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  • Women have many noble qualities...thinking and creativity are not typically among them. There are smart and creative women...they are happy and don't typically take up ranks with the troll lesbians that are feminists. Feminists don't represent anyone besides the genetic chaff.

  • Men are guilty of just listening to feminist claims and worse ,accepting compromizes. Whether they RULE over women ,whether women will destroy them through typical female hysteria and irrationality.

    Our Western world is now filled with countless foolish women ,unable to love and to give .

    It's high time men ran the show again.

  • Feminism doesn't "free" anyone . Feminism enslaves and destroys.

    It is the most vicious and insane attack on mankind ever known . We have reached a creepy level of insanity and paranoia. We are going insane and it is WOMEN who lead us all to hell.

    I'm one btw.

  • "I claim that rape exists anytime sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire"

    This very quote sums up the castrating feminist agenda : men must SUBMIT to women ,otherwise they are vilified.

    = > depriving men from sex within marriage so that they seek it out and that destructive debauchery spreads around quickly

    = > depriving men from an equal share of reproduction and destroying fatherhood .

  • Satan is behind every feminist speech and insane ideas. His hatred of men knows no bound as far as men are image and reflection of God's glory on earth.

  • Lies offend people terribly, BUT, Truth essential to liberty offends the supremacist abuser far, FAR worse than any lie ever offended a the best of people.

    Isn't it amazing how putting the shoe on the other foot is so "unfair" and is soooo "offensive?" The double standards of elitist femunism are the ultimate sickness of mankind.

  • "Invented by women: computer programming,"

    Oh here we go again ! The great lie about Babbage's mistress (I forgot her name) !

    Computer programming was indeed written by a woman but dictated by a MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • The very belief of a worldwide male conspiracy against women just prove that feminists deep inside believe that men are superior because they can easily rule over women , and on a very big scale !

  • Its over! The feminsm is at the begin of the end. We are fighting in Switzerland now. We want to be elected for elections. (Nationalrat). We organize allready the 2. international Antifeminism day.

  • This is y I'm a Anti Feminist. Feminism=Misandry.

  • VIVA THE MRA !!!!!

  • murtari-

    This is so great. Such a gift. Thank you.

  • There be crazy bitches out there

  • When I was at college Robin Morgan was a visiting scholar and I had the "priviledge" of seeing seeing her in action. She never acknowledges the existence of male students, which was great because I got to hear speak freely, believe these quotes are NOTHING compared to vile sh-t she spouts when safe amongst her followers

  • I will take note of this and log it away for future arguements. If ya find any more quotes, then please make a sequel.

  • @TheLordmep Good idea lets ALL educate those feminist who believe taking a gender studies class can replace the hard sciences and believe that THEY are the slaves in marriage when in fact they benefit while MEN slave away for that big house. heck men STILL get all the work and what do they get for it in the end? the kids taken from them and a life of paying a lazy feminist who by law wouldnt be required to work. so bravo to u

  • @themaniusedtob However, before we can educate the feminists, which is debatably impossible, we must first educate ourselves. I've been spending the last few weeks online gathering up info on misandry and all related subject matter. Currently I've got 34 pages and I've still only skimmed the surface.

  • @bloodngutspatriot

    Marriage is the source of homophobia and sexism. I also don't agree that anything is "sacred".

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  • @longliveJohnWayne

    Marriage as an institution was founded on a man in the dominant role and the woman in the more submissive role. It was also founded on an exclusion of homosexuals. Both of which carry over to today.

    Also I reject your premise that a "man and woman permanently joined together" is necessary the most fulfilling experience.

  • Death to feminism!

  • I agree with the destruction of marriage, I don't see why you feel this is misandry

  • @angeltears87 ...I agree with you... marriage is synonym for prison for men...

  • @sotonindeda

    Well if you think that, join in my attempts to get rid of it altogether.

    It is quite unnecessary.

  • @angeltears87 ...that's right...

  • @sotonindeda

    :)

  • @angeltears87 I agree that this bit is not misandry. In the contrary, women will, in the future, have to work as prostitutes rather than housewifes because their safe haven, the marriage, is gone.

  • @john42t

    Aahahaha. What sexist rubbish. Please provide some evidence to this affect. And why pray tell do women need a safe haven and men do not?

    Historically marriage has been prostitution of women. It was an economic bond between families. (not to mention the dowry). I love how people who come out in defence of "traditional" marriage love to ignore what it traditionally has been.

  • @angeltears87 I agree that marriage was, in part, a form of prostitution. The man provides, the woman serves. And you're mistaken, I don't defend it. I'm more in favour of outright prostitution where they suck my cock for 50 bucks. The only thing that bugs me is that they always pretend to like it. Women need a safe haven because they are weaker (in need of defence) and are generally not as useful as men (earn less). So prostitution is going to have a bright future.

  • @john42t

    The reason women turn to prostitution is for money not for protection so I am unsure why you are saying the lack of alleged save haven will result in more prostitution.

    Women earn less than me because of pay equality it doesn't mean they are less useful, quite the opposite really...

    Sorry but I don't need a man to defend me, I seem to be unraped and unabused just fine without a husband to get his knuckle dusters out.

    you lack logic dear sexist one.

  • @angeltears87 You are protected by the police and the legal system, most of which are men. At some point, this won't be the case any longer. At that point, you will have to see to your own protection and pay for it at market rates - which most likely you can't. And yes, the reason women turn to prostitution is for money. Just like marriage. And you lack spelling dear simple one.

