Very interdisciplinary presentation. Thank you. Imagine if we had the all the minds needed to occupy every post in every scientific endeavor. We'd be unstoppable.
@LeftWingPOG Um... I never said they didn't... Was there something in the video that gave you this impression? I'm happy to clarify if that's the case.
@Tioliah My fellow liberal PC sister, you keep beating around the bush, as do so many other people with these videos..and THATs the issue! We all need to be more vocal, come out and say it!!
@LeftWingPOG Neither masturbation nor female sexuality were the focus of the video - I was discussing sexual pleasure as it pertains to mammals, placing humans in that wider context. Given the broader perspective I was shooting for, this was not the time to explore gender specifics (later projects/vids). As such, I kept my examples and terminology as inclusive as possible, and tried not to be biased towards a specific gender (sorry if you thought I was).
@Tioliah Okay, Please do a video about female sexuality, dispelling the myth about women and masturbation. Also, I'm looking for new ways to do it, new ideas. I've been thinking of getting into porno to get back at my ex boyfriend.
The true scientific question is who has more pleasure from sex women or men?it's true that men on the average want sex more than women.But when a woman likes copulating and can feel orgasim frequently,and I am not speaking about those women who are frigid or have a weak sexual sensitivity here<the answer seems to be the opposite,at least judging by women's cries and spontaneous mouvements during coitus.
@AndreiYudin70 The experience of pleasure can be scientifically understood, but quantifying that experience in individuals is another thing altogether. I haven't yet come across a study that clearly shows a greater physiological capacity for sexual pleasure in males or females (e.g. men are also capable of multiple/prolonged orgasms). Sexual sensitivity is influenced by many other variables besides gender (culture, psychology, genetics, etc.) it's tricky teasing them all apart.
@Tioliah There is not any literature on the subject,I've never heard or read anything about that.The idea to compare woman's and man's pleasure came into my head just about half a year ago.For the moment I can state the following:
1.the sexual sensation during coitus is stronger with Felidae males than with Felidae females.
2.among other mammals species it can't be said whoose sensation is stronger,male's or female's
@AndreiYudin70 That is very interesting! I didn't know that about cats (and I wonder if there are evolutionary reasons - pity similar work hasn't been done on other taxa). Could I ask you a favour and send me the study/reference in a PM? This is a subject I have a strong hobby interest in, and I'd love to look into this more :-) Thanks!
@Tioliah Unfortunately,I can't give you any reference about Felidae.In the most authoritative works on sexology it's written that animals don't feel orgasim.But you can see and hear it yourself here on Youtube,just make :animals mating.You'll hear Lion and Leopardus males crying from orgasim.
@AndreiYudin70 No worries, at some point I'll be making an orgasm video, and I'll see if I can find the cat studies on my own for that. Whether or not animals experience orgasm depends on how you define an "orgasm" and what it means to "feel" one - not as clear as some might think, lol. Thanks a lot for all the comments and cool info!
@Tioliah In my simple view,orgasim is a discharging of psychomotoric tension.The more one is strained psychically the stronger his sensation is.Logically,the sexual pleasure must be stronger with more excitable persons than with less excitable ones.
As to cats,a cat male doesn't react on a mice during copulation whereas a cat female does.It means,she is sexually indifferent like lots of women are during coitus with men.
@Tioliah 3.among humans it can be quantified using comparison of man's and woman's reaction on pang,for example if we pique both the partners.their spontaneous reaction expressing in cries and body flinching will be of more or less the same intensity.So watching a couple having sex (it's important that they do not know that) we can deduce from their sounds and spontaneous body movements at the peak of sexual pleasure exactly whose sensation is more vivid and overwhelming.
@AndreiYudin70 Interesting... have these behavioural differences in vocal activity & movement been linked in some way to the pleasure systems in the brain (e.g. greater surges of certain brain neurohormones in females vs. males)?
@Tioliah Asking because there is a link between vocal activity and reward hormones in other species - male mice will sing courtship songs after sniffing an oxytocin laced cue-tip even when there's no female present, for example.
