@vaughnage92 its from a video about the baja 1000, my buddy has it, its pretty good. It tells you all about all the little things that go into putting on an event like this.
the fact that these bikes and guys reach over 100mph in places is crazy and testament to the riders bravery,bikes reliability and the tuners that develop the bikes. the fact these start out as a fairly wheezy xr650 shows how versatile the xr is. great bikes with a range for full on desert racing at the top level down to begginers who need a smooth motor with enough power to have fun yet not be intimidating. nice vid
@Juggernautishere They don't produce anywhere near that much power. It depends if you are measuring power at the crank or the wheel but 60hp (wheel) is about the limit for the XRR (unless you really get stuck into it, do we count turbochargers? More CCs? Changes in compression? etc etc). Unless you throw a lot of money at it, the XRL produces low 30s and the XRR low 40s as far as bhp goes. Yeah, I know power differs from dyno to dyno. For e.g. I had a dyno rate my R1200GS at 130bhp (crank) lol.
I got a friend that tarded one out for the street and rails the hell out of some canyon roads. This thing pulls from some sportbikes in the straights.
@EatmyDust1311 The XR650R and XR650L are completely different bikes. In fact, turn signals, some electrical, some plastics, levers and oil filters, are the only common parts between the XRL & XRR. This is true across most XR series bikes. If you compare the parts lists between the bikes you will find that they share only a few parts. Suspension, frame and engine don't have 1 common part between the XRR & XRL (Apart from bolts and the like). EatmyDust has obviously never seen the two bikes.
@EatmyDust1311 Also, you 'should' know that the XRR is 277lb VS the XRL's 324lb (both dry). So where is this 'added weight' that you are talking about? Obviously the suspension is tuned different... they have COMPLETELY different suspension units (front and back, even brand) on COMPLETELY different bikes. Everyone who has ever bothered to research the bikes, much less own them knows all of this. Stop making things up and talking like an expert. I'm no expert, just an owner, and I know this.
@kalmte123 The XR650R and XR650L are completely different bikes. In fact, turn signals, some electrical, some plastics, levers and oil filters, are the only common parts between the XRL & XRR. This is true across most XR series bikes. If you compare the parts lists between the XRR & XRL you will find that they share only a few parts. Suspension, frame and engine don't have 1 common part between the XRR & XRL (Apart from bolts and the like). EatmyDust has obviously never seen the two bikes.
@MrDoso39 The main reason was marketing; Honda wanted to transfer from the XR line to the CRF line. Basically, more consumers started to buy bikes based primarily on their stats; weight, power, how many races they won this year... The XR650R was not designed for the same pure-performance application as the CRF450 but people were comparing the XR650R to the CRF, WR and KLX which is not the point. Recently, people have going back to bigger thumpers (690 Enduro etc) but its too late for the XR650R
@Pwn00b it is a pretty bad reazon, because there isnt any similar motorcycle like this in any other mark inclusive. My 650r have a acerbis tank and y like to do travels for my large country. Thanks you.
@EatmyDust1311 these bike are commpletely different. suspension frame etc. plz quit pretending you know anything... no more bad advice. the r is way better and the motor is water cooled.
@rideredification no, the frame is the same. the engine on the r doesnt have the emissions equipment and the suspension is tuuned more for street riding. other than that, its "basically" the same machine. of course there are more details but i have no time to explain it all.
Nice save ! XRS RULE ! super light... no, super fun... yes. will your bike be in the shop... no. youll be out riding while your buddys super fancy expensive bike is busted. i believe 2010 is the last year for even the xr650l. get ready for much pricier bike$ from honda in the future. the XRS were hands down the most fun on 2 wheels !
ive always wanted to run the baja on somthing stupid, i have an odle atc 125m, no suspension or anything, i may try to run it on that (probly not) lol
They talk about possibly missing the check point, but it is a chance they were going to take to catch up with the leader. He has a freaking headset to talk to the helicopter, which would be able to see the checkpoint. Talk about a dirty, cheating team. Let the two race and see who comes out ahead. Andy kicked ass. I have watched this movie and clips more than any other movies or clips. It still gives me the chills. Racing kicks ass and always will. i am older now but still love to get out and ri
XR 650 R, the most stable and confident feeling bike I ever ridden. The faster you go the more stable. Only minus, lots of vibration in the bars made my hands numb, but that didnt stop me from twisting the throttle. I haven been this excited about a bike since the '77 RM 125. Oh, anyone ride the KTM 950 se yet?
There is something very special about an XRR, people go on and on about 450's, they are a lot lighter, and make a lot of power, but until you have ridden ann XR650R somewhere that it was made to run(fast fire road, desert, DS), you will just never understand. The torque that these bikes make is so sweet and so fun. Sure on paper 450's make about as much HP, but the pigs power is just so different. You can also wear out 3 or 4 450's before one XR, thats where a lot of that weight comes from.
You are absolutely right about the XR. It is a blast to ride. But the thing is if you are riding track the 450, any brand, kicks it but because of weight and power. I have the 450 for track but if I could (hopefully on day) I would have both.
I rode an XR 650 R across the entire United States 11,000 miles on the Trans-America trail. Trust me, this bike is so rediculously AWESOME!!!! My XR 650 R is a daily driver and goes over 100+ MPH with mods. I can't say enough about this legendary motorcycle. They are AMAZING!! And as far as comfort, yeah its nowhere near as comfortable as a BMW but when you've been riding a dirt bike for many years all I use is a beaded seat cover and I'm good for 400+ miles on or off-road!!!!
there is no set lines in the baja , you pass check points and it doesnt matter how you get to them , guys get lost for hours and finish in the standings , parts break, accidents happen , some teams just flat out have endless amounts of money to spend, take any line you can and finish in the top . this was good racing
A stock XR650R will outstrip virtually any stock dirtbike on the planet. Very few (if any) dirtbikes can touch 100mph, the XR will pull 110mph out of the crate... with no alterations... across the desert. The XR650R's ability as a Baja machine is beyond dispute, just watch the video above if you're in any doubt. For bullet proof performance without crippling service intervals, there's no other machine like it.
