You're a bad intentioned agent of desinfo (or an ignorant), like all that youtubers which post nasa stuff. The object that seems to appear from behind the horizon doesn't come from behind the earth. It comes from below, but begins to light up just from the line of the horizon, upwards, so it looks to get out from behind it. The trails are just infrarred artifacts, due to the T of the objects. What are those bodies which react to strange flashes?. Maybe particles which react to wave of light.
@Chiofvi79 I don't know what that was but it was not infrared artifacts reacting to things like light. If it was it would have a consistent trajectory of speed and direction.
The object that appears at the bottom-center of the screen 0:17 moves at the same time as the highlighted object. This is the also the case for a few other objects. Either we are watching multiple UFOs or there is some force moving these objects. People often get very exited about this subject and strongly believe what they see. This causes them to look over crucial aspects like the one i have pointed out.
@KenConLock You are correct. there are sever objects, (six that I can count) that seem to "bounce" into a direction away from earth. these are also the only objects on the screen that move away from the earth. The object on the far left is questionable however, because you never see it "bounce."
Watch any of the particles and you will see some change in velocity at the same time as the circled object changes velocity, and in the same direction as well. In some particles the change in velocity appears to be much greater than others. The simplest explanation: The space ship which is filming this has changed its velocity, and parallax makes this effect much more apparent on particles which are closer to the camera. The circled object is very close to the camera.
I believe UFO's exist, but all I see here are some space particles that change direction when the shuttle does a burn. You can clearly see the flash of light, and many of them changing direction. If it were just ONE changing direction would be special.
I can see how people can think this is the booster.... the only thing that doesnt make sense, is that the frame of reference doesnt chnage at all after the booster has fired. If it really was a booster, the the angle of the horizon would have to change too, but it remains static.....
Im not saying that this a UFO because I agree this isnt conclusive proof, but I dont believe the shuttle booster theory that NASA used to explain this away...
Notice how all those things change direction at the same time, and how many there are. Also watch closely at the beginning, it doesn't originate from behind the planet at all.
Are you saying it is originating from within the planet? Are you referring to Nassim Haramein's theory in which he claims that planets and even the sun is hollow inside with the black whole/ white whole concept of allowing rapid travel between distant places in the galaxy?
@Cfrogboy91 No your mind is fake, how stupid the local idiots in the gullible public are, these aren't no ice particles or space debris that's fucking NONSENSE.
No object bound in a gravitational field can make sharp angle turns or accelerate unless it have internal energy to due work against the g field by thrust.
The object that appear from nowhere stops, u can't stop in a gravitational field unless you can cancel the g field, this can only be accomplish with a anti-gravitational mechanism.
You can't have water droplets forming in the vacuum of space, it will either freeze to the hardness of steel or boil away, depending if the sun is visible or not.
Actually if you look closely there are in fact two points of light that react to the flash..... the obvious one and one comming from the right going to the left then it changes direction
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These are droplets of water on the inside of the portal of the shuttle. Condensation droplets moving in -0- gravity on the glass by air moving inside of the shuttle compartment.
I used to think this video was UFO footage until i saw a video that showed the entire uncropped version... Im sure you all noticed the flash before the object/particle flew away. That flash was the booster from the shuttle.
The video has "been" out and into the public. Nothing NASA can do about it but do damage control. And they don't really care that much. There are so many UFOs in their shuttle videos, they don't even try using their favorite debunker, James Oberg, anymore. They just say "Ice crystals" and couldn't care less if we don't like it.
Yes I agree NASA knows about the UFO's! They must. How in the world could everyone in the world except us few be so dumb to not notice all the UFO's they are very clear in this video.
Lets assess what is visible. I see the blue outline circle change direction rapidly. I observe the object travelling on a curved trajectory fade out of view. If you think otherwise, then you are falling prey to a psychological visual effect. Ask yourself what happens to the objects trail when it changes direction? Does it just stop creating one? I am more than happy to accept "proof" when I see it, but this ain't it. AS, I love your work, but surely you are better than this.
Also, the object in question is clearly not originating from the other side of the planet. At the beginning of the video, it appears in front of the planet. There is however another fast moving object which doesn't follow a purely curved trajectory. @19.5secs a fast moving object enters frame from bottom right. It begins at a shallow angle at the bottom of the frame, but then swoops upwards.
Whatever was fired at it was not very accurate. If indeed this object was as far away as we think then the 'fired' projectile missed by a VERY long way. The 'fired' projectile doesn't even intersect with where the object changes course. It's way off.
If it is indeed some earth government weapon designed to deter bad aliens then I hope they have improved the accuracy quite a bit.
No one really who stands for the official, the established AND WELL FUNDED could talk about the truth because the fundamentals on which they thrive upon would simply collapse. This includes not just science and technology, it largely includes economics, politics and religion. What would really happen if the same percentage of today's people who believe that Truth comes from Authority, change their belief to the opposite? CHAOS. Another consequence would be doubting the current econ. systems.
Yes you're right. I assume you, like me, took physics in high school. It made zero sense right? Yet again proof. THERE IS NO WAY that this is not some sort of alien/government/spy airborne craft, and it is probably sent to bring us to our DOOM. Maybe if the GOV. let us study ECON, politics, religion or REAL PHYSICS in schools then we would be INFORMED instead of SHEEP being lead to a massive government SLAUGHTER.
I love people trying to debunk these videos. Space junk with thrusters =) . And the fact that it changes course milliseconds after the flash?. Its intelligent space junk that doesnt want to die =) . Well we will see in couple of years whos right i guess.
I love the bullshit answers that NASA come up with. Hey NASA here is a question for you, and the theory of probability might lend you an honest answer. How many times can somebody lie before they're caught? Here's a hint, nobody believes you anymore! Hey here's a novel idea. You like to explore right?how's bout exploring the truth!
Hover your mouse over the video and they pop up. you can pause the video and hover over it to read them. If you saw them flicker its probably because you accidentally hovered over the video
ok, watched this video for the 400th time and still see no point of origin for a potential ice particle..it really does seem to come in frame at the horizon..which leads me closer to believe its a proper anomoly. still not prepared to say anything definitive, but certainly remarkable.
