"The Earth is at the Centre of the Universe"

[NUAGESA]

OK sao if the Earth isn't spinning how do we explain vortices? Every fluid partially held at rest on the surface of the Earth by opposing forces such as gravity and upthrust exhibit a vortex; from the water released from our baths, to plasma of our fires and the air in our weather system. There is also the little matter of the pendulum which when freely suspended traces out a sequence straight line projections on the ground which describe a disk over a 24 hour period instead of a single line!

[Eljaygee020346]

In an infinite universe, everything exists at the center, only in different local dimensions.

[prairiemark]

Why listen to the village idiots of Christendom?

[LateNiteGibberish]

Oldest troll known to man.

[silentalertjj]

He is trolling, right?



[benbrocklehurst]

@icesterftl there is a light speed limit, it's always 299 792 458 m / s from any frame of reference.

[Barild85]

You might need to update your knowlege!!! 

[ThomasTrue]

Universities deny people like you a voice because you tell LIES. You can believe your book of bronze age goat herders fairy tales if you want. But leave science to those who believe in the truth.

[katiemilker]

There's a lot science doesn't know and that mostly why they mostly call it theory, I personally presume that the earth is spinning around the sun, by watching stuff like the space station video's but I don't totally dismiss that in some way it could be the planets orbiting us, after all everything is perspective.

The universe is also holographic and there's an inner earth, which science doesn't mention, Along with the cure to cancer, air powered cars, replication technology and free energy.

[jimtrueblue99]

Sugar plum, don't you understand that everything which you claim demonstrates that the universe rotates around the earth could be said by a Martian as proof that the universe rotates around Mars? What does that tell you about your ideas? Golly, considering this geezer has so many problems with the idea of motion, do the Brits allow him to drive a car? I hope not. I don't think that the ether is the only thing that is exremely dense!

[Matunder1]

Malcolm, how come the pacific ocean is 3 ft higher on its western side than its eastern side, this is caused by the turn of the earth. The same effect is seen on the atlantic but to a lesser degree as it is not as wide as the pacific. Also how come God said let there be light on day 1 but did not create the sun and stars until day 4, what was shining for 4 days.

[dubvishun]

there are only those who know evolution is bogus but must continue the campaign..the jesuit struggle thru the past century for world domination will come to pass.they will have their victory for a time whether pulling people into catholicism atheism or manipulating them to "fall subject" to error such as sda, mormonism, jw, calvinism..any of the yieldings from satans great false reformation ..anything it takes to con people away from the true gospel..period. jesuits are genius. very few make it

[yootoobisrunbyidiots]

Oh crap--geocenterism was disproven mathematically in 1596. Duane Gish???? The original cave man, who has never spoken the truth about anything in his life and is universally reviled outside creatrd circles???? ICR??? Reviled even INSIDE creationist circles??? Please. Bowden is a crank incompetent, and his 3 "hidden" experiments aren't hidden; they just don't happen to prove anything the poor dumb fool says.

[pontecanis]

@yootoobisrunbyidiots ~You got that right. Gish is a phony and completely raving nuts. Bowden is a nutcase who is completely out of his depth. He has been severely debunked and disproven with ease...his ideaa of geocenterism turned our solar system into a binary system with ridiculous epicycles. His knowledge of astronomy is nonexistent. The experiments he refers to are junk.

[Justpooinabush]

You're such an ignorant and naive mess of a human....

[De4sher]

you stupid old wack! do the mirror experiment on the sun, and on the moon and EVERyWHERE it will turn out that that particular body is stationary... because there's no freaking ether!!!!

the ether was an old idea, proven wrong by maxwell's equations and general relativity.

you're impossibly stupid and your kind deserves no patience....

