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  • @pythonjibraltar give me one human rights abuse in muslim ruled countries i have studed hr and theology

  • History of Israel does not start from 1922, you illiterate Jew hater !

  • @eddynatas0000 then when did it started in 1949

  • a disgusting film by a more disgusting ignorant fool!

  • Kudos to Ms. Roy!

  • If you try to destroy Israel you'll have to go through God first! Jesus is coming soon!

  • @mymusic777ify ya as if god willleave u for raping poor palastine

  • @alikool0001  so it's ok to rape and slaughter poor israelians?don't think so

  • @mymusic777ify ur saing as if hitler was raped and slaughter by jews ..................israelis anexed palastine palastine dint anex israel

  • @alikool0001 read the history from 1948! you've got it ALL wrong period.

  • @mymusic777ify 1948 ok what so ever but jews were bought to palastine in 1922 only read the hystory for ur self ......u zoinist supporter evenjesus dint support this kind of activities . u are mind washed by zoinist lobby in america

  • @alikool0001 really?like i said you've got it ALL wrong!mind washed speak for yourself!

  • @mymusic777ify read the hystory jews were broght to arab land afer hitlers regime kicked them out as they were citizens of no where ebgkabd brought them intarab land for refuge not for perminant stay but they were later with u.s support slaughaterd palastinians and anexed there land in 1922 there was no israel but jews were (parasites) were brought in

  • @alikool0001 and that gives you the right to mass murder,rape and kill like the nazis? no way! history goes further back than 1922! to the days when Moses died and Johua sat foot on the land of Israel. "arab land"is just a word! palestine has never and still is not a state or country but Israel is! Israel belong to the jews. If you have any questions ask God,the God of Abraham,Isak and Jacob.but you cannot understand what you don't believe.Stop making a fool of yourself!

  • @mymusic777ify first thing muslims are raped by jews in israel ,.,,,,, second thing is that this is not mytholgy class ,,,,stop picking shit from bibel ,,, bibel is the the book whit maximum scietific errors that is accepted by even cristians which was edited jews and greedy cristain priest brotheer i have studued bibel where else u just read bibel on sunday masses in which u sing more than aqire knowledge

  • @alikool0001 ask God not a mythologist!

  • @mymusic777ify  u speake more about bibel than hystory

  • @alikool0001 exactly! that's were history starts at the beginning of man!

  • @mymusic777ify bibe lis courupt that is a world renound fact even every litrate knows this

  • well done israel fuck the arabs

  • arundhati needs to be hanged..viva india..viva israel

  • @666IAMBACK And you sir need to shut up and listen!

  • @666IAMBACK Lets work together to bring the gospel of Jesus to THE FILTHY UGLY HINDU SCUM IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!

    3 states are majority Christian!

  • @KOZOG1 ur sponser us by 2025 will be a muslim majority if islam keeps spreading in u.s ,

    for ur information every 5th person on face of earth is a muslim even if we poo in israel it will flood

  • with so much change in the region around palestine i'm sure the zionists are trembling in their trousers. how long will it be before they become a liability to the united states??? the time is drawing closer when unconditional support for a pernicious process will dry up. the israeli bully might one day have to fight on a level playing field.

  • @pythonjibraltar

    Damn right! They outweigh the fuck out of anything Israel have done.

  • DON'T U KNOW HAMNEAT KARKARE LOST HIS LIFE FOR REVEALING THE HINDU EXTREMIST....

  • i am shocked to see .Are there any brave people in india who could risk there life to speak the truth?Arundhati Roy i am speechless .

  • @shahateri "Risk life to speak truth"???? India is not Islamic country but a liberal democracy however imperfect... Dude When was anybody was killed in India like Salman Taseer???

  • @anu123km DON'T U KNOW HAMNEAT KARKARE LOST HIS LIFE FOR REVEALING THE  BRUTAL HINDU EXTREMIST....THIS. not Islamic but a liberal democracy ,KILLED INDRA, HER TWO BEAUTIFUL SONS(RAJEEV AND SANJEE)...ABOVE ALL .....THE PERSON U CALL MAHATAMA GANDHI.....WAS KILLED ,FOR WHAT? U DON'T HAVE AN ANS... AND TODAY EVERY INDIAN IS SPITING ON RAHUL FOR SAYING HINDU EXTREMIST A BIGGER THREAT

  • Israeli immediate gains are going to soooooo short lived. The REAL fear of the Zionist state is that for every one Israeli child that is born, 8 Palestinian children are born. This is what Hammas is waiting for, another 20 years and Israel is going to cease to exist...what goes around, comes around.

  • Israel will rule whole palestine in near future, great Israelis we Indians are with you.