Another factor to be aware of is that it's trajectory is curved before the 'flash'. For an object in space to exhibit a curved trajectory requires a constant force to be acting upon it. If the object does NOT emerge from behind the horizon and travel 'in orbit', which explains the curved trajectory very precisely....then what force is acting upon the object ? (Note the object increases in 'size' along the trajectory, implying it is getting closer to the camera)
love this video, but, could these lines simply be ice melting on the window they are looking out?
seems they all move wonky after a very bright flash of light (some sort of thrust from the ship)...which could make most of the drips running down the window change course.
of course, the problem with this theory is the whole no grav thing, so would a ice particle run down, or up in any direction?
This could indeed be melting ice particles. The NASA STS-75 Video (search here) is much weirder, they had a camera that covered the ultraviolet spectrum and all kind of strange sperm like things swam into view.
I would say out of all the nasa films, and most of the terrestrial pictures and videos, the tether video you mentioned is one of the most remarkable...there is no rational explanation of it beyond nasa hoaxed it...or there is a really large energy based...thing up there
like a mile + in size as easily compared.
its that video, and a few others, that make the most profound proof that thiese anomolies are either not studied properly if at all, or being covered up...take your pick.
The other objects don't exhibit anything truly remarkable, at least not that I have seen. Again, these are my views and I could be wrong. In fact I want to be proven wrong.
I've gotten into huge arguments over other STS videos, and frankly I think I embarrassed myself with a lack of optical knowledge. Logic is only as good as the thoroughness of the information it is analyzing.
i'm trying to play devil's advocate here. The object ALMOST comes from behind the horizon... but it seems to actually appear a small yet distinct distance below the horizon.
Could it be a small near-field object that drifts into the light, at a point angularly similar with the earth's horizon? Then, when the blast of light comes, it could explain the sudden rapid acceleration.
Hey zapproowsdower. You'll never convince the diehards, but yes it does look like they are all near field objects (ice).
The one they singled out and circled doesn't come from behind the horizon as they say, it can clearly be seen between the earth and the camera when first seen.
When the flash appears quite a few of the particles on similar trajectories to the one circled also change their trajectories. Look towards the bottom of the screen. I counted 5 changes without trying too hard.
ok the horizon didn't change but your saying that Nasa STS change its movement without changing angle of view first of all that's impossible you cant a direction without your camera angle changing so unless your telling others to be an idiot please try to make sense be for commenting by the way all other moving object in question change direction during the flash from below the surface of earth and neither did the camera angle or horizon changed (Proven wrong)
If my objective analysis offends you, that is your problem. I believe in UFOs, I have seen two first-hand.
I see what you're saying, if the flash of light is indeed a rocket thrust, then the camera's angle should change. You're right. But how much? We're talking many, many miles of distance here.
Imagine you're on a boat, and you see an island way out on the horizon. As the boat moves, can you really make out the movement of the island relative to the boat? It is VERY subtle.
zapproowsdower also what about object leaving the earth atmosphere are they ice crystal too you debunkers need to stop surfing the internet and trying to fool other in believing that all these moving space object are just ice crystal i am sorry to tell you that all of us aren't idiots sometimes if it looks like a duck and quack like a duck well it might just be a duck
we if nothing else it show that something is going on and nothing is being said, it just over look. So what we can see these tapes, try to get to the truth and everything will be a empty search, until the truth show it self to you.
I can't believe this footage is still doing the rounds.I am an avid believer in ET life and first saw this over 10 years ago.The full footage shows the shuttle making a number of small manouvres.The 'flash' you see is the small shuttle booster jet igniting and the objects that appear to move are ice clumps,close to the shuttle,moving about as the jet thrust comes into contact with them.You will notice multiple objects all moving in the same direction.
if that would be the case, then the earth horizon should change a little to, and it does not. this theory was shown on discovery, and holds no ground. the flash is not the fireing of the boosters, this simply does not explain the streak of light going from earth into space. (ice clumps close by are not able to come from behind the horizon of the admosphere of earth. the object clearly comes from behing earth, and thus can not be close by ice cristals.
In a was i hope the nonbelievers go fuck them self's with god or moses or what ever the fuck that guy is named jebus.anyway I think the U.S shouldent keep it away but it think that should u no.I think the wold should have a vote on the hole prospect and decide if they wont the fack's or if they wont to love a childes dream wold of piece and cancer free.believe it or not alien's could have solved cancer 50 after they were probably bored.behold there intelligence
Alien - I have seen a obect that was not a falling star or a satellite. I don't understand or know what it was? This 'ufo' changed direction and travelled fast. Two friends were with me when this happened and also saw this 'whatever' it was. When we tell other friends + family we are laughed at. I know what i saw.
I cant wait for the day we have official contact with aliens. For all you know, our local alien neighbours could be humans too!!..
When that day comes, and it will. Forget about all our histroy so far. Alien contact will be the defining day of human history.. The day we burst out of our little bubble, and take a dip in the vast pond of the universe...
there would be shock for people if the reality of an ET presence here was made public, but the ability to integrate change is on of humanity's better characteristics. i agree that we might have a few out there weeks while people got their heads around the idea that the universe is utterly filled with life, and that a lot of other species are on Earth, but most people believe something is out there already. the "couldn't handle it" line is just an excuse to hide vacuum energy that ET craft use.
what are the other objects that all appear to be drifting towards the planet's surface? i see a number of other objects that appear to react to the weapon, i.e. i guess they are other ships, but the drifting objects don't react.
I think that is the constant rain of debris from space whether it be natural or man made. It burns up in the atmosphere and that is why it is showing up in the infra-red camera's video.
I always get a laugh when people refuse to use common sense when they see a vid like this...they inevitably say "well you can't say for sure what it is...". Please...we definitely know what it's not, and always remember that the simplest answer is usually the right one...simply put it was an "object" that was travelling in space at a high rate of speed that abruptly changed course when something shot at it from the surface. Simple. That's what it looked like to me. Denial doesn't change it.
