There's no hate like God's hate. Shirley just confirms my hypothesis that God only created us so that He could burn us. He's just a big kid with a magnifying glass on a sunny day and we're nothing but ants.
These peoples only source of income is getting people so mad they take a swing at them. Then these church people sue. They are all lawyers. It is all about money. Spread the word so others don't fall into their trap!!!
I also find it interesting that this Shirley Phelps can call herself a "servant of God" yet she says a** (cuss word) and admits to watching a rated R movie....hmmm not to get all self rightous If you are going to preach hell fire you best watch your testimony or you make urself look like an idiot. Being mindful of what we watch and how we talk are BASIC principles of being "a servant of God". I'm wondering why the Church has not spoken out about this, she make a mockery of the Word of God.
they are clowing this lady the whole time and she has no idea or maybe she does, they are making a fool out of her and she is making a fool out of herself. Not once have I heard this lady in any video or interview tell people about Jesus Christ, His Cross or Salvation. NEVER ONCE HAVE A HEARD THIS LADY PREACH THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL. False prophet, False prophet false prophet, false prophet. I'M GOING TO PICKET HER AND HER ORGANIZATION.
@ninajahan she was asked that in a different documentary and her response was that her dad was severly pissed and she had to repent and not continue to sin anymore and today she is not sinning, because she sees that her sin was wrong.
Unfortunately,if she can sin and repent and go to heaven why does she not think anyone else can do the same?
And she says her dad is the product of an adulterous relationship...She was unmarried when she had her first son. Last I checked adultery and premarital sex were equally terrible for these people. She acts like she's so much better than everyone else, just because she repented. Yet she doesn't give anyone else the chance to admit they made a mistake in the past.
Shirley is my favourite of the Phelps. She seems like the smartest, even though I have heard her backtrack in some of her statements and there are so many wholes in her beliefs. And she is so condescending it's funny. And when she said he should put a sign outside his building instead of just telling people about Christ. That was priceless.
i like shirley. she's obviously brainwashed, but at least she has the courage to say what she thinks even though people disagree with her. that takes courage.
and if you actually read the bible, especially the old testament, her statements are justified. god routinely destroys cities and countries for not following biblical law. if people are going to call themselves christian, they should stop insulting her and think about what she really says. because then you're no better than her.
@SnoopySuited really? then tell me why so many christians fight to put the 10 commandments on courthouse lawns and in schools. which testament is that from?
the new testament is clear on homosexuality. it says gays will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. that doesn't change the law of the old testament, which was clear that homosexuality is an abomination. not that i care, i'm an atheist. i'm saying if you believe the bible is the word of god, it's justifiable. stop with the insults.
"Then tell me why so many Christians fight to put the 10 commandments on courthouse lawns and in schools."
Really? Do you have a statics to prove this? Or are you just falling back on the ones that get public attention through their ranting? More so, the spirit of the commandments exists in the new testament as well.
"the new testament is clear on homosexuality. it says gays will not inherit the kingdom of heaven."
@SnoopySuited yes, i do idiot. there were several high profile court cases on this. there was a courthouse in arkansas that had a 10 commandments monument on the lawn. a federal court judge ruled that it violated the 1st amendment, and it was removed. of course the jesus freaks down in the south went nuts, but it was still removed.
public schools all across the country were ordered to remove copies of the 10 commandments from classrooms, not to mention to stop prayer and bible study.
You are not proving your point that 'so many Christians fight to put the commandments on courthouse lawns and in schools'. You are only citing examples of some instances of the request causing an uproar.
As a Christian, I don't care where the commandments are displayed. My only beef would be if a public locale displays another religious display (e.g. a menorah) I would fight to have the nativity scene. The Commandments (while I only speak for one) I'm indifferent.
@SnoopySuited YES I AM PROVING MY POINT. the case in arkansas was ONLY ONE. there was another in kentucky about 5 years ago, yet another in texas. you know nothing about the legal system in america, or the 1st amendment. tons of christians groups spent money to keep them there, even though it's clearly unconstitutional. and it's not my job to teach ignorant people.
nobody cares what your "beef" is. you're uneducated and ignorant. i do care where they are displayed, so does the supreme court.
@SnoopySuited and btw, this is yet another case of christian modesty. because YOU'RE "indifferent" and you're so important, that's all that matters.
listen, idiot. there are plenty of christians that fight to put a set of laws from the OLD TESTAMENT on public ground. if you're going to do that, listen to what shirly phelps is saying about homosexuality. it's justifiable on old testament grounds.
the best part is that this is all a waste of time. there is no god, so the bible is just crap
@SnoopySuited if you knew anything about the history of the 1st amendment in this country, you'd know what i was talking about. you obviously don't.
and now you're contradicting yourself! YOU SAID IF SHE FOLLOWS CHRIST, SHE SHOULDN'T LIVE BY THE OLD TESTAMENT SINCE JESUS STRIPPED IT AWAY. and now the "spirit" of the commandments is in the new testament as well? PICK YOUR ARGUMENT, YOU CONFUSED IDIOT.
if you know what the new testament says, why do i have to teach you? i'll do it anyway.
I am not contradicting myself, Jesus said that the laws of the old testament are defunct and Christians should follow his word. The laws of commandments are also values he preached, so Christians follow them, not because of the commandments, because of Jesus.
@SnoopySuited well then how can the spirit be alive, if the laws are DEFUNCT?
now i know why you're a christian. you have no logic or common sense, and you can lie to yourself so completely that you don't even notice it.
if the laws of the old testament are defunct, tell your christians brothers and sisters to stop trying to put the 10 commandments on public property. THANKS, IDIOT. AND GOOD NIGHT.
btw, you must watch glenn beck. i can smell it on you.
1. i gave you several famous incidences. this isn't the MAJORITY to you, so therefore it doesn't count. since your beliefs are the only ones that matter.
2. i can tell you're some kind of teabagger glenn beck fan. only idiots follow him, and you're a total idiot.
3. shirley phelps' view are totally in line with the bible. according to you, you get to pick and choose what is really the word of god! how lucky for you. you know better than st. paul.
1.) Would you also say that the majority of Muslims are terrorist, since they get the most headlines?
2.) I despise teabaggers, and their ignorance. Glenn Beck makes me laugh. (on a side note, would you say that teabaggers make up the majority of the Republican party?)
3.) Phelps views are not in line with the bible. The bible says love the sinner, hate the sin. I don't think that's the protocol of the Westboro Baptist Church.
@SnoopySuited 1. no, not all muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are muslim. and if you read the koran, you'd know why. you don't even read your own bible, so i doubt that's true.
2. if you despise ignorance, you should despise yourself.
3. phelps' views are 100% in line with the bible. i already told you why, you're too stupid and brainwashed to understand. the bible doesn't say love the sinner. the bible says the sinner will get eternal condemnation.
@SnoopySuited another one of my favorite arguments!when violence happens BECAUSE OF RELIGION AND MOTIVATED BY A DESIRE TO ESTABLISH A WORLDWIDE CALIPHATE, then islam is to blame.
mcveigh didn't claim christianity as his reason. the IRA didn't say they wanted to establish a worldwide catholic state. ETA (the basques) were catholic just like the french and spanish they targeted.
you're ignorant. you don't know how logic works. i recommend you read the koran and learn about muslim terrorism
@SnoopySuited no, i'm not wrong. i said NEARLY ALL. out of all terrorist acts that occur in the world today, the vast majority are committed by muslims. there have been nearly 15,000 since 9/11. you have no clue what you're even talking about. that doesn't stop you from running your mouth, does it?
chapter 9 of the koran is the most violent one. it's also the last one revealed, and under abrogation it abrogates all earlier verses that were revealed when the muslims were in medina. go read it
"i said NEARLY ALL. out of all terrorist acts that occur in the world today, the vast majority are committed by muslims" Provide a citation for this claim or admit you are wrong. Moreover, why are you narrowcasting the argument to only events since 9/11? Why not just pick one day in history and say, "I told you so!"
