Viggo Mortensen is outstanding. I love his suave yet gritty, dark persona. Favorite Nikolai moment would be that when he dipped the still burning cigarette to his tongue.
Surprisingly, I was not able to focus on his flopping appendage in the bathhouse scene because the ongoing violence just keeps me distracted.
The ending left me hanging, though. Spoilers: I wish I had seen how Semyov ended (was he arrested?), whether Nikolai truly claimed Semyov's position, etc.
seriously, can they show Russians as nice people at least once? It is always either mafia, spy, terrorists and/or war criminals. Just like ANY other countries we have all that, but we also have plenty of nice, honest, hard-working people.
@dfcmrf So you know Viggo's character was working undercover and was actually a good guy? But i completely see your point and i agree. It's like it's the cold war again. Especially in Videogames. Fucking Modern Warfare 2 ... >_>
@YoungZer0 I know, I kind of did not want to spoil it for others :) But I guess Viggo character is as "good guy" as Russian can get in Hollywood movies :)
@dfcmrf Anyway, i'm still glad they made this movie, since there are so few who are actually about the Russian mob. Viggo's also great. He went completely alone to Russia, just to see how people talk and how different the Russian culture is. He did all this not knowing one Russian word. :D But it payed off. Viggo's performance, character and Russian were all good. He actually did most of his research alone. He was the one who 'discovered' that Russian mob gangster usually have tattoos.
I love this movie, gives a real feel of Russian mobsters. Beside the fantastic story the director collected handsome guys, I could accept both, Николай and Сойка (sorrowfully killed at the beginning) as my husband. :))
Great film!! - Cronenberg & Viggo - what a combo- hope they do some more films! - Viggo always amazing - and D.C. is working on a level here & in "History of...V." that equals and surpasses Hitchcock even - has become a 'mature' master of film! - as much as i enjoy his earlier films, the more realistic he is, the scarier his movies are - and yeah, the fight scene in the russian bath-house will later be recognized as one of the all-time (or the best) greatest fight scenes in movie history!
the fight scene is one of the best in cinema/movie histroy, personally its the 2nd best fight scene i have ever seen (The first best is when titus pullo is fighting in the gladiator arena in the "rome" series)
wikipedia is the WORST source regarding this subject, you talk to any knowledgeable russian including myself- they will tell you the thieves world is dead, and russian organized crime is controlled by a people of a completely different background. if you really want to learn about true russian organized crime read any of alexander litvinenkos books including "lubyanka criminal group" and "blowing up russia: the secret plot to bring back kgb terror". the tatoos now are nothing but antiquity.
you know what game is some what accurate about russian mafia? hitman 2: silent assassin, surprisingly enough lol. gta? i played it, i dont know if it is acurate or innacurate, the russian mob in the U.S.A is completely different from the russian mafia in russia, but really its a very enigmatic organization, even i dont know that much and i know more than most people- id say the only people who really know about it are CIA, FSB, all those types.
@XIPM3 I think Cronenberg understands that the Vor is rather old news. My guess? He included the tattoos not because he wanted to portray the Mafia accuratly, it was to give a sense that these criminals, these recent arrivals to London and the west in general, have ways and codes that are steeped in their own history but with out going in to a massive history lesson and doubling the length of the film. It was a creative choice. That's my guess. It ties in with other symbols in the film too.
No these are actors for a BBC drama pretending to be real gangsters. Real gangsters are terrorists and psychopaths. Not glamourous, not cool, not heroes just scum.
@cleverfeller Sometimes, but most of the time they do it for money. They break the law and kill for profits. Kind of like savage business men. By the way, no one in this movie is glamorous or a hero.
@Soophus They're terrorists in that they climb the hierarchy of their little gangs and gain "respect" by spreading terror. Cutting off people's parts, shooting people, beating people, raping people, threatening people. They're psychopaths in that they are even capable of these things and continue to do it. So I would argue that both labels are accurate. That's not to say that all terrorists and psychopaths are gangsters, but that gangsters can certainly embody both descriptions. Get it?