I don´t mean to be captious about this however I believe all possible explanations for a phenomenon of this kind should be presented. The user femr2 was kind enough to show me why what I thought to be an illusion, due to the manner the video was organized, actually not wasn´t. By google this title one of the first thing I come across is this: debunkerDOTcom - texts sts48_ufo
It's funny how people forget that UFO means Unidentified Flying Object, so, if you don't know what it is and if it is flying then it is a UFO. UFO does not mean little green men in their space ships.
actually, based on this video, one can be fairly certain that something changed direction in low earth orbit, but what it is (how big) and distance/speed is not so easy. Either it is a piece of ice close up and slow or it is the big mothership they warned us about in that important documentary Independance day.
Jets don't work in no atmosphere. Small rocket can help them change course but not at the speeds shown here. They are only capable of nudging the craft. Thats why the 2 satellites collided a week ago or so.
I understand that logic can be difficult for some, so here's a step-by-step explanation...
"I can't tell if it is a UFO" -> UFO = Unidentified Flying Object -> "I can't tell if it is an Unidentified Flying Object" -> "I can't tell if I have identified that flying object" -> "I don't know whether I know what the object is"
There is several objects if interest, also are like the object in question. GREAT!!! I have seen this in several different angles, this is the best one.
If the video is stopped at 0:03 it possible to see that the highlighted object (which is highlighted at 0:04) is not behind the horizon of the Earth. It is there already, below the horizon line. It couldn't be behind.
"If the video is stopped at 0:03 it possible to see that the highlighted object (which is highlighted at 0:04) is not behind the horizon of the Earth. It is there already, below the horizon line. It couldn't be behind. "
The area you are referring to is actually the layer of atmosphere around the Earth. The horizon is the innermost band of the curve.
Yes. In fact the statement depends on the definition of horizon. Let me see if I can ratify my argument. If it is not clearly defined in this video where the Earth surface horizon line is, one can´t state the object in question comes from behind it. Note that in 0:03 the object was there and in 0:02 the zoom of the video is not sufficient to determine its position. As far as this video shows the object was there already at 0:03...
"If the video is stopped at 0:03 it possible to see that the highlighted object (which is highlighted at 0:04) is not behind the horizon of the Earth. It is there already, below the horizon line. It couldn't be behind. "
The area you are referring to is actually the layer of atmosphere around the Earth. The horizon is the innermost band of the curve.
The horizon of the Earth can be confirmed towards the end of the video by looking at where the stars trace paths disappear behind it.
"Note that in 0:03 the object was there and in 0:02 the zoom of the video is not sufficient to determine its position. As far as this video shows the object was there already at 0:03..."
Either way one cannot state the object comes from behind the Earth based on the video. :p
Watch the video from 0:34. The zoomed view is reset from the beginning enabling you to see the detail you are questioning. I fail to see why you are now including immature 'tongue out' smileys.
Indeed. I can see it now. I haven´t considered what is displayed from 0:36 to the end. At 0:36 the object wasnt present, at 0:37 it is in the area which corresponds to the atmosphere. Therefore one must conclude it come from behind the Earth. The way in which the video was organized was misleading to me!
About the immature 'tongue out' smiley, this :p . It has the objective to explicitate an irony which is the pointless nature of our discussion.
I wasnt paying attention to a specific detail. My point is that in cases like this we can only prove things by making assumptions which are themselves highly questionable. For instance I was questioning the origin of a particular object assuming that this object was distant from the camera. Can one prove beyond any shadow of doubt it actually was? As I understand to this day this is being debated.
Thats way I sustain: based on this video alone one cannot prove or disprove anything.
For the object in question it is a matter of noting it's behaviour and narrowing down what it could be. If you want to assume an ice particle to begin with, then the next step is to explain it's behaviour and answer the obvious questions:
1) Why is it not visible until it emerges from the location of the horizon
One should contrast these observations with those from actual experiments intended to replicate the phenomenon. This is a case when pure speculation is unfruitful.
why do nasa continously show these grainy black and white images and present them as what there actually recording. they must have way better technology to record what happens infra red etc cameras too and yet they show us the worst possible recording which leads to confusion and misdirection
with the movement & the speed of this object anyone can see its not from this planet,no way can anyone explain that its debris to me or anyone else for that matter,so why do they try & cover these things up.............what are they hiding?
the debunk goes like this: the object in question is extremely tiny, and very close to the camera, flash of light is a rocket thrust from the ship operating the camera, causing the object to instantly be propelled.
I am a skeptic, pure and simple. UFO videos have always been the easiest and cheapest ways to gather ratings and subscriptions.
Having said that, this and other videos are giving the UFO phenomena the credibility it deserves. The US government is hiding information about advanced technology of unknown origin, even the professional skeptic doesn't refute this.
On his 1975 campaign, Carter promised the American people, as president, he would expose the UFO controversy once and for all.
Once Carter was President, he ordered, the then CIA director George Bush Sr., under a presidential directive to expose the files pertaining to the ANY UFO findings. Bush replied and said at this briefing, "neither as President nor as Commander-in-Chief did he have a "need to know." "
Now you could say, that this was an attempt to fool a cold war enemy but this simply doesn't match the evidence that stacks against it.
I wonder what the "flash" could be. Maybe it's some kind of a blinker on the station? I know the flash couldn't be seen because of the vacuum, but there is a lot of spacedust as you can see in the video, what do you think? Or maybe the flash is a reflection of the sunlight against the ship's hull?
Well, what I mean is, for example: If you turn on a flash light on in space - you won't see the ray, because it doesn't have anything to reflect from, but if there is some dust - the particles would light up and the ray would be seen. That's why I said that because of the vacuum the flash would normally be not seen.
0:18 near bottom right one of them clearly changes direction as it enters the view.
galaxything 3 months ago
Debunkers explanations are even more ridicules than just saying they are e.t.'s in space ships!
galaxything 3 months ago
These might be ours.
johnmoreland 1 year ago
You're a bad intentioned agent of desinfo (or an ignorant), like all that youtubers which post nasa stuff. The object that seems to appear from behind the horizon doesn't come from behind the earth. It comes from below, but begins to light up just from the line of the horizon, upwards, so it looks to get out from behind it. The trails are just infrarred artifacts, due to the T of the objects. What are those bodies which react to strange flashes?. Maybe particles which react to wave of light.