@SnoopySuited and i don't care what the bible says anyway. there is no god, and only idiots like you waste their time justifying their retarded beliefs based on a book of fairy tales.
@SnoopySuited you know, i've run into idiotic christians before you talk out of their ass, and who say the most idiotic things, but you might be one of the worst.
this is why i'm an atheist. i don't have to read some bullshit book of fairy tales written by idiots who didn't know the earth was round, and try to defend it in 2010. you are a moron, and that's why you're a christian.
@SnoopySuited paul says it in 1 corinthians 6:9-10. that's just one example, look it up. do you want me to quote every single one to you? since you're obviously intellectually lazy and can't do anything for yourself.
The term in Corinthians 6:9-10 have been translated from Greek to mean both men who have sex with men and male prostitutes. The passage is most likely generalizing the immoral. But more importantly, this was written in a letter by Paul. It is the word of the times, but may not necessarily be the word of God.
@SnoopySuited listen, idiot. homosexuality means homosexuality. that's what it says.
oh, i see! so even though it's in the new testament, IT MAY NOT BE THE WORD OF GOD!! well, then. are you going to go through the bible and simply pick out the parts you don't like anymore and DECIDE they aren't the word of god? that would be great!
those standards come from another place. this is why we don't need the bible. please ignore the whole thing. you complete and utter moron.
You are getting mighty angry of a discussion. That doesn't help your efforts to prove your points right.
The letters that Paul wrote in his day also included language recommending that women don't talk in church. Are women who talk in church today going to hell? Or was he trying to rectify the issues of his day that may not translate to modern times?
@SnoopySuited NONE OF IT TRANSLATES TO MODERN TIMES. do you understand that? people pick and choose what to follow using standards that do NOT come from the bible. that's because modern morality comes from within us, not from some stupid book written by a misogynist over 1000 years ago.
there is no hell, just like there is no god. the fact that women DO talk shows that we don't follow or need the bible
this is way over your head. you simply aren't smart enough to understand this.
Your lowest common denominator argument of -you believe in god therefore you are not smart- is pretty lazy. It's not a good indication of your intelligence. Nor is the fact that you are getting so heated over a message board conversation.
Do you have proof that there is no God? And responses relating to the fairy tales and outdated stories would also be a lazy answer.
@SnoopySuited ah, yes. this is my favorite argument of all time.
i don't have to provide PROOF that something doesn't exist. do you want me to disprove the tooth fairy, santa claus, the easter bunny? do you want me to disprove all of the hindu gods, ancient greek gods, ancient egyptian gods?
you're the one who claims to know. the burden of proof is on YOU. atheists says there is no evidence for anything supernatural, no gods, no ghosts, no elves. until you prove it, that's how it is.
The burden of proof is not on me to prove to you that there is a God, because it is not my intentions to try to convert you. I wish everybody got to experience the enjoyment of believing in something beyond this world (and I'd gladly share my beliefs), but if you have no interest in believing, that is between you and your maker.
@SnoopySuited THE BURDEN IS ON YOU. YOU CLAIM TO KNOW. YOU CLAIM THAT YOU POSITIVELY KNOW GOD'S TEACHINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
christians are constantly trying to force their beliefs into science classrooms, into public policy when it comes to health, into laws for marriage. if you idiots claim to know, and because that knowledge gives you the right to tell others how to live their life, then YES YOU HAVE THE BURDEN.
i know my makers. they're my parents. after i die NOTHING WILL HAPPEN
-christians are constantly trying to force their beliefs into science classrooms, into public policy when it comes to health, into laws for marriage. if you idiots claim to know, and because that knowledge gives you the right to tell others how to live their life-
Again, you are assuming this is the majority because the squeeky wheel gets the grease (by way of the media). Have I tried to convert you at all in this discussion?
For the record, I do not want the government defining marriage, interfering with people's lives (as long as said people don't hurt others) or pushing any agenda in public schools.
@SnoopySuited that's great. i wish you'd tell the millions of christians who DO want the government to do all of those things, and who spend millions of dollars to make it happen, to knock it off. and like i said, since you're so important, they'll listen. you're so important you get to decide what the word of god really is! lucky you.
i'd also recommend that you read the hadith. if you'd understand that jihad, religious war, is part of islam and that muhammad was a warlord, you'd understand
@SnoopySuited and btw, please tell the mormons that i see wandering around, the jehovah's witnesses that knock on my door, the catholics that go to africa to get more followers, not to mention the evangelical christians too, and the muslims that go around trying to convert that religion isn't about conversion.
you seem to think that you speak for all christians. another instance of christian humility.
Unlike you, I am not claiming to speak for anyone. I think people should do what they wish (as long as it doesn't hurt others). I do think that spreading the word of God is very healthy, and people should know about what Jesus preached. Whether or not they believe, is up to them and their personal faith.
@SnoopySuited well get out there and do it then! preaching the word of god is really healthy. and since you get to decide what it is, that puts you in a great position. you're in an even better position than those mormons and jehovah's witnesses, since it's OBVIOUSLY not your intention to convert.
what do you think shirley phelps is doing here? she's preaching the word of god. it does harm others because there is no god. i'm going to spread the word of the tooth fairy, how about that?
@SnoopySuited i doubt that. if you read it, you'd know what it says. how many times does god destroy cities because they allowed sodomy? how many times does god order his people to kill, to rape, to enslave people? how is that not hate?
did you read the story about how lot's daughters got him drunk and then had sex with him? how can you read that story and claim that the depraved perverts who wrote it have any kind of morals to teach to the world? it's a book of barbarism.
@SnoopySuited THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER. YOU'RE STILL CONTRADICTING YOURSELF. you said the "spirit" of the old testament is alive in the new. the spirit of lot having sex with his 2 daughters (and both of them having his kids) is alive in the new testament then. the 10 commandments is also alive.
what do you think of the book of revelation, in the new testament. apparently only 144,000 who haven't "defiled" themselves with women are going to be saved. are you going to be one?
@SnoopySuited still no answer. that's fine. you're the one following a book full of incest, rape, genocide, and slavery. i guess i should expect it. if the commandments are alive in the new testament, that means the old testament is alive.
i just hope you're one of the 144,000 that's going to be redeemed on judgment day, as stated in the NEW TESTAMENT. i hope you're a virgin and that you haven't defiled yourself with a woman. if you read the bible, you obviously know that women are unclean.
@SnoopySuited hahaaaaaaaaaa--somebody definitely hasn't read the book of revelation!
listen, ignoramus. i'm not perverted enough to "make up" the things that are in the bible. you have to be one sick motherfucker to think of that stuff. i suggest you go read it, especially the last part (the book of revelation) because you are sadly uneducated.
i thought you read it from cover to cover! it's sad to catch a christian in a lie.
@SnoopySuited oh, i see! first, i'm making stuff up. now, you admit they're LIKELY the 12 original tribes. now, if the writer of the book of revelation meant that, why didn't he just write that? why do you have to decipher all of this, as if you can read minds now?
that still doesn't explain why they have to be pure and not defiled by women. so nobody in the 12 original tribes had touched a woman? they were all virgin males? that makes perfect sense.
