True News 38: The Auto Bailout

[QuatFax]

See, I agree with you philosophically, but not historically. The fact of the matter is that unions, with the exception of those in the public sector, have not gotten any favors from the government. Yes, the government raised tariffs and gave subsidies, but that was largely at the behest of the corporations. Unions have been hemmed in by bans on secondary strikes, boycotts, closed shops, and sit-ins. Unions would be far more powerful in the free market.

[Kl0kw3rk]

There's a temptation to stipulate that a trade union could conceivably be non-coercive. But, I challenge you to point out any actual case in history.

[OHT53]

Elgreedo strikes again

[thunderpants10]

Truth

Feel the burn

[Panoculus]

Another point to add is that the "new slave owners" have to run a totalitarian regime to control their own workers. E.g. film censorship in Asia is unlike most other countries, even Monty Python's Life of Brian, and Meaning of Life are *banned*. So without wealthy nations' greed, millions of Asians wouldn't be brainwashed.

"Fess up" means - make an accurate estimate of how much you own that is made in Asia. That much sponsors religious totalitarianism in Asia.

[BRAINSTORM555]

yer dumeys dont wont to know its to much for them

to take it means all them think they know is bullshit.

and they dont like that

[spikeslawson]

A bit of an error I found, a 20% pay increase will increase the labor portion of the item being produced.

[stefbot]

I think you are quite right, thank you for the correction! :)

[ijust1]

@stefbot Not if you also include the labor in those industries associated with the auto industry directly!

Pay always goes to a person. When a company buys "steel", "fabric", etc, the money always goes to a person.

[errorspending]

Wow I can't take the comments on here... are people listening to anything you're saying? they must be listening to just a minute or two and then commenting and turning it off....great video btw. take over the state? are you kidding me? with what army? grabbing the state gun and forcing people in a different direction is no better, not to mention impossible...you'd be using that which you condemn...a total contradiction. the revolution has to be won gradually through education not violence.

[stratvic]

Strikes are violence.  To collectively leave permanently is one thing. To extort through threats, coercion, force, blackmail, and breaching contracts is a violence on the employer.

If you have a problem with your employer or your conditions fire your boss by finding another job or striking out on your own, perhaps in competition with your employer.

[RuddODragonFear]

No, strikes are not violence. Strikes CAN BECOME violent, but one thing is NOT the other.

[stratvic]

If you breach a contract that is a form of violence. If you damage property .. that is violence. Strikes are wilfully destructive ... that is where they derive their power. Unions use this violence to coerce employers into "agreements" they would not otherwise willingly enter because they are being forced to pay above market rates, thereby threatening the profitability, growth, and sustainability of the business.

[RuddODragonFear]

No, totally false. Breach of contract is not violence. Violence is the APPLICATION OF DESTRUCTIVE FORCE (as in F = M *a ) onto people or objects. Don't come here redefine basic words so you don't have to admit you were mistaken. I agree with your general philosophy but there is no need to twist meaning around in order to hold it.

[stratvic]

Commonly when someone breaches contract we sue for damages. Wilfully breaching a contract is willful damage. Willful damage to someone or their property is a FORM of violence.

If someone or a group of people wilfully breach employment contracts with the specific intent to inflict or threaten to damage their employing organisation for the purpose of coercing them into an unfavourable agreement, then that is extortion. Extortion being a product of threatened, implied, or applied violence.

[drewmandan]

Um, no. You missed the point of the video. Striking just for the sake of striking is perfectly fine. There's no contract being breached in a wage system; they're just not working. The problem is that the government steps in and says they can't be fired or replaced by the employer, or the employer goes to jail. That's the violence.

[stratvic]

If you are employed on a contract and are therefore expected to turn up for work in line with that contract, and then don't you are breaching that contract. If you breach the contract wilfully by striking you are wilfully damaging your employer to extort.

The government getting involved is an additional level of violence further incurred by the business.

[drewmandan]

Right. But you see, the government enforces the union by making it illegal to fire or replace the strikers, and that is backed up by violence. The employer who does that will go to jail. You see the problem yet?