  • @john42t

    lolol you are full of shit man Nah a typo doesn't mean I lack spelling.

    continue your trolling misogynist ways elsewhere *waves*

  • @angeltears87 Keep laughing as long as you still can. I won't be for long

  • I'm sorry did you just say women are more useful than men and then in the same comment call someone else a sexist?

    Not to be sexist, but nearly every modern convenience, every bit of food you eat each day, every luxury you enjoy, hell every brick in your building is there because a man put it there. Sure, womens' contributions have been historically ignored in some cases, but the discrepancy is too big to account for.

  • Really, I find your condescending comments rather funny when the only reason you are 'unraped' and 'unabused' is because there is a system of society protecting you that was put in place and is run chiefly by men. You think if society were one big free-for-all that you'd be able to walk the streets as a man would?

  • @SolidSnakeRules

    I don't think society would ever be a free-for-all. And if it were well there is a new technology referred to as a "gun", brute strength is largely irrelevant these days. Maybe it would be rapists who would need to stay inside rather than women for a change!

    Also I don't think so poorly of men that I assume they will run around raping just because they can. You are horribly anti human and I care not for your vague unrealistic threats.

  • @angeltears87 I've seen a lot of your comments, personally I am against any type of discrimination, I'd like your opinion on the feminist quotes as shown in this video. I would really like to believe there are feminists that aren't filled with hatred and bitterness for men and boys, however, I have yet to see any.

  • @fenderkid6

    I think the anger of feminists is valid, women are definitely oppressed within society. However I think it tends to be misdirected if it is aimed at men. The problem with achieving gender equality is the divisive nature of gender constructs and the way to combat this can only be challenging any gender division rather than fostering them.

    Many feminists do not hate men but those who believe in pathriarchy theory are wrong and misguided.

    Gender discrimination doesn't help anyone.

  • @angeltears87 It's my opinion that there is nothing more destructive and counterproductive than misguided anger. Also, feminists aim for independance, I would say that independance is a transitional state between dependancy and co dependacy, the latter being the goal. If we rely on each other, we are less likely to abuse one another, and to take the "if you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" to it's logical conclusion, we often require the assistance of others, where just ourselves won't do.

  • @fenderkid6

    autonomy is of the utmost importance to a human being. Without autonomy a human can not be happy. Without women having the same access to money that men do there will never be equality.

  • @angeltears87 do you not agree, however, that institutionally, the pendulum has swung back too far? As a boy born in 1992 after large advances had been made, I've realised that when I was growing up there was a distinct bias against boys within the education system. Would you not agree also, that such a bias exists? I must say I feel that feminism has lost a lot of relevance nowadays, and you're the only civil, reasonable feminist I have *ever* had the pleasure of conversing with.

  • @fenderkid6

    No, actually women have less rights now in some areas then they did a few decades ago. Hard won abortion rights for example are always being pushed back.

    Saying there is a dinstinct bias against boys is quite reactionary, it is the same as saying there is a distinct bias towards white people because of positive discrimination on the basis of race.

    This is just absurd, black people and women just aren't in the work force to the extent white people and men are.

  • It is also incorrect to view gender equality as a dichotomy. Men do not get less rights as women get more. It just evens out the entrenched anti-woman sexism.

  • @murtari This is good. Instead of "feminists," you should say "women." You are underestimating the degree of sexist bigotry there, but it is thought-provoking.

  • from the quotes by feminist..

    "I claim that rape exists anytime sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire" so its rape when in midway sex the woman change her mind and call the guy a rapist?

    

  • @jakcloudhighwind Too bad that BS is enshrined in the law.

  • Wow, people can handle it when feminists say nasty dirty lies, but when you reverse the genders (even when that makes it finally true) people come unglued...

    Double standards... are nothing less than abuse and supremacy, feminist style.

  • EQUALity. Thats the same rights and rules for everyone, noone gets special treatment.

  • It's Terrible that you had only 11000 views since 2007

    need to promote this video.

    like make a response pointing to the fact that most of those Virulent quotations were made by Zionist Jewish women. and the mission was not equality for women but actually the destruction on FAMILY to undermine and destroy US society.

    and the Stupid Gullible non-jewish women ate the hook sinker and all!!!

  • Feminism is out of control. It's integrated itself in every media format, most disturbingly so called traditional America. Country music is a prime example. If it's not a man singing about getting wasted without a care in the world, it's a woman singing about domestic abuse - man on woman/children - or a man cheating on them. Their answer is to celebrate humiliating these terrible men, or in some cases MURDERING THEM. I say, shut the fuck up. You sociopath bitches know who you are.

  • these are quotes by radical feminists and they were taken out of context. you can't make the generalization that all feminists are like this. that's stereotyping and we're all too old for that.

  • @KelseyHeat Feminists have been stereotyping men for ages. How come men aren't allowed to do the same?

    And anyway, we both know that feminism is not about equality so isn't it better for it to be attacked like this then none at all?

  • @KelseyHeat Nay, these are key figures in the media and politics, not the fringe loons you portray them to be.

  • @KelseyHeat I realize that these quotes don't represent all feminists, but this cult of misandry is hardly rare in the women's movement. I can add a few quotes from my own experience to corroborate what has been written here. Resentment toward men is a part of feminism, whether or not these statements express the sentiments of every feminist.

  • @prschuster Saying, "Don't condemn all feminists, some are good!" is just like saying, "Not all Nazis are bad - Don't condemn the good Nazis." If they were good then they would abhor being called feminists in the first place. The very name feminist infers supremacy - I'm for equality, I'm NOT a man-ist.