@SnoopySuited i'm not angry, really. this subject is hilarious because it's so obviously made up bullshit that it makes me laugh when people defend it. only a moron would do that.
i don't care if biblical fairy tales make people happy. kids are happy when they believe in santa claus. sooner or later they're going to have to deal with reality. life is about dealing with reality AS IT IS. that means you'll be sad, happy, angry, calm--when you deal with facts.
@SnoopySuited it's 14:4 in the book of revelation. if you read it cover to cover more than once, you should recognize this.
i care about this since i'm an atheist. it's sad to see adults believing in fairy tales. in person i don't "pick fights," i just ask questions. and no christian (not to mention jew or muslim) has ever given me good answers because this is all made up crap.
Why is it sad for you to see adults believing in anything? If you are true atheists why would you burn calories focusing on what anyone else believes. It doesn't improve your life at all picking fights with other people who disagree with you. Spending all this time essentially preaching 'nothing' is a waste of your life. Why don't you try doing something that actually enriches people.
@SnoopySuited i said it's sad when adults believe in FAIRY TALES. if they believe in something that exists i wouldn't care. and if christians kept their beliefs to themselves i wouldn't care. i have to constantly see in the news that they want to make abortion illegal, force abstinence only "education" in schools, force laws to enforce the "sanctity of marriage," etc. not to mention that i have to read about women being stoned to death, 9 year old girls getting married in islamic countries
@SnoopySuited it does improve life to point out the fact that religion is nonsense. i'm not "preaching." i just want people to start using reason, evidence, and rationality. that's not a waste. that will enrich people and the world. religion is the biggest source of conflict in this world. it's the biggest obstacle to human progress. this needs to be confronted.
and i'm still waiting for your answer about the 144,000 male virgins. i hope you're going to be one of them!
Moreover, billions of people on this planet lead wonderful lives and do great things because of their following of a faith. For many, happiness is found in believing in something beyond what we see in this world. Your goal is to take that away from them. That's an evil cause.
Can you honestly say that the existence of religion has effected YOU in a negative way? Cite an example.
@SnoopySuited we've already been over this, sweetie. do you want me to disprove the tooth fairy, vishnu, and zeus too? or just your personal imaginary friend? you claim to know. you provide the proof that god DOES exist.
and the fact that the bible has proven to be incorrect and downright perverted is evidence for me. if can you overlook incest, rape, and misogyny, and claim it's proof of god's word, i guess we just have different standards of morality.
If you can find incest, rape or any other perversion in the new testament you will have an argument.
My last point was not about whether someone can be good without religion, my point is that religion makes billions of people around the world very happy. You want to take that away from them. Your efforts are evil.
And you keep focusing on the minority within religion to support your opinion that it is all bad.
@SnoopySuited i'm still waiting for an answer from you concerning the 144,000 that weren't defiled by women, from the NEW TESTAMENT. you are oddly silent.
i don't care if religion makes people happy. i care about what is true. i care about reality. drugs and alcohol make people happy. that doesn't mean they are beneficial. asking people to deal with reality isn't evil. are people who tell children that the tooth fairy is made up evil? like i said, you've got some weird ideas about evil.
@SnoopySuited just because something makes a person HAPPY doesn't mean it's true. kids believe in santa claus. one day they're going to have to wake up.
the "great things" don't wipe away the disgusting and backwards things. name me one act of charity that is IMPOSSIBLE without faith. then i want you think of all the disgusting things people would only do BECAUSE OF faith. nobody would hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings unless they were 100% they'd go to heaven for it
@SnoopySuited my goal is for people to start using reason, not faith. that's not evil. for many happiness is drinking and using drugs. do you call people who do interventions and run drug rehabs "evil"? you have some strange ideas about what evil is.
yes i can cite examples. jehovah's witnesses constantly knock on my door to peddle their bullshit, since there's a kingdom hall near me. i have to get patted down and x-rayed by the TSA because muslim jihadis try to blow up planes constantly.
Does believing in religion hurt people? And don't cite your typical response of the 1% of 1% of religious people who do wrong. In reality, religion doesn't make people act poorly. People in power use religion as a tool to make people do evil things.
@SnoopySuited i have to constantly vote on propositions that want to eliminate abortion rights and discriminate against gay people because of religious idiots that want to be in other peoples' personal lives.
i have to turn on the news and hear stories about pedophile priests who got away with raping and molesting kids for decades. i have to turn on the news and hear stories about women being stoned to death and whipped for "adultery." i don't want to live in a world where this happens.
@SnoopySuited i just gave you examples. can you read? do you understand why people are getting felt up and x-rayed before they get on planes? i hate that. that affects me. the cause of that is religion. you probably know nothing about islam, that's the problem.
yes, religion hurts people. BELIEVING IN THINGS THAT ARE FALSE HURTS PEOPLE. TELLING LIES TO CHILDREN HURTS THEM. IN REALITY, RELIGION MAKES PEOPLE ACT POORLY.
people in power don't FORCE people to act poorly. it's innate.
Again, religion is not the cause of people being evil. The greed of the powerful causes people to be evil.
I hope you understand that no matter which one of us is right, trying to convince people that their religious views are wrong is counterproductive to what you are trying to accomplish. You will never convince someone who is religious that they are wrong, and you will never bring joy to someone by trying to convince them that they are wrong.
@SnoopySuited no, religion is the cause. if you think god will reward you for slaying infidels because that's what it says in the koran, if you think you need to make abortion illegal because of the bible, then THE RELIGION ITSELF is the cause.
no, it's not counterproductive. encouraging people to use reason and evidence is NEVER counterproductive. i have seen plenty of people leave religion. and i'm not trying to bring people joy. i'm trying to bring people truth and reality.
@SnoopySuited no i'm not. i'm focusing on the bible, the koran, the book of mormon, etc. these teachings are false.
what happened in the USSR and china was NOT communism. communism is about workers taking over the means of production in an industrialized society. i suggest you read the communist manifesto. these societies were agrarian and totalitarian fascist regimes. atheism is about reason and evidence. do you think too much reason was the problem in the USSR? no. the state was the church
Your efforts are a waste of your time. If there was no religion greed would lead to other atrocities in the world. Communism is based on atheism, for example. If you really want to help people and/or change the world try focusing on being cordial.
@SnoopySuited oh, boy. i thought that you were just uneducated about christianity. now i see you know nothing about communism. religion is the CAUSE of the worst atrocities in the world. where do you think worse things happen--in iran or sweden? where would you rather live? in denmark, or in sudan?
now you're going to try the hitler, stalin bogus argument. hitler was raised catholic, and most of the SS was as well. fascism came from the catholic right in europe.
@SnoopySuited fascism was based on the catholic right, no doubt. that's what hitler was. only one member of the SS was excommunicated from the church--goebbels. and that was for marrying a protestant. catholics have their standards!
franco in spain was catholic, as was pavelic in croatia. father tiso (fascist leader of slovakia) was an actual catholic priest. if you were well-educated in history you'd understand.
@SnoopySuited stalin was god in the USSR. the state was the church. do you think that is' any coincidence that when the USSR ended, all of the biggest communists went back to being russian orthodox in about 2 minutes? how did that happen? the orthodox church is now the offical state church. it's the same bullshit, just a different name. i suggest you read "animal farm" by george orwell. that's a good place to start.
@SnoopySuited yes, absolutely. sweden has one of the highest rates of atheism in the world, about 85%. denmark is about the same. most of europe is like that. along with australia and new zealand. japan as well has a very high rate of atheism. most developed nations are much less religion than the US.
@SnoopySuited i'm going to knock on people's doors and ask them to join. then i'm going to ask them for 10% of their annual income. then i'm going to have weekly meetings and pass around baskets where they can hand me cash. then i'm going to start a TV show and have a 1-800 number where people can give me their credit card numbers.
