Life after death, a Reality? Near death experiences, NDE - Fact or Fiction? Fact or Delusion? 2 / 5

[CosmicFork]

From watching this video, I just want to say, that I'm glad that I found out that Ronald Reagan really went to Hell. Because he deserved to, for destroying the Unions for working people.

[Cifidirlord]

Bible is tha living word of God n heaven is real n also hell is real.walk right b4 God n men n u wil in heaven 1 day n viceversa of that is hell!

[captaincommando2]

i dont fancy it fellow dudes

[captaincommando2]

sounds not very nice. big problem is that the majority of people are going there!

[CosmicFork]

From watching this video, I just want to say, that I'm glad that I found out that Ronald Reagan really went to Hell. Because he deserved to, for destroying the unions for working people.

[4343mcren]

@CosmicFork Ahhhhh, Did Ron hurt your feelings slappy? Did you cry Cosmo? Sounds more like it's given you an excuse to blame someone else for your short comings? Have some fucking respect for a man who accomplished more while sleeping, than you will your entire life. Hitler's in hell and would have had you shot for writing that post about him. Mr. Reagan is tearing down walls in heaven and if your a good boy, you might even get to meet him. Nice Post Clown!!! FRIENDS???

[CosmicFork]

@4343mcren GO FUCK YOURSELF, RIGHT-WING, DOUCHEBAG!!!

[CosmicFork]

@4343mcren is a Pussy-Ass Bitch, that doesn't even have a Channel Page! Punk-Ass Coward!!

[gamecollect101]

@k0smon, I'd say otherwise, not being much a follower of the Bible a few months back I was having a terrible day and finally asked "God what do you want me to do?"....not 5 seconds later I heard a thump at my half open bedroom door, when I checked it was the Holy Bible right at my door..I still have no LOGICAL explanation till this day how that even happened, had to be teleported as ridiculous as that sounds. No one at the house at the time.

[Fargarsh08]

we were born into earth, i wouldnt be surprised if we die into heaven or hell.

[barloISbarlo]

humans have interesting imagination. ahah "when we die, we go through..." like he did it many times before. extreme psychological states lead to wonderful imaginations. even if u r not near death

[Ducknbob8]

how can there be scientific (evidence) of a spiritual reality????? science is ignorant of things of the spirit as much so as a dove knows how to swim like a fish........or a garbage man knows about aeronautics.....two totally different realms of awareness.....and thats by no means downing the world of science...i'm just saying people need to stop looking to other people (scientists) for spiritual answers... and look to god who is SPIRIT go to the source he is love.....

[Ducknbob8]

how can there be scientific (evidence) of a spiritual reality????? science is ignorant of things of the spirit as much so as a dove knows how to swim like a fish........

[1011maximiliano]

haha ronald reagan went to hell

[guyNbluejeans]

I almost went to hell, but Jesus saved me!

[psamacify]

Re: meduzaduza's comment.

You cannt be an 'a'theist and believe in some sort of after life. An after life is a strictly theistic concept.

[k0smon]

@psamacify ::: Beg to differ. The afterlife is there just as this life is here, theism or not. Religion is not necessary in the next life.

[lococavasa]

There is only 1 objective i can really think of. People who say they visited hell. What about judgement day. Is it not true that no one will go intell after judgement day? Are am i missdirected. Is that not what is written in the bible? Looks like i need to go read the bible to find out for sure for myself. If so none the less then what these people have seen would not be the christian hell yet in context they draw it out as if it was.

[k0smon]

@lococavasa ::: Don't make the mistake of confusing the bible with facts. Experience is worth much more than the words from a 2000 year old book. The bible is not 'the word of God'. See Bart Ehrman's book "Jesus, Interrupted".

[lococavasa]

@k0smon I agree for the most part no i am not christian why because i do not pretend to have the answers this is why i asked open questions i will look into that book. I do believe that for people to of had divine visions sent from god seems ludicrous. Well remember the bible is the inspired key word inspired word of god. If i knew the christian hell was a lie i would be more creative i think religion stops alternative thinking therefore blocks a persons imagination.