  • @addvoc8 If you say feminism infers supremacy, then you might as well say that the labor movement, which gave us the 40 hour work week, was for employee supremacy, and the civil rights movement blacks gaining the right to vote was for black supremacy. If only life were that simple where you could say some people are totally evil and others are good. It's more rational to say that feminists gained some important rights for women, but have no interest in men's issues. Some are man haters though.

  • @prschuster civil rights movement i all inclusive. black white male and female are all treated equally. Feminism are for women rights only

  • @dantej32 The "Civil Rights Movement" I was refering to is a specific movement in the 1960s that was concerned only with African American rights. That's the way the word is usually understood when used as a proper noun. The same goes for the "Equal Rights Movement" which refers specifically to women. That's a whole lot different from "civil rights" or "equal rights" used as generic terms.

  • @prschuster Civil Rights act of 1964 forbade discrimination based on sex as well as race and color. so how was The "Civil Rights Movement" only for African American rights? WOMEN want right that they alone will be allowed to have.

  • @dantej32 OK, you're refering to the "Civil Rights Act". Point well taken. But the "Civil Rights Movement", as most people understand it, refered to racial issues and that's all I was saying. So what? Martin Luther King and Malcolm X were only addressing issues of racial discrimination against blacks, and feminists are only concerned with issues relating directly to women, not men.

  • @prschuster and what I am aing i that the "Civil Rights Movement", as most people understand it, referred to racial issues has people being treated equally. Feminists want rights only for women and not equality.

  • @dantej32 I agree...

  • @prschuster exactly, feminism is a movent made by women. for women. Some may be naive and belive, feminism is for equality. But it isnt. It is called ' womens right movement ' for a reason.

  • @Kenshiroit I'm not even saying that there is anything wrong with women having formed a movement for their own benefit. Groups of people in society have to band together for their own rights, but that doesn't mean they'll be fair to others once they get the rights they fought for. No one group or movement has a monopoly on equality. That's the stark reality of political organizations.

  • @prschuster exactly. Feminism is for women...period. Men need their movement also, to create balance. Otherwise we have situation like a country with one party only and one president for life. What is the name of that political structure? taht is the situation on equality right now.

  • @prschuster 80% of the Nazis didn't want to massacre the Jews, but they all did. Therefore, we indiscriminately burned them with flamethrowers and saved some rounds later. Is there a problem with that? Every bigot needs their ass run out. Feminazis are no exception.

  • I don't see how marriage is slavery, women are given what they want, she wants to go shopping, she'll go shopping, she wants to go out with her girlfriends, she'll go out, marriage is not slavery in the least

  • changing the point? the point is intrinsic to your question. silly bear. when did i say things were equal at all? things are unequal for both sexes. it's just that there is more inequality for females, this does not negate the first point. it is the feminism when things are made equal, for both sexes.

  • Not ONE feminist in this thread has taken ownership of the insipid quotes made by those that came before them, yet every one of them will look a man in the eye and tell him that thousands of years of their so-called oppression is every man's fault. Feminism will NOT be valid until women by the thousands storm the doors at military recruiting stations and DEMAND they be required to register for Selective Service, DEMAND quotas in child custody, DEMAND that due process be returned to family court.

  • @anarqist do feminists have to declare themselves feminists in order to satisfy your demands? anyone who strives for equality of the sexes is consistent with the definition of a feminist. whether they are men's rights activists, feminists or other. we are in a patriarchy, it is logical for feminists to battle against the current inequalities against them than focus on the fewer inequalities that face men. although that's not to say feminists don't fight for both at times e.g against gender roles

  • @itsmeJTke Wha? Out of context. I refuse to answer. Refute my statements if you can, but I suspect it's true that feminism could not survive an actual debate. Like global worming, feminism is based on lies and half truths that demonize the male gender and give special treatment to females not only in law, business and government, but give them superior rights in reproduction and family court. The lies are slowly being outed and feminism is dying a slow painful death that is a joy to watch.

  • @anarqist what is the point? you are the one twisting feminism's meaning when you call it female supremacy. you probably call valerie solanas feminist. sadly for you the meaning of feminism is fixed. it means equality, often (but not always) the equality of outcomes. when masculists complain, they complain because their position of privilege has been eroded and claim that in itself is oppression. it is laughable.

  • @itsmeJTke Again, you fail, proving the point, feminism cannot survive a debate. Quit changing the subject, and answer specifics. How is it equal when men are required to register for selective service and women are not? How is it equality when women get custody 85% of the time in contested cases? How is it equal when single women can legally abandon babies, but single men can't. Why do feminists demonize men with lies and half-truths? Why won't you own up to the despicable quotes in this video

  • @anarqist: The answer to all your question:

    (1) women have reproductive power (benevolent sexism); (2) women are more "nurturing" so "fitter" to have custody (ditto!); (3) if you mean abortion, I propose that the woman who aborts the man's bab(ies) which she had consented to carry should pay monetary recompensation, (4) NOT ALL feminists demonize men, stop generalizing.

    Last words, I'm a man.

  • @anarqist: If you want some "truths," it is antifeminists Craig Palmer and Randy Thornhill who had argued in their book "A Natural History of Rape" that all men are potential rapists. This is highly detrimental to men. Moreover, MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin said no where that all [heterosexual] intercourses are rape or all men are rapists. The quotes are bogus.

  • @DonKhoi "potential Rapists" means nothing. just means "likely" because of the physical feasibility NOT propensity. it's like saying All Birds are Potential Flyers.