The XR 650R is an incredible desert racer. It has won every professional desert race its entered . It remains one of the few stock dirt bikes that can touch 100 mph
this movie is awesome. ive watched it over and over and over.
but to 450 vs 650, the 450 wins. sorry. this was filmed in 07 or earlier, before the technology to make a 450 last 1000 miles straight was availible. thats why it took them so long to adapt to the distance. now that they have, theyre better in every way. much more hp can come from the moto motor than the 650. thoes factory 450s are faster/lighter/stronger/better handling than the 650s. ture though, the 650 is and will be legendary
Ever been on an XR650R fella? FUCKIN' BIBLICAL.. (you obviously couldn't get hold of one and had to settle for it's little bro... no problem though, at least it's a Honda) No offence, 450's are good, but there's never going to be another 650R.
. FInally the XR650R has a bullet proof engine, unlike the CRF which needs more costly maintenance. Its not uncommon to see 30,000kms on a XR650R with zero motor work. Something you will never see on a CRF.
They know people are a bit uuhhh what can I say .... dumb and are willing to fork out hard earned cash for no reason, so sell a bike that needs new piston & rings every 22hours (Thats the manual!!!! 22 hours?????!!!!!!!)
Those numbers are straight from Honda. Honda's choice to discontinue the XR650R was a pure marketing decision, there is a bigger market for CRF450R riders. I have a buddy who owns a XR650R and the rest of my friends have modified their 450's but can NOT stay with the XR on the top end. The XR has alot more torque which means it can pull a higher gear ratio.
I think you will be shocked to know how low the real numbers are. Those numbers you have quoted are NOT from Honda!!! If so please post the link as Honda never posts dyno's or rating for any bike they make. You will find that Yamaha on a lot of models WONT tell you the weight of the bike on several models!!!!!
They are NOT a reliable source of information - They recently created a rumor of 52hp for the 450R - IT WAS WAY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is there a reason the last ten years finish times are slower than all the years before???? - LOOK IT UP <- FACT
The XR650 makes slightly more HP and torque than a 450R
450R=11500rpm
650R=7500rpm
Check the dyno's
The XR650 is not a lot faster in the open than a 450X!!! That is why pro's do NOT choose a 650 but rather ride a 450X Lighter and easier to ride than a tank.
Dont be struck by a YouTube Vid - Check the facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here are the dyno charts below MotoUSA for 450 = 48hp /watch?v=1xPDjj1vzsY MotoUSA for Stock and moded /watch?v=2JPn_RiKbMU XR650 Stock = 45.23hp Moded = 53.45hp MotoUSA runs reputable dynos. Sorry if that was not what you expected. Most people inflate HP rating a bit / LOT You will find a worked 450X will do better than a worked XR650!!! In reality the 12000rpm really gives it a jump start on gear shifts - So would be a whole LOT faster. (Holding gears for longer) NOTE THE TORQUE!!!
I dont do desert events, I do woods rivers, rocks and ledges. I have NEVER seen ANYBODY silly enough to bring one to a woods event! You WILL need to be the governor of Cali to get it over the 5000th log or to carry it out of the rocks/bog holes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes I have ridden one, but never owned one...never felt the need to have one!
That's exactly the point, the XR650R was designed specifically for desert events. If you don't do desert events then how would you know what the rave was about? If you don't do desert events then how do you qualify to comment on the performance?
How is it that you seem to think you know something about a race other than statistics or bits and bobs you have read here and there ... and that all the way from the UK - YOU LIVE 18000km from the event LOL
Have you done a Desert event or a local Enduro in the UK that makes you able to comment OR do you just ride yours up and down a road?
Have you done even ONE Enduro...or even been to watch one ROTFLMAO
This road work gives you a supreme Enduro experience???
Travelling on a 650 or whatever up and down roads IS NOT AN ENDURO OR A RACE! Its a nice holiday in South America. ITS NOT A ENDURO its a holiday as done by 1000's of others across the world and yes best done on a 650 or MORE!
Real Enduro best done on a SMALL LIGHT WEIGHT BIKE - YEP EVEN A TRIALS BIKE! AND A LOT ARE DONE ON A TRIALS BIKE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ANY FOOL THERE ON A 650!!!!
I have done Enduro for years and have NEVER EVER seen a 650 participate!
I dont give a rats if your the president of Columbia - How is it meant to impress me that your a dentist? Whats your point?
As a dentist I would have assumed you might have had a bit more $ and bought the BMW rather than a redundant old bike that has not been in production for years!
If youre financially strapped the 650 is a good choice!
You think its a good idea to be 46 I wish I was 30+ years younger so that I could ride competition all over again! 46 = gone your use by date and now compete in VETERANS or in some cases now only ride up and down roads
As a Dentist on a XR650 proves youre not very financially smart Why would you need to buy a old bike and then feel like youre on the top of the pile In a Nano second could come up with better bikes to tour through various continents on
There's actually two routes mate, loop and point-to-point. Both are different lengths (incidentally, neither are 1000 miles, popular misconception though). Back to Wikipedia for you I'm afraid... LOL
Where's your dyno proof? You can't just spout pish without producing the proof mate. By the way, the 650 has already been retired (more than two years ago). The 450 is simply more profitable due to it's parts usage and service intervals (also because the 650's almost a decade old now). Again, back to Wiki for you I think fella...