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@okodorifuto that is not true. The russian mob is about five time the size of the mexicans, and they are international. The mexicans only deal drugs and go through one or two nations. The russians are worldwide and have access to weapon the mexins and Columbians only dream about. One russian mobster even tried to sell a russian sub to a colombian drug traffiker. The mexicans and colombians are generally afraid of the russians.
I was talking about "The most feared" And the Mexican drug cartels and today and by far they are the most feared at least here in Mexico and in the USA. USA is giving money to the Mexican Goverment so they can fight them. "El Cartel del Golfo" and "The zetas" are today the second most brutal and savage criminal organization to tread the US. Al Qaeda being the first one of course.
They may be the most feared, but hell no are they the most respected. There is no respect left these days. Anyone that has a gun and fires it is a gangster, and the mexiacans do just this. They have no regard for inecent life, if they get in the way, they die.
are u stupid the not even cosa nostra can fcuk wit the RED mafia they r the most ruthless & merciless organization ever n they dont deal only drugs n they r global as bradly said if u can make a profit of it the bratva can get it 4 u.
The drug cartels don't count as a "Mafia", actually. The cartels might be the most powerful but that is because they have such strong ties with the horribly corrupt Mexican government. As who is feared for the methods, financial power, and size, then it would be either the Russian Mob or the Yakuza. I only say Yakuza because they have been around for an extremely long time. The Italians are intense too but they're more focused on the money than the murder.
IMO, this is a great great movie and I'd recommend it, expecially for the quality of actors' performances. Viggo Mortensen and Vincent Cassel are awesome.
Why the hell is this movie so hard to find?lol...I really want to see it but it's not playing anywhere in my area except for like one theater and it's always playing late at night there.
They make it sound like he's the best quarterback that ever was. They just wanna send a message out to all the Black QBs...you'll never be worshiped like out precious white boys
part 2 in the works!
bsnider0031 7 months ago
@bsnider0031 with viggo??
viga1989 6 months ago
I am so happy for Viggo - great actor - in a new movie playing Dr.Freud.
heigei1 10 months ago 2
Viggo Mortensen is outstanding. I love his suave yet gritty, dark persona. Favorite Nikolai moment would be that when he dipped the still burning cigarette to his tongue.
Surprisingly, I was not able to focus on his flopping appendage in the bathhouse scene because the ongoing violence just keeps me distracted.
The ending left me hanging, though. Spoilers: I wish I had seen how Semyov ended (was he arrested?), whether Nikolai truly claimed Semyov's position, etc.
cenotaphofmist 10 months ago
1:50 Jesus... I'd be scared out of my skin if a Russian in a black suit did that at me...
RevanDuvalcane 11 months ago
@RevanDuvalcane you wouldnt have time to be scared, you would already be dead
Tembelizatorul 11 months ago
Looks brilliant...
manutd689908 1 year ago
This movie was so well acted and such a great story! Lvoe it!
beretta1342000 1 year ago
Viggo Mortensen was very awesome in this movie
92af 1 year ago
seriously, can they show Russians as nice people at least once? It is always either mafia, spy, terrorists and/or war criminals. Just like ANY other countries we have all that, but we also have plenty of nice, honest, hard-working people.
dfcmrf 1 year ago 5
@dfcmrf I guess you didn't see the film?