Chiofvi79 1 year ago
@Chiofvi79 I don't know what that was but it was not infrared artifacts reacting to things like light. If it was it would have a consistent trajectory of speed and direction.
M3TurboE46 1 year ago
are the other moving objects space junk?
fipfapfallywap 1 year ago
The object that appears at the bottom-center of the screen 0:17 moves at the same time as the highlighted object. This is the also the case for a few other objects. Either we are watching multiple UFOs or there is some force moving these objects. People often get very exited about this subject and strongly believe what they see. This causes them to look over crucial aspects like the one i have pointed out.
KenConLock 1 year ago
@KenConLock You are correct. there are sever objects, (six that I can count) that seem to "bounce" into a direction away from earth. these are also the only objects on the screen that move away from the earth. The object on the far left is questionable however, because you never see it "bounce."
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Cfrogboy91 2 years ago
very clever the way you put it togever friend. i like it!! we see it from another perspective , nice work bro
BloodbrotherUK 2 years ago
Watch any of the particles and you will see some change in velocity at the same time as the circled object changes velocity, and in the same direction as well. In some particles the change in velocity appears to be much greater than others. The simplest explanation: The space ship which is filming this has changed its velocity, and parallax makes this effect much more apparent on particles which are closer to the camera. The circled object is very close to the camera.
Aerosteon 2 years ago
I believe UFO's exist, but all I see here are some space particles that change direction when the shuttle does a burn. You can clearly see the flash of light, and many of them changing direction. If it were just ONE changing direction would be special.
chico280 2 years ago
I can see how people can think this is the booster.... the only thing that doesnt make sense, is that the frame of reference doesnt chnage at all after the booster has fired. If it really was a booster, the the angle of the horizon would have to change too, but it remains static.....
Im not saying that this a UFO because I agree this isnt conclusive proof, but I dont believe the shuttle booster theory that NASA used to explain this away...
bardistass 2 years ago
Notice how all those things change direction at the same time, and how many there are. Also watch closely at the beginning, it doesn't originate from behind the planet at all.
To all who read this: Think it through.
Cfrogboy91 2 years ago
Are you saying it is originating from within the planet? Are you referring to Nassim Haramein's theory in which he claims that planets and even the sun is hollow inside with the black whole/ white whole concept of allowing rapid travel between distant places in the galaxy?
Quinctius 2 years ago
No. it's fake. They're like water droplets. Which is why they appear to be in front of the background instead of in it.
Cfrogboy91 2 years ago
@Cfrogboy91 No your mind is fake, how stupid the local idiots in the gullible public are, these aren't no ice particles or space debris that's fucking NONSENSE.
No object bound in a gravitational field can make sharp angle turns or accelerate unless it have internal energy to due work against the g field by thrust.
The object that appear from nowhere stops, u can't stop in a gravitational field unless you can cancel the g field, this can only be accomplish with a anti-gravitational mechanism.
WinduChi6 2 years ago
They're clinging to the window. Ice or water on the window. Ship moves, particles move.
Cfrogboy91 2 years ago
@Cfrogboy91 These are not on the window my YT friend Alienscientist just edited the original video to show the paths taken by the objects.
You have misinterpreted the footage!
WinduChi6 2 years ago
No, even without the paths it's still water droplets. Why do the water droplets have to leave trails to be droplets. you fail.
Cfrogboy91 2 years ago
@Cfrogboy91 NO, YOU FAIL!
You can't have water droplets forming in the vacuum of space, it will either freeze to the hardness of steel or boil away, depending if the sun is visible or not.
You're just wrong completely!
WinduChi6 2 years ago
how about on the inside, not in the vacuum.
Cfrogboy91 2 years ago
@Cfrogboy91 Yes inside depending on the humidity level.
But this is just a edited video of STS-48 space shuttle mission, search STS-48 on youtube to find the original unedited footage. ;-)
WinduChi6 2 years ago
watched it lol.
Cfrogboy91 2 years ago
Actually if you look closely there are in fact two points of light that react to the flash..... the obvious one and one comming from the right going to the left then it changes direction
outofbubblegum 2 years ago
I take that last comment back actually there are three points that move at the same time
outofbubblegum 2 years ago
are the tails added just so you can see the paths?
BryansU2B 2 years ago
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These are droplets of water on the inside of the portal of the shuttle. Condensation droplets moving in -0- gravity on the glass by air moving inside of the shuttle compartment.
baxtar1963 2 years ago
I used to think this video was UFO footage until i saw a video that showed the entire uncropped version... Im sure you all noticed the flash before the object/particle flew away. That flash was the booster from the shuttle.
Seigu007 2 years ago
I don't understand this? Why is nasa giving away this vdeos, full-knowing htat there are orbs on it?
It seems to easy now does it?
Quinctius 2 years ago
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The video has "been" out and into the public. Nothing NASA can do about it but do damage control. And they don't really care that much. There are so many UFOs in their shuttle videos, they don't even try using their favorite debunker, James Oberg, anymore. They just say "Ice crystals" and couldn't care less if we don't like it.
Cootabux 2 years ago
Yes I agree NASA knows about the UFO's! They must. How in the world could everyone in the world except us few be so dumb to not notice all the UFO's they are very clear in this video.
Cfrogboy91 2 years ago
Lets assess what is visible. I see the blue outline circle change direction rapidly. I observe the object travelling on a curved trajectory fade out of view. If you think otherwise, then you are falling prey to a psychological visual effect. Ask yourself what happens to the objects trail when it changes direction? Does it just stop creating one? I am more than happy to accept "proof" when I see it, but this ain't it. AS, I love your work, but surely you are better than this.
findingpedro 2 years ago
Also, the object in question is clearly not originating from the other side of the planet. At the beginning of the video, it appears in front of the planet. There is however another fast moving object which doesn't follow a purely curved trajectory. @19.5secs a fast moving object enters frame from bottom right. It begins at a shallow angle at the bottom of the frame, but then swoops upwards.
findingpedro 2 years ago
How much does NASA pay you?
