i only use 5 or 6 pedals and usually only one is on at a time and thats just for solos. sometimes 2 if i want to have a wah solo or univibe or sometimes delay (hardly ever use it). so i guess this isnt for me.
(con't from below) From the Output Jack On Your Guitar to Your Cabs..try to find rack units with dedicated fx loops and dynamic range < -90 db; preferably < -100 db. Also, Don't skimp on cabling..one cheap cab cable can make you sound like trash...kinda like golf...a custom set of clubs won't have you shooting par, but a set that doesn't fit will find you fishing
signal paths have always been the key to great tone and presence, particularly at high volume..every tech, player, engineer and producer has their own 'secrets,' but I have moved to a more practical approach...use relatively inexpensive rack units (tc m-300; Hafler T-2; Carvin Quad-X) to shape your tone; control them with MIDI and steer the output thru a decent tube amp (Carvin Tube 100 for me) and then to decent cabs (Boogie 1x12's work great) and mic or go live..but Know Your Signal Path
from the line selector a lead to the combo amp. Will a power conditioner sort this out ? im thinking it could be a ground loop, but im just a dumb ass guitar player, can some one please point me in the right direction
the problem i have is, i have troulble getting my boost for soloing. I run a Soldano SLO 100 head through quads, overdrive pedal, wah and boss tuner pedal. to get the boost i use a Soldano combo. the signal path is, slave out of slo100 to boss line selector set in a b position. this works fine exept this incurs a pretty nasty hum. my only solution is to run combo(boost amp) from another power circuit and power the line selector with a battery. is there a way to do this on one single circuit.
hi everyone, im in a group called Vigorous Ice Blue Eyes or just V.I.B.E. for short, if you have a spare 2-3 minutes, we would just really appreciate it if you took the time out to just give us a listen and let us know what we need to work on
we're two 15 year olds, one of us writes lyrics raps, the other one sings and produces, please check out our channel and let us know what you think
@guitardaze Hi. This sistem is awesome ! You are right. For musicians this kind of sistem is the best. of corse that a simple pedalboard with everything you need in front of you is a good way to do it. But, sometimes you need two delays, ( for example ) with diferent setings. With a simple pedalboard like this, you have to work hard live and sometimes you have to change setings in the pedals during your performance. In this aspect, have a mounted rack sistem is very usefull.
why are people bashing his attitude toward pedalboards? everyone knows that if you have too many things clogging your signal path, it's gonna junk up your sound...what he's saying is nothing more than common sense...pedalboards work for a lot of people who have figured out how to make them sound good, but that's not what his company does....so why would he yammer on about how great he thinks pedalboards are? pedalboards are his competition...
Why does Bob have to be so SOUR & patronising towards pedalboards and custom-built effects pedals? While his reasons for using rackmounted systems are very reasonable, his attitude towards pedalboards is really off-putting.
To answer your question Igknightus, yes you can. There is a lot of flexability with this kind of system.....it's basically taylored the way you want it but gives you the positive advantage of switching things in multiple to avoid a tapdance on stage and eliminate noise.
Not relying on patch cords? Can someone help explain that? How can he push a signal thru so many pieces and not lose signal strength? Would appreciate any input.
I read an article one time where they explained.....
They don't use patch cords of the kind that we associate with. The system is basically hand wired using high quality cables with common grounds to avoid loop issues and eliminate hum. In some cases if a large amount of gear is involved, they would use a buffer, etc to increase or stabilize the signal. It's a very involved system and definately NOT cheap!
......way more than most of us can afford unless we're in a band selling a million CDs a year! Not sure I would want to go this route anyways - unless you have your own personal guitar tech, you can't make any alterations to your gear or simplify the setup. What you get stays the way it is.
@wannabehendrix Bob's system would probably incorporate buffers where signal loss or impedance mismatch were an issue. He might just use a Boss pedal near the end of the signal chain as a "buffer".
You sure see a lot of Boss gear in these pro rigs so I'm merely guessing.
I use a GCX with Ground Control Pro. Same thing he's talking about basically. It's a life changing setup for any guitar player. The best part is really eliminating the pedal dancing (multiple effects on or off with one touch of the a preset switch). Mine even switches my amp channels.
@thatotherguy9782 Peter Frampton does, mainly because he's had so many records and used so many different effects on each one, he needs a crap-load of pedals to accurately recreate the sound for different songs
(fisrt sorry for my english) Can anybody tell me something? I have pedals in pedal board (maxon real overdrive, od 3 boos chorus... etc.), i know that i can swiching them with ground control, but can this system remember one type of delay for one song, and than another from pedal....????