YoungZer0 1 year ago
@YoungZer0 um, I did.
dfcmrf 1 year ago
@dfcmrf So you know Viggo's character was working undercover and was actually a good guy? But i completely see your point and i agree. It's like it's the cold war again. Especially in Videogames. Fucking Modern Warfare 2 ... >_>
YoungZer0 1 year ago
@YoungZer0 I know, I kind of did not want to spoil it for others :) But I guess Viggo character is as "good guy" as Russian can get in Hollywood movies :)
dfcmrf 1 year ago
@dfcmrf Anyway, i'm still glad they made this movie, since there are so few who are actually about the Russian mob. Viggo's also great. He went completely alone to Russia, just to see how people talk and how different the Russian culture is. He did all this not knowing one Russian word. :D But it payed off. Viggo's performance, character and Russian were all good. He actually did most of his research alone. He was the one who 'discovered' that Russian mob gangster usually have tattoos.
YoungZer0 1 year ago 3
@dfcmrf c'mon, it seems like you haven't seen "red heat". D
erghtrfgh 5 months ago
@dfcmrf
At least the Russians in this movie is much better than Runaway Scare
inferno0020 1 year ago
@dfcmrf Yes and that's me : ) How do you want the hot dog?
andi2717 1 year ago
Viggo Mortensen was nominated for an Oscar in this film. i love his character here.
in2universe 1 year ago
@EdwardMerriman360: waow, im so happy that russians are not gangsters in generel, that would be scary :p
MSEfterskole 1 year ago
This is such a shit trailer for such a good movie
FesterCrust 1 year ago
One of my favourite movies of all time, and I hear Dave Cronenberg and Viggo are doing a seqel soon.
TwoNNsB 1 year ago
@TwoNNsB
I'm looking forward the sequel too!
T800System 1 year ago
@TwoNNsB that explains the hanging ending, eh?
cenotaphofmist 10 months ago
ne1 living in theuk and wants to watch this go on bbc iplayer. as it was funded by them they showing it on iplayer. check it out
mabzy2009 1 year ago
I love this movie, gives a real feel of Russian mobsters. Beside the fantastic story the director collected handsome guys, I could accept both, Николай and Сойка (sorrowfully killed at the beginning) as my husband. :))
KirillaLuzhina 1 year ago
A definite must see....
ellipsis000 1 year ago
the mafia is the hardest group of people they dont care who u r how many connections u got they will fuck u up
1. itailan mafia
2. Russian mafia
3. Turkish mafia (The turkish mafia are ruthless mother fuckers they will fucking cut u up like a turkey)
charliecjl 1 year ago
@charliecjl
Yes, decent people call them what they are....criminal scum.
cleverfeller 1 year ago
i remember d day it came out. sep 28 2007... dats also d day i met my first love
im4rm818 1 year ago
shit...is no laughing matter.
chrissstopherG 1 year ago
th title makes no sense but great film nd th naked fight scene was funy as shit
BrandonIsAGoodFella 2 years ago
Are you joking?
Eastern as Russia is in the East of Europe.
Promises as the trafficked girls are promised a new life in wealthy European cities/countries, but they get a life of whoring and misery instead.
Not what was promised.
clazza01 2 years ago
damn riggers
rlinfinity 2 years ago
vory zakone 4 ever
ThePeckerwood310 2 years ago
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GerryBolger 2 years ago
is he seriosly?
snickers22100 2 years ago
Why is it that people complain about Russians so much?
SEAKNIGHTRC 2 years ago
1:52 thats sexy
blkbuttaflychic 2 years ago 3
Viggo Mortensen. 'Nuff said.
lovebaja 2 years ago 4
oh yea....If Viggo is in it, it is going to be good!! XD
ronvins 2 years ago 2
Great film!! - Cronenberg & Viggo - what a combo- hope they do some more films! - Viggo always amazing - and D.C. is working on a level here & in "History of...V." that equals and surpasses Hitchcock even - has become a 'mature' master of film! - as much as i enjoy his earlier films, the more realistic he is, the scarier his movies are - and yeah, the fight scene in the russian bath-house will later be recognized as one of the all-time (or the best) greatest fight scenes in movie history!
sirdoug3 2 years ago 5
Excellent film
SneakyRussian 2 years ago 4
This movie is so amazing. The connection between the characters is astounding.
jennifer0we 3 years ago 9
the fight scene is one of the best in cinema/movie histroy, personally its the 2nd best fight scene i have ever seen (The first best is when titus pullo is fighting in the gladiator arena in the "rome" series)
XIPM3 3 years ago 2
These are real gangsters! Not 50 cent and his boyscout crew!