    Destroy whole left palestine and make a new vegas a new world , a world with peace and enjoyment.

  • @dilipcruz thank you and i cant wait till we bring the word of jesus to India and destroy those idol worshipping hindus along with the muslim

    we are with you india from America

  • @nice0071

    Good luck. India's recorded history goes well beyond moses.. let alone your recent jesus... All throughout, it has not only survived, but also preserved much of its heritage and culture. After being one of the most successful economies for the majority of civilized human existence, India is slowly beginning to assert itself again.

    The mohammedians have been threatening to destroy India for a long time.. now the jesus pimps want to join the camp... bring it on.

  • @nice0071 we already have 3 states you fucking hindu piss drinker we are with you LET ME HEAR YOU YOU FUCKING HINDU LET ME HEAR YOU HAHHAHAHAHHAHA WE HAVE MADE 3 STATE CHRISTAIN MAJORITY STATE HOW MANY MONKEY STATE HAVE YOU MAKE YOU IDOL WORSHIPPING SON OF A COCKROACH I AM GOING TO GO TO THE LOCAL RESTURANT AND ORDER BEEF TO MAKE SURE THOSE COWS KNOW THEY ARE HEAR AS FOOD INDIANS WE ARE WITH YOU IN THE NAME OF THE LORD
  • Israel will rule whole palestine in near future, great Israelis we Indians are with you.

  • I agree with most of what she said, but in the interest of being critical:

    Missiles are fired at Israel on almost a daily basis. It used to be multiple times a day. If the Palestinians stopped attacking, the war would be over. Israel's attmittedly terrible and inhumane tactics, which hurt innocent people, are a response, not an attack.

    She also curiously started in 1917, which is not when the conflict started. It started in the late 1800s with the influx of Jewish immigrants to Palestine.

  • Long Live Israel...Israel belongs to the jews and always will..pali ppl think they can just have land because they say so well wake up loosers...since when did the pali ppl have land anyways they think they own Israel well what were their borders who founded it what was their capital what were their major cities..what consitituted the basis of it ecomomy...nothing..the pali ppl never had a country that belong to them..Israel has always and will always belong to the jews

  • @777sandyyy Kind of like how europeans killed off the Native Americans?

  • @carmodifire palestainains are only squatters...they are arab throw backs from different countries who squattered in israel and thought they then owned it.

  • @777sandyyy And the Israelis? They were there...but 2000 years ago. It's OK for them to come and say, 'sorry, God gave me this, get out. Really, look, the Bible says!'? I think not. Palestinians lived there until teh Israeli's came, backed by teh UN. And the arabs didn't agree to it, they forced the Jews onto them.

  • @carmodifire palestainians are rejected arabs from other countries who squattered in israel...jews have always had israel......seen that the palli are just squatters i think israel has the choice to run the country how they see fit

  • @777sandyyy OK, let's say they are Arab leftovers. The Jews were there, but 2000 years ago. White Americans are leftovers from Europe, should we let the Native Americans kick everyone out? The Jews have NOT always had Israel. It is precious to them, yes, but they never have 'always' had Israel. The notion that they were given Israel by God is a ridiculous argument in the 21st century.

  • @carmodifire just because u don;t belive in God does not make the bible wrong....look u want to not belive in Christ and go to hell fine....but it DOES say it in the bible and what God gives to someone he does not take back...maybe the jews have lost Israel thru wars in past ...thing is they have it again now and it will stay with them...palli have never owned it

  • @777sandyyy Just because the Bible says something, doesn't mean everyone has to believe it. What you are saying is that the Bible's principles should be imposed on others. It is religion-based. I mean, if we go by the Bible, we can make out with little boys...

  • @carmodifire thats what i mean..bible is truth yet u CHOOSE not to belive which is ur option..however bible still says it so because u CHOOSE not to belive don;t mean that it is not true.,...thats ur choice...plus what the crap with little boys..nothing like that in there

  • @777sandyyy But I say Qu'ran is the truth. Imposing your religion/beliefs on others makes you no better than the terrorists killing in the name of Allah, or the gov. making war in the name of stable 'democracy'. Look up the debate of Ahmad Deedat, "Is the Bible the word of god?" The bible has changed so much, even Christan scholars say that Jesus was NOT the begotten son of God. You can use simple deduction. Do a little research on the history of the Bible. Keep your mind open, don't be dogmatic

  • @carmodifire listen there is only ONE truth ONE true God....means others are wrong..if u wnat to beleive in allah (the devil) go ahead and then enjoy what allah brings u which is hell at the end of time....no one is forcing u it is ur own choice.....but I will stand against islam all the days of my life here on earth because allah is sending muslims to hell and anyone else who follows

  • @777sandyyy Ha! Christians believe in 3 true gods, Muslims in 1 true god. And btw, 'allah' means god- even foreign jews and christians use it. If you can prove to me that Christianity is right, I'll listen to you. But so far, all you have said is dogmatic dogma.