..wasn't going to embarrass you by re-posting your original comment (because you completely contradicted yourself.. again) but since you insist, I take it you mean this comment..
JustEnduro: The XR650 makes slightly more HP and torque than a 450R
Check out the dyno for the facts as I looked them up after...just to find out the 650 has LESS performance than a 450 WTF? I knew it was close
Amazed that you bought a bike that is slower than most motards and a WHOLE lot slower in every way than a 550 Aprilia After all you are only doing ROAD work with the bike - It must be the numbers on the side cover?
Performance is NOT its greatest point
Reliability IS!
Whole lot slower than a dozen motards that will ride the same TAR roads
What is it with this guy (JustEnduro)?? So much Venom and latent hostility towards the XRR. I'd love to know what his real story is... d'you think it's just that he'd like a new bike but can't afford one? Dunno... just trying to work out why you would be watching videos of the XRR when you own two small 2-stokes and don't do desert events...
Funny thing about those little 2 strokes is that the 650 only just produces more HP than the 200 That same little 200 is probably one of the most popular Enduro bikes in Europe!
650 compared to a 300 in the woods = NO COMP
Straight line drag also no comp to 80mph
HP and torque also no comp
Price unfortunately the 650 wins as it is a whole lot cheaper!
I never comped bikes as bikes are a personal choice. I like mine and dont EXPECT everybody to like them as well - Thats a bit juvenile
@JustEnduro... No sign of those illusive specs/dynos you promised, just silence... hmm
Ok, as promised I will attempt to educate you with regards to the difference in power output between the XR650R and the CFR450R (to save you embarrassing yourself in future..).
These are figures obtained directly from the Honda Dealer (measurements taken at flywheel)..
At 6500rpm the 450 is only just starting to rev - They do over 12000rpm before the limiter kicks in - You dont really know anything about bikes do you? Its all guess work there...right?
A 450 lives at OVER 10000rpm on a track LOL Why do you think they break so quick and require so many rebuilds?
@JustEnduro.. Yep, all guess-work. Honda are guessing too.. (after all, they only make both bikes LOL) Honestly, you need to treat yourself. Go and buy a new machine and get rid of the Chinese bikes, I said that it's ok...
@JustEnduro.. Get yourself down to the Honda dealership and confirm the official specs and then treat yourself (you're obviously a latent XR650R lover in denial). On the way home, nip into your local institution and get your own specs checked.. just for peace of mind. LOL
In all seriousness (and with all due respect) ride safe and take it easy...
hey, I have the dvd, its great, actually its a movie that they made about the baja 1000 look for it, the title of the dvd is DUST TO GLORY. good luck..
best bike ive had for a long time the 650r loves the australian desert not to bad on the fire trails aswell.they stoped making the 650r and the 400r because they were to damb reliable.didnt make any money on parts.
About 41 hp stone stock (in California, anyway), 50+ uncorked, 60+ with the power-up kit. Some guys get more than that. It just depends how much you want to spend!
I hope Honda will put that excellent motor in a dualsport bike soon, but for racing, the 450s are lighter and just as fast. Much higher maintenance, though. Race teams can afford it. Not me!
Mine handles freeways and mountain trails, no problem. Keep the oil changed, and the valves adjusted, and they'll last for years. KING!
too bad honda doesnt make this bike anymore.
crashedupderby 3 weeks ago
@crashedupderby they do but not a liquid cooled r version
hondaspeed152 2 weeks ago
@hondaspeed152
then thats not the same bike.
crashedupderby 2 weeks ago
2:55 What a god
FadesEntertainment 5 months ago
what is this from?
eelmcd 6 months ago
@eelmcd Its a Baja 1000 movie called "dust to glory"
edgarinv 4 months ago
like it
741184 8 months ago
no no Please no ending
doliminoque 8 months ago
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i just got through watching this movie its called dust to glory yall shuld check it out its badass
hagination922 8 months ago
at 3:01 i really really thought he crash what a powerful ass BIKE
lonnie8911 9 months ago
is awesome video
MARIANO4155 9 months ago
Where can we find the full video? Sick race, epic video, honda power.
kc958 10 months ago
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@kc958 From dust to Glory. You gotta see it!
R6ken02 7 months ago
@vaughnage92 its from a video about the baja 1000, my buddy has it, its pretty good. It tells you all about all the little things that go into putting on an event like this.
burmbanshee 10 months ago
that beach shot was effin doooope hahah
NNGonzalez 11 months ago
what is this from? is it a like documentary or somethin?
vaughnage92 11 months ago
Malcom Smith will always be the king of the desert.
jdog942 11 months ago
This is awesome love to do the baja 1000 someday!!
NoFear107 1 year ago
My dad rides a XR250R but i'm on a ktm 200 exc. Both awesome bikes. what movie is this from?
alpinestars360 1 year ago
Is it normal to get horny off of these kinda videos?
toyota399 1 year ago
the fact that these bikes and guys reach over 100mph in places is crazy and testament to the riders bravery,bikes reliability and the tuners that develop the bikes. the fact these start out as a fairly wheezy xr650 shows how versatile the xr is. great bikes with a range for full on desert racing at the top level down to begginers who need a smooth motor with enough power to have fun yet not be intimidating. nice vid
mgtkr1 1 year ago
I'd trade my wife for this bike......if I had a wife
MDSJudicator 1 year ago
Where is the end of this?
shorerydr10 1 year ago
honda should bring an updated version soon. CRF just not for everyday use, or extended touring
nxcalvin 1 year ago
thanks know i have to watch dust to glory today lol
Peezybro13 1 year ago
the dislike buttons like justin biebers dick it grows when fagots touch it...
gnarvids 1 year ago
@Juggernautishere They don't produce anywhere near that much power. It depends if you are measuring power at the crank or the wheel but 60hp (wheel) is about the limit for the XRR (unless you really get stuck into it, do we count turbochargers? More CCs? Changes in compression? etc etc). Unless you throw a lot of money at it, the XRL produces low 30s and the XRR low 40s as far as bhp goes. Yeah, I know power differs from dyno to dyno. For e.g. I had a dyno rate my R1200GS at 130bhp (crank) lol.