[meduzaduza]

I am an atheist, I believe in some form of further existence after death but strongly disagree with catholic division of this existence in heaven and hell. For me those are just religious, philosophical concepts that help us to visualise good and evil and also for church its a good way to scare us. This documentary is either another evidence of how the church propaganda works or the people telling the stories about hell watched to much horrors. No matter what the truth is, for me its a crap.

[MolecularMoonlight]

The air is full of sulfur and he "can't breathe"... but he is dead? No lungs in use. So, he can breathe in life after death just not in life in the ER? This is not a documentary! Who are these people? Hardly an introduction to them other than a name! If anyone is interested in good documentary's from an unbiased source... keep looking. I like, "Something Unknown Is Doing We Don't Know What" and "What the Bleep Do We Know" as well as "The Living Matrix" doc's, personally. They cover many subjects

[sassysandy1000]

You'll change your mind when you die, I pray you'll be ready, for Heaven

[Kenshiroit]

the only documentarys worth to watch are the non-religious ones, the rest is bullshit!

[FTales77]

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[daro2096]

Lazarus was in torments? What Bible is he reading?

[daro2096]

True every knee shall bow. What did Paul mean by those being under the earth? Well he meant dead people who are in the grave waiting for the resurrection who when they are brought up at the second resurrection will bow the knee to Jesus Christ.

Come on, this is too simple a child could understand it.

[daro2096]

Sheol is the grave or graveyard. Korah and his band were buried alive is what the Bible is saying.

Samuel was not brought up from Sheol. Saul never who it was, the witch said I see an old man and Saul says its Samuel. He never saw Samuel but he preceived it was Samuel.

Think about it. Saul goes to a witch, something which the Bible condemns and asks the witch who has a familar spirit, ie a demon to bring up Samuel. The witch brought up a demon pretending to be Samuel.

[daro2096]

Think about it for just a second. Jesus came to pay our debt of sin, right. And Romans 6:23 says the wages of sin is death, right? If the wages of sin is burning in hell through all eternity and not death then Jesus did not pay the full price for sin. He should still be there, right? But he came back to life, he was resurrected on the third day. The wages of sin is death. Jesus being resurrected from the dead proves that. It is not burning for eternity without end or Jesus should still be there.

[daro2096]

Woe just a minute this so-called expert at 8.54 doesn't have a clue what the Bible says. The heart of the earth is not some literal place called hell. He is taking the verse out of context.

Jesus said the three days and three nights would begin when he was in the heart of the earth. This started on Thursday night when he was arrested by the mob. Thursday night through to Sunday morning is three days and three nights inclusive.

The surface of the earth will be hell not its centre.

[daro2096]

The dead know not anything.

[dirtydonki]

More entertaining than Paranormal Activity III. :)

[lukeclarke2006]

one rule of thumb. if its american dont bleive it

[1982FMJ]

its up to you what you want to beleive but do not condem the possibiltiy that human beings do not have any spirit at all. it is highly possible that human beings dont have a spirit. the idea of human beings having a spirit is again religion based. personally i don't think people have a spirit or such a thing can be defined or even said.

[encoresurterre]

@1982FMJ - Why would you not want to believe in the existance of spirit? All living things have spirit. Each after its own kind. There are those that can see spirits of all levels of progression or regression. There is so much evidence now in testimony and scientific examination. Is it because knowing there are spirits would mean something else you don't like would be true? It may not be as bad as you think.

OAN: Hi, Goosed!

[1982FMJ]

@encoresurterre it doesnt matter what i belive. at the end of the day you have no proof that there is such thing as a spirit and it that again is religion based. there i no way to provea human has a spirit. how could you start out as something you dint begin as. yuo cannot prove what you are saying. no theory can ever be considered correct. you cannot deny the possibility that human beings dont have a spirit. if you do you are a fool

[encoresurterre]

@1982FMJ - Using various techniques of non-invasive scientific examination one can determine there is more to the human body than what meets the eye.