[stratvic]

I agree that the government involvement is additional and cumulative violent assault on a business. The government that proclaims to protect people from violence, property, damage, and enforcing contracts, etc. wilfully compounds all three problems through adding their ability to inflict additional violence to assist the unions who are, in case of strikes for additional pay, the aggressor.

[HomelandTorture]

Unions helped fight for workers rights, not just wages and healthcare. Without them people would still be working 12 hour days, kids would be chained to machines and so on. Unions came about for a reason, not to say they are perfect, but its not all the unions fault. The main problem is that the wages in America are bad and that the modern car is hugely inefficient and they dont want to change it because it helps them and other sectors make money by making them inefficient.

[nathanjonessr]

You can judge a tree by its fruit... what is the fruit of the unions. Whatever good you think they've done, history has proven them bad fruit. Its like you're in the woods and took a crap and used some leafs of a vine nearby to do the "paperwork", everything was fine, did the job, cleaned up the mess, but later you noticed your crack started to itch... Whatever good that unions did, should have been done by the individuals, not the unions.

(unions are a lot worse than poison ivy though)

[HomelandTorture]

It's easy to say it should of been done by individuals, but it wouldnt of happened & if it had it would of taken probably 40 years and lots of more people dying. Rockerfeller & Carnegie sure didnt give a rats ass about their workers, read up on how many were even killed just for being on strike in the old days. Unions were the only way the poor working man could fight back against big companies that hired guys to rough them up and bully them to get back into work like little slaves.

[oldhacks]

the unions of old have zero to do with the corporate sell outs that run our unions today.

[stratvic]

Did he hire them at gun point? Or hold them in their employ at gunpoint?

If you look more closely you will find the gun in the unions hands and not the employers.

[HomelandTorture]

That may be the case nowdays, but I was referring to the past, only because you have to know why they came about to being with. Unions are not perfect, but they had a useful purpose one time.

[stratvic]

So you concede that unions have had their day and no longer serve any useful purpose?

[nathanjonessr]

they came into being exactly why stef said, they sold their rights, so that they did not have to take the risk of living freely. instead of using the adversity to rise up and realize their own worth and power, they wilted into a primordial soup of unions. now millions of able, smart, productive men get paid the same in a union as worthless men who produce nothing.

unions= collectivism

collectivism= slavery (evil)

a=b, b=c, then a=c

[drewmandan]

Wrong. Voluntary unions are just fine, and are an integral part of any modern society, stateless or not. What Stef was talking about, which most people seemed to have missed, is government enforcement of unreasonable laws that protect the unions from the risks of strike.

When Stef talks about violence, he is speaking literally, not figuratively. The government will LITERALLY arrest employers who fire union workers while on strike. Like, with guns and handcuffs. Actual violence.

[oldhacks]

take control over the state and you can abolish all of their rotten practices and institute a simple system of governance that makes sense. rather then just being chickenshit and running away from the state like a bunch of cowards.

[oldhacks]

its called Bartering. he's just trying to sell his book to impressionable kids that think he's spreading gospel. its all just anarcho-propaganda.

[Mastikator]

Are you a troll?

[jwiska]

troll it up

[chaseantarctica]

His books are all available for free.

So. . .no.

[steshaw71]

Stef said collectively ;)

[robfett]

I know. I just about shit my pants when he said we should do something collectively.

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH STEF?!? *cries*

[mishimasan]

That was awesome.

[chriswroads]

What would have happened if there were no union.

These companies would still be goners because no one is buying cars. And instead of receiving a living wage to do a job when things were good you would have been receiving walmart wages with no retirement. There are no bank unions and all they do is collect free money all day and there broke. why?

How can you blame a worker for trying to steal the scraps from the feast, at least they did something for there meal.

[erhnamdj]

It's funny. I read "The Auto Bailout" not as having to do with cars, but being about the auto(matic) bailout(s).

Same thing, really, though, isn't it?

[ieatcorm]

i did the same thing, and ditto on the similarity u noticed. the bailout was bound to happen

[metal87power]

Dear Steve, do you know Kevin Carson thoughts?

[oldhacks]

how come stef bot never talks about the achievements of democracy. He's really crafty in the way he frames his arguments but he cherry picks his issues to back up his claims. leaves out key components to give the illusion that he's absolutely correct in his assertions.