[BereanBeacon1]

@De4sher All evolutionists have is hot air on the mostly anonymous Internet. We have the real science backed up by the $10,000 Life Science Prize. You can evolve from a chicken and win the prize or make cowardly remarks on websites until you ultimately die and become a creationists after it's too late. My last remark to you is something that everyone understands: CLUCK, CLUCK

[De4sher]

@BereanBeacon1 once again you show hints to have no understanding of anything even remotely related to science.

i think your last remark to me is actually the only thing you actually understand.

I do not mean this as an insult, but since i have a bachelor degree in physics, i can say objectively that your ideas are jokes and lies. I for one knew about all your "secret" experiments.

And believe me, the internet is not offering me safety in annonimity, but offering you protection FROM me.

[TheScienceFoundation]

@BereanBeacon1 Which part of 'science is not done in a courtroom' are you having a problem grasping?

Are you ever going to challenge creationists to present their evidence for legitimate peer review or are you only going to continue to make your completely unscientific challenge in your wholly unscientific arena?

[DarkBunnyLord]

@BereanBeacon1 One creature doesn't "evolve" into another. That single statement alone means you don't even understand evolution.

On top of this evolution is proven, not a theory dip shit. Why on earth do you think we keep getting new strains of bacteria and virus? Why do the vast majority of geneticists agree that we evolve?

If the evidence pointed to creation then those who spent their lives studying this would likely lean towards creation, but guess what, they don't.

[w4rdriver]

Stop talking online, where impressionable minds can be swayed by such dribble and non-sense.

This is what happens you when read some of the book, then think you're clever enough to know the rest. Read more please,..

[jazztrumpet87]

i'm sorry... i, don't want to be willingly ignorant- so I have to ask... what exactly IS ether?

[fujinmage]

Science in the hands of stupid people....

[zombiewoof63]

This guy is priceless.

[Tritium8]

oh crap, the stupidity it hurts

[WilkoPhilip]

just so you know as far as e know we are not at the galactic central point our milky way is moving away from other galaxies its been proven.... just so you know

[Daruqe]

Science fail.

[metalmike83]

So you have 1 KM per second...that's 3,600 KM per hour at its slowest. Hardly seems stationary to me. At it's fastest, you get 36,000 KM per second according to the original Michelson-Morley experiment. That sound stationary to you? You don't notice the speed because, we are including in the Earth's inertial frame of reference. But even by the experiments you are using, the earth is moving.

[metalmike83]

His claim is that the Michelson-Morley experiment proved the earth is stationary, yet the experiment showed, even by your accounts, that the earth is moving at 1-10KM/S. He doesn't seem to realize just how fast that is. He used the analogy of the boat and how you know if you're moving or the liner is moving. Well, even though we seem stationary, that is just because we are stationary from our frame of reference. Continued.

[ResinRat2]

I don't care about the naysayers who ridicule you. I am a Polymer Research Chemist, and I have looked into this myself from other sources. With an open mind I see that MG, Sagnac, and Airy are never mentioned in school. What you are saying explains quite a bit. If the earth is stationary at the center of the universe, then the athiests would go crazy. It would mean we are special, and created by a God. Thanks very much for the vid.

[83Hammerhead]

wow...it's the 21st century and there are still people spouting this crap. f**king religion is to blame!

[Bigbiber89]

facepalm what a bullshit...

[lionn420]

smoke some more of that jesus crack jack...........you fail on EVERY level.

[Astrobrant2]

1. Explain parallax oscillation of stars as we orbit the sun. You can't. But then, you probably didn't even know about that, as you are utterly ignorant of astrophysics. You have NOT properly represented the experiments you refer to. The reason the ether was dismissed is because it DOES NOT EXIST, and the M-M experiment is what PROVED this! IOW, by your stupid illustration, there IS NO "water" to put our hands in.

2. Provide the physics which causes the entire universe to orbit around us.

[ReverendNillerz]

Ether theory? Seriously?

[MuddyDrummer]

Is the earth flat too?

I really do think you're putting us on and having a laugh at our expense.

Cheers.