Pwn00b 1 year ago
I got a friend that tarded one out for the street and rails the hell out of some canyon roads. This thing pulls from some sportbikes in the straights.
andykeyes2000 1 year ago
how does the klx 650and the xr 650 stack up aginst each other in stock condition,wondering because im lookin at a klx
wind2jammer 1 year ago
@wind2jammer the xr is better for dirt the klx more of a commuter
rideredification 1 year ago
esta movie esta pasada de lansa de llama dust to glory perrisisisisma la neta
limon1281 1 year ago
i'm so sad...no more xr's are made
chucktherock91 1 year ago
@chucktherock91 the XR650L is still made. Stip the turn signals, metal gas tank and emission crap and you have a brand new 650R
EatmyDust1311 1 year ago
@EatmyDust1311 doesn't the suspension differ, as well as aircooled vs watercooled, etc?
kalmte123 1 year ago
@kalmte123 they 'might' tune it slightly differently due to the added weight of a water jacket, but that can be easily adjusted for
EatmyDust1311 1 year ago
@EatmyDust1311 The XR650R and XR650L are completely different bikes. In fact, turn signals, some electrical, some plastics, levers and oil filters, are the only common parts between the XRL & XRR. This is true across most XR series bikes. If you compare the parts lists between the bikes you will find that they share only a few parts. Suspension, frame and engine don't have 1 common part between the XRR & XRL (Apart from bolts and the like). EatmyDust has obviously never seen the two bikes.
Pwn00b 1 year ago
@Pwn00b troll
EatmyDust1311 1 year ago
@EatmyDust1311 Also, you 'should' know that the XRR is 277lb VS the XRL's 324lb (both dry). So where is this 'added weight' that you are talking about? Obviously the suspension is tuned different... they have COMPLETELY different suspension units (front and back, even brand) on COMPLETELY different bikes. Everyone who has ever bothered to research the bikes, much less own them knows all of this. Stop making things up and talking like an expert. I'm no expert, just an owner, and I know this.
Pwn00b 1 year ago
@kalmte123 The XR650R and XR650L are completely different bikes. In fact, turn signals, some electrical, some plastics, levers and oil filters, are the only common parts between the XRL & XRR. This is true across most XR series bikes. If you compare the parts lists between the XRR & XRL you will find that they share only a few parts. Suspension, frame and engine don't have 1 common part between the XRR & XRL (Apart from bolts and the like). EatmyDust has obviously never seen the two bikes.
Pwn00b 1 year ago
@Pwn00b Do you know how was the reason for Honda didnt make this incredible motorcycle?
MrDoso39 1 year ago
@MrDoso39 The main reason was marketing; Honda wanted to transfer from the XR line to the CRF line. Basically, more consumers started to buy bikes based primarily on their stats; weight, power, how many races they won this year... The XR650R was not designed for the same pure-performance application as the CRF450 but people were comparing the XR650R to the CRF, WR and KLX which is not the point. Recently, people have going back to bigger thumpers (690 Enduro etc) but its too late for the XR650R
Pwn00b 1 year ago
@Pwn00b it is a pretty bad reazon, because there isnt any similar motorcycle like this in any other mark inclusive. My 650r have a acerbis tank and y like to do travels for my large country. Thanks you.
MrDoso39 1 year ago
@EatmyDust1311 these bike are commpletely different. suspension frame etc. plz quit pretending you know anything... no more bad advice. the r is way better and the motor is water cooled.
rideredification 1 year ago
@rideredification no, the frame is the same. the engine on the r doesnt have the emissions equipment and the suspension is tuuned more for street riding. other than that, its "basically" the same machine. of course there are more details but i have no time to explain it all.
EatmyDust1311 1 year ago
Nice save ! XRS RULE ! super light... no, super fun... yes. will your bike be in the shop... no. youll be out riding while your buddys super fancy expensive bike is busted. i believe 2010 is the last year for even the xr650l. get ready for much pricier bike$ from honda in the future. the XRS were hands down the most fun on 2 wheels !
hessdx1 1 year ago
sick!
lancebangwell 1 year ago
i loved that movie. Dust to glory :)
iRide12295 1 year ago
i wanna go riding noww! D:
kirchhoff1814 1 year ago
Hondas kick ass
mycatwilatackyou 1 year ago
baha sucks
parmstrong32x 1 year ago
@parmstrong32x no, but your spelling does
bandguy360 1 year ago
i did the baja on a crf230f but with many mods
ridecrazy11 1 year ago
@ridecrazy11 how do u join??
its my dream to race in this
somguyonline1245 1 year ago
@ridecrazy11 how do u join??
its my dream to race in this
somguyonline1245 1 year ago
that is a red pig, the off road king!
duckling21 1 year ago
HONDA BRING BACK THE XR650R !