[chitchcott]

Democracy? Stef's covered it. watch?v=igbBItLemsM

Democracy is just like having two bullies make you run after them because they stole your candy; having the illusion of being in control of the government is just subjective.

[oldhacks]

why would the only thing people would want to accomplish by way of majority be to steal someone else's candy?

what if the minority is stealing candy from the majority? which is the case under our current system...

[jodark]

Selling for profit isn't stealing. No one made anyone buy cars from anybody.

[drewmandan]

That would have been true if the government never gave any money to car companies, which was stolen from the taxpayer and given to the union members.

[jodark]

I agree. I was responding to oldhacks2 comment, in which he implies that it is the rich "stealing" from the poor with regards to the car companies prior to the bailouts. However, the government giving them taxpayer money is essentially stealing, and even more so when they give them taxpayer money then give the property of the bond holders away to the Unions.

[oldhacks]

its only stealing because we didn't consent to it. If we had a national initiative in this country we could bail out who we like and let who we didn't like fail. we'd be in control of how our taxes are raised and how they're spent.

[junior00bacon00chee]

how does a national iniative make it not stealing? what if i dont want to be taxed?

[oldhacks]

because it will put us (we the people) in charge of how its collected (how little or how much) and how its spent.

you're just being childish now.

I dont waaaaaanna

[junior00bacon00chee]

hmmm. if money is taken from me without my expressed personal consent then that is stealing. how is that claim childish in any way?

"we the people" does not exist. all that exists are individuals, with individual preferences. people do not have the same desires or goals. for your system to work it must be forced onto everyone.

i favor a stateless society. one where people can pursue their own preferences without fear of persecution.

[oldhacks]

so you'd rather have 40,000,000 people die from lack of health care than just pay a small fee for living in a free country?

the problem isn't taxes/ the problem is how they're spent. and if you're problem is taxes then you should move somewhere else.

like Zimbabwe or some shit.

[oldhacks]

holy shit. now thats delusional. there is no we the people? so there is no AMerica? there is no EU? there is no Japan? there is no China? the people who inhabit these countries have NO COMMONALITIES with one another? is that really what you're saying? cmon nobody is that asinine.

[erhnamdj]

Could you give us some examples of these "achievements"?

In addition, could you give us some examples of democracies?

Also, what "key components" are you talking about?

[oldhacks]

there's only one example of it in all of human history and that's swizterland.

accomplishments. well how about the fact that the swiss are all Born Rich. and the fact that they've remained a pacifist nation while sitting on the border of where every major conflict has taken place.

key components are the fact that social security has saved millions of lives. as well as medicare. the problem isn't taxes. the problem is taxation without representation. as it always has been

[erhnamdj]

"a pacifist nation"

What an amazing thing to hear! Please, tell me more.

I would love to hear about these pacifist police officers who smile as the hapless Mr. Citizen explains that he will not pay his taxes, certain in the knowledge that the Free Market can much more efficiently handle whatever services the state runs.

Just how big are the smiles on the their faces as they nod and say: "Alright, don't guess I can force you to pay, but won't you reconsider?"

What currency they use?

[oldhacks]

the Swiss don't mind paying taxes because they are in direct control over how their taxes are spent. its common sense.

[drewmandan]

That's not true. If 51% vote to have a new tax put in place, 49% of the population has just been taxed without consent.

[oldhacks]

well that 49% can move to another country where they have even Less consent. brilliant strategy there. or they could move into a cave and deny the existence of humanity...

[drewmandan]

If you really believe that taxes are just, are you willing to collect them yourself? And arrest those who don't pay, yourself? Or do you just support violence and not practice it?

[DCLugi]

So they voluntarily pay tax. It's not an enforced law?

[drewmandan]

Wow...that's some pretty severe Orwellian double-think you got going on there. You might want to sit down for a minute and think about your life.

[DCLugi]

Must have replied to you and not oldhacks by error. I'll have my people think about my life and get back to me:)

[oldhacks]

hahaha!

[oldhacks]

yes they voluntarily pay their taxes because THEY ARE THE LAW. just stop talking and let that simmer in your brain for a moment. it'll click eventually.

[DCLugi]

Cool. So THEY can make a law to not pay. It's good to be the king.