@AndreiYudin70 Sorry, just wondering if in humans, sounds during coitus have been linked to brain chemicals that influence the sensation of pleasure (since there is evidence for this in other mammals - and in birds too). Your English is quite good, btw :-)
@Tioliah There is another interesting point as regards man's and woman's orgasim.A woman to reach orgasim ALWAYS needs stimulation of erogenic zones - vagina,clitor,rarely nipples etc.But some men need not.They are ables to ejaculate for example sucking and licking woman's feet,vulva or even just showing their penis to women as it is the case with some exgibitionists.
@Tioliah clitor is sexually sensitive whereas vagina is not or very weakly sensitive with about 25% women.I ask myself how such an abnormality could emerge evolutionally?Animals,unlike humans,never stimulate female's clitor.
@Tioliah hHence,my answer is :in a couple where both the partners like each other and the woman feels orgasim during intercourse,it's her who feels a stronger sensation and pleasure correspondingly during sex.
I'll have to make sure my girlfriend sees this...and I was growing depressed over my recent hair loss, but maybe I just need to sign up for swimming lessons.
@FromUnderTheRock Haha! Unfortunately, the hair-loss/water thing doesn't work for humans - cetaceans are unique in that sense :-) Though I have heard of this odd thing called the "aquatic ape hypothesis"...
@CousinoMacul Lol, I know - as an amateur free diver I do have a mild fantasy fondness for it (as does my balding uncle), but I find some people who take the AAH seriously cling to it with an uncannily creationist-like grip :-P hmm... I sense another potential future video project...
I don't like the framing "procreation is the 'purpose' of sex". I prefer to frame it (and I think you might agree with me) as "behaviors and physiology that increase the probability of successful procreation are preferentially selected for."
Also, I disagree with your reasoning for hair loss in marine mammals. Hair loss (as well as feather loss in birds) tends to be correlated more with need for heat dissipation than anything else. This is why smaller marine mammals such as otters, monotremes, smaller seals, etc. still have body hair, yet larger land mammals don't.
@CousinoMacul This is the case for terrestrial mammals, but is less consistent among cetaceans and pinnipeds. Unlike early hippos & sirenians, archaeocetes were piscivorous and evolving towards a more pelagic/deeper foraging niche that required increased insulation. Blubber insulates while also streamlining without messing up buoyancy the way dense fur does when your depth is highly variable. Hair is likely maintained in the more aquatic pinnipeds (phocids), despite blubber being the ....
@CousinoMacul … primary insulator, to reduce skin abrasion on land, insulate pups, & for sexual reasons. Cetaceans are unique in that they adapted relatively quickly to a near permanent aquatic predatory lifestyle (without many semi-aquatic phases) characterized by agile locomotion, & have skin features specialized for reducing friction. Large size mostly evolved after aquatic transition and tends to be associated with deeper divers and mysticetes (for cardiorespiratory and dietary reasons).
@CousinoMacul Very true! Intercourse is a physical process that evolved to facilitate fertilization (hence my use of the word 'purpose', though I think 'function' would have been better), but the behaviours that have evolved to encourage it are, in many mammals, adaptive for social reasons too. People (especially very religious people) tend either to forget or are ignorant of that…
Very good vis thanks
and on a sidenote: once again, "moral" conservatives get their repressed arses handed to them :P
IVscythia 3 days ago
Very interdisciplinary presentation. Thank you. Imagine if we had the all the minds needed to occupy every post in every scientific endeavor. We'd be unstoppable.
AtheistRex 1 week ago
Outstanding.
Ansonidak 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from Tioliah
Hey, enjoy all your pleasure while it lasts!! lol
iluvtoargue 7 months ago
Liked the the smile when you said "If the Mrs is hungry". very good video.
TheFeltbegone 1 year ago
Women masturbate too you know! I'm gonna keep saying this cause people dont seem to know!!!
LeftWingPOG 1 year ago
@LeftWingPOG Um... I never said they didn't... Was there something in the video that gave you this impression? I'm happy to clarify if that's the case.
Tioliah 1 year ago
@Tioliah My fellow liberal PC sister, you keep beating around the bush, as do so many other people with these videos..and THATs the issue! We all need to be more vocal, come out and say it!!