KendrickMcMurphy 1 year ago
ive always wanted to run the baja on somthing stupid, i have an odle atc 125m, no suspension or anything, i may try to run it on that (probly not) lol
shrimpofeating 1 year ago
you guys can get the whole movie of the baja 1000 , its called, "dust to glory"
jacob13mtb 1 year ago
good movie, sad at the end n stuff it makes ya feel like no more riding lol
musiclovr2 1 year ago
They talk about possibly missing the check point, but it is a chance they were going to take to catch up with the leader. He has a freaking headset to talk to the helicopter, which would be able to see the checkpoint. Talk about a dirty, cheating team. Let the two race and see who comes out ahead. Andy kicked ass. I have watched this movie and clips more than any other movies or clips. It still gives me the chills. Racing kicks ass and always will. i am older now but still love to get out and ri
ryche2882 1 year ago 5
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3p0Drew 1 year ago
very true the faster u go the more stable. I love my X650!! Just lean back and hit the power and it acts like a Trophy truck over the bumps!!
3p0Drew 1 year ago
XR 650 R, the most stable and confident feeling bike I ever ridden. The faster you go the more stable. Only minus, lots of vibration in the bars made my hands numb, but that didnt stop me from twisting the throttle. I haven been this excited about a bike since the '77 RM 125. Oh, anyone ride the KTM 950 se yet?
boonkbu 2 years ago
There is something very special about an XRR, people go on and on about 450's, they are a lot lighter, and make a lot of power, but until you have ridden ann XR650R somewhere that it was made to run(fast fire road, desert, DS), you will just never understand. The torque that these bikes make is so sweet and so fun. Sure on paper 450's make about as much HP, but the pigs power is just so different. You can also wear out 3 or 4 450's before one XR, thats where a lot of that weight comes from.
24kobepwns24 2 years ago
You are absolutely right about the XR. It is a blast to ride. But the thing is if you are riding track the 450, any brand, kicks it but because of weight and power. I have the 450 for track but if I could (hopefully on day) I would have both.
ryche2882 1 year ago
baja 650R
rin1987 2 years ago
Outstanding pictures!
N9155E 2 years ago
I rode an XR 650 R across the entire United States 11,000 miles on the Trans-America trail. Trust me, this bike is so rediculously AWESOME!!!! My XR 650 R is a daily driver and goes over 100+ MPH with mods. I can't say enough about this legendary motorcycle. They are AMAZING!! And as far as comfort, yeah its nowhere near as comfortable as a BMW but when you've been riding a dirt bike for many years all I use is a beaded seat cover and I'm good for 400+ miles on or off-road!!!!
bmurman222 2 years ago 26
@bmurman222 I used to own the 2002 xr650r and sold it, needless to say im buying another one in about 5 weeks. It is a true offrode king!!!
Th2EyA0rEa1MoN2gUs 1 year ago
@bmurman222 how did u get the r street legal?
DecaPierce 1 year ago
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there is no set lines in the baja , you pass check points and it doesnt matter how you get to them , guys get lost for hours and finish in the standings , parts break, accidents happen , some teams just flat out have endless amounts of money to spend, take any line you can and finish in the top . this was good racing
myspeedvision2 2 months ago
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XR650R
Power 61.2hp @ 6750 rpm _period,
theonlyonepaulo 2 years ago
A stock XR650R will outstrip virtually any stock dirtbike on the planet. Very few (if any) dirtbikes can touch 100mph, the XR will pull 110mph out of the crate... with no alterations... across the desert. The XR650R's ability as a Baja machine is beyond dispute, just watch the video above if you're in any doubt. For bullet proof performance without crippling service intervals, there's no other machine like it.
banfordg 2 years ago 2
The XR 650R is an incredible desert racer. It has won every professional desert race its entered . It remains one of the few stock dirt bikes that can touch 100 mph
cjtb666 2 years ago 3
this movie is awesome. ive watched it over and over and over.
but to 450 vs 650, the 450 wins. sorry. this was filmed in 07 or earlier, before the technology to make a 450 last 1000 miles straight was availible. thats why it took them so long to adapt to the distance. now that they have, theyre better in every way. much more hp can come from the moto motor than the 650. thoes factory 450s are faster/lighter/stronger/better handling than the 650s. ture though, the 650 is and will be legendary
stupidfast692 2 years ago
Ever been on an XR650R fella? FUCKIN' BIBLICAL.. (you obviously couldn't get hold of one and had to settle for it's little bro... no problem though, at least it's a Honda) No offence, 450's are good, but there's never going to be another 650R.
banfordg 2 years ago
110 on a fucking BEACH! Try doing that on your 450!
meow6669 2 years ago 3
...well where can i watch stuff like this on tv?
manofmagic64 2 years ago
its nice that you used the footage from "dust to glory"
tankerboysabot 2 years ago
. FInally the XR650R has a bullet proof engine, unlike the CRF which needs more costly maintenance. Its not uncommon to see 30,000kms on a XR650R with zero motor work. Something you will never see on a CRF.
KendrickMcMurphy 2 years ago 4
Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats why Honda dont want them LOL
Bit like 2T
They know people are a bit uuhhh what can I say .... dumb and are willing to fork out hard earned cash for no reason, so sell a bike that needs new piston & rings every 22hours (Thats the manual!!!! 22 hours?????!!!!!!!)
JustEnduro 2 years ago 5
Those numbers are straight from Honda. Honda's choice to discontinue the XR650R was a pure marketing decision, there is a bigger market for CRF450R riders. I have a buddy who owns a XR650R and the rest of my friends have modified their 450's but can NOT stay with the XR on the top end. The XR has alot more torque which means it can pull a higher gear ratio.
KendrickMcMurphy 2 years ago 4
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JustEnduro 2 years ago
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I think you will be shocked to know how low the real numbers are. Those numbers you have quoted are NOT from Honda!!! If so please post the link as Honda never posts dyno's or rating for any bike they make. You will find that Yamaha on a lot of models WONT tell you the weight of the bike on several models!!!!!