Cfrogboy91 2 years ago
Whatever was fired at it was not very accurate. If indeed this object was as far away as we think then the 'fired' projectile missed by a VERY long way. The 'fired' projectile doesn't even intersect with where the object changes course. It's way off.
If it is indeed some earth government weapon designed to deter bad aliens then I hope they have improved the accuracy quite a bit.
CIMALT 2 years ago
No one really who stands for the official, the established AND WELL FUNDED could talk about the truth because the fundamentals on which they thrive upon would simply collapse. This includes not just science and technology, it largely includes economics, politics and religion. What would really happen if the same percentage of today's people who believe that Truth comes from Authority, change their belief to the opposite? CHAOS. Another consequence would be doubting the current econ. systems.
MaxBullshit 2 years ago 2
Yes you're right. I assume you, like me, took physics in high school. It made zero sense right? Yet again proof. THERE IS NO WAY that this is not some sort of alien/government/spy airborne craft, and it is probably sent to bring us to our DOOM. Maybe if the GOV. let us study ECON, politics, religion or REAL PHYSICS in schools then we would be INFORMED instead of SHEEP being lead to a massive government SLAUGHTER.
Cfrogboy91 2 years ago
@Cfrogboy91 all i understood from you was "sheep fear fear" .. man lay off the pills and get back to your world of warcraft.
Biggs2142 2 years ago
I love people trying to debunk these videos. Space junk with thrusters =) . And the fact that it changes course milliseconds after the flash?. Its intelligent space junk that doesnt want to die =) . Well we will see in couple of years whos right i guess.
Sanyogo 2 years ago 9
I love the bullshit answers that NASA come up with. Hey NASA here is a question for you, and the theory of probability might lend you an honest answer. How many times can somebody lie before they're caught? Here's a hint, nobody believes you anymore! Hey here's a novel idea. You like to explore right?how's bout exploring the truth!
Aquariansevenone 2 years ago 4
what are you morons talking about. look how many things are flying there. !!!! i was liek g-d--damn!!! theres A LOT OF THEM!@!!
exploringtv 2 years ago
at 20 sec the whole sky lite up.. just at the same time the object changes direction.
what a coincidence..
efekten 2 years ago
wtf with the subliminal messages/frames?
heratioalundi 2 years ago
yeah..i saw them too...but couldn't stopped them to read it..thus counter-reacting to them
ihavecojones 2 years ago
Hover your mouse over the video and they pop up. you can pause the video and hover over it to read them. If you saw them flicker its probably because you accidentally hovered over the video
AlexanderKeiths17 2 years ago
could be a colision with space junk
nitschke22 2 years ago
Nobody has the answer to this period! Pure speculation,and untested theory.
sleepingowl1 2 years ago
I cant see it being ice on the window, at 24 seconds 2 peices would collide if they were on the window
bucks696969 2 years ago
If the object was a meteorite of some kind could the flash be an explosion of a chemical substance reacting to the sun's radiation?
Nephrec 2 years ago
ok, watched this video for the 400th time and still see no point of origin for a potential ice particle..it really does seem to come in frame at the horizon..which leads me closer to believe its a proper anomoly. still not prepared to say anything definitive, but certainly remarkable.
GoldieTalon 2 years ago
Another factor to be aware of is that it's trajectory is curved before the 'flash'. For an object in space to exhibit a curved trajectory requires a constant force to be acting upon it. If the object does NOT emerge from behind the horizon and travel 'in orbit', which explains the curved trajectory very precisely....then what force is acting upon the object ? (Note the object increases in 'size' along the trajectory, implying it is getting closer to the camera)
femr2 2 years ago
love this video, but, could these lines simply be ice melting on the window they are looking out?
seems they all move wonky after a very bright flash of light (some sort of thrust from the ship)...which could make most of the drips running down the window change course.
of course, the problem with this theory is the whole no grav thing, so would a ice particle run down, or up in any direction?
just trying to understand all possibilities.
pity theres nothing to compare the size to. 1"-1K
GoldieTalon 2 years ago 2
This could indeed be melting ice particles. The NASA STS-75 Video (search here) is much weirder, they had a camera that covered the ultraviolet spectrum and all kind of strange sperm like things swam into view.
GreyZone7 2 years ago
I would say out of all the nasa films, and most of the terrestrial pictures and videos, the tether video you mentioned is one of the most remarkable...there is no rational explanation of it beyond nasa hoaxed it...or there is a really large energy based...thing up there
like a mile + in size as easily compared.
its that video, and a few others, that make the most profound proof that thiese anomolies are either not studied properly if at all, or being covered up...take your pick.
GoldieTalon 2 years ago
"could these lines simply be ice melting on the window"
The lines are the result of mixing a time-lapse view with the footage, simply to make it easier to see the relative movements.
femr2 2 years ago
fair enough.
frankly, this video just confuses the f outta me, which I suppose is the point
GoldieTalon 2 years ago
What is confusing ? It's not intended to confuse at all.
Am happy to explain features in detail if you are interested.
femr2 2 years ago
The other objects don't exhibit anything truly remarkable, at least not that I have seen. Again, these are my views and I could be wrong. In fact I want to be proven wrong.
I've gotten into huge arguments over other STS videos, and frankly I think I embarrassed myself with a lack of optical knowledge. Logic is only as good as the thoroughness of the information it is analyzing.
Cheers
zapproowsdower 2 years ago
Lens effect?
rbolo29 2 years ago
i'm trying to play devil's advocate here. The object ALMOST comes from behind the horizon... but it seems to actually appear a small yet distinct distance below the horizon.
Could it be a small near-field object that drifts into the light, at a point angularly similar with the earth's horizon? Then, when the blast of light comes, it could explain the sudden rapid acceleration.
Prove me wrong. :)
zapproowsdower 2 years ago
Hey zapproowsdower. You'll never convince the diehards, but yes it does look like they are all near field objects (ice).
The one they singled out and circled doesn't come from behind the horizon as they say, it can clearly be seen between the earth and the camera when first seen.
When the flash appears quite a few of the particles on similar trajectories to the one circled also change their trajectories. Look towards the bottom of the screen. I counted 5 changes without trying too hard.