"how could you start out as something you dint begin as." ? That doesn't make any sense but I think I know what you are trying to say.

I agree with you. We don't die and 'become' spirits. We 'are' spirits enhabiting mortal physical bodies. When we die we are only 'returning' to where we came from. It is only part of our immortal progression.

[1982FMJ]

@encoresurterre yuo don't know that and cannot verify what you are saying. you are just guessing and thinking that is how it is and that is what you want to believe. absolutely knobody can prove the human being has a spirit and nobody ever will be able to. forget anything you have seen on tv or read in books about or religion based stuff.

[encoresurterre]

@1982FMJ - You are making assumptions about what and how I know what I know. I haven't taken anything as truth since I was 5, without a great deal of examination and study. To say there is no spirit takes no thought or effort but what I know took many years of examination and testing. I cannot prove to you that flying a sailplane and doing a wing over or a nose over is a most excellent experience but you will have to do it yourself.

Yes, I do ignore so much of the BS people feed each other.thnx

[Spectatio]

@1982FMJ HEY DUMASS, HAS IT EVER OCCURRED TO YOU THAT PROVING GOD TO YOU IS NOT ANY ONE ELSE'S JOB?

[Spectatio]

@1982FMJ @1982FMJ YOU IDIOT IT'S YOUR JOB, STOP TRYING TO BLAME YOUR IDIOCY ON EVERYBODY ELSE. MOST LIKELY YOUR PROBLEM IS YOU ARE ANGRY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT GOD OR ANYBODY TELLING YOU YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR PITIFUL LITTLE DICK TO YOURSELF. MOST ATHEISTS ARE FUNNY BOYS , ARE YOU?

[tk7475]

@Spectatio that doesn't sound like something jesus would say :P

[Spectatio]

@1982FMJ @1982FMJ WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO BEFORE GOD, SAY " WAAAA WAAA WAAA IT'S NOT MY FAULT THEM BASTARDS DIDN'T PROVE YOU TO ME !!" YOU IDIOT IT'S YOUR JOB, STOP TRYING TO BLAME YOUR IDIOCY ON EVERYBODY ELSE.

[GoosedByTheLight]

Dr. Tony Lawrence has it right when he says that “hell is not a place that you go to, as such, hell is more a conditional state of mind, that a person has when they’re ignorant of the possibilities of Love and Joy and happiness, and of leading a meaningful life“. Hell is the result of our shutting ourselves off from God, either from a feeling of unworthiness, or from self-centeredness, so that we choose to damn ourselves to isolation from God, and hence, hell.

[GoosedByTheLight]

Yet again, my dear brother Ian be talkin’ out ‘is backside. I have been to the void myself, I have seen the light, and I have been held by the Creator in the darkness. My little brother Ian became frightened by the darkness, and due to the fear it caused in him, he calls it “evil”. Before God said “let there be light”, God could only be found in darkness. Ian’s fear of the dark has hence blinded him to the presence of God within said darkness. God is everywhere, even in the shadows.

[LookItsBj13]

mountainlionguy, Thats What You Belive,Other People ave Different Religious Beliefs. I Do Belive In God But Leave Others As They Are.

They Dont Have To Belive In God Cuz You Belive In It. Theres A Lot Of Religions That Belive There Are 1 God, Some That Have Many more Gods, And Athiasts Don't Belive In An Afterlife.So Leave "Skeptics" Alone, They Arent Skeptics. They Justr Dont Belive In God.

[mountanlionguy]

god is real. and for all you who do not believe will be infron of the creator and only beg that they can have 2nd chance but it will be to late. lol grow up. and think how else would we be here. you dont just live and go thru lifes ordeals and experiences, and have all those feelings, than just die and be nothing lol get real skeptics. god is us

[GoosedByTheLight]

@mountanlionguy I believe that it takes a truly and deeply hardened heart to “lol” at the prospect of the thought of your fellow human siblings being damned. I have been before our Creator personally, and I don’t thing that He would find your “lol” very funny. Due, in part, to my experience (NDE), I know more certainly that God exists, than that I exist, but I’m just as sure that God does not “laugh out loud” with you at the prospect of some of His children being damned.