They are NOT a reliable source of information - They recently created a rumor of 52hp for the 450R - IT WAS WAY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
there is a reason why the only use honda's for this and why they only use 4strokes for this kind of stuff
MrPierrestam 2 years ago
@MrPierrestam
Is there a reason the last ten years finish times are slower than all the years before???? - LOOK IT UP <- FACT
The XR650 makes slightly more HP and torque than a 450R
450R=11500rpm
650R=7500rpm
Check the dyno's
The XR650 is not a lot faster in the open than a 450X!!! That is why pro's do NOT choose a 650 but rather ride a 450X Lighter and easier to ride than a tank.
Dont be struck by a YouTube Vid - Check the facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
650 = Nice to go to the shops on
LOL
JustEnduro 2 years ago
Alot of what you said is true: Here are the numbers:
XR650R : (HP-61) & (Torque - 60ft/lbs)
CRF450R : (HP - 55) & (Torque - 36ft/lbs)
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JustEnduro 2 years ago
Hmmm.. you wish you had a 650R, don't you.. lol!!
banfordg 2 years ago
Not at all - I'm into Enduro, trIals & trails.
I run a 200 and a 300 2 stroker!
If I wanted to pop down to the local shops for some milk the 650 may be nice...but other than that no not really!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
You've never ridden one have you...
banfordg 2 years ago
Youve never ridden an Enduro have you?
I dont do desert events, I do woods rivers, rocks and ledges. I have NEVER seen ANYBODY silly enough to bring one to a woods event! You WILL need to be the governor of Cali to get it over the 5000th log or to carry it out of the rocks/bog holes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes I have ridden one, but never owned one...never felt the need to have one!
Simply put dont know what the rave is about.
JustEnduro 2 years ago
That's exactly the point, the XR650R was designed specifically for desert events. If you don't do desert events then how would you know what the rave was about? If you don't do desert events then how do you qualify to comment on the performance?
banfordg 2 years ago
How is it that you seem to think you know something about a race other than statistics or bits and bobs you have read here and there ... and that all the way from the UK - YOU LIVE 18000km from the event LOL
Have you done a Desert event or a local Enduro in the UK that makes you able to comment OR do you just ride yours up and down a road?
Have you done even ONE Enduro...or even been to watch one ROTFLMAO
This road work gives you a supreme Enduro experience???
JustEnduro 2 years ago
@JustEnduro I HAVE TRAVEL ALL SOUTH AMERICA ON MY KLR , RIVERS, ROCK, LEDGES never seen anybody silly enough to bring a kids bike
( ex pro trial biker from costa rica )
maximocremoso 2 years ago 2
Travelling on a 650 or whatever up and down roads IS NOT AN ENDURO OR A RACE! Its a nice holiday in South America. ITS NOT A ENDURO its a holiday as done by 1000's of others across the world and yes best done on a 650 or MORE!
Real Enduro best done on a SMALL LIGHT WEIGHT BIKE - YEP EVEN A TRIALS BIKE! AND A LOT ARE DONE ON A TRIALS BIKE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ANY FOOL THERE ON A 650!!!!
I have done Enduro for years and have NEVER EVER seen a 650 participate!
I would wish you luck!!! LOL
JustEnduro 2 years ago
If you were a PRO as you put it TRIAL bike rider, THEN YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT AN ENDURO IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A) Doubt the PRO bit!!
B) Doubt the TRIALS BIT!!!!
Next time you do a TRIALS event USE THAT TANK OF YOURS - The 650 wink wink NUDGE NUDGE ..... LOL
You may ride a nice easy trAIl on it but a trIAl - Naaah & Enduro Naaaah
You must be a comedian!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
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maximocremoso 2 years ago
It seems I'm older than you are!!!
And still going strong!!!!
I dont give a rats if your the president of Columbia - How is it meant to impress me that your a dentist? Whats your point?
As a dentist I would have assumed you might have had a bit more $ and bought the BMW rather than a redundant old bike that has not been in production for years!
If youre financially strapped the 650 is a good choice!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
You think its a good idea to be 46 I wish I was 30+ years younger so that I could ride competition all over again! 46 = gone your use by date and now compete in VETERANS or in some cases now only ride up and down roads
As a Dentist on a XR650 proves youre not very financially smart Why would you need to buy a old bike and then feel like youre on the top of the pile In a Nano second could come up with better bikes to tour through various continents on
650 would NOT be on the shopping list!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
The 450X has better times than the 650 as in the 450X is the fastest 4 stroke to complete = 8th fastest time achieved for the event on 2 wheels.
KX500 has the fastest time with Larry Roeseler in 1991 by SEVERAL HOURS!!!!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
Although it's the same distance, The route varies yearly therefore you can't compare times between years.
banfordg 2 years ago
It's pretty much the same route = 1000 miles
They shortened the event ONCE ONLY!!!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
There's actually two routes mate, loop and point-to-point. Both are different lengths (incidentally, neither are 1000 miles, popular misconception though). Back to Wikipedia for you I'm afraid... LOL
banfordg 2 years ago
I did not actually want to say that a stock CRF450R would and does destroy the XR650 on any terrain in any circumstances.
XR650 is a poor performer - it just has a big number on the side cover!
JustEnduro 2 years ago
No, it's got a bigger engine, more horse power, and more torque..
banfordg 2 years ago
Has LESS hp and LESS torque and is WHOLE LOT HEAVIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to check the facts ... not just assume you know the details!!!
Keyboard hero comments dont qualify - Post a dyno or two.
What has won in the last 5 years 650 or 450??? <- Go and look that up on wiki LOL
Why is HONDA about to scrap the 650 all together????
JustEnduro 2 years ago
Where's your dyno proof? You can't just spout pish without producing the proof mate. By the way, the 650 has already been retired (more than two years ago). The 450 is simply more profitable due to it's parts usage and service intervals (also because the 650's almost a decade old now). Again, back to Wiki for you I think fella...
banfordg 2 years ago
PROOF I already posted that...Read one of the comments that you thumbed down LOL
If youre that impressed with the performance of the bike I'm happy for you.