  • @carmodifire u have no idea about Christainity at all....it says not to throw pearls before swine...so i won;t....go figure that out....BTW allah does not mean god so ur wrong there too....allah is a devil u can tell by the message in the koran he is a devil..have some spiritual insight plz..u make a fool of urself

  • @777sandyyy Allah DOES mean God, its arabic. If Qu'ran was evil, it would say to do evil things, but doesn't. But look at the thing the Christian Church did- Inquisition, Crusades, etc. Christians have killed more people than Muslims. FACT. And how am I making a fool of myself? You don't even know what "Allah" means. Qu'ran tells people to feed the poor, help those who cannot help themselves, etc. How can that be from the devil?

  • @carmodifire hahahahahaha i have NEVER seen muzzies feed the poor...man u have lost the plot totally...christains do so much good work ARIOUND the world....yet muzzies kill ppl daily..u are so fooled my the lies in ur own mind....that is so ,muzzie to make up what u just said

  • @777sandyyy Saudi Arabia gives 15% of its GDP to poor countries. Although, the laws are not very Islamic. America has killed tons of civilians, more than all the Muslim countries combined. And you still didn't answer my question.

  • @carmodifire LOL ohhhh my wow 15% gee wonder don;t cease....so that it....u nned to watch christain television and see what christains do..ppl give their lives for the sake of the gospel doing good for other ppl not just money hoever christainty spends 95% on the poor the rest is running the church.....if u want talk about killing take a look at muslims u are so closed minded....look at 9/11......americains have the right to kill.....u need to wake up...western world will never accept the muslim

  • @carmodifire

    yup.. 15% in he form of big mosques to create more pedophile followers in that country.

    The pedophile followers have not killed people?? LOL.... for the past 1400+ years, you pedophile followers have been invading, murdering, wiping out whole civilizations and cultures and replacing it with closed minded barbarics... just like your pedophile prophet of doom.

  • @BestestMoron typical ignorant retard...nothing to see here....

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  • @BestestMoron Last time i checked its you christians who are raping childern everyday little babies but your book is full of it sleeping with your own daughters prostitution rape, and pillage at jabesh-gilead (judges 21:10-24 your the paedophile you child molesters you cant face facts let see on the news who the talk about and its christians fucking babies! unless of course your fucking each other fags!

    look at urself b4 u accuse others oh and sex with ur own mother is in ur bible too sick!

  • @key56eco

    next time, check outside your book of doom created by your pedophile false prophet... the child rapist who married his own daughter in law :-D

  • @BestestMoron IN THE BIBLE YOU HAVE INCEST AND YOUR CHRISTIANS TO THIS DAY FUCKING LITTLE BABIES

    ALL THE TIME ON THE NEWS

    YOU CANT FACE FACTS PEDO

    TYPE PAEDOPHILE AND CHRISTIANITY WILL COME UP

    WHO DO WE SEE ON THE NEWS CHRISTIAN CAUGHT RAPING CHILD

    ITS ALWAYS ON THE NEWS FAG!

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  • @BestestMoron YOUR BOOK OF EVIL! AKA BIBLE! 21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.

    Deuteronomy 2:- 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:

    And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.

  • @BestestMoron Genesis 19:30-38 (King James Version) 30And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. 31And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: 32Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

  • @BestestMoron PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSE SHOULD NOT THROW STONE

    YOUR BOOK OF DOOM, EVIL, KILLING OF BABIES, INCEST, CHILD RAPE, EVEN KILLING ANIMALS!

    COME BACK SOON SO I MAY TEACH YOU MORE ABOUT YOUR EVIL BOOK AKA BIBLE FAG!

  • @BestestMoron In Genesis 9:20-27, Ham sees his father Noah's nakedness. The Talmud suggests that Ham may have sodomized Noah (Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 70a).

    GAY FUCKING, INCEST, RAPING YOUR OWN MUMMY, KILLING BABIES AND THE ANIMALS TOO

    YOU BOOK OF DOOM IS VERY IN LIGHTING!

    In Genesis 38, Judah, the fourth son of Jacob, mistakes his daughter-in-law Tamar for a prostitute, and has sex with her

    PAYING FOR SEX IN YOUR BOOK OF DOOM!

    MUST B THE REASON WHY YOUR PORN INDUSTRY IS STRONG!

  • @BestestMoron Books of Samuel, Amnon, King David's eldest son and heir to the throne, rapes his beautiful sister Tamar

    NOW BITCH OWN SISTER SICK, PERVERTED IN YOUR BOOK OF DOOM AKA THE BIBLE!

