about? For a VAGINA to be CLEAN and HEALTHY, it must be MANUALLY CLEANED, IT DOES NOT HAPPEN NATURALLY YOU FUCKING RETARD

  • Do you actually know anything about the human body? This is basic 8th grade biology. You can find this information in any biology book, sex ed book, or even wikipedia (which is not always a good source of information, but contains a few gems).

  • Our natural repulsion towards our own faecal matter is as basic as our instinctive desire to copulate. This desire to copulate or to be copulated is in actual fact the same desire and it exists in both males as do it in females. Procreation and defecation defines our existence and in the paradoxical nature of the truth, are also the only two acts most certainly performed behind closed doors.

  • So... let me see if I understand this correctly, or at least as you mean it. Because both are natural, sodomy is right? Is this really what you are trying to say? Because we are repulsed by excrement, shouldn't that in and of itself provide an answer as to why homosexuality is unhealthy? And you may somewhere down the line say something along the lines of, "Well animals do it. If it's natural, it must be okay."

  • Do you not know that animals also rape, murder, and cannibalize? Horses, dogs, and Tazmanian devils are known to mate with a female, even when she is completely unwilling. Because she is not willing, the male causing harm to the female during the act is common. Chimpanzees, baboons, lions, dogs, and hippos are known for killing infants of their own kind. Sometimes even their own infants. Chimpanzees, baboons, snakes, and dogs will even cannibalize one another. Does that make it right?

  • This sentiment you have expressed is the origin of all religion. Your obsessive desire to be unique in all of nature is only rivalled by your arrogance to have eternal life. You have elevated yourselves above nature and demonized the natural world. You have created gods in your own image, in the image of man, in the image of your own species and that is what you worship!

  • You want to deny people love, friendship, happiness... because of a little bit of dirt? Because it makes us resemble nature? Animals? The natural world? Have you had a look at the world you have created? Dont you see it? You are the evil in this world! In your attempts to become less animal like you have managed to become more animal like, than the animals themselves!

  • We have created gods in our own images, but in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that in them is. And extrement isn't a little bit of dirt, it is something that when it enters someone can cause severe health problems. But I wonder, what is morality to you? Do you think the knowledge of good and evil is inherent or is it all a point of view?

  • Morality to me is you being concerned about some people, accidentally ingesting some faecal matter, that might cause them some health problems, to the extend where you would deny them their most basic and fundamental human rights. From what I can see; Morals and values are defined by ambitious societies and their religions that seems to have an invested interest in large human populations!

  • And please, answer my question. Because cannibalism, rape, and murder is natural, does this make it right?

  • I do not know how to answer this question. Unlike you, I do not possess the knowledge of right and wrong. If I were to guess, I would say that it is wrong, but that is merely a human perspective. I would say that it is wrong like a hurricane is wrong that flattens peoples houses. Wrong like a bush fires that burns people alive. Wrong like an epidemic that kills thousands...

  • So then you believe that it's all a matter of perspective. But what then if, let's say, someone were to come up and shoot you for absolutely no reason. They just thought it was right. Would that then make it right? And to say that humans are evil because they reproduce, by extension, all of the natural world must be evil too. Even with all the suffering in life, infants of every kind of creature continue to be born everywhere.

  • And to say that you do not possess the knowledge of right and wrong is a flat out lie. You and every other human being that ever existed was born with the knowledge of good and evil. This is called a conscience. But a conscience changes and warps as a person gets older. The first time someone steals, they feel terrible about it. They feel scared. But as they do it more, it gets easier, until it doesn't bother them at all. Because everyone has a conscience, everyone is without excuse.

  • According to your believes animals do not have a conscience, they do not get to choose, they do not know right from wrong, good from evil. The one good thing animals had going for them, was that despite what happens and unlike with us humans, they get to die in peace! But if need be you would also take that away from them... You are perpetually evil and malevolent!

  • I am, yes. And I was born into evil, but born again into righteousness. No matter what you think of yourself, you are the same. You are wicked, and just like everyone else in the world, myself included, if you get what you deserve, you will go to hell when you die. Why do you treat animals as if their lives are worth the same as the lives of human beings?

  • And I see you're jumping around the question. I did not ask you if you think animals have morals, I asked you if you think that because animals murder, rape, and cannibalise, that makes it right. Well do you? And animals do not get to die in peace. The feral world is full to the brim with suffering and death. Without the death of one creature, another could not live. Without the death of an ox, a lion could not live. WIthout the death of a fish, a dolphin could not live. Are they then evil?