[hugesinker]

The aether has never been shown to exist, you silly guy.

[papermason]

I'm so glad to know this, thank you for posting this, Mr. Bowden. God Bless you!!!

[mrchams]

great vid

[GodKillerAtheist]

The earth is the center of the universe Special Theory of Relativity makes this possible. But if you travel to the moon then the Moon becomes the center of the universe but only to you.

This guy obviously doesn't understand we are falling into a gravity well towards the sun. Creationists never seem to be able to grasp gravity.

[MalcolmBowden]

REPLY TO THEHEATHER1985 - I do not think that I EVER said that the M-M experiment is NOT mentioned to students. THAT is well known, but I am willing to bet that you were NEVER even told about the M-G, Sagnac and Airy's Failure experiments!!! If not, why not as they are just as important.

[MKelly1919]

We weren't told about many experiments at my school. You generally don't learn a lot about something that has been proven wrong.

[MalcolmBowden]

There was nothing "wrong" with these experiments! They are ignored because they contradict present theories. MM proved we were NOT travelling round the Sun. Sagnac proved there WAS an ether - demolishing Relativity. MG detected the 24hr rotation and Airy proved the earth was stationary. ALL very unwelcome news to orthodox cosmologists! They are fearful of anything that proves man and the earth are the special creation of God.

[MKelly1919]

let me correct myself, I was not stating that the experiments were wrong, rather the hypothesis of an aether. Drag God into it, yay?

The simple fact is, the aether doesn't exist, MM showed this with the nul result, furthermore we have a much more complex view of light these days that removes any need of an aether. How did Sagnac prove than an aether was real, and demolish relativity, no offence, but I'd put my money with Einstein, and my own work.

[MalcolmBowden]

Sagnac got fringe movement when the table spun. This proved that the stationary ether controlled the speed of light. According the relativity, the table and lights were a complete unit and NO fringe movement should have been observed.

[MalcolmBowden]

The MM exp did NOT get a null result. DCMiller got 1-12 Km/s readings consistently. This troubled Einstein badly and when Miller died, Shankland - a pupil of Miller - with Einstein's support produced a spurious report rubbishing ALL Millers results. Shankland then climbed to prestigious positions. So much for scientific integrity and pursuit of truth!!!

[MKelly1919]

Getting consistent readings, doesn't mean something isn't a null result; it just doesn't work. If he was getting 1-12km/s readings though, how does that work with your ideas of the earth never moving or rotating? And, if the earth isn't rotating, then all the stars must be rotating around us every 24 hours, and so if something is, say 1 light year away, it would have to move 2(pi) lightyears in a day, a physical impossibility to travel faster than C? Just curious.

[vesperus1981]

this is why space propulsion has not advanced in 50 years. We could push off of the eather and use use a gravity well against.

[korzon]

wekk his theory had very sound facts i bben studying this today was even told rediometric dating is enormously effected by this change thus making dating rocks imppossible only by the helios that rapidly cool whithin rocks very quickly in many cases very young rocks when they were said ti be millioms of years old and yet scientists still havent pulled out he wrong equations out of the books they still teach this falsehood today.All i want is truth not what is simple excepeted

[playinginamist]

11:11pm coincidence? I think not. Good video. I must watch again and ponder this further.

[MKelly1919]

Did anyone crack out laughing when he mentioned Planck Density. The Planck density is the theoretical density at the moment of the Big Bang. it has nothing in the slightest to do with the aether.

He does realise Maxwell discarded the aether. The aether was a hypothetical medium for light to travel through, by uniting electricity and magnetism, thereby creating the electro-magnetic force, Maxwell showed that light creates its own medium; it can travel through a vacuum. That was 1864.

[playinginamist]

@MKelly1919 Is he talking about ether the drug/gas/liquid? Or, the one you're talking about is different? I duno much about this stuff, so I was curious. Thanks.