    LOOK AND HAVE ANOTHER LOOK AT REALITY

    DO NOT THROW STONES WHEN YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE AND WHEN YOU

    SKULL FUCKING YOUR OWN MOTHER AND THEN COMPLAIN THE NEXT MANS WIFE IS TOO YOUNG!

    THANK YOU COME AGAIN!

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  • muslims in very near future will make new big records in killing humans.

  • shoot the bitch from the world....

  • Stones vs Guns

    Palestinian Vs Israeli I stand 4 Palestinian people

    I love Palestinian people

  • ISRAEL rocks we(hindhustanis) love u

  • i respect u arundhati...every word u speak is truth

  • Arandarati Roy should consider that in 1939 the British reversed the balfour declaration and replaced it with the "white paper", forbidding Jewish immigration, and that for the next 9 years the Zionists fought an anti-colonial war against the British imperial regime...also that the British brutally attacked ships carrying refugees and put hundreds of refugees behind bars without trial whose only crime was trying to escape a genocide

  • @TheTollundWoman

    so her argument that israel is a creation of the british empire is completely inaccurate. the british abstained in the UN partition plan vote and actually provided weapons and training to the Arab legion; they wanted Israel to be defeated so they could continue their domination of the middle east.

  • @TheTollundWoman

    Creating the state of Israel was part of their domination to the middle east. Both parties, the Brits and the Zionists were part of the colonization, and the second is a settler style. while the genocide is going in Europe all countries closed their doors to Jews, including Britain, US, Canada! Why? Ask the Zionists!!

    Meanwhile they pushed for the migration, and in some cases terrorized Jewish communities.

    Do you know Gurion's quote about all or half of "children of Israel"?

  • @TheTollundWoman , bitch i told you that you were a disgrace on womenhood, dont you understand...dont speak anything...No one considers you an women, seriously..

    you are a disgrace...same holds for all those in your cult...sory race oh sorry --what ya call them....The SATANIC blood in this world..you know who they are.. yor blood is a lie..

    hey seriously, is your blood RED?..i suppose, it would be Black, just like any --ish blood .

  • she is media attention whore , she has tendency to denounce democracies and support terrorism just ignore her. Its all about money for her if you gave her money she may denounce mother terresa also..........................­..

  • SLAMMIN'!!!!!!!!!!!!! RESPECT!!!

  • Resistance forever! Solidarity and love from the west, FREE PALESTINE!

  • FREE PALESTINE! Solidarity and love, Resistance forever!

  • nice vid

  • This is a harsh reality, people need to open their eye's up to!

    free palestine

  • @a4mohit  which part is a lie? she is only stating the facts!

  • @NeoTRP a person intellect cant be judged by their looks and background ,for god sake ,she is just expressing her views and is very mature about them unlike a racist posting sick comments on you tube

  • @NeoTRP if nobody cared about a battered bunch in nazi germany you bitches wouldn't be around to bully helpless people. the Palestinians have suffered for 60 years, now it's time the world took notice.

  • Why don't you bitches drive another plane into a tower full of innocent civilians who had nothing to do with American Foreign Policy? How about more sucide bombs? No one gives shit about dead muslims for OBVIOUS reasons. Fuck off and die.

  • @NeoTRP wasn't too long ago that no one gave a shit about dead jews knucklehead!!! were they in death camps for OBVIOUS reasons????? hmmmm....... i wonder??!

  • Islam is not a religion that should be respected. Islam should be obliterated once and for all. Islam and Allah ARE ILLUSIONS. The only thing Islam is doing is increasing the level of body bags. The world is taking notice.....Switzerland, France are all taking steps to decimate Islam. I am an Asian, and I am proud to say I hate Islam.

  • @NeoTRP nazi germany fell, the east block fell, apartheid fell and zionism will fall as well. pretty much all RELIGIONS are ILLUSIONS and your pride in hating islam is a reflection of your ignorance when it comes to the middle east. what happens to somebody in the morning might very well happen to you in the afternoon and it is up to rational folk to put an end to fascism and the persecution of the poor. in fact it's called BULLYING, that ISRAEL of all countries should be aware of.

  • Jeez, spare me the pseudo-liberal propaganda. The poor deserve to be poor, that's why they are poor. The poor has the largest amount of criminality, when compared to 'white-collar' crime. Forgive me, Zionism will NOT fall. That's one thing I am sure of. Al-Quada has given a reason for all 'rational folk' to hate Islam, and Islam will soon fall.

  • @NeoTRP based on the 'poor deserve to be be poor' it seems quite rational to assume that the jews in nazi germany deserved their plight. israel will never win a fair fight. a swastika would better represent this disease. 