    True. but NOT all birds Fly but they do have the wings, feathers, etc.

    you analogy is Stupid. Don Khoi

    Feminism is a Zionist Movement to destroy FAMILY & Society.

    not for Equality thru Feminism.

    Same bullshit as Communism and Also Started by Zionist Jews.

    WAKE UP Idiot!

  • @itsmeJTke: Valerie Solanas is much like Malcolm X. Both were from groups which had been oppressed for centuries and poured forth their anger at the dominance group.

    I do not condone their racist/misandrist attacks against whites/males. They should not have held all whites/men to be collectiovely guilty just because of the actions of some arseholes among them.

  • its funny bechose in here finland most wiches where men.

  • I am too exhausted to make this a forum of debate, just want to say murtari, that some of those quotes you took out of context, as well as disregarding the fact that femminists movements vary in factions and ideologies. Because, one femminist makes a statement for whatever reason, you cannot blanket a movement that spans 2,ooo years, and a multitude of different viewpoints. That is like me saying all men are rapists, as you pointed out. But, lets try and respect each other even if we diagree.

  • @zammmerjammer

    Those " others " are MEN not women you hysteric feminist bitch!

    I wasn't talking about "genitals" you retarded cow but about

    MEN who invented & created EVERYTHING around us on this planet!

    Women invented & created NOTHING!

    You femminist whores are nothing but bigoted hysteric bitches

    that should be sent to Afghanistan to be whores slaves in local Muslim harems!

    Back to the kitchin bitch!

  • @TeslaGeniusYour premise is lost due to a inablity to have a rationale, constructed argument. You make reductive sweeping generalizations about femminists, and women's contribution to human history.Offer zero unbiased historical evidence that men are the only contributing factor to civilization, and call us bigoted.You use personal insults,"bitch," "whore."Continue to take the road of demagoguery, it's mediocrity exemplified, it's the extent of what you offer...

    .

  • So why would any man support feminism? Obviously Feminism's ideology is more important to them than fairness, truth, and equality.

  • @Markohoppis

    Man who support feminism do that be cause they are WIMPS!

    They have no character and dignity so they don't mind sumission!

    They look for their short term intrests among women.

    Those men are also enemies of all others who want true EQUALITY

    and not endless privilegies for women

    Homosexuals are also against role & symbol of fatherhood in family

  • Moreover, when someone is accused of rape, they are always guilty, even if "proven" by law that they are not, i.e.; There just wasn't enough evidence, the victim was scared, so the accused is still a rapist, they just couldn't prove it.

    Yet we see feminists who say women never lie or rarely lie about rape, so granting anonymity to the accused would an implicit admission that women do lie about rape, and not rarely.

  • I don't need to look up war rape, and your numbers sound very high (millions), so provide me with a source. Our discussion dealt with the West, not rape within the context of war. I feel that you can't proclaim rape hysteria if you use numbers from the West, so you purposely use "war rape."

    This isn't a simple disagreement, you're brainwashed by an ideology, an ideology that has been shown to be unscrupulous.

  • I liked your anecdote on how three of your friends said they were raped, but not one said he was falsely accused which means rape happens much more often. Never mind the problems with this such as someone falsely accused having no incentive to say these things, you being a feminist (women never lie), and the selective type of company you have. For me it's been the other way around.

    But your bias will not allow to see these things because you strongly believe that women rarely falsely accuse.

  • @Markohoppis But according to you anyone accused is immediately hung from the highest tree, right? I'm sure I would have noticed that.

    When did I say women never lie? I said, the lies of a very few do not somehow negate the huge number of rapes that occur. You seem to have trouble with recall. And rationality. My "selective company" means what? My friends are more rapeable? I'm sure you know rape victims too, but with your attitude I'm sure they'd never tell you about it.

  • Your bias has already been exposed. You believe in everything quack feminists do. The severely high under reporting, the inability to sympathize with those who are falsely accused of rape by granting them anonymity, your deceptive use of rape statistics (millions of rapes) to support rape hysteria, you construe misandry as simple opinions. In America for example, the rape rate has been its lowest in about 20 years according to the FBI.

  • @Markohoppis It would be so nice if people didn't use terms they don't understand. I suggest you look the word "bias" up in a dictionary before you use it again... & again & again. In your world, anyone who disagrees with you is suffering from "bias." It just makes you sound ill-informed. Which you are.

    Did you look up war rape? In the Congo, or the Vietnam War, or WWII? If you were a UN inspector investigating women & children who'd been raped to death you might be a bit "hysterical" as well.

  • @zammmerjammer Pre 1970's, rape accusers from what I read were treated like garbage which deterred rape victims from coming forward. Police departments used lie detectors on rape accusers and didn't handle the accuser properly.

    Now the pendulum has swung the other way, and those accused of rape are treated as automatically guilty because it is insensitive and cruel to not believe a rape accuser. Feminism has done its deal, but hasn't been completely honest or responsible.

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  • @Markohoppis And you can provide NOTHING to substantiate your position but it is I who must be biased. Right.

    My sympathy for someone falsely accused still doesn't mean they should automatically be granted anonymity. Nor can you give a reason why it should.

    If you didn't have feminists to cast as the villains in your paranoid global conspiracy how would you live your life?

  • Rape is different. That is why accusers are granted anonymity when in other crimes they are not.