[MKelly1919]

The aether, from I gather, is a hypothetical medium. The basic idea is that waves need a medium to propagate, therefore people supposed light needed a medium. This was the aether; it was present throughout space. However, the experiments shown here showed a null result. While he feels that this shows the Earth is stationary, conversely it shows the aether doesn't exist. Einstein directly ruled it out with General/Special relativity. Geocentricity is a joke and impossible. Some people are idiots.

[playinginamist]

Aah okay different things. Thanks :)

[MKelly1919]

different? dude, it doesn't exist.

[TheHeather1985]

Thank you. Maxwell's equations so beautifully show that light self propogates. I'm glad you know this and can appreciate it. Unlike the ape in this video.

[MKelly1919]

Don't you just hate it when people can take something so elegant, and distort it. I'm glad there is someone who also appreciates this. Thank you.

[TheHeather1985]

His claim that the Michelson-Morley Interferometry experiment is not spoken about in Physics classes is a complete lie. We discussed it in great detail in Intro to modern physics.

[MKelly1919]

Same here, I love how they have to start with the evil scientific conspiracy keeping information from you speech, wonder if it will ever get old.

[mojorhythm]

Congratulations geocentric creationists. You have just proved beyond a doubt that human stupidity is completely limitless. I wanted to slap this idiot right on the face for being such a preposterously inept half-baked sophomoric imbecile. The stupid moron who gave him a doctorate needs to be penciled in for a sudden visit from Joseph Mengele. I can tolerate IDers and I can even somewhat tolerate YECs but this is just asking too much.

[MKelly1919]

This guy, Malcom Bowden, doesn't have a doctorate. Duane Gish somehow has one in Biochemistry, amazingly.

[eugeniobb]

how to kill 5 centuries of science in 20minutes.! this guy is a genius!

[eugeniobb]

who's your pusher?

[vince19811981]

ok that its!!!! i'm commiting suicide, I NO LONGER WANT TO CO-EXIST WITH THIS RETARDS!!! you can have the world, you win, i'm going to go now, seriously, I don't know why i'm self-aware and most of you religious retards are not, but I dont care, just have it , FUCK IT BYE!!

[Lacocacolaman]

yay one less nut job :)

[vince19811981]

idiot

[Lacocacolaman]

oh watch out someone is mad :)

[gregrutz]

This guy has never studied Einstien's theorys, or he would know how stupid he sounds.

[sugmegpls]

Yes its all a giant conspiracy.....

[MoveOrder]

You make a video and show your face to the world and you claim that the earth is the center of the universe.

Are you feeling okay?

[rollinshultz]

Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to divide between the day and the night. And let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years.

If we are not rotating how do we stay on the earth? If the stars billions of light years away can travel around us every year the speed would truly be unimaginable.

[SSJ3Ulcer]

Gravity comes from mass, not the Earth's rotation. That's how you know that the sun is at the center of the solar system, because it is the most massive object.

[Luigi84289]

@SSJ3Ulcer But how do we know the sun is not less massive? Everything we know is filtered through other people. Question everything. This is the only way to come to the complete truth. Do I believe the Earth is at the center? no but I'm open. The Governments of the world the way the international market is set up could very easily pay off all the prestigious schools and with control over text book and the media get us to believe whatever we want.

[SSJ3Ulcer]

@Luigi84289 Good point. That is why evidence is so important. Let us not bicker with one another, let us allow the evidence to speak for itself.

[De4sher]

@Luigi84289 aha... that would be a fair deal.

perhapse the government pays scientists to go around and paint all the plants green, at night, when their actual color is purple, too.

how likely would it be to all be a massive conspiracy for some thing who nobody gives a shit about and wouldn't matter either way?

how likely would it be that there are crazy people like this old man, that have no clue about what they're talking about?

yeah... question everything,..how about "what ether?"