I'd say enjoy the bike...as for a tit for tat debate on YouTube I'll leave that to you as well...I'm sure it makes you feel good.
Hows the weather for riding in the UK right now?
Any good desert events to hone your skills on?
JustEnduro 2 years ago
..wasn't going to embarrass you by re-posting your original comment (because you completely contradicted yourself.. again) but since you insist, I take it you mean this comment..
JustEnduro: The XR650 makes slightly more HP and torque than a 450R
450R=11500rpm
650R=7500rpm
..think you need to seek help dude
banfordg 2 years ago
Check out the dyno for the facts as I looked them up after...just to find out the 650 has LESS performance than a 450 WTF? I knew it was close
Amazed that you bought a bike that is slower than most motards and a WHOLE lot slower in every way than a 550 Aprilia After all you are only doing ROAD work with the bike - It must be the numbers on the side cover?
Performance is NOT its greatest point
Reliability IS!
Whole lot slower than a dozen motards that will ride the same TAR roads
Enjoy
JustEnduro 2 years ago
@JustEnduro Post the figures and I'll educate you so that you don't continue to make this same mistake.
banfordg 2 years ago
@banfordg .........lol please do so
maximocremoso 2 years ago
What is it with this guy (JustEnduro)?? So much Venom and latent hostility towards the XRR. I'd love to know what his real story is... d'you think it's just that he'd like a new bike but can't afford one? Dunno... just trying to work out why you would be watching videos of the XRR when you own two small 2-stokes and don't do desert events...
banfordg 2 years ago
Funny thing about those little 2 strokes is that the 650 only just produces more HP than the 200 That same little 200 is probably one of the most popular Enduro bikes in Europe!
650 compared to a 300 in the woods = NO COMP
Straight line drag also no comp to 80mph
HP and torque also no comp
Price unfortunately the 650 wins as it is a whole lot cheaper!
I never comped bikes as bikes are a personal choice. I like mine and dont EXPECT everybody to like them as well - Thats a bit juvenile
JustEnduro 2 years ago
Go to Akropovic and search for XR650
Read n weep!!!!!!!
There are DOZENS OF DYNO's to be found ALL OVER THE PLACE - Clearly they seam to be too hard to find for you guys....why is that?
Next time fill the waiting room at your surgery and maybe you too will be able to buy a Beamer like every other 46 year old dentist.
Im done here. Ill leave those in the dark to stay in the dark ---- Its a very big powerful monster of a machine..if that makes you feel better.
JustEnduro 2 years ago
@JustEnduro Honestly mate (and I'm being deadly serious here), you need some help...
banfordg 2 years ago
@JustEnduro... No sign of those illusive specs/dynos you promised, just silence... hmm
Ok, as promised I will attempt to educate you with regards to the difference in power output between the XR650R and the CFR450R (to save you embarrassing yourself in future..).
These are figures obtained directly from the Honda Dealer (measurements taken at flywheel)..
XR650R
Power 61.2hp @ 6750 rpm
Torque 64Nm @ 5500 rpm
CRF450R
Power 56hp @ 9000 rpm
Torque 50.7Nm @ 65000 rpm
banfordg 2 years ago
You clearly are in dream land!
You posted them before and they were WRONG
You posted them again ...AND THEY ARE STILL WRONG!
The 650 is NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME HP AS A TWIN 550 APRILIA THAT REVS AT 12000RPM!!!!!
The 450R IS NO WHERE NEAR THAT!!!
EVEN THE MotoUSA DYNO'S ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT AND THEY ARE 4T FANS PAID BY JAPAN!!
Honda claimed 51hp for their 09 and every man and his dog knows it wasnt that...but you dont?
Go to AKRAPOVIC and search for XR650 you FOOL = 45hp stock
JustEnduro 2 years ago
XR650R
Power 45hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque = LESS than a 450!!!!
CRF450R
Power 48hp @ 12000rpm
Torque 42ft lbs @ 12000rpm
At 6500rpm the 450 is only just starting to rev - They do over 12000rpm before the limiter kicks in - You dont really know anything about bikes do you? Its all guess work there...right?
A 450 lives at OVER 10000rpm on a track LOL Why do you think they break so quick and require so many rebuilds?
JustEnduro 2 years ago
@JustEnduro.. Yep, all guess-work. Honda are guessing too.. (after all, they only make both bikes LOL) Honestly, you need to treat yourself. Go and buy a new machine and get rid of the Chinese bikes, I said that it's ok...
banfordg 2 years ago
No sign of those illusive specs/dynos you promised, just silence and BS... hmm
It was funny when you thought a 450 does its best work at 6500rpm - On the track they are doing OVER 12000rpm on the jumps.
Honda never stated 61hp for a 650 ever!!!
Honda never stated 56hp for 450 ever!!!
Please show me where on Honda they said that!!! I know I wont get a response to that LOL
Check mate
You dont seem to be able to stick to the bikes, but prefer to become personal when you loose the plot LOL
JustEnduro 2 years ago
@JustEnduro... Jeeees, did you miss this the first time?? I'm starting to think I'm arguing with some geriatric in an old folks home ROFL
These are figures obtained directly from the Honda Dealer (measurements taken at flywheel)..
XR650R
Power 61.2hp @ 6750 rpm
Torque 64Nm @ 5500 rpm
CRF450R
Power 56hp @ 9000 rpm
Torque 50.7Nm @ 6500 rpm
What's wrong with you man?
banfordg 2 years ago
No those are your number you made up.
Not only are they dumb, but a 10 year old can work out that they are MILES out. No bright spark required.