    The UK has had problems with false accusations, and in fairness (privilege of accuser), anonymity for the accused makes sense. A false rape accusation damages a person's life on many levels because people uncritically believe it, so employment, family, finances, freedom, friends, reputation are all damaged. The accusation is terribly egregious.. only thing worse is an accusation of child molestation

  • Feminism is an ideology filled with misandry. As a man, if you like pain, injustice, and suffering, become a feminist and endorse the ignorant ideology.

  • @Markohoppis As a man, if you like pain, injustice and suffering by all means, continue supporting a heterosexist, patriarchal hierarchy that denies you full personhood and reduces you to a pathetic masculine stereotype. It is THAT ideology that defines men as unfeeling brutes whose only emotion is anger and who should just "suck it up" if they don't want to be seen as "faggy." Feminism criticizes narrow definitions of gender and frees people to be full human beings.

  • Of course, it was the media not acting on any type of ideology, it had absolutely nothing to do with the leftist ideology of feminism that produces many false studies on rape to create hysteria, says that women never lie, create laws to remove prior false accusations from evidence, and calls men rapists.

  • @Markohoppis I sense this is sarcasm...

    You demonstrate your ignorance with every successive comment. There are plenty of feminists who could be characterized as right wing. Like I said, feminism is not a monolith. But acknowledging that women are actual human beings with diverse opinions and lifestyles wouldn't jive with your fantasy-world in which women always lie & rape isn't real.

    Can you prove that "the media" is operating according to some "leftist ideology"? No? Hm...

  • @zammmerjammer I've never met a feminist that didn't have a bias. The ideology has become a hotbed for propaganda, misandry, and corruption. As you have demonstrated, those who become members will be inundated with the biases of the sisterhood, and these biases will carry on into everything they do including lobbying for or creating legislation, and shaping public opinion.

    The quotes in this video express the misandric undertones in modern day feminism.

  • @Markohoppis For the last time: just because you don't like a policy IS NOT EVIDENCE IT IS BIASED. Just because the other team wins is not evidence they cheated. You have provided no evidence of this "bias" you keep bleating about other than to complain about things that don't please you.

    As for your first statement, you are currently speaking with a feminist who has no bias but you refuse to listen BECAUSE I identify as a feminist -- THAT is called bias. Look it up.

  • Oh yeah, guess what happened to the accuser in the Duke case, she wasn't charged with anything which is quite common.

    How to make one's life a living hell based on an accusation.

    I read a story recently about a man named Kevin Driscoll who was accused of rape in Oregon. Even though the evidence was extremely poor, he was still tried.

  • @Markohoppis ...and was he convicted? I'm still waiting to hear about how false accusations of rape are different or worse than a false accusation of any other kind. I'm also still waiting to hear about how these cases, in which the accused(s) were EXONERATED, are evidence of some bias in the justice system. And I'm still waiting to hear how a few false accusations nullify all the millions of rapes that DO occur.

    Waiting...

  • @zammmerjammer He was tried, but there was a hung juror, yet there will be a retrial from what I read.

    Millions of rapes that do occur? Where? In Femland where the unicorns live?

    It's not really a few false accusations, and I never trivialized the rapes that do occur.

    I guess you can't see these biases or refuse to see them because you believe and preach these biases as most feminists do.

  • @Markohoppis This is hilarious. In one statement you say rapes only occur in an imaginary world inhabited by unicorns, and in the next you say "I never trivialized the rapes that do occur."

    PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF BIAS OR STOP USING THE WORD.

    Look up "war rape" -- that's millions of assaults on women and children, often resulting in death, in EVERY armed conflict, the vast majority of which will NEVER EVER BE PROSECUTED.

  • @zammmerjammer You said "millions of rapes." In what context? In america in one year? why use such a high number?

    Oh, it's "war rape." millions you say? Sounds like whole nations were raped.

    I guess if we counted the incidence over a large enough period or within a certain context, we can use large numbers.

  • haha.. feminist jokes

    what do you call a man who was vindicated from a rape charge because his accuser said she made the whole thing up? A rapist! Women don't lie about rape, if she recanted, it was because she was ashamed, humiliated, in fear of her rapist, or didn't want to be "raped" by the justice system a second time.

    what do you call a man that was charged with rape, but wasn't convicted in a court of law? A rapist! There just wasn't evidence to convict him.

  • You deserve to be beaten for agreeing with this stuff or looking at it as "opinions." You're lucky to be only receiving an insult for being an absolute ignorant fuck. Now run along, tell your leaders your movement will be over soon.

  • I think it's also interesting that if a woman claims she was raped, we in our society will uncritically and immediately believe it which shows a bias.

    But of course, women never lie about rape, and all men are rapists. I knew many goth and emo girls in high school who claimed to be molested because being "fucked up" and traumatized was trendy. It's the same on PC indoctrination liberal college campuses , being raped allows one to be part of the in crowd.

  • I've been around in the game for a while, and have seen many apologists in the feminist movement, such as "Don't generalize us, that is only a few bad apples in our movement, it isn't feminism!"

    This is an artifice, a lie, a ruse, it is supposed to lower your guard, and allow these repugnant fascists to operate under the radar while ousting a few of their most controversial members. In time, their ant-male bias will come out just as it has here with zammerjammer.

  • @Markohoppis I don't have an "anti-male" bias so I'd really like to see evidence that you've "exposed" it.

    I don't feel the need to "apologize" for women expressing themselves. Others are free to agree or disagree. When we have vigorous -- and respectful -- discourse we can explore new ideas and try to find truth.

    Your posting a note about me but not to me is the act of a coward who can't justify his or her own position.