  • Every part is a lie. She is taking her notes from Noam Chomsky.

  • @zeeshank16

    Most of these are facts, a lot of them are opinions designed to tug at your heartstrings.

    And her facts are only ones carefully chosen to work in the Palestinians favour.

    She doesn't mention that the Jews accepted the UN partition plan but the Palestinians didnt. THEY started the '48 war and lost. They ALSO started the '67 war along with all the other nations on Israels borders. And lost. I've been to the West Bank and she's heavily exaggerating. LEFTIST PROPAGANDA is all this is.

  • very good video, and well explained.

  • Suzanna Arundhati Roy sucks ..

  • Music is very disturbing, I can't understand a thing of what she is saying...stupid video, very unprofessional

  • @Tamouree I loved it and I found the music went well very nicely with the video.

  • solution; stop violence on both sides and live and let others live by both sides

    stop terrorism on both sides.. stop plans against each-other.. and live together like in Untied states all cultures live together in relative peace in their neighborhood ..stop mothers who send their kinds to be martyred .. control your angers and don't allow others to stamp a bomb on your belt.. stop being naive there are no paradise for killers .. even your enemy

  • I love Arundati Roy. She always bring us truth.

    Rashid Khalidi, Columbia U prof, in his book, Iron Cage, has done the research to show us that things were fine between Jews and Palestinians when the Ottoman Empire ended. If only Britain had not sent the trojan horse of zionism, Palestine was ready for nationhood after WW1. Britain taught the zionist trojan horse everything about ethnic cleansing, land stealing, bombing civilians, occupation, police state.

  • What a shame it is, even after having watched this video, you need to ask silly questions like this.

  • i don't agree with almost nothing what she says on anything but many people like yourself support it. i have my reasons and you have yours.

  • Yessir its called thickness of mind. So thick you can slice it with a knife. These people should be locked into a room and made to watch this video 1000 times. .

  • World cannot have PEACE till ISREAL terrorist exist. World should give Palestinian their Land and isreal should wiped out.

    The Palestinian are freedom fighter

  • thanks for posting.

  • amazing vid...

  • Here are the words of a Bushman of Southern Africa. Once Bushmen were the masters of that land. Now they are on the verge of total extinction.

    "Pity us, poor Bushmen. Pity us who have so many problems facing us in this world down here. We Bushmen, we were the first people here, so how come we are the last in line to get anything? When people see we are a gentle people, they just walk on us.

    (cont.)

  • (cont. quote from National Geographic)

    "When people see we are a gentle people, they just walk on us. We have to find the strength to make a place for ourselves in this world. Otherwise there soon will be no more of us. We are all alone. And so will be our memories." (From National Geographic.)

    Yes, gentle people will be walked on. It's more than just human nature. It's the law of the universe.

    (cont.)

  • Arab Muslims know this more than any other people in the world. Arab Muslims have been walking on people since 628. All this crap about "suffering Palestinians" is just pretence to justify vilification of Jews.

    The bully pretends he is a warrior. The persecutor pretends he is the persecuted.

    I am told that "A true Jew should be a decent and goodly person."

    (cont.)

  • I am told that "A true Jew should be a decent and goodly person."

    Well, we've been decent and goodly people for almost 2000 years, And all we ever got for it was massacres, expulsions, murder, torture, burnings, slaughter, rapes, pogroms, and finally the Holocaust..

    No. if the only way to survive is to be the toughest mother, we'll be the thoughest mothers.

    (cont.)

  • Jews who fought in the War for Independence (1848-49) knew that. Somehow it became forgotten, which is why everyone's harping about nonexistent "Israeli attrocities" without ever cheking whether there's any truth to them.

    I remember how Israel was respected before 1992, when "peace process" started. The more Israelis bent backwards to accomodate growing Arab apetites, the more the whole world blamed and hated Israel.

    (cont.)

  • Finally, today Israelis are beginning to learn.

    A man to a man is worse than a wolf. A wolf may kill, but will not deceive. People do.

    The ones who demand Jews to be decent and goodly forgive others when they're anything but, as long as their evila dn attrocities are directed at Jews. This is how it was for 2000 years, and this is how it still is.

    Well, I'm sick'n tired of it all.

  • "since 628"

    God, you're insane. You are treating an entire people as a monolith and holding people accountable for things their ancestors did thousands of years ago. Total bullshit.

    The Palestinians ARE victims. There could be no Jewish State without the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in 48'.

    All this garbage about terrorism and radical Islam is a diversion to face the fact that Israel was born in sin like every other colonial-settler State. But we're not living in the 1500s anymore.

  • Right. And you are not treating the entire 6 million Jews of Israel as a monolith? And you are not holding them accountable for things their ancestors did?