  • You have already, without even thinking about it, grouped homosexuality in nature amongst behaviour like murder, rape and cannibalism. It is easy for you to judge human behaviour as right and wrong, because apparently we have a choice in the matter. But when animals do the same, it causes you a dilemma and you know why? Because it can only mean one thing; That your god created it that way!

  • Answer my question. Does the fact that animals do it make it right? Yes or no? And I have thought about it in my life, much more than I care to admitt. It is exactly this reason why I know that it is something that can be overcome, that it is a choice, and that it is immoral.

  • Yes! It serves the purpose of nature, of life. Just because you can not see its profound significance, does not make it wrong. Everything in this universe exists because it has got meaning and purpose, even your religion... My cat ate her kittens because she could not feed them. She regained the nutrients she had spend so she could try again at a later stage. Yes it is not pretty, but what is so difficult to understand?

  • So then rape and murder must be okay too, correct?

  • Don't you get it, it is not about right and wrong, good nor evil. These are relative concepts and only exists as the result of our own preconceive notion about our existence and it is also the cause of all the misery and sadness in this world...

    "He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal." (John 12 : 25)

  • So then, by this logic, who are we then to say that Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, and Pol Pot were wrong in what they did? If the concept is indeed relative, then since these men believed with all their hearts that what they were doing was right, they should then be justified in their actions, shouldn't they? If what you are saying is true, then there was nothing wrong with what they did.

  • It brings me back to my original question; What perpetually evil and malevolent creature in the full knowledge of what this life entails, would choose to continue this process, would choose to reproduce itself, would choose to bring more conscious life into this world! I suspect that the only true test in this life is to see whether you approve of this world or not...

  • heterosexual based society ??? jesus was not gay but i can tell you da vinci was gay he was a templar and they practice homosexuality ! so it would make sense he drew that last supper

  • Leviticus18:22and Romans1:26&27,say

    it all .REPENT!

  • I'm not sure what version you have on Matt 19:11-12, but he's talking about EUNUCHS, not homosexuals. I'm sure you know that not everyone born can have children, some had their balls cut off so they could be trusted with the kings ladies, and some choose not to get entangled in all the craziness a good looking woman can cause when trying to serve God. VERY LOOSE PARAPHRASE, but IMHO, more accurate than the one you replied to me with.

  • So you say, but then comes the following two passages; Then were there brought unto him little children... and the disciples rebuked them. But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. (Matt. 19:13-14) What was so offensive about what Jesus had just said, that even His disciples deemed it not suitable for children?

  • Nothing at all. In order to understand this though, you need to understand something about the Jewish culture. In His time, prominent teachers and priests would not spend their time with certain people, like beggars, women, and children because they thought themselves too important to "waste their time" on these people. Jesus was telling His disciples to preach the good news to anyone who would hear it, despite race, gender, social standing, reputation, occupation, or what have you.

  • Prior to this incident, Jesus was well known to have associated and even protected prostitutes. He had various conversations with woman, stayed in their homes, blessed their children, cure the ill and possessed, lepers, people that ordinary citizens would not have had contact with. You would have done a lot better by just suggested that He might have been tired...

  • Imagine that you've been walking around for miles and miles, without any other form of transportation. It's hot, and thousands of people crowd around you at a time to hear what you have to teach, and it gets to the point that you actually need to get on a boat and sail across a sea to have some peace and quiet. If you're this tired, would you want a bunch of noisy, ranbunctious children crowding around you?

  • Are you then suggesting that Jesus approved of polygamy? Harems? The practise of castrating young boys? The word eunuch comes from the Greek word eunoukhos which in some translations simply means unmasculine or homosexual male.

  • Some verses from the bible depicting Jesus as being gay; "Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved." (John 13 : 23) "He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?" (John 13 : 25). Picture the scene in your mind... come on people this is more homoerotic than the volleyball scene in the movie Top Gun!

  • You are comparing today's culture with the culture and practises of ancient Israel, and by doing so, you are completely misunderstanding it. Jesus did not approve of polygamy. He even said that a man leaves his father's house to marry a woman, and the TWO become one flesh. The passage in question was referring to celebacy for the kindom of heaven's sake, and putting it before all the pleasures of the world, not homosexuality or castration.

  • How do you explain the naked young man that practically jumped from Jesuss bed when they came to arrest him. "And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him. And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked." (Mark14 :51-52)

  • EASY. READ IT IN CONTEXT. JESUS and that boy where NO where near a bed or even a building. This is where Judas leads a crowd of people to arrest Jesus while he was in Gethsemane. Everyone who was there fled the scene, including a rich young boy who got hastily dressed to go see Jesus when He heard where he was. The GUARDS seized him, ripping off his linen 'undershirt', but he managed to get away. Usually, they have a wool second cloth over the linen.