  • @zammmerjammer You're anti-male bias is evident in your uncritical support and acceptance of feminist inspired laws like rape shield laws, and not seeing the need for the accused to remain anonymous. You also are geared to believe the ideological beliefs of feminism such as the severe underreporting of rape to support rape hysteria and the fear and hatred of men.

    You are bias, just as all feminists are. It was only a matter of time before it came out.

  • @Markohoppis Sorry, my support of such a broad-ranging and ill-defined category as "feminist inspired laws" is not evidence of bias. Just because YOU don't like a particular policy, doesn't mean it is biased.

    And since you misinterpret all of feminist thought to be "anti-male" I suggest you do some more reading on the subject, specifically those critiques of a patriarchal hierarchy that dehumanizes all genders.

  • You don't see why the accused should be granted anonymity because you're a feminist, and your anti-male and pro-female privilege bias shapes and distorts your reality. A false accusation of rape is a terrible thing much worse than most other crimes, the crime is unique, and the accused should be afforded the same privileges as the entitled accuser.

    This is why feminism and any supporter of it including the democratic party in America should never be put into any position of power.

  • @Markohoppis Um no. I don't see why the accused should be granted anonymity because IT IS NOT WARRANTED. In no other circumstance is the identity of the accused hidden, unless they are a minor. The identity of the accuser isn't hidden.

    I'm not anti-male. I'm anti-rapist. You are the one who seems to be conflating the two.

  • Rape shield laws are gynocentric and ill concerned with the accused which are virtually always male. There have even been instances of jurisdictions giving huge sums of money to rape accusers.

    We saw what happened with the Duke Lacrosse case, that is the rape hysteria that feminists have designed. they have created a bias where the accused is guilty just by the accusation, and no rights shall be afforded to the accused.

  • @Markohoppis Sorry, one false accusation doesn't exonerate all rapists. I feel you would be more comfortable going back in time when it wasn't even considered a crime for a man to rape his wife. Most rapes go unreported and of those that are reported very few result in a conviction. Get your facts straight.

  • @zammmerjammer The Uk has a 8-10 percent False reporting rate for rape, and 42 percent of those rapes that go to trial result i no guilty verdict. You're part of the 2% camp of false rape allegation, which is the bias feminist camp.

    According to the NCVS, about 41% of rapes are reported to police. It is part of the feminist agenda to tell the public that only 5 to 16% of rapes are reported to support the rape hysteria to push for law reform and loss of rights for the accused. Go die.

  • @Markohoppis "Go die"? Are you in the ninth grade? Don't post responses online if you have such insane hostility to people who disagree.

    YOU sound hysterical about rape, not I. 41% means (like I said) MOST rapes go unreported. And other estimates in other countries put the %age of unreported rapes MUCH higher. Male-on-male rape is even more under-reported.

    NCVS has methodological flaws that render their stats on domestic violence and rape unreliable.

  • @zammmerjammer There is no evidence to support that it is severely underreported, but of course the NCVS is "flawed" when it doesn't agree with feminism's rape hysteria propaganda and high rape rates like 1 in 4 women will be raped or sexually assaulted during their college career. When the numbers don't match up with reality, say the crime is severely underreported. Genius.

    Well, "most "entails a large sum, and can be misleading.

  • @Markohoppis This is anecdotal but off the top of my head I can think of three friends of mine who were raped before they turned 20. Do you have three friends who were falsely accused of rape?

    The methodological flaws in the NCVS are as follows: the survey is not done on an individual basis but encompasses the whole household. How likely is domestic violence to be reported in that situation? Also, most rape victims feel ashamed and are not likely to report a rape in such a public way.

  • @zammmerjammer Your friends say they have been raped, yet a lot of people say a lot of things. Sometimes to elicit sympathy which is one of the reasons why women lie about rape. Others want to conform to support rape hysteria, and some interpret consensual acts as rape.

    I have heard everything you've said before from feminists. Rape victims are given a 1000 excuses for everything to support feminist rape hysteria, despite many changes made over the decades in law in whcih how rape is treated.

  • @Markohoppis See, THIS is perfect evidence of bias. (pay attention) You have no facts regarding these cases, the people involved, the particulars. Yet you start from a position of "reasons women lie about rape," placing the onus on the victim to prove that the attack occurred. THAT is bias.

    By the way, when did I say all 3 of my friends were women? (more bias)

  • @zammmerjammer Your friends say they have been raped, yet a lot of people say a lot of things. Sometimes to elicit sympathy which is one of the reasons why women lie about rape. Others want to conform to support rape hysteria, and some interpret consensual acts as rape.

    I have heard everything you've said before from feminists. Rape victims are given a 1000 excuses for everything to support feminist rape hysteria.

  • @Markohoppis You cannot "interpret consensual acts" as rape. No consent = rape. End of story.

    Most college kids (men and women) don't even know that coercing someone into sex IS RAPE. Our culture says women are sexual gatekeepers and only bad girls say "yes" (there is no space for women who might actually initiate sex), while men are supposed to want it all the time no matter what or with whom. That is a recipe for sexual dysfuntion and date rape.

  • it was very clever to replace the genders. but you could use all the phrases said by "great men" in the past. that includes Napoleon: women are nothing but making children machines. or santo tomas de aquino: Como individuo, la mujer es un ser endeble y defectuoso. (as a human, women are poor and faulty) or averroes: women are nothing but flawed men. and so on. remember, chauvinists said it first.