Seriously, answer the question. You seem committed to your chore of 'converting' people to atheism. Do you have a strategy of how you intend to do that? Or is your goal just to do what you can to upset people. Also, if the latter is the fact, do you plan on just doing this in anonymity as an internet tough guy?
@SnoopySuited i'm not trying to convert anyone. i want people to start using reason. and if they believe in fairy tales, i want them to keep it to themselves, out of planned parenthood and out of public high schools.
you can't convert to atheism. atheism is an absence of belief. do you feel you're a convert to not believing in vishnu or krishna? you just have no belief in them. you understand that there is no evidence for them. it's all arbitrary anyway. if you were indian you might.
@SnoopySuited BY ASKING THEM. books by atheists are big sellers, books have usually been the biggest spreaders of ideas. non-religious people are about 16% of the US population, and that's doubled in the past decade. people are getting sick of this shit.
you should try infidel by ayaan hirsi ali, a great woman. try that along with animal farm by orwell. although you don't seem like a big reader.
i'm still waiting to see if you think you'll be in the 144,000. are you a virgin?
"By asking them"? Based on our conversation, it seems your method is to pick fights when people don't agree with you. I don't think you care about religion, you just want a reason to bitch. You want a cause you can fight as long as you can call people names and do what you can to ruin their day. Something is missing in your life, you need to find it.
@SnoopySuited no my life is pretty good. i'm sorry if i ruined your day. i think my day was ruined when i 5 and realized there was no tooth fairy. if i wanted a reason to bitch, i think i'd pick something less complicated than religion. i'm not bitching, i'm simply stating facts. good job trying to defend the bible though!
sweden and denmark are much less religious than the US, and the US is the most religious developed country. those are facts. and i still think you should read animal farm.
@SnoopySuited no, sorry. look at this website. a state church membership, for things like weddings, doesn't necessarily determine a strong belief in god.
@SnoopySuited oh, and on top of all of that, i'm going to tell them that they're going to tortured endlessly after they die if they don't join me and give me money. even though i have absolutely no evidence, i'm still going to scare them. and i'm going to tell them that a day is coming, sometime soon, when they're all going to be judged. except i again have no proof, and no timeframe in mind.
For some reason, YouTube isn't posting half my responses, so I am calling it a night. I'll respond to any new posts when they all clear.
In finishing, I think you need to stop assuming somebody is something based on interpreted understanding of who they are based on their affiliations. During our entire conversation you have not made one accurate assessment of who I am, besides that I believe in God. It would do you good to converse, not simply judge. Ironic isn't it!
@SnoopySuited btw you're an atheist just like me. you're an atheist when it comes to the hindu gods (which about 1 billion people believe in today), egyptian, viking, greek, inca, aztec, etc.
you're an atheist when it comes to the vast majority of gods people have believed in throughout human history. and you do that because you don't have any proof for them. i just go one step further than you to the actual number of gods--ZERO.
Hahaha...I love Adam. This is the true way to beat these nuts. With comic indifference. They do not deserve anything more from us. ~ from an American Soldier who loves her country!!!!
@BumJuiceDrinker That is a little to nice she would enjoy that.. you should be more creative than that dude.. She needs a fist in her ass while someone force fucks her face gaging her making her swallow your load LOL!
@BumJuiceDrinker Aww, But it would be fun having a gang bang with her.. She probably sucks good cock lmfao.. Plus with her hatred and anger oh man she would be a beast in bed LOL!
Any time that Shirley is being interviewed, she should be forced to wear a shock collar, and whenever she interupts the interviewer, she should get shocked.
The Phelps family is not allowed into Canada, for what it's worth.
somewhatlongdong 2 months ago
listening to her makes me glad I gave up on religion.
dgb751 3 months ago 2
@dgb751
indeed. Religion is war.
Myserieden 2 months ago
There's no hate like God's hate. Shirley just confirms my hypothesis that God only created us so that He could burn us. He's just a big kid with a magnifying glass on a sunny day and we're nothing but ants.
ChipArgyle 3 months ago
@ChipArgyle That's beautiful
sjgog 3 months ago
@sjgog Thanks. Put on that SPF 50 as soon as you can.
ChipArgyle 3 months ago
Adam I the best
idistroyer 3 months ago
Shirley and that whole bunch are whack jobs. End of story.
einaroneeye 5 months ago
i love Australia for putting that cunt in jail
Ayko07 5 months ago
God bless Adam Carolla. Shirley Phelps will rot in hell.
Grandlnquisitor7 5 months ago 2
Well I agree that Bio-Dome is indeed a curse from God ... but come'on! ;)
LikwidSnake 5 months ago
Strasser is a disgrace. Unbelievable.
MrGrevy 7 months ago
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Adam is a wicked brute beast, and is going irrevocably to hell, for his open rebellion against God Almighty! God Bless Shirley and the WBC!
Have a nice day!
GrandInquisitor7 7 months ago
@GrandInquisitor7 stfu goofy moron
MrGrevy 7 months ago
These peoples only source of income is getting people so mad they take a swing at them. Then these church people sue. They are all lawyers. It is all about money. Spread the word so others don't fall into their trap!!!
xizora1 7 months ago 2
the Phelps can eat a dick
cmau14 8 months ago
AND FUCK THESE CRAZY WESTBORO BAPTIST CULT MEMBERS!!!
erincg86 8 months ago
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LOVE IS MY RELIGION.
erincg86 8 months ago
I hope this cunt dies...#TRUTH!
professorintellect 8 months ago
Ugh, the disease that is religion...
ClovePsyKoz 8 months ago
I also find it interesting that this Shirley Phelps can call herself a "servant of God" yet she says a** (cuss word) and admits to watching a rated R movie....hmmm not to get all self rightous If you are going to preach hell fire you best watch your testimony or you make urself look like an idiot. Being mindful of what we watch and how we talk are BASIC principles of being "a servant of God". I'm wondering why the Church has not spoken out about this, she make a mockery of the Word of God.
JCMySoulsBoast 9 months ago 2
they are clowing this lady the whole time and she has no idea or maybe she does, they are making a fool out of her and she is making a fool out of herself. Not once have I heard this lady in any video or interview tell people about Jesus Christ, His Cross or Salvation. NEVER ONCE HAVE A HEARD THIS LADY PREACH THE GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL. False prophet, False prophet false prophet, false prophet. I'M GOING TO PICKET HER AND HER ORGANIZATION.
JCMySoulsBoast 9 months ago
if she goes to austrailia shell goto prison
isnt that what God wants
Germtalia 10 months ago
lol, the conversation about grandpa going to hell is the best part! "Oh, no! But grandpa would pull a quarter out of my ear-" "NO HE'S IN HELL!"
cinefanatic820 11 months ago
Is the saying " treat others like you like to be treated " in the bible, or was it from a nurery story ?
flubno 11 months ago
Shirley has an illegitimate son. I wonder why he didn't ask her about that.
ninajahan 11 months ago
@ninajahan she was asked that in a different documentary and her response was that her dad was severly pissed and she had to repent and not continue to sin anymore and today she is not sinning, because she sees that her sin was wrong.
Unfortunately,if she can sin and repent and go to heaven why does she not think anyone else can do the same?
poisoncupcake74 9 months ago
Next time If you want to have a conversation take it to PMs for fuck's sake.
SrM90 1 year ago
the wbc are just inbreds
Mikeybetts 1 year ago
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killdaclownz 1 year ago 9
Worst part is that the Phelps Cult is GREAT at Media Manipulation.
intervenum 1 year ago
An "angry UK person" didn't Shirley go to college?
MyTeelee 1 year ago
@MyTeelee Just because you went to college, dosent mean your inteligent.