SourceBottle 2 years ago
ok the horizon didn't change but your saying that Nasa STS change its movement without changing angle of view first of all that's impossible you cant a direction without your camera angle changing so unless your telling others to be an idiot please try to make sense be for commenting by the way all other moving object in question change direction during the flash from below the surface of earth and neither did the camera angle or horizon changed (Proven wrong)
daymeion24 2 years ago
If my objective analysis offends you, that is your problem. I believe in UFOs, I have seen two first-hand.
I see what you're saying, if the flash of light is indeed a rocket thrust, then the camera's angle should change. You're right. But how much? We're talking many, many miles of distance here.
Imagine you're on a boat, and you see an island way out on the horizon. As the boat moves, can you really make out the movement of the island relative to the boat? It is VERY subtle.
zapproowsdower 2 years ago
I understand your point as well and i have personally seen two ufo with my girl friend at the time but as i said your point is well taken
daymeion24 2 years ago
zapproowsdower also what about object leaving the earth atmosphere are they ice crystal too you debunkers need to stop surfing the internet and trying to fool other in believing that all these moving space object are just ice crystal i am sorry to tell you that all of us aren't idiots sometimes if it looks like a duck and quack like a duck well it might just be a duck
daymeion24 2 years ago
we if nothing else it show that something is going on and nothing is being said, it just over look. So what we can see these tapes, try to get to the truth and everything will be a empty search, until the truth show it self to you.
hitandrun1510 2 years ago
These object are based on the Searl effect
Hansolo60 2 years ago
I can't believe this footage is still doing the rounds.I am an avid believer in ET life and first saw this over 10 years ago.The full footage shows the shuttle making a number of small manouvres.The 'flash' you see is the small shuttle booster jet igniting and the objects that appear to move are ice clumps,close to the shuttle,moving about as the jet thrust comes into contact with them.You will notice multiple objects all moving in the same direction.
Allanscot 2 years ago
if that would be the case, then the earth horizon should change a little to, and it does not. this theory was shown on discovery, and holds no ground. the flash is not the fireing of the boosters, this simply does not explain the streak of light going from earth into space. (ice clumps close by are not able to come from behind the horizon of the admosphere of earth. the object clearly comes from behing earth, and thus can not be close by ice cristals.
dutchtruthseeker 2 years ago 2
So this is actually for real?
TEARDUCTER 2 years ago
*way
cobolt13 2 years ago
In a was i hope the nonbelievers go fuck them self's with god or moses or what ever the fuck that guy is named jebus.anyway I think the U.S shouldent keep it away but it think that should u no.I think the wold should have a vote on the hole prospect and decide if they wont the fack's or if they wont to love a childes dream wold of piece and cancer free.believe it or not alien's could have solved cancer 50 after they were probably bored.behold there intelligence
cobolt13 2 years ago
Looks like the object is in an evasive manuver from the threat of a shooting or flying star coming from the left of screen very fast.
sleepingowl1 2 years ago
Alien - I have seen a obect that was not a falling star or a satellite. I don't understand or know what it was? This 'ufo' changed direction and travelled fast. Two friends were with me when this happened and also saw this 'whatever' it was. When we tell other friends + family we are laughed at. I know what i saw.
philby247 2 years ago
I saw something like this years ago in '92.
What looked like a star started moving then shot off in a different direction before fading away.
magnetmanca 2 years ago
I cant wait for the day we have official contact with aliens. For all you know, our local alien neighbours could be humans too!!..
When that day comes, and it will. Forget about all our histroy so far. Alien contact will be the defining day of human history.. The day we burst out of our little bubble, and take a dip in the vast pond of the universe...
d3llboy 2 years ago 2
The US Government has already had alien contact...
They decided not to tell us, because most people couldn't handle the truth...
AlienScientist 2 years ago 2
I think the truth goes even deeper down the rabbit hole.
I imagine humans and aliens are part of something much "bigger" more profound than can possibly be handled or even believed by the masses.
I can imagine if people were told / shown the truth they would react in a similar fashion as Neo did when he found out the truth.
(Neo, shortly after his "awakening", freaks out, collapses and vomits.)
We are in a contrived matrix of conscious thought.
You are merely an idea, a role to be played.
batfly 2 years ago
there would be shock for people if the reality of an ET presence here was made public, but the ability to integrate change is on of humanity's better characteristics. i agree that we might have a few out there weeks while people got their heads around the idea that the universe is utterly filled with life, and that a lot of other species are on Earth, but most people believe something is out there already. the "couldn't handle it" line is just an excuse to hide vacuum energy that ET craft use.
uranian23 2 years ago
How do you know that? Do you have anything that can backup those statements?
bwones 2 years ago
@AlienScientist
oh I think they could. I know I'd be happy and excited!
The question is will they tell us "they are hostile" or "friendly" This two words will decide how the whole humanity will react
and to to tell us " they are hostile" enough people need to be brainwashed first to believe it. So we ca go to war.
BarackBananaChannel 1 year ago
@AlienScientist the government are aliens themself keeping the divine race and collective power of mankind in control.
kevinlmanon 9 months ago
What did the text say? It flashes very quickly before I had a chance to understand it.
nvm, i played around with the video and finally read it.
worldsocialismdotorg 2 years ago
aliens suck
yugiohkaibarules 2 years ago
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uranian23 2 years ago
stunning footage again AS.
what are the other objects that all appear to be drifting towards the planet's surface? i see a number of other objects that appear to react to the weapon, i.e. i guess they are other ships, but the drifting objects don't react.
uranian23 2 years ago
I think that is the constant rain of debris from space whether it be natural or man made. It burns up in the atmosphere and that is why it is showing up in the infra-red camera's video.
mk23666 2 years ago
I always get a laugh when people refuse to use common sense when they see a vid like this...they inevitably say "well you can't say for sure what it is...". Please...we definitely know what it's not, and always remember that the simplest answer is usually the right one...simply put it was an "object" that was travelling in space at a high rate of speed that abruptly changed course when something shot at it from the surface. Simple. That's what it looked like to me. Denial doesn't change it.
000deadcalm000 2 years ago 5
Well said! :)
lillemakken 2 years ago
Nice clear footage, thanks for the post.