EdwardMerriman360 3 years ago 81
vory v zakone does not exist anymore, they are ancient history- this movie is good but it does not acurately depict russian mafia at all.
XIPM3 3 years ago
They still exist.
Look on wikipedia.
They've only got bigger and likely don't refer to themselves as "jewel thieves" anymore since their success is staggering.
EdwardMerriman360 3 years ago
wikipedia is the WORST source regarding this subject, you talk to any knowledgeable russian including myself- they will tell you the thieves world is dead, and russian organized crime is controlled by a people of a completely different background. if you really want to learn about true russian organized crime read any of alexander litvinenkos books including "lubyanka criminal group" and "blowing up russia: the secret plot to bring back kgb terror". the tatoos now are nothing but antiquity.
XIPM3 3 years ago
So you are Russian?
Well then, I suppose you have some good points to make, I will read the books you mentioned.
Thanks for your time.
EdwardMerriman360 3 years ago
I have recently been interested in Russian organized crime. So I can assume that GTA 4 is not accurate.
Sharif80 3 years ago
you know what game is some what accurate about russian mafia? hitman 2: silent assassin, surprisingly enough lol. gta? i played it, i dont know if it is acurate or innacurate, the russian mob in the U.S.A is completely different from the russian mafia in russia, but really its a very enigmatic organization, even i dont know that much and i know more than most people- id say the only people who really know about it are CIA, FSB, all those types.
XIPM3 3 years ago
ok thank you
Sharif80 3 years ago
Ты написал полную чушь. Не знаешь не пиши.
Пару книжек прочитал, и думаешь уже профессор.
3uMeXaHa 2 years ago
@XIPM3 I think Cronenberg understands that the Vor is rather old news. My guess? He included the tattoos not because he wanted to portray the Mafia accuratly, it was to give a sense that these criminals, these recent arrivals to London and the west in general, have ways and codes that are steeped in their own history but with out going in to a massive history lesson and doubling the length of the film. It was a creative choice. That's my guess. It ties in with other symbols in the film too.
BlowDeBloodyDoorsOff 1 year ago
so is that supposed to be good then
kathy8757 2 years ago
@EdwardMerriman360
No these are actors for a BBC drama pretending to be real gangsters. Real gangsters are terrorists and psychopaths. Not glamourous, not cool, not heroes just scum.
cleverfeller 1 year ago 40
@cleverfeller Sometimes, but most of the time they do it for money. They break the law and kill for profits. Kind of like savage business men. By the way, no one in this movie is glamorous or a hero.
MrEhsan32 1 year ago
@cleverfeller You disgust me if you think terrorists and psychopaths are gangsters.
I don't see any gangster in blowing people up for religion, or any gangster in killing everyone in my street.
Soophus 1 year ago
@Soophus They're terrorists in that they climb the hierarchy of their little gangs and gain "respect" by spreading terror. Cutting off people's parts, shooting people, beating people, raping people, threatening people. They're psychopaths in that they are even capable of these things and continue to do it. So I would argue that both labels are accurate. That's not to say that all terrorists and psychopaths are gangsters, but that gangsters can certainly embody both descriptions. Get it?
AWickedMind 7 months ago
@EdwardMerriman360
WE ARE NOT GANGSTERS, WE ARE RUSSIANS ! ;)
staso77 1 year ago
@EdwardMerriman360 Yeah man, gangsters are awesome. I've seen them on TV and I wanna be just like one.
bcn533 6 months ago
What is the song playing near the end of the trailer?
anajafali 3 years ago 2
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"Fuck you" by the Fuck Yous. Why is this question repeated over and over again on youtube. Check the fucking soundtrack on youtube. dang!!!!!
mcpartps 3 years ago
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ladydispencer66 4 years ago
fantastic film!!!!! viggo...nicolai!!!!
eugenuZZa 4 years ago 4
Fuck u scumbag!U can only fight with women and children!Russians have always kicked shit out of u, so shut the fuck!