[scarry07]

2.This should teach us something important. Some people must experience hell only to appreciate Heaven. If hell would be forever, then God would not let u to learn from u mistakes. Is all about learning, not suffering. God do not punish. The religion system made people to interpret Bible trough eyes of fear, not trough eyes of Love.

[scarry07]

The dualistic thinking, separation is Devil job for Humans. A Devil which is an illusion who helps people to evolve on some point. We need evil to understand the good. But evil is like dark or cold -illusion. The dark is the absence of light, nothing more. The most people who experienced hell and come back, changed their life in an positive way. So, was those experience with hell negative? No, the learned to live in harmony with others.It was just an lesson, to transcend in love.

[Superblueblur]

people are just making this stuff up

[leelulove24]

ive had like about 3 out of body experience and i dont take any meds yes its real when i had it i never left the room so i dont think its the same as a NDE

[LanaV6]

You see, when scientist don't know or understand something, they start to make up such stupid things. Then later on. sometimes yrs later. they are all proven wrong. I do not bother to listen to most of them. I think they are more afraid of this than anyone else. So, they make up something stupid. Halucinations and dreams. etc. Yeah! right. Then there are some dr's that actually believe this and study it. Have proof etc. Some people just don't research. do not believe all u read, see or hear.

[CarlChipSanders]

@LanaV6

umm...NDE and OBE studies have been going on for decades....and they have been refined and changed numerous times...

[LanaV6]

No evidence? Well that is a crock. Because there is. Did u ever hear or see the story of a blind man who died and actually saw what was being done to him on the table and even explained everything said and done to him. Dr's verified everything. Oh! wait. one more thing. He even told the dr where to find a pen he lost. lol Behind a door. hmmmmm how can a blind man see that? or even know that? Yes. there is more proof than not.

[dirtydonki]

There is no verifiable evidence. Scientific or otherwise. Conclusion. Another crock of shit.

[stoked100000000]

all religions have one thing in common, fear mongering.

[Sha6ah]

"Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise."

56 Surat An-Nisa

[megadeath1555]

trust me ..hell is a creature.....

[CLOVERCITYY15]

believe in god and u will be saved....period

[exBMRguy]

@CLOVERCITYY15 Loser, so much more than thatr

[CLOVERCITYY15]

@exBMRguy u will burn with the rest of the garbage :D

[encoresurterre]

@dyroy1 and Karl made his own version.

[youngfred116]

hahahahha look at the athiest all burning in hell whaling and screeming. You don't need proof now bitches. Your sick ass is up and smoke. Burn baby burn. Youv'e all watched enough religious videos to know better. pooof

[dudes110]

this video sucs

[dudes110]

nice

[Twiggel]

well i just hope that there is something after life, cause i don't want be well...gone

[penguin311magic]

@Twiggel your conscious lives on

[bearpaw72]

@WWu777

I don't know if the center of the earth is made of iron or whatever, but gravity dictates that it's pretty gosh-darned heavy, that's for sure.

[encoresurterre]

What a great story...for people that don't actually read the scriptures.

And people think we're out of the Dark Ages, yet here we are.

[youngfred116]

@encoresurterre yeah here you are still watching these vids. let it go

[encoresurterre]

@youngfred116 Ya just had to rehash it didn't you? FYI, couldn't stand to watch the whole thing.

[youngfred116]

@encoresurterre kiss dick. u liked it and enjoyed it crazy ass fucker

[encoresurterre]

@youngfred116 Your crudity just knocked you down below a rock, which you should go crawl back under. Such vugarity should always be regarded by a progressive society as a sign of deterioration and looked down upon as self loathing and violation.