[TSMPimpDaddyPain]

@oldhacks well hot damn, hacks. I didn't know you had trolled this video....I see you're still spreading your socialist propaganda hahah. Hope all is well man

[DennyMclain2008]

you cant see the forest for the trees. the answer is D. all of the above.

the unions were infiltrated by the same marxist that pushed nafta and 'free trade' and all the other attacks on American industry. drop your ego dude and wake the f up. this is a stealth war on america and the mainstream media is in on it. dont fall for the left/right paradigm. focusing on just the unions is like blaming oprah's weight issue on the ham.

[rmcdaniel423]

Re: big unions

My stepfather was a lifetime union worker in the steel industry. He was pissed about his employer Bethlehem steel going under and cutting his pension, blaming it on "lousy Jap steel". In that same discussion he bragged about the most lazy, wasteful, and greedy employee behaviors I have ever seen, and didn't see anything wrong. People like him have collectively destroyed entire industries and the families that depended on them. And yet remain blind to that fact.

[furyofbongos]

Yes, but I'm not so sure I'd blame your stepfather quite as much. He was born into this matrix and was taught that down was up from a very early age, like all of us. To say that "people like him have... destroyed... industries..." leaves out the instigators, those with the guns (government).

I would say that your stepfather was an innocent victim who was not privy to the kind of knowledge that stefbot is purveying.

Your stepfather, IMO, was taught to be blind, and "taught" exceptionally well.

[CheekyMonkey888]

Financial class, using a myriad of tactics, is blowing out the rest of the economy, will come back and swoop all up for pennies on the dollar, they've done it before (Pre WW1 Britain, excellent example) and they'll do it again. Stef your focus is too narrow, unions yes, but other reasons too.

[stefbot]

I'm not sure that I claimed it was the only reason, and I did only have about 10 minutes of course! :)

[freemarketeer67]

I love Stef's meandering on a rainy sunday morning

[newgtguy]

We have two choices in this country:

1. Live with honor and live free.

2. Live with limited liability and live in servitude.

Godspeed!

[JRCrowley]

John Elkann, vice-chairman and major shareholder of Fiat, is on the Bilderberg attendees list.

[dhushw]

I thought you were going to argue against unions in general for a little while. but yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you on this one.

[chardoc89]

interesting

[mju34]

While I agree with your basic premises here, this video seemed a bit disconnected, and a little meandering. I believe you could have made the same points more effectively in 4 or 5 minutes.

[newperve]

Meandering?  Stef? Never!

[Pellett29]

finally, someone actual blames the unions. Good job.

[TheJacolyte]

The blame doesn't rest entirely upon the unions. Were there a lack of corporate limitations and more so central government, there would be much more places to work, and the workers could simply go work somewhere else!

[joshv89]

The federal goverment...............and the Chinese will own your children, lol that bit made me laugh

[airbreather123]

I stopped watching cable 3 months ago, after 3 weeks did not miss it, started analyzing the news myself and investing accordingly, doubled my money....knowledge is indeed power, and this man has got knowledge

[cybersphere]

I hadn't considered this angle. Well argued as usual.

I'd like to get your take on the software industry. Is outsourcing/offshoring/stagnan­t wages enough of a reason not to study the subject?

[bigleady]

as someone in the IT sector I'd say no. If you are good you'll get the wage

[furyofbongos]

Keep looking for the gun. All governments do every one of of their deeds at the point of a gun. Even when there is voluntary interaction going on, there is always a government regulation involved causing a gun to be pointed at someone's head.

So, it can be a complex question, but I bet if you look hard enough you'll see how gov has made things worse. After all, can anything good *ever* come out of the initiation of violence?

[82816a]

cool wow

[oldhacks]

"save your children".

yes save your children from being able to see a doctor or getting an education, or having safe roads to travel on. yes likes be like the Iranians. anarchy knows best

[chaseantarctica]

lol wow you're way smart

[TheJacolyte]

"yes save your children from being able to see a doctor or getting an education, or having safe roads to travel on."

Nobody said you had to go without those things :)

[oldhacks]

i dont trust private corporations to provide these things for us in an adequate fashion

[onlywhenprovoked]

government... private corporations... what's the difference anymore?