(fisrt sorry for my english) Can anybody tell me something? I have pedals in pedal board (maxon real overdrive, od 3 boos chorus... etc.), i know that i can swiching them with ground control, but can this system remember one type of delay for one song, and than another from pedal....????
I have one complaint about this.....What if, like me, you like the colored tone you are getting from the pedals being hooked up in a certian order? Such as the muddy ness you get from your delay by hooking it infront of your distortion....you know kinda eric johnson like...can you still get that from this system?
@igknightus, you can have your system built to that ability, that's how I had mine set up. all my pedals are in succesion, my switcher controls them without changing my sound.
@igknightus don't complain about shit that you have no clue what you're talking about. If you had a better understanding of electronics you would know that yes, no shit you can do that at the drop of a switch
Yeah you can, via pedals between guitar and amp. Either with or withouth his midi switchable looping system. With such a complicated system you can basically decide where to place all your effects and how they relate to the amps in the chain. That's why it is so complicated. A lot of the rack gear needs a lot of programming and finetuning too. But basically placing a delay in front of the amp is probably on of the more easy actions in setting up such a system ;).
Yeah you can, via pedals between guitar and amp. Either with or withouth his midi switchable looping system. With such a complicated system you can basically decide where to place all your effects and how they relate to the amps in the chain. That's why it is so complicated. A lot of the rack gear needs a lot of programming and finetuning too. But basically placing a delay in front of the amp is probably one of the more easy actions in setting up such a system ;).
@igknightus because this is modular you should be able to program it that way. You could have a change of effects you like patched in serial as you suggested and have it at the ready when you want it, with one switch of the controller... Any other combo of effects can then be set up on other devices.
@igknightus put the pedals that achieve that effect into one loop and use other loops for other characteristics. Analyse ur rig - maybe its just one or two pedals that make the effect. Isolate those in a loop for that effect or put them before or after everything else. If its a certain eq characteristic u like maybe that can be obtained through eq which doesnt subtract from the direct signal. Often its the "softer" feel people like about boards - not how they end up sounding in live mix
i only use 5 or 6 pedals and usually only one is on at a time and thats just for solos. sometimes 2 if i want to have a wah solo or univibe or sometimes delay (hardly ever use it). so i guess this isnt for me.
timmy47 1 week ago
A great concept. But it costs a small fortune. And you need to know how to program & trouble shoot it.
MrUltraworld 2 weeks ago
(con't from below) From the Output Jack On Your Guitar to Your Cabs..try to find rack units with dedicated fx loops and dynamic range < -90 db; preferably < -100 db. Also, Don't skimp on cabling..one cheap cab cable can make you sound like trash...kinda like golf...a custom set of clubs won't have you shooting par, but a set that doesn't fit will find you fishing
mwaggy1 3 weeks ago
signal paths have always been the key to great tone and presence, particularly at high volume..every tech, player, engineer and producer has their own 'secrets,' but I have moved to a more practical approach...use relatively inexpensive rack units (tc m-300; Hafler T-2; Carvin Quad-X) to shape your tone; control them with MIDI and steer the output thru a decent tube amp (Carvin Tube 100 for me) and then to decent cabs (Boogie 1x12's work great) and mic or go live..but Know Your Signal Path
mwaggy1 3 weeks ago
nice takes
GuitarArtStudio 2 months ago
from the line selector a lead to the combo amp. Will a power conditioner sort this out ? im thinking it could be a ground loop, but im just a dumb ass guitar player, can some one please point me in the right direction
concretedreadlocks 2 months ago
the problem i have is, i have troulble getting my boost for soloing. I run a Soldano SLO 100 head through quads, overdrive pedal, wah and boss tuner pedal. to get the boost i use a Soldano combo. the signal path is, slave out of slo100 to boss line selector set in a b position. this works fine exept this incurs a pretty nasty hum. my only solution is to run combo(boost amp) from another power circuit and power the line selector with a battery. is there a way to do this on one single circuit.
concretedreadlocks 2 months ago
cant wait for some company to bring out an affordable version!!!!
jwalsh8 3 months ago
Warning!
This sort of stuff can give a guitarist a boner.
thecactustube 3 months ago
3:35 over and over again...
guir0 5 months ago
Showbiz makes unimportant things seem over the top.
CroissantOrange 8 months ago 2
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hi everyone, im in a group called Vigorous Ice Blue Eyes or just V.I.B.E. for short, if you have a spare 2-3 minutes, we would just really appreciate it if you took the time out to just give us a listen and let us know what we need to work on
we're two 15 year olds, one of us writes lyrics raps, the other one sings and produces, please check out our channel and let us know what you think
legendaryicecream 8 months ago
looks like lukather brought a hell lot of players to bradshaw :)
pfftw 8 months ago
I would love this if I was a touring musician. But why would I want to drag that big old rack around playing fairs weddings and bars..........
guitardaze 9 months ago
@guitardaze well this wasn't made for weddings and bars...