[Kenzofeis]

@SSJ3Ulcer You have an old post here, but I felt like commenting on it anyway ^^

The Sun is hardly ever at the center of the solar system. Go figure ;p

[nebuersirob]

People are taught in school that we are so smart and know so much. What is the point of having all of this knowledge if it is a big lie. Then it's better not to fill ones head with knowledge which has no truth.

[2012Prophecy]

It is IMPOSSIBLE for white men to tell the truth.

If he isn't at the center, how does he know what is?

This is the devil at work here people, and the devil takes no prisoners.

[clairewaldof]

mental retardation.

Btw earth is not the centre of the universe.

[unicron24]

ummm is he sayin that the sun rotates around the earth?does the sun spin?

[TheAltershadow]

If the sun rotates around the earth every 24 hours,(therefore we have each day and night) how come we have seasons where the sun is further away (winter) and closer (summer)?? Wouldnt the earth have to be spinning AND the sun orbiting earth, to achieve these 2 things (day/night and summer/ winter)??

[SounzNice]

earth wobble could account for it

in the geo model, an imperfect sun orbit could account for it

[krisv001]

If we believe what the bible says then I think geocentrism is true. But most of us have been brainwashed by school or other sources to believe something else.

[GoldenRatio]

And that ''something else'' is called the truth. No 'brainwashing' has taken place.

[gregrutz]

"Put you hand in the water'  LOL

Einstein proved you can't do that with the earth. So did Michelson-Morley experiment.

Study the Theory of Relitivity.

It shows all frames of reference are corrent, it does not mean we are not moving.

[SSJ3Ulcer]

What is this, satire? You're actually going to argue for theism from geocentricity?

Boy if THAT doesn't inspire doubt in the existence of god, I don't know what will!

I mean, really: if god exists he ought to be slapping you upside the head right now!

[2222554]

Mercury as the 1st planet from the sun would be represented by the #1.

Venus as the 2nd planet from the sun would be represented by the #2.

YET

Mercury rotates around the sun 4 times while the earth makes 1 revolution.

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

You' d be surprised at how famous astronomers know/knew that the universe obviously appeared to circle the earth & expands away from it (i.e. Red Shift) & so had to use tortured math to explain it away, like the Jesuit astrophysicist Georges Lemaitre who helped Einstein invent space-time expansion, essentially saying the reason it looked like we were at the center was because it looks that way EVERYWHERE in the universe! LOL

Look at what Hawkings said about this ad hoc excuse foisted on us...

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

"We have no scientific evidence for or against this assumption. We believe it ONLY on the grounds of MODESTY: it would be most remarkable if the universe looked the same in every direction around us, but not around other points in the universe!"

Weinberg called it "one great uncertainty that hangs like a dark cloud over the standard [big bang] model"

Experts know just like top biologists know evolution is a joke but are dogmatic fascists otherwise the Establishment will crush them

OrionFDNorg

[SSJ3Ulcer]

Yeah, brother! The very same "Establishment" that the technology you've used to make that comment is based upon, in fact!

Fight the power, you radical mystic revolutionary, you!

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

A bit more complex than that. Technology can be used for good or ill just like education where most are fed garbage like the cosmology you've bought into b/c you have faith in what people with degrees tell you b/c they were fed the same for years & their job depends on these traditions influenced by politics.

You show it's not necessary to use technology to openly oppress b/c you keep yourself in check, mocking what you don't understand & making the Man your highest authority, as intended.

[SSJ3Ulcer]

Look man,...you need not have "bought into" any cosmology to know why this video is so appallingly absurd. You just need not to be wholly ignorant of commonly known facts, have a little common sense, and exert the equivalent mental effort of lifting a finger. If the Earth was at the center of the solar system, it would wipe out everything we know about physics, up to, and including, Newton. Have you ever heard of gravity before? Yeah, well, toss that idea out the window.