[oldhacks]

government can work when the people are allowed to propose laws themselves.

[TheJacolyte]

"i dont trust private corporations to provide these things for us in an adequate fashion"

Private corporations are subject to what is called "Competition." I'm sure you've heard of it. Their reputations are at stake, and if they lose their reputation, they lose your trust, if they lose your trust, they lose their business.

On the other hand, the government has no competition. If they provide the worst service in the world, they will continue to operate.

[oldhacks]

competition isn't the prefect solution. the government has no competitino because you won't stand up to them. anarchists are deathly afraid of governance.

[TheJacolyte]

"competition isn't the prefect solution."

Indeed it is! It has ensured our survival for hundreds of thousands of years. I'm sure you've heard of evolution. But don't confuse free-market economics with social darwinism!

"the government has no competitino because you won't stand up to them."

My methods of standing up to them are a bit different. If I were to resist 100%, I would be imprisoned. I would be "made an example of" - and it really wouldn't further my cause.

[chaseantarctica]

"government can work when the people are allowed to propose laws themselves"

society only works when people respect one another's boundaries and stop trying to control others' lives.

"the government has no competitino because you won't stand up to them."

well, let's look at what happens when people "stand up" to government: they end up dead or in prison.

that is the only reason they don't have competition. hell, they don't even allow people to choose what currency to trade with.

[bigleady]

on what grounds?

[oldhacks]

we don't know what democracy really looks like. in Switzerland when the public wants something they vote on it. its as simple as that. they dont vote on people and then hope that the elcted does what they promised. They just vote on it themselves. the entire country is it's own house of representatives. Every man and woman is a delegate. freedom is participation in power.

[bigleady]

we know exactly what it looks like, groups of people instigating control and violence over each with the biggest winning :)

[oldhacks]

is that how Swizterland has stayed neutral in every mmajor conflict while sitting right smack dab in the middle of where every major conflict has started?

idiot.

[chaseantarctica]

lol @ ad hominem.

The way Switzerland stayed neutral in conflicts was by not having a reckless authoritarian in charge of the country's affairs. The same can not be said of our gov't and most present gov'ts internationally.

I don't see how this proves the legitimacy of forced collective decision making.

[chaseantarctica]

What's done in Switzerland is a referendum. The bigger point is that there are no decisions that have to be made collectively and forced upon those who don't agree. Voting serves only to further the goals of one faction over those of another.

"freedom is participation in power"

no. . . freedom is freedom FROM power. what's so difficult for people to understand about living their own lives?

[oldhacks]

it's Not a referendum. It's an Initiative. with referendums politicians Refer laws to the people. With initiatives the people themselves have a right to propose law. Huge difference in the outcomes of the two. It's important to know the difference.

[chaseantarctica]

No, at the federal level in Switzerland, a referendum is how citizens stop legislation being created by parliament. The point is that the parliament serves no purposes in the first place. It protects no one, and does not improve quality of life.

[oldhacks]

it was the parliament of Switzerland that ended their civil war and handed over all legislating powers to the people. so yes. the parliament served a very important role in creating the worlds first true democracy.

[chaseantarctica]

lol I'm not talking about Switzerland. I'm talking about all legislative bodies that claim authority over others.

They are not necessary, and certainly not conducive to peaceful societies.

[oldhacks]

All of Switzerland is one big legislative body. it'll click in your brain in a second. just think about it for a second before coming back at me with your pre-recorded responses.

[Baabaloux]

So everyone agree on everything all the time. Referendum is 100% agreeing on a subject? Are they a big borg collective?

[oldhacks]

nope. just 51%. a simple majority. otherwise you still have minority rule.

[Baabaloux]

I guess you don`t see the problem in this.

[i2aymond]

I vote oldhacks becomes an anarchist. All I need is one more vote to have a majority. What you didn't agree to this? Who gives a rats ass? This is a democracy and that means you will do whatever we tell you.

[oldhacks]

no one agrees with you. as always the only come back that anyone ever has when confronted with the prospect of democracy is a completely ludicrous notion that has absolutely no true merit.

come at me with something of substance next time.

[audiofeel1]

so, communism has won after all, maybe not russian communism, but chinese. hello, what's that? we've been sold to t/ communist chinese government as s..sl...slaves!