DABOXASH 2 years ago
great.
scorpiusaries 2 years ago
I don´t mean to be captious about this however I believe all possible explanations for a phenomenon of this kind should be presented. The user femr2 was kind enough to show me why what I thought to be an illusion, due to the manner the video was organized, actually not wasn´t. By google this title one of the first thing I come across is this: debunkerDOTcom - texts sts48_ufo
prokofiev678 2 years ago
vgl. org/webfiles/STS-48/flash. pdf
vgl. org/webfiles/STS-48/trajectories/article. htm
Grabbed these from the full version of this vid in the response section, or here:
watch?v=ggMA4kR7g3U
femr2 2 years ago
Thank you!
prokofiev678 2 years ago
It's funny how people forget that UFO means Unidentified Flying Object, so, if you don't know what it is and if it is flying then it is a UFO. UFO does not mean little green men in their space ships.
LukaszWiklendt 2 years ago 5
This is one of the better UFO vids ive seen.
tacktitioner 2 years ago
actually, based on this video, one can be fairly certain that something changed direction in low earth orbit, but what it is (how big) and distance/speed is not so easy. Either it is a piece of ice close up and slow or it is the big mothership they warned us about in that important documentary Independance day.
4Dmetricology 2 years ago
Thats so not debris.
yinzx7 2 years ago
Very good Video and very Informative keep up the good work.
UFOHunter82 2 years ago
scully!!!
alantmac 2 years ago
you people do know that satellite can change course with jet propulsion right?
LookMaNoBrains 2 years ago
Jets don't work in no atmosphere. Small rocket can help them change course but not at the speeds shown here. They are only capable of nudging the craft. Thats why the 2 satellites collided a week ago or so.
TJMonster51 2 years ago 3
nasa is FAIL
kronweed 2 years ago 2
If you can't tell whether it is a UFO it means that you do not know if you know what the object is.
LukaszWiklendt 2 years ago
I'm sorry, is that an oxymoron or a double negative or both?
Gosh this is fun, say it agian, say it agian.
mattghtpa 2 years ago
I understand that logic can be difficult for some, so here's a step-by-step explanation...
"I can't tell if it is a UFO" -> UFO = Unidentified Flying Object -> "I can't tell if it is an Unidentified Flying Object" -> "I can't tell if I have identified that flying object" -> "I don't know whether I know what the object is"
LukaszWiklendt 2 years ago
Yes I did notice logic was diffecult for some.
mattghtpa 2 years ago
Your steps made no sense. It was gibberish.
The object, untill identified, is a UFO.
mattghtpa 2 years ago
Ice Particles
vulcanus30 2 years ago
I noticed the one at the bottom reacts as well when the flash comes on
MetalMatt2510 2 years ago
lol
Burnz2much 2 years ago
triz nipy
afroganja 2 years ago
That thing is really moving as well, whatever it was.
dannukesem 2 years ago
There is several objects if interest, also are like the object in question. GREAT!!! I have seen this in several different angles, this is the best one.
MINIBNRR 2 years ago
That's crazy! Awesome. Where do you get this footage?
Ashwatzi 2 years ago
its been around the internet for a couple of years now.
check out the "tether project" on youtube.
godlessmessiah 2 years ago
He doesn't tell, which leads me to be skeptical on the validity of this footage.
Superkornking 2 years ago
a large object moving at a slower rate of speed can be moved as such by a smaller object moving at a much faster rate of speed.... done:)
entheogentile 2 years ago
A small object colliding with a larger object at such a high rate of speed would produce extreme heat and would shatter upon impact..
AlienScientist 2 years ago
I guess you have noticed that more objects on screen have changed their direction at the same time as the pointed one.
Could there be some sort of connection?
kristijan12 2 years ago
these pictures could be anything......i mean for real...i can probably record my breakfast and make it look like this hahhaa
kajcsapapa 2 years ago
well.. guess what, you can't.
tetefather 2 years ago
Look like something was fired at it when it moved off.
MetalMatt2510 2 years ago
Good eye. Definitely looks like the shift in trajectory was in response to something being fired at it.
SavannahsRUs 2 years ago
James Bond 007 stuff
PiezPiedPy 2 years ago
that was in reply to davyro66.
zapproowsdower 2 years ago
One observation:
If the video is stopped at 0:03 it possible to see that the highlighted object (which is highlighted at 0:04) is not behind the horizon of the Earth. It is there already, below the horizon line. It couldn't be behind.
prokofiev678 2 years ago
"If the video is stopped at 0:03 it possible to see that the highlighted object (which is highlighted at 0:04) is not behind the horizon of the Earth. It is there already, below the horizon line. It couldn't be behind. "
The area you are referring to is actually the layer of atmosphere around the Earth. The horizon is the innermost band of the curve.
femr2 2 years ago
Yes. In fact the statement depends on the definition of horizon. Let me see if I can ratify my argument. If it is not clearly defined in this video where the Earth surface horizon line is, one can´t state the object in question comes from behind it. Note that in 0:03 the object was there and in 0:02 the zoom of the video is not sufficient to determine its position. As far as this video shows the object was there already at 0:03...
prokofiev678 2 years ago
At that point it is in front of Earth or above its surface horizon and definitely below the atmosphere line horizon.
prokofiev678 2 years ago
"If the video is stopped at 0:03 it possible to see that the highlighted object (which is highlighted at 0:04) is not behind the horizon of the Earth. It is there already, below the horizon line. It couldn't be behind. "
The area you are referring to is actually the layer of atmosphere around the Earth. The horizon is the innermost band of the curve.
The horizon of the Earth can be confirmed towards the end of the video by looking at where the stars trace paths disappear behind it.
femr2 2 years ago
Yes. Ideed, but...
"Note that in 0:03 the object was there and in 0:02 the zoom of the video is not sufficient to determine its position. As far as this video shows the object was there already at 0:03..."