Pianoblacks 9 months ago
@guitardaze Hi. This sistem is awesome ! You are right. For musicians this kind of sistem is the best. of corse that a simple pedalboard with everything you need in front of you is a good way to do it. But, sometimes you need two delays, ( for example ) with diferent setings. With a simple pedalboard like this, you have to work hard live and sometimes you have to change setings in the pedals during your performance. In this aspect, have a mounted rack sistem is very usefull.
deluxereverb65 9 months ago
why are people bashing his attitude toward pedalboards? everyone knows that if you have too many things clogging your signal path, it's gonna junk up your sound...what he's saying is nothing more than common sense...pedalboards work for a lot of people who have figured out how to make them sound good, but that's not what his company does....so why would he yammer on about how great he thinks pedalboards are? pedalboards are his competition...
manifestgtr 10 months ago
Bob Bradshaw is the man
flyingsquirrel73 10 months ago
Still love my "oldschool" pedalboard.
1. If you take short wires, your amp's "send and return" and bufferd or hardwire bypasses your tone will also be clean.
2. if you build your board into a flightcase you just need to take one thing from gig to gig instead of a gigant rak like that.
3. look at tom morellos board and you know the trues
TR1VO5 10 months ago
Why does Bob have to be so SOUR & patronising towards pedalboards and custom-built effects pedals? While his reasons for using rackmounted systems are very reasonable, his attitude towards pedalboards is really off-putting.
petejt 10 months ago
Would prefer products from GLAB . You get the same for a normal price
p9hunter 11 months ago
To answer your question Igknightus, yes you can. There is a lot of flexability with this kind of system.....it's basically taylored the way you want it but gives you the positive advantage of switching things in multiple to avoid a tapdance on stage and eliminate noise.
rockarollaman90 1 year ago
Not relying on patch cords? Can someone help explain that? How can he push a signal thru so many pieces and not lose signal strength? Would appreciate any input.
wannabehendrix 1 year ago
@wannabehendrix
I read an article one time where they explained.....
They don't use patch cords of the kind that we associate with. The system is basically hand wired using high quality cables with common grounds to avoid loop issues and eliminate hum. In some cases if a large amount of gear is involved, they would use a buffer, etc to increase or stabilize the signal. It's a very involved system and definately NOT cheap!
rockarollaman90 1 year ago
@rockarollaman90 Way more than I can afford brother!!! Thanks
wannabehendrix 1 year ago
@wannabehendrix
......way more than most of us can afford unless we're in a band selling a million CDs a year! Not sure I would want to go this route anyways - unless you have your own personal guitar tech, you can't make any alterations to your gear or simplify the setup. What you get stays the way it is.
rockarollaman90 1 year ago
@wannabehendrix Bob's system would probably incorporate buffers where signal loss or impedance mismatch were an issue. He might just use a Boss pedal near the end of the signal chain as a "buffer".
You sure see a lot of Boss gear in these pro rigs so I'm merely guessing.
NoelGrassy 11 months ago
as i remember, Gilmour's pedalboard is made by Pete Cornish
Motofiery 1 year ago
@Motofiery You would be correct sir!
wannabehendrix 1 year ago
@Motofiery
That is what I misunderstood too. I thought he ever made it with Pete Cornish.
heliobluesrock 1 year ago
Amazing systems
brajola 1 year ago
This man is a true genius!!
subjulio 1 year ago 2
I use a GCX with Ground Control Pro. Same thing he's talking about basically. It's a life changing setup for any guitar player. The best part is really eliminating the pedal dancing (multiple effects on or off with one touch of the a preset switch). Mine even switches my amp channels.
thacrackfox 1 year ago
This guy is lucky!
KeTeVemCovers 1 year ago
very useful information... I usually use a regular pedalboard. How ever. I am beggining to like this guys approach to effects pedals
stratman7000 1 year ago
Whos better Pete Cornish or Bradshaw?
helpdonate1 1 year ago
why can't these people get the level between narration and music right?