[audiofeel1]

white and black together in harmony...as slaves.

[oldhacks]

real classy. blame the little guy.

the government black mailed the unions.

[chaseantarctica]

You clearly didn't watch the full video and/or pay attention.

[chaseantarctica]

please explain

[TruthSurge]

This is the most educational vid I've seen yet. He's totally right! Stef, you're totally correct! My gawd... The country is in this shape because of their greed. 100% correct. 6 stars.  faved. Memorized. Emailed to my congressman. HAHAHAH dude... they went for the gun! bastards. but guess what? Once they actually kill the goose laying the golden eggs.... there will be no more gun and no more U.S. probably.

[chaseantarctica]

trollfail

[TruthSurge]

yes, you are.

[genie0390]

i just can't wait to buy and drive a Fiat/ Chrysler!!

LMFAO

[Stargazer5781]

As always, you're the man Stef

[JesusSavesAtCitibank]

Can't take this irrational and delusional mouthpiece of the wealthy anymore. Too much one-sided rhetoric here for me to bother dedicating my time countering, and would not have an effect on his strict ideology no matter the valid points I may make. So I'll just reserve my anger and take leave (unsub). Do your own research and THINK for yourselves people.

[AshillaBeige]

GOD I love statheists.

[chaseantarctica]

"Too much one-sided rhetoric here for me to bother dedicating my time countering. . ."

lol Really? You had JUST enough time to write a driveling comment but no time to simply counter his points or demonstrate where his logic is misfounded? Really? Doubt it.

[TruthSurge]

Dude. Why not make a vid and show how he's wrong? I'd love to see it. But he's right. Gov made "laws" (the gun) so that it was illegal to compete! hahah How are you going to argue against that? Just wondering.

[JesusSavesAtCitibank]

TS,

It was your video that led me to this guy! I joined the workforce in the 60's; was earlier a strong member in the AFL-CIO, and eventually worked my way up the corporate ladder through management at one of America's largest corporations. I've firsthand knowledge from both perspectives, and know how this guy is wrong on so many levels. Laying all blame on blue collar workers as he does (to advance his dogmatic anarchist agenda) is nearly criminal in itself.

Very busy now, but may reconsider.

[TruthSurge]

I thought he was laying blame on on management because laws designed to eliminate competition would help owners too, right?

At any rate, don't just write him off. I think he has good ideas. Govt does use force to make you do things that you normally wouldn't if you had a choice. I think charging people income tax, THEN taxing the remainder as a sales tax, THEN taxing their property just because... they can and then blowing it then grabbing more... that's criminal. :)

[sumadartsan]

"Can't take this irrational and delusional mouthpiece of the wealthy...Do your own research and THINK for yourselves people. " . Just like *you* did, right? :) Perhaps you can show us your rationality and demonstrate for us the errors in the video. Btw, empty, unsupported statements are *not* rational arguments.

[JesusSavesAtCitibank]

sumadartsan,

Statements do not always comprise an argument. Neither do statements alone require "support".  I've not [yet] made any arguments, rational or otherwise. Thank you.

[sumadartsan]

"Statements do not always comprise an argument. Neither do statements alone require 'support'. Nonesense, if you want to be taken seriously in the pursuit of truth, you must support your statements with arguments. Any statement that is not accompanied by supporting arguments has no value except as a meaningless claim or statement of opinion.

[JesusSavesAtCitibank]

"Any statement that is not accompanied by supporting arguments has no value except as a meaningless claim or statement of opinion."

Yes, now you've got it. However, an argument would itself consist of at least two statements. I've been hitherto, only providing opinions, while you've been desperately and erroneously trying to reshape them into arguments. If I give arguments, you'll know it.

[sumadartsan]

"I've been hitherto, only providing opinions, while you've been desperately and erroneously trying to reshape them into arguments." Well, it's good to see that you are aware your statements are merely claims and opinions unlike a great number of people who think they counter a video by merely making a statement of what they believe. However, your comment is presented as a statement of fact in which you call Stefbot irrational, delusional, a mouthpiece.

[JesusSavesAtCitibank]

"your comment is presented as a statement of fact in which you call Stefbot irrational, delusional, a mouthpiece. "

No, that's your opinion. In my opinion, your opinion is wrong.