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

Gravity? Scientists are puzzled by it esp. in astrophysics. The "common known facts" aren't facts. Why do you think the experts have to invoke some magical "dark matter" undetectable by instruments & filling the whole universe to salvage the standard models? Why do you think top experts like Hawking and Weinberg chock it up to "modesty" and "great uncertainty" with "no science"? Wow. Try lifting more than a finger before you buy into monstrous frauds given to us by a JESUIT PRIEST. What a JOKE!

[SSJ3Ulcer]

You're god-damn right I have faith in people with degrees! Do you want to know why? Because they've put forth the time and effort into doing the research, conducting controlled experiments, and analyzing the data. They have the integrity and boldness to recognize the results for what they are even if their hypotheses are not supported, and to humbly admit when they're wrong....(continued)

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

You're damn RIGHT you have faith b/c you dont KNOW science in the 1st place, as you were born a sucker, led like a blind slave in totally darkness buying a big pile of BS sold to you by the VATICAN! HAHA! What a brainwashed zealot wind bag. You can't even deal with the hard FACTS I TRASHED your brainless worldview with from Leading EXPERTS! Youre too dense to even KNOW modern science was FOUNDED on Christian philosophy! A disgraceful backwards darkage mental midget is what you are. How obscene!

[SSJ3Ulcer]

If it makes perfect sense, and is supported by empirical observations and mathematical proofs, though, then it is quite unlike "being lead like a blind slave." One does not need to be lead by anyone to see for themselves what is plainly obvious.

Well, OK, some people do.

[Lacocacolaman]

what the hell are you talking about? scientist never admit to anything they do wrong! they just sweep it under the rug and pretend it never happened

[SSJ3Ulcer]

If I had to guess what you did for a living, I could rule out anything involving science.

[Lacocacolaman]

@SSJ3Ulcer well i could assume the same about you i doubt scientist are out here youtubing :)

[SSJ3Ulcer]

.(continued)...And you in your appalling ingnorance of the western tradition of rationalism and the scientific method - upon which the first world infrastructure that ungrateful, ignorant, fundamentalist scum like you take for granted - have the audacity to label such integrity and humility as "fraudulent." Shame on you!

[Mekelsior]

Did the Jesuits ponder the earth around the sun doctrine? Or were somehow involved in it? I believe everything they touch is against God..

I do believe the earth will be the center of the universe once God moves His capital to the earth after the 1000 years, but that's another matter. Interested to hear more from you on this matter. I'm a creationist after all, so what do I got to loose? :D

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

Copernicus 1st said earth circled sun Galileo agreed, both were bible believing creationists. Jesuits weren't invented yet & were created as a militant arm to fight Protestants who were spreading bibles to commoners teaching them to read, giving monarchies political capital to escape the thuggery of the Vatican, creating freedom, wealth, science revolution & America, now all that has been co-opted by them like they did Christianity

Earth is NEAR center I believe, Isaiah shows earth circling sun

[Mekelsior]

Indeed, but the spirit of Jesuits may have been prevalent even in those days. I know that the Vatican has a greedy finger in pretty much all corruption that goes on in the world, they are after all the Beast in Rev 14. (The First Beast)

I can imagine to adopt this state of faith, that the earth is the center or near the center is not really popular, but I must look at it more.. this ether thing was interesting so I'm reading up on it. You should check out Mark Woodman.

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

The spirit existed before b/c they came from papacy to curb the freedom Christ gave. There's many forms & guises but this is the crux of the discord. The pope holds the office of Pontifex Maximus, the high priest of pagandom that the Caesars inherited from Babylon (likely began by Nimrod). Caesar Augustus as Pon Max had Virgil pen the Latin National Epic from whence Novus Ordo Seclorum derives, taking oracles of Messiah (from Daniel) & applying them to Pon Max to bring a NWO (NovusOrdoSeclorum)

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

Correction: Jesuits ("company of Jesus") began in 1534, Copernicus published heliocentric discoveries in 1543, Galileo was 1st condemned by Vatican in 1616.