  • I said 'practically...' Unlike heterosexual couples gay men don't need a bed nor a room to have sex. "...a rich young boy who got hastily dresses! " - How do you think you are fooling! If this was anyone other than Jesus you would have had no doubt as to what was going on here! See things for what they are, stop deluding yourself, stop denying the truth!

  • alright, lets say you're right. Let's get some more evidence against Jesus. How about we start with the disciples. What do they say about his sexuality in the bible?

  • "The guards seized him, ripped off his linen undershirt...!" He was butt naked when they found him with Jesus! Twice the author draws your attention to this fact. It is written so explicitly that any attempts by you, to make it appear as anything other than what it is, just makes you look like an idiot!

  • i have personally sodomized jesus.

  • Concerning your quote of Matthew 19:12, what Bible version are you reading out of?

    It sure isn't the King James Version.

  • Jesus was gay. From what I hear he was a very happy person. do you know what "gay" means? It means happy jackass...

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  • Rejecting Jesus does not earn us hell. Our sins do. But what exactly did God come in the form of Christ to do? To save us from our sins by offering Himself as a willing and perfect sacrifice, so that we could be forgiven and saved from what we deserve. No means of measure can define His limiteless love. He's enduringly strong. He's entirely sincere. He's imperially powerful. He's impartially merciful. His gift of eternal life is free. All you need to do is repent and give your life to him.

  • Think about it for a moment. People say often that God is unjust for sending people to hell because they rejected Him. But rejecting Jesus isn't what sends someone to hell. The Bible says that we all deserve to die because of our sins. There is not a single person in the whole world who is good, because all have fallen short of the glory of God. The fact that people die is proof of this, because death is caused by sin. But Jesus is what saves us.

  • The problem with homosexuality is that is is against God's will (natural reproduction will tell anyone this) and it puts one at an opposition against their Creator. It makes them decide between themselves and God. I tell you though, it isn't the sin of homosexuality that earns you eternal punishment. Homosexuality is no worse than any other sin, really. What earns someone death and hell is just the fact that they have committed one sin. One is all it takes. But there is a way out.

  • Someone might ask; What cruel being would have invented hell and placed humans in such a predicament? But the real question of course is; What cruel creature would choose to reproduce itself in the knowledge of such a predicament?

  • First of all, your quoting of Matthew 19:12 is wrong. Scripture says eunich, not homosexual. Homosexuality is sexual immorality, the same as necrophilia, pedophilia, and beastiality. It is a perversion, but not something that someone can overcome. Consider this though: God did not create hell and put us here for it. We disobeyed Him and were punished for it with all the problems in the world you see today.

  • It is not something that someone cannot overcome, rather.

  • When Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, all of creation suffered because of their actions. Disease, death, wickedness, perversions, pain, and hurt entered into the world because of sin. As for your questions, "What cruel creature would choose to reproduce itself in the knowledge of such a predicament?" The same creature that would reproduce with this knowledge is the same creature that is faithful in their service to the Lord.

  • If they are a diligent servant of God and obey His commands, then they will teach their children His laws and commands, and they will teach them His ways and the wisdom He has shared with us, and teach them the truth of His salvation for sinners. By doing this, they will be faithful servants because not only did they obey His command to multiply and to teach the good news, but they have made a new servant for the Lord. Someone new to go out and make disciples of all nations.

  • You are right, heterosexuality (procreative-competitiveness) is the cause of all creation to suffer. You merely prolong the inevitable and compound the misery of this world. I can just imagine how the cries of this planet echoes throughout the universe and just spoils what otherwise would have been nothing more than a spectacular fireworks display!

  • The cries of this planet echo throughout the universe? You do realize the earth is a rock, right? That it isn't a living, sentient being, right? Heterosexuality is a part of the creation, and the coming together of a man and a woman in marriage is beautiful. Without heterosexuality, there would be no living beings on this world. If God had made everything homosexual, the creation would not have made it past the first generation.

  • HAHAHAHAH this video is hillarious. About time atheist's like yourself started making ridicilous videos and having a good laugh.

    God bless you and I hope you find peace with the lord.

  • Yes, Jesus did condemn homosexuality in His Word. The good news is, there is hope for the homosexual; he has reason to believe there is hope for a brighter future. Paul states that some at Corinth had engaged in homosexual acts, but they had been washed, sanctified and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus (1 Cor. 6:9-11.) Repent of sin, and you are forgiven. Freedom and Joy are released when you are saved into the true saving knowledge of Christ.

    Love you friend.

  • Continued pt 3

    3. I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for he will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you (John 16:12-15.)