A 'statement of fact' expresses that which can be proven by objective data, while an opinion expresses a view, judgment, conclusion, or opinion that cannot be objectively proven true/false. It is the responsibility of the reader to correctly distinguish opinions from facts.

[Uaz31]

Money is what is used to control people...the government now controls the auto industry.

[wizkid2000]

Well Spoke Sir!

[RPFS2008]

Frodo, nooooo!!

[canarsiemarsie]

very good..how about a report on youtube for the asswipe .. teachers union....the public schools that are war zones...

[newgtguy]

That hit home!

[mikeybrumbrum]

I think the problems for th eworking class started when thatcher put women to work, as well as men. She sold it brilliantly, as "Right to work", whihc was the most ironic thing.

Anyone with any sense could see this would force 2 people to have to work, for the same money as 1 man used to. Disgusting, really.

But globalization demands that we all "equalize", and thats what i think is happening. And the pope is travelling the world, so he's going everywhere thats been coquered or converted.

[newgtguy]

Interesting point. Gloria Steinem did the same thing (with CIA help) in the United States.

[chaseantarctica]

"Anyone with any sense could see this would force 2 people to have to work, for the same money as 1 man used to. "

This is not a logical conclusion. Although it's true that the cost of living has increased in the past 50 years.

[LeksServices]

Actually, it does make sense, especially in a "free market" economy. You see, you double the workforce, and thus, employors can pay less. In fact, if you double the workforce overnight, the wages could go down more than 50% since there would suddenly be a huge surplus in workers. So yes, this would have a severely negative impact on salaries.

[chaseantarctica]

1. The work force didn't double all of a sudden when women entered workplaces.

2. Employers hire people when they need them, not when the workers need jobs. A business owner doesn't take wages from current workers to pay those of newly entering ones. A business hires new people when production expands. 3. A surplus in workers does not coincide with salary decreases, it just provides more labor capital for businesses to expand with. I would love to see your evidence to the contrary though.

[chaseantarctica]

Also Leks, to demonstrate the illogic of your theory: You think doubling the workforce has cut people's salaries in half. So if we cut the workforce in half will everyone's salary double overnight?

[TruthSurge]

Hey, Leks! How is it going?

[bigleady]

talk about missing the point. The unions destroyed the uk manufacturing industry in the exact same way as the rust belt in the US is now imploding.

[mikeybrumbrum]

It's ridiculous.

The £2000 they are offering for odl cars supplements, against new cars, is simply being sucked up by the car companies (obviously).

The govt, basically gives the car companies, your deposit !

How does that help you ? They would have knocked £2000 off anyway !

So the TAX PAYER is now covering the deposit of any new cars !!! The govt are taking my money and yours, and giving it to anyone who has an old car to trade in !

How ridiculous !

[drewmandan]

Interestingly, I was also thinking about how to explain the difference between a voluntary strike and a government-enforced strike to laymen myself over the past few days. I guess I'll have a video to link to :)

Too bad Stef has a reputation of being a crazy cultist with liberals.

[MonkeyBusiness233]

Let's hope the right people get to see this.

[Cailwyn]

Good shit, Stef. I think that this format is really clever, provided that your target is actually watching.

But, I'd like to see a couple of follow-up videos like this one, because, as we all know, that gun points more ways than one.

[erdal0]

the audio contrast is to wide or is it just me?

[Mahoivlich]

All centralized power is eventually corrupted. These union problems are only problematic in the untrained or low skilled positions as skilled positions are much harder to scab and end up costing more. Everyone should be able to get a job that maintains a certain quality of life but there is no reason why unskilled labor should be paid doctors wages.

[Individualism101]

This video is an interesting experiment. But somehow I doubt that unionists are going to get the message. Like communism, state unionism will have to completely implode in on itself taking it's supporters with it.

[furyofbongos]

What "experiment" are you referring to?

[Individualism101]

If you address a video to an audience other than the one you are likely to receive, and the video is openly critical of the audience to which it is directed, then what is the probability of receiving a wide coverage in that new audience?

[DeeperBlueX16]

powerful vid man.

[motokeiru]

It's about time for the statist system to fall already..