WhiteMoscow14 4 years ago
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LOL Go to hell russian pig!
You killed 250.000 innocent people
mansour456 4 years ago
250.000 MORE!!!
Why are u not among them my little kavkaz-scumbag? =)
WhiteMoscow14 4 years ago
typical russian.why cant you just TRY to be human
kathy8757 2 years ago
its Russian Mafia why do u think the Russian Mafia is the most feared mafia? hum?
think lil bit before u post such dumb post
xXBlackCrowXx 2 years ago
Actually today the most feared mafia is the Mexican Mafia or Drug Cartels. And if you want to go a step beyond, Colombian Guerrilla.
okodorifuto 2 years ago
@okodorifuto that is not true. The russian mob is about five time the size of the mexicans, and they are international. The mexicans only deal drugs and go through one or two nations. The russians are worldwide and have access to weapon the mexins and Columbians only dream about. One russian mobster even tried to sell a russian sub to a colombian drug traffiker. The mexicans and colombians are generally afraid of the russians.
bradleygt1070 2 years ago
I was talking about "The most feared" And the Mexican drug cartels and today and by far they are the most feared at least here in Mexico and in the USA. USA is giving money to the Mexican Goverment so they can fight them. "El Cartel del Golfo" and "The zetas" are today the second most brutal and savage criminal organization to tread the US. Al Qaeda being the first one of course.
okodorifuto 2 years ago
@okodorifuto
They may be the most feared, but hell no are they the most respected. There is no respect left these days. Anyone that has a gun and fires it is a gangster, and the mexiacans do just this. They have no regard for inecent life, if they get in the way, they die.
Sick, but true. No princible, no God, no nothing.
CubeLuda 1 year ago
@okodorifuto
are u stupid the not even cosa nostra can fcuk wit the RED mafia they r the most ruthless & merciless organization ever n they dont deal only drugs n they r global as bradly said if u can make a profit of it the bratva can get it 4 u.
вор в законе
suprakidd11 1 year ago
Yeah kid, whatever.
okodorifuto 1 year ago
The drug cartels don't count as a "Mafia", actually. The cartels might be the most powerful but that is because they have such strong ties with the horribly corrupt Mexican government. As who is feared for the methods, financial power, and size, then it would be either the Russian Mob or the Yakuza. I only say Yakuza because they have been around for an extremely long time. The Italians are intense too but they're more focused on the money than the murder.
SithianHawk 1 year ago
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He kills 2 chechens
naked in a sauna!
LOL a russian would run away
unrealistic
mansour456 4 years ago
hah, chechens are noobs
gondolinwarrior 4 years ago
yeah.......right
angelique94 3 years ago
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XIPM3 3 years ago
IMO, this is a great great movie and I'd recommend it, expecially for the quality of actors' performances. Viggo Mortensen and Vincent Cassel are awesome.
IdrilEarfalas 4 years ago
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Save your time, the movie is terrible
81skiskiski 4 years ago
ja very good movie but i hated the ending
FallenAngelXII 4 years ago
this movie is so good
Luchkow 4 years ago 2
Just saw the movie this evening. Bloody good film!
DaanieBoy 4 years ago 3
Why the hell is this movie so hard to find?lol...I really want to see it but it's not playing anywhere in my area except for like one theater and it's always playing late at night there.
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They make it sound like he's the best quarterback that ever was. They just wanna send a message out to all the Black QBs...you'll never be worshiped like out precious white boys
suggarshawnray 4 years ago
Looking forward to it
derberger7 4 years ago