LeftWingPOG 1 year ago
@LeftWingPOG Neither masturbation nor female sexuality were the focus of the video - I was discussing sexual pleasure as it pertains to mammals, placing humans in that wider context. Given the broader perspective I was shooting for, this was not the time to explore gender specifics (later projects/vids). As such, I kept my examples and terminology as inclusive as possible, and tried not to be biased towards a specific gender (sorry if you thought I was).
Tioliah 1 year ago
@Tioliah Okay, Please do a video about female sexuality, dispelling the myth about women and masturbation. Also, I'm looking for new ways to do it, new ideas. I've been thinking of getting into porno to get back at my ex boyfriend.
LeftWingPOG 1 year ago
Nice video. Cool channel you got there! LithodidMan sent me. What a good dude ;-)
skinnyjohnsen 1 year ago
Exceptional video! I may take this as motivation to add to my series on sexual biology....
LithodidMan 1 year ago
The true scientific question is who has more pleasure from sex women or men?it's true that men on the average want sex more than women.But when a woman likes copulating and can feel orgasim frequently,and I am not speaking about those women who are frigid or have a weak sexual sensitivity here<the answer seems to be the opposite,at least judging by women's cries and spontaneous mouvements during coitus.
AndreiYudin70 1 year ago
@AndreiYudin70 The experience of pleasure can be scientifically understood, but quantifying that experience in individuals is another thing altogether. I haven't yet come across a study that clearly shows a greater physiological capacity for sexual pleasure in males or females (e.g. men are also capable of multiple/prolonged orgasms). Sexual sensitivity is influenced by many other variables besides gender (culture, psychology, genetics, etc.) it's tricky teasing them all apart.
Tioliah 1 year ago
@Tioliah The important things is that all intensities of sexual pleasure in all genders are natural, and should be enjoyed without shame :-)
Tioliah 1 year ago
@Tioliah There is not any literature on the subject,I've never heard or read anything about that.The idea to compare woman's and man's pleasure came into my head just about half a year ago.For the moment I can state the following:
1.the sexual sensation during coitus is stronger with Felidae males than with Felidae females.
2.among other mammals species it can't be said whoose sensation is stronger,male's or female's
AndreiYudin70 1 year ago
@AndreiYudin70 That is very interesting! I didn't know that about cats (and I wonder if there are evolutionary reasons - pity similar work hasn't been done on other taxa). Could I ask you a favour and send me the study/reference in a PM? This is a subject I have a strong hobby interest in, and I'd love to look into this more :-) Thanks!
Tioliah 1 year ago
@Tioliah Unfortunately,I can't give you any reference about Felidae.In the most authoritative works on sexology it's written that animals don't feel orgasim.But you can see and hear it yourself here on Youtube,just make :animals mating.You'll hear Lion and Leopardus males crying from orgasim.
AndreiYudin70 1 year ago
@AndreiYudin70 No worries, at some point I'll be making an orgasm video, and I'll see if I can find the cat studies on my own for that. Whether or not animals experience orgasm depends on how you define an "orgasm" and what it means to "feel" one - not as clear as some might think, lol. Thanks a lot for all the comments and cool info!
Tioliah 1 year ago
@Tioliah In my simple view,orgasim is a discharging of psychomotoric tension.The more one is strained psychically the stronger his sensation is.Logically,the sexual pleasure must be stronger with more excitable persons than with less excitable ones.
As to cats,a cat male doesn't react on a mice during copulation whereas a cat female does.It means,she is sexually indifferent like lots of women are during coitus with men.
AndreiYudin70 1 year ago
@Tioliah 3.among humans it can be quantified using comparison of man's and woman's reaction on pang,for example if we pique both the partners.their spontaneous reaction expressing in cries and body flinching will be of more or less the same intensity.So watching a couple having sex (it's important that they do not know that) we can deduce from their sounds and spontaneous body movements at the peak of sexual pleasure exactly whose sensation is more vivid and overwhelming.
AndreiYudin70 1 year ago
@AndreiYudin70 Interesting... have these behavioural differences in vocal activity & movement been linked in some way to the pleasure systems in the brain (e.g. greater surges of certain brain neurohormones in females vs. males)?