SdM45 1 year ago
@SdM45
That's obvious..
MyTeelee 1 year ago
@SdM45 College in the US can actually make you dumber
pretorious700 11 months ago
And she says her dad is the product of an adulterous relationship...She was unmarried when she had her first son. Last I checked adultery and premarital sex were equally terrible for these people. She acts like she's so much better than everyone else, just because she repented. Yet she doesn't give anyone else the chance to admit they made a mistake in the past.
spud0517 1 year ago
Shirley is my favourite of the Phelps. She seems like the smartest, even though I have heard her backtrack in some of her statements and there are so many wholes in her beliefs. And she is so condescending it's funny. And when she said he should put a sign outside his building instead of just telling people about Christ. That was priceless.
spud0517 1 year ago
09:43 - "Are They down there with Jews?"
I just pissed myself
FatRakoon 1 year ago
Everyone's favorite mother, Shirley Phelps.
espezido 1 year ago
i like shirley. she's obviously brainwashed, but at least she has the courage to say what she thinks even though people disagree with her. that takes courage.
and if you actually read the bible, especially the old testament, her statements are justified. god routinely destroys cities and countries for not following biblical law. if people are going to call themselves christian, they should stop insulting her and think about what she really says. because then you're no better than her.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
The problem is, she believes in Christ, so she shouldn't be living by the old testament, as Jesus stripped all laws before him.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited really? then tell me why so many christians fight to put the 10 commandments on courthouse lawns and in schools. which testament is that from?
the new testament is clear on homosexuality. it says gays will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. that doesn't change the law of the old testament, which was clear that homosexuality is an abomination. not that i care, i'm an atheist. i'm saying if you believe the bible is the word of god, it's justifiable. stop with the insults.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
"Then tell me why so many Christians fight to put the 10 commandments on courthouse lawns and in schools."
Really? Do you have a statics to prove this? Or are you just falling back on the ones that get public attention through their ranting? More so, the spirit of the commandments exists in the new testament as well.
"the new testament is clear on homosexuality. it says gays will not inherit the kingdom of heaven."
Really? Can you quote the passage?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited yes, i do idiot. there were several high profile court cases on this. there was a courthouse in arkansas that had a 10 commandments monument on the lawn. a federal court judge ruled that it violated the 1st amendment, and it was removed. of course the jesus freaks down in the south went nuts, but it was still removed.
public schools all across the country were ordered to remove copies of the 10 commandments from classrooms, not to mention to stop prayer and bible study.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
You are not proving your point that 'so many Christians fight to put the commandments on courthouse lawns and in schools'. You are only citing examples of some instances of the request causing an uproar.
As a Christian, I don't care where the commandments are displayed. My only beef would be if a public locale displays another religious display (e.g. a menorah) I would fight to have the nativity scene. The Commandments (while I only speak for one) I'm indifferent.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited YES I AM PROVING MY POINT. the case in arkansas was ONLY ONE. there was another in kentucky about 5 years ago, yet another in texas. you know nothing about the legal system in america, or the 1st amendment. tons of christians groups spent money to keep them there, even though it's clearly unconstitutional. and it's not my job to teach ignorant people.
nobody cares what your "beef" is. you're uneducated and ignorant. i do care where they are displayed, so does the supreme court.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited and btw, this is yet another case of christian modesty. because YOU'RE "indifferent" and you're so important, that's all that matters.
listen, idiot. there are plenty of christians that fight to put a set of laws from the OLD TESTAMENT on public ground. if you're going to do that, listen to what shirly phelps is saying about homosexuality. it's justifiable on old testament grounds.
the best part is that this is all a waste of time. there is no god, so the bible is just crap
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited if you knew anything about the history of the 1st amendment in this country, you'd know what i was talking about. you obviously don't.
and now you're contradicting yourself! YOU SAID IF SHE FOLLOWS CHRIST, SHE SHOULDN'T LIVE BY THE OLD TESTAMENT SINCE JESUS STRIPPED IT AWAY. and now the "spirit" of the commandments is in the new testament as well? PICK YOUR ARGUMENT, YOU CONFUSED IDIOT.
if you know what the new testament says, why do i have to teach you? i'll do it anyway.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
I am not contradicting myself, Jesus said that the laws of the old testament are defunct and Christians should follow his word. The laws of commandments are also values he preached, so Christians follow them, not because of the commandments, because of Jesus.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited well then how can the spirit be alive, if the laws are DEFUNCT?
now i know why you're a christian. you have no logic or common sense, and you can lie to yourself so completely that you don't even notice it.
if the laws of the old testament are defunct, tell your christians brothers and sisters to stop trying to put the 10 commandments on public property. THANKS, IDIOT. AND GOOD NIGHT.
btw, you must watch glenn beck. i can smell it on you.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Again, you are assuming your stance is correct:
1.) You have no proof that the people (Christians) who are trying to get the commandments in public places are part of the majority of the faith.
2.) You have no idea my political beliefs, but you assume as you do with point 1.
3.) You are moving away from the original topic, which is that Shirley Phelps attitudes contradict the word of Jesus.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited oh, okay.
1. i gave you several famous incidences. this isn't the MAJORITY to you, so therefore it doesn't count. since your beliefs are the only ones that matter.
2. i can tell you're some kind of teabagger glenn beck fan. only idiots follow him, and you're a total idiot.
3. shirley phelps' view are totally in line with the bible. according to you, you get to pick and choose what is really the word of god! how lucky for you. you know better than st. paul.
MORON.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
1.) Would you also say that the majority of Muslims are terrorist, since they get the most headlines?
2.) I despise teabaggers, and their ignorance. Glenn Beck makes me laugh. (on a side note, would you say that teabaggers make up the majority of the Republican party?)
3.) Phelps views are not in line with the bible. The bible says love the sinner, hate the sin. I don't think that's the protocol of the Westboro Baptist Church.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited 1. no, not all muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are muslim. and if you read the koran, you'd know why. you don't even read your own bible, so i doubt that's true.
2. if you despise ignorance, you should despise yourself.
3. phelps' views are 100% in line with the bible. i already told you why, you're too stupid and brainwashed to understand. the bible doesn't say love the sinner. the bible says the sinner will get eternal condemnation.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Was Timothy McVeigh Muslim? Was the IRA made up of Muslims? How about Aum Shinrinko? Who's proving themselves to be ignorant?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited another one of my favorite arguments!when violence happens BECAUSE OF RELIGION AND MOTIVATED BY A DESIRE TO ESTABLISH A WORLDWIDE CALIPHATE, then islam is to blame.
mcveigh didn't claim christianity as his reason. the IRA didn't say they wanted to establish a worldwide catholic state. ETA (the basques) were catholic just like the french and spanish they targeted.
you're ignorant. you don't know how logic works. i recommend you read the koran and learn about muslim terrorism
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
You made the statement that 'nearly all terrorists are Muslim'. You are wrong regardless of their actual faith.
What in the Koran preaches terrorism? Why do you keep pulling facts out of thin air and claim that you are the more intelligent one?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited no, i'm not wrong. i said NEARLY ALL. out of all terrorist acts that occur in the world today, the vast majority are committed by muslims. there have been nearly 15,000 since 9/11. you have no clue what you're even talking about. that doesn't stop you from running your mouth, does it?
chapter 9 of the koran is the most violent one. it's also the last one revealed, and under abrogation it abrogates all earlier verses that were revealed when the muslims were in medina. go read it
karlsmith00 1 year ago
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@karlsmith00
"i said NEARLY ALL. out of all terrorist acts that occur in the world today, the vast majority are committed by muslims" Provide a citation for this claim or admit you are wrong. Moreover, why are you narrowcasting the argument to only events since 9/11? Why not just pick one day in history and say, "I told you so!"