    If Arab Muslims were to stop walking on people today, I'd galdly let go of the past. Unfortunately, they haven't.

    We are in the 1500s, or any other time in history. Times don't change, neither does human nature.

    Israel was born like any country was born.

    (cont.)

  • Certainly the Zionists R using that dead scripture as a playbook for genocide, slaughtering of women and children. They certainly have not evolved since the age of the Ram.

  • What scripture? Did I mention any scripture anywhere? I have no idea who is Ram.

    Right! Genocide, slaughter of women and children, everything and a kitchen sink.

    All lies, but who cares. Anything to throw at Jews.

    Keep lying, baby.

  • The reason why they blow the Rams horn is an ancient trite Astrological era, as Christ is w Pisces and the next era Aquarius if U R willing to believe that Biblico-Zodiac BS! The Bible is filled w poor moral judgment, murder, genocide etc It is a shit playbook that promotes irrational entitlements.

  • I have my disagreements with the Bible, but describing it the way you do is arrogant and disgusting. You are only diminishing yourself.

    Books like these are to be dwelled on for entire lifetime. How many times what I though was stupid or wrong turned out to be right, and it was I who'd been stupid or wrong

    Aquarius and Pisces are from Greece. They are later additions, not in the Jewish Bible. Blowing ram's horn is far more ancient

    Anyway, Zionism has excellent non-religious foundation

  • Mazzarof? is Hebrew for the Zodiac.

  • Actually it's galgal hamazalot (lit. "wheel of constellations").

    So what?

  • Zionism has excellent non-religious foundation:

    Jewish people are human beings. And are entitled to the same rights other humans are: life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and normal human dignity. Beginning with right to life.

    And if that right cannot be guaranteed by other countries (and we have 2000 years of monstrous persecution to prove that), then we shall create our own.

    (cont.)

  • And we have created it. I've been there. It's not perfect, but it's a great little country, where over 7 million people live, 6 million of them - Jews, almost all of whom descend from people who fled for their lives from some place or other.

    And what Arundhati Roy or Amira Hass or Norman Finkelstein say are lies and garbage, a new modification of the same old hatred. I've been to Israel (including territories) twice, I've studied it for many years, I know. It's not how it's presented.

  • It looks to me like it's dying to be a Theocracy. And yes they R a wonderful people no doubt as are the Persecuted Palestinians. You just have to be fair with them, stop stealing their land and the ethnic cleansing got to stop. You do not win if you adopt the characteristics of your enemy.

  • It's not a theocracy, and not dying to be one. Nobody's stealing Palestinian land. There is no ethnic cleansing. These are all libels, like the old "Jews drink blood of babies" libel.

    Persecuted Palestinians are not that wonderful. At least many of them are not.

    On Oct. 12, 2000 two Israeli soldiers took a wrong turn and ended up in Ramallah. They were chased by a mob and took refuge in a Palestinian police station. The mob surrounded the station and threatened to set it on fire. (cont.)

  • The two Jews were caught, killed, mutilated. Their bodies were thrown out of the window. One of the mutilators then appeared in the window and showed his hands full of blood of his victims. The mob cheered. The mob below tore soldiers' bodies into pieces, took out hearts and guts and paraded with them all over central Ramallah.

    The gesture of showing one's hands with blood of Jews on them has since become a ritual.

    (cont.)

  • I have a photo of a little girl doing it. The 'blood' is paint, but the gesture is real: the girl promises to cover her hands with Jewish blood when she grows up. And she means it

    In 2004 in Gaza, Israeli armed troop carrier was blown up. Palestinian "freedom fighters" got to it in an ambulance they stole from the UN, dismembered the bodies of soldiers and took them away. They played soccer with a human head. Later dismembered bodies and one severed human head were shown on al-Jazeera

    (cont)

  • Nothing really new. Here's what Assam Pasha, Secretary General for the Arab League, said on May 15, 1948, as Arab armies prepared to attack newly born Israel

    "This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades"

    and

    "[There are] three characteristics of the future war; the belief in glorious death as a road to paradise, the opportunities of lust and the [Arab] love of slaughter for its own sake"

    (cont)

  • Here is what happened in Hebron in 1929

    1929 Memorandum presented to the British high commissioner by Hebron's community:

    "Rabbis, Meir Kastel, 68 years old, and Tzvi Drabkin, 70 years old, and five other young men were robbed, castrated, tortured and murdered. Baker, Noah Immerman was roasted alive on an oven, Rabbi Ya'akov Orlanski HaCohen was found praying they took his brain from his skull and his wife's intestines were crushed.

    (cont.)