  • Continued pt 2

    2. For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words? (John 5:46-47.)

  • While it is true that there is no NT record of where Jesus explicitly stated that homosexuality is wrong, He did in fact condemn the behavior.

    Read:

    1. And He answered and said to them, Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh? (Matt. 19:4.)

    Continued...

  • "For there are some homosexual males, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some homosexual males, which were made homosexual of men: and there be homosexual males, which have made themselves homosexual for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." - Matt.19:12

  • God has been judging homosexuality for much longer than 2000 years ago. When the LORD visited Sodom, the men there tried to rape Him. "Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah-from the LORD out of the heavens" (Gen 19:24).

  • One word for this video... Blasphemy!

  • I'm not gonna watch this video, cause the question is stupid. Lemme make this real easy for you: jesus is not gay. Enjoy the rest of your life.

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    You are a mentally restarted hysterical Sodomite

  • jesus gay? hmm okay .. O_O

  • Lol is this a joke?

  • Wow the devil is messing with you head, REPENT!!!

  • Wow you have been brainwashed, THERAPY!!!

  • Your wrong, the world is getting worst, the bible prophecy's are accurate. 2,000 or so already have come to pass. It's a faith thing, I do believe there is evil that seeks to destroy all that is good. The bible is the word of god it's that simple. This video is a perfect example of one of the ways the devil messes with people heads. Just my opinion, I respect everyones opinion, just dont want you to burn in hell.

  • so stupied

  • IT's true, Jesus loved gobbling the knob. Look at his gay sandals!

  • When one is initiated into a secret society you are sworn to secrecy. The penalty for violating the secret oath is death. Think about it.

  • Mmm, conspiracy theories... yummy! Sure I believe that there are people that throughout history has conspired behind our backs, to steal all the prosper in this world. But it all still equates to the biology of life and does not explain anything. Even if there is alien life, what would that mean? That we are not alone? Or maybe give us a different perspective on god? But then again, that I already have...

  • The blessed God blinds men who are not thankful to Him for what they are and have (Rom 1:20-23). When they give more glory to the creature than to the Creator, He gives them over to a reprobate mind to do very inconvenient things like sodomy, abortion, child rebellion, rap, bestiality, Picasso, and same-sex marriages (Rom 1:24-32). Jehovah, the LORD, has committed Himself to destroy such men (I Cor 1:19-20; 3:19-20). please dant attack me thats the bible say that not me,thx

  • These are all wise words, written by wise men and of course it makes sense in the interest of the human species. The primary function of religion has always been to moderate the sexual behaviour of men. In a sense the bible(s) only deals with this one issue; The homosexual tendencies of males - their burning desire for one another! This fascinates me and makes me believe that it holds the key, to understanding everything that there is to understand.

  • Sorry if this question is offending you but, are you a homosexual yourself? Just curious.

    Anyways, you say that "the primary function of RELIGION has been been to moderate the sexual behavior of men." You seem to specifically direct your thesis on christianity only. Are there other religions that you believe serve only to remove homosexuality?

  • The fool cannot prove his theories. He calls hallucinations like evolution to be science, but he has never observed evolution, duplicated it in a laboratory, or adequately defined it. He is a fool! And his so-called science is merely a fable (I Tim 6:20-21). The believer knows the Bible is absolutely true internally and externally: but he cannot and will not prove it to the fool, because the fool is missing the essential factor - faith (II Thes 3:1-2).

  • I sense in homosexual behaviour the distinct desire of males to somehow reproduce with their own kind. Understanding the evolution of sexual reproduction, you would realize that males and females (the egg cell and the sperm cell) originally were not the same organism. Though they collaborated in the elaborated construct of the male and female body, essentially they are not the same, but this you already know. Crazy words, but still I can not help pondering this thought...

  • two sperm cells can't reproduce. :p nor can two egg cells reproduce.

    hello?

  • Natural men, who do not fear God, are fools (Ps 14:1; 36:1; 58:1). Their reasoning processes are perverse, for they reason in a circle from their own conceited ideas (Rom 1:20-23; I Tim 6:3-5,20-21). Spiritual men, who do fear God, are wise and reasonable, because their thoughts begin with faith in a Creator God (II Thess 3:2; Heb 11:3,6). The fool begins his thinking with thoughts of other fools, the believer with the words of God!

  • Albert Einstein said that everything can be explained with mathematics, but that it would make no sense... I always wondered what such an equation would look like, until I realized that it has already been written; A body persists its state of rest or of uniform motion unless acted upon by an external unbalanced force and then also, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Newton of course understanding this, being a homosexual male himself...