I see what you're getting at tho, you're thinking of a Machiavelli ploy where they create a false controversy to create the outcome desired. Wouldn't put it passed them, Machiavelli himself worked with Cardinal Wolsey to counter the Reformation flooding the literate world with pagan works later pushed by the Illuminati, founded by a Jesuit!

[Mekelsior]

Yeah, Jesuits does everything to promote Popery, nothing is sinful for them as long as they honor the Beast. Not many Christians know what you know, let alone secular people. Sad thing is the world is completely unaware of the fact that Jesuits are still at large and they are behind the NWO and the movement for a one world government. The Pope will be the leader aka dictator and all that is against Rome are Heretics, and the punishment is as usual death, by torture, burning or strangulation.

[Mekelsior]

I think Jesuit is known as the "Society of Jesus"? But It's not important, they are 21000 agents strong, 100% brainwashed and would torture their own child if they had to.

EU made their constitution in 2004 in Rome, Vatican. The Roman Treaty, which includes Sunday Blue Laws. It is history being repeated again, the mark of the Beast being Sunday reverence, enforced by the political entities. What are your thoughts on this?

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

The biggest clue to the nature of the mark of the beast is shown in Ezekiel 9.3-6, in which even the circumstances there are strikingly similar to the one in Revelation. Also, people love to quote only the bits in Rev. that fit their erroneous beliefs about the MOTB being a microchip. That ignorant theory was started by Texe Marrs who's "ministry" has descended into pinning everything on Jews, which actually helps the papal-Zionist cause in a twisted way who use front Jews for their dirty work.

[Mekelsior]

The Hegelian Dialectic is also a name for the same principal. Creating a Thesis and an Antithesis putting them against each other, such as Judea/Christian vs Islam in order to make a Synthesis. It is done all over the world, Democrat vs Republican, Communism vs Fascism(Capitalism), Communism won by the way, USA is now pretty much a socialist country with only the illusion of democracy. Just according to prophecy.

[AllOtherNamesUsed]

Yep, or "problem, reaction, solution" (without the lizards).

Easy as shake & bake.

[LiquidSmooth]

This is one subject i'm open to listening to. But have not made up my mind either way.

The only thing I am sure of, is that our solar sysem is at the center of the universe. And either the Sun or the Earth is at the absolute center.

[2222554]

@LiquidSmooth I myself was contemplating those two as being the fact of this matter... In some ways i wonder if it was both somehow? OR the space between them both?

SUN

Mercury 1st planet from sun

Venus 2nd planet from sun

Earth 3rd planet from sun

[2222554]

The actual center line would be between Mercury & Venus... But I feel Mercury would take precedent over the sun and Venus of the earth due to the pairing lineup being shown.

Sun (center of universe?)

Mercury

_____

Venus

Earth (center of universe?)

[2222554]

Although Lugus may originally have been a deity of light or the sun, similar to the Roman Apollo, his importance as a god of trade and commerce made him more comparable to Mercury, and Apollo was instead equated with the Celtic deity Belenus

_____

People regarded Venus as Earths twin because its size, mass, and density are so much like Earths

Venus was called Earth's Sister Planet

[2222554]

When Venus lies directly in front of the Sun and in line with Earth, the resonances of Venus are highly focused (emblazoned) upon the Earth--inspiring a new level of "intuitive awareness" to permeate Earth and spread in and through human consciousness.

Once the Greeks learned that Phosporus and Hesperus were really the same planet, they named it Aphrodite as befitted its beauty; and then the Romans changed the name to Venus which we now use.

[2222554]

Aphrodite IS Gaia - Greek Goddess as Mother Earth Ha Hai-i Wuhti - Hopi Divine Mother Hecate...

[silentonall]

This would clearly redefine the Anthropic Principle.

[truthbeknowen]

amen!!!!!!

[bluevaines]

wow something to think about.

God bless.