  • UN Secretary General Ban ki-Moon, in his opening address to the UN’s Commission on the Status of Women in New York, said: “Through the practice of prenatal sex selection, countless [women] are denied the right even to exist.”

    European Funding of Gender Selective Abortions Must End

    by Nirj Deva MEP

    Posted: 04/01/2008

  • Some authors have tried to make distinctions between feminists. Christina Hoff Sommers categorized feminists into two groups, one being the gender feminist (the one in power) and the other the equality feminist. The gender feminist is pure evil, and the equality feminist is the feminist disgusted with the evils of the gender feminist.

    As for me, equality is not always right, and all feminists I've met have held some anti-male bias. It's only a matter of time when the bias surfaces.

  • These are not mere independent women expressing their unique viewpoint, it's figureheads of the feminist movement expressing the vile stupidity and biases that run rampant in their ideology.

  • @Markohoppis Bollocks. Feminism is not monolithic, nor does it have "figureheads." It has influential thinkers and authors and artists but there is as much disagreement as within any dynamic movement. There are feminists whose focus is on motherhood and domesticity. But you don't have quotes from them nor do they get as much attention from the mainstream because they are harder to villify & use to paint the entire movement as negative stereotypes.

  • @zammmerjammer These feminists are some of the most influential thinkers in the movement that have shaped feminism. These biases seen in these quotations are seen in the the false rape statistics and domestic violence laws (VAWA) that support rape hysteria and the demonization of men where men are oppressors and women are victims.

    These aren't individuals expressing their unique views. Take some responsibility, you fucking "everybody is different, stop generalizing us manhaters" apologist.

  • @Markohoppis I'm not apologizing. They are allowed to express their views and they did so very strongly. These quotes are all uncredited, not sure why, but unless I am mistaken, these are all second wave feminists? You don't have any quotes from the 1st wave (which was very much concerned with family, human rights) or 3rd wave (which was about gender and identity politics, among other things) which addresses the things you find so objectionable. Look into it.

  • @zammmerjammer The first wave is irrelevant, what matters is now.

  • @Markohoppis Right, history is irrelevant. Ok...

    Well, if "what matters is now" you should be examining and critiquing 3rd wave feminism, not 2nd wave.

  • @zammmerjammer No, history is not irrelevant as we can see the distortions and abuses that spawned from feminism over the years, and the few apologists who whine "Don't generalize us!"

    This is not 2nd wave, it is feminism in its current form that shapes policy and law.

  • @zammmerjammer You call these "views." They are views on the same level of "Niggers are stupid and worthless."

  • @Markohoppis Except that that perspective would be reinforcing a system of oppression rather than trying to dismantle one.

  • I don't see what you find so objectionable here. These are individual women expressing an opinion. Is your problem that you disagree or that they dare speak out in the first place?

  • I'm so sick and tired of feminist crap

  • @TeslaGenius Move to Afghanistan.

  • @zammmerjammer

    it would be much better to move you to Afghanistan

    so that all that men don't get crippled & killed in the name of

    big corporations & international feminism!

    Go fight for "liberation" of your "sisters" in Afghanistan bitch!

    To much men blood was wasted for that CRAP!

  • @TeslaGenius Like I said, your irrational paranoid hostility would fit you right in in some tiny fundamentalist village in Afghanistan.

    If you seriously think the war in Afghanistan was fought for women's rights you are living in a fantasy world.

  • @zammmerjammer

    that's at least what they say ALL the TIME "women's rights in Afghanistan"

    but I have mentioned "big corporations" also you retarded simpleton

    learn to read before you comment!

    As for the rest you can kiss my ass you feminist cow !

    Feminist bitches like you should be sent to "women's rights" war not men !

  • @zammmerjammer

    who are you anyway to send anybody anywhere, huh?

    You feminist cunt the Western civilization was built by INVENTIONS of MEN not women!

  • @zammmerjammer

    every civilization to the present day was made by INVENTIONS of MEN!

    Nobody had anything from feminists like you except permanent bitching!

  • @TeslaGenius What exactly have you invented, genius? We will also drop all weaponry, torture devices, environmental destruction, and EVERY WAR EVER into the laps of male ingenuity so careful how far you go in that direction.

    I fail to see any of this "civilization" you tout so proudly in your rude, hostile, ignorant comments.

    Your world would look very different without women there to do most of the work on this planet... for a fraction of the pay.

  • @zammmerjammer ALL in Western civilization is INVENTED BY MEN ! Do you hear me you retarded feminist cunt?! ALL INVENTED BY MEN ! And in all other civilizations as well ! ALL INVENTED BY MEN ! Women are not equal to the men! As for women's "work" most of you can't even cook any more! So why don't you go to Afghanistan feminist bitch to teach those Taliban lesson how to respect your "sisters" huh? You big mouth feminist cunt!
  • @TeslaGenius Reply to me when you learn to integrate this "civilization" into your comments.

    You demonstrate why we need feminism because of the vile ignorant hostility you display in response to any woman who dare express an opinion counter to yours.

    FEMINISM HAS CHANGED THE WORLD FOR THE BETTER AND CONTINUES TO DO SO.

    Get a clue. Get some manners. Unti you do I will consider replying to you is a waste of time.

  • @zammmerjammer

    I have NOTHING to "replay" to you

    be cause this civilization is created above all with

    MEN BRAINS & STRENGTH

    Feminists are bitching cunts like you and have brought NOTHING

    positive to this world !

    I consider waist of time to talk to feminazi's like you,

    this is just signal for you that glows are off and

    that you can only get your teeth punched down

    to your tiny brain as answer on your provocations!