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited and i don't care what the bible says anyway. there is no god, and only idiots like you waste their time justifying their retarded beliefs based on a book of fairy tales.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited you know, i've run into idiotic christians before you talk out of their ass, and who say the most idiotic things, but you might be one of the worst.
this is why i'm an atheist. i don't have to read some bullshit book of fairy tales written by idiots who didn't know the earth was round, and try to defend it in 2010. you are a moron, and that's why you're a christian.
good luck in life. i hope you're sterile.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
I have a wonderful daughter, thank you.
Your view of others is very healthy. I hope you take blood pressure medication.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited paul says it in 1 corinthians 6:9-10. that's just one example, look it up. do you want me to quote every single one to you? since you're obviously intellectually lazy and can't do anything for yourself.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
The term in Corinthians 6:9-10 have been translated from Greek to mean both men who have sex with men and male prostitutes. The passage is most likely generalizing the immoral. But more importantly, this was written in a letter by Paul. It is the word of the times, but may not necessarily be the word of God.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited listen, idiot. homosexuality means homosexuality. that's what it says.
oh, i see! so even though it's in the new testament, IT MAY NOT BE THE WORD OF GOD!! well, then. are you going to go through the bible and simply pick out the parts you don't like anymore and DECIDE they aren't the word of god? that would be great!
those standards come from another place. this is why we don't need the bible. please ignore the whole thing. you complete and utter moron.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
You are getting mighty angry of a discussion. That doesn't help your efforts to prove your points right.
The letters that Paul wrote in his day also included language recommending that women don't talk in church. Are women who talk in church today going to hell? Or was he trying to rectify the issues of his day that may not translate to modern times?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited NONE OF IT TRANSLATES TO MODERN TIMES. do you understand that? people pick and choose what to follow using standards that do NOT come from the bible. that's because modern morality comes from within us, not from some stupid book written by a misogynist over 1000 years ago.
there is no hell, just like there is no god. the fact that women DO talk shows that we don't follow or need the bible
this is way over your head. you simply aren't smart enough to understand this.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Your lowest common denominator argument of -you believe in god therefore you are not smart- is pretty lazy. It's not a good indication of your intelligence. Nor is the fact that you are getting so heated over a message board conversation.
Do you have proof that there is no God? And responses relating to the fairy tales and outdated stories would also be a lazy answer.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited ah, yes. this is my favorite argument of all time.
i don't have to provide PROOF that something doesn't exist. do you want me to disprove the tooth fairy, santa claus, the easter bunny? do you want me to disprove all of the hindu gods, ancient greek gods, ancient egyptian gods?
you're the one who claims to know. the burden of proof is on YOU. atheists says there is no evidence for anything supernatural, no gods, no ghosts, no elves. until you prove it, that's how it is.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
The burden of proof is not on me to prove to you that there is a God, because it is not my intentions to try to convert you. I wish everybody got to experience the enjoyment of believing in something beyond this world (and I'd gladly share my beliefs), but if you have no interest in believing, that is between you and your maker.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited THE BURDEN IS ON YOU. YOU CLAIM TO KNOW. YOU CLAIM THAT YOU POSITIVELY KNOW GOD'S TEACHINGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
christians are constantly trying to force their beliefs into science classrooms, into public policy when it comes to health, into laws for marriage. if you idiots claim to know, and because that knowledge gives you the right to tell others how to live their life, then YES YOU HAVE THE BURDEN.
i know my makers. they're my parents. after i die NOTHING WILL HAPPEN
karlsmith00 1 year ago
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@karlsmith00
-christians are constantly trying to force their beliefs into science classrooms, into public policy when it comes to health, into laws for marriage. if you idiots claim to know, and because that knowledge gives you the right to tell others how to live their life-
Again, you are assuming this is the majority because the squeeky wheel gets the grease (by way of the media). Have I tried to convert you at all in this discussion?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
For the record, I do not want the government defining marriage, interfering with people's lives (as long as said people don't hurt others) or pushing any agenda in public schools.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited that's great. i wish you'd tell the millions of christians who DO want the government to do all of those things, and who spend millions of dollars to make it happen, to knock it off. and like i said, since you're so important, they'll listen. you're so important you get to decide what the word of god really is! lucky you.
i'd also recommend that you read the hadith. if you'd understand that jihad, religious war, is part of islam and that muhammad was a warlord, you'd understand
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited and btw, please tell the mormons that i see wandering around, the jehovah's witnesses that knock on my door, the catholics that go to africa to get more followers, not to mention the evangelical christians too, and the muslims that go around trying to convert that religion isn't about conversion.
you seem to think that you speak for all christians. another instance of christian humility.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Unlike you, I am not claiming to speak for anyone. I think people should do what they wish (as long as it doesn't hurt others). I do think that spreading the word of God is very healthy, and people should know about what Jesus preached. Whether or not they believe, is up to them and their personal faith.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited well get out there and do it then! preaching the word of god is really healthy. and since you get to decide what it is, that puts you in a great position. you're in an even better position than those mormons and jehovah's witnesses, since it's OBVIOUSLY not your intention to convert.
what do you think shirley phelps is doing here? she's preaching the word of god. it does harm others because there is no god. i'm going to spread the word of the tooth fairy, how about that?
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Phelps is spreading hate, plain and simple. Jesus was not about hate.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited phelps is spreading the word of god as stated in the bible. the bible is about hate.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
"The bible is about hate"
What a pathetically inaccurate statement.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited only someone who doesn't know what the bible says would say something so stupid.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
I've read it cover to cover more than once. How about you?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited i doubt that. if you read it, you'd know what it says. how many times does god destroy cities because they allowed sodomy? how many times does god order his people to kill, to rape, to enslave people? how is that not hate?
did you read the story about how lot's daughters got him drunk and then had sex with him? how can you read that story and claim that the depraved perverts who wrote it have any kind of morals to teach to the world? it's a book of barbarism.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Everything you mentioned is from the old testament.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER. YOU'RE STILL CONTRADICTING YOURSELF. you said the "spirit" of the old testament is alive in the new. the spirit of lot having sex with his 2 daughters (and both of them having his kids) is alive in the new testament then. the 10 commandments is also alive.
what do you think of the book of revelation, in the new testament. apparently only 144,000 who haven't "defiled" themselves with women are going to be saved. are you going to be one?
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
I said the spirit of the commandments are alive in the new testament. You are good at misquoting everything.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited still no answer. that's fine. you're the one following a book full of incest, rape, genocide, and slavery. i guess i should expect it. if the commandments are alive in the new testament, that means the old testament is alive.
i just hope you're one of the 144,000 that's going to be redeemed on judgment day, as stated in the NEW TESTAMENT. i hope you're a virgin and that you haven't defiled yourself with a woman. if you read the bible, you obviously know that women are unclean.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Making stuff up to suit your interests doesn't make you right.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited hahaaaaaaaaaa--somebody definitely hasn't read the book of revelation!
listen, ignoramus. i'm not perverted enough to "make up" the things that are in the bible. you have to be one sick motherfucker to think of that stuff. i suggest you go read it, especially the last part (the book of revelation) because you are sadly uneducated.
i thought you read it from cover to cover! it's sad to catch a christian in a lie.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
You are making up stuff I said. You are making claim to know the values preached in the new testament, but you are making stuff up.