Either way one cannot state the object comes from behind the Earth based on the video. :p
prokofiev678 2 years ago
Watch the video from 0:34. The zoomed view is reset from the beginning enabling you to see the detail you are questioning. I fail to see why you are now including immature 'tongue out' smileys.
femr2 2 years ago
Indeed. I can see it now. I haven´t considered what is displayed from 0:36 to the end. At 0:36 the object wasnt present, at 0:37 it is in the area which corresponds to the atmosphere. Therefore one must conclude it come from behind the Earth. The way in which the video was organized was misleading to me!
About the immature 'tongue out' smiley, this :p . It has the objective to explicitate an irony which is the pointless nature of our discussion.
prokofiev678 2 years ago
You see, one cannot prove or disprove anything based on this video alone. Agree? ;-p. So what the hell we are discussing about?!
Don´t take this seriously! ;-)
prokofiev678 2 years ago
Yeh we can, it was proven you were not paying attention.
mattghtpa 2 years ago
I wasnt paying attention to a specific detail. My point is that in cases like this we can only prove things by making assumptions which are themselves highly questionable. For instance I was questioning the origin of a particular object assuming that this object was distant from the camera. Can one prove beyond any shadow of doubt it actually was? As I understand to this day this is being debated.
Thats way I sustain: based on this video alone one cannot prove or disprove anything.
prokofiev678 2 years ago
For the object in question it is a matter of noting it's behaviour and narrowing down what it could be. If you want to assume an ice particle to begin with, then the next step is to explain it's behaviour and answer the obvious questions:
1) Why is it not visible until it emerges from the location of the horizon
2) Why is it's initial trajectory curved
3) Why is it's subsequent trajectory linear
etc...
femr2 2 years ago
You read too much Immanuel Kant. Why do you disregard your senses? Objectivityiskey!!!
Objectivityiskey 2 years ago
lol i would have never understood that if im not in a philosophy class
AnJelllo9607 2 years ago
One should contrast these observations with those from actual experiments intended to replicate the phenomenon. This is a case when pure speculation is unfruitful.
prokofiev678 2 years ago
NASA cunt release color videos.
they're controlled by the global elite.
CamNM1991 2 years ago 2
why do nasa continously show these grainy black and white images and present them as what there actually recording. they must have way better technology to record what happens infra red etc cameras too and yet they show us the worst possible recording which leads to confusion and misdirection
malcybabes 2 years ago
with the movement & the speed of this object anyone can see its not from this planet,no way can anyone explain that its debris to me or anyone else for that matter,so why do they try & cover these things up.............what are they hiding?
davyro66 2 years ago
the debunk goes like this: the object in question is extremely tiny, and very close to the camera, flash of light is a rocket thrust from the ship operating the camera, causing the object to instantly be propelled.
of course, that doesn't explain THIS effect :P
zapproowsdower 2 years ago
N..erver..A..Str8...Answer......these assholes make it seem as if we the real human race are to stupid to find shit out !!!!! fuck em
ceez561 2 years ago
Although I do believe that some objects may be space debris the highlighted object of interest displayed characteristics of intelligent control.
At the distance the velocity would likely be in the 30 to 40g acceleration.
mattghtpa 2 years ago
The sudden change of direction baffles me.
hornetobiker 2 years ago 2
Either it's an "unmanned" probe, or they've got some sort of inertia nullifier on board that ship. If it IS a vessel, that is.
GmodPlusWoW 2 years ago
what are all the other things falling down towards the earth?
mustachexboy 2 years ago
hope for us all.
hornetobiker 2 years ago
"what are all the other things falling down towards the earth?"
Stars.
femr2 2 years ago
It did a really sharp turn.We come in peace.Please do not fear us.Peace, peace my brother (Y_]/\(Y)\/|_=\
focktony 2 years ago
I am a skeptic, pure and simple. UFO videos have always been the easiest and cheapest ways to gather ratings and subscriptions.
Having said that, this and other videos are giving the UFO phenomena the credibility it deserves. The US government is hiding information about advanced technology of unknown origin, even the professional skeptic doesn't refute this.
On his 1975 campaign, Carter promised the American people, as president, he would expose the UFO controversy once and for all.
Pleblian 2 years ago
(con't)
Once Carter was President, he ordered, the then CIA director George Bush Sr., under a presidential directive to expose the files pertaining to the ANY UFO findings. Bush replied and said at this briefing, "neither as President nor as Commander-in-Chief did he have a "need to know." "
Now you could say, that this was an attempt to fool a cold war enemy but this simply doesn't match the evidence that stacks against it.
Pleblian 2 years ago
I wonder what the "flash" could be. Maybe it's some kind of a blinker on the station? I know the flash couldn't be seen because of the vacuum, but there is a lot of spacedust as you can see in the video, what do you think? Or maybe the flash is a reflection of the sunlight against the ship's hull?
MrTwisT007 2 years ago
how could the flash not be seen because of the vacuum, how do you explain sunlight coming through space and reaching our eyes?
tammy713910 2 years ago
Well, what I mean is, for example: If you turn on a flash light on in space - you won't see the ray, because it doesn't have anything to reflect from, but if there is some dust - the particles would light up and the ray would be seen. That's why I said that because of the vacuum the flash would normally be not seen.
MrTwisT007 2 years ago
Those flashes down in the atmosphere at 0:03, 0:05, 0:07 Lightening or somthing pehaps a ufogun
Duckeieio 2 years ago
its a lighting storm on the earth they belive the ufo did take the energy from the lightning somehow
flobba123 2 years ago
Number One, take evasive manuevre!
Repomex01 2 years ago
LOL XD
right away Captain. LOL
Jink5 2 years ago
Aliens are people too:]
CosmicDramaQueen 2 years ago
good tiger sharp eye,thanks a lot Alien.5.
incroyableverite 2 years ago
whoa
mssnor 2 years ago 2
I'd have to agree this is one of the most convincing films i've seen :) thank you
outled 2 years ago 3
good video Alien!!
ricktbags 2 years ago
I have to admit, this and the NASA tether incident is hard to refute.
Pleblian 2 years ago 4
It changed its direction so fast...
Allexxx96 2 years ago
And nasa control would say
"We are currently experiencing a lot of ufo traffic at the moment"
Earthstudy 2 years ago 4
Personally, i would love to see that day ^^
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jongleeeee 2 years ago