[youngfred116]

@encoresurterre lick dick and keep watching yourself burning in hell biach

[CLOVERCITYY15]

@youngfred116 u will burn

[youngfred116]

@CLOVERCITYY15 your a 21 year old dick sucker. you need a lot more practice before you can handle my dick faggot. burn these nuts biach

[CLOVERCITYY15]

@youngfred116 hahahhaha nice try fail.....u watch what happens when u die...ill be laughing

[youngfred116]

@CLOVERCITYY15 come hold my dick while i shit hahaha

[kalapatapu]

Bardo of becoming, sounds exactly like it.

[GaySingleMulatto]

What's truly fascinating to me is despite how seemingly impossible such a transformation is to achieve, is that gradually, Dr. Morse is over time able to become, almost effortlessly, progressively even more handsome.

[bearpaw72]

I'm going to hell when I die because I refuse to believe that pi is 3, as indicated in the bible.

[k0smon]

bearpaw72:: That isn't the only problem with the bible. Bart Ehrman says "It is chock full of contradictions".

[LachlanBerry05099]

Well, if people are having "hellish" experiences and others are having "heavenly" experience, that kinda rules out it being an illusion as people arent going to dream about hell. Im not some religious freak, in fact i dont really follow it at all...but common sense (provided people really have these experiences) tells us there must be an afterlife.

[college12003]

why does this lead you to believe there "must" be an afterlife. If some experience hell and others heaven, it is no different from optimists and pessimists today in our current reality. The redeeming value of NDE\OBE is the ability to see/hear things that would otherwise be impossible where their body lie, such as in the possible case of Pam Reynolds. Organized religion is a sham. Even today, this video is testament to their use of fear to persuade the "flock" God would not reward ignorance.

[LachlanBerry05099]

well they say it is an illusion created by the brain to make death more pleasant...why would the brain make you see fire, and satan and you feel an evil.... it doesnt really add up.

[college12003]

Because for some, the fear of death or the fear of punishment may be much more powerful than a coping mechanism attempting to make passing more pleasant.

[dakotadenverdexter]

@LachlanBerry05099 Its still a very confusing topic but consider the people who simply see their family or the people who don't have a near-death experience even when they are placed in the same circumstances. And if heaven and hell are real, it doesn't say much about their power over humanity when a doctor can just rip someone out of either one by restarting their heart ;)

[LachlanBerry05099]

@dakotadenverdexter yeah i guess we wont know until we go ourselves..not much point in debating over it, because no one can really prove either way.

[youngfred116]

@college12003 yeah, just quit watching the vids and say fuck it. there's a million other videos on this shit.

[MegaMusicalgenius]

Life after death, a Reality? Near death experiences, NDE - Fact or Fiction? Fact or Delusion? 2 / 5

[loulou2lou]

What a waste of the scientific community.

[k0smon]

DJ1: Wrongo! Spiritualist have known about what happens after you die for over a century.

[jeanpierrel]

I found that all of those who experience hell were people who were mean to others, that's what they said and that the hell experience change them and they become better person. If ever you experience hell to go out of there you have to pray god, you scream to god help me please and then you'll see the light of god!

[Christ4thenations]

To all the unbelievers, look up demonic possessions, then go see some deliverance take place. It will change your world.

[muckstar23]

dmt = nde period

[fortunecookiesucks]

If it was anything other than a ferromagnetic alloy of some form, we wouldn't have our magnetic field, and neither of us would be holding this conversation, as we'd both have died off from the radiation a long time ago.

Why the hell is a fellow Asian defending Christianity anyway; do you have no bearing on history, and what Christian monks did to our culture?

[BLUCOPPER123]

Ah ok i didnt know you knew the m theory also, ok so you would know like a higher vibration would make you feel better like a fesh breath of air would feel better well if you watch an listen to ppls NDE's they say they feel warm better so the diff dimension based on the string theoy that escapes time to internity which i personaly think its the 11th dimension cause im christian and ive seen ghosts n all that so i truley believe in the afta life, i would use better grammer not enough room to type

[fortunecookiesucks]

Hmm... that -may- be possible slightly. The problem is, how does consciousness survive death of the body?