The 144,000 people mentioned in the book of revelations is likely the 12 original tribes of Israel (with 12,000) people each.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited oh, i see! first, i'm making stuff up. now, you admit they're LIKELY the 12 original tribes. now, if the writer of the book of revelation meant that, why didn't he just write that? why do you have to decipher all of this, as if you can read minds now?
that still doesn't explain why they have to be pure and not defiled by women. so nobody in the 12 original tribes had touched a woman? they were all virgin males? that makes perfect sense.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
What verse are you referring to?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
By the way. Why does this subject make you so angry? Do you not like the fact that some people are happier than you?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited i'm not angry, really. this subject is hilarious because it's so obviously made up bullshit that it makes me laugh when people defend it. only a moron would do that.
i don't care if biblical fairy tales make people happy. kids are happy when they believe in santa claus. sooner or later they're going to have to deal with reality. life is about dealing with reality AS IT IS. that means you'll be sad, happy, angry, calm--when you deal with facts.
drunks are happy too.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
If you arn't angry why do you berate people regarding a subject you should really care about? Do you try to pick fights with people in person too?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited it's 14:4 in the book of revelation. if you read it cover to cover more than once, you should recognize this.
i care about this since i'm an atheist. it's sad to see adults believing in fairy tales. in person i don't "pick fights," i just ask questions. and no christian (not to mention jew or muslim) has ever given me good answers because this is all made up crap.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Why is it sad for you to see adults believing in anything? If you are true atheists why would you burn calories focusing on what anyone else believes. It doesn't improve your life at all picking fights with other people who disagree with you. Spending all this time essentially preaching 'nothing' is a waste of your life. Why don't you try doing something that actually enriches people.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited i said it's sad when adults believe in FAIRY TALES. if they believe in something that exists i wouldn't care. and if christians kept their beliefs to themselves i wouldn't care. i have to constantly see in the news that they want to make abortion illegal, force abstinence only "education" in schools, force laws to enforce the "sanctity of marriage," etc. not to mention that i have to read about women being stoned to death, 9 year old girls getting married in islamic countries
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited it does improve life to point out the fact that religion is nonsense. i'm not "preaching." i just want people to start using reason, evidence, and rationality. that's not a waste. that will enrich people and the world. religion is the biggest source of conflict in this world. it's the biggest obstacle to human progress. this needs to be confronted.
and i'm still waiting for your answer about the 144,000 male virgins. i hope you're going to be one of them!
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Do you have evidence that God does not exist?
Moreover, billions of people on this planet lead wonderful lives and do great things because of their following of a faith. For many, happiness is found in believing in something beyond what we see in this world. Your goal is to take that away from them. That's an evil cause.
Can you honestly say that the existence of religion has effected YOU in a negative way? Cite an example.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited we've already been over this, sweetie. do you want me to disprove the tooth fairy, vishnu, and zeus too? or just your personal imaginary friend? you claim to know. you provide the proof that god DOES exist.
and the fact that the bible has proven to be incorrect and downright perverted is evidence for me. if can you overlook incest, rape, and misogyny, and claim it's proof of god's word, i guess we just have different standards of morality.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
If you can find incest, rape or any other perversion in the new testament you will have an argument.
My last point was not about whether someone can be good without religion, my point is that religion makes billions of people around the world very happy. You want to take that away from them. Your efforts are evil.
And you keep focusing on the minority within religion to support your opinion that it is all bad.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited i'm still waiting for an answer from you concerning the 144,000 that weren't defiled by women, from the NEW TESTAMENT. you are oddly silent.
i don't care if religion makes people happy. i care about what is true. i care about reality. drugs and alcohol make people happy. that doesn't mean they are beneficial. asking people to deal with reality isn't evil. are people who tell children that the tooth fairy is made up evil? like i said, you've got some weird ideas about evil.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
I don't know that verse is referring to.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited just because something makes a person HAPPY doesn't mean it's true. kids believe in santa claus. one day they're going to have to wake up.
the "great things" don't wipe away the disgusting and backwards things. name me one act of charity that is IMPOSSIBLE without faith. then i want you think of all the disgusting things people would only do BECAUSE OF faith. nobody would hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings unless they were 100% they'd go to heaven for it
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited my goal is for people to start using reason, not faith. that's not evil. for many happiness is drinking and using drugs. do you call people who do interventions and run drug rehabs "evil"? you have some strange ideas about what evil is.
yes i can cite examples. jehovah's witnesses constantly knock on my door to peddle their bullshit, since there's a kingdom hall near me. i have to get patted down and x-rayed by the TSA because muslim jihadis try to blow up planes constantly.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Does believing in religion hurt people? And don't cite your typical response of the 1% of 1% of religious people who do wrong. In reality, religion doesn't make people act poorly. People in power use religion as a tool to make people do evil things.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited i have to constantly vote on propositions that want to eliminate abortion rights and discriminate against gay people because of religious idiots that want to be in other peoples' personal lives.
i have to turn on the news and hear stories about pedophile priests who got away with raping and molesting kids for decades. i have to turn on the news and hear stories about women being stoned to death and whipped for "adultery." i don't want to live in a world where this happens.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Has religion ever effected YOU negatively?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited i just gave you examples. can you read? do you understand why people are getting felt up and x-rayed before they get on planes? i hate that. that affects me. the cause of that is religion. you probably know nothing about islam, that's the problem.
yes, religion hurts people. BELIEVING IN THINGS THAT ARE FALSE HURTS PEOPLE. TELLING LIES TO CHILDREN HURTS THEM. IN REALITY, RELIGION MAKES PEOPLE ACT POORLY.
people in power don't FORCE people to act poorly. it's innate.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith0
Again, religion is not the cause of people being evil. The greed of the powerful causes people to be evil.
I hope you understand that no matter which one of us is right, trying to convince people that their religious views are wrong is counterproductive to what you are trying to accomplish. You will never convince someone who is religious that they are wrong, and you will never bring joy to someone by trying to convince them that they are wrong.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited no, religion is the cause. if you think god will reward you for slaying infidels because that's what it says in the koran, if you think you need to make abortion illegal because of the bible, then THE RELIGION ITSELF is the cause.
no, it's not counterproductive. encouraging people to use reason and evidence is NEVER counterproductive. i have seen plenty of people leave religion. and i'm not trying to bring people joy. i'm trying to bring people truth and reality.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
You are focusing on the 1% of the 1%.
New question, what is your plan to help 'educate' people that religion is a farce?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited no i'm not. i'm focusing on the bible, the koran, the book of mormon, etc. these teachings are false.
what happened in the USSR and china was NOT communism. communism is about workers taking over the means of production in an industrialized society. i suggest you read the communist manifesto. these societies were agrarian and totalitarian fascist regimes. atheism is about reason and evidence. do you think too much reason was the problem in the USSR? no. the state was the church
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
How do you plan to promote your beliefs?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Your efforts are a waste of your time. If there was no religion greed would lead to other atrocities in the world. Communism is based on atheism, for example. If you really want to help people and/or change the world try focusing on being cordial.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited oh, boy. i thought that you were just uneducated about christianity. now i see you know nothing about communism. religion is the CAUSE of the worst atrocities in the world. where do you think worse things happen--in iran or sweden? where would you rather live? in denmark, or in sudan?
now you're going to try the hitler, stalin bogus argument. hitler was raised catholic, and most of the SS was as well. fascism came from the catholic right in europe.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Ok, enlighten me, what religion did communism promote?