  • (cont. 1929 memorandum)

    "Pharmacist Ben-Tzion Gershon, lame, unable to move, who served in Hebron for 40 years, kindly assisting many Arabs, they cut off his nose and fingers, killed him, raped his daughter and murdered her with awful torture. The teacher Dubkinov and Yitzhak Abushdid were strangled with a rope. Six synagogues including 64 Torah scrolls, many of them ancient, from the Spanish exile, all were stolen and desecrated"

    (cont.)

  • In response to this, the remainder of the community was expelled 'for their own safety,' and the murderers inherited their property.

    Sara Hamburger, one of the few Jews who survived the 1929 Hebron Massacre, was recently murdered in Jerusalem by an Arab.

    In addition, you should look up Damascus Blood Libel (1840), shootings in Jaffa (1909), Nebi Musa riots (1920), Jaffa riots (1921), Safed massacre (1929), (cont.)

  • the Great Arab Revolt (1936-39), Tiberias Massacre (1938), Hajj Amin al-Husseini (500,000 Jewish victims), Farhud massacre (1941), fedayeen (1950s-60s), murder of Bobby Kennedy (1968), school bus attack (1970), hijacking and blowing up airplanes in Zarqa (1970), Palestinians in Lebanese civil war (1970-1983), Lod Airport Massacre (1972), Kiryat Shmona massacre (1974), Ma'alot school massacre (1974), Entebbe hijacking (1976), Munich olympics massacre (1972), (cont.)

  • bus hijacking (1978), shelling of northern Israel (1982), Achille Lauro hijacking and murder (1985), first intifada (1987), bus bombings, attacks on Jewish centers in Argentina, suicide bombings (1992-present), al-Aqsa intifada (2000-present), celebrations of 9/11 attacks (2001), Hamas takeover of Gaza (2007).

    These are just the major events. Arabs have been killing Jews since at least Roman times. Men, women, children, elderly. (cont.)

  • Cutting off heads, disemboweling, castrating, you name it. And it was always OK and acceptable. But let Jews try to defend themselves, and the world raises a ruckus: Jews are committing genocide, holocaust in the Holy Land, everything and a kitchen sink.

    The real reason for all this ruckus is that "kikes with guns" - Jews who defend themselves are a violation of the key point of the European and Islamic power structure: that Jews belong in the toilet of nations, (cont.)

  • that Jews belong in the toilet of nations, where anyone can do to them whatever he pleases, for whatever reason, or no reason at all. The real reason for "Palestinian," Arab, Muslim, and BY FAR NOT ONLY THEIR hatred and violence is that the mere existence of Israel has turned their "normal" order of things upside down. It is a scream, "GET BACK TO YOUR GHETTOES AND MELLAHS! GET BACK TO YOUR PLACE IN THE TOILET OF NATIONS!"

    No, thanks.

  • Who says that Jews drink blood of babies? You might want to consider why some Palestinians R that extreme! You walk all over them and kill enough of them they R going to get extreme and death of Palestinians by far outnumber Israelis! I read Robert Fisk and he sees problems on both sides and the US subsidizes Israel to the tune of 1 million dollars a day.

  • Who says that Jews drink blood of babies?

    From article "The Plague of Islamic Anti-semitism" by Gerald Steinberg:

    "Al-Akhbar, a popular government-owned Cairo daily, often promotes sales through lurid anti-Semitism based on the theme of the blood libel, taken directly from the Christian version. According to Al-Akhbar 'the Talmud. determines that the 'matzahs' of Atonement Day must be kneaded 'with blood' from a non-Jew. The preference is for the blood of youths after raping them!

    (cont.)

  • (cont. from Steinberg's article)

    "Rabbi Moshe Abu Al-Afiah revealed this during the investigation of the disappearance of Father Toma in the Jewish quarter of Damascus in 1840.' Arabs are urged to act "so that the day won't come when big bottles will be filled with Arab blood."

    "Recently Syria's Foreign Minister Mustafa Talas has written a book on the Damascus Blood Libel of 1840, in which he claims that Jews kill Christians to obtain their blood for Passover.

    (cont.)

  • (cont. from Steinberg's article)

    "Not only was there no outcry from any country, but Talas was awarded a doctorate degree in History by the Sorbonne University (France).

    A tele-drama based on this book was produced in Egypt by Mahmoud Al-Said Al-Kurdi. The tele-drama is promoted as "the Arab answer to Schindler's List."

    (end of article quote)

    (cont.)

  • From article "'Blood Libel' - alive and well" by Joseph Farrah:

    "On Oct. 24, [2000] the Palestinian Liberation Army Mufti, Sheikh Col. Nader Al-Tamini, said in a television debate on the Qatari Arabic cable news channel Al-Jazeera that there can be no peace with the Jews because they suck and use the blood of Arabs on the holidays of Passover and Purim.