And further, why would a supposedly just and loving "God" create hell, a place of INFINITE punishment for whatever FINITE acts we may have committed in life?

[BLUCOPPER123]

The heaven and hell, is like white and black, Now i don't think he made it, i think we made it with fear.

An then for the "how does consciousness survive death of the body" Deepak Chopra explained that question pretty good, i cant really describe what he said, i suggest you look him up on that subject like "Deepak Chopra Life After Death" that should do it.

[BlackDart94]

maybe heaven and hell was creatd before we were and when we finally ebcame to be our life is a test to see if we are suited to live in either heaven or hell

[k0smon]

fortune: Consciousness survives in the spirit body, the real you. Hell(s) are there for those who deserve them, the afterlife is about justice. Their punishment is not eternal,but is there till the lesson is learned.

[fortunecookiesucks]

And where is your evidence for any of that?

[k0smon]

fortune: All these NDE reports are evidence, reports of seances are evidence, Psychic contacts are evidence. Books written from the afterlife (channelled) are evidence. It is up to you if you accept them or not.

[fortunecookiesucks]

Testimonial evidence (specifically in the case of publications which are sold for a profit) are generally not admissible as evidence in court. What reason do I have to believe another's testimony; there are individuals claiming UFO sightings as well.

[k0smon]

fortune: And what is wrong with seeing UFOs? Oh, you don't believe in them. People have been seeing them for centuries. There are TV programs about them. And this is not a criminal case, so admissibility is less stringent. The preponderance of evidence is on my side.

[fortunecookiesucks]

The same factor that makes extraterrestrial life nearly infinitely probable (the vast size of the universe) makes it nearly infinitely improbable that they would ever pick our world to visit. Thus, claims of UFO sightings of claimed extraterrestrial origin should be viewed with the greatest of skepticism.

I would be much more likely to view the people making such claims as either delusional or willfully deceptive than to take them at face value. It's the only logical response.

[forestloves]

Yeah, I see UFO's every day. But only for 2-3 seconds, most oftenly. Then I realize that it's dust, insects, flies or whatever :)

[k0smon]

forestloves: Then they were never really unidentified, were they?

[forestloves]

At first glance, yes they were. Then they were identified, and became IFO's instead of UFO's :D

[fortunecookiesucks]

LOL at religious stupidity. The center of the earth is a solid iron sphere... Dumbasses.

[BLUCOPPER123]

If there is heaven or hell it would be in a different dimension LOL.

[fortunecookiesucks]

Indeed; though the very thought is far too absurd for me to even consider.

[BLUCOPPER123]

Um type in "4th dimension" on YouTube it comes up with like a Carl Sagon or something like that, he explains like the different dimensions and how we would be able to see diff dimension beings. Very interesting.

[fortunecookiesucks]

I'm well familiar with the multi-dimensional model; I subscribe to an 11 dimensional model myself (M-Theory)

I suppose I should have spoken more clearly. It's "heaven" and "hell" I find to be absurd, not higher dimensions than the 4 we're normally accustomed to.

[k0smon]

Blu: That is right, it exists in the spiritual dimension. Now wipe that LOL off your face.

[BLUCOPPER123]

Are you trying to diss me on something we agree about?  Im confused haha

[k0smon]

Blue: I certainly would not diss you on something we agree about. Please be more specific.

[BLUCOPPER123]

I say heaven is real and hell then you say heaven is real and hell. So thats y im so confused, the was a really old comment maybe thats why im not getting you.

[k0smon]

Blu: I think we have a little English structure problem here. You used the word 'if' which I apparently misinterpreted.

[BLUCOPPER123]

Ah yes sorry. Havnt you checked my profile?  Haha

[daveo2992]

Tru dat!

[wetweasel56]

Hellish experiences are a small percentage of the overall NDE. Why are these people focusing on the hellish ones when they are so uncommon?

The answer is they want to keep people in fear so they will want to be saved. And were do you get saved? Church!

Christianity cannot exist without hell.