  • @TeslaGenius I'm loving the irony of you claiming the genius of men while totally unable to formulate a proper sentence. I'm also loving your attaching your own useless existence to those of actual great thinkers and inventors because you both have penises. Again, WHAT HAVE YOU EVER CONTRIBUTED, GENIUS? Nothing? You're just an impotent nutjob? Right.

    All horrific crimes in history have also been perpetrated by men so... you wanna take credit for that too?

  • @zammmerjammer

    MEN BRAINS & STRENGTH have created ALL CIVILIZATIONS in the past & present

    on this planet you STUPID feminist COW!

    ALL was CREATED by MEN you stupid bitch !

  • @TeslaGenius YOU have created nothing. YOU feel the need to attach your own pointless existence to others who actually contribute because your genitals are similar. YOU=FAIL.

    Invented by men: machine gun, icepick lobotomy, taser, electric chair, agent orange.

    Invented by women: computer programming, cordless telephones, treatment for leukemia, fire escape, chocolate chip cookie.

  • @Markohoppis Niggah please, i didn't understand a god damn word you said. Dumb that shit down. Mmkay? Kaythxbaii.

  • Attacking marriage by giving women incentives to divorce their husbands, and spreading femprop that are abusers are male.

    Feminism encouraging women to be lesbians, absolutely pathetic. That must be why feminists condemn and hate heterosexual males creating laws that target heterosexual males (Duke's new sexual misconduct policy).

    These people are fucking evil. turning men into rapists and abusers with ideological nonsense to enslave men. Hasn't anyone murdered these people yet?

  • @Markohoppis

    Feminism doesn't even know sexual preference cannot be changed... u_u

    If a woman is straight, she'll remain straight forever; if she's a lesbian, she'll be a lesbian forever, and if she's bi, she'll be bi forever.

    AND BEING A LESBIAN IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO HATE MEN! Many lesbians are good friends with men, unlike what feminazis want them to be.

  • @Markohoppis Yeah, it's pretty "evil"... like suggesting people you disagree with should be murdered. Like that?

  • @zammmerjammer Or suggesting that all men are rapists like femicunts do.

  • @Markohoppis If you would like to debate with another adult you can refrain from vulgarity, please.

    Have you actually examined what is meant by that comment or are you taking it literally in some simple-minded way?

    Some feminists consider any penetrative sex to be rape... and others absolutely disagree. However the rates of date rape on college campuses suggest that an awful lot of "sex" is actually rape. How about the millions violated due to war rape in EVERY armed conflict?

  • @Markohoppis Some feminists posit that all men benefit from the reality of rape in the same way that all white people benefit from racial discrimination and violence even if they don't personally participate. Again, many feminists vehemently disagree. Some argue that until women have complete sexual and reproductive freedom all sex in inherently coercive. Some don't.

    What I'm suggesting is that there is more to this seemingly inflammatory quote than its most simplistic literal interpretation.

  • @zammmerjammer rape shield laws do not grant anonymity to the accused in America, but they do in Britain, yet the feminists vehemently opposed this because any man accused of rape is automatically guilty.

    I don't care what one complicit feminist in 5,000 says, i only care about the majority of them that shape policy, law, and infiltrate universities which is virtually all of them.

  • @Markohoppis There may had been one Nazi amongst a thousand that didn't believe in the extermination of the Jews, yet that didn't stop WWII and shouldn't have.

  • @Markohoppis You lose all credibility when you compare a diverse and dynamic political movement concerned with human rights and liberation with Nazism. The losing party in a debate always has to trot out the corpse of Hitler as a futile attempt to prove a false point.

    There is ZERO connection between the two.

  • @zammmerjammer I don't lose credibility, your movement has lost credibility due to its sexist and extreme beliefs on the male gender which is similar to the Nazis' beliefs and biases toward Jews.

    "Rape Shield Law" now has to be reformed because of its many failures by not preserving the rights of the accused as it was created by the same people who thought all men are rapists. Enabling accusers which feminists have done will stop, first in the UK and then in America.

    Good day, fascist.

  • @Markohoppis Sorry, feminism and Nazism are NOT ANALOGOUS. That is a hysterical and false comparison. Even if you disagree with feminist principles, comparing it to Nazism shows you have no grasp of reality and your argument is weak.

    For instance, you didn't even know what a rape shield law was until I explained it to you...

    Nor do you have any understanding of the very quotes you find so objectionable...

  • @zammmerjammer Yes, they are, you pompous pseudo-intellectual arse.

    Disenfranchising men by instituting female privilege and anti-male laws is oppressive.

    I know exactly what a rape shield law is, you presumptuous fool. And the quotations are bigotry fo which you are, represent, and support.

  • @Markohoppis The fact you can do nothing but insult me demonstrates you have nothing legitimate to say in defense of your "ideas".

    You clearly DID NOT know what a rape shield law was since you thought it was about protecting the anonymity of the accuser... which is silly.

    Nowhere on earth are men systematically deprived of an education, their genital organs, or their lives by women. A few policies you don't like do not form a system of oppression.

    Argument fail.

  • @zammmerjammer I insult you because you insult me, just not as explicitly as I insult you. I know rape shield laws are about protecting the accuser, but certain safeguards should be made to limit the power of the accuser in rape shield laws. If the accused remain anonymous, it will deter the accuser from making slanderous accusations out of malice, and an accuser's past false accusations should never be ommitted in trials. No judicial interpretation, but explicitly stated and enforced in law.