I have posted you links to actual dynos.
I have shown you where to look!
I think you have clearly made a fool of yourself with those numbers already.
At this point, I give up
The 650 is a roaring big powerful machine that is faster than lightning...there we go...you feeling better now?
JustEnduro 2 years ago
@JustEnduro.. Get yourself down to the Honda dealership and confirm the official specs and then treat yourself (you're obviously a latent XR650R lover in denial). On the way home, nip into your local institution and get your own specs checked.. just for peace of mind. LOL
In all seriousness (and with all due respect) ride safe and take it easy...
banfordg 2 years ago
thats a good movie ive watched it like 100 times no joke
CPKfreedom 2 years ago 3
my dad should bought one of these instesed of a stupid yamaha 225
cr125rguy 2 years ago 3
Wow... this is frickin awesome. These guys are nuts... 110 MPH, flat out, offroad... that's crazy.
partyman6666 2 years ago 11
theres a reason they only use hondas for this kind of stuff
redrider250r 2 years ago 4
So glad I got my 650R before they became impossible to find. Freaking raped son of a bitch, I love her. <3
meow6669 2 years ago 3
nice
miro19dj 2 years ago
Dust to Glory; greatest 650CC documentary ever.
TenaciousTeenager 2 years ago
Damn.. where is the rest of the video??? XR650R rules!! Damn shame it is no longer being offered...
eplatel0704 2 years ago 5
hey, I have the dvd, its great, actually its a movie that they made about the baja 1000 look for it, the title of the dvd is DUST TO GLORY. good luck..
douglasestrada26 2 years ago
This is from the Movie: Dust to Glory, I have it on DVD and its one of my favorite movies of all time!
SuperxSaiyan 2 years ago
where the fuck is the rest god damn it
damn good video
Giftied 2 years ago
amazing vid
pixuma 2 years ago
best bike ive had for a long time the 650r loves the australian desert not to bad on the fire trails aswell.they stoped making the 650r and the 400r because they were to damb reliable.didnt make any money on parts.
nouie66 2 years ago
Big red pig, so damn sick gotta uncork mine. Anyone know where to pick up the other intake insulator online?
tkMALONEmb 2 years ago
Honda please bring back the XR650R.
KendrickMcMurphy 2 years ago 3
I have a Tornado XR250... my dream is to race on the baja 1000.
UNDERTAKER890 2 years ago
Im 15....
UNDERTAKER890 2 years ago
About 41 hp stone stock (in California, anyway), 50+ uncorked, 60+ with the power-up kit. Some guys get more than that. It just depends how much you want to spend!
I hope Honda will put that excellent motor in a dualsport bike soon, but for racing, the 450s are lighter and just as fast. Much higher maintenance, though. Race teams can afford it. Not me!
Mine handles freeways and mountain trails, no problem. Keep the oil changed, and the valves adjusted, and they'll last for years. KING!
bongodave13 2 years ago
I do not know why honda took this bike of production, I proove agaist the KTM 950 SM and the XR 650r is the best bike ever build overall
layaendurance 2 years ago 3
nice video motorcycles are easy to master! ;)
cuco50x 2 years ago
this is a section of the movie "Dust to Glory" one of the best offroad videos ive seen. its coverage of the 2007 Baja 1000
klecarner 2 years ago 3
Close....2004. 2007 was the race from Ensenada to Cabo San Lucas 1290 miles.
danno626 2 years ago
i watched this race live, it was an awesome race
CHECKMIX 2 years ago
what special is this? great vid i would love to see the rest.
scottdeshon 2 years ago
oh yes because the kx is other category this bike doesnt compare with a kx a kx is a diffrence from heaven to earth ;)
lineazo 2 years ago
Grider vs. Campbell. Awesome clip.
fyreopal 2 years ago
This is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hiddengtr 2 years ago
the kx500 is 100 times best than the xr650 and the kx is a little motor
lineazo 2 years ago
your high an xr 650 would kill a kx 500 in a desert race
USCisgay 2 years ago 2
actually i have one of those you bring your kx 500 and then we`ll see ho`s the best bike
6tubeyou 2 years ago 3
KX is a poof in comparison
banfordg 2 years ago
What a bike...
argentina2oo6 2 years ago
bery good
MrHARV73 2 years ago
i remember this in the movie, its a great movie, i recommend it.
Maccaroney08 2 years ago
wow , what a race! 5/5
bobsaget2006 2 years ago
I rode a few times with Andy in high school. He was crazy fast back then. Huge props to his racing accomplishments :)
garetjaxx 2 years ago
this is off of Dust To Glory
gierschey 2 years ago
I ride honda and this brings tears to my eyes 110 mph
MtB1keKing 2 years ago
What year Baja 1000 is this?
joker0807 2 years ago
I think its 03 im guessing but im not sure.
WhitePridefighter666 2 years ago
SWEET!!!!!!!
Cookoo49 2 years ago
sta chio
purotremendo 2 years ago
love how the 650 leaves the camera man out of focus and the pilot to plays catch up before leaving the beach (great machine/great rider).
informationonly 2 years ago
that was so epicly beutiful,i would pay to see it
100coathangers 2 years ago
badass footage!!!!! nothin like flyin across the desert on a fuckin mean machine
jprice4330 2 years ago
AWSOME...F@CKIN AWSOME....
Harbercraftguy 2 years ago
im like, shocked
fbmiranda7 2 years ago
when is the baja 1000???? i know its in the fall but exactly when does it start???
DEASAM23 2 years ago
Check out the Score website for each year. The date and exact location change every year.
skater1on1 2 years ago
first weekend of november
betiux 2 years ago
honda XR is just the best
supermotardmario 2 years ago