    (cont.)

  • (cont. from Farrah's article)

    "Just four days later, the official Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram published a full-page article by columnist Adel Hamooda titled, 'A Jewish Matzoh Made from Arab Blood.' It retold the infamous blood libel story of 1840 in great detail, recounting it as a documented historical fact. The author went on to explain that the Jews' 'bestial drive' to add the blood of non-Jews to matzoh is at the root of the violence and killing of Arab children in Israel today

    (cont)

  • (cont. from Farrah's article)

    "Arab children, he wrote, are often found torn to pieces without a single drop of blood in their bodies. 'The most reasonable explanation is that the blood was taken to be kneaded into the dough of extremist Jews to be used in Matzohs to be devoured during Passover,' he wrote""

    (end of article quote)

    (cont)

  • But of course you don't say things like this. Instead you claim Jews slaughter Palestinians, massacre them, steal their land, ethnicly cleanse them, etc.

    So you have a modern version of the blood libel. So? It's still a lie and a libel. It's goal is still the same: to provide a justification for terror, slaughter, massacres, etc.

  • Kurtlane. This is such craziness, I heard of demonizing the enemy, as the military and media does to a great extent but that is ridiculous! The US media does not even cover issues of the middle east or anywhere for that matter unless it is a natural disaster. I've never heard or seen anything like his on Al Jazeera though so it must be like our Reich Wing nut radio and TV stations.

  • I am sorry, but Mustafa Talas is Syria's Foreign Minister, hardly a minor figure. Al-Akhbar and Al-Ahram are Egypt's largest papers.

    This is just a tiny part of stuff fed to Arab population in most Arab countries every day. Same in Iran. Of course it's not on English edition of al-Jazeera, and since you don't speak Arabic or Persian, you don't know about it.

    But don't worry, it's coming. Just days ago, Swedish paper Aftonbladet claimed IDF soldiers were harvesting organs from Palestinians

  • If you don't believe me, find and read articles "The Plague of Islamic Anti-semitism" by Gerald M. Steinberg and "'Blood Libel' - alive and well" by Joseph Farrah.

    You can also watch MEMRI, MEMRITV and PMW (Palestinian Media Watch), which monitor Middle Eastern media.

  • Why some Palestinians are that extreme?

    Actually. many of them are not Palestinians. Mustafa Talas is not, he's a Syrian Foreign Minister. What evil did Jews ever do to him? Mahmoud Al-Said Al-Kurdi is an Egyptian of Kurdish descent. Al-Akhbar is an Egyptian paper, so is Al-Ahram.

    Whether Palestinian or not, the reasons are the same ones Nazis used to spread their libels, or French consul Ratti Menton and Turkish governor Sherif Pasha used to spread the blood libel in 1840.

    (cont.)

  • Or when Chmielnickis Ukrainian Cossacks murdered over a million Jews, or Spanish Inquisition burned Jews alive, or when Idris I wiped out whole communities of Moroccan Jews, or...

    Its the same old ugly reasons:

    (cont.)

  • "I believe that I understand Anti-Semitism [i.e. Jew-hatred], which is really a highly complex movement. ... I believe that I can see what elements there are in it of vulgar sport, of common trade jealousy, of inherited prejudice, of religious intolerance, and also of pretended self-defense."

    - Theodor Herzl. The Jewish State.

    (cont.)

  • "[There are] three characteristics of the future war; the belief in glorious death as a road to paradise, the opportunities of lust and the [Arab] love of slaughter for its own sake" - Azzam Pasha, the first Secretary General for the Arab League, May 15, 1948

    (cont.)

  • In other words, the reasons are lust for blood, lust for money and things, lust for women to rape, prejudice, hatred, self-righteousness, arrogance, envy, and also the two somewhat strange things: pretended self-defense and belief in glorious death as a road to paradise.

    The same old ugly obvious reasons. Satanic stuff, what can I say.

  • I know, I'm supposed to say it's the Jews' fault. It's a simple paradigm:

    If something is done to Jews -> blame the Jews, say "It's the Jews' own fault, Jews made them angry"

    If Jews do something to someone, offensively or defensively -> blame the Jews, call them occupiers, killers, colonialists, violators, Nazis, etc, etc.

    Either way, blame the Jews.

    Simple, but phony.

  • death of Palestinians by far outnumber Israelis

    True. And what does this mean?

    I remember how in 2000, when this war (intifada) started, it was the other way around. Almost every day there was a terror attack, Jews died, and Shimon Peres would come on TV and say, "We have to make extra effort for peace. There will be no retaliation." Did anyone notice? Did anyone support Israelis? Not at all. It was the same barrage dumped on the same target.

    (cont.)