And answer my question, what is your plan to promote your beliefs?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited fascism was based on the catholic right, no doubt. that's what hitler was. only one member of the SS was excommunicated from the church--goebbels. and that was for marrying a protestant. catholics have their standards!
franco in spain was catholic, as was pavelic in croatia. father tiso (fascist leader of slovakia) was an actual catholic priest. if you were well-educated in history you'd understand.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited stalin was god in the USSR. the state was the church. do you think that is' any coincidence that when the USSR ended, all of the biggest communists went back to being russian orthodox in about 2 minutes? how did that happen? the orthodox church is now the offical state church. it's the same bullshit, just a different name. i suggest you read "animal farm" by george orwell. that's a good place to start.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Are you saying that Denmark and Swedish societies are lacking religions?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited yes, absolutely. sweden has one of the highest rates of atheism in the world, about 85%. denmark is about the same. most of europe is like that. along with australia and new zealand. japan as well has a very high rate of atheism. most developed nations are much less religion than the US.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
How do you plan to promote your beliefs?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited i'm going to knock on people's doors and ask them to join. then i'm going to ask them for 10% of their annual income. then i'm going to have weekly meetings and pass around baskets where they can hand me cash. then i'm going to start a TV show and have a 1-800 number where people can give me their credit card numbers.
wait, does that sound too greedy?
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
Seriously, answer the question. You seem committed to your chore of 'converting' people to atheism. Do you have a strategy of how you intend to do that? Or is your goal just to do what you can to upset people. Also, if the latter is the fact, do you plan on just doing this in anonymity as an internet tough guy?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited i'm not trying to convert anyone. i want people to start using reason. and if they believe in fairy tales, i want them to keep it to themselves, out of planned parenthood and out of public high schools.
you can't convert to atheism. atheism is an absence of belief. do you feel you're a convert to not believing in vishnu or krishna? you just have no belief in them. you understand that there is no evidence for them. it's all arbitrary anyway. if you were indian you might.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
You haven't answered the question. How do you intend to get people to 'start using reason'?
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited BY ASKING THEM. books by atheists are big sellers, books have usually been the biggest spreaders of ideas. non-religious people are about 16% of the US population, and that's doubled in the past decade. people are getting sick of this shit.
you should try infidel by ayaan hirsi ali, a great woman. try that along with animal farm by orwell. although you don't seem like a big reader.
i'm still waiting to see if you think you'll be in the 144,000. are you a virgin?
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
"By asking them"? Based on our conversation, it seems your method is to pick fights when people don't agree with you. I don't think you care about religion, you just want a reason to bitch. You want a cause you can fight as long as you can call people names and do what you can to ruin their day. Something is missing in your life, you need to find it.
Until then, good luck.
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited no my life is pretty good. i'm sorry if i ruined your day. i think my day was ruined when i 5 and realized there was no tooth fairy. if i wanted a reason to bitch, i think i'd pick something less complicated than religion. i'm not bitching, i'm simply stating facts. good job trying to defend the bible though!
sweden and denmark are much less religious than the US, and the US is the most religious developed country. those are facts. and i still think you should read animal farm.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
More things you are wrong about:
Religion in Sweden:
thearda*com/internationalData/countries/Country_215_1*asp
Religion in Denmark:
thearda*com/internationalData/countries/Country_66_1*asp
Religion in the US:
thearda*com/internationalData/countries/Country_234_1*asp
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited no, sorry. look at this website. a state church membership, for things like weddings, doesn't necessarily determine a strong belief in god.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited sorry, here it is:
adherents*com/largecom/com_atheist.html
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited oh, and on top of all of that, i'm going to tell them that they're going to tortured endlessly after they die if they don't join me and give me money. even though i have absolutely no evidence, i'm still going to scare them. and i'm going to tell them that a day is coming, sometime soon, when they're all going to be judged. except i again have no proof, and no timeframe in mind.
how does that sound?
karlsmith00 1 year ago
@karlsmith00
For some reason, YouTube isn't posting half my responses, so I am calling it a night. I'll respond to any new posts when they all clear.
In finishing, I think you need to stop assuming somebody is something based on interpreted understanding of who they are based on their affiliations. During our entire conversation you have not made one accurate assessment of who I am, besides that I believe in God. It would do you good to converse, not simply judge. Ironic isn't it!
SnoopySuited 1 year ago
@SnoopySuited btw you're an atheist just like me. you're an atheist when it comes to the hindu gods (which about 1 billion people believe in today), egyptian, viking, greek, inca, aztec, etc.
you're an atheist when it comes to the vast majority of gods people have believed in throughout human history. and you do that because you don't have any proof for them. i just go one step further than you to the actual number of gods--ZERO.
and yes, atheism increase as intelligence does.
karlsmith00 1 year ago
i love adam, but he's only contributing to her ability to be an unholy bitch by having her on the show.
d983394 1 year ago
Mark 12:29-12:31 Ms. Roper.....
critter505 1 year ago
Shirley is awesome.
TheNaturalSpark 1 year ago
Can't wait for a Westboro funeral. imagine the protests.
joleendg 1 year ago
@joleendg And bottles of urine to throw AAAAH I'M EXCITED!!!!
ChristewieTV 1 year ago
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@joleendg - "Can't wait for a Westboro funeral. imagine the protests.
joleendg 2 weeks ago" - potential for lulz is very very high.
WiiClassic2usb 1 year ago
Adam carolla is the SHIT for this
Seriously just treat the morons like morons and laugh at them. They are just stupid.
Justsmoke42O 1 year ago
Hahaha...I love Adam. This is the true way to beat these nuts. With comic indifference. They do not deserve anything more from us. ~ from an American Soldier who loves her country!!!!
mellayla33 1 year ago 2
Can't go to canada either.......they'd put you in jail
RobNLynchburgVA 1 year ago 2
rofl @ 4:43
tsdcX 1 year ago
Adam is asian?
SJ267 1 year ago
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DoNotBeHighandMighty 1 year ago
Wow... Carolla paints quite the picture at the end there... good job
SnakeBite27 1 year ago
why hasnt anyone actually killed her, or blown up her church i mean come on... you guys are american you alll have guns and shes still breathing????
BumJuiceDrinker 1 year ago
Thank you adam carolla for takin on queen bitch.
ForceRecon29 1 year ago
Shirley Phelps and the whole family that is the Westboro Baptist Church, are all brainwashed nutbags.
somewhatlongdong 1 year ago 3
So, she'll only protest in areas where she won't go to jail? What a fucking hypocrite!!!!!!!!!!
daggett588525 1 year ago
LOL! this bitch needs to get a big huge cock shoved deep and hard in her fucking pussy
SupportAlexJones 1 year ago
@SupportAlexJones id rather stick a broomstick with barbed wire wrapped around it up her fucking pussy
BumJuiceDrinker 1 year ago
@BumJuiceDrinker That is a little to nice she would enjoy that.. you should be more creative than that dude.. She needs a fist in her ass while someone force fucks her face gaging her making her swallow your load LOL!
SupportAlexJones 1 year ago
@SupportAlexJones I dont want any sexual contact with that satanic tranny
BumJuiceDrinker 1 year ago
@BumJuiceDrinker Aww, But it would be fun having a gang bang with her.. She probably sucks good cock lmfao.. Plus with her hatred and anger oh man she would be a beast in bed LOL!
SupportAlexJones 1 year ago
@SupportAlexJones well as long as I can puke on her face while I do then im game
BumJuiceDrinker 1 year ago
Any time that Shirley is being interviewed, she should be forced to wear a shock collar, and whenever she interupts the interviewer, she should get shocked.
xGimpyx 1 year ago
@xGimpyx I think it would short circuit from overuse within the first 30 seconds.
jacktheripper300 1 year ago
The Bible was written by the same people who thought the earth was flat.
Maartuh12356 1 year ago 4
@Maartuh12356 And the people who apparently thought that unicorns and giants roamed the earth.
oathkeeper27 1 year ago