Tioliah 1 year ago
@Tioliah Asking because there is a link between vocal activity and reward hormones in other species - male mice will sing courtship songs after sniffing an oxytocin laced cue-tip even when there's no female present, for example.
Tioliah 1 year ago
@Tioliah that's already too difficult for my English.
AndreiYudin70 1 year ago
@AndreiYudin70 Sorry, just wondering if in humans, sounds during coitus have been linked to brain chemicals that influence the sensation of pleasure (since there is evidence for this in other mammals - and in birds too). Your English is quite good, btw :-)
Tioliah 1 year ago
@Tioliah There is another interesting point as regards man's and woman's orgasim.A woman to reach orgasim ALWAYS needs stimulation of erogenic zones - vagina,clitor,rarely nipples etc.But some men need not.They are ables to ejaculate for example sucking and licking woman's feet,vulva or even just showing their penis to women as it is the case with some exgibitionists.
AndreiYudin70 1 year ago
@Tioliah clitor is sexually sensitive whereas vagina is not or very weakly sensitive with about 25% women.I ask myself how such an abnormality could emerge evolutionally?Animals,unlike humans,never stimulate female's clitor.
AndreiYudin70 1 year ago
@Tioliah hHence,my answer is :in a couple where both the partners like each other and the woman feels orgasim during intercourse,it's her who feels a stronger sensation and pleasure correspondingly during sex.
AndreiYudin70 1 year ago
Brilliant video; faved
niriop 1 year ago
I'll have to make sure my girlfriend sees this...and I was growing depressed over my recent hair loss, but maybe I just need to sign up for swimming lessons.
FromUnderTheRock 1 year ago
@FromUnderTheRock Haha! Unfortunately, the hair-loss/water thing doesn't work for humans - cetaceans are unique in that sense :-) Though I have heard of this odd thing called the "aquatic ape hypothesis"...
Tioliah 1 year ago
@Tioliah The AAH is mildly seductive, but complete bunk.
aquaticape[DOT]org
:-)
CousinoMacul 1 year ago
@CousinoMacul Lol, I know - as an amateur free diver I do have a mild fantasy fondness for it (as does my balding uncle), but I find some people who take the AAH seriously cling to it with an uncannily creationist-like grip :-P hmm... I sense another potential future video project...
Tioliah 1 year ago
Great vid!
AtheistInTheHat 1 year ago
excellent video :)
tattooskin72 1 year ago
Good video!
I don't like the framing "procreation is the 'purpose' of sex". I prefer to frame it (and I think you might agree with me) as "behaviors and physiology that increase the probability of successful procreation are preferentially selected for."
CousinoMacul 1 year ago
Also, I disagree with your reasoning for hair loss in marine mammals. Hair loss (as well as feather loss in birds) tends to be correlated more with need for heat dissipation than anything else. This is why smaller marine mammals such as otters, monotremes, smaller seals, etc. still have body hair, yet larger land mammals don't.
CousinoMacul 1 year ago
@CousinoMacul This is the case for terrestrial mammals, but is less consistent among cetaceans and pinnipeds. Unlike early hippos & sirenians, archaeocetes were piscivorous and evolving towards a more pelagic/deeper foraging niche that required increased insulation. Blubber insulates while also streamlining without messing up buoyancy the way dense fur does when your depth is highly variable. Hair is likely maintained in the more aquatic pinnipeds (phocids), despite blubber being the ....
Tioliah 1 year ago
@CousinoMacul … primary insulator, to reduce skin abrasion on land, insulate pups, & for sexual reasons. Cetaceans are unique in that they adapted relatively quickly to a near permanent aquatic predatory lifestyle (without many semi-aquatic phases) characterized by agile locomotion, & have skin features specialized for reducing friction. Large size mostly evolved after aquatic transition and tends to be associated with deeper divers and mysticetes (for cardiorespiratory and dietary reasons).
Tioliah 1 year ago
@CousinoMacul Very true! Intercourse is a physical process that evolved to facilitate fertilization (hence my use of the word 'purpose', though I think 'function' would have been better), but the behaviours that have evolved to encourage it are, in many mammals, adaptive for social reasons too. People (especially very religious people) tend either to forget or are ignorant of that…
Tioliah 1 year ago