HackerGuitarist 1 year ago
just AN AXE FX WITH SHIT IS DEAD...SORRY
mniel8195 1 year ago
who tours with that many damn pedals jesus
thatotherguy9782 1 year ago
@thatotherguy9782 Peter Frampton does, mainly because he's had so many records and used so many different effects on each one, he needs a crap-load of pedals to accurately recreate the sound for different songs
BradSpead7 1 year ago
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(fisrt sorry for my english) Can anybody tell me something? I have pedals in pedal board (maxon real overdrive, od 3 boos chorus... etc.), i know that i can swiching them with ground control, but can this system remember one type of delay for one song, and than another from pedal....????
slobodanulaz 1 year ago
(fisrt sorry for my english) Can anybody tell me something? I have pedals in pedal board (maxon real overdrive, od 3 boos chorus... etc.), i know that i can swiching them with ground control, but can this system remember one type of delay for one song, and than another from pedal....????
slobodanulaz 1 year ago
@slobodanulaz hi
no when you have single pedals it doesnt remeber your delay time
a7xflo 1 year ago
3:07 i want to have that room with all this amazing stuff only for myself
NailedSolo 1 year ago
how do i get a job working for this company?
CommBreakDown 1 year ago
3:34 If all my pedals were true bypassed. Would it get that sound then?
uffelykkekristensen 1 year ago
i agree and i dissagree
projectno5 1 year ago
Very good Info. Thanks for posting.
1dockthorwho23 1 year ago
how many lives takes to pay all these?
Alessandoctor 2 years ago 30
LOL!
dwarvenforge 1 year ago
@Alessandoctor they're not as bad as you might think. not cheap, but in reality, its just a patchbay that is MIDI controlled.
zep4life 1 year ago
@Alessandoctor nah .. just two or three... lol
MrNebelful 1 year ago
Dude is an absolute genius!
fender51503 2 years ago
What if i dont play through a PA system
bquinn100 2 years ago
I have one complaint about this.....What if, like me, you like the colored tone you are getting from the pedals being hooked up in a certian order? Such as the muddy ness you get from your delay by hooking it infront of your distortion....you know kinda eric johnson like...can you still get that from this system?
igknightus 2 years ago 18
@igknightus you just tell him what you want and he'll do it for you.. its custom made to your liking.!! any stup any way U want it.
MassimoPetrucci 2 years ago
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gtrdude777 1 year ago
@igknightus, you can have your system built to that ability, that's how I had mine set up. all my pedals are in succesion, my switcher controls them without changing my sound.
gtrdude777 1 year ago
@igknightus
Then you put it in that series order in the loops of the switching router.
zachman5150 1 year ago
@igknightus don't complain about shit that you have no clue what you're talking about. If you had a better understanding of electronics you would know that yes, no shit you can do that at the drop of a switch
loveredhotchilipeppe 1 year ago
@igknightus.
Yeah you can, via pedals between guitar and amp. Either with or withouth his midi switchable looping system. With such a complicated system you can basically decide where to place all your effects and how they relate to the amps in the chain. That's why it is so complicated. A lot of the rack gear needs a lot of programming and finetuning too. But basically placing a delay in front of the amp is probably on of the more easy actions in setting up such a system ;).
TheKassie1987 11 months ago
@igknightus.
Yeah you can, via pedals between guitar and amp. Either with or withouth his midi switchable looping system. With such a complicated system you can basically decide where to place all your effects and how they relate to the amps in the chain. That's why it is so complicated. A lot of the rack gear needs a lot of programming and finetuning too. But basically placing a delay in front of the amp is probably one of the more easy actions in setting up such a system ;).
TheKassie1987 11 months ago
@igknightus I think yes, LOL
giorgiocesaroni 11 months ago
@igknightus yeah,voodoo lab has something called The Pedalswitcher,its has true bypass and buffered inputs and outputs =D,hope this helps men
live2shredguy 6 months ago
@igknightus because this is modular you should be able to program it that way. You could have a change of effects you like patched in serial as you suggested and have it at the ready when you want it, with one switch of the controller... Any other combo of effects can then be set up on other devices.
PilferMusic 4 months ago
@igknightus If you like it the old way, why get this system?
pfloydguy 3 months ago
@igknightus put the pedals that achieve that effect into one loop and use other loops for other characteristics. Analyse ur rig - maybe its just one or two pedals that make the effect. Isolate those in a loop for that effect or put them before or after everything else. If its a certain eq characteristic u like maybe that can be obtained through eq which doesnt subtract from the direct signal. Often its the "softer" feel people like about boards - not how they end up sounding in live mix
whynottalklikeapirat 3 weeks ago
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fragment7 5 days ago
@igknightus then put a delay pedal infront of your amp?
fragment7 5 days ago
Bob's the man...it is more affordable than you may think. I love my bradshaw pedalboard
adhunt3007 2 years ago
that is serious stuff!!. It blew the shit out of my (before this) so proud home made pedalboard...
kemele 2 years ago